Clemente in Rovers link
9:52am Tuesday 9th October 2012 in Sport
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
Former Spain boss Javier Clemente
FORMER Spain boss Javier Clemente is the latest to have expressed an interest in the Ewood Park hot seat – with Rovers set to draw up a shortlist of potential managers on Thursday.
Global advisor Shebby Singh has called for patience from Rovers supporters as the search for Steve Kean’s successor steps up a gear this week, with Eric Black staying in temporary charge as the process continues.
A host of big names are understood to have already registered an interest, including the likes of former Real Madrid boss Bernd Schuster and ex-Manchester United ace Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, although Singh declined to comment on individual names yesterday.
The Lancashire Telegraph understands Clemente has joined the growing list of potential replacements, along with former Sunderland boss Peter Reid, although reports claiming there has been contact with Roy Keane are wide of the mark.
Former Rovers striker Alan Shearer also hinted he would be interested in the role over the weekend but, with no contact made, the Telegraph understands his Ewood return is highly unlikely.
Singh said: “I had a chat with Eric on Monday and we know there is pressure on all of us but it is important we continue working regularly, with Eric and his coaches looking after day-to-day affairs.
“We are in a hurry to make the right decision but we will not rush it. We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate.
“I am going to have a meeting with my colleagues on Thursday where we will look at all the names in the hat and draw up a shortlist from there. It could be a shortlist of one, it could be a shortlist of three or four.
“In the meantime I would call for some understanding from the fans. Eric has to be given support, the team have to continue their preparations.
“If we had a game on Saturday, the whole scenario changes, but we now have two weeks before the next game. It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days, and there is a lot of pressure on him.
“He will be taking day-to-day charge while we are firming up what we need to do and we know we are in safe hands.”
Clemente, 62, has spent most of his club career at Athletic Bilbao and Espanyol, winning two league titles and the Copa Del Rey while with the former in the early to mid 1980s.
He was Spain’s manager between 1992 to 1998, while he also managed Serbia in 2006-07 and Cameroon two years ago.
Clemente, who has also enjoyed management spells at a host of other Spanish clubs, is out of work having finished a short-term spell at Sporting Gijon in May.
Rovers’ owners are believed to still be open-minded about their next managerial appointment but are understood to be looking for someone who shares their ‘passing football’ philosophy.
Comments(108)
petestan
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10:05am Tue 9 Oct 12
kazz wrote:No thanks Kazz, we need someone with experience not someone who has only ever managed for 8 games.
Shearer shearer shearer shearer
French Rover
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10:07am Tue 9 Oct 12
petestan wrote:every manager only managed for 8 games at some point in their career....!
kazz wrote:No thanks Kazz, we need someone with experience not someone who has only ever managed for 8 games.
Shearer shearer shearer shearer
makaveli96
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10:08am Tue 9 Oct 12
kazz
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10:10am Tue 9 Oct 12
edmy
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10:11am Tue 9 Oct 12
Nuttall Street
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10:14am Tue 9 Oct 12
ALAN SHEARER: the choice of fans who want a manager who has never been a manger before (see also Tim Sherwood)
ROY KEANE: the manager most likely to use physical violence in early meetings against Shabby, Venkys, Hendry, etc. Consequently, a very attractive candidate, but unlikely to be favoured. (see also Graeme Souness).
ERIC BLACK: the leading candidate and owners favourite. Studied under the footballing genius Steve Kean and works cheap. No relocation expenses necessary. Does not like to use substitutes during games further reducing overheads.
HARRY REDKNAPP ('arry): likely to be a leading candidate if Ewood Park is moved to Canford Cliffs, Poole. Heavily followed by HM Revenue and Customs.
"KING" KENNY DALGLISH: the strong preference of supporters still in the 1980's. Unlikely to get to the starting gate in time for the "off".
MICK McCARTHY: no bloody good and does not try to disguise it, his candidacy is based upon honesty and plain speaking as his foremost virtues. Therefore, not favoured by the Global Adviser (see Shabby Singh)
SHABBY "GLOBAL ADVISER" SINGH: stupid, but not stupid enough to let himself be put into a position where his job retention depends upon delivering results. Would only be attracted by a more grandiose job title. (see also looky-likey Charlie Chaplin).
COLIN HENDRY: the pick of pensioners fancying a little flutter with their life savings.
IAN HOLLOWAY: why would anyone leave a position at a third rate club with very limited resources, in a woebegone northern seaside resort, to come to Ewood Park under Venkys? The fantasists' choice.
BFS: the rightful manager, but now making too much money now from suing Venkys, suing Kean etc to spend time on job applications.
JOSE MOURINHO: unlikely to wish to be considered because the job is too hard (see also Sir North Stand)
BRENDAN RODGERS: desperate, but not that desperate (yet).
SVEN GORAN ERICSSON: the ladies favourite. Particularly fancied by Mama Desai (see also Jimmy Savile)
OLE GUNNER SOLSKIAR: a very good candidate; very unlikely to get to the interview stage (see BFS)
JOURDAIN ALI: the worst candidate of all; highly likely to be the chosen winner (see Steve Kean)
BERND SCHUSTER: where can you aspire to go after managing Real Madrid? Why, of course, Ewood Park! The bet of those who believe Pep Guardiola is going to be the next manager of Burnley.
MAHATMA GHANDI: likely to find football management (and chicken strangling) morally repugnant.
rhodie110961
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10:30am Tue 9 Oct 12
Nuttall Street
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10:32am Tue 9 Oct 12
If we are looking for someone who shares Venkys philosophy of football then perhaps we should be looking for a manager from the world of ice skating or stamp collecting.
Nuttall Street
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10:36am Tue 9 Oct 12
earwego
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10:36am Tue 9 Oct 12
kazz
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10:37am Tue 9 Oct 12
srvp28
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10:41am Tue 9 Oct 12
French Rover wrote:It's a tricky one. Mark Hughes had never managed at club level before he took over but he'd done a fantastic job with Wales. Shearer didn't have enough time to prove himself at Newcastle but I still don't think he's the right man for Rovers, at least not at the moment.
petestan wrote:every manager only managed for 8 games at some point in their career....!
kazz wrote:No thanks Kazz, we need someone with experience not someone who has only ever managed for 8 games.
Shearer shearer shearer shearer
We've just been put through the mill on the back of someone doing their managerial apprenticeship at our club. I don't think it would be fair on the fans to put them through it all again so soon after Kean's disastrous tenure.
Bernd Schuster would be an interesting appointment, purely for his interviews. He's like a cross between Sir Alex Ferguson and Ian Holloway...
Nuttier than squirrel s**t!
kazz
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10:43am Tue 9 Oct 12
earwego wrote:U beat me to it
Coyle sacked at Bolton, be at Ewood soon, cheap and a Scot,perfect
**** Lol
earwego
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10:45am Tue 9 Oct 12
kazz wrote:Sorry mate lol but at least we are on the same wave length.
earwego wrote:U beat me to it
Coyle sacked at Bolton, be at Ewood soon, cheap and a Scot,perfect
**** Lol
ronnie clayton
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10:48am Tue 9 Oct 12
We note Coyle`s coaching staff his assistant and his defensive coach have all been relieved of their duties ,that is the honourable way to change management , instead we have Black/Hendry scaping around looking to take advantage of the guy who hired them , BLACK/HENDRY please give Rovers the chance to rebuild, you two hanging around like a bad smell is counter productive.
Rovers 1495
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10:49am Tue 9 Oct 12
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Wouldn't hang around too long before pinning someone to the job ...
French Rover
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10:49am Tue 9 Oct 12
Benitez (out of work now and he would come - if he cannot get the Liverpool job off Rodgers this week) - Rafa has an average percentage win ratio of 52% - the highest of all the experienced possibilities.
Svennis - Sweden's love machine would love to back managing in England - his average percentage win ratio is almost 52% the same as Rafa. A strange guy but a very effective manager.
Owen Coyle - Freshly sacked today and deservedly so by the Trotters (Cheap option as he wouldn't need to move house)
Mark (we will never be in this position again) Hughes - who could be sacked later this week or even later today.
The Coyle sacking and possibly Hughes too complicate matters further for the Rovers as there are now more available managers positions to fill!
Get a flipping move on Shebby...
IrishRover78
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10:49am Tue 9 Oct 12
earwego wrote:Also on the books for J.A. BEWARE!!!!!!
kazz wrote:Sorry mate lol but at least we are on the same wave length.earwego wrote: Coyle sacked at Bolton, be at Ewood soon, cheap and a Scot,perfectU beat me to it **** Lol
midas
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11:10am Tue 9 Oct 12
Nuttall Street wrote:LOL you can add Owen Coyle to that list, though Peter Reid is a strong dark horse having managed in Thailand and is familiar to ESPN.
Runners and riders line up for the Ewood Park handicap as follows: ALAN SHEARER: the choice of fans who want a manager who has never been a manger before (see also Tim Sherwood) ROY KEANE: the manager most likely to use physical violence in early meetings against Shabby, Venkys, Hendry, etc. Consequently, a very attractive candidate, but unlikely to be favoured. (see also Graeme Souness). ERIC BLACK: the leading candidate and owners favourite. Studied under the footballing genius Steve Kean and works cheap. No relocation expenses necessary. Does not like to use substitutes during games further reducing overheads. HARRY REDKNAPP ('arry): likely to be a leading candidate if Ewood Park is moved to Canford Cliffs, Poole. Heavily followed by HM Revenue and Customs. "KING" KENNY DALGLISH: the strong preference of supporters still in the 1980's. Unlikely to get to the starting gate in time for the "off". MICK McCARTHY: no bloody good and does not try to disguise it, his candidacy is based upon honesty and plain speaking as his foremost virtues. Therefore, not favoured by the Global Adviser (see Shabby Singh) SHABBY "GLOBAL ADVISER" SINGH: stupid, but not stupid enough to let himself be put into a position where his job retention depends upon delivering results. Would only be attracted by a more grandiose job title. (see also looky-likey Charlie Chaplin). COLIN HENDRY: the pick of pensioners fancying a little flutter with their life savings. IAN HOLLOWAY: why would anyone leave a position at a third rate club with very limited resources, in a woebegone northern seaside resort, to come to Ewood Park under Venkys? The fantasists' choice. BFS: the rightful manager, but now making too much money now from suing Venkys, suing Kean etc to spend time on job applications. JOSE MOURINHO: unlikely to wish to be considered because the job is too hard (see also Sir North Stand) BRENDAN RODGERS: desperate, but not that desperate (yet). SVEN GORAN ERICSSON: the ladies favourite. Particularly fancied by Mama Desai (see also Jimmy Savile) OLE GUNNER SOLSKIAR: a very good candidate; very unlikely to get to the interview stage (see BFS) JOURDAIN ALI: the worst candidate of all; highly likely to be the chosen winner (see Steve Kean) BERND SCHUSTER: where can you aspire to go after managing Real Madrid? Why, of course, Ewood Park! The bet of those who believe Pep Guardiola is going to be the next manager of Burnley. MAHATMA GHANDI: likely to find football management (and chicken strangling) morally repugnant.
ewood1952
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11:17am Tue 9 Oct 12
Get some one in NOW!!!!!!!!!!! This WEEK. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ronnie clayton
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11:23am Tue 9 Oct 12
Reid last job was Plymouth ,then before that assistant to Tony Pullis at Stoke ,then before that the Thai national coach might be difficult for Reid these days as about 65% of the players playing today are foreigners , might be a COMMUNICATION problem !!!!!!!
Gaz M
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11:34am Tue 9 Oct 12
Gaz M
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11:34am Tue 9 Oct 12
tugaycomeback
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11:36am Tue 9 Oct 12
They'd better get this right given the amount of potential candidates...
1riversider
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11:46am Tue 9 Oct 12
The situation at Bolton has also now further complicated the picture - anyone care to bet they have a new manager before us?
Really hope I'm wrong, but I can see this all ending in tears yet again - I have no faith whatsoever in the Three Stooges and Venky's!
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
earwego
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11:47am Tue 9 Oct 12
tugaycomeback wrote:All potential candidates now have an option, Rovers or Bolton, They can chose between a well run club with a knowledgeable chairman, or a mad house run by a bunch of mad hatters with only knowledge of chickens.
Have to say I've not laughed as much at the comments on LT for a while, shouts out to midas and Nuttall Street.
They'd better get this right given the amount of potential candidates...
bburnrover
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11:48am Tue 9 Oct 12
happycyclist
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12:01pm Tue 9 Oct 12
petestan
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12:06pm Tue 9 Oct 12
French Rover wrote:True french rover but as I say we need someone with experience such as Schuster or OGS not someone who wants to be friends with the players, we've already got one ex tv pundit at rovers we don't need another as manager.
petestan wrote:every manager only managed for 8 games at some point in their career....!
kazz wrote:No thanks Kazz, we need someone with experience not someone who has only ever managed for 8 games.
Shearer shearer shearer shearer
Iiii1111
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12:09pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Howe back to Bournemouth
Coyle back to dingleland
AndyW
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12:35pm Tue 9 Oct 12
French Rover wrote:Exactly right.
petestan wrote:every manager only managed for 8 games at some point in their career....!
kazz wrote:No thanks Kazz, we need someone with experience not someone who has only ever managed for 8 games.
Shearer shearer shearer shearer
Sir Alex was once a manager with only 8 games experience.
Every manager was.
Shearer might not be the answer to our problems, but there's an equal chance that he would be.
He would certainly bang a few heads together, get the fans united with the club again and command huge respect.
Imagine what Rhodes could do under Shearer's tutelage...
MatthewCA
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12:38pm Tue 9 Oct 12
MxMave
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12:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12
"bide our time"
"make sure we get it right"
"keep supporting Black"
"Black is preparing the players"
"It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days"
"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate."
Sounds remarkably similar to the "we will decide steve keans future" statements.
In other words, we are keeping Black at the helm and were going to lead you on that we are looking for a new manager when all we really want to do is wait for Black to string 2 or 3 wins together so that we can offer him a professional contract and claim he's the right man for the job.
I promise you this Rovers faithful, they have brought thier chosen men in already, for whatever reason Kean wasn't sacked will be the same reason Black won't be sacked. There is an arrangement in place whereby someone else is picking the team and Black/Kean are jus figureheads who are so spineless they will let it happen and take home a fat pay cheque.
givet82
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12:58pm Tue 9 Oct 12
MxMave wrote:And you know this how? Assumptions are the mother of all **** ups
Am I the only one who see's the striking similarities between this statement and previous situations at ewood?
"bide our time"
"make sure we get it right"
"keep supporting Black"
"Black is preparing the players"
"It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days"
"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate."
Sounds remarkably similar to the "we will decide steve keans future" statements.
In other words, we are keeping Black at the helm and were going to lead you on that we are looking for a new manager when all we really want to do is wait for Black to string 2 or 3 wins together so that we can offer him a professional contract and claim he's the right man for the job.
I promise you this Rovers faithful, they have brought thier chosen men in already, for whatever reason Kean wasn't sacked will be the same reason Black won't be sacked. There is an arrangement in place whereby someone else is picking the team and Black/Kean are jus figureheads who are so spineless they will let it happen and take home a fat pay cheque.
ronnie clayton
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1:00pm Tue 9 Oct 12
MxMave wrote:Your comments are spot on, I think its crossed everyone`s mind that the powers that be (whoever is really behind all the cunning ) have decided on Black/Hendry and maybe the Kean thing was just show ,they knew with Kean in charge it was never going to work , even though he possibly still is in charge , maybe we are going through a bit of showboating till Black manages to get a win ,and they declare we have a good man here ,why bother with a outsider ! perhaps the 2 draws and a defeat brought their cunning sly plan to a screaming halt and it will be restarted once there`s a win or two to boast about, if they do that it will be goodbye for ever.
Am I the only one who see's the striking similarities between this statement and previous situations at ewood?
"bide our time"
"make sure we get it right"
"keep supporting Black"
"Black is preparing the players"
"It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days"
"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate."
Sounds remarkably similar to the "we will decide steve keans future" statements.
In other words, we are keeping Black at the helm and were going to lead you on that we are looking for a new manager when all we really want to do is wait for Black to string 2 or 3 wins together so that we can offer him a professional contract and claim he's the right man for the job.
I promise you this Rovers faithful, they have brought thier chosen men in already, for whatever reason Kean wasn't sacked will be the same reason Black won't be sacked. There is an arrangement in place whereby someone else is picking the team and Black/Kean are jus figureheads who are so spineless they will let it happen and take home a fat pay cheque.
Roverthere
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1:10pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Come on you Blues!!
givet82
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1:12pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Roverthere wrote:well said OGS for me
Let them take their time, the main thing is to get he right person. This season could be a write off anyway in order to rectify the mess left by Kean, advisors and his cronies. Play off place an outside possibility!
Come on you Blues!!
A Darener
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1:49pm Tue 9 Oct 12
earwego wrote:Or they could wait a little while longer and go to Burnley when their manager moves on to Bournemouth. Ah! but why would they? Burnley not exactly a good move.
tugaycomeback wrote:All potential candidates now have an option, Rovers or Bolton, They can chose between a well run club with a knowledgeable chairman, or a mad house run by a bunch of mad hatters with only knowledge of chickens.
Have to say I've not laughed as much at the comments on LT for a while, shouts out to midas and Nuttall Street.
They'd better get this right given the amount of potential candidates...
leitchy
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1:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12
zenoufthebirdcatcher
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2:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12
kenbro
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2:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12
MxMave
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2:56pm Tue 9 Oct 12
ronnie clayton wrote:If they do that it will be goodbye forever (until venky's go bust) for me, 1k at every home game from then on in and a club in freefall.
MxMave wrote:Your comments are spot on, I think its crossed everyone`s mind that the powers that be (whoever is really behind all the cunning ) have decided on Black/Hendry and maybe the Kean thing was just show ,they knew with Kean in charge it was never going to work , even though he possibly still is in charge , maybe we are going through a bit of showboating till Black manages to get a win ,and they declare we have a good man here ,why bother with a outsider ! perhaps the 2 draws and a defeat brought their cunning sly plan to a screaming halt and it will be restarted once there`s a win or two to boast about, if they do that it will be goodbye for ever.
Am I the only one who see's the striking similarities between this statement and previous situations at ewood?
"bide our time"
"make sure we get it right"
"keep supporting Black"
"Black is preparing the players"
"It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days"
"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate."
Sounds remarkably similar to the "we will decide steve keans future" statements.
In other words, we are keeping Black at the helm and were going to lead you on that we are looking for a new manager when all we really want to do is wait for Black to string 2 or 3 wins together so that we can offer him a professional contract and claim he's the right man for the job.
I promise you this Rovers faithful, they have brought thier chosen men in already, for whatever reason Kean wasn't sacked will be the same reason Black won't be sacked. There is an arrangement in place whereby someone else is picking the team and Black/Kean are jus figureheads who are so spineless they will let it happen and take home a fat pay cheque.
MxMave
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3:04pm Tue 9 Oct 12
givet82 wrote:It's called reading between the lines.
MxMave wrote:And you know this how? Assumptions are the mother of all **** ups
Am I the only one who see's the striking similarities between this statement and previous situations at ewood?
"bide our time"
"make sure we get it right"
"keep supporting Black"
"Black is preparing the players"
"It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days"
"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate."
Sounds remarkably similar to the "we will decide steve keans future" statements.
In other words, we are keeping Black at the helm and were going to lead you on that we are looking for a new manager when all we really want to do is wait for Black to string 2 or 3 wins together so that we can offer him a professional contract and claim he's the right man for the job.
I promise you this Rovers faithful, they have brought thier chosen men in already, for whatever reason Kean wasn't sacked will be the same reason Black won't be sacked. There is an arrangement in place whereby someone else is picking the team and Black/Kean are jus figureheads who are so spineless they will let it happen and take home a fat pay cheque.
Do you really believe all this tripe? What club takes months over EVERY single decision? You can see the lies in Shebbys eyes when he speaks.
Now Bolton need a manager and guess who will get one first, i fully expect Bolton like any normal club to have an appointment by early next week at the latest.
We are being strung along by the same set of lies, are you actually sat there looking at your monitor saying "yes, yes Shebby we need to take our time over this one and make sure Black is in charge for the next game JUST incase we don't get a manager in, he is doing a great job with the lads and we are looking like a good unit under him".
Wake up man, Venkys are playing for time yet again and we all just eat out of thier hands as they mock us from afar. If Schuster and Clemente have put thier CV's into the ring then what else is to discuss? We have our choice of experienced managers, why wait til "thursday".... possibly because this is close to the weekend so no approaches will be made until next week? Then the "approach" may be dragged out over a few weeks whilst Venky's pray that Black gets one win so they can hail him as a man with great prospects.
givet82
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3:23pm Tue 9 Oct 12
MxMave wrote:It's all fine having an opinion, but don't pretend to know more than everyone else. Comments what you have said are truly unbelievable, you promise all Rover's fans that Black is the new manager! Unless your name is Agnew or Shaw you know nothing. As for reading between the lines you are bad at that too, this process is what all clubs go through and we didn't go through it when we sacked big Sam. I would happily bet you a tenner that our next manager would not be Black, but i don't know and neither do you so please stop promising what you don't know about. As Well i'm sure you tried to "read between the lines" with Rhodes and said no way Venky's will spend that sort of money, they will just go for the cheap option, how did that turn out! Protest against Venkys on your own, no excuses will stop me having a pint and supporting my team! They put their money in now it's time to turn up and stop the moaning even if we get Shearer which a lot don't want . Support your team it's in your blood.
givet82 wrote:It's called reading between the lines.
MxMave wrote:And you know this how? Assumptions are the mother of all **** ups
Am I the only one who see's the striking similarities between this statement and previous situations at ewood?
"bide our time"
"make sure we get it right"
"keep supporting Black"
"Black is preparing the players"
"It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days"
"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate."
Sounds remarkably similar to the "we will decide steve keans future" statements.
In other words, we are keeping Black at the helm and were going to lead you on that we are looking for a new manager when all we really want to do is wait for Black to string 2 or 3 wins together so that we can offer him a professional contract and claim he's the right man for the job.
I promise you this Rovers faithful, they have brought thier chosen men in already, for whatever reason Kean wasn't sacked will be the same reason Black won't be sacked. There is an arrangement in place whereby someone else is picking the team and Black/Kean are jus figureheads who are so spineless they will let it happen and take home a fat pay cheque.
Do you really believe all this tripe? What club takes months over EVERY single decision? You can see the lies in Shebbys eyes when he speaks.
Now Bolton need a manager and guess who will get one first, i fully expect Bolton like any normal club to have an appointment by early next week at the latest.
We are being strung along by the same set of lies, are you actually sat there looking at your monitor saying "yes, yes Shebby we need to take our time over this one and make sure Black is in charge for the next game JUST incase we don't get a manager in, he is doing a great job with the lads and we are looking like a good unit under him".
Wake up man, Venkys are playing for time yet again and we all just eat out of thier hands as they mock us from afar. If Schuster and Clemente have put thier CV's into the ring then what else is to discuss? We have our choice of experienced managers, why wait til "thursday".... possibly because this is close to the weekend so no approaches will be made until next week? Then the "approach" may be dragged out over a few weeks whilst Venky's pray that Black gets one win so they can hail him as a man with great prospects.
FannyTickler
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3:26pm Tue 9 Oct 12
French Rover
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3:58pm Tue 9 Oct 12
petestan wrote:The Bookies all seem to think that our next manager will be someone with a lot of experience in the game - but with no proper managerial experience.
French Rover wrote:True french rover but as I say we need someone with experience such as Schuster or OGS not someone who wants to be friends with the players, we've already got one ex tv pundit at rovers we don't need another as manager.
petestan wrote:every manager only managed for 8 games at some point in their career....!
kazz wrote:No thanks Kazz, we need someone with experience not someone who has only ever managed for 8 games.
Shearer shearer shearer shearer
Shearer and Sherwood and Ole Gunnar are still all very close together as the bookies favourites between 3-1 and 11-4 in the betting along with Mad Mick MacC (but he thankfully looks tied-on for the Bolton job now).
The rest seem to be also-rans according to the Bookies, as even Black is now at 10-1.
But as good as the Bookies usually are - maybe this time they have not reckoned with the V factor - as Venky's will probably have some surprise in store for us all yet.
dangerous dave
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4:01pm Tue 9 Oct 12
OUT WITH BLACK HENDRY SINGH AGNEW VENKYS
merlinrabbit
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4:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12
BJS
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4:35pm Tue 9 Oct 12
MxMave wrote:I said it before, the current statements from Ewood bear a striking resemblance to those following the ruthless sacking of Allardyce and the appointment of the odious Kean. ie Give the fans a bit of hope by putting out that there plenty of attractive options available until things quieten down a bit then give it to "their man," Black! Hope i'm wrong.
givet82 wrote:It's called reading between the lines.
MxMave wrote:And you know this how? Assumptions are the mother of all **** ups
Am I the only one who see's the striking similarities between this statement and previous situations at ewood?
"bide our time"
"make sure we get it right"
"keep supporting Black"
"Black is preparing the players"
"It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days"
"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate."
Sounds remarkably similar to the "we will decide steve keans future" statements.
In other words, we are keeping Black at the helm and were going to lead you on that we are looking for a new manager when all we really want to do is wait for Black to string 2 or 3 wins together so that we can offer him a professional contract and claim he's the right man for the job.
I promise you this Rovers faithful, they have brought thier chosen men in already, for whatever reason Kean wasn't sacked will be the same reason Black won't be sacked. There is an arrangement in place whereby someone else is picking the team and Black/Kean are jus figureheads who are so spineless they will let it happen and take home a fat pay cheque.
Do you really believe all this tripe? What club takes months over EVERY single decision? You can see the lies in Shebbys eyes when he speaks.
Now Bolton need a manager and guess who will get one first, i fully expect Bolton like any normal club to have an appointment by early next week at the latest.
We are being strung along by the same set of lies, are you actually sat there looking at your monitor saying "yes, yes Shebby we need to take our time over this one and make sure Black is in charge for the next game JUST incase we don't get a manager in, he is doing a great job with the lads and we are looking like a good unit under him".
Wake up man, Venkys are playing for time yet again and we all just eat out of thier hands as they mock us from afar. If Schuster and Clemente have put thier CV's into the ring then what else is to discuss? We have our choice of experienced managers, why wait til "thursday".... possibly because this is close to the weekend so no approaches will be made until next week? Then the "approach" may be dragged out over a few weeks whilst Venky's pray that Black gets one win so they can hail him as a man with great prospects.
ronnie clayton
says...
4:43pm Tue 9 Oct 12
lLook Shearer made a pigs ear out of the time he was manager at Newcastle , and by the way he wanted to stay after he got them relegated ,it was Newcastle United that said "no chance" and shoo`d him out the door ,Newcastle united know better than us great player ,but he`s no manager, people say " Newcastle were struggling when he came in" which is true but he never had the managerial ability to turn it around.
Sherwood has NO experience never managed a team ever ! so NO.
Look at the other ex player from that era Hendry that has made a complete and total mess of every managers job he has had, and look at the mess our "defensive" coach is making of this job he has at Rovers that his drinking pal Kean gave him.
LOOK GET AN EXPERIENCED MANAGER IN OR ITS GONNA BE MORE OF THE SAME.
Rovers 1495
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4:48pm Tue 9 Oct 12
/sport/0/football/19
864718
Since when was he injured ?
leonm987
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5:02pm Tue 9 Oct 12
ronnie clayton
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5:21pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
noddy57
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6:15pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Harwoodstblue
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6:17pm Tue 9 Oct 12
ronnie clayton wrote:I hope they don't appoint someone on the cheap again....It's par for the course with Venky's though and that's why we're in this mess. Have they learned anything from the disasters of the last two years ?
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" .
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
Harwoodstblue
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6:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12
ronnie clayton wrote:Ole Gunner Solskjaer is emerging as a major contender to become the next Bolton Wanderers manager.
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" .
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/sport/wan
derers/wanderersnews
/9974698.Odds_dramat
ically_shorten_for_O
le_Gunnar_Solksjaer
Come on Venkys, pull your fingers out
burnleyglentoran
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6:46pm Tue 9 Oct 12
He had to act fast so he can gazump the fatherless.
Mind you whoever is it is, would you want a chairman who has a good command of English and lives locally or global advising clown with a hitler tash !?
Not to mention the fans, who, aladyce wasnt good enough for them, the current England manager wasnt good enough, and if they're not 100 points clear by Christmas, will be met with disgusting vile and venomous personal abuse week in week out.
Looks like they'll be stuck with Eric.
BRKFC - the BLACK hole of Calcutta! In more ways than one!
ronnie clayton
says...
6:53pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Harwoodstblue wrote:OGS has actually now got quite a lot of experience.
ronnie clayton wrote:Ole Gunner Solskjaer is emerging as a major contender to become the next Bolton Wanderers manager.
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" .
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/sport/wan
derers/wanderersnews
/9974698.Odds_dramat
ically_shorten_for_O
le_Gunnar_Solksjaer
Come on Venkys, pull your fingers out
Harwoodstblue
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6:59pm Tue 9 Oct 12
ronnie clayton wrote:Yes, I agree with your earlier post Ronnie. Was just pointing out if Venkys don't move sharpish we could miss out on our first choice, whoever that might be.
Harwoodstblue wrote:OGS has actually now got quite a lot of experience.
ronnie clayton wrote:Ole Gunner Solskjaer is emerging as a major contender to become the next Bolton Wanderers manager.
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" .
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/sport/wan
derers/wanderersnews
/9974698.Odds_dramat
ically_shorten_for_O
le_Gunnar_Solksjaer
Come on Venkys, pull your fingers out
Harwoodstblue
says...
6:59pm Tue 9 Oct 12
ronnie clayton wrote:Yes, I agree with your earlier post Ronnie. Was just pointing out if Venkys don't move sharpish we could miss out on our first choice, whoever that might be.
Harwoodstblue wrote:OGS has actually now got quite a lot of experience.
ronnie clayton wrote:Ole Gunner Solskjaer is emerging as a major contender to become the next Bolton Wanderers manager.
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" .
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/sport/wan
derers/wanderersnews
/9974698.Odds_dramat
ically_shorten_for_O
le_Gunnar_Solksjaer
Come on Venkys, pull your fingers out
77'sss
says...
7:04pm Tue 9 Oct 12
French Rover
says...
7:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Harwoodstblue wrote:Mad Mick MacC has been (allegedly) approached and accepted (in principle) the job at the Reebok.
ronnie clayton wrote:Ole Gunner Solskjaer is emerging as a major contender to become the next Bolton Wanderers manager.
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" .
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/sport/wan
derers/wanderersnews
/9974698.Odds_dramat
ically_shorten_for_O
le_Gunnar_Solksjaer
Come on Venkys, pull your fingers out
So Ole Gunnar is still free....but may be behind Sherwood or/and Shearer for the post.
It will NOT be Black.
Harwoodstblue
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7:34pm Tue 9 Oct 12
French Rover wrote:Whilst Venkys dither again Wanderers step in perhaps ?...Watching Venkeys in action is like watching railings rust.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Mad Mick MacC has been (allegedly) approached and accepted (in principle) the job at the Reebok.
ronnie clayton wrote:Ole Gunner Solskjaer is emerging as a major contender to become the next Bolton Wanderers manager.
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" .
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/sport/wan
derers/wanderersnews
/9974698.Odds_dramat
ically_shorten_for_O
le_Gunnar_Solksjaer
Come on Venkys, pull your fingers out
So Ole Gunnar is still free....but may be behind Sherwood or/and Shearer for the post.
It will NOT be Black.
kazz
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7:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12
smellthecoffee
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7:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12
rhodie110961 wrote:I would think Shearer is a little bit more experienced than Kean....look at their playing record for starters. The most important attributes are respect from the supporters, the squad and the management....then you've got a chance. Lose any one of those and the rest soon follow...then results go bad. I think Kean had about 33% of one of those and perhaps 5% for the other two. If the club dilly dallies for much longer they could find Bolton taking the best candidate.
Shearer isn`t coming here to play,he`s retired . Sorry to state the obvious but that is the only conclusion I can think of that some want him back, Look what happened with the last inexperienced manager we had ,have you already forgotten?
whittleblue
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7:53pm Tue 9 Oct 12
smellthecoffee
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7:56pm Tue 9 Oct 12
kazz wrote:The fans don't want Sherwood. There is little respect for the man after the way he acted toward the end of his Ewood career. This is just Shebby wanting to employ another of his ESPN buddies (see also Hendry). Hendry knows he'd be out of a job with any other manager.
TIM SHERWOOD ODDS DROP TO 2/1 FOR BLACKBURN JOB. MICK MCCARTHY ODDS ON FOR BOLTON ACCORDING TO SKY BET
smellthecoffee
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7:58pm Tue 9 Oct 12
ronnie clayton wrote:AGREED!! AND OUT WITH HENDRY AND BLACK ASAP!!!!
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" . Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers. Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
smellthecoffee
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8:04pm Tue 9 Oct 12
ronnie clayton wrote:...it would have to be Mick (promotion with two different clubs & 40% win rate) McCarthy then....but Bolton will appoint him before these idiots have had time to figure out how to switch a computer on and type up a shortlist!
Shearer or Sherwood !! PLEASE NO ,no,no,no what is the problem bringing in a experienced manager ? lLook Shearer made a pigs ear out of the time he was manager at Newcastle , and by the way he wanted to stay after he got them relegated ,it was Newcastle United that said "no chance" and shoo`d him out the door ,Newcastle united know better than us great player ,but he`s no manager, people say " Newcastle were struggling when he came in" which is true but he never had the managerial ability to turn it around. Sherwood has NO experience never managed a team ever ! so NO. Look at the other ex player from that era Hendry that has made a complete and total mess of every managers job he has had, and look at the mess our "defensive" coach is making of this job he has at Rovers that his drinking pal Kean gave him. LOOK GET AN EXPERIENCED MANAGER IN OR ITS GONNA BE MORE OF THE SAME.
noddymcleod
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8:29pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Jourdan Ali given a coaching post would play well among the chicken nugget munchers in Pune.
Money's the key, not ability.
If you knew what you were doing, like having some knowledge about how to get out of the Championship, viz. McCarthy, would you sign for Bolton owned by a local millionaire who knows where the ground is and goes there, or Venkys. If he doesn't get the Wanderers job, Peter Reid is possibly one of the better (sorry cheaper) options.
Matt Newcastle
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8:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12
With Notts Forest and now Leeds likely to get new owners Rovers WILL in my opinion get this one right. Don't know why after everything they have done to date.
As for top names the NW has ( City's rise has enhanced it) a big attraction with managers, and players. Jet set lifestyle and more importantly a part of the world / country the WAGS are prepared for their other halves to move to for a footballing job.
Do you think Shearer would consider a move back to Blackburn if his misses wasn't happy to move back down here. Why does Roy Keane still banker after staying when he has a 1.5 million a year deal in Turkey I think.
Liverpool City United jet set and WAGs culture.
Most live on the Southport coast or posh South Manchester Alderley Edge
set.
Harvey Nichs / Armani etc in Manchester.
You don't get that any where else but London.
So for these reasons ( and probably not the right reasons) there will always be big names interested in good NW clubs
I think they will opt for what we would all perceive to be a big name
I don't know why however I think they will get it right. Prepared to eat my words if they don't.
There will
Dr Zinc
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8:41pm Tue 9 Oct 12
I fear the worst with this lots track record
Black would cost nothing and he is on mr Anderson's books
I hope im wrong, but I fear them dragging this out til Black gets a win and they then give the job to him
merlinrabbit
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8:53pm Tue 9 Oct 12
kazz
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9:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12
merlinrabbit wrote:Id support shearer all the way. I know everyone is talking about experience and the only manager with experience would consider coming to us is mccarthy but wouldnt want him and anyway he will probably end up at bolton. Im defo in favour of shearer
If Venkys did go for Shearer, how many of you would get behind him and how many would go back to or continue boycotting? Could you imagine a situation where Shearer was getting flak as a manager from Rovers fans ? (I know he did as a returning Newcastle player). I would support any manager as long as he is clearly not from Venkys or JA school of thieves. Cant believe some were booing Black on saturday. Hurling abuse seems to be innate in some.
French Rover
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9:38pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Matt Newcastle wrote:Actually Matt despite your strange fashionista rant about the glories of Manchester and the WAGS? - there is both a Harvey Nicks and an Armani in Birmingham too - plus Harvey Nicks are also in Leeds and Bristol and Edinburgh et al...so not really exclusive to the NW.
Folks don't panic
With Notts Forest and now Leeds likely to get new owners Rovers WILL in my opinion get this one right. Don't know why after everything they have done to date.
As for top names the NW has ( City's rise has enhanced it) a big attraction with managers, and players. Jet set lifestyle and more importantly a part of the world / country the WAGS are prepared for their other halves to move to for a footballing job.
Do you think Shearer would consider a move back to Blackburn if his misses wasn't happy to move back down here. Why does Roy Keane still banker after staying when he has a 1.5 million a year deal in Turkey I think.
Liverpool City United jet set and WAGs culture.
Most live on the Southport coast or posh South Manchester Alderley Edge
set.
Harvey Nichs / Armani etc in Manchester.
You don't get that any where else but London.
So for these reasons ( and probably not the right reasons) there will always be big names interested in good NW clubs
I think they will opt for what we would all perceive to be a big name
I don't know why however I think they will get it right. Prepared to eat my words if they don't.
There will
maybe they don't mind living around Manchester or Merseyside cos they cant see where they are - as it rains so hard all the time?
But give a monkey enough 'peanuts' and they will live and play and manage anywhere...just hope the Venkys are willing to part with a good chunk of their store of peanuts..
vicn1956
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9:41pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Mr.Desai.
Matt Newcastle
says...
10:00pm Tue 9 Oct 12
French Rover wrote:FR Hi
Matt Newcastle wrote: Folks don't panic With Notts Forest and now Leeds likely to get new owners Rovers WILL in my opinion get this one right. Don't know why after everything they have done to date. As for top names the NW has ( City's rise has enhanced it) a big attraction with managers, and players. Jet set lifestyle and more importantly a part of the world / country the WAGS are prepared for their other halves to move to for a footballing job. Do you think Shearer would consider a move back to Blackburn if his misses wasn't happy to move back down here. Why does Roy Keane still banker after staying when he has a 1.5 million a year deal in Turkey I think. Liverpool City United jet set and WAGs culture. Most live on the Southport coast or posh South Manchester Alderley Edge set. Harvey Nichs / Armani etc in Manchester. You don't get that any where else but London. So for these reasons ( and probably not the right reasons) there will always be big names interested in good NW clubs I think they will opt for what we would all perceive to be a big name I don't know why however I think they will get it right. Prepared to eat my words if they don't. There willActually Matt despite your strange fashionista rant about the glories of Manchester and the WAGS? - there is both a Harvey Nicks and an Armani in Birmingham too - plus Harvey Nicks are also in Leeds and Bristol and Edinburgh et al...so not really exclusive to the NW. maybe they don't mind living around Manchester or Merseyside cos they cant see where they are - as it rains so hard all the time? But give a monkey enough 'peanuts' and they will live and play and manage anywhere...just hope the Venkys are willing to part with a good chunk of their store of peanuts..
Valid points
I think there is a bit of a WAGs type culture around the United City now Liverpool NW but your right.
Not really a rant however just a bit of a theory as to why SS is waxing lyrical as to the quality of the applicants who I suspect are 70 / 80 % similar as to who have put in for the Bolton job.
Just trying to sus out the applicants who truly wish to join our fantastic
club.
Rovers1975
says...
10:18pm Tue 9 Oct 12
leonm987 wrote:Oh deary me. Really? As time ticks by, it becomes more apparent that who ever is the absolute cheap and probably worst option will get the job. Does anyone trust these lot?
Pep Guardiola is out of work? Maybe?
stefjam
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10:20pm Tue 9 Oct 12
oggy 56
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10:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Gaz M
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11:27pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Dr Zinc wrote:I fear if this is the case Dr Zinc the fans will return to their boycott of games and the gates will be a lot lower than previous this season. Make no mistake this is Venkys last chance to get it right if they fail us again then they will be in the fans crosshairs and they will get both barrels and deservedly so.
Blackburn next play at Derby on 20 October and Singh indicated that Black remains in contention for the job full-time. "If we had a game on Saturday, the whole scenario changes, but we now have two weeks before the next game. It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days, and there is a lot of pressure on him. He will be taking day-to-day charge while we are firming up what we need to do and we know we are in safe hands."
I fear the worst with this lots track record
Black would cost nothing and he is on mr Anderson's books
I hope im wrong, but I fear them dragging this out til Black gets a win and they then give the job to him
baldie
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11:45pm Tue 9 Oct 12
whittleblue wrote:Good post,but i am getting worried.There are 2 jobs to fill now,and only 538 potential managers to fill them.
Are we competing with Bolton? Will big continental names be in the frame for the Bolton job? What have Bolton actually won in the last twenty years? Apart from a couple of European exploits under sam not a lot. Blackburn Rovers has regularly been competing in europe until fairly recently. people said who'd want the job if kean went. well it seems some pretty big names want the job. Even with the venky factor this is still a sort after managers job
Let's just hope Bolton appoint theirs first,just so the moaners on here can cry all day that we should have had him,whoever he is.
Bryan Douglas supporter
says...
12:01am Wed 10 Oct 12
I like the bit about the owners looking for someone with a "passing football" philosophy. Now let's not get technical, Venky's / Mrs. D, assuming you said that bit (sounds like Shebby or Agnew, to me). Do you really mean someone with a "passing knowledge of football"? e.g.: Black, Hendry, Shearer and some Indian Coach we have never heard of (but Mrs. D. likes).
smellthecoffee
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12:16am Wed 10 Oct 12
eo2riversider
says...
1:16am Wed 10 Oct 12
77'sss
says...
5:28am Wed 10 Oct 12
whappen
says...
5:49am Wed 10 Oct 12
kenbro wrote:"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate", "It could be a shortlist of one, it could be a shortlist of three or four"
The owners have a "passing football philosophy" ?. The way they have run our club could mean that we are passing into history.
Usual double talk from Singh; there is always a lot of it but nothing is ever said.
Interesting the owners who knew nothing (and all evidence suggests still do not know anything) about football and happily watched Kean's half-a$$ed hoofball for two years actually have a "passing football philosophy".
My ar$e.
These people are an absolute and total joke. They do not have idea one about what they are doing. You'd think even they realise they cannot afford to give Black the job, but the worry is they don't and they will.
whappen
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5:58am Wed 10 Oct 12
Bryan Douglas supporter wrote:I thought it was more a "Rabbit in the headlights" philosophy; or "Run a football club like a KFC" philosophy or how about "Take advice from individuals driven totally by self interest and allow ourselves to be screwed" philosophy.
"Patience", Shebby asks. If patience is a God's given gift, please God give me mine now! How much longer? I've seen Murphy move quicker than this lot can draw up a simple short-list. Much longer and it will run longer than "Les Miserables" (that's a musical from the French Revolution when the revolutionaries manned the barricades and eventually chopped off the heads of the 'management ' - I'm sure 'French Rover' will confirm). I like the bit about the owners looking for someone with a "passing football" philosophy. Now let's not get technical, Venky's / Mrs. D, assuming you said that bit (sounds like Shebby or Agnew, to me). Do you really mean someone with a "passing knowledge of football"? e.g.: Black, Hendry, Shearer and some Indian Coach we have never heard of (but Mrs. D. likes).
whittaker0
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7:41am Wed 10 Oct 12
A Darener
says...
7:51am Wed 10 Oct 12
FannyTickler wrote:Now who is moaning?
Venky's never wanted Kean to go so of course they're going to f*** it up. Expect Black/Hendry until the end of the season with Judan Ali joining the coaching staff to be groomed as a future No.1. This farce still has legs...
1riversider
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8:02am Wed 10 Oct 12
French Rover
says...
8:15am Wed 10 Oct 12
Matt Newcastle wrote:Fantastic Club it is Matt, despite almost two years of mismanagement of it by Kean and our owners. Now Shebby continues the debacle with his 'give us time we will not be rushed' mantra.
French Rover wrote:FR Hi
Matt Newcastle wrote: Folks don't panic With Notts Forest and now Leeds likely to get new owners Rovers WILL in my opinion get this one right. Don't know why after everything they have done to date. As for top names the NW has ( City's rise has enhanced it) a big attraction with managers, and players. Jet set lifestyle and more importantly a part of the world / country the WAGS are prepared for their other halves to move to for a footballing job. Do you think Shearer would consider a move back to Blackburn if his misses wasn't happy to move back down here. Why does Roy Keane still banker after staying when he has a 1.5 million a year deal in Turkey I think. Liverpool City United jet set and WAGs culture. Most live on the Southport coast or posh South Manchester Alderley Edge set. Harvey Nichs / Armani etc in Manchester. You don't get that any where else but London. So for these reasons ( and probably not the right reasons) there will always be big names interested in good NW clubs I think they will opt for what we would all perceive to be a big name I don't know why however I think they will get it right. Prepared to eat my words if they don't. There willActually Matt despite your strange fashionista rant about the glories of Manchester and the WAGS? - there is both a Harvey Nicks and an Armani in Birmingham too - plus Harvey Nicks are also in Leeds and Bristol and Edinburgh et al...so not really exclusive to the NW. maybe they don't mind living around Manchester or Merseyside cos they cant see where they are - as it rains so hard all the time? But give a monkey enough 'peanuts' and they will live and play and manage anywhere...just hope the Venkys are willing to part with a good chunk of their store of peanuts..
Valid points
I think there is a bit of a WAGs type culture around the United City now Liverpool NW but your right.
Not really a rant however just a bit of a theory as to why SS is waxing lyrical as to the quality of the applicants who I suspect are 70 / 80 % similar as to who have put in for the Bolton job.
Just trying to sus out the applicants who truly wish to join our fantastic
club.
Sod not rushing....we have been in the sanity borderlands and the Venky wilderness for too long already, each new day has been filled with energy sapping frustration and desperation as the silliness piled on our club grows day by day ...
SS do whatever you are going to do by Monday. (Not 3 weeks from now)
Give us a decent (even half decent will do!) manager and put us out of our misery and let us get back to our enjoying our football and moving back up the table and back into the Prem.
RUinsane
says...
8:15am Wed 10 Oct 12
( Ole Gunnar Solskjar )
Keith Myath
says...
8:16am Wed 10 Oct 12
77'sss wrote:Not sure that would be a good idea; there'd be constant handbags with the Portuguese contingent! lol
I'd have Clemente so long as he brings iniesta xavi busquets Ramos and a couple of others with him
Rovers 1495
says...
8:30am Wed 10 Oct 12
Harwoodstblue wrote:It's OK, we'll just sit down, take our time, look at who's in the hat, and draw up a list ... BY WHICH TIME IT WILL BE TOO F*CKING LATE, YOU TOOLS, only Notlob's cast-offs will be left
ronnie clayton wrote:Ole Gunner Solskjaer is emerging as a major contender to become the next Bolton Wanderers manager.
Just noticed the betting at William Hills for the next Bolton Wanderers manager McCarthy is even money 1/1 and Solskjaer is 6/4 would suggest to Singh/Rovers please have a little bit more haste in making your decision the man you want, might not be available in 3 weeks by the time you make your "decision" .
Also note the first 8 managers on Wanderers list /favourites for the job at the Reabok are all very,very experienced managers.
Singh look and learn,experience is what we need right now, Kean had no management experience ,Keans chums Hendry and Black the only experience they have had in coaching/management is as complete failures .
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Come on Venkys, pull your fingers out
jag kalsi
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9:23am Wed 10 Oct 12
What about Glenn Hoddle for Manager?
I understand he is a excellent coach and highly rated throughout europe.
He will bring an attractive style of play.
I believe he revolutionised Chelsea before the Abram era.
He improved the like of Eddie Newton, Frank Sinclair and he records speaks for itself.
His time at England was tainted not for footballing reasons but for non footballing comments.
He would be the one of top of my list.
ronnie clayton
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9:31am Wed 10 Oct 12
kitchener2
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9:46am Wed 10 Oct 12
walshy2866
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9:57am Wed 10 Oct 12
Amazing though how differently the clubs are run, Bolton gave him the bullet at the right time, relegation followed by a bad start with poor defending to blame. Rovers kept giving SK chance after chance , one disaster to the next and only finally succumbed when fans threatened a total boycott of wolves game.
This indicates to me they'll appoint faster than us without all the bull5hit of the "shebby shortlist". Another indication of the farce than these clowns are running
Only good thing of getting greedy Coyle is , it would spice up our visit to the dingles in December, especially if they've got SK to replace rentboy Howe when he's decided he has to go back to a bigger club and heads for the south coast
buzzinfly
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3:02pm Wed 10 Oct 12
pepperpot2296
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4:05pm Wed 10 Oct 12
pepperpot2296
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4:05pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Dingle Infiltrator
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9:00pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Of course, Black was Kean's understudy and he is no Steve Kean, as the lack of goals demonstrate. But he is very good at standing around with Colin Hendry - a.k.a "THE ORC" who sulkily chews on his gum offering nothing except aggression towards elderly neighbours when they ask for a portion of their life savings back.
However, two hard drinking Scottish deadbeats are more than adequate for a club of your stature. You used to manage with just one! While Kean left you and is soon to sue for constructive dismissal (a case he will most certainly win just as soon as the judge sees Shebby's comical peformance at the fans' meeting), you will just have to make do with his self appointed replacement - Mr Black.
I'd like to see a bit more of Shebby around the dug out. Him and Hendry could have fruitful discussions about the midfield tactics, and these could be passed on to Black, who would benefit greatly from Shebby and Colin's experience. Perhaps he could instruct Jordan Rhodes to go and steal his next door neighbour's life savings on a rare forward raid?
I trust you find this advice to be of use.
Or you could just appoint Alan Shearer. And then I will laugh my f*ucking head off.
Go ahead....make my day”
ronnie clayton
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9:27pm Wed 10 Oct 12
So they are going to simply bring in probably a ex-player (no experience in management so should be quite cheap) probably not Sherwood , Spurs want 3 million pounds release contract they wont pay that,so unless they do it looks like Shearer , and they will keep both Keans mates Black the nonentity/bland person and Hendry ,Keans big pal, driver ,drinking partner ,and bully and swindler of old peoples life savings.
Don`t forget they look at their transfer buys like Rhodes and Best as investments that they can sell on and hopefully make a nice few million on it
sometime down the track.
Dingle Infiltrator
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1:54am Thu 11 Oct 12
ronnie clayton wrote:You say of Colin Hendry:
Its beginning to feel as though it`s going to be a decision for the manager based on cost , I think they know they won`t get away with Black (3 very poor results) I THINK their preferred option,because its the cheapest option.
So they are going to simply bring in probably a ex-player (no experience in management so should be quite cheap) probably not Sherwood , Spurs want 3 million pounds release contract they wont pay that,so unless they do it looks like Shearer , and they will keep both Keans mates Black the nonentity/bland person and Hendry ,Keans big pal, driver ,drinking partner ,and bully and swindler of old peoples life savings.
Don`t forget they look at their transfer buys like Rhodes and Best as investments that they can sell on and hopefully make a nice few million on it
sometime down the track.
"Hendry ,Keans big pal, driver ,drinking partner ,and bully and swindler of old peoples life savings."
You forgot to mention he is a bloo.dy good impersonator of an ORC.
I was wondering why did they bother having a body guard for Kean when there's that massive ugly f*uck.
Surely those bullying swindling skills come in useful when you're stood about by the dug out doing exactly bog all except for chewing gum? No? Perhaps I got it wrong
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5:42am Thu 11 Oct 12
smellthecoffee wrote:I don't think comparing their playing records is a good way to big up Shearer; I think you'll find Keane wins that hands down.
rhodie110961 wrote: Shearer isn`t coming here to play,he`s retired . Sorry to state the obvious but that is the only conclusion I can think of that some want him back, Look what happened with the last inexperienced manager we had ,have you already forgotten?I would think Shearer is a little bit more experienced than Kean....look at their playing record for starters. The most important attributes are respect from the supporters, the squad and the management....then you've got a chance. Lose any one of those and the rest soon follow...then results go bad. I think Kean had about 33% of one of those and perhaps 5% for the other two. If the club dilly dallies for much longer they could find Bolton taking the best candidate.
He also has much more experience in management.
Not that I would want Mr Angry but, on paper at least, he would make more sense. And they'd be able to sell season tickets for his monthly meetings with Venkys. Especially after a long flight to India.
Now that would be entertaining.
MxMave
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1:50pm Fri 12 Oct 12
givet82 wrote:Well your one of the very few who doesn't hold this opinion. Nowhere have I said that I have any sort of insider info, i'm just pointing out the obvious. I know some Rovers fans just trot down to Ewood every week, not caring about the team, the performances, the manager, the owners, they jus sit in the bar drinking the whole match not even glancing up at the tv.
MxMave wrote:It's all fine having an opinion, but don't pretend to know more than everyone else. Comments what you have said are truly unbelievable, you promise all Rover's fans that Black is the new manager! Unless your name is Agnew or Shaw you know nothing. As for reading between the lines you are bad at that too, this process is what all clubs go through and we didn't go through it when we sacked big Sam. I would happily bet you a tenner that our next manager would not be Black, but i don't know and neither do you so please stop promising what you don't know about. As Well i'm sure you tried to "read between the lines" with Rhodes and said no way Venky's will spend that sort of money, they will just go for the cheap option, how did that turn out! Protest against Venkys on your own, no excuses will stop me having a pint and supporting my team! They put their money in now it's time to turn up and stop the moaning even if we get Shearer which a lot don't want . Support your team it's in your blood.
givet82 wrote:It's called reading between the lines.
MxMave wrote:And you know this how? Assumptions are the mother of all **** ups
Am I the only one who see's the striking similarities between this statement and previous situations at ewood?
"bide our time"
"make sure we get it right"
"keep supporting Black"
"Black is preparing the players"
"It has been a very difficult week for Eric, with three games in seven days"
"We could make a decision in a week, it could take three weeks, I will not let circumstances dictate."
Sounds remarkably similar to the "we will decide steve keans future" statements.
In other words, we are keeping Black at the helm and were going to lead you on that we are looking for a new manager when all we really want to do is wait for Black to string 2 or 3 wins together so that we can offer him a professional contract and claim he's the right man for the job.
I promise you this Rovers faithful, they have brought thier chosen men in already, for whatever reason Kean wasn't sacked will be the same reason Black won't be sacked. There is an arrangement in place whereby someone else is picking the team and Black/Kean are jus figureheads who are so spineless they will let it happen and take home a fat pay cheque.
Do you really believe all this tripe? What club takes months over EVERY single decision? You can see the lies in Shebbys eyes when he speaks.
Now Bolton need a manager and guess who will get one first, i fully expect Bolton like any normal club to have an appointment by early next week at the latest.
We are being strung along by the same set of lies, are you actually sat there looking at your monitor saying "yes, yes Shebby we need to take our time over this one and make sure Black is in charge for the next game JUST incase we don't get a manager in, he is doing a great job with the lads and we are looking like a good unit under him".
Wake up man, Venkys are playing for time yet again and we all just eat out of thier hands as they mock us from afar. If Schuster and Clemente have put thier CV's into the ring then what else is to discuss? We have our choice of experienced managers, why wait til "thursday".... possibly because this is close to the weekend so no approaches will be made until next week? Then the "approach" may be dragged out over a few weeks whilst Venky's pray that Black gets one win so they can hail him as a man with great prospects.
Football is a "something to tell my mates i did on saturday" when you absolutely no clue what is transpiring. Do you really believe Venky's forked out £8mil for Rhodes from thier back pockets? It's widely reported the £8mil was taken directly from parachute payments. Rhodes would be nowhere near our club if we didn't have that cash. I'd love to see the Venky's balance books because im fairly confident they have made money since they started at brfc.
The fact that your club has been shat on for the last 3 years by the same people and YOU STILL believe they are going to do right by the club this time is testament only to your blind faith.
Fancy me coming round to your house doing some contract work? I won't turn up for a few weeks and then ill do a bit and walk away claiming i need "more time" and im sure you'll understand, then i'll tag an extra charge onto the bill, thats the professional way to go about things and you don't know for sure that I wont be back so im sure you'll keep your faith in me and continue to reccomend me to your friends and family.
Most people don't like being pee'd on but you seem to stand there head tward the sky with your mouth open.

kazz says...
10:00am Tue 9 Oct 12