Blackburn Rovers spent £1.6m on agents' fees last season

Rovers spent £1.6m on agents' fees last season

Rovers spent £1.6m on agents' fees last season

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BLACKBURN Rovers spent £1.6m on agents’ fees last season – nearly £2m less than in 2012-13 but still the second highest amount in the Football League for 2013-14.

Figures released by the League showed that Rovers paid £1,681,080 to agents across 83 transactions between July 1, 2013 and June 30, 2014.

Only Championship rivals QPR spent more.

The Hoops, who won promotion to the Premier League through the play-offs, splashed out £1,814,550 to agents across 58 transactions.

Wigan Athletic (£1,656,445 across 70 transactions) and Reading (£1,460,460 across 57 transactions) also shelled out more than £1m to agents.

Rovers were involved in 48 new registrations/transfers and 21 loans last season as they reshaped their squad.

They also updated eight and cancelled six contracts.

Only Bournemouth (£709,231) and Birmingham City (£407,250) were involved in more transactions (89 and 85 respectively).

Leicester City and Burnley, who won automatic promotion to the top flight, spent £343,900 and £327,790 on agents across 30 and 42 transactions respectively.

All 24 Championship clubs committed to pay agents’ fees last season with the total amounting to £14.7m, a 21 per cent fall compared to the previous year (£18.5m).

Rovers, who paid £3.5m to agents across 79 transactions in the 2012-13 season, declined to comment.

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11:44am Fri 29 Aug 14

bring back the good old days says...

Irrespective of who spent most/least. What this illustrates (when packaged altogether) is that in this day and age there are many 'creaming off' the grossly generous 'proceeds' of the modern game. This in reward for making their charges far more wealthy than they dreamt, or deserve.
And the vultures will remain nibbling at the carcass until it is finally down to its bare bones. Then scatter off for some better feedings elsewhere.
Meanwhile the dedicated supporter is left scraping together the monies in order to spectate at the 'spectacle'.
Cynical.....yes.
Irrespective of who spent most/least. What this illustrates (when packaged altogether) is that in this day and age there are many 'creaming off' the grossly generous 'proceeds' of the modern game. This in reward for making their charges far more wealthy than they dreamt, or deserve. And the vultures will remain nibbling at the carcass until it is finally down to its bare bones. Then scatter off for some better feedings elsewhere. Meanwhile the dedicated supporter is left scraping together the monies in order to spectate at the 'spectacle'. Cynical.....yes. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 11

11:57am Fri 29 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it. greenscreener
  • Score: 14

12:08pm Fri 29 Aug 14

A Darener says...

All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.
All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract. A Darener
  • Score: 6

12:09pm Fri 29 Aug 14

A Darener says...

That should read "footballer"
That should read "footballer" A Darener
  • Score: 1

12:33pm Fri 29 Aug 14

bburnrover says...

Its scandolous how these people sponge off players and clubs there should be an "in house" system for all clubs.
Its scandolous how these people sponge off players and clubs there should be an "in house" system for all clubs. bburnrover
  • Score: 3

12:34pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Rover47 says...

So we have given almost £10 million to agents in three seasons, which perhaps gives some indication of how we were taken to the cleaners by
one JA and friends. Little wonder we are in such a mess. But what puzzles me is why it still cost us £1.68million last season.
So we have given almost £10 million to agents in three seasons, which perhaps gives some indication of how we were taken to the cleaners by one JA and friends. Little wonder we are in such a mess. But what puzzles me is why it still cost us £1.68million last season. Rover47
  • Score: 6

12:38pm Fri 29 Aug 14

J.C - Rishton says...

greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Yes but it still shows they are WORSE than 19 other owners in the division who spent LESS then Venkys with the agent fultures.

When we spent £4.7m - yes they were being terribly advised (their fault, not anyone else's - when you own a business its your responability to appoint the correct employee's/advisors no-one elses) and they were spending that money on much more expense players/deals.

Christ, talk about wearing "rovers tinted specs" - try taking them off then you can see the world how it really is, not how you want it to be.

What this and the accounts yesterday show is that Venkys may have improved as owners but only slightly - far less than the majority of happy clappy sheep on here make out.

They are still in the worst 3 or 4 owners in this division - and that takes some doing given the amount of nut case owners there are in this poxy division.

They have been our owners for 4 years and this clearly shows they have learned very little in this time in their dealings with agents - ONLY doing deals cheaper than 1 team - a team that can now afford to waste money on these leaches as they won a £120 promotion jackpot - we just heaped another £1.6m on our DEBT MOUNTAIN !!
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Yes but it still shows they are WORSE than 19 other owners in the division who spent LESS then Venkys with the agent fultures. When we spent £4.7m - yes they were being terribly advised (their fault, not anyone else's - when you own a business its your responability to appoint the correct employee's/advisors no-one elses) and they were spending that money on much more expense players/deals. Christ, talk about wearing "rovers tinted specs" - try taking them off then you can see the world how it really is, not how you want it to be. What this and the accounts yesterday show is that Venkys may have improved as owners but only slightly - far less than the majority of happy clappy sheep on here make out. They are still in the worst 3 or 4 owners in this division - and that takes some doing given the amount of nut case owners there are in this poxy division. They have been our owners for 4 years and this clearly shows they have learned very little in this time in their dealings with agents - ONLY doing deals cheaper than 1 team - a team that can now afford to waste money on these leaches as they won a £120 promotion jackpot - we just heaped another £1.6m on our DEBT MOUNTAIN !! J.C - Rishton
  • Score: -1

12:47pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem. Bazzer
  • Score: -3

1:01pm Fri 29 Aug 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

That's more like it and should be a lot less next year.
That's more like it and should be a lot less next year. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 2

1:08pm Fri 29 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

Thanks for that little tantrum, now tell me what I've said that was actually wrong.

Do you dispute the figures ?
Do you dispute that reducing such costs is moving in the right direction ?
Do you think such a mess that took 2.5 years of chaos to create can be cleared up quickly ?

Unlike you I do not drag up every old preconception to justify having another go at the club, I commented simply on the facts.

I certainly don't need a lecture from you on the real world, I'm still participating in it, unlike some who choose to retreat to their armchair and hide behind a keyboard when things get difficult.
Thanks for that little tantrum, now tell me what I've said that was actually wrong. Do you dispute the figures ? Do you dispute that reducing such costs is moving in the right direction ? Do you think such a mess that took 2.5 years of chaos to create can be cleared up quickly ? Unlike you I do not drag up every old preconception to justify having another go at the club, I commented simply on the facts. I certainly don't need a lecture from you on the real world, I'm still participating in it, unlike some who choose to retreat to their armchair and hide behind a keyboard when things get difficult. greenscreener
  • Score: 4

1:12pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Nuttall Street says...

A Darener wrote:
That should read "footballer"
That's why footballers (and folks from Darwen) need agents.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: That should read "footballer"[/p][/quote]That's why footballers (and folks from Darwen) need agents. Nuttall Street
  • Score: 2

1:12pm Fri 29 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

greenscreener wrote:
Thanks for that little tantrum, now tell me what I've said that was actually wrong.

Do you dispute the figures ?
Do you dispute that reducing such costs is moving in the right direction ?
Do you think such a mess that took 2.5 years of chaos to create can be cleared up quickly ?

Unlike you I do not drag up every old preconception to justify having another go at the club, I commented simply on the facts.

I certainly don't need a lecture from you on the real world, I'm still participating in it, unlike some who choose to retreat to their armchair and hide behind a keyboard when things get difficult.
That was of course meant for J.C, not Bazzer, who has nothing worth a reply.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Thanks for that little tantrum, now tell me what I've said that was actually wrong. Do you dispute the figures ? Do you dispute that reducing such costs is moving in the right direction ? Do you think such a mess that took 2.5 years of chaos to create can be cleared up quickly ? Unlike you I do not drag up every old preconception to justify having another go at the club, I commented simply on the facts. I certainly don't need a lecture from you on the real world, I'm still participating in it, unlike some who choose to retreat to their armchair and hide behind a keyboard when things get difficult.[/p][/quote]That was of course meant for J.C, not Bazzer, who has nothing worth a reply. greenscreener
  • Score: -1

1:13pm Fri 29 Aug 14

AllRhodesLeadToGlory says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.'

Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID.
Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties!
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.' Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID. Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties! AllRhodesLeadToGlory
  • Score: 7

1:17pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Truerover85 says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Yes but it still shows they are WORSE than 19 other owners in the division who spent LESS then Venkys with the agent fultures.

When we spent £4.7m - yes they were being terribly advised (their fault, not anyone else's - when you own a business its your responability to appoint the correct employee's/advisors no-one elses) and they were spending that money on much more expense players/deals.

Christ, talk about wearing "rovers tinted specs" - try taking them off then you can see the world how it really is, not how you want it to be.

What this and the accounts yesterday show is that Venkys may have improved as owners but only slightly - far less than the majority of happy clappy sheep on here make out.

They are still in the worst 3 or 4 owners in this division - and that takes some doing given the amount of nut case owners there are in this poxy division.

They have been our owners for 4 years and this clearly shows they have learned very little in this time in their dealings with agents - ONLY doing deals cheaper than 1 team - a team that can now afford to waste money on these leaches as they won a £120 promotion jackpot - we just heaped another £1.6m on our DEBT MOUNTAIN !!
I think allot of these agents fees will be paying off players who were brought during the kean era. i.e best, campbell, etc.

These thing were already in place prior to the new advisers were implamented!
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Yes but it still shows they are WORSE than 19 other owners in the division who spent LESS then Venkys with the agent fultures. When we spent £4.7m - yes they were being terribly advised (their fault, not anyone else's - when you own a business its your responability to appoint the correct employee's/advisors no-one elses) and they were spending that money on much more expense players/deals. Christ, talk about wearing "rovers tinted specs" - try taking them off then you can see the world how it really is, not how you want it to be. What this and the accounts yesterday show is that Venkys may have improved as owners but only slightly - far less than the majority of happy clappy sheep on here make out. They are still in the worst 3 or 4 owners in this division - and that takes some doing given the amount of nut case owners there are in this poxy division. They have been our owners for 4 years and this clearly shows they have learned very little in this time in their dealings with agents - ONLY doing deals cheaper than 1 team - a team that can now afford to waste money on these leaches as they won a £120 promotion jackpot - we just heaped another £1.6m on our DEBT MOUNTAIN !![/p][/quote]I think allot of these agents fees will be paying off players who were brought during the kean era. i.e best, campbell, etc. These thing were already in place prior to the new advisers were implamented! Truerover85
  • Score: 2

1:22pm Fri 29 Aug 14

A Darener says...

AllRhodesLeadToGlory wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.'

Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID.
Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties!
Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc.
Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.
[quote][p][bold]AllRhodesLeadToGlory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.' Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID. Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties![/p][/quote]Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc. Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon. A Darener
  • Score: -1

1:28pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Still a Wild Rover says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
greenscreener wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Yes but it still shows they are WORSE than 19 other owners in the division who spent LESS then Venkys with the agent fultures. When we spent £4.7m - yes they were being terribly advised (their fault, not anyone else's - when you own a business its your responability to appoint the correct employee's/advisors no-one elses) and they were spending that money on much more expense players/deals. Christ, talk about wearing "rovers tinted specs" - try taking them off then you can see the world how it really is, not how you want it to be. What this and the accounts yesterday show is that Venkys may have improved as owners but only slightly - far less than the majority of happy clappy sheep on here make out. They are still in the worst 3 or 4 owners in this division - and that takes some doing given the amount of nut case owners there are in this poxy division. They have been our owners for 4 years and this clearly shows they have learned very little in this time in their dealings with agents - ONLY doing deals cheaper than 1 team - a team that can now afford to waste money on these leaches as they won a £120 promotion jackpot - we just heaped another £1.6m on our DEBT MOUNTAIN !!
You dont like them then??
Well as one of the sheep, and lacking your mighty intellect, I agree with GS
Sure they made a mess, but at least they are accepting responsibility for it and staying around to clean it up when they could easily have cut and run!
Which makes them a darn sight more honourable than some racist half wits that post on here and think they know everything but actually know f'all
By the way JC , what IS your solution to Rovers problems? I have asked before but you don't seem to have an actual answer....
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Yes but it still shows they are WORSE than 19 other owners in the division who spent LESS then Venkys with the agent fultures. When we spent £4.7m - yes they were being terribly advised (their fault, not anyone else's - when you own a business its your responability to appoint the correct employee's/advisors no-one elses) and they were spending that money on much more expense players/deals. Christ, talk about wearing "rovers tinted specs" - try taking them off then you can see the world how it really is, not how you want it to be. What this and the accounts yesterday show is that Venkys may have improved as owners but only slightly - far less than the majority of happy clappy sheep on here make out. They are still in the worst 3 or 4 owners in this division - and that takes some doing given the amount of nut case owners there are in this poxy division. They have been our owners for 4 years and this clearly shows they have learned very little in this time in their dealings with agents - ONLY doing deals cheaper than 1 team - a team that can now afford to waste money on these leaches as they won a £120 promotion jackpot - we just heaped another £1.6m on our DEBT MOUNTAIN !![/p][/quote]You dont like them then?? Well as one of the sheep, and lacking your mighty intellect, I agree with GS Sure they made a mess, but at least they are accepting responsibility for it and staying around to clean it up when they could easily have cut and run! Which makes them a darn sight more honourable than some racist half wits that post on here and think they know everything but actually know f'all By the way JC , what IS your solution to Rovers problems? I have asked before but you don't seem to have an actual answer.... Still a Wild Rover
  • Score: 4

1:29pm Fri 29 Aug 14

rover4life says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
If they are fickle enough to jump ship then I for one will not miss them,
Proper supporters stick with their club whatever and you tend to find it is the drifters who don't really care who shout loudest about outrage when times are at their hardest.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]If they are fickle enough to jump ship then I for one will not miss them, Proper supporters stick with their club whatever and you tend to find it is the drifters who don't really care who shout loudest about outrage when times are at their hardest. rover4life
  • Score: 3

1:34pm Fri 29 Aug 14

tall in the saddle says...

A Darener wrote:
All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.
I totally agree with you but its like the state of the country and South Yorkshire police, we’re all against what’s going on but what we can do about it? I would think the clubs are the ones who could bring about some change to get rid of these leeches, but maybe that is too simplistic. And the players could complain but if they weren’t getting paid they would soon change their tune. It’s all about money now. Better going to Bacup Borough.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you but its like the state of the country and South Yorkshire police, we’re all against what’s going on but what we can do about it? I would think the clubs are the ones who could bring about some change to get rid of these leeches, but maybe that is too simplistic. And the players could complain but if they weren’t getting paid they would soon change their tune. It’s all about money now. Better going to Bacup Borough. tall in the saddle
  • Score: -1

1:39pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Rovers.1875 says...

A Darener wrote:
AllRhodesLeadToGlory wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.'

Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID.
Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties!
Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc.
Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.
True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going...

For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AllRhodesLeadToGlory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.' Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID. Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties![/p][/quote]Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc. Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.[/p][/quote]True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going... For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away Rovers.1875
  • Score: 4

1:41pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Rovers.1875 says...

On the note of agents, they should be paid by the players, would bring a harsh reality to the player and the agent immediately
On the note of agents, they should be paid by the players, would bring a harsh reality to the player and the agent immediately Rovers.1875
  • Score: 3

2:05pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Still a Wild Rover says...

Rovers.1875 wrote:
On the note of agents, they should be paid by the players, would bring a harsh reality to the player and the agent immediately
Good post and probably the best solution, why should the clubs pay them?
[quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote: On the note of agents, they should be paid by the players, would bring a harsh reality to the player and the agent immediately[/p][/quote]Good post and probably the best solution, why should the clubs pay them? Still a Wild Rover
  • Score: 1

2:44pm Fri 29 Aug 14

owd nick says...

I think some of you are looking at this the wrong way, you are taking everything a face value as presented in a limited format, please bear with me before you kick off.

A simple calculation based on the amount paid out divided by the number of transactions shows a totally different picture.

A League table showing the transaction costs as an average out of the sample clubs presented.

1 - QPR £31,285 per transaction.
2 - Reading £25,622
3 - Wigan £23,633
4 - Rovers £20,254

I am not going to do it but I would hazard a guess that Rovers would drop a tad further down this table if all the other clubs that haven't been included in the article were to be so.

Ok, in the terms of you or I these figures are eyewateringly high, but agents are a fact of life in football as well as many other fields, they aren't going to go away anytime soon.

Then look at the figure for Rovers for the 2012 - 13 season £44,304, more than double what it is now.

That indicates that Rovers are slowly getting their house in order, I say indicates because other key factors like contracted salaries are not taken into account in this report - (article) and it is always dangerous to cherry pick figures that suit an agenda (the media are brilliant at this) then assume based on what is in the great scheme of things something of a minor embuggerance.
I think some of you are looking at this the wrong way, you are taking everything a face value as presented in a limited format, please bear with me before you kick off. A simple calculation based on the amount paid out divided by the number of transactions shows a totally different picture. A League table showing the transaction costs as an average out of the sample clubs presented. 1 - QPR £31,285 per transaction. 2 - Reading £25,622 3 - Wigan £23,633 4 - Rovers £20,254 I am not going to do it but I would hazard a guess that Rovers would drop a tad further down this table if all the other clubs that haven't been included in the article were to be so. Ok, in the terms of you or I these figures are eyewateringly high, but agents are a fact of life in football as well as many other fields, they aren't going to go away anytime soon. Then look at the figure for Rovers for the 2012 - 13 season £44,304, more than double what it is now. That indicates that Rovers are slowly getting their house in order, I say indicates because other key factors like contracted salaries are not taken into account in this report - (article) and it is always dangerous to cherry pick figures that suit an agenda (the media are brilliant at this) then assume based on what is in the great scheme of things something of a minor embuggerance. owd nick
  • Score: 1

2:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

owd nick says...

A Darener wrote:
All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.
Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.[/p][/quote]Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-) owd nick
  • Score: 1

2:50pm Fri 29 Aug 14

A Darener says...

At least he would have been cheap!
At least he would have been cheap! A Darener
  • Score: 1

2:56pm Fri 29 Aug 14

owd nick says...

A Darener wrote:
At least he would have been cheap!
As Chips perhaps....
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: At least he would have been cheap![/p][/quote]As Chips perhaps.... owd nick
  • Score: 1

3:37pm Fri 29 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

owd nick wrote:
I think some of you are looking at this the wrong way, you are taking everything a face value as presented in a limited format, please bear with me before you kick off.

A simple calculation based on the amount paid out divided by the number of transactions shows a totally different picture.

A League table showing the transaction costs as an average out of the sample clubs presented.

1 - QPR £31,285 per transaction.
2 - Reading £25,622
3 - Wigan £23,633
4 - Rovers £20,254

I am not going to do it but I would hazard a guess that Rovers would drop a tad further down this table if all the other clubs that haven't been included in the article were to be so.

Ok, in the terms of you or I these figures are eyewateringly high, but agents are a fact of life in football as well as many other fields, they aren't going to go away anytime soon.

Then look at the figure for Rovers for the 2012 - 13 season £44,304, more than double what it is now.

That indicates that Rovers are slowly getting their house in order, I say indicates because other key factors like contracted salaries are not taken into account in this report - (article) and it is always dangerous to cherry pick figures that suit an agenda (the media are brilliant at this) then assume based on what is in the great scheme of things something of a minor embuggerance.
Nick, you are right, the fact that we are having to rebuild the squad drags us into having more transactions, but the average payment is not untypical.

RTID.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: I think some of you are looking at this the wrong way, you are taking everything a face value as presented in a limited format, please bear with me before you kick off. A simple calculation based on the amount paid out divided by the number of transactions shows a totally different picture. A League table showing the transaction costs as an average out of the sample clubs presented. 1 - QPR £31,285 per transaction. 2 - Reading £25,622 3 - Wigan £23,633 4 - Rovers £20,254 I am not going to do it but I would hazard a guess that Rovers would drop a tad further down this table if all the other clubs that haven't been included in the article were to be so. Ok, in the terms of you or I these figures are eyewateringly high, but agents are a fact of life in football as well as many other fields, they aren't going to go away anytime soon. Then look at the figure for Rovers for the 2012 - 13 season £44,304, more than double what it is now. That indicates that Rovers are slowly getting their house in order, I say indicates because other key factors like contracted salaries are not taken into account in this report - (article) and it is always dangerous to cherry pick figures that suit an agenda (the media are brilliant at this) then assume based on what is in the great scheme of things something of a minor embuggerance.[/p][/quote]Nick, you are right, the fact that we are having to rebuild the squad drags us into having more transactions, but the average payment is not untypical. RTID. greenscreener
  • Score: 2

3:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Rover47 says...

owd nick wrote:
A Darener wrote:
All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.
Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)
No different to any other employee. Some can negotiate a good contract, some can't. That doesn't give the weak ones the right to ask an agent to hold their future employer to ransom.

I agree, if they want an agent then pay him themselves. Why should the clubs have to foot the extortionate bill?

And, come to that, who decided the clubs would have to pay in the first place? Wait for it - yes, the agents! They’ve blackmailed the clubs from day one – and the clubs have meekly succumbed. Now they should all get together and put a stop to it forthwith. One club – not sure which -- is flatly refusing to pay agents. The rest should follow their lead.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.[/p][/quote]Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)[/p][/quote]No different to any other employee. Some can negotiate a good contract, some can't. That doesn't give the weak ones the right to ask an agent to hold their future employer to ransom. I agree, if they want an agent then pay him themselves. Why should the clubs have to foot the extortionate bill? And, come to that, who decided the clubs would have to pay in the first place? Wait for it - yes, the agents! They’ve blackmailed the clubs from day one – and the clubs have meekly succumbed. Now they should all get together and put a stop to it forthwith. One club – not sure which -- is flatly refusing to pay agents. The rest should follow their lead. Rover47
  • Score: 0

4:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14

owd nick says...

Rover47 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
A Darener wrote:
All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.
Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)
No different to any other employee. Some can negotiate a good contract, some can't. That doesn't give the weak ones the right to ask an agent to hold their future employer to ransom.

I agree, if they want an agent then pay him themselves. Why should the clubs have to foot the extortionate bill?

And, come to that, who decided the clubs would have to pay in the first place? Wait for it - yes, the agents! They’ve blackmailed the clubs from day one – and the clubs have meekly succumbed. Now they should all get together and put a stop to it forthwith. One club – not sure which -- is flatly refusing to pay agents. The rest should follow their lead.
Not sure but I suspect that agents fees also include legal fees, management fees and possibly a plethora of other add ons.

And as far as I am aware agents take a cut of whatever the person they are representing earns, whether they are actors, cricketers, rugby players, golfers, tennis players.....or footballers.

Don't disagree with you but I think clubs are cuter these days and managing the situation better, simply because they now have to account for every penny.

The club you are on about might be Luton Town.
[quote][p][bold]Rover47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.[/p][/quote]Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)[/p][/quote]No different to any other employee. Some can negotiate a good contract, some can't. That doesn't give the weak ones the right to ask an agent to hold their future employer to ransom. I agree, if they want an agent then pay him themselves. Why should the clubs have to foot the extortionate bill? And, come to that, who decided the clubs would have to pay in the first place? Wait for it - yes, the agents! They’ve blackmailed the clubs from day one – and the clubs have meekly succumbed. Now they should all get together and put a stop to it forthwith. One club – not sure which -- is flatly refusing to pay agents. The rest should follow their lead.[/p][/quote]Not sure but I suspect that agents fees also include legal fees, management fees and possibly a plethora of other add ons. And as far as I am aware agents take a cut of whatever the person they are representing earns, whether they are actors, cricketers, rugby players, golfers, tennis players.....or footballers. Don't disagree with you but I think clubs are cuter these days and managing the situation better, simply because they now have to account for every penny. The club you are on about might be Luton Town. owd nick
  • Score: 0

4:34pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Rover47 says...

owd nick wrote:
Rover47 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
A Darener wrote:
All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.
Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)
No different to any other employee. Some can negotiate a good contract, some can't. That doesn't give the weak ones the right to ask an agent to hold their future employer to ransom.

I agree, if they want an agent then pay him themselves. Why should the clubs have to foot the extortionate bill?

And, come to that, who decided the clubs would have to pay in the first place? Wait for it - yes, the agents! They’ve blackmailed the clubs from day one – and the clubs have meekly succumbed. Now they should all get together and put a stop to it forthwith. One club – not sure which -- is flatly refusing to pay agents. The rest should follow their lead.
Not sure but I suspect that agents fees also include legal fees, management fees and possibly a plethora of other add ons.

And as far as I am aware agents take a cut of whatever the person they are representing earns, whether they are actors, cricketers, rugby players, golfers, tennis players.....or footballers.

Don't disagree with you but I think clubs are cuter these days and managing the situation better, simply because they now have to account for every penny.

The club you are on about might be Luton Town.
Hi O.N. Always enjoy your comments. Not sure about agents 'taking a cut'. I think their 'fee' includes a percentage of the transfer fee and earnings - paid by the club.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.[/p][/quote]Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)[/p][/quote]No different to any other employee. Some can negotiate a good contract, some can't. That doesn't give the weak ones the right to ask an agent to hold their future employer to ransom. I agree, if they want an agent then pay him themselves. Why should the clubs have to foot the extortionate bill? And, come to that, who decided the clubs would have to pay in the first place? Wait for it - yes, the agents! They’ve blackmailed the clubs from day one – and the clubs have meekly succumbed. Now they should all get together and put a stop to it forthwith. One club – not sure which -- is flatly refusing to pay agents. The rest should follow their lead.[/p][/quote]Not sure but I suspect that agents fees also include legal fees, management fees and possibly a plethora of other add ons. And as far as I am aware agents take a cut of whatever the person they are representing earns, whether they are actors, cricketers, rugby players, golfers, tennis players.....or footballers. Don't disagree with you but I think clubs are cuter these days and managing the situation better, simply because they now have to account for every penny. The club you are on about might be Luton Town.[/p][/quote]Hi O.N. Always enjoy your comments. Not sure about agents 'taking a cut'. I think their 'fee' includes a percentage of the transfer fee and earnings - paid by the club. Rover47
  • Score: 0

4:43pm Fri 29 Aug 14

owd nick says...

Just picking up on Twitter we have signed Shane Duffy (centre half) from Everton for around £1.5 million, probably won't be able to play tomorrow.
Just picking up on Twitter we have signed Shane Duffy (centre half) from Everton for around £1.5 million, probably won't be able to play tomorrow. owd nick
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Fri 29 Aug 14

bluenick says...

owd nick wrote:
A Darener wrote:
All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.
Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)
Yep! And I know one who ended up with a pay cut! Bet the late Bill Fox was pleased!!!!
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: All agents should be banned! Let the football negotiate his own contract.[/p][/quote]Sorry Darener, these contracts are quite complex and although I would never assume that all current players are like this I used to know one ex professional player who would have struggled to negotiate his way out of a crisp packet. :-)[/p][/quote]Yep! And I know one who ended up with a pay cut! Bet the late Bill Fox was pleased!!!! bluenick
  • Score: 0

8:00pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Bazzer says...

Rovers.1875 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
AllRhodesLeadToGlory wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.'

Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID.
Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties!
Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc.
Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.
True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going...

For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away
I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys.
Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AllRhodesLeadToGlory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.' Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID. Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties![/p][/quote]Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc. Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.[/p][/quote]True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going... For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away[/p][/quote]I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys. Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute. Bazzer
  • Score: -1

8:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

Bazzer wrote:
Rovers.1875 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
AllRhodesLeadToGlory wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.'

Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID.
Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties!
Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc.
Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.
True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going...

For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away
I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys.
Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.
Oh dear, You really should read my posts Bazzer, like JC, you can't refute the points I make so you have to invent something to criticise me for.

Show me where I accept or condone agents, I was commenting on the figures, I made no comment on the ethics or morals of those involved.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AllRhodesLeadToGlory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.' Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID. Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties![/p][/quote]Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc. Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.[/p][/quote]True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going... For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away[/p][/quote]I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys. Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, You really should read my posts Bazzer, like JC, you can't refute the points I make so you have to invent something to criticise me for. Show me where I accept or condone agents, I was commenting on the figures, I made no comment on the ethics or morals of those involved. greenscreener
  • Score: 2

8:45pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Rovers.1875 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
AllRhodesLeadToGlory wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.'

Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID.
Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties!
Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc.
Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.
True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going...

For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away
I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys.
Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.
Oh dear, You really should read my posts Bazzer, like JC, you can't refute the points I make so you have to invent something to criticise me for.

Show me where I accept or condone agents, I was commenting on the figures, I made no comment on the ethics or morals of those involved.
And if you read mine, nowhere is it said that you actually accept or condone. You should practise what you preach.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AllRhodesLeadToGlory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.' Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID. Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties![/p][/quote]Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc. Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.[/p][/quote]True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going... For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away[/p][/quote]I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys. Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, You really should read my posts Bazzer, like JC, you can't refute the points I make so you have to invent something to criticise me for. Show me where I accept or condone agents, I was commenting on the figures, I made no comment on the ethics or morals of those involved.[/p][/quote]And if you read mine, nowhere is it said that you actually accept or condone. You should practise what you preach. Bazzer
  • Score: -2

10:50pm Fri 29 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

What a shambles. We deserve everything that's coming to us.

Disgraceful. Embarrassed to be associated with Blackburn Rovers.

OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS!
What a shambles. We deserve everything that's coming to us. Disgraceful. Embarrassed to be associated with Blackburn Rovers. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS! TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -3

11:39pm Fri 29 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Rovers.1875 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
AllRhodesLeadToGlory wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.'

Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID.
Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties!
Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc.
Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.
True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going...

For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away
I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys.
Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.
Oh dear, You really should read my posts Bazzer, like JC, you can't refute the points I make so you have to invent something to criticise me for.

Show me where I accept or condone agents, I was commenting on the figures, I made no comment on the ethics or morals of those involved.
And if you read mine, nowhere is it said that you actually accept or condone. You should practise what you preach.
I did, the inference of the term ' may ' is quite clear.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AllRhodesLeadToGlory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.' Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID. Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties![/p][/quote]Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc. Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.[/p][/quote]True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going... For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away[/p][/quote]I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys. Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, You really should read my posts Bazzer, like JC, you can't refute the points I make so you have to invent something to criticise me for. Show me where I accept or condone agents, I was commenting on the figures, I made no comment on the ethics or morals of those involved.[/p][/quote]And if you read mine, nowhere is it said that you actually accept or condone. You should practise what you preach.[/p][/quote]I did, the inference of the term ' may ' is quite clear. greenscreener
  • Score: 3

8:36am Sat 30 Aug 14

A Darener says...

TMT......your NOT associated with the Rovers in any way shape or form!
TMT......your NOT associated with the Rovers in any way shape or form! A Darener
  • Score: 3

10:58am Sat 30 Aug 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

This all means nothing, they haven't improved a thing.
Your agent gets paid a percentage commission, you sell Ferrari's, Lamborghini's and Porsche s, the agents make massive fees. you start to sell turds instead, guess what happens, go figure.
This all means nothing, they haven't improved a thing. Your agent gets paid a percentage commission, you sell Ferrari's, Lamborghini's and Porsche s, the agents make massive fees. you start to sell turds instead, guess what happens, go figure. AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -2

8:51pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Rovers.1875 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
AllRhodesLeadToGlory wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits.

In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m.

This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.
Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.
'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.'

Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID.
Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties!
Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc.
Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.
True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going...

For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away
I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys.
Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.
Oh dear, You really should read my posts Bazzer, like JC, you can't refute the points I make so you have to invent something to criticise me for.

Show me where I accept or condone agents, I was commenting on the figures, I made no comment on the ethics or morals of those involved.
And if you read mine, nowhere is it said that you actually accept or condone. You should practise what you preach.
I did, the inference of the term ' may ' is quite clear.
Not as bright as you portray yourself are you?
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AllRhodesLeadToGlory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: What these figures actually reveal is that things are becoming better controlled since the owners started to get advice from football people rather than Agents or third rate TV Pundits. In Venkys first year in charge this spend was almost £4.7m. This year to June 30th, at £1.6m, well down on last years £3.5m, is another step in the right direction and demonstrates that cleaning up a mess takes longer than creating it.[/p][/quote]Absolute drivel. The wound may not be as deep but it is still life threatening. What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.[/p][/quote]'What it shows is a scenario which puts many Rovers supporters in the position of being so incensed they think about jumping ship and following other clubs........and that is the problem.' Once a Rovers fan, always a Rovers! RTID. Sick of reading absolute tosh on here. If you're not in it for all your life, don't bother following the team. Ups, Downs, Highs and Lows. I have followed the club for 28 years, since I was old enough to go Ewood, at time we were a lowly Division 2 team, struggling. I never once felt in 1999 when we got relegated, that I am going to support another team. How can you support another one??? People need to sort out there loyalties![/p][/quote]Agreed once a Rovers fan.....etc. But! It doesn't mean we who have stopped attending the games are no longer Rovers fans, we are just not supporters I.e. We do not support the owners by putting money in their pocket to waste on agents etc. Once they prove they can return the club to the way it was before they arrived and I don't just mean back in the PL I mean run correctly, then many will return to Ewood Park and lend their support directly to the team. Let that day be soon.[/p][/quote]True fans will go to the game because they love watching their own teams play week in week out, but I suppose you don't have to go to the games to be a fan... Most of the stay aways will actually come back when we get back to the PL, not saying that this is why you are not going... For me, it's been a tough couple of years out of the 26 years supporting the club since I first watched them at 5yr old... But I'm actually enjoying the football down there every week now, so couldn't possibly think of a reason to stay away[/p][/quote]I agree with what you say. I am merely saying there are quite a few alienated Rovers supporters and our gates prove that. You only have to look at the team we play tomorrow and observe some of their unbelievably low gates in the Bhatti era. And the Bhatti era started out with success and promotion, unlike the Venkys. Surely there is a downturn in football interest across the spectrum anyway? A lousy England Team, a Premiership dominated by obscene foreign money and players wages which defy understanding. And to top it all these scandalous "agents fees". Greenscreamer may accept and appear to condone it but I harbour a strong dislike, along with many others not so starry eyed. But I follow Rovers, and there is no substitute.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, You really should read my posts Bazzer, like JC, you can't refute the points I make so you have to invent something to criticise me for. Show me where I accept or condone agents, I was commenting on the figures, I made no comment on the ethics or morals of those involved.[/p][/quote]And if you read mine, nowhere is it said that you actually accept or condone. You should practise what you preach.[/p][/quote]I did, the inference of the term ' may ' is quite clear.[/p][/quote]Not as bright as you portray yourself are you? Bazzer
  • Score: -3

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