
8:30am Friday 20th March 2009
STEWARDS confiscated football fans’ 10ft flag of St. George, claiming it could be viewed as a ‘racist symbol’.
The group of Blackburn Rovers supporters said they were left stunned by the actions of the officials at Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium.
A Blackburn councillor, who is deputy chairman of national patriotic group the Royal Society of St George, said the ‘ridiculous move’ had prevented the fans ‘showing pride in their country’.
Arsenal FC said it had decided to ban all national flags following a row over a fan’s Turkish Cypriot flag in 2006.
Supporters from the Havelock Inn, Havelock Street, Mill Hill, unfurled their English flag, emblazoned with “Havelock Blues”, at the stadium before Saturday’s game.
David Iley, 24, of Bamber Bridge, a regular at the pub who arranged for the flag to be made, said: “When we got there we started putting it out, and the steward came up and told us we couldn’t.
“It never entered my head at first that the St George Cross wasn’t allowed. I thought it was just that we couldn’t put it there.
“So we hooked it over the hoardings at the front instead, and the next thing we know a steward was taking it away, saying it could be seen as a racist symbol.
“I couldn’t believe it. When we took it to Hull the stewards even helped us put it up. It’s the national flag and its absolutely stupid that Arsenal should ban it.”
Since it was made just a month ago, the flag had already travelled to Hull City and Fulham with the pub fans with no problems.
Spokesmen for Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool all confirmed that national flags were allowed at their home grounds.
Coun Williams slammed Arsenal.
He said: “We are planning a St George extravaganza on April 23, and giving out St George’s flags all over town, and yet we have those same English flags being confiscated. It’s ridiculous.
“The one thing we want people to be proud of is being English and people are taking more and more pride in their country.
“These people were expressing that pride in the right way, just like they should be able to do at any time and certainly at any national event.”
An Arsenal spokesman said the ban related a row in December 2006.
An Arsenal Turkish Cypriot season ticket holder riled Greek Cypriot fans by displaying his flag.
As a result, all national flags are now banned at the stadium.
The Arsenal spokesman said: “Arsenal as a club prides itself on being inclusive with respect to all nationalities, cultural and ethnic groups.
“We have therefore decided that in order for all of our fans to enjoy their experience at Emirates Stadium, we are asking that only flags without any national emblems, are displayed within the stadium.”
He added that the ban was lifted for international matches at the ground.”
John Newsham, stadium safety manager at Blackburn Rovers, said: “We would never comment on the policy of other clubs in relation to flags.
“We have an open approach, providing the flags meet set criteria.
"For example, flags are vetted for any inappropriate wording which may be considered offensive by the club or any spectators and they must not be draped over emergency exit signs or advertising hoardings.”
Haz, says...
8:57am Fri 20 Mar 09
midas, burnley says...
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Ian the Beancounter, Darwen says...
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duke bar, burnley says...
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hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
9:33am Fri 20 Mar 09
samspence, BLACKBURN says...
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Joe Smith, Blackburn says...
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the genuine cypruslad, cyprus says...
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Soccerover, Bermagui says...
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paolowhite, oswaldtwistle says...
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makaveli96, Blackburn says...
10:53am Fri 20 Mar 09
Ossy blue, Ossy says...
10:55am Fri 20 Mar 09
Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker of Dingles!, Accrington says...
11:51am Fri 20 Mar 09
fkhan, burnley says...
12:01pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Rover_gem, Blackburn says...
12:04pm Fri 20 Mar 09
midas wrote:Fair enough, but I went to watch Brazil vs. Sweden at the Emirates and there were plenty of National flags on show there. I understand that it would be stupid and extremely difficult to confiscate all National flags at an International match, but surely the same rules apply?!
Its nothing to do with English, indeed the explanation is in the article!! A condition of entry into the Emirates (which is private property)is no National flags, not no English flags, none of any country. If the Havelock Blues had a 10ft blue and white flag with the Blackburn crest on they wouldn't have had to take it down.
michael saul, blackburn says...
12:38pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Paddy Mac, Darwen says...
12:41pm Fri 20 Mar 09
brfcianbrfc, blackburn says...
12:44pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Vinjay, Blackburn says...
12:57pm Fri 20 Mar 09
chaostheory, Blackburn says...
1:08pm Fri 20 Mar 09
chaostheory, Blackburn says...
1:11pm Fri 20 Mar 09
midas, burnley says...
1:13pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Rover_gem wrote:Its in the article!
midas wrote: Its nothing to do with English, indeed the explanation is in the article!! A condition of entry into the Emirates (which is private property)is no National flags, not no English flags, none of any country. If the Havelock Blues had a 10ft blue and white flag with the Blackburn crest on they wouldn't have had to take it down.Fair enough, but I went to watch Brazil vs. Sweden at the Emirates and there were plenty of National flags on show there. I understand that it would be stupid and extremely difficult to confiscate all National flags at an International match, but surely the same rules apply?! ENGLISH AND PROUD
marghen, taunton says...
2:08pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Monte, Barrowford/Montenegro says...
2:15pm Fri 20 Mar 09
jennyspain, la cala says...
2:49pm Fri 20 Mar 09
LadyB28 wrote:If this was the other way around it would of been on national tv by now!! I think these men should take this further as its about time we start standing up for our rights as english people and show we are proud of where we come from.
Sorry! Please can someone just remind me what country I live?
Ossyossyossy, Ossy says...
3:18pm Fri 20 Mar 09
marghen, taunton says...
3:24pm Fri 20 Mar 09
jennyspain wrote:How’s the weather on the Costa Dorada!
LadyB28 wrote: Sorry! Please can someone just remind me what country I live?If this was the other way around it would of been on national tv by now!! I think these men should take this further as its about time we start standing up for our rights as english people and show we are proud of where we come from.
Ossyossyossy, Ossy says...
3:25pm Fri 20 Mar 09
billyrover53, blackburn says...
3:37pm Fri 20 Mar 09
sofia, blackburn says...
4:26pm Fri 20 Mar 09
hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
4:54pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Joe Smith, Blackburn says...
6:41pm Fri 20 Mar 09
supersub, Mellor says...
6:50pm Fri 20 Mar 09
pottermill, norwich says...
7:00pm Fri 20 Mar 09
makaveli96, Blackburn says...
7:17pm Fri 20 Mar 09
pottermill, norwich says...
7:22pm Fri 20 Mar 09
retired one, Blackburn says...
8:23pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Akki, Accy says...
8:55pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Toshy67, Blackburn says...
9:48pm Fri 20 Mar 09
paulc, darwen says...
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Andyj23uk, Clitheroe says...
2:50am Sat 21 Mar 09
wacked1212, blackburn says...
8:49am Sat 21 Mar 09
Vinjay wrote:Because Blackburn is in..erm...England...
I believe this highly trivial matter was on the front page of the LET today. The only question that should be asked is why a England flag instead of a BRFC flag?
makaveli96, Blackburn says...
9:22am Sat 21 Mar 09
Blondie, says...
9:53am Sat 21 Mar 09
wacked1212 wrote:wacked1212,
Vinjay wrote: I believe this highly trivial matter was on the front page of the LET today. The only question that should be asked is why a England flag instead of a BRFC flag?Because Blackburn is in..erm...England... .soft lad
Blondie, says...
9:53am Sat 21 Mar 09
wacked1212 wrote:wacked1212,
Vinjay wrote: I believe this highly trivial matter was on the front page of the LET today. The only question that should be asked is why a England flag instead of a BRFC flag?Because Blackburn is in..erm...England... .soft lad
Andyj23uk, Clitheroe says...
10:49am Sat 21 Mar 09
wacked1212 wrote:and what country is london in ???
Vinjay wrote: I believe this highly trivial matter was on the front page of the LET today. The only question that should be asked is why a England flag instead of a BRFC flag?Because Blackburn is in..erm...England... .soft lad
Lancastr-ian, North Cyprus says...
11:18am Sat 21 Mar 09
sandberet22, tidworth says...
12:53pm Sat 21 Mar 09
makaveli96 wrote:Ireland, should read Paranoid about their history not patriotic, And England a Catholic country, as it should be, I don't think so.
Look at Ireland and how patriotic they are about there history!
If England was a Catholic country again (as it should be), stuff like this would never happen!
Lets take it back!
Hail Hail Blackburn Rovers!
Akki, Accy says...
1:03pm Sat 21 Mar 09
makaveli96 wrote:If you look at the evolution thread you will find this is an atheist country
Look at Ireland and how patriotic they are about there history! If England was a Catholic country again (as it should be), stuff like this would never happen! Lets take it back! Hail Hail Blackburn Rovers!
baz58, york says...
3:03pm Sat 21 Mar 09
Akki, Accy says...
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Director, Blighty says...
10:46pm Sat 21 Mar 09
Blondie, says...
9:30am Sun 22 Mar 09
Akki, Accy says...
1:03pm Sat 21 Mar 09
If you look at the evolution thread you will find this is an atheist country.
Blondie, says...
9:32am Sun 22 Mar 09
bertie bert, says...
9:54am Sun 22 Mar 09
Hellboy, Blackburn says...
2:20pm Sun 22 Mar 09
brfcianbrfc wrote:St.GBorge...Now thats a new one! I never realised our patron saint was actually a cybernetically-enhan
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Hellboy, Blackburn says...
2:38pm Sun 22 Mar 09
bertie bert wrote:Correct,Bertie,and I cannot understand why people don't see things just like this!
When will people understand, a flag represents your nationality not your race!
Everyone should be proud to fly their flag of their nationality, especially in their own country !
It doesnt mean you hate anyone of other nations.
willybob, padiham says...
3:25pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Blondie wrote:is it england we are in.i did wonder where we were seen as how iv just got back from accrington town centre and theres thousands of muslims marching thro the streets shouting there heads off and holding up banners.
This country, being England.
Hellboy, Blackburn says...
3:37pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Tommy35, Burnley says...
3:39pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Hellboy, Blackburn says...
3:49pm Sun 22 Mar 09
slater9251, aspul says...
10:55pm Sun 22 Mar 09
HRH8, belfast says...
7:56pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Tommy35, Burnley says...
8:47pm Mon 23 Mar 09
slater9251 wrote:Quite right!
Tommy35, couldn't resist! Nowhere not no-where (twice)
Blondie, says...
8:43am Tue 24 Mar 09
willybob wrote:The same could be said about Darwen it is full of Italians and Scots not Muslims.
Blondie wrote: This country, being England.is it england we are in.i did wonder where we were seen as how iv just got back from accrington town centre and theres thousands of muslims marching thro the streets shouting there heads off and holding up banners.
tccharmer, Playa San Juan says...
12:23pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Blondie wrote:Hi Blondie, The Italian population you mention and the Scots, why so many.
willybob wrote:The same could be said about Darwen it is full of Italians and Scots not Muslims.
Blondie wrote: This country, being England.is it england we are in.i did wonder where we were seen as how iv just got back from accrington town centre and theres thousands of muslims marching thro the streets shouting there heads off and holding up banners.
I wonder what the Australians, New Zealanders and Canadians say about the English?
Blondie, says...
4:50pm Tue 24 Mar 09
tccharmer, Playa San Juan says...
6:02pm Tue 24 Mar 09
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LadyB28, Lancashire says...
8:48am Fri 20 Mar 09