Paul Wheelock column: Cup exit left bad taste in the mouth

Luke Varney and Co failed to impress on Tuesday

Luke Varney and Co failed to impress on Tuesday

First published in Sport This Is Lancashire: Photograph of the Author by , Blackburn Rovers reporter

SHOULD we be surprised that Rovers crashed out of the League Cup to lower-division opposition?

Not really given the club’s wretched recent record in the competition.

Were Rovers alone in succumbing to a shock first-round exit?

Not at all with Championship rivals Wigan, Ipswich, Wolves and Saturday’s opponents Blackpool also falling to teams they should be beating.

But does that mean we should brush what happened on Tuesday night under the carpet and forget that it ever happened?

Absolutely not.

Primarily because that would be an insult to the 4,801 Rovers supporters who handed over their hard-earned to watch a second string side produce a distinctly second rate performance.

But, if you take the match in isolation, it also raises serious questions about the true strength Gary Bowyer has in depth.

It would be unfair to write off the players who started the desperately disappointing defeat to Scunthorpe as not good enough full stop.

But it would be fair to say that, put together into the same starting XI, they would not be good enough to challenge for the top spots in the Championship.

And, most damningly, on Tuesday they were not good enough to get the better of a team who, let’s not forget, were playing in League Two last season.

Bowyer, as the club’s manager, ultimately carries the can as it was his decision to make wholesale changes, a decision which backfired badly.

But the Rovers boss, who pulled no punches and offered no excuses afterwards, was right to have expected better from the men he named in his line-up.

Any side can have an off day but the lack of passion, lack of tempo and lack of ideas – well at least until Craig Conway, Rudy Gestede and Tom Cairney came on – on display was inexcusable.

Exiting the competition was bad enough but doing so with such a whimper left a bad taste in the mouth.

It has also put an unnecessary pressure on Saturday’s league encounter at Blackpool.

A very different Rovers team will be expected to offer an immediate response against a Tangerines team who have had the most turbulent of summers.

Victory at Bloomfield Road will go a way to erasing the memories of the loss to Scunthorpe.

But a defeat will only serve further to dent the optimism – optimism which Bowyer and his squad have worked so hard to build up over the past 15 months – that has made a welcome return to Ewood Park.

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3:42pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

Wasn't surprised at all - only that the scoreline wasn't greater in favour of lowly Scunthorpe......
Wasn't surprised at all - only that the scoreline wasn't greater in favour of lowly Scunthorpe...... Its Only a game boy
  • Score: -16

4:09pm Thu 14 Aug 14

crankitup says...

Paul...you are right in thinking that Gary did expect more from the players HE selected.....and right that it left a bad taste in the mouth (to say the least) but Gary should have known exactly what the players HE selected where capable of and the fact is HE expected Scunthorpe to roll over....but HE as manager should have known that in this league as in others that doesn't happen.

we buy three season tickets a year at a cost of over £700 and then we pay extra for cup matches (which we accept) just like we expect NOT to be fobbed off with a team of players that seemingly did not give a s*it about the fans that pay their wages just as long as they get paid....

i'm still awaiting an apology from THE MANAGER....not a player that has seemingly been put up to taking the heat off the decision maker...

WELL GARY?
Paul...you are right in thinking that Gary did expect more from the players HE selected.....and right that it left a bad taste in the mouth (to say the least) but Gary should have known exactly what the players HE selected where capable of and the fact is HE expected Scunthorpe to roll over....but HE as manager should have known that in this league as in others that doesn't happen. we buy three season tickets a year at a cost of over £700 and then we pay extra for cup matches (which we accept) just like we expect NOT to be fobbed off with a team of players that seemingly did not give a s*it about the fans that pay their wages just as long as they get paid.... i'm still awaiting an apology from THE MANAGER....not a player that has seemingly been put up to taking the heat off the decision maker... WELL GARY? crankitup
  • Score: 19

4:13pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

but you already have an apology for a manager......
but you already have an apology for a manager...... Its Only a game boy
  • Score: -9

4:36pm Thu 14 Aug 14

FCBurnley says...

Playing Blackpool at this stage of the season will be as easy as any game could be in the Chumpionship. Failure to win convincingly will set the Ewood alarm bells ringing. A draw or a loss is unthinkable.
Playing Blackpool at this stage of the season will be as easy as any game could be in the Chumpionship. Failure to win convincingly will set the Ewood alarm bells ringing. A draw or a loss is unthinkable. FCBurnley
  • Score: 9

4:40pm Thu 14 Aug 14

you're always complaining says...

Good article.
Good article. you're always complaining
  • Score: 0

4:56pm Thu 14 Aug 14

eddyo says...

Why are we surprised at the cup result? GB has built a squad in his own image - one that is decent, non-physical and without a winning attitude.
*
Every game (apart from testimonials) should be one a team looks to win. Maybe GB just doesn't get it.
Why are we surprised at the cup result? GB has built a squad in his own image - one that is decent, non-physical and without a winning attitude. * Every game (apart from testimonials) should be one a team looks to win. Maybe GB just doesn't get it. eddyo
  • Score: 13

5:18pm Thu 14 Aug 14

owd nick says...

Done and dusted, Wednesdays chip paper.

The next match is the most important, then the one after that and so on.

All this navel contemplating does nothing but give our detractors a bigger stick to beat us with, why? Because each of us in our own way care about the club and want it to succeed, if we didn't there wouldn't be any point.

Barring injuries we have a pretty good idea as to what the team for Saturday will be, what will be interesting is who he has on the bench.

Must win game? Doesn't matter who we are playing so only from the perspective of three points are available, because even if we were to win 6 - 0 the whingers and whiners would still have a go.

44 games to go after that one.
Done and dusted, Wednesdays chip paper. The next match is the most important, then the one after that and so on. All this navel contemplating does nothing but give our detractors a bigger stick to beat us with, why? Because each of us in our own way care about the club and want it to succeed, if we didn't there wouldn't be any point. Barring injuries we have a pretty good idea as to what the team for Saturday will be, what will be interesting is who he has on the bench. Must win game? Doesn't matter who we are playing so only from the perspective of three points are available, because even if we were to win 6 - 0 the whingers and whiners would still have a go. 44 games to go after that one. owd nick
  • Score: 10

5:23pm Thu 14 Aug 14

SuperBlues says...

The bench we have and the squad players are nowhere near the required standard to go up currently, we need another 2-3 additions and with Luke Varney the only current fit striker on the bench thats my point proven!!!
The bench we have and the squad players are nowhere near the required standard to go up currently, we need another 2-3 additions and with Luke Varney the only current fit striker on the bench thats my point proven!!! SuperBlues
  • Score: 2

5:25pm Thu 14 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Playing Blackpool at this stage of the season will be as easy as any game could be in the Chumpionship. Failure to win convincingly will set the Ewood alarm bells ringing. A draw or a loss is unthinkable.
I see your laughable Premier League status has done nothing to ease your infatuation of all things BRFC. Mind you, I suppose it's only proof (not that it was needed) that you all still have the mindset of a League 1 club supporter.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Playing Blackpool at this stage of the season will be as easy as any game could be in the Chumpionship. Failure to win convincingly will set the Ewood alarm bells ringing. A draw or a loss is unthinkable.[/p][/quote]I see your laughable Premier League status has done nothing to ease your infatuation of all things BRFC. Mind you, I suppose it's only proof (not that it was needed) that you all still have the mindset of a League 1 club supporter. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 15

5:27pm Thu 14 Aug 14

ZomZom@thePark says...

You appear to have a reasonable first XI, I watched your game with Cardiff on Sky, but that said there wasn't any evidence of having someone who could change the game in a moment. The goal was a good strike but the lad didn't appear to be the one to take the game by the scruff of its neck and no - one in a blue and white shirt looked to have it them.
You will know your team rather better than me, is there anyone out of the side at the moment you could say would carry the mantel for you?
You appear to have a reasonable first XI, I watched your game with Cardiff on Sky, but that said there wasn't any evidence of having someone who could change the game in a moment. The goal was a good strike but the lad didn't appear to be the one to take the game by the scruff of its neck and no - one in a blue and white shirt looked to have it them. You will know your team rather better than me, is there anyone out of the side at the moment you could say would carry the mantel for you? ZomZom@thePark
  • Score: 1

5:42pm Thu 14 Aug 14

owd nick says...

SuperBlues wrote:
The bench we have and the squad players are nowhere near the required standard to go up currently, we need another 2-3 additions and with Luke Varney the only current fit striker on the bench thats my point proven!!!
Sort of agree with you regarding the quality of bench and squad players solely based on Tuesday's evidence, perhaps that's why GB is reluctant to make changes, aka against Cardiff?

I don't know I'm not privy to his thoughts.

Because of FFP it's unlikely that GB could bring in 2 or 3 players, he has said time and time again that he Shaw and Venky's fully understand what is required, their hands are tied.

They have done remarkably well to retain key players like Rhodes and Cairney and have the nucleus of a decent side while clearing out a lot of players we were never going to use.

The trading figures for last season have yet to be published, these are what we will be judged on regarding FFP, we can't just go on throwing money at players because we have a bad result as previous managers and regimes have.

If we did then it's more likely that the FA will nail us for ignoring FFP, quite rightly.

Pretty certain Rovers (and other clubs) will have been talking to the idiots at the FA asking "What if" for the last 12 moths or so, whatever happens regarding FFP shouldn't be a surprise to either party.

If they haven't then they should all be sacked.
[quote][p][bold]SuperBlues[/bold] wrote: The bench we have and the squad players are nowhere near the required standard to go up currently, we need another 2-3 additions and with Luke Varney the only current fit striker on the bench thats my point proven!!![/p][/quote]Sort of agree with you regarding the quality of bench and squad players solely based on Tuesday's evidence, perhaps that's why GB is reluctant to make changes, aka against Cardiff? I don't know I'm not privy to his thoughts. Because of FFP it's unlikely that GB could bring in 2 or 3 players, he has said time and time again that he Shaw and Venky's fully understand what is required, their hands are tied. They have done remarkably well to retain key players like Rhodes and Cairney and have the nucleus of a decent side while clearing out a lot of players we were never going to use. The trading figures for last season have yet to be published, these are what we will be judged on regarding FFP, we can't just go on throwing money at players because we have a bad result as previous managers and regimes have. If we did then it's more likely that the FA will nail us for ignoring FFP, quite rightly. Pretty certain Rovers (and other clubs) will have been talking to the idiots at the FA asking "What if" for the last 12 moths or so, whatever happens regarding FFP shouldn't be a surprise to either party. If they haven't then they should all be sacked. owd nick
  • Score: 2

5:44pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Pembina says...

crankitup wrote:
Paul...you are right in thinking that Gary did expect more from the players HE selected.....and right that it left a bad taste in the mouth (to say the least) but Gary should have known exactly what the players HE selected where capable of and the fact is HE expected Scunthorpe to roll over....but HE as manager should have known that in this league as in others that doesn't happen.

we buy three season tickets a year at a cost of over £700 and then we pay extra for cup matches (which we accept) just like we expect NOT to be fobbed off with a team of players that seemingly did not give a s*it about the fans that pay their wages just as long as they get paid....

i'm still awaiting an apology from THE MANAGER....not a player that has seemingly been put up to taking the heat off the decision maker...

WELL GARY?
You make a very good point and a refund to everyone that went would not be out of place, to say I was disappointed is a understatement. Unless he puts out the strongest team possible I will never again pay to watch another league cup game
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: Paul...you are right in thinking that Gary did expect more from the players HE selected.....and right that it left a bad taste in the mouth (to say the least) but Gary should have known exactly what the players HE selected where capable of and the fact is HE expected Scunthorpe to roll over....but HE as manager should have known that in this league as in others that doesn't happen. we buy three season tickets a year at a cost of over £700 and then we pay extra for cup matches (which we accept) just like we expect NOT to be fobbed off with a team of players that seemingly did not give a s*it about the fans that pay their wages just as long as they get paid.... i'm still awaiting an apology from THE MANAGER....not a player that has seemingly been put up to taking the heat off the decision maker... WELL GARY?[/p][/quote]You make a very good point and a refund to everyone that went would not be out of place, to say I was disappointed is a understatement. Unless he puts out the strongest team possible I will never again pay to watch another league cup game Pembina
  • Score: 4

6:00pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Alan42 says...

ZomZom@thePark wrote:
You appear to have a reasonable first XI, I watched your game with Cardiff on Sky, but that said there wasn't any evidence of having someone who could change the game in a moment. The goal was a good strike but the lad didn't appear to be the one to take the game by the scruff of its neck and no - one in a blue and white shirt looked to have it them.
You will know your team rather better than me, is there anyone out of the side at the moment you could say would carry the mantel for you?
We had. His name was Rochina but we gave him away for free.
[quote][p][bold]ZomZom@thePark[/bold] wrote: You appear to have a reasonable first XI, I watched your game with Cardiff on Sky, but that said there wasn't any evidence of having someone who could change the game in a moment. The goal was a good strike but the lad didn't appear to be the one to take the game by the scruff of its neck and no - one in a blue and white shirt looked to have it them. You will know your team rather better than me, is there anyone out of the side at the moment you could say would carry the mantel for you?[/p][/quote]We had. His name was Rochina but we gave him away for free. Alan42
  • Score: 5

6:35pm Thu 14 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

What an absolute unmitigated shambles.

Bowyer has proven he is a managerial novice with such disgraceful preparation for what would have been a very welcome and morale boosting win. Instead due once again to his incompetance we are now looking increasingly fragile and should we suffer even one or two injuries then god help us with what we got as backup.

Hate to say it but take away Rhodes and Cairney and you're looking at possibly the weakest squad in the Championship. We got beat by a poor League One side.

Disgraceful Bowyer. Disgraceful.
What an absolute unmitigated shambles. Bowyer has proven he is a managerial novice with such disgraceful preparation for what would have been a very welcome and morale boosting win. Instead due once again to his incompetance we are now looking increasingly fragile and should we suffer even one or two injuries then god help us with what we got as backup. Hate to say it but take away Rhodes and Cairney and you're looking at possibly the weakest squad in the Championship. We got beat by a poor League One side. Disgraceful Bowyer. Disgraceful. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -2

6:42pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Maxrus says...

owd nick wrote:
Done and dusted, Wednesdays chip paper.

The next match is the most important, then the one after that and so on.

All this navel contemplating does nothing but give our detractors a bigger stick to beat us with, why? Because each of us in our own way care about the club and want it to succeed, if we didn't there wouldn't be any point.

Barring injuries we have a pretty good idea as to what the team for Saturday will be, what will be interesting is who he has on the bench.

Must win game? Doesn't matter who we are playing so only from the perspective of three points are available, because even if we were to win 6 - 0 the whingers and whiners would still have a go.

44 games to go after that one.
What will be more interesting for me, if it turns out to be a close match, is if he uses anyone from the bench to try to take the initiative.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Done and dusted, Wednesdays chip paper. The next match is the most important, then the one after that and so on. All this navel contemplating does nothing but give our detractors a bigger stick to beat us with, why? Because each of us in our own way care about the club and want it to succeed, if we didn't there wouldn't be any point. Barring injuries we have a pretty good idea as to what the team for Saturday will be, what will be interesting is who he has on the bench. Must win game? Doesn't matter who we are playing so only from the perspective of three points are available, because even if we were to win 6 - 0 the whingers and whiners would still have a go. 44 games to go after that one.[/p][/quote]What will be more interesting for me, if it turns out to be a close match, is if he uses anyone from the bench to try to take the initiative. Maxrus
  • Score: 4

6:42pm Thu 14 Aug 14

stick to football says...

You are very kind to the players and Manager to describe it as a second rate performance - to my mind it was much worse than that
You are very kind to the players and Manager to describe it as a second rate performance - to my mind it was much worse than that stick to football
  • Score: 6

8:17pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Pembina says...

stick to football wrote:
You are very kind to the players and Manager to describe it as a second rate performance - to my mind it was much worse than that
Totally agree
[quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: You are very kind to the players and Manager to describe it as a second rate performance - to my mind it was much worse than that[/p][/quote]Totally agree Pembina
  • Score: 1

8:26pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

You gotta stick with Mogadon because that's about as good as you can get now- no more big name charlie managers - old Sam is looking like he did well to get away when he did...........b.....
...ds v Pompey at deadwood has a certain ring to it.....
You gotta stick with Mogadon because that's about as good as you can get now- no more big name charlie managers - old Sam is looking like he did well to get away when he did...........b..... ...ds v Pompey at deadwood has a certain ring to it..... Its Only a game boy
  • Score: -6

8:35pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Nuttall Street says...

Bl00dy disgraceful. First of all Venkys feel comfortable to sit in the stands then next match we are easily beaten by Scuney. Luckily, I don' t go anymore. I like to see a bit of effort for my money.
Lost opportunity against Cardiff, disaster against Scunthorpe . Every blighters played out of position except the goalie. It' s going to be a long drab season of at best mid table mediocrity. Venkys out.
Bl00dy disgraceful. First of all Venkys feel comfortable to sit in the stands then next match we are easily beaten by Scuney. Luckily, I don' t go anymore. I like to see a bit of effort for my money. Lost opportunity against Cardiff, disaster against Scunthorpe . Every blighters played out of position except the goalie. It' s going to be a long drab season of at best mid table mediocrity. Venkys out. Nuttall Street
  • Score: -3

8:40pm Thu 14 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

BOWYER OUT!
BOWYER OUT! TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -3

8:48pm Thu 14 Aug 14

BlueSkies says...

Nuttall Street wrote:
Bl00dy disgraceful. First of all Venkys feel comfortable to sit in the stands then next match we are easily beaten by Scuney. Luckily, I don' t go anymore. I like to see a bit of effort for my money.
Lost opportunity against Cardiff, disaster against Scunthorpe . Every blighters played out of position except the goalie. It' s going to be a long drab season of at best mid table mediocrity. Venkys out.
You don't go anymore, not been for years, yet you come on here moaning. Cretin.
[quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Bl00dy disgraceful. First of all Venkys feel comfortable to sit in the stands then next match we are easily beaten by Scuney. Luckily, I don' t go anymore. I like to see a bit of effort for my money. Lost opportunity against Cardiff, disaster against Scunthorpe . Every blighters played out of position except the goalie. It' s going to be a long drab season of at best mid table mediocrity. Venkys out.[/p][/quote]You don't go anymore, not been for years, yet you come on here moaning. Cretin. BlueSkies
  • Score: 8

8:55pm Thu 14 Aug 14

bburnrover says...

Well Gb has had his day in the sun over 12 months in charge he has steadied the ship and was within a whisker of a play off place.The fact that he was so close was due to a lot of the other teams losing form at the vital stage of the season.I note Derby won their pre season matches and I expected them to win their cup match which understandably they did but why are the rovers different? Have Derby better players answer no,have they a better manager answer a definite yes.I think its time now for the owners to be informed that we need a winner in charge someone who can motivate but after the long fiasco with Mr Kean I cannot see a cat in hells chance of that happening.
Well Gb has had his day in the sun over 12 months in charge he has steadied the ship and was within a whisker of a play off place.The fact that he was so close was due to a lot of the other teams losing form at the vital stage of the season.I note Derby won their pre season matches and I expected them to win their cup match which understandably they did but why are the rovers different? Have Derby better players answer no,have they a better manager answer a definite yes.I think its time now for the owners to be informed that we need a winner in charge someone who can motivate but after the long fiasco with Mr Kean I cannot see a cat in hells chance of that happening. bburnrover
  • Score: 4

9:00pm Thu 14 Aug 14

BlueSkies says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
BOWYER OUT!
As a fellow Roverite Tom, how are we gonna feel when the Dingles win the Premier League?
And then go on to play the likes of Barca and RM in the Champions League. How will we feel about the Dingles then?
We'll be sick with envy that our hated adversaries have won major silverware and what if they go and win a Cup Final, we'll be so peeeeed off, life will be awful?
What will we do Tom? We hate those Dingles Tom, don't we?
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: BOWYER OUT![/p][/quote]As a fellow Roverite Tom, how are we gonna feel when the Dingles win the Premier League? And then go on to play the likes of Barca and RM in the Champions League. How will we feel about the Dingles then? We'll be sick with envy that our hated adversaries have won major silverware and what if they go and win a Cup Final, we'll be so peeeeed off, life will be awful? What will we do Tom? We hate those Dingles Tom, don't we? BlueSkies
  • Score: 4

9:07pm Thu 14 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

BlueSkies wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
BOWYER OUT!
As a fellow Roverite Tom, how are we gonna feel when the Dingles win the Premier League?
And then go on to play the likes of Barca and RM in the Champions League. How will we feel about the Dingles then?
We'll be sick with envy that our hated adversaries have won major silverware and what if they go and win a Cup Final, we'll be so peeeeed off, life will be awful?
What will we do Tom? We hate those Dingles Tom, don't we?
We can but admire them from a safe distance my friend and hope that one day we might have the substance to replicate their incredible achievements and escape from the second division without buying our way out. Sadly however we may have to go down again before we can rebuild. We need to get that FFP monkey off our backs first but how long could that take? Scary times ahead for us I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: BOWYER OUT![/p][/quote]As a fellow Roverite Tom, how are we gonna feel when the Dingles win the Premier League? And then go on to play the likes of Barca and RM in the Champions League. How will we feel about the Dingles then? We'll be sick with envy that our hated adversaries have won major silverware and what if they go and win a Cup Final, we'll be so peeeeed off, life will be awful? What will we do Tom? We hate those Dingles Tom, don't we?[/p][/quote]We can but admire them from a safe distance my friend and hope that one day we might have the substance to replicate their incredible achievements and escape from the second division without buying our way out. Sadly however we may have to go down again before we can rebuild. We need to get that FFP monkey off our backs first but how long could that take? Scary times ahead for us I'm afraid. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -4

9:13pm Thu 14 Aug 14

BlueSkies says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
BlueSkies wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
BOWYER OUT!
As a fellow Roverite Tom, how are we gonna feel when the Dingles win the Premier League?
And then go on to play the likes of Barca and RM in the Champions League. How will we feel about the Dingles then?
We'll be sick with envy that our hated adversaries have won major silverware and what if they go and win a Cup Final, we'll be so peeeeed off, life will be awful?
What will we do Tom? We hate those Dingles Tom, don't we?
We can but admire them from a safe distance my friend and hope that one day we might have the substance to replicate their incredible achievements and escape from the second division without buying our way out. Sadly however we may have to go down again before we can rebuild. We need to get that FFP monkey off our backs first but how long could that take? Scary times ahead for us I'm afraid.
You might be on your own with the admiring, Tom.
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: BOWYER OUT![/p][/quote]As a fellow Roverite Tom, how are we gonna feel when the Dingles win the Premier League? And then go on to play the likes of Barca and RM in the Champions League. How will we feel about the Dingles then? We'll be sick with envy that our hated adversaries have won major silverware and what if they go and win a Cup Final, we'll be so peeeeed off, life will be awful? What will we do Tom? We hate those Dingles Tom, don't we?[/p][/quote]We can but admire them from a safe distance my friend and hope that one day we might have the substance to replicate their incredible achievements and escape from the second division without buying our way out. Sadly however we may have to go down again before we can rebuild. We need to get that FFP monkey off our backs first but how long could that take? Scary times ahead for us I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You might be on your own with the admiring, Tom. BlueSkies
  • Score: 3

9:53pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Pembina says...

Perhaps it would be best if these Carling Cup games were played behind closed doors - that way Rovers fans would no loner have to suffer.
Perhaps it would be best if these Carling Cup games were played behind closed doors - that way Rovers fans would no loner have to suffer. Pembina
  • Score: 2

11:08pm Thu 14 Aug 14

owd nick says...

BlueSkies wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
BlueSkies wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
BOWYER OUT!
As a fellow Roverite Tom, how are we gonna feel when the Dingles win the Premier League?
And then go on to play the likes of Barca and RM in the Champions League. How will we feel about the Dingles then?
We'll be sick with envy that our hated adversaries have won major silverware and what if they go and win a Cup Final, we'll be so peeeeed off, life will be awful?
What will we do Tom? We hate those Dingles Tom, don't we?
We can but admire them from a safe distance my friend and hope that one day we might have the substance to replicate their incredible achievements and escape from the second division without buying our way out. Sadly however we may have to go down again before we can rebuild. We need to get that FFP monkey off our backs first but how long could that take? Scary times ahead for us I'm afraid.
You might be on your own with the admiring, Tom.
Like a Budgie looking in a mirror.
[quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: BOWYER OUT![/p][/quote]As a fellow Roverite Tom, how are we gonna feel when the Dingles win the Premier League? And then go on to play the likes of Barca and RM in the Champions League. How will we feel about the Dingles then? We'll be sick with envy that our hated adversaries have won major silverware and what if they go and win a Cup Final, we'll be so peeeeed off, life will be awful? What will we do Tom? We hate those Dingles Tom, don't we?[/p][/quote]We can but admire them from a safe distance my friend and hope that one day we might have the substance to replicate their incredible achievements and escape from the second division without buying our way out. Sadly however we may have to go down again before we can rebuild. We need to get that FFP monkey off our backs first but how long could that take? Scary times ahead for us I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You might be on your own with the admiring, Tom.[/p][/quote]Like a Budgie looking in a mirror. owd nick
  • Score: 2

11:09pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Blueandwhitewolf says...

The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!!
The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!! Blueandwhitewolf
  • Score: 6

11:27pm Thu 14 Aug 14

owd nick says...

Blueandwhitewolf wrote:
The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!!
I'm quite certain that that there will be a significant increase in comments on Burnley news articles come 10.00 pm on Monday evening, unfortunately there will be a dearth of posters from Burnley.

Just as there is now.
[quote][p][bold]Blueandwhitewolf[/bold] wrote: The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!![/p][/quote]I'm quite certain that that there will be a significant increase in comments on Burnley news articles come 10.00 pm on Monday evening, unfortunately there will be a dearth of posters from Burnley. Just as there is now. owd nick
  • Score: 1

11:53pm Thu 14 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

Blueandwhitewolf wrote:
The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!!
We just got beat off a League One club that had just clawed its way out of League Two. Perhaps that's why there is so much interest from that lot. Hate to be the one to break it to you pal but the Burnley fans are here to laugh at us and let's be honest who can blame them.
[quote][p][bold]Blueandwhitewolf[/bold] wrote: The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!![/p][/quote]We just got beat off a League One club that had just clawed its way out of League Two. Perhaps that's why there is so much interest from that lot. Hate to be the one to break it to you pal but the Burnley fans are here to laugh at us and let's be honest who can blame them. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -4

1:43am Fri 15 Aug 14

reggie0008 says...

Think it's time to change managers if we want a chance of going up this season, Bowyer has done a decent job steadying the ship and reducing the wage bill but it's obvious he's taken the club as far as he can.

Some of his signings are pretty poor compared to players we have given away for free, Tony Pulis has left Palace and would be a great appointment and would give us a realistic chance of promotion, whether he would work for Venkys is another matter but I think it's worth a try.
Think it's time to change managers if we want a chance of going up this season, Bowyer has done a decent job steadying the ship and reducing the wage bill but it's obvious he's taken the club as far as he can. Some of his signings are pretty poor compared to players we have given away for free, Tony Pulis has left Palace and would be a great appointment and would give us a realistic chance of promotion, whether he would work for Venkys is another matter but I think it's worth a try. reggie0008
  • Score: 4

7:33am Fri 15 Aug 14

themaltaman says...

Nuttall Street wrote:
Bl00dy disgraceful. First of all Venkys feel comfortable to sit in the stands then next match we are easily beaten by Scuney. Luckily, I don' t go anymore. I like to see a bit of effort for my money.
Lost opportunity against Cardiff, disaster against Scunthorpe . Every blighters played out of position except the goalie. It' s going to be a long drab season of at best mid table mediocrity. Venkys out.
Bowyer needs to go , end of.
[quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Bl00dy disgraceful. First of all Venkys feel comfortable to sit in the stands then next match we are easily beaten by Scuney. Luckily, I don' t go anymore. I like to see a bit of effort for my money. Lost opportunity against Cardiff, disaster against Scunthorpe . Every blighters played out of position except the goalie. It' s going to be a long drab season of at best mid table mediocrity. Venkys out.[/p][/quote]Bowyer needs to go , end of. themaltaman
  • Score: 0

7:45am Fri 15 Aug 14

LonglivetheVenkys says...

Blueandwhitewolf wrote:
The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!!
Did you manage to keep your keyboard dry while you were typing that ?
[quote][p][bold]Blueandwhitewolf[/bold] wrote: The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!![/p][/quote]Did you manage to keep your keyboard dry while you were typing that ? LonglivetheVenkys
  • Score: -3

8:41am Fri 15 Aug 14

WheresYourFamousSuicide? says...

LonglivetheVenkys wrote:
Blueandwhitewolf wrote:
The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!!
Did you manage to keep your keyboard dry while you were typing that ?
Did you manage to keep your sister dry, or are you still at her like a dog eating hot chips?
[quote][p][bold]LonglivetheVenkys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blueandwhitewolf[/bold] wrote: The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!![/p][/quote]Did you manage to keep your keyboard dry while you were typing that ?[/p][/quote]Did you manage to keep your sister dry, or are you still at her like a dog eating hot chips? WheresYourFamousSuicide?
  • Score: 1

8:44am Fri 15 Aug 14

bburnrover says...

There are a lot of good managers about now that are looking for a club including David Moyes ,Tony Pullis & Tim Sherwood I am sure one of these would be interested in sorting us out given a good amount of backing from the Venkey's.
There are a lot of good managers about now that are looking for a club including David Moyes ,Tony Pullis & Tim Sherwood I am sure one of these would be interested in sorting us out given a good amount of backing from the Venkey's. bburnrover
  • Score: 1

9:03am Fri 15 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

bburnrover wrote:
There are a lot of good managers about now that are looking for a club including David Moyes ,Tony Pullis & Tim Sherwood I am sure one of these would be interested in sorting us out given a good amount of backing from the Venkey's.
I think it's a bit premature to be calling for Bowyers head after a couple of disappointing results. I was annoyed as anyone after the Scunthorpe match and let it be known but I think he deserves more time. Another three months and if we're still struggling, then that's different matter.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: There are a lot of good managers about now that are looking for a club including David Moyes ,Tony Pullis & Tim Sherwood I am sure one of these would be interested in sorting us out given a good amount of backing from the Venkey's.[/p][/quote]I think it's a bit premature to be calling for Bowyers head after a couple of disappointing results. I was annoyed as anyone after the Scunthorpe match and let it be known but I think he deserves more time. Another three months and if we're still struggling, then that's different matter. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

9:04am Fri 15 Aug 14

forever blue and white says...

As all this FFP baloney keeps getting thrown at us would it not have been a good idea to have a good run in a competition with the knowledge that other clubs do and will do in future rounds exactly what Rovers did and play a very week side. I imagine the MK Dons v United game in the next round will be on tv. That's extra money for MK Dons. I understand the reasons behind playing a weaker side but not that weak that we perform like a North West Counties team. If I managed a company that was in need of money to comply with the rules and blew a very easy chance of making money I would expect the sack. I don't want GB to be sacked as I think he has managed the situation regarding the turnaround of players very well. I do want him to start playing his best 11 in every match and play attacking football. Many more games were we set up defensively or rest players and my mind will change regarding GB. Dropping Williamson all together would be a start.
As all this FFP baloney keeps getting thrown at us would it not have been a good idea to have a good run in a competition with the knowledge that other clubs do and will do in future rounds exactly what Rovers did and play a very week side. I imagine the MK Dons v United game in the next round will be on tv. That's extra money for MK Dons. I understand the reasons behind playing a weaker side but not that weak that we perform like a North West Counties team. If I managed a company that was in need of money to comply with the rules and blew a very easy chance of making money I would expect the sack. I don't want GB to be sacked as I think he has managed the situation regarding the turnaround of players very well. I do want him to start playing his best 11 in every match and play attacking football. Many more games were we set up defensively or rest players and my mind will change regarding GB. Dropping Williamson all together would be a start. forever blue and white
  • Score: 0

9:17am Fri 15 Aug 14

LonglivetheVenkys says...

WheresYourFamousSuic
ide?
wrote:
LonglivetheVenkys wrote:
Blueandwhitewolf wrote:
The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!!
Did you manage to keep your keyboard dry while you were typing that ?
Did you manage to keep your sister dry, or are you still at her like a dog eating hot chips?
I don't have a sister, it's your mum I'm at.
[quote][p][bold]WheresYourFamousSuic ide?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LonglivetheVenkys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blueandwhitewolf[/bold] wrote: The bigger clubs always attract more comments on their news articles. Look how many comments on Rovers' page compared to little burnley. We could be playing in league 2 and we would still be a bigger and better club than tin pot burnley!![/p][/quote]Did you manage to keep your keyboard dry while you were typing that ?[/p][/quote]Did you manage to keep your sister dry, or are you still at her like a dog eating hot chips?[/p][/quote]I don't have a sister, it's your mum I'm at. LonglivetheVenkys
  • Score: -2

10:29am Fri 15 Aug 14

owd nick says...

bburnrover wrote:
There are a lot of good managers about now that are looking for a club including David Moyes ,Tony Pullis & Tim Sherwood I am sure one of these would be interested in sorting us out given a good amount of backing from the Venkey's.
Venky's cannot back us. FFP.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: There are a lot of good managers about now that are looking for a club including David Moyes ,Tony Pullis & Tim Sherwood I am sure one of these would be interested in sorting us out given a good amount of backing from the Venkey's.[/p][/quote]Venky's cannot back us. FFP. owd nick
  • Score: 0

12:00pm Fri 15 Aug 14

dangerous dave says...

owd nick wrote:
Done and dusted, Wednesdays chip paper.

The next match is the most important, then the one after that and so on.

All this navel contemplating does nothing but give our detractors a bigger stick to beat us with, why? Because each of us in our own way care about the club and want it to succeed, if we didn't there wouldn't be any point.

Barring injuries we have a pretty good idea as to what the team for Saturday will be, what will be interesting is who he has on the bench.

Must win game? Doesn't matter who we are playing so only from the perspective of three points are available, because even if we were to win 6 - 0 the whingers and whiners would still have a go.

44 games to go after that one.
Easy words from an idiot. Totally embarrassing and well you know it. Our obly chance at a decent run in the micky mouse cup and couldnt even take it.!!
Out with the cowboys and indians
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Done and dusted, Wednesdays chip paper. The next match is the most important, then the one after that and so on. All this navel contemplating does nothing but give our detractors a bigger stick to beat us with, why? Because each of us in our own way care about the club and want it to succeed, if we didn't there wouldn't be any point. Barring injuries we have a pretty good idea as to what the team for Saturday will be, what will be interesting is who he has on the bench. Must win game? Doesn't matter who we are playing so only from the perspective of three points are available, because even if we were to win 6 - 0 the whingers and whiners would still have a go. 44 games to go after that one.[/p][/quote]Easy words from an idiot. Totally embarrassing and well you know it. Our obly chance at a decent run in the micky mouse cup and couldnt even take it.!! Out with the cowboys and indians dangerous dave
  • Score: -1

1:06pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Blueandwhitewolf says...

dangerous dave wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Done and dusted, Wednesdays chip paper.

The next match is the most important, then the one after that and so on.

All this navel contemplating does nothing but give our detractors a bigger stick to beat us with, why? Because each of us in our own way care about the club and want it to succeed, if we didn't there wouldn't be any point.

Barring injuries we have a pretty good idea as to what the team for Saturday will be, what will be interesting is who he has on the bench.

Must win game? Doesn't matter who we are playing so only from the perspective of three points are available, because even if we were to win 6 - 0 the whingers and whiners would still have a go.

44 games to go after that one.
Easy words from an idiot. Totally embarrassing and well you know it. Our obly chance at a decent run in the micky mouse cup and couldnt even take it.!!
Out with the cowboys and indians
What do you care? You don't even follow football!! What a tool you are. Out with Dangerous Dave
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Done and dusted, Wednesdays chip paper. The next match is the most important, then the one after that and so on. All this navel contemplating does nothing but give our detractors a bigger stick to beat us with, why? Because each of us in our own way care about the club and want it to succeed, if we didn't there wouldn't be any point. Barring injuries we have a pretty good idea as to what the team for Saturday will be, what will be interesting is who he has on the bench. Must win game? Doesn't matter who we are playing so only from the perspective of three points are available, because even if we were to win 6 - 0 the whingers and whiners would still have a go. 44 games to go after that one.[/p][/quote]Easy words from an idiot. Totally embarrassing and well you know it. Our obly chance at a decent run in the micky mouse cup and couldnt even take it.!! Out with the cowboys and indians[/p][/quote]What do you care? You don't even follow football!! What a tool you are. Out with Dangerous Dave Blueandwhitewolf
  • Score: 1

6:17pm Fri 15 Aug 14

mushypeaman says...

How about Tony Pullis for manager? I'm sure he would be more positive.
How about Tony Pullis for manager? I'm sure he would be more positive. mushypeaman
  • Score: 0

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