Kean: We may just get away with Albion loss

STEVE Kean admits his Blackburn Rovers side were ‘let off the hook’ by their relegation rivals on Saturday after admitting they had an off day at the Hawthorns.

The Rovers boss described his side’s first 45 minutes as not good enough during their 3-0 defeat at West Brom but insists their second half response was ‘excellent’.

Defeats elsewhere though for Wolves, Wigan and Bolton on Saturday, followed by QPR’s 2-0 loss at Manchester United yesterday, meant Rovers did not lose any ground on the teams around them in the table.

Kean said: “We were disap-pointed with the first half but delighted with the response after I spoke to the players at half time.

“We controlled possession and made chances.

“But at those vital times you’ve got to take your chances.

“But maybe we’ve been fortunate with the other results in that we’ve had a bad day but we might get away with it in the longer run.”

West Brom dominated the first half on Saturday with Martin Olsson’s early own goal giving them the half time lead.

Rovers stormed back after the break though and were only denied an equaliser by a stunning double save by Ben Foster from Yakubu and Bradley Orr, before West Brom once more took control.

“We have to look at the first half because we were poor,” said Kean.

“We brought a lot of pressure on ourselves early on. But we changed it at half time and I thought the response from the lads was excellent. We had about 17 or 18 minutes where West Brom could not get out of their half.

“During that period was the double save from Foster and that was the pivotal moment. I think if Yakubu or Bradley had put that in, it would have been very different.

“I think the response was good.

“We had enough attempts to at least get two or three goals.

“To lose three goals from set plays was disappointing.

“The first goal is disappointing because if Martin gets a better contact on it, it is cleared. But I think West Brom are a good side and have good delivery.

“I’m not saying we deserved to win but we didn’t deserve to lose by three.”

Kean is hopeful striker Anthony Modeste will be available for Rovers’ next three games, despite seeing the striker see red late on.

Modeste was dismissed for ‘intent’ after waving his foot in the direction of Billy Jones but Kean confirmed the club would appeal.

Kean said: “Jones kicks the ball away, which he gets the yellow card for, and Anthony looks as though he is going to lash out but has changed his mind at the last minute and managed to restrain himself.

“If the rule says it is intent I would argue he has actually held his temper and changed his mind and I think it would be harsh if he got three games for that.

“Hopefully the ref will have a look at it and if we can make a good appeal then great.”

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10:43am Mon 9 Apr 12

burner says...

Can't fault players' attitude . . . BUT . . . I shall not be going to Ewood again. No renewal of ST unless Venkys are gone. Will buy again if they go, even in Championship. They MUST go.
Can't fault players' attitude . . . BUT . . . I shall not be going to Ewood again. No renewal of ST unless Venkys are gone. Will buy again if they go, even in Championship. They MUST go. burner

10:48am Mon 9 Apr 12

French Rover says...

hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed.

Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....
hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed. Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening..... French Rover

10:48am Mon 9 Apr 12

rover77 says...

burner wrote:
Can't fault players' attitude . . . BUT . . . I shall not be going to Ewood again. No renewal of ST unless Venkys are gone. Will buy again if they go, even in Championship. They MUST go.
totally agree and i wont be renewing either till they go!! i hope the majority will do the same.
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: Can't fault players' attitude . . . BUT . . . I shall not be going to Ewood again. No renewal of ST unless Venkys are gone. Will buy again if they go, even in Championship. They MUST go.[/p][/quote]totally agree and i wont be renewing either till they go!! i hope the majority will do the same. rover77

10:50am Mon 9 Apr 12

reiko082 says...

"Slow start cost Rovers"

Was that the slow start to the West Brom game? Slow start to the January transfer window? Slow start to the season? Slow start to your management career? Slow start to VILEky's plan for Europe?

... or a slow start on the public transport system on Saturday morning?

Cv^t.
"Slow start cost Rovers" Was that the slow start to the West Brom game? Slow start to the January transfer window? Slow start to the season? Slow start to your management career? Slow start to VILEky's plan for Europe? ... or a slow start on the public transport system on Saturday morning? Cv^t. reiko082

10:59am Mon 9 Apr 12

Only1Garner says...

Does this mean we will only finish 11th now instead of the top 10 place we were promised?
Does this mean we will only finish 11th now instead of the top 10 place we were promised? Only1Garner

11:00am Mon 9 Apr 12

Bombay Duck Club says...

BUT why did we have an "off day" at The Hawthorns? Was it for the same reason that we had an "off day" in the critical game against Bolton? Was it for the same reason we have had 18 "off days" so far this season? AND how many more "off days" will we have before the end of the season? The truth is that we have more "off days" than on days! In fact they aren't "off days" at all. They are the norm and the reasons for them are the manager and the owners. VENKY'S OUT KEAN OUT
BUT why did we have an "off day" at The Hawthorns? Was it for the same reason that we had an "off day" in the critical game against Bolton? Was it for the same reason we have had 18 "off days" so far this season? AND how many more "off days" will we have before the end of the season? The truth is that we have more "off days" than on days! In fact they aren't "off days" at all. They are the norm and the reasons for them are the manager and the owners. VENKY'S OUT KEAN OUT Bombay Duck Club

11:02am Mon 9 Apr 12

tugaycomeback says...

You don't even need to read the article anymore, you could recite it word for word without seeing it; 'i thought we were excellent' should NEVER come into any review of saturday's performance. He reckons the result flattered them?? - doesn't matter, we lost. 3 - 0 against west brom. when we are supposedly scrapping for our survival.

Steve Kean, you have had more time to prove that you have enough managerial talent than anyone else would have been given and you are still failing miserably. I said after the abuse started raining in that nobody should have to deal with that and that all I would be judging you on is team selection and tactics; purely on that basis, Steve Kean, you are shyte.
You don't even need to read the article anymore, you could recite it word for word without seeing it; 'i thought we were excellent' should NEVER come into any review of saturday's performance. He reckons the result flattered them?? - doesn't matter, we lost. 3 - 0 against west brom. when we are supposedly scrapping for our survival. Steve Kean, you have had more time to prove that you have enough managerial talent than anyone else would have been given and you are still failing miserably. I said after the abuse started raining in that nobody should have to deal with that and that all I would be judging you on is team selection and tactics; purely on that basis, Steve Kean, you are shyte. tugaycomeback

11:03am Mon 9 Apr 12

vic56 says...

Place your bets on what excuses he'll give if we get relegated.
Dunn-"Stick together." Glad he didn't lump the fans in with that. I can't stick with Kean and Venky's next season- how can I renew my season ticket and put more money into their pockets and conitnue to watch my club die and be treated like dirt in the Darwen End.
Place your bets on what excuses he'll give if we get relegated. Dunn-"Stick together." Glad he didn't lump the fans in with that. I can't stick with Kean and Venky's next season- how can I renew my season ticket and put more money into their pockets and conitnue to watch my club die and be treated like dirt in the Darwen End. vic56

11:10am Mon 9 Apr 12

riversidefan says...

French Rover wrote:
hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed.

Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....
Believe it or not but Terry Connor at Wolves has outdone Kean this weekend with his own Keanism:

"My family are very supportive with what is going on, they see this as an opportunity, as I do, and I am enjoying every minute of it. It has been great.

"I feel I am picking the right teams for the games. We work on it in training, we prepare properly with video sessions - we do everything we can in order to try to win the game."
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed. Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....[/p][/quote]Believe it or not but Terry Connor at Wolves has outdone Kean this weekend with his own Keanism: "My family are very supportive with what is going on, they see this as an opportunity, as I do, and I am enjoying every minute of it. It has been great. "I feel I am picking the right teams for the games. We work on it in training, we prepare properly with video sessions - we do everything we can in order to try to win the game." riversidefan

11:11am Mon 9 Apr 12

Sherwoodforest says...

Dont panic

Super SK promised us a top ten finish!
Dont panic Super SK promised us a top ten finish! Sherwoodforest

11:13am Mon 9 Apr 12

dangerous dave says...

Kean said he had good 'omens' about the visit the WBA - this man does not think - his mouth runs 'riot' - all rubbish!!
We were well beaten by WBA and whilst the other results for the bottom team kept us in the same position Keans 'omens' must now be telling him we are gong down.
A win at Bolton and at least a draw at WBA would have left us sitting a little more comfortable position - so you idiot Kean I am waiting for yet another silly statement of my season starts now, judge me next week and we are in for a top ten position!!!!! come on lets have more of your ill conceived comments you plank!!!
OUT WITH KEAN AND OUT WITH THE VENKYS
Kean said he had good 'omens' about the visit the WBA - this man does not think - his mouth runs 'riot' - all rubbish!! We were well beaten by WBA and whilst the other results for the bottom team kept us in the same position Keans 'omens' must now be telling him we are gong down. A win at Bolton and at least a draw at WBA would have left us sitting a little more comfortable position - so you idiot Kean I am waiting for yet another silly statement of my season starts now, judge me next week and we are in for a top ten position!!!!! come on lets have more of your ill conceived comments you plank!!! OUT WITH KEAN AND OUT WITH THE VENKYS dangerous dave

11:15am Mon 9 Apr 12

smellthecoffee says...

riversidefan wrote:
French Rover wrote:
hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed.

Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....
Believe it or not but Terry Connor at Wolves has outdone Kean this weekend with his own Keanism:

"My family are very supportive with what is going on, they see this as an opportunity, as I do, and I am enjoying every minute of it. It has been great.

"I feel I am picking the right teams for the games. We work on it in training, we prepare properly with video sessions - we do everything we can in order to try to win the game."
haha you couldn't make it up....maybe we should join an alliance with the Wolves and rid both clubs of the scumbag owners. Venky's must be close to owning the club outright now (with the Samba money). How would Jack Walker have reacted knowing his legacy was given away to a bunch of cowboys and indians? What hope for the club now?
[quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed. Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....[/p][/quote]Believe it or not but Terry Connor at Wolves has outdone Kean this weekend with his own Keanism: "My family are very supportive with what is going on, they see this as an opportunity, as I do, and I am enjoying every minute of it. It has been great. "I feel I am picking the right teams for the games. We work on it in training, we prepare properly with video sessions - we do everything we can in order to try to win the game."[/p][/quote]haha you couldn't make it up....maybe we should join an alliance with the Wolves and rid both clubs of the scumbag owners. Venky's must be close to owning the club outright now (with the Samba money). How would Jack Walker have reacted knowing his legacy was given away to a bunch of cowboys and indians? What hope for the club now? smellthecoffee

11:21am Mon 9 Apr 12

Sherwoodforest says...

HOW NOT TO OPERATE A FOOTBALL CLUB


by B.Rao, S.Dream and Mr A.
HOW NOT TO OPERATE A FOOTBALL CLUB by B.Rao, S.Dream and Mr A. Sherwoodforest

11:34am Mon 9 Apr 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

French Rover wrote:
hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed.

Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....
Morning FR

Sense of de ja vu here. Season last at WBA, which I attended, I witnessed Kalinic score twice then get sent off and in my opinion sealed his unwarranted exit from Ewood Park thus we go Saturday on a wing and a prayer with Keans quote, which startled me considering the magnitude and low and behold Modeste is sent off contributing zero !

I watched on KOI sports and boy we were poor. The performance's since Bolton have become abject to say the least. I said to a reply week last I fear for our safety should we lose Saturday. The manner of the defeat along with trouncing again is very, very concerning. Those players must be feeling it no end pal.

Nothing but 3 points tomorrow will suffice.

I'm done my friend after this season until Kean is shown the door and Venky show some mettle for our club.

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed. Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....[/p][/quote]Morning FR Sense of de ja vu here. Season last at WBA, which I attended, I witnessed Kalinic score twice then get sent off and in my opinion sealed his unwarranted exit from Ewood Park thus we go Saturday on a wing and a prayer with Keans quote, which startled me considering the magnitude and low and behold Modeste is sent off contributing zero ! I watched on KOI sports and boy we were poor. The performance's since Bolton have become abject to say the least. I said to a reply week last I fear for our safety should we lose Saturday. The manner of the defeat along with trouncing again is very, very concerning. Those players must be feeling it no end pal. Nothing but 3 points tomorrow will suffice. I'm done my friend after this season until Kean is shown the door and Venky show some mettle for our club. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

11:47am Mon 9 Apr 12

Big Sams Blue & White Army says...

Please just keep us up. After that you and the Venky's can fuc* off. All they have brought to the club is embarrassment!
Please just keep us up. After that you and the Venky's can fuc* off. All they have brought to the club is embarrassment! Big Sams Blue & White Army

11:48am Mon 9 Apr 12

bring back the good old days says...

Unbelievable!

He is basically saying to lose is not so bad!

This comment justifies all of his tenure as BRFC manager.
His record says it all.
He is well out of his depth.
Unbelievable! He is basically saying to lose is not so bad! This comment justifies all of his tenure as BRFC manager. His record says it all. He is well out of his depth. bring back the good old days

11:58am Mon 9 Apr 12

tiojo says...

Mr Kean and Venky's are obviously immune to criticism. But you might expect that his own professional pride would lead him to realise that he is not up to the job. His record is abysmal. Rover's position is not down to bad luck it's down to bad judgement - Mr Kean's and Venky's. Mr Kean should do the honourable thing and resign.
Mr Kean and Venky's are obviously immune to criticism. But you might expect that his own professional pride would lead him to realise that he is not up to the job. His record is abysmal. Rover's position is not down to bad luck it's down to bad judgement - Mr Kean's and Venky's. Mr Kean should do the honourable thing and resign. tiojo

12:07pm Mon 9 Apr 12

jack01 says...

Oh well that's ok then Steve. Just as I was starting to worry about our league position and the utterly atrocious display at the Hawthorns on Saturday all is well because the sides around us lost. We should have seen Saturday as a great opportunity to get some daylight between us and QPR/wigan who were expected to lose their games plus there was a bonus with Horwich getting beat at home. What happens when we go to Spurs and Chelsea without a hope in hell of getting a result? Put simply we need a minimum of 7 points from our 3 home games. Over to you Kean.
Oh well that's ok then Steve. Just as I was starting to worry about our league position and the utterly atrocious display at the Hawthorns on Saturday all is well because the sides around us lost. We should have seen Saturday as a great opportunity to get some daylight between us and QPR/wigan who were expected to lose their games plus there was a bonus with Horwich getting beat at home. What happens when we go to Spurs and Chelsea without a hope in hell of getting a result? Put simply we need a minimum of 7 points from our 3 home games. Over to you Kean. jack01

12:13pm Mon 9 Apr 12

givet82 says...

right some of these posts are daft,yes kean and venky's are very useless but the people on here who keep saying kean promised us "top 10" that is a pathetic point to use against him,he is a crap manager just ambitious.Please use other stuff like signings ,subs,team selection etc.
right some of these posts are daft,yes kean and venky's are very useless but the people on here who keep saying kean promised us "top 10" that is a pathetic point to use against him,he is a crap manager just ambitious.Please use other stuff like signings ,subs,team selection etc. givet82

12:15pm Mon 9 Apr 12

carlmc says...

I guess we got away with selling 4 centre halves, signing players not up to scratch, appointing a manager who doesn't know what he is doing and allowing all our money to be stolen by agents and chicken farmers.

It depends on what you mean, by getting away with it Steve. I have felt awful because of the defeat on Saturday and even more awful about how this and season and last season have gone. But then again, I don't get away with taking £1.3 Million per season from the club. If I did then maybe I would think that I had got away with it too!
I guess we got away with selling 4 centre halves, signing players not up to scratch, appointing a manager who doesn't know what he is doing and allowing all our money to be stolen by agents and chicken farmers. It depends on what you mean, by getting away with it Steve. I have felt awful because of the defeat on Saturday and even more awful about how this and season and last season have gone. But then again, I don't get away with taking £1.3 Million per season from the club. If I did then maybe I would think that I had got away with it too! carlmc

12:22pm Mon 9 Apr 12

merlinrabbit says...

givet82 wrote:
right some of these posts are daft,yes kean and venky's are very useless but the people on here who keep saying kean promised us "top 10" that is a pathetic point to use against him,he is a crap manager just ambitious.Please use other stuff like signings ,subs,team selection etc.
I think they are just pointing out how even more ridiculous Kean now looks after his many bullish statements. I think those statements are relevant. They illustrate what a load of **** and bull we have been fed over 18months.
[quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: right some of these posts are daft,yes kean and venky's are very useless but the people on here who keep saying kean promised us "top 10" that is a pathetic point to use against him,he is a crap manager just ambitious.Please use other stuff like signings ,subs,team selection etc.[/p][/quote]I think they are just pointing out how even more ridiculous Kean now looks after his many bullish statements. I think those statements are relevant. They illustrate what a load of **** and bull we have been fed over 18months. merlinrabbit

12:27pm Mon 9 Apr 12

bossindian says...

rover77 wrote:
burner wrote:
Can't fault players' attitude . . . BUT . . . I shall not be going to Ewood again. No renewal of ST unless Venkys are gone. Will buy again if they go, even in Championship. They MUST go.
totally agree and i wont be renewing either till they go!! i hope the majority will do the same.
Season Ticket renewal Forms went straight in the shredder. Venkys wont leave, so I will. Sorry Rovers see you on the 'other side'.
[quote][p][bold]rover77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: Can't fault players' attitude . . . BUT . . . I shall not be going to Ewood again. No renewal of ST unless Venkys are gone. Will buy again if they go, even in Championship. They MUST go.[/p][/quote]totally agree and i wont be renewing either till they go!! i hope the majority will do the same.[/p][/quote]Season Ticket renewal Forms went straight in the shredder. Venkys wont leave, so I will. Sorry Rovers see you on the 'other side'. bossindian

12:30pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Billypieman says...

There's only one person who is "getting away with it". God knows how.
There's only one person who is "getting away with it". God knows how. Billypieman

12:49pm Mon 9 Apr 12

RoverInRotterdam says...

Kean,venkys &co you make me sick to the pit of my stomach. You really are just scum.how you've been allowed to bring our once proud and respected club down to the level it is now is shameful and proves just how dishonourable venkys,kean,anderson and co are.Surely you've all grown rich enough from the rape of our Club.Leave now,while we have at least some of our Club left standing.....R.T.I.D
.....
Kean,venkys &co you make me sick to the pit of my stomach. You really are just scum.how you've been allowed to bring our once proud and respected club down to the level it is now is shameful and proves just how dishonourable venkys,kean,anderson and co are.Surely you've all grown rich enough from the rape of our Club.Leave now,while we have at least some of our Club left standing.....R.T.I.D ..... RoverInRotterdam

12:54pm Mon 9 Apr 12

riversidefan says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
givet82 wrote:
right some of these posts are daft,yes kean and venky's are very useless but the people on here who keep saying kean promised us "top 10" that is a pathetic point to use against him,he is a crap manager just ambitious.Please use other stuff like signings ,subs,team selection etc.
I think they are just pointing out how even more ridiculous Kean now looks after his many bullish statements. I think those statements are relevant. They illustrate what a load of **** and bull we have been fed over 18months.
Agreed. When some in the media are calling for Kean to be name manager of the year it doesn't do any harm to remind them that even by his own words he's failed miserably. Much in the same way Benitez "guaranteed" Liverpool a top four finish when it was clear to everyone they wouldn't. Personally I prefer to laugh at Keanism rather than refect on his signings, subs, etc.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: right some of these posts are daft,yes kean and venky's are very useless but the people on here who keep saying kean promised us "top 10" that is a pathetic point to use against him,he is a crap manager just ambitious.Please use other stuff like signings ,subs,team selection etc.[/p][/quote]I think they are just pointing out how even more ridiculous Kean now looks after his many bullish statements. I think those statements are relevant. They illustrate what a load of **** and bull we have been fed over 18months.[/p][/quote]Agreed. When some in the media are calling for Kean to be name manager of the year it doesn't do any harm to remind them that even by his own words he's failed miserably. Much in the same way Benitez "guaranteed" Liverpool a top four finish when it was clear to everyone they wouldn't. Personally I prefer to laugh at Keanism rather than refect on his signings, subs, etc. riversidefan

1:09pm Mon 9 Apr 12

BritishBulldog says...

Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved.

Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team.

As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold.

All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason.

You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.
Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved. Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team. As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold. All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason. You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year. BritishBulldog

1:20pm Mon 9 Apr 12

carlmc says...

BritishBulldog wrote:
Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved.

Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team.

As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold.

All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason.

You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.
Perhaps we should just stick with what we have then and let them keep on taking the money.

Have you any idea were the unexpected Samba money is?
[quote][p][bold]BritishBulldog[/bold] wrote: Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved. Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team. As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold. All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason. You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we should just stick with what we have then and let them keep on taking the money. Have you any idea were the unexpected Samba money is? carlmc

1:24pm Mon 9 Apr 12

LanghoDAN says...

Hi dangerous dave langho dan quite agreeing with you once more it's funny how he stuck with the same defence as man united last week and couldn't bring his bum chum on givet,so that's another lie and once again we got beat. dangerous dave says...
11:13am Mon 9 Apr 12
said he had good 'omens' about the visit the WBA - this man does not think - his mouth runs 'riot' - all rubbish!!
We were well beaten by WBA and whilst the other results for the bottom team kept us in the same position Keans 'omens' must now be telling him we are gong down.
A win at Bolton and at least a draw at WBA would have left us sitting a little more comfortable position - so you idiot Kean I am waiting for yet another silly statement of my season starts now, judge me next week and we are in for a top ten position!!!!! come on lets have more of your ill conceived comments you plank!!!
OUT WITH KEAN AND OUT WITH THE VENKYS
Langho dan the window cleaner
Hi dangerous dave langho dan quite agreeing with you once more it's funny how he stuck with the same defence as man united last week and couldn't bring his bum chum on givet,so that's another lie and once again we got beat. dangerous dave says... 11:13am Mon 9 Apr 12 said he had good 'omens' about the visit the WBA - this man does not think - his mouth runs 'riot' - all rubbish!! We were well beaten by WBA and whilst the other results for the bottom team kept us in the same position Keans 'omens' must now be telling him we are gong down. A win at Bolton and at least a draw at WBA would have left us sitting a little more comfortable position - so you idiot Kean I am waiting for yet another silly statement of my season starts now, judge me next week and we are in for a top ten position!!!!! come on lets have more of your ill conceived comments you plank!!! OUT WITH KEAN AND OUT WITH THE VENKYS Langho dan the window cleaner LanghoDAN

1:32pm Mon 9 Apr 12

French Rover says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
French Rover wrote:
hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed.

Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....
Morning FR

Sense of de ja vu here. Season last at WBA, which I attended, I witnessed Kalinic score twice then get sent off and in my opinion sealed his unwarranted exit from Ewood Park thus we go Saturday on a wing and a prayer with Keans quote, which startled me considering the magnitude and low and behold Modeste is sent off contributing zero !

I watched on KOI sports and boy we were poor. The performance's since Bolton have become abject to say the least. I said to a reply week last I fear for our safety should we lose Saturday. The manner of the defeat along with trouncing again is very, very concerning. Those players must be feeling it no end pal.

Nothing but 3 points tomorrow will suffice.

I'm done my friend after this season until Kean is shown the door and Venky show some mettle for our club.

Arte et labore
Bonjour Mr Runner....yes very poor indeed, a shambles even. I really don't know how SK can possibly lift these young lads up to get a crucial win against Liverpool..? But without three points from this game then it makes our task of staying up certainly improbable if not quite impossible. Still a few twists and turns yet but the games are running out very quickly now for all five teams.

Boltons so called 'easy run-in' seems to be getting harder for them with each passing game....

Wigan are playing some good football and were unlucky to lose at Chelsea but they cant keep that same level up till the end of the season - methinks they peaked too early..

Wolves are doomed and won now.

QPR may have been clear now if Cisse had not kept getting sent off - but they are still very much in the danger zone could go either way but just a feeling they may escape...

Rovers - well even if we lose against Liverpool tomorrow we still have Norwich and Wigan at home which 'could' get us six points and with the way things are going could just be enough for us to stay up too...

So Bolton, Wigan and Wolves to go down....

BTW RR whatever happens with our owners and manager I predict you will not be 'done' with the Rovers. You are infected to the same degree as me and many others with these darned blue and white bloodcells and it is a long much drawn-out illness my friend from which we may never recover....had mine for over 50yrs!
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed. Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....[/p][/quote]Morning FR Sense of de ja vu here. Season last at WBA, which I attended, I witnessed Kalinic score twice then get sent off and in my opinion sealed his unwarranted exit from Ewood Park thus we go Saturday on a wing and a prayer with Keans quote, which startled me considering the magnitude and low and behold Modeste is sent off contributing zero ! I watched on KOI sports and boy we were poor. The performance's since Bolton have become abject to say the least. I said to a reply week last I fear for our safety should we lose Saturday. The manner of the defeat along with trouncing again is very, very concerning. Those players must be feeling it no end pal. Nothing but 3 points tomorrow will suffice. I'm done my friend after this season until Kean is shown the door and Venky show some mettle for our club. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Bonjour Mr Runner....yes very poor indeed, a shambles even. I really don't know how SK can possibly lift these young lads up to get a crucial win against Liverpool..? But without three points from this game then it makes our task of staying up certainly improbable if not quite impossible. Still a few twists and turns yet but the games are running out very quickly now for all five teams. Boltons so called 'easy run-in' seems to be getting harder for them with each passing game.... Wigan are playing some good football and were unlucky to lose at Chelsea but they cant keep that same level up till the end of the season - methinks they peaked too early.. Wolves are doomed and won now. QPR may have been clear now if Cisse had not kept getting sent off - but they are still very much in the danger zone could go either way but just a feeling they may escape... Rovers - well even if we lose against Liverpool tomorrow we still have Norwich and Wigan at home which 'could' get us six points and with the way things are going could just be enough for us to stay up too... So Bolton, Wigan and Wolves to go down.... BTW RR whatever happens with our owners and manager I predict you will not be 'done' with the Rovers. You are infected to the same degree as me and many others with these darned blue and white bloodcells and it is a long much drawn-out illness my friend from which we may never recover....had mine for over 50yrs! French Rover

1:35pm Mon 9 Apr 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

BritishDullblog, unfortunately your post is barely acerbic and not even remotely funny. It was Venkys who promised that the club would be carefully managed to the top 5, Europe and silverware. It was Venkys who embarrasingly chased Ronaldihno all the way to his home town in South America. It is Venkys pitiful appointments that have precipitated a total distrust of their administration and it is Venkys machinations that have instigated infighting amongst the fanbase.

What kind of club bans its own fans from bringing banners in, frisks women and children and appoints a drunk speeding driver as a manager?

If you have any association with Venkys, all that the fans ask is that you appoint a proper manager and provide the level of funding that you originally promised or actively seek alternative ownership and leave gracefully without doing anything spiteful.

BRST have already stated that their bid could only be successful if the club was devalued following relegation. I can't see Ferguson or the players you mention coming to Rovers whilst we are playing in the Championship. Venkys couldn't get anywhere close to that even in the days when we were an established mid-table side.
BritishDullblog, unfortunately your post is barely acerbic and not even remotely funny. It was Venkys who promised that the club would be carefully managed to the top 5, Europe and silverware. It was Venkys who embarrasingly chased Ronaldihno all the way to his home town in South America. It is Venkys pitiful appointments that have precipitated a total distrust of their administration and it is Venkys machinations that have instigated infighting amongst the fanbase. What kind of club bans its own fans from bringing banners in, frisks women and children and appoints a drunk speeding driver as a manager? If you have any association with Venkys, all that the fans ask is that you appoint a proper manager and provide the level of funding that you originally promised or actively seek alternative ownership and leave gracefully without doing anything spiteful. BRST have already stated that their bid could only be successful if the club was devalued following relegation. I can't see Ferguson or the players you mention coming to Rovers whilst we are playing in the Championship. Venkys couldn't get anywhere close to that even in the days when we were an established mid-table side. OnePostThenTheOther

1:48pm Mon 9 Apr 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

The first half when we were getting beat 1-0 was not good enough, but the second-half when West Brom scored from two unchallenged attempts on goal was "excellent"?

"We had about 17 or 18 minutes where West Brom could not get out of their half". So for barely 20% of the game we nearly scored against a bottom half side with little left to play for this season and a significant number of absentees?

"Hopefully Utd can put 5 past QPR"; "we may just get away with it", a half-time team talk and tactical changes that see us threaten for 20% of the game but makes the defence twice as bad as it was in the first half?

Surely when you read this crap back you must get some kind of idea why the fans are totally embarrassed that you have any association with our club.
The first half when we were getting beat 1-0 was not good enough, but the second-half when West Brom scored from two unchallenged attempts on goal was "excellent"? "We had about 17 or 18 minutes where West Brom could not get out of their half". So for barely 20% of the game we nearly scored against a bottom half side with little left to play for this season and a significant number of absentees? "Hopefully Utd can put 5 past QPR"; "we may just get away with it", a half-time team talk and tactical changes that see us threaten for 20% of the game but makes the defence twice as bad as it was in the first half? Surely when you read this crap back you must get some kind of idea why the fans are totally embarrassed that you have any association with our club. OnePostThenTheOther

1:51pm Mon 9 Apr 12

LanghoDAN says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Kean said he had good 'omens' about the visit the WBA - this man does not think - his mouth runs 'riot' - all rubbish!!
We were well beaten by WBA and whilst the other results for the bottom team kept us in the same position Keans 'omens' must now be telling him we are gong down.
A win at Bolton and at least a draw at WBA would have left us sitting a little more comfortable position - so you idiot Kean I am waiting for yet another silly statement of my season starts now, judge me next week and we are in for a top ten position!!!!! come on lets have more of your ill conceived comments you plank!!!
OUT WITH KEAN AND OUT WITH THE VENKYS
out with the kean out with the black, out with the chickens drumsticks, im afraid sk sending us down Dave,i knew we would get beat with west brom,but now we can put that aside and get beat of Liverpool on Tuesday,im afraid the scourers will do us sadly enough,and the banners will be out again HE'S A LAIR VENKYS ARE LAIRS FROM LANGHO DAN THE WINDOW CLEANER
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Kean said he had good 'omens' about the visit the WBA - this man does not think - his mouth runs 'riot' - all rubbish!! We were well beaten by WBA and whilst the other results for the bottom team kept us in the same position Keans 'omens' must now be telling him we are gong down. A win at Bolton and at least a draw at WBA would have left us sitting a little more comfortable position - so you idiot Kean I am waiting for yet another silly statement of my season starts now, judge me next week and we are in for a top ten position!!!!! come on lets have more of your ill conceived comments you plank!!! OUT WITH KEAN AND OUT WITH THE VENKYS[/p][/quote]out with the kean out with the black, out with the chickens drumsticks, im afraid sk sending us down Dave,i knew we would get beat with west brom,but now we can put that aside and get beat of Liverpool on Tuesday,im afraid the scourers will do us sadly enough,and the banners will be out again HE'S A LAIR VENKYS ARE LAIRS FROM LANGHO DAN THE WINDOW CLEANER LanghoDAN

2:00pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Justjes says...

No No No No No No No No No
No No No No No No No No No Justjes

2:11pm Mon 9 Apr 12

4youreyesonly says...

burner wrote:
Can't fault players' attitude . . . BUT . . . I shall not be going to Ewood again. No renewal of ST unless Venkys are gone. Will buy again if they go, even in Championship. They MUST go.
totally agree with burner, Kean has to go also , know room for drunken jocks either, his family must be so proud of him
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: Can't fault players' attitude . . . BUT . . . I shall not be going to Ewood again. No renewal of ST unless Venkys are gone. Will buy again if they go, even in Championship. They MUST go.[/p][/quote]totally agree with burner, Kean has to go also , know room for drunken jocks either, his family must be so proud of him 4youreyesonly

2:18pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

reiko082 wrote:
"Slow start cost Rovers" Was that the slow start to the West Brom game? Slow start to the January transfer window? Slow start to the season? Slow start to your management career? Slow start to VILEky's plan for Europe? ... or a slow start on the public transport system on Saturday morning? Cv^t.
Come on Reiko, you forgot The top ten finish, you forgot we will buy early in the Janurary transfer window to hit the ground running, you forgot the, Neilson is injured in New Zealand and two weeks later he is playing for Spurs, you forgot , Samba will NOT be sold, lies lies and more lies, Oh and to finish with the one he told the police, his wife his children, I have NOT had a drink officer!!! And FINNALY now Dunny has his contract extension he is calling for Unity, Bo--ocks to the lot of them.
[quote][p][bold]reiko082[/bold] wrote: "Slow start cost Rovers" Was that the slow start to the West Brom game? Slow start to the January transfer window? Slow start to the season? Slow start to your management career? Slow start to VILEky's plan for Europe? ... or a slow start on the public transport system on Saturday morning? Cv^t.[/p][/quote]Come on Reiko, you forgot The top ten finish, you forgot we will buy early in the Janurary transfer window to hit the ground running, you forgot the, Neilson is injured in New Zealand and two weeks later he is playing for Spurs, you forgot , Samba will NOT be sold, lies lies and more lies, Oh and to finish with the one he told the police, his wife his children, I have NOT had a drink officer!!! And FINNALY now Dunny has his contract extension he is calling for Unity, Bo--ocks to the lot of them. Lancs - pensioner

2:31pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Bill Carson says...

The writing's now on the wall. I'll tell you what the omens are Steve... Liverpool and a very wounded Kenny Dalglish will put Rovers to the sword on Tuesday night, mark my words.
Get out of OUR club!
The writing's now on the wall. I'll tell you what the omens are Steve... Liverpool and a very wounded Kenny Dalglish will put Rovers to the sword on Tuesday night, mark my words. Get out of OUR club! Bill Carson

2:43pm Mon 9 Apr 12

guiderover says...

In my opinion, if we stay up this season(I personally don't think we will now)it will be next season we go down and I dread to think how many points we would amass.What a total shambles!
In my opinion, if we stay up this season(I personally don't think we will now)it will be next season we go down and I dread to think how many points we would amass.What a total shambles! guiderover

2:50pm Mon 9 Apr 12

samsno2millfan says...

BritishBulldog wrote:
Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved. Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team. As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold. All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason. You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.
Point taken.

However, nobody is saying we have a devine right to stay in the EPL with the associated astronomical costs involved. Nor is anybody expecting us to be able to dine at the top table when signing players. When was the last time we bought a "top PL player", by the way? Even towards the end of the Jack Walker years, we couldn't come close to competing for the best players.

The BRST principles are sound; the management of the club cannot continue in the current chaotic fashion. They have put forward their figures based on realistic forecasts. Of course they are insufficient for us to be buying £20million players on 100 grand a week, but no-one is expecting us to.

Venkys have gone against all their commitments when they came in and torn the heart out of the club as a result.

Relegation will happen at some time in the future regardless of who is in charge - with Venkys, it will be sooner rather than later.

The management of the club must be able to handle this inevitability. I seriously doubt Mrs D and the brothers Rao can and will get out, losing as little money as possible. This may well result in a Portsmouth situation and the real threat of BRFC going into liquidation and equally possibly out of existence.

They are not asset stripping to make money, just to avoid losing it. Same thing I suppose.

This has already started, for example, with the contract issues and reasons for players being released, some confirmed, some not.

Please don't tell us "we should be careful what we wish for". Can you ever see youself looking back, wishing for the "good old days" of Kean and Venkys?

The Walker Trust may not have pumped millions into the club. They sold it on the strength of the commitments made by Venkys; we were all duped by those. What they did do was have people in place who knew what they were doing and understood what was required. This is exactly what is needed now to avoid total meltdown.

Can the BRST do that? Who knows? One thing is for sure the current owners most definitely cannot.
[quote][p][bold]BritishBulldog[/bold] wrote: Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved. Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team. As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold. All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason. You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.[/p][/quote]Point taken. However, nobody is saying we have a devine right to stay in the EPL with the associated astronomical costs involved. Nor is anybody expecting us to be able to dine at the top table when signing players. When was the last time we bought a "top PL player", by the way? Even towards the end of the Jack Walker years, we couldn't come close to competing for the best players. The BRST principles are sound; the management of the club cannot continue in the current chaotic fashion. They have put forward their figures based on realistic forecasts. Of course they are insufficient for us to be buying £20million players on 100 grand a week, but no-one is expecting us to. Venkys have gone against all their commitments when they came in and torn the heart out of the club as a result. Relegation will happen at some time in the future regardless of who is in charge - with Venkys, it will be sooner rather than later. The management of the club must be able to handle this inevitability. I seriously doubt Mrs D and the brothers Rao can and will get out, losing as little money as possible. This may well result in a Portsmouth situation and the real threat of BRFC going into liquidation and equally possibly out of existence. They are not asset stripping to make money, just to avoid losing it. Same thing I suppose. This has already started, for example, with the contract issues and reasons for players being released, some confirmed, some not. Please don't tell us "we should be careful what we wish for". Can you ever see youself looking back, wishing for the "good old days" of Kean and Venkys? The Walker Trust may not have pumped millions into the club. They sold it on the strength of the commitments made by Venkys; we were all duped by those. What they did do was have people in place who knew what they were doing and understood what was required. This is exactly what is needed now to avoid total meltdown. Can the BRST do that? Who knows? One thing is for sure the current owners most definitely cannot. samsno2millfan

2:50pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Ronaldpetercooper says...

I see that Kean is rambling on again and he does remind me of a manager of a club I played for in the 1960s. We were third in our league and needed to beat the team at the top to finish runners up. After 5 minutes we had the keeper sent off and we lost 7-0. After the game the boss came in and told us how well we had played and said 'We would have won today if they hadn't scored 6 or 7 lucky goals.' He got kicked out let us hope the same happens here.
We desparately needed to take at least 4 points from the last 3 games. Kean did say these were games we should get something from. I fear 'Pool will be difficult to get anything from as will Swansea away.
I reckon we need at least 7 points from somewhere. 2 defeats this week will be disasterous as I fear Wigan will get something at Ewood and what hope for Spurs away. That leaves Norwich at home and we should win that one and Chelsea away and hopefully they will have better things on their minds. Fingers crossed!
I see that Kean is rambling on again and he does remind me of a manager of a club I played for in the 1960s. We were third in our league and needed to beat the team at the top to finish runners up. After 5 minutes we had the keeper sent off and we lost 7-0. After the game the boss came in and told us how well we had played and said 'We would have won today if they hadn't scored 6 or 7 lucky goals.' He got kicked out let us hope the same happens here. We desparately needed to take at least 4 points from the last 3 games. Kean did say these were games we should get something from. I fear 'Pool will be difficult to get anything from as will Swansea away. I reckon we need at least 7 points from somewhere. 2 defeats this week will be disasterous as I fear Wigan will get something at Ewood and what hope for Spurs away. That leaves Norwich at home and we should win that one and Chelsea away and hopefully they will have better things on their minds. Fingers crossed! Ronaldpetercooper

2:59pm Mon 9 Apr 12

guiderover says...

Mr Kean seems to be looking at other teams scores now,which seems ominous.Try and get your own house in order,or better still do one!
Mr Kean seems to be looking at other teams scores now,which seems ominous.Try and get your own house in order,or better still do one! guiderover

3:23pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Justjes says...

Why don't the L E T neatly parcel all the comments up and send them to these numpteys
Why don't the L E T neatly parcel all the comments up and send them to these numpteys Justjes

3:33pm Mon 9 Apr 12

1875 Rovers says...

.. and then again we might not get away with it.

The League Table does not lie, we are down with the dead men.

We have been doomed to since you sneaked into the job Kean.

Kean out, Venky's out !
.. and then again we might not get away with it. The League Table does not lie, we are down with the dead men. We have been doomed to since you sneaked into the job Kean. Kean out, Venky's out ! 1875 Rovers

3:41pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Iiii1111 says...

What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO.
For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.
What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO. For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help. Iiii1111

3:46pm Mon 9 Apr 12

merlinrabbit says...

"If we can put the first 80 minutes against Manchester United and the first 20 minutes of the second half against West Brom together, and have an overall performance, we can certainly get a result." I doubt with a 100 minute game where the opposition left the field at the 90th minute we would get a result with this thicko as manager. How much longer must we suffer him? If he is voted Manager of the Season, English football will be a farce
"If we can put the first 80 minutes against Manchester United and the first 20 minutes of the second half against West Brom together, and have an overall performance, we can certainly get a result." I doubt with a 100 minute game where the opposition left the field at the 90th minute we would get a result with this thicko as manager. How much longer must we suffer him? If he is voted Manager of the Season, English football will be a farce merlinrabbit

3:59pm Mon 9 Apr 12

gleechy says...

I feel sorry for the poor players that have had to leave, especially poor Ryan Nelson, having to play for Spurs with his career theatening injury, it must be hard for them to keep a straight face. Looks like Hoilett will be adding his name to the list soon. Venks are digging themselves a deep hole by keeping hold of this Premier league club. They have probably built their business up with near slave labour, and expected to bring that into the premierleague. They are a dictatorship that doesn't discuss their intentions with it's paying guests. Even after twelve months of poor ownership for all to see. Their ignorance buys them time, but doesn't change the outcome.
I feel sorry for the poor players that have had to leave, especially poor Ryan Nelson, having to play for Spurs with his career theatening injury, it must be hard for them to keep a straight face. Looks like Hoilett will be adding his name to the list soon. Venks are digging themselves a deep hole by keeping hold of this Premier league club. They have probably built their business up with near slave labour, and expected to bring that into the premierleague. They are a dictatorship that doesn't discuss their intentions with it's paying guests. Even after twelve months of poor ownership for all to see. Their ignorance buys them time, but doesn't change the outcome. gleechy

4:03pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Only1Garner says...

Justjes wrote:
Why don't the L E T neatly parcel all the comments up and send them to these numpteys
They are too busy reading the 500 compliments a day they receive to read anything negative. Kean you are a PR*CK!!
[quote][p][bold]Justjes[/bold] wrote: Why don't the L E T neatly parcel all the comments up and send them to these numpteys[/p][/quote]They are too busy reading the 500 compliments a day they receive to read anything negative. Kean you are a PR*CK!! Only1Garner

4:33pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dangerous dave says...

Now then MrCryer print things as they really are and start asking Kean the relevant questions if you really have the nerve which actually I dont think you have!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH KEAN KEAN OUT WITH THE VENKYS
Now then MrCryer print things as they really are and start asking Kean the relevant questions if you really have the nerve which actually I dont think you have!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH KEAN KEAN OUT WITH THE VENKYS dangerous dave

4:45pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Bluegoose says...

Rovers 0 scousers 3
Rovers 0 scousers 3 Bluegoose

4:45pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Bluegoose says...

Rovers 0 scousers 3
Rovers 0 scousers 3 Bluegoose

4:45pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Bluegoose says...

Rovers 0 scousers 3
Rovers 0 scousers 3 Bluegoose

4:45pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Bluegoose says...

Rovers 0 scousers 3
Rovers 0 scousers 3 Bluegoose

5:04pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse.
Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.
Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse. Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve. Keep Darwen Green

5:16pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse.
Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.
Hi KDG, your slowly coming round to our way of thinking, it's not that bad realy, once you recognise it's ALL been lies from day one from Kean and the owners Wenkys ( no its spelt how I like it) welcome aboard!!
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse. Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.[/p][/quote]Hi KDG, your slowly coming round to our way of thinking, it's not that bad realy, once you recognise it's ALL been lies from day one from Kean and the owners Wenkys ( no its spelt how I like it) welcome aboard!! Lancs - pensioner

5:28pm Mon 9 Apr 12

eddyo says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO.
For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.
To drop our top scorer doesn't sound like a great idea.
*
Feed the Yak and he will score is true only if he is in the opposition box - nowhere else. Not left-back or at the half-way line.
*
Our biggest weakness is Olsson at left back: physically weak, AWOL and clueless. How many times does he let a cross come in? Almost always. He is never anywhere near his man when the oppo winger receives it. How often does Olsson pass up the line (instinctive to a full-back working with the man in front of him)? Almost never - unless it's his bro? Out-jumped in the air, weak in the tackle and he scored an own goal with his 'wrong foot'.
*
Lowe is another disappointment. Good work-rate and nil creativity. His shot against West Brom is 100% down to sh1t technique.
*
Olsson, Lowe and Pedersen - a player with no mobility whatsoever - are 3 passengers. Maybe Lowe can do 'a job', but the other 2 are weak links.
*
If Olsson does not stop Gerrard crossing in from deep on the right wing tomorrow we could get beat by 4 or 5.
*
Even Carroll might score if Hanley loses him the same way he did with journeymen Ridgewell and Wheater. Sadly, Hanley is slow in the head: the last to run towards the ball and too slow to use his strength to block the run.
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO. For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.[/p][/quote]To drop our top scorer doesn't sound like a great idea. * Feed the Yak and he will score is true only if he is in the opposition box - nowhere else. Not left-back or at the half-way line. * Our biggest weakness is Olsson at left back: physically weak, AWOL and clueless. How many times does he let a cross come in? Almost always. He is never anywhere near his man when the oppo winger receives it. How often does Olsson pass up the line (instinctive to a full-back working with the man in front of him)? Almost never - unless it's his bro? Out-jumped in the air, weak in the tackle and he scored an own goal with his 'wrong foot'. * Lowe is another disappointment. Good work-rate and nil creativity. His shot against West Brom is 100% down to sh1t technique. * Olsson, Lowe and Pedersen - a player with no mobility whatsoever - are 3 passengers. Maybe Lowe can do 'a job', but the other 2 are weak links. * If Olsson does not stop Gerrard crossing in from deep on the right wing tomorrow we could get beat by 4 or 5. * Even Carroll might score if Hanley loses him the same way he did with journeymen Ridgewell and Wheater. Sadly, Hanley is slow in the head: the last to run towards the ball and too slow to use his strength to block the run. eddyo

5:33pm Mon 9 Apr 12

stick to football says...

Its all about what happens in the future now - we need a break from somewhere but

S Kean is Manager itr is his team his signings and his results.If we are to go down it is his responsibility not the supporters

The fans have been supportive now it is time for the team to turn up and perform.

Interestingly a quote from Everton We had a fantastic January, credit to the chairman who managed to get four grade-A players in Landon Donovan, Stephen Pienaar, Darron Gibson and Nikica Jelevic, and the confidence has rubbed off us on us."

Stand up Venkys and leave now because yours is the ultimate decision that has left Rovers fighting for its existence whatever money has ghone into the coffers - you deserve nothing for your efforts - when will you next appear at Ewood -never ?
Its all about what happens in the future now - we need a break from somewhere but S Kean is Manager itr is his team his signings and his results.If we are to go down it is his responsibility not the supporters The fans have been supportive now it is time for the team to turn up and perform. Interestingly a quote from Everton We had a fantastic January, credit to the chairman who managed to get four grade-A players in Landon Donovan, Stephen Pienaar, Darron Gibson and Nikica Jelevic, and the confidence has rubbed off us on us." Stand up Venkys and leave now because yours is the ultimate decision that has left Rovers fighting for its existence whatever money has ghone into the coffers - you deserve nothing for your efforts - when will you next appear at Ewood -never ? stick to football

5:56pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Wenkys where are you, your "Baby's" crying, you say you care but where are you when your baby needs you, your pack of lies makes me sick, honourable people my backside, Roa your greasy ponytail says it all about you, but then it's big sister who is in charge isn't it, have some balls and get down to Ewood if you dare!
Wenkys where are you, your "Baby's" crying, you say you care but where are you when your baby needs you, your pack of lies makes me sick, honourable people my backside, Roa your greasy ponytail says it all about you, but then it's big sister who is in charge isn't it, have some balls and get down to Ewood if you dare! Lancs - pensioner

6:26pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Iiii1111 says...

eddyo wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO.
For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.
To drop our top scorer doesn't sound like a great idea.
*
Feed the Yak and he will score is true only if he is in the opposition box - nowhere else. Not left-back or at the half-way line.
*
Our biggest weakness is Olsson at left back: physically weak, AWOL and clueless. How many times does he let a cross come in? Almost always. He is never anywhere near his man when the oppo winger receives it. How often does Olsson pass up the line (instinctive to a full-back working with the man in front of him)? Almost never - unless it's his bro? Out-jumped in the air, weak in the tackle and he scored an own goal with his 'wrong foot'.
*
Lowe is another disappointment. Good work-rate and nil creativity. His shot against West Brom is 100% down to sh1t technique.
*
Olsson, Lowe and Pedersen - a player with no mobility whatsoever - are 3 passengers. Maybe Lowe can do 'a job', but the other 2 are weak links.
*
If Olsson does not stop Gerrard crossing in from deep on the right wing tomorrow we could get beat by 4 or 5.
*
Even Carroll might score if Hanley loses him the same way he did with journeymen Ridgewell and Wheater. Sadly, Hanley is slow in the head: the last to run towards the ball and too slow to use his strength to block the run.
Olsson should be in midfield never a full back I agree as i do about Pedersen. Lowe- the jury's out....Trouble is the Yak isn't getting fed so that makes him ineffective.
[quote][p][bold]eddyo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO. For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.[/p][/quote]To drop our top scorer doesn't sound like a great idea. * Feed the Yak and he will score is true only if he is in the opposition box - nowhere else. Not left-back or at the half-way line. * Our biggest weakness is Olsson at left back: physically weak, AWOL and clueless. How many times does he let a cross come in? Almost always. He is never anywhere near his man when the oppo winger receives it. How often does Olsson pass up the line (instinctive to a full-back working with the man in front of him)? Almost never - unless it's his bro? Out-jumped in the air, weak in the tackle and he scored an own goal with his 'wrong foot'. * Lowe is another disappointment. Good work-rate and nil creativity. His shot against West Brom is 100% down to sh1t technique. * Olsson, Lowe and Pedersen - a player with no mobility whatsoever - are 3 passengers. Maybe Lowe can do 'a job', but the other 2 are weak links. * If Olsson does not stop Gerrard crossing in from deep on the right wing tomorrow we could get beat by 4 or 5. * Even Carroll might score if Hanley loses him the same way he did with journeymen Ridgewell and Wheater. Sadly, Hanley is slow in the head: the last to run towards the ball and too slow to use his strength to block the run.[/p][/quote]Olsson should be in midfield never a full back I agree as i do about Pedersen. Lowe- the jury's out....Trouble is the Yak isn't getting fed so that makes him ineffective. Iiii1111

6:30pm Mon 9 Apr 12

BJS says...

Jansen_10 wrote:
I hope Steve Kean realises he is a disgrace. In essence he's a thief - he's certainly not earning his money.

How he is still in a job is completely beyond me. The football we're playing is the worst I've seen in 20 years (even including the Kidd era) and his comments suggesting that losing 3-0 to WBA isnt too bad because Bolton/Wigan/QPR lost is just embarrassing.

Steve Kean...the biggest joke in football.

Stop ruining my weekends!
The reason Kean is still in the job is because Venky's need him to do their bidding. Nothing to do with football otherwise we'd still have Allardyce or another proper manager. Who but the incumbent would put up with these owners?
[quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: I hope Steve Kean realises he is a disgrace. In essence he's a thief - he's certainly not earning his money. How he is still in a job is completely beyond me. The football we're playing is the worst I've seen in 20 years (even including the Kidd era) and his comments suggesting that losing 3-0 to WBA isnt too bad because Bolton/Wigan/QPR lost is just embarrassing. Steve Kean...the biggest joke in football. Stop ruining my weekends![/p][/quote]The reason Kean is still in the job is because Venky's need him to do their bidding. Nothing to do with football otherwise we'd still have Allardyce or another proper manager. Who but the incumbent would put up with these owners? BJS

6:33pm Mon 9 Apr 12

BJS says...

RoverInRotterdam wrote:
Kean,venkys &co you make me sick to the pit of my stomach. You really are just scum.how you've been allowed to bring our once proud and respected club down to the level it is now is shameful and proves just how dishonourable venkys,kean,anderson and co are.Surely you've all grown rich enough from the rape of our Club.Leave now,while we have at least some of our Club left standing.....R.T.I.D

.....
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]RoverInRotterdam[/bold] wrote: Kean,venkys &co you make me sick to the pit of my stomach. You really are just scum.how you've been allowed to bring our once proud and respected club down to the level it is now is shameful and proves just how dishonourable venkys,kean,anderson and co are.Surely you've all grown rich enough from the rape of our Club.Leave now,while we have at least some of our Club left standing.....R.T.I.D .....[/p][/quote]Well said! BJS

6:36pm Mon 9 Apr 12

BJS says...

BritishBulldog wrote:
Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved.

Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team.

As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold.

All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason.

You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.
Who is British Bulldog? Let me guess, JA?
[quote][p][bold]BritishBulldog[/bold] wrote: Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved. Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team. As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold. All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason. You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.[/p][/quote]Who is British Bulldog? Let me guess, JA? BJS

6:40pm Mon 9 Apr 12

merlinrabbit says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
eddyo wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO.
For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.
To drop our top scorer doesn't sound like a great idea.
*
Feed the Yak and he will score is true only if he is in the opposition box - nowhere else. Not left-back or at the half-way line.
*
Our biggest weakness is Olsson at left back: physically weak, AWOL and clueless. How many times does he let a cross come in? Almost always. He is never anywhere near his man when the oppo winger receives it. How often does Olsson pass up the line (instinctive to a full-back working with the man in front of him)? Almost never - unless it's his bro? Out-jumped in the air, weak in the tackle and he scored an own goal with his 'wrong foot'.
*
Lowe is another disappointment. Good work-rate and nil creativity. His shot against West Brom is 100% down to sh1t technique.
*
Olsson, Lowe and Pedersen - a player with no mobility whatsoever - are 3 passengers. Maybe Lowe can do 'a job', but the other 2 are weak links.
*
If Olsson does not stop Gerrard crossing in from deep on the right wing tomorrow we could get beat by 4 or 5.
*
Even Carroll might score if Hanley loses him the same way he did with journeymen Ridgewell and Wheater. Sadly, Hanley is slow in the head: the last to run towards the ball and too slow to use his strength to block the run.
Olsson should be in midfield never a full back I agree as i do about Pedersen. Lowe- the jury's out....Trouble is the Yak isn't getting fed so that makes him ineffective.
Pedersen is no worse than any of his team mates. He covers most ground and is involved most therefore his mistakes are greater with more ball contact and more apparent. He probably feels as short changed as Samba who didnt even turn out and the injured Nelsen at Spurs and Andrews but he is a nice guy so keeps his mouth shut. He gets the brunt of everybody's frustration so little wonder he looks de-motivated. He gets the steve kean treatment and no way is he in that category. Yakubu has run out of legs. He looks knackered playing in that set up. If Givet isnt in defence tomorrow there definately is something suspect.
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eddyo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO. For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.[/p][/quote]To drop our top scorer doesn't sound like a great idea. * Feed the Yak and he will score is true only if he is in the opposition box - nowhere else. Not left-back or at the half-way line. * Our biggest weakness is Olsson at left back: physically weak, AWOL and clueless. How many times does he let a cross come in? Almost always. He is never anywhere near his man when the oppo winger receives it. How often does Olsson pass up the line (instinctive to a full-back working with the man in front of him)? Almost never - unless it's his bro? Out-jumped in the air, weak in the tackle and he scored an own goal with his 'wrong foot'. * Lowe is another disappointment. Good work-rate and nil creativity. His shot against West Brom is 100% down to sh1t technique. * Olsson, Lowe and Pedersen - a player with no mobility whatsoever - are 3 passengers. Maybe Lowe can do 'a job', but the other 2 are weak links. * If Olsson does not stop Gerrard crossing in from deep on the right wing tomorrow we could get beat by 4 or 5. * Even Carroll might score if Hanley loses him the same way he did with journeymen Ridgewell and Wheater. Sadly, Hanley is slow in the head: the last to run towards the ball and too slow to use his strength to block the run.[/p][/quote]Olsson should be in midfield never a full back I agree as i do about Pedersen. Lowe- the jury's out....Trouble is the Yak isn't getting fed so that makes him ineffective.[/p][/quote]Pedersen is no worse than any of his team mates. He covers most ground and is involved most therefore his mistakes are greater with more ball contact and more apparent. He probably feels as short changed as Samba who didnt even turn out and the injured Nelsen at Spurs and Andrews but he is a nice guy so keeps his mouth shut. He gets the brunt of everybody's frustration so little wonder he looks de-motivated. He gets the steve kean treatment and no way is he in that category. Yakubu has run out of legs. He looks knackered playing in that set up. If Givet isnt in defence tomorrow there definately is something suspect. merlinrabbit

6:41pm Mon 9 Apr 12

merlinrabbit says...

Bluegoose wrote:
Rovers 0 scousers 3
I cant argue with you. Probably will be. Doubt we will win another game.
[quote][p][bold]Bluegoose[/bold] wrote: Rovers 0 scousers 3[/p][/quote]I cant argue with you. Probably will be. Doubt we will win another game. merlinrabbit

6:44pm Mon 9 Apr 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse.
Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.
What is it with you and your petty point scoring?

When Rovers fans were doubting the attributes and qualities that Andrews brought to the side he was being compared to the likes of Tugay and Savage.

To now assert that we would be better off with him in our side only serves to illustrate just how far we have sunk.

Notwithstanding your obvious fecal and anal fixations, you ought to refrain from subjecting yourself to the type of bilious and obscenity-laden flagellation to which, up until recently, you were subjecting anyone who so much as doubted Venkys' and Kean's abilities and motivation.

It is always difficult to swallow being proved wrong.

Cue obscenity-laden retort.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse. Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.[/p][/quote]What is it with you and your petty point scoring? When Rovers fans were doubting the attributes and qualities that Andrews brought to the side he was being compared to the likes of Tugay and Savage. To now assert that we would be better off with him in our side only serves to illustrate just how far we have sunk. Notwithstanding your obvious fecal and anal fixations, you ought to refrain from subjecting yourself to the type of bilious and obscenity-laden flagellation to which, up until recently, you were subjecting anyone who so much as doubted Venkys' and Kean's abilities and motivation. It is always difficult to swallow being proved wrong. Cue obscenity-laden retort. OnePostThenTheOther

7:04pm Mon 9 Apr 12

noddymcleod says...

Martin Olly is not a full back, he's an attacking midfielder - should have played Givet at LB with Martin Olly further forward.
Everyone knows that, so there really must be something in the rumour that players are picked, or not picked because of apperance money etc.
Keano and Venkys are conjoined twins, no Keano without Venkys and vice versa.
Please loyal fans, don't shred or ignore the season ticket renewal, send in back in the freepost envelope as I and others do, with a polite note saying "not renewing as long as venkys and Kean are in charge"
Martin Olly is not a full back, he's an attacking midfielder - should have played Givet at LB with Martin Olly further forward. Everyone knows that, so there really must be something in the rumour that players are picked, or not picked because of apperance money etc. Keano and Venkys are conjoined twins, no Keano without Venkys and vice versa. Please loyal fans, don't shred or ignore the season ticket renewal, send in back in the freepost envelope as I and others do, with a polite note saying "not renewing as long as venkys and Kean are in charge" noddymcleod

7:19pm Mon 9 Apr 12

alfa111 says...

We might get away with it in the long run!yep a classic keanochio comment,what sk really means is our destiny is not in our hands and in fact it never has been all season really, its in the hands of the other teams around us, its what they do that will decide our fate, so much for keans managment utter shyte.
We might get away with it in the long run!yep a classic keanochio comment,what sk really means is our destiny is not in our hands and in fact it never has been all season really, its in the hands of the other teams around us, its what they do that will decide our fate, so much for keans managment utter shyte. alfa111

7:56pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

French Rover wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
French Rover wrote:
hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed.

Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....
Morning FR

Sense of de ja vu here. Season last at WBA, which I attended, I witnessed Kalinic score twice then get sent off and in my opinion sealed his unwarranted exit from Ewood Park thus we go Saturday on a wing and a prayer with Keans quote, which startled me considering the magnitude and low and behold Modeste is sent off contributing zero !

I watched on KOI sports and boy we were poor. The performance's since Bolton have become abject to say the least. I said to a reply week last I fear for our safety should we lose Saturday. The manner of the defeat along with trouncing again is very, very concerning. Those players must be feeling it no end pal.

Nothing but 3 points tomorrow will suffice.

I'm done my friend after this season until Kean is shown the door and Venky show some mettle for our club.

Arte et labore
Bonjour Mr Runner....yes very poor indeed, a shambles even. I really don't know how SK can possibly lift these young lads up to get a crucial win against Liverpool..? But without three points from this game then it makes our task of staying up certainly improbable if not quite impossible. Still a few twists and turns yet but the games are running out very quickly now for all five teams.

Boltons so called 'easy run-in' seems to be getting harder for them with each passing game....

Wigan are playing some good football and were unlucky to lose at Chelsea but they cant keep that same level up till the end of the season - methinks they peaked too early..

Wolves are doomed and won now.

QPR may have been clear now if Cisse had not kept getting sent off - but they are still very much in the danger zone could go either way but just a feeling they may escape...

Rovers - well even if we lose against Liverpool tomorrow we still have Norwich and Wigan at home which 'could' get us six points and with the way things are going could just be enough for us to stay up too...

So Bolton, Wigan and Wolves to go down....

BTW RR whatever happens with our owners and manager I predict you will not be 'done' with the Rovers. You are infected to the same degree as me and many others with these darned blue and white bloodcells and it is a long much drawn-out illness my friend from which we may never recover....had mine for over 50yrs!
Hi FR, a most plausible scenario with your breakdown. Of course, while hope remains and in our hands, sort of speak then I hope upon hope we get out of it.

Massive row going on over the fan's view to abstaining and going on with all this crap abound !

I've reached the decision on not renewing simply down to not supporting that which is patently abject right across the board at this time. It just doesn't feel right to endorse this any longer.

Like a pendulum I have swung since the take over and now it's stopped at the point of my support as being a detriment to the club, but this in no way means I have abandoned our club. The lies are just to much to take and what the heck is going to be different next season with present circumstances ?

The buy out is the only way I can seriously see unless Venky are to do what I have in my mind ? it is the only thing they can do to show that the club is at the very heart of what they state ? Until then my support by way of attending is null and void.

I'm watching with great interest.

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed. Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....[/p][/quote]Morning FR Sense of de ja vu here. Season last at WBA, which I attended, I witnessed Kalinic score twice then get sent off and in my opinion sealed his unwarranted exit from Ewood Park thus we go Saturday on a wing and a prayer with Keans quote, which startled me considering the magnitude and low and behold Modeste is sent off contributing zero ! I watched on KOI sports and boy we were poor. The performance's since Bolton have become abject to say the least. I said to a reply week last I fear for our safety should we lose Saturday. The manner of the defeat along with trouncing again is very, very concerning. Those players must be feeling it no end pal. Nothing but 3 points tomorrow will suffice. I'm done my friend after this season until Kean is shown the door and Venky show some mettle for our club. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Bonjour Mr Runner....yes very poor indeed, a shambles even. I really don't know how SK can possibly lift these young lads up to get a crucial win against Liverpool..? But without three points from this game then it makes our task of staying up certainly improbable if not quite impossible. Still a few twists and turns yet but the games are running out very quickly now for all five teams. Boltons so called 'easy run-in' seems to be getting harder for them with each passing game.... Wigan are playing some good football and were unlucky to lose at Chelsea but they cant keep that same level up till the end of the season - methinks they peaked too early.. Wolves are doomed and won now. QPR may have been clear now if Cisse had not kept getting sent off - but they are still very much in the danger zone could go either way but just a feeling they may escape... Rovers - well even if we lose against Liverpool tomorrow we still have Norwich and Wigan at home which 'could' get us six points and with the way things are going could just be enough for us to stay up too... So Bolton, Wigan and Wolves to go down.... BTW RR whatever happens with our owners and manager I predict you will not be 'done' with the Rovers. You are infected to the same degree as me and many others with these darned blue and white bloodcells and it is a long much drawn-out illness my friend from which we may never recover....had mine for over 50yrs![/p][/quote]Hi FR, a most plausible scenario with your breakdown. Of course, while hope remains and in our hands, sort of speak then I hope upon hope we get out of it. Massive row going on over the fan's view to abstaining and going on with all this crap abound ! I've reached the decision on not renewing simply down to not supporting that which is patently abject right across the board at this time. It just doesn't feel right to endorse this any longer. Like a pendulum I have swung since the take over and now it's stopped at the point of my support as being a detriment to the club, but this in no way means I have abandoned our club. The lies are just to much to take and what the heck is going to be different next season with present circumstances ? The buy out is the only way I can seriously see unless Venky are to do what I have in my mind ? it is the only thing they can do to show that the club is at the very heart of what they state ? Until then my support by way of attending is null and void. I'm watching with great interest. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

8:30pm Mon 9 Apr 12

hasslem hasslem says...

the propaganda that our beloved leader comes out with is reminiscent of the garbage that comes out of north korea.
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the latest classic is that we controlled the game for a 17-18 minute period. clue to management stevie - football games last 90+ minutes - what do you think it was...a game of 5-a-side? this tripe is from someone that the andersen controlled media think has behaved with great dignity and should be manager of the year.
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next kean jong il will be telling us that the harvest levels for wheat and rice are at record levels and the tractor factories have reached their annual production quotas in the first 4 months of the year.
the propaganda that our beloved leader comes out with is reminiscent of the garbage that comes out of north korea. . the latest classic is that we controlled the game for a 17-18 minute period. clue to management stevie - football games last 90+ minutes - what do you think it was...a game of 5-a-side? this tripe is from someone that the andersen controlled media think has behaved with great dignity and should be manager of the year. . next kean jong il will be telling us that the harvest levels for wheat and rice are at record levels and the tractor factories have reached their annual production quotas in the first 4 months of the year. hasslem hasslem

8:31pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Stone Island. says...

BJS wrote:
BritishBulldog wrote:
Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved.

Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team.

As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold.

All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason.

You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.
Who is British Bulldog? Let me guess, JA?
He certainly talks a lot of bull.
[quote][p][bold]BJS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BritishBulldog[/bold] wrote: Hey don't worry guys, as soon as the Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust takes over the club, all these problems will be solved. Just like the good old Walkers' Trust era, there will be plenty of money to buy top quality players, all sale money will be reinvested in the club and we will head hunt none other than Sir Alex (I know it sounds implausible but you know, money talks and we would have plenty of that) to manage the team. As 'communication' will be key, as it happens with all other major PL clubs now, there will be a online poll on all fans sites each time to decide on which player to be bought and which one if needed to be sold. All player contracts will be available online so none of this confusion about who is not playing and for what reason. You might be wondering now as the initial capital we are raising (all 25 million of it), will easily cover the price of the club and the purchase price of the top PL players (ah! there will be none of this Scottish league or rubbish foreign players either) how we will pay the salaries of the players? Don't worry, the massive 6 million we will raise by all 25,000 of us buying a season ticket (as there will be no excuse not to buy it then, would there) will more than pay for the wages of all these top players (I am thinking of the likes of Messi, Kaka and Rooney just like in the Walker Trust times not the rubbish we have under the current regime) for the full year.[/p][/quote]Who is British Bulldog? Let me guess, JA?[/p][/quote]He certainly talks a lot of bull. Stone Island.

10:01pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse.
Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.
What is it with you and your petty point scoring?

When Rovers fans were doubting the attributes and qualities that Andrews brought to the side he was being compared to the likes of Tugay and Savage.

To now assert that we would be better off with him in our side only serves to illustrate just how far we have sunk.

Notwithstanding your obvious fecal and anal fixations, you ought to refrain from subjecting yourself to the type of bilious and obscenity-laden flagellation to which, up until recently, you were subjecting anyone who so much as doubted Venkys' and Kean's abilities and motivation.

It is always difficult to swallow being proved wrong.

Cue obscenity-laden retort.
Yup thats the problem when I was here saying how good Andrews was and got slated for it, I was actually comparing him to Lowe, Dunn and Pedersen. The guy has an engine that we lack. I was comparing him to the squad members we had at our disposal as Tugay and Savage were a long gone pipe dream. I said it was wrong to get rid of Andrews and i got slated for it.
Now then regarding Kean and Venkies. Kean has been out of my list for months, Venkies on the other hand, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it, just ask yourself about Mr Andrews.
And the fact you like back door action or not has nothing to do with me or football, just keep enjoying it if thats what floats your boat.
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse. Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.[/p][/quote]What is it with you and your petty point scoring? When Rovers fans were doubting the attributes and qualities that Andrews brought to the side he was being compared to the likes of Tugay and Savage. To now assert that we would be better off with him in our side only serves to illustrate just how far we have sunk. Notwithstanding your obvious fecal and anal fixations, you ought to refrain from subjecting yourself to the type of bilious and obscenity-laden flagellation to which, up until recently, you were subjecting anyone who so much as doubted Venkys' and Kean's abilities and motivation. It is always difficult to swallow being proved wrong. Cue obscenity-laden retort.[/p][/quote]Yup thats the problem when I was here saying how good Andrews was and got slated for it, I was actually comparing him to Lowe, Dunn and Pedersen. The guy has an engine that we lack. I was comparing him to the squad members we had at our disposal as Tugay and Savage were a long gone pipe dream. I said it was wrong to get rid of Andrews and i got slated for it. Now then regarding Kean and Venkies. Kean has been out of my list for months, Venkies on the other hand, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it, just ask yourself about Mr Andrews. And the fact you like back door action or not has nothing to do with me or football, just keep enjoying it if thats what floats your boat. Keep Darwen Green

10:42pm Mon 9 Apr 12

devo12 says...

don't just "not buy a season ticket" SEND THE PACK BACK to Mr Hunt telling him why you won't renew i.e Kean and Venkys then they will know exactly why sales are way down.
don't just "not buy a season ticket" SEND THE PACK BACK to Mr Hunt telling him why you won't renew i.e Kean and Venkys then they will know exactly why sales are way down. devo12

11:20pm Mon 9 Apr 12

BlueSkies says...

I'm renewing my ST. Why? It's gonna cost me £145 next time cos I'll officially be an owd codger so get it cheap cheap!
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So, convince me not to buy, whatever League we are in and whoever are our owners. I suspect that a lot of posters on here are probably in the same age group as myself and could easily afford to go.
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£145 is peanuts in the grand scale of things, absolute peanuts
I'm renewing my ST. Why? It's gonna cost me £145 next time cos I'll officially be an owd codger so get it cheap cheap! . So, convince me not to buy, whatever League we are in and whoever are our owners. I suspect that a lot of posters on here are probably in the same age group as myself and could easily afford to go. . £145 is peanuts in the grand scale of things, absolute peanuts BlueSkies

12:29am Tue 10 Apr 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse.
Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.
What is it with you and your petty point scoring?

When Rovers fans were doubting the attributes and qualities that Andrews brought to the side he was being compared to the likes of Tugay and Savage.

To now assert that we would be better off with him in our side only serves to illustrate just how far we have sunk.

Notwithstanding your obvious fecal and anal fixations, you ought to refrain from subjecting yourself to the type of bilious and obscenity-laden flagellation to which, up until recently, you were subjecting anyone who so much as doubted Venkys' and Kean's abilities and motivation.

It is always difficult to swallow being proved wrong.

Cue obscenity-laden retort.
Yup thats the problem when I was here saying how good Andrews was and got slated for it, I was actually comparing him to Lowe, Dunn and Pedersen. The guy has an engine that we lack. I was comparing him to the squad members we had at our disposal as Tugay and Savage were a long gone pipe dream. I said it was wrong to get rid of Andrews and i got slated for it.
Now then regarding Kean and Venkies. Kean has been out of my list for months, Venkies on the other hand, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it, just ask yourself about Mr Andrews.
And the fact you like back door action or not has nothing to do with me or football, just keep enjoying it if thats what floats your boat.
Andrews was the former Milton Keynes lieutenant brought to the club by Ince to fill the void left by the departure of Savage six months earlier. He was in the same squad as Tugay for a full season. In comparison to those two at that time he was a footballing midget.

At Ipswich he retrieved his reputation at a level that he could perform at. To then compare him to our current midfield which has operated without a combatative ball winning midfielder since the Jones boys were let go is hardly a ringing endorsement of Andrews' limited repertoire.

Hodgson will not renew his contract if West Brom have any ambitions to climb into the top half of the table.

Those of us who have had professional experience of working with our Indian 'colleagues' will be less then surprised with our current predicament. Anybody that tries to make a case for Kean as a Premiership manager doesn't understand football nor has the interests of BRFC at heart.

As predicted you just couldn't help yourself with the innuendo. Tedious dullard.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse. Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.[/p][/quote]What is it with you and your petty point scoring? When Rovers fans were doubting the attributes and qualities that Andrews brought to the side he was being compared to the likes of Tugay and Savage. To now assert that we would be better off with him in our side only serves to illustrate just how far we have sunk. Notwithstanding your obvious fecal and anal fixations, you ought to refrain from subjecting yourself to the type of bilious and obscenity-laden flagellation to which, up until recently, you were subjecting anyone who so much as doubted Venkys' and Kean's abilities and motivation. It is always difficult to swallow being proved wrong. Cue obscenity-laden retort.[/p][/quote]Yup thats the problem when I was here saying how good Andrews was and got slated for it, I was actually comparing him to Lowe, Dunn and Pedersen. The guy has an engine that we lack. I was comparing him to the squad members we had at our disposal as Tugay and Savage were a long gone pipe dream. I said it was wrong to get rid of Andrews and i got slated for it. Now then regarding Kean and Venkies. Kean has been out of my list for months, Venkies on the other hand, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it, just ask yourself about Mr Andrews. And the fact you like back door action or not has nothing to do with me or football, just keep enjoying it if thats what floats your boat.[/p][/quote]Andrews was the former Milton Keynes lieutenant brought to the club by Ince to fill the void left by the departure of Savage six months earlier. He was in the same squad as Tugay for a full season. In comparison to those two at that time he was a footballing midget. At Ipswich he retrieved his reputation at a level that he could perform at. To then compare him to our current midfield which has operated without a combatative ball winning midfielder since the Jones boys were let go is hardly a ringing endorsement of Andrews' limited repertoire. Hodgson will not renew his contract if West Brom have any ambitions to climb into the top half of the table. Those of us who have had professional experience of working with our Indian 'colleagues' will be less then surprised with our current predicament. Anybody that tries to make a case for Kean as a Premiership manager doesn't understand football nor has the interests of BRFC at heart. As predicted you just couldn't help yourself with the innuendo. Tedious dullard. OnePostThenTheOther

8:15am Tue 10 Apr 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
French Rover wrote:
hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed.

Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....
Morning FR

Sense of de ja vu here. Season last at WBA, which I attended, I witnessed Kalinic score twice then get sent off and in my opinion sealed his unwarranted exit from Ewood Park thus we go Saturday on a wing and a prayer with Keans quote, which startled me considering the magnitude and low and behold Modeste is sent off contributing zero !

I watched on KOI sports and boy we were poor. The performance's since Bolton have become abject to say the least. I said to a reply week last I fear for our safety should we lose Saturday. The manner of the defeat along with trouncing again is very, very concerning. Those players must be feeling it no end pal.

Nothing but 3 points tomorrow will suffice.

I'm done my friend after this season until Kean is shown the door and Venky show some mettle for our club.

Arte et labore
Bonjour Mr Runner....yes very poor indeed, a shambles even. I really don't know how SK can possibly lift these young lads up to get a crucial win against Liverpool..? But without three points from this game then it makes our task of staying up certainly improbable if not quite impossible. Still a few twists and turns yet but the games are running out very quickly now for all five teams.

Boltons so called 'easy run-in' seems to be getting harder for them with each passing game....

Wigan are playing some good football and were unlucky to lose at Chelsea but they cant keep that same level up till the end of the season - methinks they peaked too early..

Wolves are doomed and won now.

QPR may have been clear now if Cisse had not kept getting sent off - but they are still very much in the danger zone could go either way but just a feeling they may escape...

Rovers - well even if we lose against Liverpool tomorrow we still have Norwich and Wigan at home which 'could' get us six points and with the way things are going could just be enough for us to stay up too...

So Bolton, Wigan and Wolves to go down....

BTW RR whatever happens with our owners and manager I predict you will not be 'done' with the Rovers. You are infected to the same degree as me and many others with these darned blue and white bloodcells and it is a long much drawn-out illness my friend from which we may never recover....had mine for over 50yrs!
Hi FR, a most plausible scenario with your breakdown. Of course, while hope remains and in our hands, sort of speak then I hope upon hope we get out of it.

Massive row going on over the fan's view to abstaining and going on with all this crap abound !

I've reached the decision on not renewing simply down to not supporting that which is patently abject right across the board at this time. It just doesn't feel right to endorse this any longer.

Like a pendulum I have swung since the take over and now it's stopped at the point of my support as being a detriment to the club, but this in no way means I have abandoned our club. The lies are just to much to take and what the heck is going to be different next season with present circumstances ?

The buy out is the only way I can seriously see unless Venky are to do what I have in my mind ? it is the only thing they can do to show that the club is at the very heart of what they state ? Until then my support by way of attending is null and void.

I'm watching with great interest.

Arte et labore
Lad said he wanted to go on tonight so I have relented - when I asked why he said might be last chance to see Kenny and Liverpool on Ewood! Dalglish is more likely to be sung from the home areas than Keano tonight!
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The press are on Kenny's back for this one so its not good news for us - neither is the way Norwich played at Spurs so that banker 3 points is looking tough now - Help!
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With you though Woody if no change = Biggest drop off of ST's in Rovers history? I would buy even in the championship if Kean is gone and the owners invest. But can't support this scenario at present and don't know many fans who will. The action group are quiet though and this is their big chance to have a voice?
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33rd.........
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: hate everything this man says...its all just rubbish. The point he made that we probably have gotten away with the defeat in the sense that we didn't fall further down into the mire.....just shows us another of his miserable excuses! As gaining even one point would have been oh so valuable at west brom in light of the other results. A great opportunity missed. Now we absolutely NEED to BEAT the Scousers tomorrow. A draw will NOT be good enough. Kean are you listening.....[/p][/quote]Morning FR Sense of de ja vu here. Season last at WBA, which I attended, I witnessed Kalinic score twice then get sent off and in my opinion sealed his unwarranted exit from Ewood Park thus we go Saturday on a wing and a prayer with Keans quote, which startled me considering the magnitude and low and behold Modeste is sent off contributing zero ! I watched on KOI sports and boy we were poor. The performance's since Bolton have become abject to say the least. I said to a reply week last I fear for our safety should we lose Saturday. The manner of the defeat along with trouncing again is very, very concerning. Those players must be feeling it no end pal. Nothing but 3 points tomorrow will suffice. I'm done my friend after this season until Kean is shown the door and Venky show some mettle for our club. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Bonjour Mr Runner....yes very poor indeed, a shambles even. I really don't know how SK can possibly lift these young lads up to get a crucial win against Liverpool..? But without three points from this game then it makes our task of staying up certainly improbable if not quite impossible. Still a few twists and turns yet but the games are running out very quickly now for all five teams. Boltons so called 'easy run-in' seems to be getting harder for them with each passing game.... Wigan are playing some good football and were unlucky to lose at Chelsea but they cant keep that same level up till the end of the season - methinks they peaked too early.. Wolves are doomed and won now. QPR may have been clear now if Cisse had not kept getting sent off - but they are still very much in the danger zone could go either way but just a feeling they may escape... Rovers - well even if we lose against Liverpool tomorrow we still have Norwich and Wigan at home which 'could' get us six points and with the way things are going could just be enough for us to stay up too... So Bolton, Wigan and Wolves to go down.... BTW RR whatever happens with our owners and manager I predict you will not be 'done' with the Rovers. You are infected to the same degree as me and many others with these darned blue and white bloodcells and it is a long much drawn-out illness my friend from which we may never recover....had mine for over 50yrs![/p][/quote]Hi FR, a most plausible scenario with your breakdown. Of course, while hope remains and in our hands, sort of speak then I hope upon hope we get out of it. Massive row going on over the fan's view to abstaining and going on with all this crap abound ! I've reached the decision on not renewing simply down to not supporting that which is patently abject right across the board at this time. It just doesn't feel right to endorse this any longer. Like a pendulum I have swung since the take over and now it's stopped at the point of my support as being a detriment to the club, but this in no way means I have abandoned our club. The lies are just to much to take and what the heck is going to be different next season with present circumstances ? The buy out is the only way I can seriously see unless Venky are to do what I have in my mind ? it is the only thing they can do to show that the club is at the very heart of what they state ? Until then my support by way of attending is null and void. I'm watching with great interest. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Lad said he wanted to go on tonight so I have relented - when I asked why he said might be last chance to see Kenny and Liverpool on Ewood! Dalglish is more likely to be sung from the home areas than Keano tonight! . The press are on Kenny's back for this one so its not good news for us - neither is the way Norwich played at Spurs so that banker 3 points is looking tough now - Help! . With you though Woody if no change = Biggest drop off of ST's in Rovers history? I would buy even in the championship if Kean is gone and the owners invest. But can't support this scenario at present and don't know many fans who will. The action group are quiet though and this is their big chance to have a voice? . 33rd......... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

8:28am Tue 10 Apr 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games.
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Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again.
.
33rd.........
If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games. . Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again. . 33rd......... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

9:30am Tue 10 Apr 12

Justjes says...

Please let me have a 140 second chat with this toss of a lier in a closed locked room
Please let me have a 140 second chat with this toss of a lier in a closed locked room Justjes

9:50am Tue 10 Apr 12

kiwipom73 says...

No way will the Venky,s make any changes until after the season as closed.
Even then, I doubt very much that with the Venky,s arrogance and ignorance of the game shown throughout their time as "Owners" will see any "real" changes "real" for next season.
The Venky,s must be getting their money,s worth on their egoistical magic carpet ride into the unknown.
In the meantime Kean & Anderson are laughing all the way the the Bank each month.
This leaves the fans with TWO options only, to either....
1) suffer in silence & take the Conman Kean and Venky Vultures for another season
2) to NOT buy your season ticket unless there are real changes (compared to the continued bulls..t & jellybeans they have feed us since they came on-board).
In the meantime we can only support the team 100% until the outcome is certain...then the decision is yours !!!
Come on U Blues...
No way will the Venky,s make any changes until after the season as closed. Even then, I doubt very much that with the Venky,s arrogance and ignorance of the game shown throughout their time as "Owners" will see any "real" changes "real" for next season. The Venky,s must be getting their money,s worth on their egoistical magic carpet ride into the unknown. In the meantime Kean & Anderson are laughing all the way the the Bank each month. This leaves the fans with TWO options only, to either.... 1) suffer in silence & take the Conman Kean and Venky Vultures for another season 2) to NOT buy your season ticket unless there are real changes (compared to the continued bulls..t & jellybeans they have feed us since they came on-board). In the meantime we can only support the team 100% until the outcome is certain...then the decision is yours !!! Come on U Blues... kiwipom73

10:01am Tue 10 Apr 12

givet82 says...

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games.
.
Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again.
.
33rd.........
never gunna happen mate,,you think venky's want people who will stand up to them??think we will draw tonight and stay up
[quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games. . Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again. . 33rd.........[/p][/quote]never gunna happen mate,,you think venky's want people who will stand up to them??think we will draw tonight and stay up givet82

10:01am Tue 10 Apr 12

givet82 says...

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games.
.
Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again.
.
33rd.........
never gunna happen mate,,you think venky's want people who will stand up to them??think we will draw tonight and stay up
[quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games. . Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again. . 33rd.........[/p][/quote]never gunna happen mate,,you think venky's want people who will stand up to them??think we will draw tonight and stay up givet82

10:01am Tue 10 Apr 12

givet82 says...

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games.
.
Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again.
.
33rd.........
never gunna happen mate,,you think venky's want people who will stand up to them??think we will draw tonight and stay up
[quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games. . Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again. . 33rd.........[/p][/quote]never gunna happen mate,,you think venky's want people who will stand up to them??think we will draw tonight and stay up givet82

10:03am Tue 10 Apr 12

bring back the good old days says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO.
For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.
Regards Yak, way way back a Portsmouth guy (I think) said beware he always starts like an house on fire then dives hence his release from Everton.
Before that themselves.
This appears to be the cas ehere also (possibly).
However we have no one to replace him.
We could have lumped CS up there as a last ditch, but he's over in salt mine land now.
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: What’s happened since the two back to back wins! I honestly thought we had turn the corner, as at the time the previous 10 games had us 10th on current form. The team was starting to show signs of self-belief, is now gone out the window. Now without doubt the team looks a relegation certainty and it pains me to admit that. Wigan looks capable of getting out of trouble leaving Wolves down along with any two from three IMO. For some reason Keen doesn’t play Formica now, when he did play he gave the team movement and pace allowing Hoilett to use the space. I know others will strongly disagree with me but I’d drop the Yak, he’s slow, no movement, loses the possession loads, but more importantly isn’t scoring. The team needs more movement in the midfield/attacking part of the field which will hopefully lessen the load on the defence, problem is the midfield is weak which is putting extra pressure on the defence also not allowing any creativity for attacks. Basically the squad of players is poo, I know most blame Kean, the restrictions’ being placed on the team by Venkeys doesn’t help.[/p][/quote]Regards Yak, way way back a Portsmouth guy (I think) said beware he always starts like an house on fire then dives hence his release from Everton. Before that themselves. This appears to be the cas ehere also (possibly). However we have no one to replace him. We could have lumped CS up there as a last ditch, but he's over in salt mine land now. bring back the good old days

1:39pm Tue 10 Apr 12

makaveli96 says...

Can we take banners tonight or have our human rights once again been removed?
Can we take banners tonight or have our human rights once again been removed? makaveli96

3:13pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse.
Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.
What is it with you and your petty point scoring?

When Rovers fans were doubting the attributes and qualities that Andrews brought to the side he was being compared to the likes of Tugay and Savage.

To now assert that we would be better off with him in our side only serves to illustrate just how far we have sunk.

Notwithstanding your obvious fecal and anal fixations, you ought to refrain from subjecting yourself to the type of bilious and obscenity-laden flagellation to which, up until recently, you were subjecting anyone who so much as doubted Venkys' and Kean's abilities and motivation.

It is always difficult to swallow being proved wrong.

Cue obscenity-laden retort.
Yup thats the problem when I was here saying how good Andrews was and got slated for it, I was actually comparing him to Lowe, Dunn and Pedersen. The guy has an engine that we lack. I was comparing him to the squad members we had at our disposal as Tugay and Savage were a long gone pipe dream. I said it was wrong to get rid of Andrews and i got slated for it.
Now then regarding Kean and Venkies. Kean has been out of my list for months, Venkies on the other hand, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it, just ask yourself about Mr Andrews.
And the fact you like back door action or not has nothing to do with me or football, just keep enjoying it if thats what floats your boat.
Andrews was the former Milton Keynes lieutenant brought to the club by Ince to fill the void left by the departure of Savage six months earlier. He was in the same squad as Tugay for a full season. In comparison to those two at that time he was a footballing midget.

At Ipswich he retrieved his reputation at a level that he could perform at. To then compare him to our current midfield which has operated without a combatative ball winning midfielder since the Jones boys were let go is hardly a ringing endorsement of Andrews' limited repertoire.

Hodgson will not renew his contract if West Brom have any ambitions to climb into the top half of the table.

Those of us who have had professional experience of working with our Indian 'colleagues' will be less then surprised with our current predicament. Anybody that tries to make a case for Kean as a Premiership manager doesn't understand football nor has the interests of BRFC at heart.

As predicted you just couldn't help yourself with the innuendo. Tedious dullard.
Nope fraid your wrong there Andrews was a very succesful player at wolves and an irish international. Just because he came from MK, knobenders like yourself never gave him a chance. He now resides in safety half way up the league, laughing at your stupidity. Looks like he was right and he can play at this level. I was wrong regarding Kean and Venkies and I admit that. But
no-one likes someone who cannot admit they were wrong, that'd be you. You are wrong, always have been, always will be. Andrews is a good player and you are an idiot.
I also predict you will continually bleat about how right you were when we are playing in the championship when a player like andrews could have saved your sorry arse. Sir you are so correct it must be hurting to the point of vomiting by now. Who is trying to make a case for Kean? Please point them out.
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Wonder what the ones who said Andrews is sh1t think now he's come back and drubbed your arse. Sorry Keanochio but I am one of the more positive on here and I think we're going down, I've heard enough lies, Nelson will have to retire through injury. Samba will stay, Hoilett will sign in the next 24 hours, Not guilty Mi'lord. One saving grace is when we go down your TV bumchums won't be able to keep you from the sh1t you deserve.[/p][/quote]What is it with you and your petty point scoring? When Rovers fans were doubting the attributes and qualities that Andrews brought to the side he was being compared to the likes of Tugay and Savage. To now assert that we would be better off with him in our side only serves to illustrate just how far we have sunk. Notwithstanding your obvious fecal and anal fixations, you ought to refrain from subjecting yourself to the type of bilious and obscenity-laden flagellation to which, up until recently, you were subjecting anyone who so much as doubted Venkys' and Kean's abilities and motivation. It is always difficult to swallow being proved wrong. Cue obscenity-laden retort.[/p][/quote]Yup thats the problem when I was here saying how good Andrews was and got slated for it, I was actually comparing him to Lowe, Dunn and Pedersen. The guy has an engine that we lack. I was comparing him to the squad members we had at our disposal as Tugay and Savage were a long gone pipe dream. I said it was wrong to get rid of Andrews and i got slated for it. Now then regarding Kean and Venkies. Kean has been out of my list for months, Venkies on the other hand, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it, just ask yourself about Mr Andrews. And the fact you like back door action or not has nothing to do with me or football, just keep enjoying it if thats what floats your boat.[/p][/quote]Andrews was the former Milton Keynes lieutenant brought to the club by Ince to fill the void left by the departure of Savage six months earlier. He was in the same squad as Tugay for a full season. In comparison to those two at that time he was a footballing midget. At Ipswich he retrieved his reputation at a level that he could perform at. To then compare him to our current midfield which has operated without a combatative ball winning midfielder since the Jones boys were let go is hardly a ringing endorsement of Andrews' limited repertoire. Hodgson will not renew his contract if West Brom have any ambitions to climb into the top half of the table. Those of us who have had professional experience of working with our Indian 'colleagues' will be less then surprised with our current predicament. Anybody that tries to make a case for Kean as a Premiership manager doesn't understand football nor has the interests of BRFC at heart. As predicted you just couldn't help yourself with the innuendo. Tedious dullard.[/p][/quote]Nope fraid your wrong there Andrews was a very succesful player at wolves and an irish international. Just because he came from MK, knobenders like yourself never gave him a chance. He now resides in safety half way up the league, laughing at your stupidity. Looks like he was right and he can play at this level. I was wrong regarding Kean and Venkies and I admit that. But no-one likes someone who cannot admit they were wrong, that'd be you. You are wrong, always have been, always will be. Andrews is a good player and you are an idiot. I also predict you will continually bleat about how right you were when we are playing in the championship when a player like andrews could have saved your sorry arse. Sir you are so correct it must be hurting to the point of vomiting by now. Who is trying to make a case for Kean? Please point them out. Keep Darwen Green

5:26pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Tuo Neak says...

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games.
.
Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again.
.
33rd.........
Thats way too sensible for anyone at Ewood nowadays! That might give us a chance of survival.

Any chance of the LT printing all Keans lies/quotes on the paper when the Top 10 finish is impossible?
[quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: If we lose tonight them I say appoint Faz with Col Hendry no2 and Tony Parkes as advisor for last 5 games. . Kean Out must echo around Ewood tonight if we lose again. . 33rd.........[/p][/quote]Thats way too sensible for anyone at Ewood nowadays! That might give us a chance of survival. Any chance of the LT printing all Keans lies/quotes on the paper when the Top 10 finish is impossible? Tuo Neak

10:20am Thu 12 Apr 12

Charwalla says...

Kean: We may just get a top ten finish

Kean: We may just get away with Albion loss

Next Kean Quotes:

Kean: We may just get away with Liverpool loss

Kean: We may just get away with nobody noticing we are about to be relegated.

You cant beat Keans Quotes
Kean: We may just get a top ten finish Kean: We may just get away with Albion loss Next Kean Quotes: Kean: We may just get away with Liverpool loss Kean: We may just get away with nobody noticing we are about to be relegated. You cant beat Keans Quotes Charwalla

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