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FULL-TIME: Tottenham Hotspur 3 Blackburn Rovers 1


A ROMAN Pavlyuchenko brace gave Tottenham a 3-1 win over Blackburn Rovers at White Hart Lane this afternoon.

The striker struck twice in the second half, to add to Jermain Defoe's first half effort, sandwiched between Chris Samba's header.

Rovers face an anxious wait over the fitness of Paul Robinson as well after he was carried off in the first half with a calf injury and replaced by Jason Brown.

Roman Pavlyuchenko doubled Tottenham's lead on 55 minutes, after the visitors had started the half the brighter of the two sides.

The striker's shot from 18 yards went under substitute keeper Jason Brown and into the back of the net to effectively seal the win for the hosts.

Gareth Bale thought he had won his side a penalty on 67, after tumbling under Michel Salgado's challenge, although replays indicate there was no contact.

Chris Samba's towering header on 80 minutes though gave the visitors hope as he powered home Morten Gamst Pedersen's looping corner from the right.

That hope was killed just five minutes later though as Pavlyuchenko grabbed his second of the game, tapping home Bale's lower cross from close range.

Nikola Kalinic then had a brilliant volleyed goal disallowed for handball, even though it was him that had been shoved by Dawson.

Jermain Defoe had prodded home from close range after Niko Kranjcar's left wing corner was flicked on by Vedran Corluka on 45 minutes to give Spurs the half time lead.

Rovers could count themselves unfortunate to have behind though with David Dunn denied a blatant penalty and Samba almost heading them ahead.

Comments(74)

Morst says...
3:01pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Very poor indeed.
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Andy Gray - Blackburn are just hoping for scraps - you can see why their srikers don't score many goals.
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Hoodle - Spurs never got out of 3rd gear and won with comfort. Though Kalinic could become a real player.
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I agree with both comments - Kalinic needs support and to form a partnership with a second striker and we could be a real threat to teams (and entertain!). So sad to see us play like this.
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Salgado's legs have gone at this level
- end of debate.
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31st........

ewoodpark says...
3:08pm Sat 13 Mar 10

well big fat bast*rd, why again wait until we are 2 goals down with 20 mins to go to put another striker on, we had more chances in the last 20 mins than we did all game but NO big fat sam knows best, lets wait until we are dead and buried before he puts two up front, a poor game by us and the ref.

glp says...
3:27pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Our defence is pants, none of them know how to mark the opposition

Alex_Hill says...
3:40pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Morst wrote:
Very poor indeed.
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Andy Gray - Blackburn are just hoping for scraps - you can see why their srikers don't score many goals.
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Hoodle - Spurs never got out of 3rd gear and won with comfort. Though Kalinic could become a real player.
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I agree with both comments - Kalinic needs support and to form a partnership with a second striker and we could be a real threat to teams (and entertain!). So sad to see us play like this.
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Salgado's legs have gone at this level
- end of debate.
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31st........
Very poor indeed!?!?

I'm sorry but I thought played Rovers alright, aside from two horrendous schoolboy mistakes from Brown and Chimbonda... You forget Spurs are 4th in the league so it's unlikely they were ever going to roll over and let us win... Think it's unfair to blame to manager for this one... I'd be more concerned about Robinson's injury!

On the plus side thought there we're glimpses of a potential partnership between Franco and Niko..

Salgado is past it, but we've know that for a while...

Think everyone needs to be stop being so negative and put it into perspective... Could be worse could be the Dingles or Liverpool ;)

jack01 says...
3:40pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Here we go, the moaners appear as soon as they spot an opportunity. Bet you've been waiting to have a good go at allardyce for weeks now but haven't had the chance.
And as for Hoddle & Gray's comments, when have they ever been kind to rovers? They're the glory glory tottenham hotspur brigade, don't pay any attention to what them idiots say.

moggy669 says...
3:42pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Bring on the basturk!
Unlucky rovers, tried to play some nice football today but unfortunately no end product.
A dickov style striker along side kaly wouldnt go amiss.
Cracking goal by kaly wrongly disallowed, what a shocker webb had.
Onwards and upwards, a work in progress....

Greek Rover says...
3:47pm Sat 13 Mar 10

A totally inept performance by Rovers. What happened to the team that gave Liverpool such a run for their money? Dreadful defending, average midfield & ineffective strikers but I give Kalinic credit for a hard-working performance again. He looks like he could be the "real deal" - what a shame the ref disallowed his late "goal" for hand-ball; he really stuck it away well on the turn. Some tough matches coming up and a BIG improvement needed.

ewoodpark says...
3:57pm Sat 13 Mar 10

jack01 wrote:
Here we go, the moaners appear as soon as they spot an opportunity. Bet you've been waiting to have a good go at allardyce for weeks now but haven't had the chance. And as for Hoddle & Gray's comments, when have they ever been kind to rovers? They're the glory glory tottenham hotspur brigade, don't pay any attention to what them idiots say.
jack01, yes im having a moan, i pay my money and so have the right, but tell me this did we look like scoring with one up front?, the answer is no apart from a couple of half chances that didnt even trouble the stopper then we had nowt, but as soon as BFS put two up front the game opened up for us, but BFS cant see that, our defence is not up to scratch so the midfielders have having to drop back leaving one player up front against two of three defenders and what do we do?, hoof it up to a lone striker, sorry mate BFS is to blame, and i'll have a moan when i feel i need to.

bertiebee1 says...
4:01pm Sat 13 Mar 10

glp wrote:
Our defence is pants, none of them know how to mark the opposition
glp, i would'nt say that, our defence are far worse than yours. Our defenders, i wont names names like to set the opposition up to score goals, when there was'nt really any threat from the opposition.

I really thought Rovers were going to get something at Spurs today seems like it went a bit pear shaped alot like our season. See you on the 28th. UTC

ewoodpark says...
4:09pm Sat 13 Mar 10

bertiebee1 wrote:
glp wrote: Our defence is pants, none of them know how to mark the opposition
glp, i would'nt say that, our defence are far worse than yours. Our defenders, i wont names names like to set the opposition up to score goals, when there was'nt really any threat from the opposition. I really thought Rovers were going to get something at Spurs today seems like it went a bit pear shaped alot like our season. See you on the 28th. UTC
nice of you to say bertie, see you on the 28th, you'll know who we are, we're the team with one up front lol

ewoodpark says...
4:21pm Sat 13 Mar 10

whats that sam?, we played good but defended rubbish, that about right
what about only having one chance on target before you put two up front?

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Celtic Rover says...
4:31pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Come on Allardyce, your just not giving the team the opportunity to give us a fighting chance of picking up anymore away points ,going with 4-5-1.Kalinic is a quality forward who needs to play off another forward to spark the team back to life.We can all see it, why can't you!.

Morst says...
5:04pm Sat 13 Mar 10

That's 5 points out of 60 (Sixty) for teams managed by Brian Laws! Thousands of Dingles left with 20 mins to go and when 4 mins injury time was announced with them only one goal behind more than half the seats were empty according to the radio - some fans eh!
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Celtic Rover you may be right - the derby in 2 weeks could be the only one for many years in the top flight!
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Sorry but any Rovers fan who thought that was OK today shows how far your expectations and standards have fallen - Spurs were there for the taking but with one lone striker who is not a lone striker shows we tried to grab some scraps and get lucky. Both Sparky and Souness would have gone for it and got something. BS is the most negative manager in BRFC history and the entertainment is total cr*p to boot.
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31st.........

eddie the eagle says...
5:20pm Sat 13 Mar 10

MORST:Name the other striker and the midfield and ask yourself honestly how they would hold their own.How anybody could give their season ticket away in protest at Sam football and still watch it on the telly and still complain is beyond me.

kevin e says...
5:27pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Some shocking defending today but the overall performance was not as bad as the moaners would make out.

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We started well and, had we converted the obvious penalty which we were denied, we may have gone on to get something from fourth-placed Spurs.

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As it happens we lost Robinson and gave away a couple of very poor goals and had a cracking goal from Niko disallowed by a shockingly bad referee.

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Spurs shoud have had a penalty as well so we could rightfully claim that a point would have been fair.

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A big improvement on the sort of performances we were putting in against the top sides earlier in the season.

miqaayil says...
5:29pm Sat 13 Mar 10

when will sam realise we are a good team who can give anyone run for money...i would stand up and say we could have won this and also liverpool.Dunn keeps going back to midfield as thats wo he is , a midfield player ... emerton was non-existent and chimbonda .. many mistakes ... please do not waste kalinic ... put in di santo beside him, they were genuinly scared when we had 2 strikers, wake up sam and smell the coffee

Jonny Bovril says...
5:34pm Sat 13 Mar 10

What do they say about making the same mistake over and over again?
I have stopped posting lately as I didnt want to complain whilst results were OK - but strewth it drives you nuts watching poor Kalinic pulling his tripe out for nowt!
Whatever confidence he has gained recently will soon disappear without some help and some more considered play instead of just knocking it up to him and hoping something will happen.

And crikey do we need some new full backs Salgado and Chimbonda were both lousy today.

The up side is the poor old Dingles.... oh dear they've gone. 3 points from safety and all their 'home bankers' now gone.
As Morst says Hammer and Nail on stand by!
Aye

ewoodpark says...
5:42pm Sat 13 Mar 10

kevin e wrote:
Some shocking defending today but the overall performance was not as bad as the moaners would make out. . We started well and, had we converted the obvious penalty which we were denied, we may have gone on to get something from fourth-placed Spurs. . As it happens we lost Robinson and gave away a couple of very poor goals and had a cracking goal from Niko disallowed by a shockingly bad referee. . Spurs shoud have had a penalty as well so we could rightfully claim that a point would have been fair. . A big improvement on the sort of performances we were putting in against the top sides earlier in the season.
kevin, spurs 3 points, rovers 0 points enough said, if like a couple of seasons ago when we played spurs of the park but lost one nil, then i didnt moan because we gave a god account of ourselves, today we didnt, i dont blame the players although our defence were left wanting, i blame BFS for waiting until we were 2-0 down before making the change, he should have made the change at half time we were only 1-0 down but didnt look like scoring, he should have thought lets give niko someone to play off.

bertiebee1 says...
6:42pm Sat 13 Mar 10

ewoodpark wrote:
bertiebee1 wrote:
glp wrote: Our defence is pants, none of them know how to mark the opposition
glp, i would'nt say that, our defence are far worse than yours. Our defenders, i wont names names like to set the opposition up to score goals, when there was'nt really any threat from the opposition. I really thought Rovers were going to get something at Spurs today seems like it went a bit pear shaped alot like our season. See you on the 28th. UTC
nice of you to say bertie, see you on the 28th, you'll know who we are, we're the team with one up front lol
Well mate the way our defence have defended this season (or not as the case maybe) you won't need anyone up front lol. Roll on the 28th . UTC

AnimalReid says...
6:43pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Sam, this is a disgrace. We've not played for, well, ages so thats your fault. The weathers not been great today - what are you doing, this is clearly down to bad tactics.

As for Spurs, we always win there. Yes I clearly remember when Souness and Hughes were manager we ALWAYS won at Spurs by at least 4 goals. This is your fault - you are inept.

Now Robinsons injured - that would never have happened if you'd played two up front.

If things get much worse, soon I'll be out of a job, I might lose the house and then I'll be on the booze and it'll all be your fault - if only you'd played two up front.
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You moaners are like a broken record. Lets do the 'I've forgotton how crap Paul Ince was' rap!!
Sams the man.

jack01 says...
6:51pm Sat 13 Mar 10

AnimalReid wrote:
Sam, this is a disgrace. We've not played for, well, ages so thats your fault. The weathers not been great today - what are you doing, this is clearly down to bad tactics. As for Spurs, we always win there. Yes I clearly remember when Souness and Hughes were manager we ALWAYS won at Spurs by at least 4 goals. This is your fault - you are inept. Now Robinsons injured - that would never have happened if you'd played two up front. If things get much worse, soon I'll be out of a job, I might lose the house and then I'll be on the booze and it'll all be your fault - if only you'd played two up front. ... You moaners are like a broken record. Lets do the 'I've forgotton how crap Paul Ince was' rap!! Sams the man.
Well said. It's just a pity that some rovers supporters seem to thrive off having a go at allardyce. If only we lost more games at home, that would really give people something to moan and groan about. Burnley are doing well playing good football aren't they?

blueandwhitey79 says...
7:04pm Sat 13 Mar 10

would have liked to see basturk come on rather than andrews he isnt a player to save the game ,think we should have had a better go at them, think it was a bad day for howard webb too, im not one to blame refs but i think he was a bit bent with the rules today...... still think were safe while the guff teams the bottom 3 cant win for toffee, i wont name names but the wolves are at the door for for them now...

blueandwhitey79 says...
7:06pm Sat 13 Mar 10

ewoodpark wrote:
jack01 wrote: Here we go, the moaners appear as soon as they spot an opportunity. Bet you've been waiting to have a good go at allardyce for weeks now but haven't had the chance. And as for Hoddle & Gray's comments, when have they ever been kind to rovers? They're the glory glory tottenham hotspur brigade, don't pay any attention to what them idiots say.
jack01, yes im having a moan, i pay my money and so have the right, but tell me this did we look like scoring with one up front?, the answer is no apart from a couple of half chances that didnt even trouble the stopper then we had nowt, but as soon as BFS put two up front the game opened up for us, but BFS cant see that, our defence is not up to scratch so the midfielders have having to drop back leaving one player up front against two of three defenders and what do we do?, hoof it up to a lone striker, sorry mate BFS is to blame, and i'll have a moan when i feel i need to.
one up fornt works against lesser opposition but against top 6 sides you wont get a sniff, chelsea in carling cup earlier this season we played 4-3-3 and that worked... why we never use it since?

barnsleyrover says...
7:20pm Sat 13 Mar 10

I believe in Sam's teams and tactics(most of the time)but even i had to do a double take when 2-0 down,we bring on Andrews while having 4 far more attacking players on the bench(i also like Andrews before anyone thinks i'm having a go at him).What was all that about?
Apart from that we were denied the obvious penalty when we were having our best spell of the match-that given and scored and who know's what the outcome would've been?

Maestro5 says...
7:26pm Sat 13 Mar 10

why's everyone having a moan. no team in the bottom 10 has picked up more than 6 points away from home. look around and consider rovers lucky to have such great home form.

Blackburn Yoof says...
7:46pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Negative manager, negative tactics, and some shocking signings. But apparently its the fans who are negative! You couldn't make it up. Sam was moaning we don't have a goalscorer last week. er..didn't you spend £6m on Kailinic, Mr Expert? Sam this week moans about the defending. Er...didn't you sign Salgado and Chimbonda, 2 truly awful full-backs? Big Sam = Big Moaner.

cantbeleiveyourallsostupid says...
8:31pm Sat 13 Mar 10

This is what I saw:

Decent opening period, passed the ball and worked spurs around, the 5 man midfield definately stopped the likes of Modric and Palacious geting a grip of the game. Spurs best play came from long and crossfield balls. Needed to consolidate a good start, Olssen should have taken his chance... and we ultimately ruined a good half by switching off in added time
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Second half started decently, bit of pressure... Then the mistake of a cold unused keeper (who was otherwise fantastic) put us in a bit of a mire. Do you throw everyone up at this point? considering we have a semi-fit Dunn and 34 year old left back and 35 minutes still to play? especially considering we have only two substitutes left because of the said injury?.... Big Keith comes into play (mainly because he can play several positions and has legs) and we try and soldier on looking for a goal.
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To sum the rest of the game up - some dodgy refereeing decisions, some hopeless defending, and some definate inexperience showing in certain parts. The tactics managed to stop spurs midfield for 55 inutes, and I beleive all in all we had a decent game today.
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Again an improvement on the away performances of earlier in the season.
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As for the debate... I beleive there is no debate. You either like Sam or you dont. If you dont, you dress up hatred in some twisted opinion. You cut your nose off to spite your own face when you "vote with your feet" as one of you would coin. If you like Sam, you forgive him for his Bolton days, his ocassional daft interviews and remember that the guy has managed at this level for at least a decade, He isnt as stupid as a simple 4-4-2 debate
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(please forgive spelling,rambling and any other grrrrrammatical errors!It's been a long day)
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Jonny Bovril says...
8:44pm Sat 13 Mar 10

AnimalReid wrote:
Sam, this is a disgrace. We've not played for, well, ages so thats your fault. The weathers not been great today - what are you doing, this is clearly down to bad tactics.

As for Spurs, we always win there. Yes I clearly remember when Souness and Hughes were manager we ALWAYS won at Spurs by at least 4 goals. This is your fault - you are inept.

Now Robinsons injured - that would never have happened if you'd played two up front.

If things get much worse, soon I'll be out of a job, I might lose the house and then I'll be on the booze and it'll all be your fault - if only you'd played two up front.
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You moaners are like a broken record. Lets do the 'I've forgotton how crap Paul Ince was' rap!!
Sams the man.
Sarcasm is breaking out !

I mean what do people want? ... entertaining football? are they daft how can that happen at Blackburn?

Have these people not heard Sam tell us that we are creating lots of chances but just not finishing them off ....and have they not heard Sam tell us that we are being robbed week in week out by dodgy refereering. They just wont listen.

I mean win a game away from home, what utter fools. They should just be glad we dont get hammered 5-0 every week. I mean to try and play proper football is like signing your own death warrant in this league.

And to try and change tactics during the season - what pillocks, we all know thats not allowed.

...and to cap it off some people think we play a negative long ball game - they want to have a look at the stats that'll sort them out.

Even the LT is at it.
Sec word 'some-slow' ....surely they can't mean our very own galactico and astute signing Salgado...can they?

jack01 says...
8:55pm Sat 13 Mar 10

How long until the sam haters are back out in force, calling for his sacking? A defeat to man u, or arsenal will probably do it. I thought for a moment that people were beginning to appreciate what sam is doing at the club, building a solid team with no money and all. But no, i now realise that opportunities have been hard to come by recently to have a go at the manager, too many good results to be able to criticise what's going on. Come on, have we to give paul ince a ring and try and lure him back, when he was here it was all edge of your seat stuff wasn't it?

eddie the eagle says...
10:06pm Sat 13 Mar 10

I at times have advocated Kalinic and DiSanto up front,but it's difficult to name a midfield four that would give us pace skill and tackling ability and stay fit.Bearing in mind that they are rarely fit I would pick Grella,Dunn,Nzonzi and Ollson but if as usual any one or two of my first choice couldn't play Iwould drop Di Santo and play 4 5 1.Now all the football purists who would play with wingers bring in Dunn and Basturk name your four midfielders to enable us to play this super football you advocate.

kool4katz says...
10:10pm Sat 13 Mar 10

people keep going on about 1 upfront, but if we played 4 across the middle do you realy think our midfield is strong enough to match spurs or arsenal man for man in the middle. ok we would have two upfront but have less support from the middle.
formation is not the problem we cant win the ball back,or a percentage ball in midfield enough, close down or retain the ball from a throw in,and we may as well put down pick up a runner from midfield as well to a long list

True Blue in Leicester says...
11:19pm Sat 13 Mar 10

cantbeleiveyourallso
stupid
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This is what I saw:

Decent opening period, passed the ball and worked spurs around, the 5 man midfield definately stopped the likes of Modric and Palacious geting a grip of the game. Spurs best play came from long and crossfield balls. Needed to consolidate a good start, Olssen should have taken his chance... and we ultimately ruined a good half by switching off in added time
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Second half started decently, bit of pressure... Then the mistake of a cold unused keeper (who was otherwise fantastic) put us in a bit of a mire. Do you throw everyone up at this point? considering we have a semi-fit Dunn and 34 year old left back and 35 minutes still to play? especially considering we have only two substitutes left because of the said injury?.... Big Keith comes into play (mainly because he can play several positions and has legs) and we try and soldier on looking for a goal.
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To sum the rest of the game up - some dodgy refereeing decisions, some hopeless defending, and some definate inexperience showing in certain parts. The tactics managed to stop spurs midfield for 55 inutes, and I beleive all in all we had a decent game today.
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Again an improvement on the away performances of earlier in the season.
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As for the debate... I beleive there is no debate. You either like Sam or you dont. If you dont, you dress up hatred in some twisted opinion. You cut your nose off to spite your own face when you "vote with your feet" as one of you would coin. If you like Sam, you forgive him for his Bolton days, his ocassional daft interviews and remember that the guy has managed at this level for at least a decade, He isnt as stupid as a simple 4-4-2 debate
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(please forgive spelling,rambling and any other grrrrrammatical errors!It's been a long day)
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Good post, I agree with most of your match summary. We were to some extent our own worst enemies today. Once more giving away soft goals (1 & 2). But I suppose that's Sam's fault he got rid of our wonderful defensive coach (remember him) and he does no defending at all in the stands. Shame on him, being let down by some of his players.

elma says...
11:21pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Just can't believe that we lost away to that top 4 chasing,multi zillion pound team.

Roverthere says...
4:18am Sun 14 Mar 10

Rovers played reasonable well and did not deserve the 3:1 defeat. A couple of errors in defence and a poor refereeing decision did not help plus Robinsons injury.

Keep going Sam, results will come! I suggest the moaners move up the road, plenty to moan about there!

J.C - Rishton says...
5:10am Sun 14 Mar 10

I actually consider myself a neutral in the BFS debate - on the plus side he has stabalised things after the shambles of the PI era and has started to bring in some younger (good) players. On the negative side, some of his signings have been uttterly shocking (esp Salgardo on £40K a week and on a 2 yr deal ?? when it clear that at prem level, his legs have gone, and he put JW in a difficult position by saying he "HAD" to sign this player, after we had balanced our books for the year).
He also failed to bring in a striker in Jan when 1, it was obv Benni was gonna leave & 2, he could have sent Di Santo home 1st Jan (hasnt done it at Prem level) and tried to sign someone on loan from 1st Jan to dirrectly replace him instead of waiting until 4pm on 1st Feb to sign Dindane on loan only for the deal to fall though over 1 clause because of the time factor - big mistake.
Also, this persistance in 4-5-1 away from home simply dosent work. Yesterday was a perfect example WHY it dosent work. We started well but didnt score (fair enough) but as the oppo gets on top you get pushed back and back, that front man gets far too isolated, and infact you effectively play for periods with 9 outfielders, with spells where you don't get to push out and re-organise and in the prem there are too many good offensive players who punish you once you get too deep and/or lose your shape. Once we've conceed 1,2,3 we then change things for last 20 mins, do ok, sometimes score, sometimes conceed cos we now leave too much space at the back. End of game - LOSE.
I beleive in our players - I just wish BFS would as well. Yes we may well have lost yesterday if we'd have played 442 but I think over the course of the away season so far we would have amassed more than 6 away points if we'd have more faith in our team and played 442 in every away game (bear in mind the only away win of the season, BFS was away and we played the entire 2nd half with Diouff and Di Santo upfront and Dunny in the hole).

No doubt I'll get slagged off for seemingly slagging off BFS but I'm trying to be fair handed - he's done some really good things for the club but in other areas he has not done very well, mainly AWAY TACTICS.

Forever Blue says...
7:44am Sun 14 Mar 10

True Blue in Leicester, & cantbeleiveyourallso
stupid great posts spot on! these players have professional coaching sessions all week, they talk tactics about the next game all week , pratice set plays all week, mentally prepare for the next game all week, so why the hell did we allow a England striker a right fox in the box to stand on his own unmarked at the back post for a tap in.

bed and breakfast man_! says...
9:03am Sun 14 Mar 10

J.C - Rishton wrote:
I actually consider myself a neutral in the BFS debate - on the plus side he has stabalised things after the shambles of the PI era and has started to bring in some younger (good) players. On the negative side, some of his signings have been uttterly shocking (esp Salgardo on £40K a week and on a 2 yr deal ?? when it clear that at prem level, his legs have gone, and he put JW in a difficult position by saying he "HAD" to sign this player, after we had balanced our books for the year). He also failed to bring in a striker in Jan when 1, it was obv Benni was gonna leave & 2, he could have sent Di Santo home 1st Jan (hasnt done it at Prem level) and tried to sign someone on loan from 1st Jan to dirrectly replace him instead of waiting until 4pm on 1st Feb to sign Dindane on loan only for the deal to fall though over 1 clause because of the time factor - big mistake. Also, this persistance in 4-5-1 away from home simply dosent work. Yesterday was a perfect example WHY it dosent work. We started well but didnt score (fair enough) but as the oppo gets on top you get pushed back and back, that front man gets far too isolated, and infact you effectively play for periods with 9 outfielders, with spells where you don't get to push out and re-organise and in the prem there are too many good offensive players who punish you once you get too deep and/or lose your shape. Once we've conceed 1,2,3 we then change things for last 20 mins, do ok, sometimes score, sometimes conceed cos we now leave too much space at the back. End of game - LOSE. I beleive in our players - I just wish BFS would as well. Yes we may well have lost yesterday if we'd have played 442 but I think over the course of the away season so far we would have amassed more than 6 away points if we'd have more faith in our team and played 442 in every away game (bear in mind the only away win of the season, BFS was away and we played the entire 2nd half with Diouff and Di Santo upfront and Dunny in the hole). No doubt I'll get slagged off for seemingly slagging off BFS but I'm trying to be fair handed - he's done some really good things for the club but in other areas he has not done very well, mainly AWAY TACTICS.
You pretty much sum it up in your comments......
But no dout the fickle lot who just want Premiership football at any cost will not agree ,But those Rose coloured specs do cover a lot up for the 'Sun is shining' brigade......
I have started to belive he does not give a toss about away games, After all we are near the points tally we need and he will still not change anything, Or have a go, One up front on his own is all too easy to deal with.We could change things, For a change.
But lets wait for that dumb **** comment, It does not fit in with Sams plans'....Like some on here know every move Sam is going to make or do !
But lets be fair ,All the premiership managers do, And set up to deal with the one up front crap with ease.
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local chap says...
9:04am Sun 14 Mar 10

next 3 games nil points get used to it bfs has been lucky to get to 34 points the way we play and this style is easy for oppositions to play again,we are simply not fit enough and this reflects on marking ,defending and the result,would be surprised if we dont win another game and just stay out of the drop zone ,then another year of it all but next season not bothering we will go down if things dont change ,mpg will go and more will follow

hasslem hasslem says...
9:11am Sun 14 Mar 10

I am not going to go on about pro-Sam this or anti-Sam that.
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Just that for those of you who think Brown should be in the team ahead of Robinson - I hope you were watching yesterday. Everyone can get the jitters, but he made enough mistakes yesterday to be offered a 3 year contract as replacemnet for Jensen at the Clampett's.

cantbeleiveyourallsostupid says...
9:36am Sun 14 Mar 10

JC - I would love to look at all spurs games this season at home, looking at the away teams and proove to you that hardly any of them have played 4-4-2... I just don't have the time or the will. People like yourself need to smell the coffee and realise that the 4-4-2 of the past is gone. We NEEDED to stop the midfield to give us a chance yesterday, and our best chance to do it was with a 5 midfield, and it worked for nearly an hour. Dont forget our best fit holding midfielder (N'Zonzi) is in his first Premiership season he needs a little protection. Our other best Attacking midfielder is Dunn, and he does not have the legs or the tackling skills to play in a straight 4, and if we played him at the front of a diamond, with N'zonzi' behind him, his lack of experience would leave him isolated a lot of the time.
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This season has basically shown us all that we need to invest in midfield. Even if we wanted to play 4-4-2 would you realistically have in the middle? N'zonzi and Andrews? Local Chap your negative attitude is not wanted at Ewood. Take it elsewhere.
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If any body thinks that we play negative football... I suggest you phone Sky up and request yesterdays 1st half... If you lived on the moon and had no idea about football, and if someone asked you this question based on the first half "who do you think is 4th place in England and has spent £200m+ in the last 5 years?" You would struggle to answer
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blueandwhitey79 says...
9:38am Sun 14 Mar 10

hasslem hasslem wrote:
I am not going to go on about pro-Sam this or anti-Sam that. . Just that for those of you who think Brown should be in the team ahead of Robinson - I hope you were watching yesterday. Everyone can get the jitters, but he made enough mistakes yesterday to be offered a 3 year contract as replacemnet for Jensen at the Clampett's.
watched MOTD this morning loved Jensens bull attack on the wolves strikers arse... WTF?? haha.... not relevant to the post but you reminded me of it by mentioning the beast

marghen says...
9:38am Sun 14 Mar 10

Just had a little giggle to myself - re Kevin from Portugal -he comes on here to moan about the moaners! Kev, I think you’ve made your feelings about ’US’ moaners quite clearly now- give it a rest and concentrate on the team performances, which was poor-it’s a shame that ‘armchair’ fans like you can’t see it & want to keep ‘proper’ fans quiet that can!) -by the way is the weather warming up down there?
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My oh my what wouldn’t I give for a Hird & Bailey in the team right now- the lack of pace with our full backs has been in evidence for most of the season, really showed yesterday- only one person to blame for that -Mr Ally dice -firstly he signed them, secondly he played them & thirdly he, like everyone watching yesterday, realised that Salgado was a light year behind Bale for pace but, did nothing! There are hundreds of young full backs out there within our budget who are quicker than Salgado-Ally dice choose to ignored them, instead signing an ageing ex-Spanish international-his best years are way behind him and all the managers in Primera league & the EPL realised that, apart from one! Mr Ally dice is a self promoter and realised he could be seen as a Svengali type if he could turn back the years for Salgado problem is a Svengali lures talented people!
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Jeppo -still going to(prediction) form!

marghen says...
9:52am Sun 14 Mar 10

Maestro5 wrote:
why's everyone having a moan. no team in the bottom 10 has picked up more than 6 points away from home. look around and consider rovers lucky to have such great home form.
Hmm-had one too many!
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Stoke City -13 away points
Bolton -12 away points
Wigan -11 away points
West Ham- 8 away points
Wolves -12 away points
Pompey -8 away points
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Try checking the league table !%*@##::

bertiebee1 says...
10:07am Sun 14 Mar 10

blueandwhitey79 wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote: I am not going to go on about pro-Sam this or anti-Sam that. . Just that for those of you who think Brown should be in the team ahead of Robinson - I hope you were watching yesterday. Everyone can get the jitters, but he made enough mistakes yesterday to be offered a 3 year contract as replacemnet for Jensen at the Clampett's.
watched MOTD this morning loved Jensens bull attack on the wolves strikers arse... WTF?? haha.... not relevant to the post but you reminded me of it by mentioning the beast
BAW, ello chap dont you just love Jensen, lmao maybe you could have him in exchange for Robbo lol.

I mean he has been a good shot stopper in the past but christ he has dropped some clangers recently. But what was he playing at? All that was missing was his horns lol.

Remember the 2nd goal at your place this season . Flapping at the ball trying to claim a freekick lmao.

A pensioner with a walking stick could have done better.

Cant wait for the 28th lol.

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cantbeleiveyourallsostupid says...
10:13am Sun 14 Mar 10

Marge is an example of the type of fan I talked about in my earlier post...

Someone who hates Sam, so he dresses up hatred as opinion. Take your crap elsewhere, or forge a proper opinion... instead of suggesting we take off our right back at half time when we already are down to 2 substitutes. Absolutely moronic suggestion. And Pray.... please tell me about these full backs with bags of pace we can afford!!!
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I think that returning to these boards was a bad idea, as I am already Fuming!

Morst says...
10:26am Sun 14 Mar 10

I can't believe that anyone thinks we would have only 6 (SIX) away points and only 1 (ONE) away win in 19 games if we played away like we wanted to take the game to the opposition.
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Yes when Chelsea etc are on form you can accept a game plan to stiffle them but Spurs, Liverpool and 14 other teams were beatable with a bit of adventure.
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Looking at that Burnley defence does anyone want to play a system that will not put it under pressure? Because we are playing for scraps away from home and handing the innitiative to the home team however rubbish, out of form or injury prone they are.
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I can't remember when we have last been so bad away and to top it all the entertainment is rubbish.
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31st......

cantbeleiveyourallsostupid says...
10:30am Sun 14 Mar 10

but morst...

you cut your own nose off to spite your own face. Your opinion is null and void because you relinquished your opinion when you gave your ST away.
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Grow some balls, admit you are wrong.. and then I might give your sentiment more then 10 seconds browse

marghen says...
10:34am Sun 14 Mar 10

Stupid, talk about the football instead “of the type of fan I talk about” learn that other people have different outlooks and opinions and try to accept them -I know its hard but, give it a go you may well feel the benefit & the “fuming” will dissipate. Oh, where did I say take our full back off? Quite obivious to us “moronic” fans that Salgado needed help from someone doubling up-which didn’t happen in the first half, it was quite clear after 10mins that he couldn’t cope & Ally dice did nothing!

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Xabier Castillo
Rafa
José Ángel Crespo
Chico
Felipe Mattioni
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That’s just 5 players from the Spanish PL- all defenders all under 23years old & all would have cost Rovers less than Salgado- like I said there are hundreds!

cantbeleiveyourallsostupid says...
10:40am Sun 14 Mar 10

We can all quote players from Football Manager 2010's database.. but I feel that I trust the club and the managers scouting network over your's

Morst says...
10:42am Sun 14 Mar 10

cantbeleiveyourallso
stupid
wrote:
but morst...

you cut your own nose off to spite your own face. Your opinion is null and void because you relinquished your opinion when you gave your ST away.
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Grow some balls, admit you are wrong.. and then I might give your sentiment more then 10 seconds browse
But I am just having debate - not throwing insults around just because of different opinions.
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I find it amazing that rovers fans who have seen the way we play for many many years have been sucked into the PR from BS for what is the worst style of football on Ewood ever -its just a modern updated form of Wimbledon's style. Ugly, horrid.
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As regards your other comment I will always be a Rovers fan whether it is via live games or Sky's half match football first which is more than enough of BS football - in fact MOTD is often more than enough! As I have said before I will have attended more games at Ewood than most over 50 years including even Manx cup games! But I have never felt such a lack of anticipation as I have this season.
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31st.......

marghen says...
10:44am Sun 14 Mar 10

stupid,I suggest you take your chip & bury it!

marghen says...
10:48am Sun 14 Mar 10

are better still take your mummy some flowers!

Miller11 says...
11:41am Sun 14 Mar 10

Big Sam Supporters...

"All that matters is results"


"If we play 4-4-2 we will lose"


Yet you still come on here, insisting the man can do no wrong after losing playing the same formation and style we always do away.

Our midfielders hardly had a kick yesterday.
Why were Diouf and Andrews dropped to the bench - both had been performing well lately.

Olsson got destroyed by Lennon there last year, Salgado by Bale this.

4-4-2 is a thing of the past... try telling Spurs that. They were far better than us, and it was obvious that they had 2 or 3 gears further to step it up.
Before anyone says anything stupid, there is a big difference between the superbly accurate long distance to feet passing spurs played and the desperate hoofing we are still reliant on.

cantbeleiveyourallsostupid says...
12:57pm Sun 14 Mar 10

I agree with parts of your post Miller, but there is a big difference between Modric & Palacios and N'zonzi & Dunn. Infact whatever pairing you can name that we have in our ranks, you will not come near to matching the quality that the top 7 of this league has.
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It has to be said that we did give the ball away lots yesterday, but this happens when you are outclassed in every department. The only way to compete in this league for teams like us is through Percentage football. Id love to gauge the opinions of Stoke fans on this matter
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Put it into to context - Burnley under Coyle probably played the kind of football that you guys all crave so dear - they went to White Hart lane, had much of the early stages, where unlucky to have a decent goal chalked off for offside but through being stretched they ultimatley got hammered.
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Allardyce is not this stupid. He does not see football like you darlings... a basic name and number game. He has probably the 2nd hardest Job in this league after Brian Laws (excluding Avram) and he hasnt done that bad. Yes, I seek improvement, but thus is life. I want My team to improve... I am Blackburn Rovers.
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All I ask of you guys is a bit of rethink. Try and trim your views to be a bit more realistic. Don't hark on about the past because that's exactly what it is.. it's past. Pinch yourselves and be happy we still have a top level team in our small town, and realise how many other places would love to say the same!
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J.C - Rishton says...
1:00pm Sun 14 Mar 10

1 - 442 is not a thing of the past. 2 - we didnt keep spurs at bay for nearly an hour, they scored in the 1st half. 3 if 4-5-1 works so well, why have we got only 6 pts away from home (and 3 of them was when we were playing 442 !!!!). Answers on a postcard please.

cantbeleiveyourallsostupid says...
1:28pm Sun 14 Mar 10

1. simple numerical "442" is a thing of the past at this level. you could group the formations 41212,4312, etc as 442 formations but you will never see a team in the top level playing a standard 442 constantly.
2. we kept spurs at bay for nearly an hour other than switching off in 1st half added time and a mistake from a cold keeper (see my earlier post)
3. How many points have we picked up at home this season playing 4-5-1? Although this is me answering a question with a question... it prooves my point. And against Bolton we played 4411... which could be technically defined as a 451 formation :)
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blueandwhitey79 says...
2:31pm Sun 14 Mar 10

bertiebee1 wrote:
blueandwhitey79 wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote: I am not going to go on about pro-Sam this or anti-Sam that. . Just that for those of you who think Brown should be in the team ahead of Robinson - I hope you were watching yesterday. Everyone can get the jitters, but he made enough mistakes yesterday to be offered a 3 year contract as replacemnet for Jensen at the Clampett's.
watched MOTD this morning loved Jensens bull attack on the wolves strikers arse... WTF?? haha.... not relevant to the post but you reminded me of it by mentioning the beast
BAW, ello chap dont you just love Jensen, lmao maybe you could have him in exchange for Robbo lol. I mean he has been a good shot stopper in the past but christ he has dropped some clangers recently. But what was he playing at? All that was missing was his horns lol. Remember the 2nd goal at your place this season . Flapping at the ball trying to claim a freekick lmao. A pensioner with a walking stick could have done better. Cant wait for the 28th lol. UTC
haha knowing our luck he'll probably have a blinder against us that day.. just hope we go into that one positive and not nick a point sam style..

bed and breakfast man_! says...
2:34pm Sun 14 Mar 10

So in a nut shell, 4-5-1 is the future, Nothing else, OH and feck anything away from home.......
So come on lads do not debate this anymore, After all this is a forum,Lets put it down in stone and not dare ask anything what Sam does or says.Let us kneel and behold the Great Samuel......

For some its see what you want to see, And disregard the rest.....

J.C - Rishton says...
3:24pm Sun 14 Mar 10

If no one plays a straight 442 how come no-one has told Fabio Capello ?? He has publicly stated that whilst he is in charge of England they will ALWAYS play a 442 formation in all major competitive games. Just watched Utd on telly, whoops playing a genuine 442. Forgot about Arsenel and Chelsea yesterday - also playing genuine (2 out and out strikers up front) 442. And, no doubt you'll say, ah but they,re all top sides, well what about GOD himself. We all agree they're abag of kak but since taking over they've kept 5 clean sheats out of 10 (previously kept 0) and have won 3 of their last 4 games - all playing a conventional 442 formation so please please please stop talking out of your behind. You could reasonably argue that currently Rovers don't have the personnel to play 442 as we only have 3 strikers on our books and 2 of them are pretty useless but please don't try bullshiiiting everyone into thinking that 442 has disappeared out of the game. I can guarantee you that at this world cup, England, Argentina, Brazil, Holland, Germany and Italy (if current friendlies are to go by) will all start with 442 formations !!!!!!

J.C - Rishton says...
3:29pm Sun 14 Mar 10

I repeat - I am NOT anti-BFS but I am anti losing every away game. Back the players - let them express themselves - sure we'll lose many games - but surely everyone on here has enough faith in our players to be able to out football many in this league away from home and pick up more than 6 pts ?? Don't they ??

tinybrfc says...
3:32pm Sun 14 Mar 10

Xabier Castillo-left back,signed a four year deal with Bilbao a month before Salgado joined us.
Rafael 'Rafa' García García-Midfeild,pla
ying for Rayo Vallecano in the Spanish second division.
José Ángel Crespo-Only made six appearences this season on loan to Santander
Chico-Central defender
Felipe Mattioni -Good enough only to make one start while at AC Milan and could only get a one year contract at Mallorca due to consistent injury problems

marghen says...
5:10pm Sun 14 Mar 10

tinybrfc wrote:
Xabier Castillo-left back,signed a four year deal with Bilbao a month before Salgado joined us. Rafael 'Rafa' García García-Midfeild,pla ying for Rayo Vallecano in the Spanish second division. José Ángel Crespo-Only made six appearences this season on loan to Santander Chico-Central defender Felipe Mattioni -Good enough only to make one start while at AC Milan and could only get a one year contract at Mallorca due to consistent injury problems
Not sure what point you're trying to make, apart from confirming like I stated that they are all young defenders -I think you need to check your other ‘facts’
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“Rafael 'Rafa' García García” is a different player than the one I meant (mentioned) Rafa - Rafael López Gómez plays for FC Getafe aged 24 right footed 17 appearance in the PSL scoring one goal. .

José Ángel Crespo has made 8 SPL appearance this season not 6 like you state.
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Felipe Mattioni your information is dated and wrong-try and keep up -Felipe played one game last season for AC Milan-he’s played 9 SPL games this season for RCD Mallorca-his last game was against FC Getafe a 3-0 defeat on the 13.03.2010 - 06:00 PM kick-off.
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That desperate to make a point you jumped in with both feet hehe…

marghen says...
5:17pm Sun 14 Mar 10

* spot the deliberate mistake -first one to get it…..

hasslem hasslem says...
5:21pm Sun 14 Mar 10

marghen wrote:
* spot the deliberate mistake -first one to get it…..
your parents making a baby?

marghen says...
5:28pm Sun 14 Mar 10

I just knew it would be you.

eddie the eagle says...
5:31pm Sun 14 Mar 10

hasslem hasslem wrote:
marghen wrote: * spot the deliberate mistake -first one to get it…..
your parents making a baby?
star!

marghen says...
5:35pm Sun 14 Mar 10

Boys-ganging up on me -I’ll be seeing my solicitor tomoz

Morst says...
6:50pm Sun 14 Mar 10

eddie the eagle wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
marghen wrote: * spot the deliberate mistake -first one to get it…..
your parents making a baby?
star!
Never set yourself up! (I should talk)
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Good to see some debate without abuse for anyone that is not thrilled with BS style football.
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Come on Rovers fans - we want a bit of entertainemnt from our football team first and foremost don't we if you think about parting with your cash over a long period?
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Most of all KALINIC could be a real star if we get some support to him in the form of wingers crossing and a partner - let the OTHER team worry about us Big Sam for a change (especially outside the Big 4 away!) Starting on the 28th Please - no excuses!
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31st.........

Mike Costa says...
7:18pm Sun 14 Mar 10

cantbeleiveyourallso
stupid
wrote:
Marge is an example of the type of fan I talked about in my earlier post... Someone who hates Sam, so he dresses up hatred as opinion. Take your crap elsewhere, or forge a proper opinion... instead of suggesting we take off our right back at half time when we already are down to 2 substitutes. Absolutely moronic suggestion. And Pray.... please tell me about these full backs with bags of pace we can afford!!! + I think that returning to these boards was a bad idea, as I am already Fuming!
Mike Costa says:

Yes, I said I wouldn't post on here again, but this Icantbelievehestotal
lybraindead is such a self opinionated ar$ehloe that I just have to make a brief return to say:
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Icantbelieveetc, you have to be a complete moron. Peoples opinions will always differ, and this site is to be used for debate and argument. However, you are so entrenched in your opinions, lack the intelligence to put together any sort of coherent argument, and are just unpleasant with it that i think you should do all the other posters a favour and f#ck off.

marghen says...
8:27pm Sun 14 Mar 10

Mike Costa -don’t be a stranger.

Blackburn Yoof says...
9:03pm Sun 14 Mar 10

Mike Costa - I salute you. The guy you refer to above is a complete tool.

miqaayil says...
9:11pm Sun 14 Mar 10

442 is not just numerical or paper formation like some guys here think ... the problem with our so called current 4411 is dunn drops too deep and when ball played to kalinic he is all alone. whenever another striker comes in we always pose danger .... when di santo came on we looked good ... they will make a good pair .. give them a start ... have andrews and nzonzi play in middle and have dunn operate right and MGP on left ... keep midfield compact .. use olsen in defence left with emerton on right, both are speedy ... u think its not playable ..i learnt a good lesson when i was ten ... the best defence is offence ... we already losing ... why not is all we ask ... stop blaming our squad and stop thinking we are a small club punching above, and just roll over like a poodle and give some bite is all we ask, i sincerely hope we don't just roll over for chelsea....

hasslem hasslem says...
9:50pm Sun 14 Mar 10

miqaayil wrote:
442 is not just numerical or paper formation like some guys here think ... the problem with our so called current 4411 is dunn drops too deep and when ball played to kalinic he is all alone. whenever another striker comes in we always pose danger .... when di santo came on we looked good ... they will make a good pair .. give them a start ... have andrews and nzonzi play in middle and have dunn operate right and MGP on left ... keep midfield compact .. use olsen in defence left with emerton on right, both are speedy ... u think its not playable ..i learnt a good lesson when i was ten ... the best defence is offence ... we already losing ... why not is all we ask ... stop blaming our squad and stop thinking we are a small club punching above, and just roll over like a poodle and give some bite is all we ask, i sincerely hope we don't just roll over for chelsea....
we won't roll over for chelsea, sam will try to do his mate, taggart, a favour.

jeppo says...
11:00am Mon 15 Mar 10

cantbelieveyourealls
ostupid...I love your posts!! its funny how, the more accurate and astute you get, the more it hurts those that can't see it.


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