No excuse for cup shock, says Rovers boss Bowyer

Rudy Gestede sees a goal disallowed for Rovers in the final moments of their 1-0 League Cup defeat to Scunthorpe Picture: CLIVE LAWRENCE

Rudy Gestede sees a goal disallowed for Rovers in the final moments of their 1-0 League Cup defeat to Scunthorpe Picture: CLIVE LAWRENCE

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BLACKBURN Rovers boss Gary Bowyer’s labelled his side’s shock Capital One Cup exit to Scunthorpe United last night as ‘unacceptable’ and one of the ‘worst’ displays of his time in the Ewood Park hotseat.

For the second season running Rovers crashed out of the competition to League One opposition after former Blackpool midfielder Neal Bishop headed home in the 33rd minute to earn the Iron a fully deserved 1-0 win.

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And Bowyer, who made 10 changes to the team which started Friday’s Championship opener against Cardiff City, offered no hiding place for his badly out-of-sorts players.

He said: “From our point of view it’s not acceptable and in my time here that’s the worst we’ve been, especially the first 45 minutes.

“But I have to give credit to Scunthorpe.

“But there’s no excuses from our side – and that’s it really.”

The defeat ended Rovers’ 13-match unbeaten run in all competitions and leaves Bowyer with plenty to ponder going into Saturday’s league trip to Blackpool.

And Bowyer, who struggled to find any positives on a desperately disappointing night, added: “We had strong words at half-time and gave them 15 minutes to sort it out but it didn’t happen.”

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9:30am Wed 13 Aug 14

French Rover says...

Terrible performance and an insult to the fans that paid to watch the Rovers last night. I heard that Lowe and O`Connor were the only two that came out of the game with any credit. I am not too bothered by going out of this competition really, but in the first round again> And to Scunthorpe? Poor.

Good opportunity for Rovers to make amends to the fans on Saturday at Blackpool though. No excuses, it is a game that we should win easily.
Terrible performance and an insult to the fans that paid to watch the Rovers last night. I heard that Lowe and O`Connor were the only two that came out of the game with any credit. I am not too bothered by going out of this competition really, but in the first round again> And to Scunthorpe? Poor. Good opportunity for Rovers to make amends to the fans on Saturday at Blackpool though. No excuses, it is a game that we should win easily. French Rover
  • Score: 28

9:37am Wed 13 Aug 14

cowabunga says...

What a shambles of a club you are .Yet again one of your players is nicked by the police. if it aint drink driving ie Keano ,assault IE Goodwillie,Kiddie fiddling ie roar the lion its knocking someones teeth out in a nightclub. Clueless Classless and Shameless joke of a club.Agent Bowyer keep up the good work.
What a shambles of a club you are .Yet again one of your players is nicked by the police. if it aint drink driving ie Keano ,assault IE Goodwillie,Kiddie fiddling ie roar the lion its knocking someones teeth out in a nightclub. Clueless Classless and Shameless joke of a club.Agent Bowyer keep up the good work. cowabunga
  • Score: -30

9:39am Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 30

9:44am Wed 13 Aug 14

burnleyglentoran says...

Stirling effort agent Bowyer!

WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE

GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE
Stirling effort agent Bowyer! WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE burnleyglentoran
  • Score: -19

9:47am Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 18

9:53am Wed 13 Aug 14

MxMave says...

Does this finally prove the point that the second string players at Ewood aren't even League 2 level?
Unless we buy a creative mid to fulfil the Ruben role, there's no chance of promotion. We can have 99% possession but if we can't break down the back 4 its utterly pointless.
Does this finally prove the point that the second string players at Ewood aren't even League 2 level? Unless we buy a creative mid to fulfil the Ruben role, there's no chance of promotion. We can have 99% possession but if we can't break down the back 4 its utterly pointless. MxMave
  • Score: 21

9:54am Wed 13 Aug 14

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse says...

Could be worse.......

To be fair it probably couldn't.
Could be worse....... To be fair it probably couldn't. Chuck Norris' Roundhouse
  • Score: 15

10:02am Wed 13 Aug 14

fitz808 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that fitz808
  • Score: 11

10:15am Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

fitz808 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
I agree with what you are saying but doesn' it show that our squad isn't as strong as Bowyer thinks it is.
According to Bowyer yesterday he wanted to make progress in this competition but hasn't learned that you can't field a drastically weakened team and expect to win. It happened at Carlisle last year and happened again last night. The point is if he wants to make progress, he needs to learn from his mistakes quick.
[quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that[/p][/quote]I agree with what you are saying but doesn' it show that our squad isn't as strong as Bowyer thinks it is. According to Bowyer yesterday he wanted to make progress in this competition but hasn't learned that you can't field a drastically weakened team and expect to win. It happened at Carlisle last year and happened again last night. The point is if he wants to make progress, he needs to learn from his mistakes quick. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 11

10:16am Wed 13 Aug 14

mickth says...

It wasn't a young team! It was a young defence but poor as Henly and Songoo were the defence wasnt really the problem.

The problem was midfield and up front where every player was either a first team player or candidate for the substitutes bench.

I cant for the life of me think of any reason why we signed Varney, he contributes absolutely nothing, and we even had 2 months looking at him last season before we signed him.

Taylor is simply not good enough to play centre midfield, King not capable of leading the attack, Dunn and Williamson were very poor. The only one who showed anything was Marshall and he isn't fit enough.

Apparantly Bowyer has the finance to make 1 loan signing, I think a lot more than 1 is needed to get any depth in our squad.

Completely predictable after a summer in which we must have let a dozen player go and replaced them with Varney, Baptiste and the invisible man.

Bowyer said he needed 2 or 3 transfer windows to sort the squad out - at this rate in 2 or 3 transfer windows we will have a first team squad of 4 and still be paying the wages of players playing for our rivals.
It wasn't a young team! It was a young defence but poor as Henly and Songoo were the defence wasnt really the problem. The problem was midfield and up front where every player was either a first team player or candidate for the substitutes bench. I cant for the life of me think of any reason why we signed Varney, he contributes absolutely nothing, and we even had 2 months looking at him last season before we signed him. Taylor is simply not good enough to play centre midfield, King not capable of leading the attack, Dunn and Williamson were very poor. The only one who showed anything was Marshall and he isn't fit enough. Apparantly Bowyer has the finance to make 1 loan signing, I think a lot more than 1 is needed to get any depth in our squad. Completely predictable after a summer in which we must have let a dozen player go and replaced them with Varney, Baptiste and the invisible man. Bowyer said he needed 2 or 3 transfer windows to sort the squad out - at this rate in 2 or 3 transfer windows we will have a first team squad of 4 and still be paying the wages of players playing for our rivals. mickth
  • Score: 9

10:16am Wed 13 Aug 14

steralc says...

The grim reaper says
You're doomed
Doomed I tell thee
Doomed
The grim reaper says You're doomed Doomed I tell thee Doomed steralc
  • Score: 7

10:23am Wed 13 Aug 14

Pembina says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Stirling effort agent Bowyer!

WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE

GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE
Does your mother know you wrote this garbage?
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: Stirling effort agent Bowyer! WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE[/p][/quote]Does your mother know you wrote this garbage? Pembina
  • Score: 11

10:24am Wed 13 Aug 14

Bill Carson says...

fitz808 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
Totally disagree. Last night exposed many things. Firstly GB picked the team, made the 10 changes and failed monumentally. They were all players he's brought to the club, he's the manager yet no responsibility or apology for the display? Selecting an under-strength team so early in the season was very foolish and he repeated the mistake. If you want to proceed in any competition you pick your best side, simple. Leaving players out not wanting to risk injury is a nonsense, just the same way he can't judge an effective substitution. GB can't see beyond the starting line-up and without any creativity in midfield we'll be lucky to make the play-offs. God forbid we lose any first-teamers!
[quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that[/p][/quote]Totally disagree. Last night exposed many things. Firstly GB picked the team, made the 10 changes and failed monumentally. They were all players he's brought to the club, he's the manager yet no responsibility or apology for the display? Selecting an under-strength team so early in the season was very foolish and he repeated the mistake. If you want to proceed in any competition you pick your best side, simple. Leaving players out not wanting to risk injury is a nonsense, just the same way he can't judge an effective substitution. GB can't see beyond the starting line-up and without any creativity in midfield we'll be lucky to make the play-offs. God forbid we lose any first-teamers! Bill Carson
  • Score: 14

10:29am Wed 13 Aug 14

PlutoRover says...

fitz808 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
I agree with this post entirely. The only point I would like to make is that it is a shame that we had to sign Varney and let Rochina go. I would have been feeling more positive this season if Rochina was sat on the bench ready to come on as a striker if the Rhodes Gestede partnership was not breaking through. Or, to sit behind them both in a 433 if the wingers were being marked out of it. I would have expected him to play and score last night as a striker. However, that is now the past so here's hoping that Brown can be that player but I'm worried he is too similar as a target man to change a game and score a goal out of nothing.
[quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that[/p][/quote]I agree with this post entirely. The only point I would like to make is that it is a shame that we had to sign Varney and let Rochina go. I would have been feeling more positive this season if Rochina was sat on the bench ready to come on as a striker if the Rhodes Gestede partnership was not breaking through. Or, to sit behind them both in a 433 if the wingers were being marked out of it. I would have expected him to play and score last night as a striker. However, that is now the past so here's hoping that Brown can be that player but I'm worried he is too similar as a target man to change a game and score a goal out of nothing. PlutoRover
  • Score: 7

10:31am Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

one step forward two steps back ,10 changes an insult to the fans, bowyer has shot himself in the foot AGAIN by his team selection and made the blackpool match a must must must win or the knifes will out after just two games what an IDIOT.
one step forward two steps back ,10 changes an insult to the fans, bowyer has shot himself in the foot AGAIN by his team selection and made the blackpool match a must must must win or the knifes will out after just two games what an IDIOT. benal13
  • Score: 15

10:32am Wed 13 Aug 14

Riverside 7 says...

I have never been a big fan of Gary Bowyer and have always held the opinion that he is not the man who will lead us back to the Premier League.
However, after the strong end to last season I conceded on this forum that he had done enough to justify retaining his position as manager.

Due to Sky re-scheduling the opening fixture against Cardiff to Friday night, I missed the season opener at Ewood.
Friends of mine had mixed views on the Cardiff game. A few said we had played OK whilst others said we had loads of possession but lacked penetration and created few chances.

I was therefore looking forward to seeing my first game against Scunthorpe last night, even after being unable to buy a seat in the Riverside and later learning that I had paid £15 to watch our ‘reserve side’.

Bowyer had done exactly the same thing last year and we lost away at Carlisle so I was very surprised when he made 10 changes from the team that started against Cardiff.
Especially as earlier in the week he had been saying he did not want to make the same mistakes as last year, and that he wanted to progress in the competition.

A strong run from Josh King in the first minute created a good chance for Dunny, but that was as good as it got in the first half.
We were lethargic, far too slow, had no penetration (again) but more importantly lacked aggression and the desire to win.

You have got to question Bowyer’s ability to motivate his players and send out a team the enthusiasm and will to win.

Having said all that, when I looked at the team he had selected I saw that we had;-
A central midfielder (Lowe) at right back.
A right back playing at left back (Henley)
A wide midfield player playing in the centre (Taylor)
Another wide midfielder / winger (King) playing as a central striker
A central midfield player (Dunn) playing up front
A central striker (Varney) playing out wide

Throw into the mix, 2 inexperienced centre-backs, a central midfielder (Williamson) who does not create a thing, and is it any wonder the team he selected did not gel.

I simply do not understand why managers cannot give the League Cup and the fans some respect by playing a first eleven.

The 2nd half was little better.

I could not even say that Scunthorpe played particularly well but based on our lethargic performance we are out of the League cup once again in the first round.

Simply not good enough Bowyer
I have never been a big fan of Gary Bowyer and have always held the opinion that he is not the man who will lead us back to the Premier League. However, after the strong end to last season I conceded on this forum that he had done enough to justify retaining his position as manager. Due to Sky re-scheduling the opening fixture against Cardiff to Friday night, I missed the season opener at Ewood. Friends of mine had mixed views on the Cardiff game. A few said we had played OK whilst others said we had loads of possession but lacked penetration and created few chances. I was therefore looking forward to seeing my first game against Scunthorpe last night, even after being unable to buy a seat in the Riverside and later learning that I had paid £15 to watch our ‘reserve side’. Bowyer had done exactly the same thing last year and we lost away at Carlisle so I was very surprised when he made 10 changes from the team that started against Cardiff. Especially as earlier in the week he had been saying he did not want to make the same mistakes as last year, and that he wanted to progress in the competition. A strong run from Josh King in the first minute created a good chance for Dunny, but that was as good as it got in the first half. We were lethargic, far too slow, had no penetration (again) but more importantly lacked aggression and the desire to win. You have got to question Bowyer’s ability to motivate his players and send out a team the enthusiasm and will to win. Having said all that, when I looked at the team he had selected I saw that we had;- A central midfielder (Lowe) at right back. A right back playing at left back (Henley) A wide midfield player playing in the centre (Taylor) Another wide midfielder / winger (King) playing as a central striker A central midfield player (Dunn) playing up front A central striker (Varney) playing out wide Throw into the mix, 2 inexperienced centre-backs, a central midfielder (Williamson) who does not create a thing, and is it any wonder the team he selected did not gel. I simply do not understand why managers cannot give the League Cup and the fans some respect by playing a first eleven. The 2nd half was little better. I could not even say that Scunthorpe played particularly well but based on our lethargic performance we are out of the League cup once again in the first round. Simply not good enough Bowyer Riverside 7
  • Score: 38

10:36am Wed 13 Aug 14

J.C - Rishton says...

We are only 2 games in to the season and so it is far too early to make too many assumptions, yet 3 things appear to be possible problems for us this season -

1 - GB likes to play a fairly negative formation and game plan, when he does this seems to cost us games/points but when he plays a more positive game, we seem to do much better. However, too often he reverts to type and choses the more caucious approach.

2 - We cannot defend set peices to a good enough standard.

3 - The first 11 is quite good but numbers 12-22 are woefully poor.

4 - The squad is way too short of defenders (at least 2).

The championship is a tough 46 game season, if a least 2 of these 4 statements prove to be true then we will struggle to improve on last years 8th place finish especially when the majority of the teams in the division has strengthened their squads.
We are only 2 games in to the season and so it is far too early to make too many assumptions, yet 3 things appear to be possible problems for us this season - 1 - GB likes to play a fairly negative formation and game plan, when he does this seems to cost us games/points but when he plays a more positive game, we seem to do much better. However, too often he reverts to type and choses the more caucious approach. 2 - We cannot defend set peices to a good enough standard. 3 - The first 11 is quite good but numbers 12-22 are woefully poor. 4 - The squad is way too short of defenders (at least 2). The championship is a tough 46 game season, if a least 2 of these 4 statements prove to be true then we will struggle to improve on last years 8th place finish especially when the majority of the teams in the division has strengthened their squads. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 15

10:36am Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

Bill Carson wrote:
fitz808 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
Totally disagree. Last night exposed many things. Firstly GB picked the team, made the 10 changes and failed monumentally. They were all players he's brought to the club, he's the manager yet no responsibility or apology for the display? Selecting an under-strength team so early in the season was very foolish and he repeated the mistake. If you want to proceed in any competition you pick your best side, simple. Leaving players out not wanting to risk injury is a nonsense, just the same way he can't judge an effective substitution. GB can't see beyond the starting line-up and without any creativity in midfield we'll be lucky to make the play-offs. God forbid we lose any first-teamers!
WELL SAID totally agree
[quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that[/p][/quote]Totally disagree. Last night exposed many things. Firstly GB picked the team, made the 10 changes and failed monumentally. They were all players he's brought to the club, he's the manager yet no responsibility or apology for the display? Selecting an under-strength team so early in the season was very foolish and he repeated the mistake. If you want to proceed in any competition you pick your best side, simple. Leaving players out not wanting to risk injury is a nonsense, just the same way he can't judge an effective substitution. GB can't see beyond the starting line-up and without any creativity in midfield we'll be lucky to make the play-offs. God forbid we lose any first-teamers![/p][/quote]WELL SAID totally agree benal13
  • Score: 5

10:37am Wed 13 Aug 14

Scamp Kingsley says...

Pembina wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote:
Stirling effort agent Bowyer!

WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE

GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE
Does your mother know you wrote this garbage?
Garbage? Three nailed on FACTS love.

Get back to the ironing if that's the best you've got!
[quote][p][bold]Pembina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: Stirling effort agent Bowyer! WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE[/p][/quote]Does your mother know you wrote this garbage?[/p][/quote]Garbage? Three nailed on FACTS love. Get back to the ironing if that's the best you've got! Scamp Kingsley
  • Score: -5

10:37am Wed 13 Aug 14

claytoner85 says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Stirling effort agent Bowyer!

WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE

GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE
Remind us what the PNE vs Burnley score was a few weeks ago?

Even worse for you guys seeing as your Premier League big boys now eh
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: Stirling effort agent Bowyer! WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE[/p][/quote]Remind us what the PNE vs Burnley score was a few weeks ago? Even worse for you guys seeing as your Premier League big boys now eh claytoner85
  • Score: 2

10:37am Wed 13 Aug 14

VeniVidiVici says...

A thirteen match unbeaten run has come to an end, and I think what stings is the pedigree of the team we lost to. Had it been a Premier League club or even a good Championship team I think it's fair to say the disappointment wouldn't have cut so deep.

Having said that, although I do see Bowyer as the obvious one to blame (and in part a lackluster performance) I think Blackburn have created something of a habit of either doing quite well or quite badly in cup competitions. Unfortunately for Bowyer it was the latter fate on this occasion.

Though the real truth to this defeat is the fact that Bowyer is an inexperienced manager who has just learned a lesson.

I support Bowyer and firmly believe he's brought a much needed stability to a very disorganised and erratic Rovers. Though the truth is that this was inevitable in a sense.

Inexperience as a manager, as well as a thirteen game run that I believe created overconfidence in an equally inexperienced squad have all added to this.

Though unlike previous managers cut down by the same axe (Ince, Keane, Berg) I believe Bowyer has the preservation to learn from this and take a more cautious step in future, as well as some of the younger players as well.

In truth this squad and manager will learn from every game, so I suppose it could be seen as a weak benefit that he and the team have learned this lesson from a cup competition and not from where it really matters, from where we pick up points and have a chance of better things; the Championship.

Good luck to Bowyer and the team, hopefully the majority of future faults will be figured out and set straight on the training ground, and not in a potentially important situation.
A thirteen match unbeaten run has come to an end, and I think what stings is the pedigree of the team we lost to. Had it been a Premier League club or even a good Championship team I think it's fair to say the disappointment wouldn't have cut so deep. Having said that, although I do see Bowyer as the obvious one to blame (and in part a lackluster performance) I think Blackburn have created something of a habit of either doing quite well or quite badly in cup competitions. Unfortunately for Bowyer it was the latter fate on this occasion. Though the real truth to this defeat is the fact that Bowyer is an inexperienced manager who has just learned a lesson. I support Bowyer and firmly believe he's brought a much needed stability to a very disorganised and erratic Rovers. Though the truth is that this was inevitable in a sense. Inexperience as a manager, as well as a thirteen game run that I believe created overconfidence in an equally inexperienced squad have all added to this. Though unlike previous managers cut down by the same axe (Ince, Keane, Berg) I believe Bowyer has the preservation to learn from this and take a more cautious step in future, as well as some of the younger players as well. In truth this squad and manager will learn from every game, so I suppose it could be seen as a weak benefit that he and the team have learned this lesson from a cup competition and not from where it really matters, from where we pick up points and have a chance of better things; the Championship. Good luck to Bowyer and the team, hopefully the majority of future faults will be figured out and set straight on the training ground, and not in a potentially important situation. VeniVidiVici
  • Score: 3

10:37am Wed 13 Aug 14

bburnrover says...

i keep saying we have to start winning and get out of this complacancy the unbeaten run of mainly draws ended last night,good,we may start realising that we require some new defenders and a creative midfielder that can go past people.I noticed against Cardiff we could not get to the byline and the wide men did not get in the area to disturb the defence so it was easy for them the only way we can score is from 25 yards or penalties. Naievity lack of motivation there are a lot of adjectives for our current situation,the team looks good enough but unfortunately they do not attack wholeheartedly and tend to pass back when it gets difficult get us a player who can get into the area and create opportunities for Rhodes and Co.
i keep saying we have to start winning and get out of this complacancy the unbeaten run of mainly draws ended last night,good,we may start realising that we require some new defenders and a creative midfielder that can go past people.I noticed against Cardiff we could not get to the byline and the wide men did not get in the area to disturb the defence so it was easy for them the only way we can score is from 25 yards or penalties. Naievity lack of motivation there are a lot of adjectives for our current situation,the team looks good enough but unfortunately they do not attack wholeheartedly and tend to pass back when it gets difficult get us a player who can get into the area and create opportunities for Rhodes and Co. bburnrover
  • Score: 3

10:44am Wed 13 Aug 14

Jr11BRFC says...

cowabunga wrote:
What a shambles of a club you are .Yet again one of your players is nicked by the police. if it aint drink driving ie Keano ,assault IE Goodwillie,Kiddie fiddling ie roar the lion its knocking someones teeth out in a nightclub. Clueless Classless and Shameless joke of a club.Agent Bowyer keep up the good work.
The latter would also be assault.
[quote][p][bold]cowabunga[/bold] wrote: What a shambles of a club you are .Yet again one of your players is nicked by the police. if it aint drink driving ie Keano ,assault IE Goodwillie,Kiddie fiddling ie roar the lion its knocking someones teeth out in a nightclub. Clueless Classless and Shameless joke of a club.Agent Bowyer keep up the good work.[/p][/quote]The latter would also be assault. Jr11BRFC
  • Score: -3

10:47am Wed 13 Aug 14

Jansen_10 says...

So much negativity...
We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season
We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league

Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints.

If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.
So much negativity... We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints. If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on. Jansen_10
  • Score: 4

10:47am Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
I have never been a big fan of Gary Bowyer and have always held the opinion that he is not the man who will lead us back to the Premier League.
However, after the strong end to last season I conceded on this forum that he had done enough to justify retaining his position as manager.

Due to Sky re-scheduling the opening fixture against Cardiff to Friday night, I missed the season opener at Ewood.
Friends of mine had mixed views on the Cardiff game. A few said we had played OK whilst others said we had loads of possession but lacked penetration and created few chances.

I was therefore looking forward to seeing my first game against Scunthorpe last night, even after being unable to buy a seat in the Riverside and later learning that I had paid £15 to watch our ‘reserve side’.

Bowyer had done exactly the same thing last year and we lost away at Carlisle so I was very surprised when he made 10 changes from the team that started against Cardiff.
Especially as earlier in the week he had been saying he did not want to make the same mistakes as last year, and that he wanted to progress in the competition.

A strong run from Josh King in the first minute created a good chance for Dunny, but that was as good as it got in the first half.
We were lethargic, far too slow, had no penetration (again) but more importantly lacked aggression and the desire to win.

You have got to question Bowyer’s ability to motivate his players and send out a team the enthusiasm and will to win.

Having said all that, when I looked at the team he had selected I saw that we had;-
A central midfielder (Lowe) at right back.
A right back playing at left back (Henley)
A wide midfield player playing in the centre (Taylor)
Another wide midfielder / winger (King) playing as a central striker
A central midfield player (Dunn) playing up front
A central striker (Varney) playing out wide

Throw into the mix, 2 inexperienced centre-backs, a central midfielder (Williamson) who does not create a thing, and is it any wonder the team he selected did not gel.

I simply do not understand why managers cannot give the League Cup and the fans some respect by playing a first eleven.

The 2nd half was little better.

I could not even say that Scunthorpe played particularly well but based on our lethargic performance we are out of the League cup once again in the first round.

Simply not good enough Bowyer
Agree with what you say, a team of misfits. Fringe players, two young lads and half the team playing out of their natural positions. And GB says he wanted to progress.
What is he thinking about ?
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: I have never been a big fan of Gary Bowyer and have always held the opinion that he is not the man who will lead us back to the Premier League. However, after the strong end to last season I conceded on this forum that he had done enough to justify retaining his position as manager. Due to Sky re-scheduling the opening fixture against Cardiff to Friday night, I missed the season opener at Ewood. Friends of mine had mixed views on the Cardiff game. A few said we had played OK whilst others said we had loads of possession but lacked penetration and created few chances. I was therefore looking forward to seeing my first game against Scunthorpe last night, even after being unable to buy a seat in the Riverside and later learning that I had paid £15 to watch our ‘reserve side’. Bowyer had done exactly the same thing last year and we lost away at Carlisle so I was very surprised when he made 10 changes from the team that started against Cardiff. Especially as earlier in the week he had been saying he did not want to make the same mistakes as last year, and that he wanted to progress in the competition. A strong run from Josh King in the first minute created a good chance for Dunny, but that was as good as it got in the first half. We were lethargic, far too slow, had no penetration (again) but more importantly lacked aggression and the desire to win. You have got to question Bowyer’s ability to motivate his players and send out a team the enthusiasm and will to win. Having said all that, when I looked at the team he had selected I saw that we had;- A central midfielder (Lowe) at right back. A right back playing at left back (Henley) A wide midfield player playing in the centre (Taylor) Another wide midfielder / winger (King) playing as a central striker A central midfield player (Dunn) playing up front A central striker (Varney) playing out wide Throw into the mix, 2 inexperienced centre-backs, a central midfielder (Williamson) who does not create a thing, and is it any wonder the team he selected did not gel. I simply do not understand why managers cannot give the League Cup and the fans some respect by playing a first eleven. The 2nd half was little better. I could not even say that Scunthorpe played particularly well but based on our lethargic performance we are out of the League cup once again in the first round. Simply not good enough Bowyer[/p][/quote]Agree with what you say, a team of misfits. Fringe players, two young lads and half the team playing out of their natural positions. And GB says he wanted to progress. What is he thinking about ? Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 6

11:01am Wed 13 Aug 14

hasslem hasslem says...

steralc wrote:
The grim reaper says
You're doomed
Doomed I tell thee
Doomed
this literally is a backward claret - the true manifestation of a dingle
[quote][p][bold]steralc[/bold] wrote: The grim reaper says You're doomed Doomed I tell thee Doomed[/p][/quote]this literally is a backward claret - the true manifestation of a dingle hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -5

11:06am Wed 13 Aug 14

darwen1946 says...

ALWAYS PLAY YOUR BEST TEAM !!!!!!!!!

Why did so many players need resting FFS we have only played one game!

What a **** up !!
ALWAYS PLAY YOUR BEST TEAM !!!!!!!!! Why did so many players need resting FFS we have only played one game! What a **** up !! darwen1946
  • Score: 19

11:07am Wed 13 Aug 14

I am the voice of my own god says...

worst perfomance ever seen, and only the second game of season, stunning
worst perfomance ever seen, and only the second game of season, stunning I am the voice of my own god
  • Score: 7

11:10am Wed 13 Aug 14

Jr11BRFC says...

My team for the weekend at blackpool would have to be:

Robinson


Lowe Baptiste Hanley Olsson


Evans
Marshall/King Cairney Conway


Rhodes Gestede
My team for the weekend at blackpool would have to be: Robinson Lowe Baptiste Hanley Olsson Evans Marshall/King Cairney Conway Rhodes Gestede Jr11BRFC
  • Score: 8

11:13am Wed 13 Aug 14

darwen1946 says...

Scunthurpe thought he was taking the **** when they heard of our team and had the last laugh !
Scunthurpe thought he was taking the **** when they heard of our team and had the last laugh ! darwen1946
  • Score: 8

11:25am Wed 13 Aug 14

hasslem hasslem says...

we all love a good moan - don't we? dangerous dave must be on holiday
we all love a good moan - don't we? dangerous dave must be on holiday hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -5

11:27am Wed 13 Aug 14

will12 says...

You just couldn't make it up !!!

Oh well, little old Blackpool on Sat, and they don't even have a squad to pick from !!!

No matter how bad it gets and your backs against the wall, how could it get any worse !!!

And it doesn't matter what any of us say, the deluded from deadwood always have something to say or compare it to, but sink to the low of a comparing a friendly to the Tin Pot Cup Tie is really scraping it, but that's what happens when you are in a different cosmos !!!

Dare to Dream, keep your feet on the ground, it's that simple, but in your case, get on your knees and pray!!!
You just couldn't make it up !!! Oh well, little old Blackpool on Sat, and they don't even have a squad to pick from !!! No matter how bad it gets and your backs against the wall, how could it get any worse !!! And it doesn't matter what any of us say, the deluded from deadwood always have something to say or compare it to, but sink to the low of a comparing a friendly to the Tin Pot Cup Tie is really scraping it, but that's what happens when you are in a different cosmos !!! Dare to Dream, keep your feet on the ground, it's that simple, but in your case, get on your knees and pray!!! will12
  • Score: 0

11:32am Wed 13 Aug 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

bburnrover wrote:
i keep saying we have to start winning and get out of this complacancy the unbeaten run of mainly draws ended last night,good,we may start realising that we require some new defenders and a creative midfielder that can go past people.I noticed against Cardiff we could not get to the byline and the wide men did not get in the area to disturb the defence so it was easy for them the only way we can score is from 25 yards or penalties. Naievity lack of motivation there are a lot of adjectives for our current situation,the team looks good enough but unfortunately they do not attack wholeheartedly and tend to pass back when it gets difficult get us a player who can get into the area and create opportunities for Rhodes and Co.
This is all down to GB's style of play and tactics or lack of them. We have the players. It showed at the back end of last season when GB finally decided to through caution to the wind and we started winning. Now he has gone back to type with no imagination during a game in order to effect changes when needed. Back to the " we must not loose " mentality rather than " we must win " attitude I am afraid.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: i keep saying we have to start winning and get out of this complacancy the unbeaten run of mainly draws ended last night,good,we may start realising that we require some new defenders and a creative midfielder that can go past people.I noticed against Cardiff we could not get to the byline and the wide men did not get in the area to disturb the defence so it was easy for them the only way we can score is from 25 yards or penalties. Naievity lack of motivation there are a lot of adjectives for our current situation,the team looks good enough but unfortunately they do not attack wholeheartedly and tend to pass back when it gets difficult get us a player who can get into the area and create opportunities for Rhodes and Co.[/p][/quote]This is all down to GB's style of play and tactics or lack of them. We have the players. It showed at the back end of last season when GB finally decided to through caution to the wind and we started winning. Now he has gone back to type with no imagination during a game in order to effect changes when needed. Back to the " we must not loose " mentality rather than " we must win " attitude I am afraid. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 6

11:36am Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

Jansen_10 wrote:
So much negativity...
We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season
We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league

Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints.

If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.
lord ho ho could have wrote this
[quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: So much negativity... We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints. If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.[/p][/quote]lord ho ho could have wrote this benal13
  • Score: 1

11:36am Wed 13 Aug 14

juanbbien says...

We now seem to be approaching matches with the attitude of let's get through this game without any injuries try and cobble a result so as we are all fit for the next game,and we don't have to delve into our reserve department of lower league and not up to it players.
Whats wrong with these players,blimey they used to hack Douglas down game after game the only way they could stop him but was he ever injured no, he was back for more the next week.
If this lot can't or won't put in a consistent show of determination and guts for ninety minutes we have no chance,getting beat by lot is a bloody disgrace.
We now seem to be approaching matches with the attitude of let's get through this game without any injuries try and cobble a result so as we are all fit for the next game,and we don't have to delve into our reserve department of lower league and not up to it players. Whats wrong with these players,blimey they used to hack Douglas down game after game the only way they could stop him but was he ever injured no, he was back for more the next week. If this lot can't or won't put in a consistent show of determination and guts for ninety minutes we have no chance,getting beat by lot is a bloody disgrace. juanbbien
  • Score: 5

11:43am Wed 13 Aug 14

Rover47 says...

Bill Carson wrote:
fitz808 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
Totally disagree. Last night exposed many things. Firstly GB picked the team, made the 10 changes and failed monumentally. They were all players he's brought to the club, he's the manager yet no responsibility or apology for the display? Selecting an under-strength team so early in the season was very foolish and he repeated the mistake. If you want to proceed in any competition you pick your best side, simple. Leaving players out not wanting to risk injury is a nonsense, just the same way he can't judge an effective substitution. GB can't see beyond the starting line-up and without any creativity in midfield we'll be lucky to make the play-offs. God forbid we lose any first-teamers!
Any of those players could be injured driving away from the training ground, so should they not drive? We missed a glorious chance of scoring a few goals last night and building up some confidence after a poor pre-season and a missed opportunity against a poor Cardiff side.

GB's judgement appears to be lacking. He steadfastly refused to inject new impetus from the bench against Cardiff when we were playing well but getting nowhere, then takes an almighty gamble by making ten changes against Scunthorpe.

I questioned at the time of his appointment whether he would be a long-term solution or a short term fix. Yes, he has stabilised the club, but now the chips are down he has to prove himself as a manager.

He has no track record, no experience and a pretty ordinary team around him. At the moment some of the players he has brought in appear to be poor choices. So the question has to be – has he the skill and judgement to become a successful manager?

It gives me no pleasure to say this, but I honestly doubt it. In the two games so far he has heaped pressure upon himself by his lack of judgement.

Having said that, I hope he is never sacked. He does not deserve that for what he has achieved in handling the turmoil that he was thrust into. But will he ever be a manager?
[quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that[/p][/quote]Totally disagree. Last night exposed many things. Firstly GB picked the team, made the 10 changes and failed monumentally. They were all players he's brought to the club, he's the manager yet no responsibility or apology for the display? Selecting an under-strength team so early in the season was very foolish and he repeated the mistake. If you want to proceed in any competition you pick your best side, simple. Leaving players out not wanting to risk injury is a nonsense, just the same way he can't judge an effective substitution. GB can't see beyond the starting line-up and without any creativity in midfield we'll be lucky to make the play-offs. God forbid we lose any first-teamers![/p][/quote]Any of those players could be injured driving away from the training ground, so should they not drive? We missed a glorious chance of scoring a few goals last night and building up some confidence after a poor pre-season and a missed opportunity against a poor Cardiff side. GB's judgement appears to be lacking. He steadfastly refused to inject new impetus from the bench against Cardiff when we were playing well but getting nowhere, then takes an almighty gamble by making ten changes against Scunthorpe. I questioned at the time of his appointment whether he would be a long-term solution or a short term fix. Yes, he has stabilised the club, but now the chips are down he has to prove himself as a manager. He has no track record, no experience and a pretty ordinary team around him. At the moment some of the players he has brought in appear to be poor choices. So the question has to be – has he the skill and judgement to become a successful manager? It gives me no pleasure to say this, but I honestly doubt it. In the two games so far he has heaped pressure upon himself by his lack of judgement. Having said that, I hope he is never sacked. He does not deserve that for what he has achieved in handling the turmoil that he was thrust into. But will he ever be a manager? Rover47
  • Score: 3

12:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

4youreyesonly says...

GB is a yes man like the ones before him , he is not a manager he is a coach and not a very good one at that , time to bring in a time served manager with plenty of experience ,

VENKYS OUT
GB is a yes man like the ones before him , he is not a manager he is a coach and not a very good one at that , time to bring in a time served manager with plenty of experience , VENKYS OUT 4youreyesonly
  • Score: 5

12:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

McClaret says...

GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football.
Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game.
The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold.
Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.
GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football. Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game. The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold. Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL. McClaret
  • Score: -3

12:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rover47 says...

benal13 wrote:
Jansen_10 wrote:
So much negativity...
We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season
We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league

Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints.

If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.
lord ho ho could have wrote this
I'm afraid the negativity is being generated by GB.
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: So much negativity... We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints. If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.[/p][/quote]lord ho ho could have wrote this[/p][/quote]I'm afraid the negativity is being generated by GB. Rover47
  • Score: 2

12:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TurfMoorTom says...

Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.
Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride. TurfMoorTom
  • Score: 1

12:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fitz808 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
fitz808 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
I agree with what you are saying but doesn' it show that our squad isn't as strong as Bowyer thinks it is.
According to Bowyer yesterday he wanted to make progress in this competition but hasn't learned that you can't field a drastically weakened team and expect to win. It happened at Carlisle last year and happened again last night. The point is if he wants to make progress, he needs to learn from his mistakes quick.
fair dos, but i would say he was limited on options yesterday. there are no guarantees in football, but i think it was sensible not to risk many of the first team on last night's game.
FFP hits us with the double whammy
1) we can't have a deep enough squad to have a great reserve team
2) we can't unnecessarily risk picking up injuries with our key players

let's face it, we played badly last night, but the same group of players could just as easily play scunny tonight and beat them comfortably. i'm therefore not going to draw too many conclusions from that game. it's a shame to be out and fielding a stronger side would have made it massively more likely that we progressed, but the emphasis has to be on the league.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that[/p][/quote]I agree with what you are saying but doesn' it show that our squad isn't as strong as Bowyer thinks it is. According to Bowyer yesterday he wanted to make progress in this competition but hasn't learned that you can't field a drastically weakened team and expect to win. It happened at Carlisle last year and happened again last night. The point is if he wants to make progress, he needs to learn from his mistakes quick.[/p][/quote]fair dos, but i would say he was limited on options yesterday. there are no guarantees in football, but i think it was sensible not to risk many of the first team on last night's game. FFP hits us with the double whammy 1) we can't have a deep enough squad to have a great reserve team 2) we can't unnecessarily risk picking up injuries with our key players let's face it, we played badly last night, but the same group of players could just as easily play scunny tonight and beat them comfortably. i'm therefore not going to draw too many conclusions from that game. it's a shame to be out and fielding a stronger side would have made it massively more likely that we progressed, but the emphasis has to be on the league. fitz808
  • Score: -1

12:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Jansen_10 says...

benal13 wrote:
Jansen_10 wrote:
So much negativity...
We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season
We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league

Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints.

If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.
lord ho ho could have wrote this
*written
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: So much negativity... We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints. If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.[/p][/quote]lord ho ho could have wrote this[/p][/quote]*written Jansen_10
  • Score: 3

12:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
we all love a good moan - don't we? dangerous dave must be on holiday
we have had plenty to moan about over the last few years and its not getting any better, NURSE PASS ME THEM PILLS !!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: we all love a good moan - don't we? dangerous dave must be on holiday[/p][/quote]we have had plenty to moan about over the last few years and its not getting any better, NURSE PASS ME THEM PILLS !!!!!!!!!!! benal13
  • Score: -1

12:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark anthony says...

Quote no excuse for cup shock Mr bowyer? You made the excuse by fielding the weakest side ever seen at Ewood against a club which had nothing to lose and for the paying fans who had to watch a game which 9 out of 10 would have been played behind closed doors down at brockhall on a Thursday afternoon.I doubt 3 or 4 players will grace the field again at Ewood why? They are not good enough for championship football high flying none league clubs properly. So where does leave the future of blackburn rovers long-term ? They had there chance and made a mess
Quote no excuse for cup shock Mr bowyer? You made the excuse by fielding the weakest side ever seen at Ewood against a club which had nothing to lose and for the paying fans who had to watch a game which 9 out of 10 would have been played behind closed doors down at brockhall on a Thursday afternoon.I doubt 3 or 4 players will grace the field again at Ewood why? They are not good enough for championship football high flying none league clubs properly. So where does leave the future of blackburn rovers long-term ? They had there chance and made a mess mark anthony
  • Score: 6

12:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

Jansen_10 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
Jansen_10 wrote:
So much negativity...
We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season
We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league

Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints.

If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.
lord ho ho could have wrote this
*written
Iinglish whas neaver mi bestast subchect
[quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: So much negativity... We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints. If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.[/p][/quote]lord ho ho could have wrote this[/p][/quote]*written[/p][/quote]Iinglish whas neaver mi bestast subchect benal13
  • Score: 1

12:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

benal13 wrote:
Jansen_10 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
Jansen_10 wrote:
So much negativity...
We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season
We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league

Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints.

If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.
lord ho ho could have wrote this
*written
Iinglish whas neaver mi bestast subchect
sorry that should say inglish silly me
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: So much negativity... We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints. If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.[/p][/quote]lord ho ho could have wrote this[/p][/quote]*written[/p][/quote]Iinglish whas neaver mi bestast subchect[/p][/quote]sorry that should say inglish silly me benal13
  • Score: 1

12:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

noddy57 says...

French Rover wrote:
Terrible performance and an insult to the fans that paid to watch the Rovers last night. I heard that Lowe and O`Connor were the only two that came out of the game with any credit. I am not too bothered by going out of this competition really, but in the first round again> And to Scunthorpe? Poor.

Good opportunity for Rovers to make amends to the fans on Saturday at Blackpool though. No excuses, it is a game that we should win easily.
Inept performance !! a complete kick in the knackers.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Terrible performance and an insult to the fans that paid to watch the Rovers last night. I heard that Lowe and O`Connor were the only two that came out of the game with any credit. I am not too bothered by going out of this competition really, but in the first round again> And to Scunthorpe? Poor. Good opportunity for Rovers to make amends to the fans on Saturday at Blackpool though. No excuses, it is a game that we should win easily.[/p][/quote]Inept performance !! a complete kick in the knackers. noddy57
  • Score: 3

12:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bluerob says...

The last 2 games have been crying out for someone to create some space with a drop of the shoulder and taking on the opposition or a killer pass, i think we will regret the decision to let Rochina go.
The last 2 games have been crying out for someone to create some space with a drop of the shoulder and taking on the opposition or a killer pass, i think we will regret the decision to let Rochina go. bluerob
  • Score: 3

12:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

RoversSwiss says...

Lowe, Williamson & Taylor the world's least creative midfield. We saw it many times last season, Lowe + Williamson = Rovers 0. Still supporting GB, but cannot understand why he persists with the Lowe Williamson combination when it quite clearly fails to produce goals.

Keeping Varney and selling Rochina now seems to be an even stranger decision. Varney is another Goodwillie and Rochina would have been capable of winning last night's game.

More interested to know about the 2 young centre halves, could be crucial that one of them graduates to the first team. O'Connell?
Lowe, Williamson & Taylor the world's least creative midfield. We saw it many times last season, Lowe + Williamson = Rovers 0. Still supporting GB, but cannot understand why he persists with the Lowe Williamson combination when it quite clearly fails to produce goals. Keeping Varney and selling Rochina now seems to be an even stranger decision. Varney is another Goodwillie and Rochina would have been capable of winning last night's game. More interested to know about the 2 young centre halves, could be crucial that one of them graduates to the first team. O'Connell? RoversSwiss
  • Score: 2

12:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

crankitup says...

I've got a reason for you Gary......10 bloody changes and a lack of a clue
I've got a reason for you Gary......10 bloody changes and a lack of a clue crankitup
  • Score: 4

12:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

McClaret wrote:
GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football.
Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game.
The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold.
Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.
We can talk about the following 15 years aswell. You lot can talk about 1 game in how many decades? And why would losing to Scunthorpe bring back memories of Bonleh managing to score 1 more goal than us for the first time since Rocky III was released?

I dread to think what sort of sh*te you lot would come up with if you had actually done anything of note.
[quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football. Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game. The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold. Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.[/p][/quote]We can talk about the following 15 years aswell. You lot can talk about 1 game in how many decades? And why would losing to Scunthorpe bring back memories of Bonleh managing to score 1 more goal than us for the first time since Rocky III was released? I dread to think what sort of sh*te you lot would come up with if you had actually done anything of note. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 10

12:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

hasslem hasslem says...

benal13 wrote:
Jansen_10 wrote:
So much negativity...
We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season
We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league

Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints.

If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.
lord ho ho could have wrote this
is he related to father christmas?
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jansen_10[/bold] wrote: So much negativity... We are out of the cup = more chance to focus on the league and less games to play this season We played poorly = these players will have less game time in the league Be careful what you wish for. Bowyer's been a breath of fresh air since Kean, despite financial constraints. If we lose to Blackpool on Saturday, then its an issue. Last night was a nothing game played by our reserve team. Yes we lost. Yes it was embarrassing. Move on.[/p][/quote]lord ho ho could have wrote this[/p][/quote]is he related to father christmas? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -3

12:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

noddy57 says...

French Rover wrote:
Terrible performance and an insult to the fans that paid to watch the Rovers last night. I heard that Lowe and O`Connor were the only two that came out of the game with any credit. I am not too bothered by going out of this competition really, but in the first round again> And to Scunthorpe? Poor.

Good opportunity for Rovers to make amends to the fans on Saturday at Blackpool though. No excuses, it is a game that we should win easily.
Well Gary to be quite blunt there could never have been an excuse for this debacle and cringe worthy performance. simply unforgivable . Let,s hope this was a one off for everyone,s sake.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Terrible performance and an insult to the fans that paid to watch the Rovers last night. I heard that Lowe and O`Connor were the only two that came out of the game with any credit. I am not too bothered by going out of this competition really, but in the first round again> And to Scunthorpe? Poor. Good opportunity for Rovers to make amends to the fans on Saturday at Blackpool though. No excuses, it is a game that we should win easily.[/p][/quote]Well Gary to be quite blunt there could never have been an excuse for this debacle and cringe worthy performance. simply unforgivable . Let,s hope this was a one off for everyone,s sake. noddy57
  • Score: 0

12:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bboyrovers says...

Rochina was sold due to his big wage - thats the only reason. He qas signed by kean on a stupid contract. Varney was a free agent, on small wages.. I don't rate him, but he puts a shift in. But let's face it, he will prob be a bench warmer used as a sub getting the odd 10 mins every other game.
Whatever GB does he can't win with most fans - I agree with people saying that if he played rhodes and co - and they got injured he would be called a mug..
It was a chance for the bench warmers to show GB what they jave got in a competitive game.. they didn't do well, which is a shame and im fairly suprised. But its not the end of the world... I also believe if we lose on sat its not as bigger deal as ppl are making out. Its a long long season, we will lose at some point.
Rochina was sold due to his big wage - thats the only reason. He qas signed by kean on a stupid contract. Varney was a free agent, on small wages.. I don't rate him, but he puts a shift in. But let's face it, he will prob be a bench warmer used as a sub getting the odd 10 mins every other game. Whatever GB does he can't win with most fans - I agree with people saying that if he played rhodes and co - and they got injured he would be called a mug.. It was a chance for the bench warmers to show GB what they jave got in a competitive game.. they didn't do well, which is a shame and im fairly suprised. But its not the end of the world... I also believe if we lose on sat its not as bigger deal as ppl are making out. Its a long long season, we will lose at some point. bboyrovers
  • Score: -5

1:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Scamp Kingsley says...

TurfMoorTom wrote:
Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.
Please TMT tell us more about this bunch of league 2 moneyball misfits that constitute the worst wovers team in a generation!
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote: Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.[/p][/quote]Please TMT tell us more about this bunch of league 2 moneyball misfits that constitute the worst wovers team in a generation! Scamp Kingsley
  • Score: -6

1:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

juanbbien says...

We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading
We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading juanbbien
  • Score: 6

1:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

bboyrovers wrote:
Rochina was sold due to his big wage - thats the only reason. He qas signed by kean on a stupid contract. Varney was a free agent, on small wages.. I don't rate him, but he puts a shift in. But let's face it, he will prob be a bench warmer used as a sub getting the odd 10 mins every other game.
Whatever GB does he can't win with most fans - I agree with people saying that if he played rhodes and co - and they got injured he would be called a mug..
It was a chance for the bench warmers to show GB what they jave got in a competitive game.. they didn't do well, which is a shame and im fairly suprised. But its not the end of the world... I also believe if we lose on sat its not as bigger deal as ppl are making out. Its a long long season, we will lose at some point.
Playing in front of small crowds doesn't help either. That's certainly no excuse given the crazy money these lads earn compared to 99.9% of fans but it's human instinct. Players are subconsciously aware that playing Scunthorpe in the 1st round of League Cup clearly doesn't mean as much to supporters as only 4,000 were interested enough to turn up. Add that to poor tacticts, players out of position (GB's fault) fringe players not seizing their chance to impress and a Scunthorpe side with nowt to lose, and you get yourself a dross 0-1 result.... it's not rocket science.

We've sold out at Blackpool and I fully expect the performance by both playing staff and management to be far far superior to last nights garbage.
[quote][p][bold]bboyrovers[/bold] wrote: Rochina was sold due to his big wage - thats the only reason. He qas signed by kean on a stupid contract. Varney was a free agent, on small wages.. I don't rate him, but he puts a shift in. But let's face it, he will prob be a bench warmer used as a sub getting the odd 10 mins every other game. Whatever GB does he can't win with most fans - I agree with people saying that if he played rhodes and co - and they got injured he would be called a mug.. It was a chance for the bench warmers to show GB what they jave got in a competitive game.. they didn't do well, which is a shame and im fairly suprised. But its not the end of the world... I also believe if we lose on sat its not as bigger deal as ppl are making out. Its a long long season, we will lose at some point.[/p][/quote]Playing in front of small crowds doesn't help either. That's certainly no excuse given the crazy money these lads earn compared to 99.9% of fans but it's human instinct. Players are subconsciously aware that playing Scunthorpe in the 1st round of League Cup clearly doesn't mean as much to supporters as only 4,000 were interested enough to turn up. Add that to poor tacticts, players out of position (GB's fault) fringe players not seizing their chance to impress and a Scunthorpe side with nowt to lose, and you get yourself a dross 0-1 result.... it's not rocket science. We've sold out at Blackpool and I fully expect the performance by both playing staff and management to be far far superior to last nights garbage. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: -1

1:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
Lowe, Williamson & Taylor the world's least creative midfield. We saw it many times last season, Lowe + Williamson = Rovers 0. Still supporting GB, but cannot understand why he persists with the Lowe Williamson combination when it quite clearly fails to produce goals.

Keeping Varney and selling Rochina now seems to be an even stranger decision. Varney is another Goodwillie and Rochina would have been capable of winning last night's game.

More interested to know about the 2 young centre halves, could be crucial that one of them graduates to the first team. O'Connell?
Agree. Lowe seems to have some sort of hold over GB and neither him or Williamson are ever going to create anything. We have a holding midfielder in Evans who should play behind Cairney in the middle. Simple.
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: Lowe, Williamson & Taylor the world's least creative midfield. We saw it many times last season, Lowe + Williamson = Rovers 0. Still supporting GB, but cannot understand why he persists with the Lowe Williamson combination when it quite clearly fails to produce goals. Keeping Varney and selling Rochina now seems to be an even stranger decision. Varney is another Goodwillie and Rochina would have been capable of winning last night's game. More interested to know about the 2 young centre halves, could be crucial that one of them graduates to the first team. O'Connell?[/p][/quote]Agree. Lowe seems to have some sort of hold over GB and neither him or Williamson are ever going to create anything. We have a holding midfielder in Evans who should play behind Cairney in the middle. Simple. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: -1

1:55pm Wed 13 Aug 14

FCBurnley says...

Today is the 13th of August. Blackburn Rovers have already dropped 2 massive home points and been eliminated from the League Cup by the mighty Scunthorpe ! Season over ?

STAYING DOWN FOR EVER
Today is the 13th of August. Blackburn Rovers have already dropped 2 massive home points and been eliminated from the League Cup by the mighty Scunthorpe ! Season over ? STAYING DOWN FOR EVER FCBurnley
  • Score: 4

1:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SuperBlues says...

The squad players we have are not good enough simple as that, Luke Varney is one of the worst strikers I have ever seen at ewood, Adam Henley was terrible last season and looks no better, Chris Taylor offers nothing, Josh King needs to pull his finger out big time and Jake Kean flapped at everything that came his way and looks like a rabbit in headlights, a few more signings is a must!!!
The squad players we have are not good enough simple as that, Luke Varney is one of the worst strikers I have ever seen at ewood, Adam Henley was terrible last season and looks no better, Chris Taylor offers nothing, Josh King needs to pull his finger out big time and Jake Kean flapped at everything that came his way and looks like a rabbit in headlights, a few more signings is a must!!! SuperBlues
  • Score: 6

2:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The GJudge says...

Disrespectful to the paying public. This was an appalling result and the manager has to take full responsibility. The owners should ask him why he fielded such a changed side they had 24 hours more rest than most championship sides, so these namby pamby footballers can't say they were 'tired' playing two games in such a short period of time. What a wasted opportunity for some much needed impetus of fund from a lucrative tie with a premiership side a good possibility gone begging the owners should ask why not start with a strong side and give the younger players a chance once the game is won so to speak. I would sack G.B. immediately as he has to take full responsibility, his choice his motivation or lack of it, bad judgement. Bring in David Moyes we are as big a club as Everton. You know it makes sense The Judge
Disrespectful to the paying public. This was an appalling result and the manager has to take full responsibility. The owners should ask him why he fielded such a changed side they had 24 hours more rest than most championship sides, so these namby pamby footballers can't say they were 'tired' playing two games in such a short period of time. What a wasted opportunity for some much needed impetus of fund from a lucrative tie with a premiership side a good possibility gone begging the owners should ask why not start with a strong side and give the younger players a chance once the game is won so to speak. I would sack G.B. immediately as he has to take full responsibility, his choice his motivation or lack of it, bad judgement. Bring in David Moyes we are as big a club as Everton. You know it makes sense The Judge The GJudge
  • Score: 6

2:04pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

juanbbien wrote:
We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading
Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading[/p][/quote]Chris Rea sang a song about your boys...... Its Only a game boy
  • Score: 1

2:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

What does GB mean when he said he gave them 15 minutes to sort it out but they didn't. It's up to him to sort it out and instruct the players accordingly. Does he just pick the team and then leave the rest is down to them. Amazing.
What does GB mean when he said he gave them 15 minutes to sort it out but they didn't. It's up to him to sort it out and instruct the players accordingly. Does he just pick the team and then leave the rest is down to them. Amazing. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 5

2:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Today is the 13th of August. Blackburn Rovers have already dropped 2 massive home points and been eliminated from the League Cup by the mighty Scunthorpe ! Season over ?

STAYING DOWN FOR EVER
I say bowyer stays............
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Today is the 13th of August. Blackburn Rovers have already dropped 2 massive home points and been eliminated from the League Cup by the mighty Scunthorpe ! Season over ? STAYING DOWN FOR EVER[/p][/quote]I say bowyer stays............ Its Only a game boy
  • Score: -3

2:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

garry_stockton says...

Bazzer , Baldie where are you !!!!
The silence is deafening, face the facts Nodads
Even if the Clarets lose on Monday the fans will be behind the team, manager and board.
Two faced bar stewards have even turned against d_ckead dunn,
Thedeafdwood boys will be boycotting KFC next
WHATS HAPPENED TO STAR SIGNING BROWN?
Thought Scunny was his level of football, he should have been in his element,GB must be saving him for 2nd Div next year...........
You couldn't write the script
FFP bring it on
Bazzer , Baldie where are you !!!! The silence is deafening, face the facts Nodads Even if the Clarets lose on Monday the fans will be behind the team, manager and board. Two faced bar stewards have even turned against d_ckead dunn, Thedeafdwood boys will be boycotting KFC next WHATS HAPPENED TO STAR SIGNING BROWN? Thought Scunny was his level of football, he should have been in his element,GB must be saving him for 2nd Div next year........... You couldn't write the script FFP bring it on garry_stockton
  • Score: -1

2:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse says...

Such a shame that little Blackburn couldn't manage to get past mighty Scunthorpe and progress to the Second Round of the League Cup for the first time in years.

They may have been able to ease some of their debt crisis with a home match against a Premier League giant - like Burnley for example.
Such a shame that little Blackburn couldn't manage to get past mighty Scunthorpe and progress to the Second Round of the League Cup for the first time in years. They may have been able to ease some of their debt crisis with a home match against a Premier League giant - like Burnley for example. Chuck Norris' Roundhouse
  • Score: 0

2:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

crankitup says...

still waiting for the apology Gary.....you can blame the players if you want but YOU pick the team.....I bet you apologised to the chicken pluckers for the lost revenue due to the early exit......AGAIN
still waiting for the apology Gary.....you can blame the players if you want but YOU pick the team.....I bet you apologised to the chicken pluckers for the lost revenue due to the early exit......AGAIN crankitup
  • Score: 9

2:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

FCBurnley says...

Today is August 13th. The BIG clubs have yet to begin their season. Some of the lower league clubs are already in turmoil and disarray and some are already out of The League Cup even before the BIG BOYS enter the tournament. Scary how big the gap has become in such a few short months
Today is August 13th. The BIG clubs have yet to begin their season. Some of the lower league clubs are already in turmoil and disarray and some are already out of The League Cup even before the BIG BOYS enter the tournament. Scary how big the gap has become in such a few short months FCBurnley
  • Score: -2

2:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

garry_stockton says...

Come on boys Agent Bowyer is doing a great job ...really!!!!!!!
Come on boys Agent Bowyer is doing a great job ...really!!!!!!! garry_stockton
  • Score: 5

2:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mickth says...

bboyrovers wrote:
Rochina was sold due to his big wage - thats the only reason. He qas signed by kean on a stupid contract. Varney was a free agent, on small wages.. I don't rate him, but he puts a shift in. But let's face it, he will prob be a bench warmer used as a sub getting the odd 10 mins every other game. Whatever GB does he can't win with most fans - I agree with people saying that if he played rhodes and co - and they got injured he would be called a mug.. It was a chance for the bench warmers to show GB what they jave got in a competitive game.. they didn't do well, which is a shame and im fairly suprised. But its not the end of the world... I also believe if we lose on sat its not as bigger deal as ppl are making out. Its a long long season, we will lose at some point.
"puts a shift in" what the feck is that supposed to mean, give me a blu and white shirt and I'd run ny backside off for a fraction of his "small wages". Not sure how many on field minutes he has had now, but with the exception of any time e got at telford, I've seen all of them and I haven't seen him do anything yet.
I can't believe we went on and sined him after how he performed last season.
If we weren't paying him, or Taylor, or Eastwood, or Songoo, and hadn't had to pay off the likes of Marrow, Campbell etc we might even have been able to sign a couple of decent players who could actually create something.
[quote][p][bold]bboyrovers[/bold] wrote: Rochina was sold due to his big wage - thats the only reason. He qas signed by kean on a stupid contract. Varney was a free agent, on small wages.. I don't rate him, but he puts a shift in. But let's face it, he will prob be a bench warmer used as a sub getting the odd 10 mins every other game. Whatever GB does he can't win with most fans - I agree with people saying that if he played rhodes and co - and they got injured he would be called a mug.. It was a chance for the bench warmers to show GB what they jave got in a competitive game.. they didn't do well, which is a shame and im fairly suprised. But its not the end of the world... I also believe if we lose on sat its not as bigger deal as ppl are making out. Its a long long season, we will lose at some point.[/p][/quote]"puts a shift in" what the feck is that supposed to mean, give me a blu and white shirt and I'd run ny backside off for a fraction of his "small wages". Not sure how many on field minutes he has had now, but with the exception of any time e got at telford, I've seen all of them and I haven't seen him do anything yet. I can't believe we went on and sined him after how he performed last season. If we weren't paying him, or Taylor, or Eastwood, or Songoo, and hadn't had to pay off the likes of Marrow, Campbell etc we might even have been able to sign a couple of decent players who could actually create something. mickth
  • Score: 8

2:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

crankitup wrote:
still waiting for the apology Gary.....you can blame the players if you want but YOU pick the team.....I bet you apologised to the chicken pluckers for the lost revenue due to the early exit......AGAIN
did you mean to write pluckers good comment anyway
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: still waiting for the apology Gary.....you can blame the players if you want but YOU pick the team.....I bet you apologised to the chicken pluckers for the lost revenue due to the early exit......AGAIN[/p][/quote]did you mean to write pluckers good comment anyway benal13
  • Score: -9

2:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

crankitup says...

benal13 wrote:
crankitup wrote:
still waiting for the apology Gary.....you can blame the players if you want but YOU pick the team.....I bet you apologised to the chicken pluckers for the lost revenue due to the early exit......AGAIN
did you mean to write pluckers good comment anyway
oooops yes mate and thanks ;-)
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: still waiting for the apology Gary.....you can blame the players if you want but YOU pick the team.....I bet you apologised to the chicken pluckers for the lost revenue due to the early exit......AGAIN[/p][/quote]did you mean to write pluckers good comment anyway[/p][/quote]oooops yes mate and thanks ;-) crankitup
  • Score: 1

2:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

thelincolnshirepoacher says...

The only way this debacle will be seen to be worth it is if we gain promotion.

Fat chance of that.

Other teams will look at this result and simply say '' if they cannot beat Scunthorpe they won't beat us''

The only way to get respect is to turn teams over on a regular basis, we have gone down in everyone's estimation with this defeat.

P iss poor Rovers, and a shambles from Bowyer.
The only way this debacle will be seen to be worth it is if we gain promotion. Fat chance of that. Other teams will look at this result and simply say '' if they cannot beat Scunthorpe they won't beat us'' The only way to get respect is to turn teams over on a regular basis, we have gone down in everyone's estimation with this defeat. P iss poor Rovers, and a shambles from Bowyer. thelincolnshirepoacher
  • Score: 10

2:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

MxMave says...

It really isn't a case of "swapping 10 players caused this loss". Our second 11 should still be a country mile better than Scunthorpe's first 11.
It wasn't our youth team last night, it was our second 11, as has been mentioned these are players who sit on the subs bench and will be main players should injury occur.

It goes a way to explain why Bowyer doesn't feel the need to use subs in league games.

The best football i've seen lately from Rovers was pre-season second half vs telford fc when all the first team players were replaced by the youth team. Granted it was Rochina who turned the tide but you had better performances from Green, O'sullivan, O'connell than from Rhodes, Cairney and Hanley.

Speaking with some leeds fans recently and they couldn't believe we took Varney. They rated him as the most useless player on the Leeds books.
It really isn't a case of "swapping 10 players caused this loss". Our second 11 should still be a country mile better than Scunthorpe's first 11. It wasn't our youth team last night, it was our second 11, as has been mentioned these are players who sit on the subs bench and will be main players should injury occur. It goes a way to explain why Bowyer doesn't feel the need to use subs in league games. The best football i've seen lately from Rovers was pre-season second half vs telford fc when all the first team players were replaced by the youth team. Granted it was Rochina who turned the tide but you had better performances from Green, O'sullivan, O'connell than from Rhodes, Cairney and Hanley. Speaking with some leeds fans recently and they couldn't believe we took Varney. They rated him as the most useless player on the Leeds books. MxMave
  • Score: 4

2:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

garry_stockton says...

Bazzer, Baldie where are you ....................
.............please give us your thoughts
Bazzer, Baldie where are you .................... .............please give us your thoughts garry_stockton
  • Score: -8

2:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Its Only a game boy wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading
Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......
Fool if you think its over
[quote][p][bold]Its Only a game boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading[/p][/quote]Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......[/p][/quote]Fool if you think its over hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -2

3:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Its Only a game boy wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading
Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......
Fool if you think its over
IT IS NOW
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Its Only a game boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading[/p][/quote]Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......[/p][/quote]Fool if you think its over[/p][/quote]IT IS NOW benal13
  • Score: 4

3:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dangerous dave says...

Bloody idiot gb more of the same like last season and you said raring to go what a set of muppets you deserve what you get!!
Out with the cowboys and indians
Bloody idiot gb more of the same like last season and you said raring to go what a set of muppets you deserve what you get!! Out with the cowboys and indians dangerous dave
  • Score: 7

3:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

crankitup wrote:
benal13 wrote:
crankitup wrote:
still waiting for the apology Gary.....you can blame the players if you want but YOU pick the team.....I bet you apologised to the chicken pluckers for the lost revenue due to the early exit......AGAIN
did you mean to write pluckers good comment anyway
oooops yes mate and thanks ;-)
just thought you hit wrong keys at begining of pluckers??????
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: still waiting for the apology Gary.....you can blame the players if you want but YOU pick the team.....I bet you apologised to the chicken pluckers for the lost revenue due to the early exit......AGAIN[/p][/quote]did you mean to write pluckers good comment anyway[/p][/quote]oooops yes mate and thanks ;-)[/p][/quote]just thought you hit wrong keys at begining of pluckers?????? benal13
  • Score: 1

3:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

McClaret wrote:
GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football.
Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game.
The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold.
Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.
We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they.
[quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football. Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game. The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold. Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.[/p][/quote]We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

3:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

McClaret wrote:
GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football.
Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game.
The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold.
Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.
We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they.
[quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football. Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game. The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold. Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.[/p][/quote]We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

3:26pm Wed 13 Aug 14

garry_stockton says...

Bazzer, Baldie.........bashi
ng the Bishop by any chance?
Wheres Brown the star signing ?
Agent Bowyer always comes up with the goods !!
Blackpool next, at least you will be in good company with the seaside donkeys.
Bloody long season ahead,
Dont forget FFP
Bazzer, Baldie.........bashi ng the Bishop by any chance? Wheres Brown the star signing ? Agent Bowyer always comes up with the goods !! Blackpool next, at least you will be in good company with the seaside donkeys. Bloody long season ahead, Dont forget FFP garry_stockton
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

34 years says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Its Only a game boy wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading
Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......
Fool if you think its over
Driving home for Christmas?
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Its Only a game boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading[/p][/quote]Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......[/p][/quote]Fool if you think its over[/p][/quote]Driving home for Christmas? 34 years
  • Score: -5

3:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

harwoodblue says...

Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.
Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000. harwoodblue
  • Score: -1

3:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

juanbbien wrote:
We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading
Injuries are part and parcel of the game for every team, always have been and always will be. You don't make ten changes because you might get an injury or two. It was poor judgement and underestimating the opposition.
I don't care about being out of the cup, but last night was a great opportunit to build some confidence and momentum in the early part of the season. An opportunity thrown away.
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading[/p][/quote]Injuries are part and parcel of the game for every team, always have been and always will be. You don't make ten changes because you might get an injury or two. It was poor judgement and underestimating the opposition. I don't care about being out of the cup, but last night was a great opportunit to build some confidence and momentum in the early part of the season. An opportunity thrown away. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

3:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

you're always complaining says...

Jr11BRFC wrote:
My team for the weekend at blackpool would have to be:

Robinson


Lowe Baptiste Hanley Olsson


Evans
Marshall/King Cairney Conway


Rhodes Gestede
You would make as good a manager as Steve Kean. Yes we would stand a better chance of beating Blackpool, but, you cannot start with 12 players!

Surely this was a good opportunity to getting that winning mentality in the squad and go on a cup run and hopefully reduce some debt (not nearly enough) what with ffp looming.

People should not berate Bowyer given the stability he has brought to the club but his hands are tied to a large extent. I don't know the difference in wage between Varney and Rochina but clearly it was substantial. Though a luxury player, Rochina could have made the difference last night and against Cardiff, Varney could not! That said a draw vs Cardiff isn't a bad result, just a shame given the possession we had and the lack of ambition to go and get a goal. If we are to become draw specialists (like throughout our pre season) then we stand no chance of promotion.

Another article without any opinion or judgement, what is the point having the journalistic stage and giving the reader nothing interesting or thoughtful.

Lastly, I have never read an article about Burnley because I could not give a rats arse about them. Why is there a web of them obsessed with Blackburn, albeit a small minority.
[quote][p][bold]Jr11BRFC[/bold] wrote: My team for the weekend at blackpool would have to be: Robinson Lowe Baptiste Hanley Olsson Evans Marshall/King Cairney Conway Rhodes Gestede[/p][/quote]You would make as good a manager as Steve Kean. Yes we would stand a better chance of beating Blackpool, but, you cannot start with 12 players! Surely this was a good opportunity to getting that winning mentality in the squad and go on a cup run and hopefully reduce some debt (not nearly enough) what with ffp looming. People should not berate Bowyer given the stability he has brought to the club but his hands are tied to a large extent. I don't know the difference in wage between Varney and Rochina but clearly it was substantial. Though a luxury player, Rochina could have made the difference last night and against Cardiff, Varney could not! That said a draw vs Cardiff isn't a bad result, just a shame given the possession we had and the lack of ambition to go and get a goal. If we are to become draw specialists (like throughout our pre season) then we stand no chance of promotion. Another article without any opinion or judgement, what is the point having the journalistic stage and giving the reader nothing interesting or thoughtful. Lastly, I have never read an article about Burnley because I could not give a rats arse about them. Why is there a web of them obsessed with Blackburn, albeit a small minority. you're always complaining
  • Score: 1

3:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

burnleyglentoran says...

The GJudge wrote:
Disrespectful to the paying public. This was an appalling result and the manager has to take full responsibility. The owners should ask him why he fielded such a changed side they had 24 hours more rest than most championship sides, so these namby pamby footballers can't say they were 'tired' playing two games in such a short period of time. What a wasted opportunity for some much needed impetus of fund from a lucrative tie with a premiership side a good possibility gone begging the owners should ask why not start with a strong side and give the younger players a chance once the game is won so to speak. I would sack G.B. immediately as he has to take full responsibility, his choice his motivation or lack of it, bad judgement. Bring in David Moyes we are as big a club as Everton. You know it makes sense The Judge
Bring in moyes 'we're as big as Everton!'

And despite starting a 3rd season in the 'chumpionship' as you used to call it before walkers money ran out.

Everton have never been out of the top flight EVER.

FACT

You only got there cos of the tax avoider from Jersey got you there assembled a team of mercenaries and bought the title.

BRKFC - Believing people would actually want to book a ticket on the football equivalent of the titanic - HMS BOL-EWOOD!
[quote][p][bold]The GJudge[/bold] wrote: Disrespectful to the paying public. This was an appalling result and the manager has to take full responsibility. The owners should ask him why he fielded such a changed side they had 24 hours more rest than most championship sides, so these namby pamby footballers can't say they were 'tired' playing two games in such a short period of time. What a wasted opportunity for some much needed impetus of fund from a lucrative tie with a premiership side a good possibility gone begging the owners should ask why not start with a strong side and give the younger players a chance once the game is won so to speak. I would sack G.B. immediately as he has to take full responsibility, his choice his motivation or lack of it, bad judgement. Bring in David Moyes we are as big a club as Everton. You know it makes sense The Judge[/p][/quote]Bring in moyes 'we're as big as Everton!' And despite starting a 3rd season in the 'chumpionship' as you used to call it before walkers money ran out. Everton have never been out of the top flight EVER. FACT You only got there cos of the tax avoider from Jersey got you there assembled a team of mercenaries and bought the title. BRKFC - Believing people would actually want to book a ticket on the football equivalent of the titanic - HMS BOL-EWOOD! burnleyglentoran
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

benal13 says...

harwoodblue wrote:
Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.
wha a load of cr@p
[quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.[/p][/quote]wha a load of cr@p benal13
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Pembina says...

benal13 wrote:
harwoodblue wrote:
Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.
wha a load of cr@p
NO it's not a load of cr@p - I agree 100% with harwoodblue, now let's put last nights game down to a bad day at the office
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.[/p][/quote]wha a load of cr@p[/p][/quote]NO it's not a load of cr@p - I agree 100% with harwoodblue, now let's put last nights game down to a bad day at the office Pembina
  • Score: -2

4:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

yyy's1 says...

There is no excuse for last nights defeat but there is a reason and that is the fact that our players are bog standard ordinary.
There is no excuse for last nights defeat but there is a reason and that is the fact that our players are bog standard ordinary. yyy's1
  • Score: 1

4:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Iiii1111 says...

Mr Bowyer this game wasn't a friendly...it was a fully competitive match that could have led to much needed funds and the possibility of the team gaining experience from playing against a quality team as the run progressed .

Why the heck would you play such a weakend team when we've just played numerous 'friendly' games pre-season which allowed you to assess the players in your squad....obviously you didn't learn anything from pre-season games or why else field such a team last night!

Two games in and two massive mistake made by you Mr bowyer....team selection yesterday and lack of substitutions/tactic
s against Cardiff when Cardiff were there for the taking.

Your negative cautious approach is going cost the club big time (already has) but more importantly for you your job loss .....you only have one chance, so grab it and have a little more self belief and a more adventurous attitude concerning team selection and tactics.
Mr Bowyer this game wasn't a friendly...it was a fully competitive match that could have led to much needed funds and the possibility of the team gaining experience from playing against a quality team as the run progressed . Why the heck would you play such a weakend team when we've just played numerous 'friendly' games pre-season which allowed you to assess the players in your squad....obviously you didn't learn anything from pre-season games or why else field such a team last night! Two games in and two massive mistake made by you Mr bowyer....team selection yesterday and lack of substitutions/tactic s against Cardiff when Cardiff were there for the taking. Your negative cautious approach is going cost the club big time (already has) but more importantly for you your job loss .....you only have one chance, so grab it and have a little more self belief and a more adventurous attitude concerning team selection and tactics. Iiii1111
  • Score: 6

4:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

The GJudge wrote:
Disrespectful to the paying public. This was an appalling result and the manager has to take full responsibility. The owners should ask him why he fielded such a changed side they had 24 hours more rest than most championship sides, so these namby pamby footballers can't say they were 'tired' playing two games in such a short period of time. What a wasted opportunity for some much needed impetus of fund from a lucrative tie with a premiership side a good possibility gone begging the owners should ask why not start with a strong side and give the younger players a chance once the game is won so to speak. I would sack G.B. immediately as he has to take full responsibility, his choice his motivation or lack of it, bad judgement. Bring in David Moyes we are as big a club as Everton. You know it makes sense The Judge
Bring David Moyes in we're as big as Everton?

Dingle alert or what
[quote][p][bold]The GJudge[/bold] wrote: Disrespectful to the paying public. This was an appalling result and the manager has to take full responsibility. The owners should ask him why he fielded such a changed side they had 24 hours more rest than most championship sides, so these namby pamby footballers can't say they were 'tired' playing two games in such a short period of time. What a wasted opportunity for some much needed impetus of fund from a lucrative tie with a premiership side a good possibility gone begging the owners should ask why not start with a strong side and give the younger players a chance once the game is won so to speak. I would sack G.B. immediately as he has to take full responsibility, his choice his motivation or lack of it, bad judgement. Bring in David Moyes we are as big a club as Everton. You know it makes sense The Judge[/p][/quote]Bring David Moyes in we're as big as Everton? Dingle alert or what more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 4

5:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

claytoner85 wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote:
Stirling effort agent Bowyer!

WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE

GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE
Remind us what the PNE vs Burnley score was a few weeks ago?

Even worse for you guys seeing as your Premier League big boys now eh
Remind me again did you win any games pre season or even now, oops sorry you did, you beat the mighty AFC Telford. Blinding result, but you couldn't beat the mighty Scunthorpe United could you.
[quote][p][bold]claytoner85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: Stirling effort agent Bowyer! WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE[/p][/quote]Remind us what the PNE vs Burnley score was a few weeks ago? Even worse for you guys seeing as your Premier League big boys now eh[/p][/quote]Remind me again did you win any games pre season or even now, oops sorry you did, you beat the mighty AFC Telford. Blinding result, but you couldn't beat the mighty Scunthorpe United could you. mjp 53
  • Score: 1

5:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The GJudge says...

I am intrigued by burnleyglentoran, who comments that we bought the league whilst entertaining the paying public week in week out, courtesy of Jack Walker and his entrepreneurial skills as well as his love of Blackburn Rovers. I am struggling with the Chelsea way of winning the title and I believe Man Utd spent far more in getting a squad sufficiently good enough to win it, also Arsenal another premiership winning side spent quite a few euro's/francs amassing their French contingent when they were competitive enough to compete for honours and the less said about Man city the latest winners the better. Case proved old boy back to Glentoran for you. You know it makes sense The Judge !!!!!!!
I am intrigued by burnleyglentoran, who comments that we bought the league whilst entertaining the paying public week in week out, courtesy of Jack Walker and his entrepreneurial skills as well as his love of Blackburn Rovers. I am struggling with the Chelsea way of winning the title and I believe Man Utd spent far more in getting a squad sufficiently good enough to win it, also Arsenal another premiership winning side spent quite a few euro's/francs amassing their French contingent when they were competitive enough to compete for honours and the less said about Man city the latest winners the better. Case proved old boy back to Glentoran for you. You know it makes sense The Judge !!!!!!! The GJudge
  • Score: 3

5:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
McClaret wrote:
GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football.
Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game.
The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold.
Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.
We can talk about the following 15 years aswell. You lot can talk about 1 game in how many decades? And why would losing to Scunthorpe bring back memories of Bonleh managing to score 1 more goal than us for the first time since Rocky III was released?

I dread to think what sort of sh*te you lot would come up with if you had actually done anything of note.
What like you beating AFC Telford, the only game you have won this season so far, mega blinding. If you don't get a result on Saturday then the cries of Bowyer out will be echoing around the East Lancashire moors. Don't forget we have already beat them this season and last if you want to be particular, so the pressure is really on you now !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football. Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game. The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold. Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.[/p][/quote]We can talk about the following 15 years aswell. You lot can talk about 1 game in how many decades? And why would losing to Scunthorpe bring back memories of Bonleh managing to score 1 more goal than us for the first time since Rocky III was released? I dread to think what sort of sh*te you lot would come up with if you had actually done anything of note.[/p][/quote]What like you beating AFC Telford, the only game you have won this season so far, mega blinding. If you don't get a result on Saturday then the cries of Bowyer out will be echoing around the East Lancashire moors. Don't forget we have already beat them this season and last if you want to be particular, so the pressure is really on you now !!!!! mjp 53
  • Score: 1

6:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

harwoodblue wrote:
Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.
Just over 5000 and you have the cheek to call us for our crowds, well its only going to get lower from here on in. Defeat to Blackpool, then Norwich and your seasons over before its started. BRFC the comedy footballing circus that keeps giving.
[quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.[/p][/quote]Just over 5000 and you have the cheek to call us for our crowds, well its only going to get lower from here on in. Defeat to Blackpool, then Norwich and your seasons over before its started. BRFC the comedy footballing circus that keeps giving. mjp 53
  • Score: 2

6:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

yyy's1 wrote:
There is no excuse for last nights defeat but there is a reason and that is the fact that our players are bog standard ordinary.
No squad depth as well and its going to cost you big time
[quote][p][bold]yyy's1[/bold] wrote: There is no excuse for last nights defeat but there is a reason and that is the fact that our players are bog standard ordinary.[/p][/quote]No squad depth as well and its going to cost you big time mjp 53
  • Score: 2

6:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

Its Only a game boy wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading
Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......
The Road To Hell, you couldn't make it up, Chicken Stock to Laughing Stock.
[quote][p][bold]Its Only a game boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading[/p][/quote]Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......[/p][/quote]The Road To Hell, you couldn't make it up, Chicken Stock to Laughing Stock. mjp 53
  • Score: 0

6:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

Its Only a game boy wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading
Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......
The Road To Hell, you couldn't make it up, Chicken Stock to Laughing Stock.
[quote][p][bold]Its Only a game boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: We are now frightened to play players In case they get injured,where the hell are we heading[/p][/quote]Chris Rea sang a song about your boys......[/p][/quote]The Road To Hell, you couldn't make it up, Chicken Stock to Laughing Stock. mjp 53
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

themaltaman says...

Bowyer , you are a disgrace, out of your depth, VENKYS GET RID NOW , BEFORE THE ROT SETS IN. Same excuses, said he didn't want to go out like last season, any Rovers fans who seriously thinks he is the right man, THINK AGAIN. WOEFUL.
Bowyer , you are a disgrace, out of your depth, VENKYS GET RID NOW , BEFORE THE ROT SETS IN. Same excuses, said he didn't want to go out like last season, any Rovers fans who seriously thinks he is the right man, THINK AGAIN. WOEFUL. themaltaman
  • Score: 2

6:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

you're always complaining wrote:
Jr11BRFC wrote:
My team for the weekend at blackpool would have to be:

Robinson


Lowe Baptiste Hanley Olsson


Evans
Marshall/King Cairney Conway


Rhodes Gestede
You would make as good a manager as Steve Kean. Yes we would stand a better chance of beating Blackpool, but, you cannot start with 12 players!

Surely this was a good opportunity to getting that winning mentality in the squad and go on a cup run and hopefully reduce some debt (not nearly enough) what with ffp looming.

People should not berate Bowyer given the stability he has brought to the club but his hands are tied to a large extent. I don't know the difference in wage between Varney and Rochina but clearly it was substantial. Though a luxury player, Rochina could have made the difference last night and against Cardiff, Varney could not! That said a draw vs Cardiff isn't a bad result, just a shame given the possession we had and the lack of ambition to go and get a goal. If we are to become draw specialists (like throughout our pre season) then we stand no chance of promotion.

Another article without any opinion or judgement, what is the point having the journalistic stage and giving the reader nothing interesting or thoughtful.

Lastly, I have never read an article about Burnley because I could not give a rats arse about them. Why is there a web of them obsessed with Blackburn, albeit a small minority.
Because we have a similar amount of Rovers fans on our threads, some with good comments, some with just stupid comments.
Whilst you have players on £30K or more per week you are going to be in trouble and it will only get worse when FFP kicks in.
The one thing that can be said about Burnley is that the club is being run in the correct way, where we are no longer in debt and have a fair amount of financial stability. That's what Blackburn need to achieve, but unfortunately Bowyer is not the man to do it, I think he has peaked at this sort of level and you need to look elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]you're always complaining[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jr11BRFC[/bold] wrote: My team for the weekend at blackpool would have to be: Robinson Lowe Baptiste Hanley Olsson Evans Marshall/King Cairney Conway Rhodes Gestede[/p][/quote]You would make as good a manager as Steve Kean. Yes we would stand a better chance of beating Blackpool, but, you cannot start with 12 players! Surely this was a good opportunity to getting that winning mentality in the squad and go on a cup run and hopefully reduce some debt (not nearly enough) what with ffp looming. People should not berate Bowyer given the stability he has brought to the club but his hands are tied to a large extent. I don't know the difference in wage between Varney and Rochina but clearly it was substantial. Though a luxury player, Rochina could have made the difference last night and against Cardiff, Varney could not! That said a draw vs Cardiff isn't a bad result, just a shame given the possession we had and the lack of ambition to go and get a goal. If we are to become draw specialists (like throughout our pre season) then we stand no chance of promotion. Another article without any opinion or judgement, what is the point having the journalistic stage and giving the reader nothing interesting or thoughtful. Lastly, I have never read an article about Burnley because I could not give a rats arse about them. Why is there a web of them obsessed with Blackburn, albeit a small minority.[/p][/quote]Because we have a similar amount of Rovers fans on our threads, some with good comments, some with just stupid comments. Whilst you have players on £30K or more per week you are going to be in trouble and it will only get worse when FFP kicks in. The one thing that can be said about Burnley is that the club is being run in the correct way, where we are no longer in debt and have a fair amount of financial stability. That's what Blackburn need to achieve, but unfortunately Bowyer is not the man to do it, I think he has peaked at this sort of level and you need to look elsewhere. mjp 53
  • Score: 2

6:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

owd nick says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
fitz808 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
I agree with what you are saying but doesn' it show that our squad isn't as strong as Bowyer thinks it is.
According to Bowyer yesterday he wanted to make progress in this competition but hasn't learned that you can't field a drastically weakened team and expect to win. It happened at Carlisle last year and happened again last night. The point is if he wants to make progress, he needs to learn from his mistakes quick.
Have to agree.

If I had been the Scunthorpe manager last night I would have thanked GB for making it easy to motivate my team, "Hey guy's, Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney and the rest aren't playing tonight, couple of kids in defence, no outright striker, and a midfield good at running around in circles, he must think you are really crap, go out and prove him wrong".

Job done.

10 changes was ridiculous, especially with two young, totally untried centre halves, one making his debut, 6 or 7 changes maximum and I suspect we would have been ok.

I hope this comes as a wakeup call to everyone at Ewood, sides aren't going to lay down and surrender, we are going to have to fight to win every point this season even more than last.

I keep seeing comments about the Blackpool game and how crap they are, and how easy it will be to beat them, well I hope that GB and the team he selects don't expect them to roll over like many fans do, because that is a banana skin of gigantic proportions if that is the case.

Take each game as it comes, treat each opponent with respect not contempt or fear and go all out to win.

Be professional, because last nights performance was the most unprofessional display I have ever seen from a Rovers side.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that[/p][/quote]I agree with what you are saying but doesn' it show that our squad isn't as strong as Bowyer thinks it is. According to Bowyer yesterday he wanted to make progress in this competition but hasn't learned that you can't field a drastically weakened team and expect to win. It happened at Carlisle last year and happened again last night. The point is if he wants to make progress, he needs to learn from his mistakes quick.[/p][/quote]Have to agree. If I had been the Scunthorpe manager last night I would have thanked GB for making it easy to motivate my team, "Hey guy's, Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney and the rest aren't playing tonight, couple of kids in defence, no outright striker, and a midfield good at running around in circles, he must think you are really crap, go out and prove him wrong". Job done. 10 changes was ridiculous, especially with two young, totally untried centre halves, one making his debut, 6 or 7 changes maximum and I suspect we would have been ok. I hope this comes as a wakeup call to everyone at Ewood, sides aren't going to lay down and surrender, we are going to have to fight to win every point this season even more than last. I keep seeing comments about the Blackpool game and how crap they are, and how easy it will be to beat them, well I hope that GB and the team he selects don't expect them to roll over like many fans do, because that is a banana skin of gigantic proportions if that is the case. Take each game as it comes, treat each opponent with respect not contempt or fear and go all out to win. Be professional, because last nights performance was the most unprofessional display I have ever seen from a Rovers side. owd nick
  • Score: 1

6:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Richard Oakley says...

It wasn't the result I wanted or the team I'd expected Judging from the crowd, it was exactly what they were expecting.

Bowyer expected to pick 11 players and have them gel despite not playing together before and state their cases to make the starting 11. Mark Hughes put his finger on the pulse, our first 11 is quite capable of achieving promotion, provided they don't get injured. The result last night vindicated that view and explains Bowyer's reluctance to bring any of them on as subs.

The match confirmed a number of things. Williamson isn't worth a new contract. Taylor need t be moved on. Marshall is a target of Sheffield Wednesday. Varney isn't capable of playing up front. As a centre back , he'd allow Blackburn Rovers to terminate Baptiste's loan immediately for picking up a police caution.

The performance and result added fuel to Bowyer's plea to Venkys to provide him with the funds to bring in fresh players and that doesn't just mean players on loan. If Venkys are sincere about returning to the Premiership, money must be made available and Bowyer's judgement trusted.
It wasn't the result I wanted or the team I'd expected Judging from the crowd, it was exactly what they were expecting. Bowyer expected to pick 11 players and have them gel despite not playing together before and state their cases to make the starting 11. Mark Hughes put his finger on the pulse, our first 11 is quite capable of achieving promotion, provided they don't get injured. The result last night vindicated that view and explains Bowyer's reluctance to bring any of them on as subs. The match confirmed a number of things. Williamson isn't worth a new contract. Taylor need t be moved on. Marshall is a target of Sheffield Wednesday. Varney isn't capable of playing up front. As a centre back , he'd allow Blackburn Rovers to terminate Baptiste's loan immediately for picking up a police caution. The performance and result added fuel to Bowyer's plea to Venkys to provide him with the funds to bring in fresh players and that doesn't just mean players on loan. If Venkys are sincere about returning to the Premiership, money must be made available and Bowyer's judgement trusted. Richard Oakley
  • Score: 1

6:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

DoggydogNo1 says...

harwoodblue wrote:
Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.
Mickey Mouse cup now is it? What was it when you won it? Pure luck? Ya gt yer bums kicked and were made to look like a non league outfit. Accept it and move onto yer next defeat with grace!
[quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Why would you risk, any first team player on a mickey mouse cup game against Scunthorpe if Rhodes had been playing they would of just hacked him down every time he got the ball risking injury and risking points in the league, the league cup is a reserve cup, if you are a mid table prem club then you can use it as a chance to get into Europe but surely the only focus this season is to get promotion what good would getting to the quarter/semi finals of this competition do us. Its all about the league and thats why the crowd was only just over 5000.[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse cup now is it? What was it when you won it? Pure luck? Ya gt yer bums kicked and were made to look like a non league outfit. Accept it and move onto yer next defeat with grace! DoggydogNo1
  • Score: 0

6:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

owd nick says...

Richard Oakley wrote:
It wasn't the result I wanted or the team I'd expected Judging from the crowd, it was exactly what they were expecting.

Bowyer expected to pick 11 players and have them gel despite not playing together before and state their cases to make the starting 11. Mark Hughes put his finger on the pulse, our first 11 is quite capable of achieving promotion, provided they don't get injured. The result last night vindicated that view and explains Bowyer's reluctance to bring any of them on as subs.

The match confirmed a number of things. Williamson isn't worth a new contract. Taylor need t be moved on. Marshall is a target of Sheffield Wednesday. Varney isn't capable of playing up front. As a centre back , he'd allow Blackburn Rovers to terminate Baptiste's loan immediately for picking up a police caution.

The performance and result added fuel to Bowyer's plea to Venkys to provide him with the funds to bring in fresh players and that doesn't just mean players on loan. If Venkys are sincere about returning to the Premiership, money must be made available and Bowyer's judgement trusted.
Venky's cannot "make funds available" FFP.
[quote][p][bold]Richard Oakley[/bold] wrote: It wasn't the result I wanted or the team I'd expected Judging from the crowd, it was exactly what they were expecting. Bowyer expected to pick 11 players and have them gel despite not playing together before and state their cases to make the starting 11. Mark Hughes put his finger on the pulse, our first 11 is quite capable of achieving promotion, provided they don't get injured. The result last night vindicated that view and explains Bowyer's reluctance to bring any of them on as subs. The match confirmed a number of things. Williamson isn't worth a new contract. Taylor need t be moved on. Marshall is a target of Sheffield Wednesday. Varney isn't capable of playing up front. As a centre back , he'd allow Blackburn Rovers to terminate Baptiste's loan immediately for picking up a police caution. The performance and result added fuel to Bowyer's plea to Venkys to provide him with the funds to bring in fresh players and that doesn't just mean players on loan. If Venkys are sincere about returning to the Premiership, money must be made available and Bowyer's judgement trusted.[/p][/quote]Venky's cannot "make funds available" FFP. owd nick
  • Score: 1

6:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

The GJudge wrote:
I am intrigued by burnleyglentoran, who comments that we bought the league whilst entertaining the paying public week in week out, courtesy of Jack Walker and his entrepreneurial skills as well as his love of Blackburn Rovers. I am struggling with the Chelsea way of winning the title and I believe Man Utd spent far more in getting a squad sufficiently good enough to win it, also Arsenal another premiership winning side spent quite a few euro's/francs amassing their French contingent when they were competitive enough to compete for honours and the less said about Man city the latest winners the better. Case proved old boy back to Glentoran for you. You know it makes sense The Judge !!!!!!!
Your honour, Burnley Glentornarse doesn't understand that all the big clubs 'buy' the titie. That's why it's the same 'rich' clubs that win it every year. He finds it difficult to understand why ' poor ' little Bonleh can't win it like their more illustrious neighbours, the mighty Blackburn Rovers.
Their problem now is that their name will never be on the trophy next to ours.......FFP, 'which they voted for' will make sure of that. Shooting yourself in the foot ?
Please be lenient with him.
[quote][p][bold]The GJudge[/bold] wrote: I am intrigued by burnleyglentoran, who comments that we bought the league whilst entertaining the paying public week in week out, courtesy of Jack Walker and his entrepreneurial skills as well as his love of Blackburn Rovers. I am struggling with the Chelsea way of winning the title and I believe Man Utd spent far more in getting a squad sufficiently good enough to win it, also Arsenal another premiership winning side spent quite a few euro's/francs amassing their French contingent when they were competitive enough to compete for honours and the less said about Man city the latest winners the better. Case proved old boy back to Glentoran for you. You know it makes sense The Judge !!!!!!![/p][/quote]Your honour, Burnley Glentornarse doesn't understand that all the big clubs 'buy' the titie. That's why it's the same 'rich' clubs that win it every year. He finds it difficult to understand why ' poor ' little Bonleh can't win it like their more illustrious neighbours, the mighty Blackburn Rovers. Their problem now is that their name will never be on the trophy next to ours.......FFP, 'which they voted for' will make sure of that. Shooting yourself in the foot ? Please be lenient with him. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

7:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

owd nick wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
fitz808 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome.
We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season.
I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows.
Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time
Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.
But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players.
Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest.
We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that
I agree with what you are saying but doesn' it show that our squad isn't as strong as Bowyer thinks it is.
According to Bowyer yesterday he wanted to make progress in this competition but hasn't learned that you can't field a drastically weakened team and expect to win. It happened at Carlisle last year and happened again last night. The point is if he wants to make progress, he needs to learn from his mistakes quick.
Have to agree.

If I had been the Scunthorpe manager last night I would have thanked GB for making it easy to motivate my team, "Hey guy's, Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney and the rest aren't playing tonight, couple of kids in defence, no outright striker, and a midfield good at running around in circles, he must think you are really crap, go out and prove him wrong".

Job done.

10 changes was ridiculous, especially with two young, totally untried centre halves, one making his debut, 6 or 7 changes maximum and I suspect we would have been ok.

I hope this comes as a wakeup call to everyone at Ewood, sides aren't going to lay down and surrender, we are going to have to fight to win every point this season even more than last.

I keep seeing comments about the Blackpool game and how crap they are, and how easy it will be to beat them, well I hope that GB and the team he selects don't expect them to roll over like many fans do, because that is a banana skin of gigantic proportions if that is the case.

Take each game as it comes, treat each opponent with respect not contempt or fear and go all out to win.

Be professional, because last nights performance was the most unprofessional display I have ever seen from a Rovers side.
Hi Owd nic. I couldn't believe it when I saw the line up especially after the Carlisle game last year. I thought Bowyer might have been a little more determined this time by naming a stronger team. My biggest disappointment was that we didn't use the game to build confidence and gain some momentum to give us a decent start to the season. If we had some of the big guns on from the start and could have played like we did against Cardiff we should have beaten Scunthorpe out of sight.
Let's hope he can fire them up to get a result at Blackpool.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: GB it was you who fielded a drastically weakened team against inferior opposition for the second year running with the same outcome. We didn't learn from the Carlisle game in the first round last season. I don't think we have a strong enough squad to give us the luxury of 10 changes and it shows. Of course we need to give the young ones a chance some time[/p][/quote]Sorry I seem to have got disconnected somehow. I was going to say we need to give the young ones a chance sometime but they need to be introduced into the 'first team' gradually to give them confidence. No one will have gained any confidence from last nights performance except perhaps O'Connell. We need to learn from our mistakes. More unnecessary pressure for Saturday.[/p][/quote]But this is a tough call isn't it. Had a cairney or Evans or Rhodes been injured in the process of hammering Scunthorpe 4-0, at home, some might have been just as eager to come on here and criticise the selection of such senior players. Our backup squad played badly last night and that's a shame, but it has happened. The reasons for using those players are sound enough. You suggest a better split between the first team and the reserves should have been used, but what would that have meant. Basically, given that we are short of cover at the back, we would have probably had the same back four as last night anyway, so as not to risk our thin first team squad. So that would have meant using most of our first team midfield and attack. Not worth the risk I would suggest. We've had a poor game. Let's not make more out of it than that[/p][/quote]I agree with what you are saying but doesn' it show that our squad isn't as strong as Bowyer thinks it is. According to Bowyer yesterday he wanted to make progress in this competition but hasn't learned that you can't field a drastically weakened team and expect to win. It happened at Carlisle last year and happened again last night. The point is if he wants to make progress, he needs to learn from his mistakes quick.[/p][/quote]Have to agree. If I had been the Scunthorpe manager last night I would have thanked GB for making it easy to motivate my team, "Hey guy's, Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney and the rest aren't playing tonight, couple of kids in defence, no outright striker, and a midfield good at running around in circles, he must think you are really crap, go out and prove him wrong". Job done. 10 changes was ridiculous, especially with two young, totally untried centre halves, one making his debut, 6 or 7 changes maximum and I suspect we would have been ok. I hope this comes as a wakeup call to everyone at Ewood, sides aren't going to lay down and surrender, we are going to have to fight to win every point this season even more than last. I keep seeing comments about the Blackpool game and how crap they are, and how easy it will be to beat them, well I hope that GB and the team he selects don't expect them to roll over like many fans do, because that is a banana skin of gigantic proportions if that is the case. Take each game as it comes, treat each opponent with respect not contempt or fear and go all out to win. Be professional, because last nights performance was the most unprofessional display I have ever seen from a Rovers side.[/p][/quote]Hi Owd nic. I couldn't believe it when I saw the line up especially after the Carlisle game last year. I thought Bowyer might have been a little more determined this time by naming a stronger team. My biggest disappointment was that we didn't use the game to build confidence and gain some momentum to give us a decent start to the season. If we had some of the big guns on from the start and could have played like we did against Cardiff we should have beaten Scunthorpe out of sight. Let's hope he can fire them up to get a result at Blackpool. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

7:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

P7CKP1943 says...

Time the manager accepted some of the blame what sence is there in making 10 changes from the last match.hate picking out one player but
Varney is a complete waste of space.we use to have goodcup runs.but this managers a complete joke withhis team selection Ive been watching
BRFC for over 60 years this tactical display was the pits?.
Time the manager accepted some of the blame what sence is there in making 10 changes from the last match.hate picking out one player but Varney is a complete waste of space.we use to have goodcup runs.but this managers a complete joke withhis team selection Ive been watching BRFC for over 60 years this tactical display was the pits?. P7CKP1943
  • Score: 5

7:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Richard Oakley wrote:
It wasn't the result I wanted or the team I'd expected Judging from the crowd, it was exactly what they were expecting.

Bowyer expected to pick 11 players and have them gel despite not playing together before and state their cases to make the starting 11. Mark Hughes put his finger on the pulse, our first 11 is quite capable of achieving promotion, provided they don't get injured. The result last night vindicated that view and explains Bowyer's reluctance to bring any of them on as subs.

The match confirmed a number of things. Williamson isn't worth a new contract. Taylor need t be moved on. Marshall is a target of Sheffield Wednesday. Varney isn't capable of playing up front. As a centre back , he'd allow Blackburn Rovers to terminate Baptiste's loan immediately for picking up a police caution.

The performance and result added fuel to Bowyer's plea to Venkys to provide him with the funds to bring in fresh players and that doesn't just mean players on loan. If Venkys are sincere about returning to the Premiership, money must be made available and Bowyer's judgement trusted.
GB cannot expect to get fresh players every time he gets a bad result or he gets a player that doesn't perform as he expected. He must work on the players he has got and get the best from them and virtually stand or fall by his decisions. We cannot continue to use the solution to get a new player, or we need more players every time we feel things aren't going to plan. A good manager will assemble a squad and work with come what may like S.D has done at Burnley. If GB cannot coach and get the best out these existing players and apply the right tactics in order to have a successful season then maybe he is not quite up to the job as much as he thinks. Time will tell over the coming season.
[quote][p][bold]Richard Oakley[/bold] wrote: It wasn't the result I wanted or the team I'd expected Judging from the crowd, it was exactly what they were expecting. Bowyer expected to pick 11 players and have them gel despite not playing together before and state their cases to make the starting 11. Mark Hughes put his finger on the pulse, our first 11 is quite capable of achieving promotion, provided they don't get injured. The result last night vindicated that view and explains Bowyer's reluctance to bring any of them on as subs. The match confirmed a number of things. Williamson isn't worth a new contract. Taylor need t be moved on. Marshall is a target of Sheffield Wednesday. Varney isn't capable of playing up front. As a centre back , he'd allow Blackburn Rovers to terminate Baptiste's loan immediately for picking up a police caution. The performance and result added fuel to Bowyer's plea to Venkys to provide him with the funds to bring in fresh players and that doesn't just mean players on loan. If Venkys are sincere about returning to the Premiership, money must be made available and Bowyer's judgement trusted.[/p][/quote]GB cannot expect to get fresh players every time he gets a bad result or he gets a player that doesn't perform as he expected. He must work on the players he has got and get the best from them and virtually stand or fall by his decisions. We cannot continue to use the solution to get a new player, or we need more players every time we feel things aren't going to plan. A good manager will assemble a squad and work with come what may like S.D has done at Burnley. If GB cannot coach and get the best out these existing players and apply the right tactics in order to have a successful season then maybe he is not quite up to the job as much as he thinks. Time will tell over the coming season. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 1

7:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

McClaret says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
McClaret wrote:
GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football.
Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game.
The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold.
Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.
We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they.
Hi Harwood, tis true and was one in the eye for the usual suspects. It told the rest that if they spend enough then they can win it, and the rest is history as they say. Gone are either of our teams hopes of ever wining the top division of English football again.
Particularly liked the post re Blackburn being as big as Everton. I would love him to say that to the Everton fans I know, they would tear strips off him.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football. Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game. The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold. Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.[/p][/quote]We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they.[/p][/quote]Hi Harwood, tis true and was one in the eye for the usual suspects. It told the rest that if they spend enough then they can win it, and the rest is history as they say. Gone are either of our teams hopes of ever wining the top division of English football again. Particularly liked the post re Blackburn being as big as Everton. I would love him to say that to the Everton fans I know, they would tear strips off him. McClaret
  • Score: 0

7:55pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The Seagull has landed says...

French Rover wrote:
Terrible performance and an insult to the fans that paid to watch the Rovers last night. I heard that Lowe and O`Connor were the only two that came out of the game with any credit. I am not too bothered by going out of this competition really, but in the first round again> And to Scunthorpe? Poor.

Good opportunity for Rovers to make amends to the fans on Saturday at Blackpool though. No excuses, it is a game that we should win easily.
The trade mark arrogance of a no-dad. "A game we should win easily".

You should have won easily last night but look what happened? Pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Terrible performance and an insult to the fans that paid to watch the Rovers last night. I heard that Lowe and O`Connor were the only two that came out of the game with any credit. I am not too bothered by going out of this competition really, but in the first round again> And to Scunthorpe? Poor. Good opportunity for Rovers to make amends to the fans on Saturday at Blackpool though. No excuses, it is a game that we should win easily.[/p][/quote]The trade mark arrogance of a no-dad. "A game we should win easily". You should have won easily last night but look what happened? Pathetic. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: 2

8:04pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The Seagull has landed says...

claytoner85 wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote:
Stirling effort agent Bowyer!

WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE

GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE
Remind us what the PNE vs Burnley score was a few weeks ago?

Even worse for you guys seeing as your Premier League big boys now eh
Pre-season Bell sniff.
[quote][p][bold]claytoner85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: Stirling effort agent Bowyer! WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE[/p][/quote]Remind us what the PNE vs Burnley score was a few weeks ago? Even worse for you guys seeing as your Premier League big boys now eh[/p][/quote]Pre-season Bell sniff. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: 2

8:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mattytatty says...

Very dissapointing, however if GB wanted us to progress on he would have chose a better side. At the moment I think he is just concentrating on getting promoted. Which of course is what every rovers fan wants.
Very dissapointing, however if GB wanted us to progress on he would have chose a better side. At the moment I think he is just concentrating on getting promoted. Which of course is what every rovers fan wants. Mattytatty
  • Score: 0

9:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Gruesome stuff !
Gruesome stuff ! Road Runner Road Runner
  • Score: 0

9:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

McClaret wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
McClaret wrote:
GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football.
Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game.
The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold.
Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.
We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they.
Hi Harwood, tis true and was one in the eye for the usual suspects. It told the rest that if they spend enough then they can win it, and the rest is history as they say. Gone are either of our teams hopes of ever wining the top division of English football again.
Particularly liked the post re Blackburn being as big as Everton. I would love him to say that to the Everton fans I know, they would tear strips off him.
Correct Mc. Smalltown clubs like ours will never again be able to compete with the billionaires of Chelsea, City , Utd and Arsenal. The gulf between the top teams and the bottom is growing every year and FFP will see that it remains that way.
[quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football. Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game. The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold. Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.[/p][/quote]We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they.[/p][/quote]Hi Harwood, tis true and was one in the eye for the usual suspects. It told the rest that if they spend enough then they can win it, and the rest is history as they say. Gone are either of our teams hopes of ever wining the top division of English football again. Particularly liked the post re Blackburn being as big as Everton. I would love him to say that to the Everton fans I know, they would tear strips off him.[/p][/quote]Correct Mc. Smalltown clubs like ours will never again be able to compete with the billionaires of Chelsea, City , Utd and Arsenal. The gulf between the top teams and the bottom is growing every year and FFP will see that it remains that way. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Jr11BRFC says...

you're always complaining wrote:
Jr11BRFC wrote:
My team for the weekend at blackpool would have to be:

Robinson


Lowe Baptiste Hanley Olsson


Evans
Marshall/King Cairney Conway


Rhodes Gestede
You would make as good a manager as Steve Kean. Yes we would stand a better chance of beating Blackpool, but, you cannot start with 12 players!

Surely this was a good opportunity to getting that winning mentality in the squad and go on a cup run and hopefully reduce some debt (not nearly enough) what with ffp looming.

People should not berate Bowyer given the stability he has brought to the club but his hands are tied to a large extent. I don't know the difference in wage between Varney and Rochina but clearly it was substantial. Though a luxury player, Rochina could have made the difference last night and against Cardiff, Varney could not! That said a draw vs Cardiff isn't a bad result, just a shame given the possession we had and the lack of ambition to go and get a goal. If we are to become draw specialists (like throughout our pre season) then we stand no chance of promotion.

Another article without any opinion or judgement, what is the point having the journalistic stage and giving the reader nothing interesting or thoughtful.

Lastly, I have never read an article about Burnley because I could not give a rats arse about them. Why is there a web of them obsessed with Blackburn, albeit a small minority.
Are you ****, there is a forward slash between Marshall and King as I'm not sure wether Marshall is fit enough to start in a league game!
[quote][p][bold]you're always complaining[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jr11BRFC[/bold] wrote: My team for the weekend at blackpool would have to be: Robinson Lowe Baptiste Hanley Olsson Evans Marshall/King Cairney Conway Rhodes Gestede[/p][/quote]You would make as good a manager as Steve Kean. Yes we would stand a better chance of beating Blackpool, but, you cannot start with 12 players! Surely this was a good opportunity to getting that winning mentality in the squad and go on a cup run and hopefully reduce some debt (not nearly enough) what with ffp looming. People should not berate Bowyer given the stability he has brought to the club but his hands are tied to a large extent. I don't know the difference in wage between Varney and Rochina but clearly it was substantial. Though a luxury player, Rochina could have made the difference last night and against Cardiff, Varney could not! That said a draw vs Cardiff isn't a bad result, just a shame given the possession we had and the lack of ambition to go and get a goal. If we are to become draw specialists (like throughout our pre season) then we stand no chance of promotion. Another article without any opinion or judgement, what is the point having the journalistic stage and giving the reader nothing interesting or thoughtful. Lastly, I have never read an article about Burnley because I could not give a rats arse about them. Why is there a web of them obsessed with Blackburn, albeit a small minority.[/p][/quote]Are you ****, there is a forward slash between Marshall and King as I'm not sure wether Marshall is fit enough to start in a league game! Jr11BRFC
  • Score: 0

9:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
McClaret wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
McClaret wrote:
GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football.
Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game.
The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold.
Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.
We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they.
Hi Harwood, tis true and was one in the eye for the usual suspects. It told the rest that if they spend enough then they can win it, and the rest is history as they say. Gone are either of our teams hopes of ever wining the top division of English football again.
Particularly liked the post re Blackburn being as big as Everton. I would love him to say that to the Everton fans I know, they would tear strips off him.
Correct Mc. Smalltown clubs like ours will never again be able to compete with the billionaires of Chelsea, City , Utd and Arsenal. The gulf between the top teams and the bottom is growing every year and FFP will see that it remains that way.
PS Mc. Good luck next Monday. No matter what happens it will be a great atmosphere, enjoy it.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: GB obviously underestimates lower division football or you lack any quality in depth for championship football. Massive pressure for you to get a result at Blackpool, you can even take your boots there and might get a game. The sight of seeing Claret and Blue shirts celebrating in the Darwen End again must have brought it all back tenfold. Still you can have your memories and talk about winning the PL.[/p][/quote]We can Mc and no one can ever take that away, can they.[/p][/quote]Hi Harwood, tis true and was one in the eye for the usual suspects. It told the rest that if they spend enough then they can win it, and the rest is history as they say. Gone are either of our teams hopes of ever wining the top division of English football again. Particularly liked the post re Blackburn being as big as Everton. I would love him to say that to the Everton fans I know, they would tear strips off him.[/p][/quote]Correct Mc. Smalltown clubs like ours will never again be able to compete with the billionaires of Chelsea, City , Utd and Arsenal. The gulf between the top teams and the bottom is growing every year and FFP will see that it remains that way.[/p][/quote]PS Mc. Good luck next Monday. No matter what happens it will be a great atmosphere, enjoy it. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

9:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The GJudge says...

Is that the same Roadrunner who used to be on Rivals.net.??? You know it makes sense The Judge
Is that the same Roadrunner who used to be on Rivals.net.??? You know it makes sense The Judge The GJudge
  • Score: 0

10:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Old Alzheimer says...

I'm glad that I didn't 'shell out' my hard earned pension cash for a 'reserve fixture'.
Having said that I'm also glad that there are no 'first teamers' on the physio's table.
The term 'swings and roundabouts' springs to mind.

I reckon that the Manager has things pretty well worked out !!!!!
I'm glad that I didn't 'shell out' my hard earned pension cash for a 'reserve fixture'. Having said that I'm also glad that there are no 'first teamers' on the physio's table. The term 'swings and roundabouts' springs to mind. I reckon that the Manager has things pretty well worked out !!!!! Old Alzheimer
  • Score: 1

10:29pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

Old Alzheimer wrote:
I'm glad that I didn't 'shell out' my hard earned pension cash for a 'reserve fixture'.
Having said that I'm also glad that there are no 'first teamers' on the physio's table.
The term 'swings and roundabouts' springs to mind.

I reckon that the Manager has things pretty well worked out !!!!!
Strange one that, when Burnley played York City last season in round one we played our first choice 11, as we didn't have a massive squad we still did it and benefited from a 4 - 0 win, just surprised Bowyer did not take the same attitude as Sean Dyche.
[quote][p][bold]Old Alzheimer[/bold] wrote: I'm glad that I didn't 'shell out' my hard earned pension cash for a 'reserve fixture'. Having said that I'm also glad that there are no 'first teamers' on the physio's table. The term 'swings and roundabouts' springs to mind. I reckon that the Manager has things pretty well worked out !!!!![/p][/quote]Strange one that, when Burnley played York City last season in round one we played our first choice 11, as we didn't have a massive squad we still did it and benefited from a 4 - 0 win, just surprised Bowyer did not take the same attitude as Sean Dyche. mjp 53
  • Score: 2

10:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

I'm sorry lads but Bowyer has to go, backup players or not that was an absolute unadulterated disgrace. I'm ashamed to be associated with this football club after that disaster.

Blackburn Rovers 0 - 1 Scunthorpe?

Seriously? What the f@#k has happened to my Rovers?

Stick with Bowyer and make no mistake we are in for a torrid season, perhaps a relegation battle.

BOWYER OUT! Who's with me?
I'm sorry lads but Bowyer has to go, backup players or not that was an absolute unadulterated disgrace. I'm ashamed to be associated with this football club after that disaster. Blackburn Rovers 0 - 1 Scunthorpe? Seriously? What the f@#k has happened to my Rovers? Stick with Bowyer and make no mistake we are in for a torrid season, perhaps a relegation battle. BOWYER OUT! Who's with me? TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: 2

10:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

owd nick says...

mjp 53 wrote:
Old Alzheimer wrote:
I'm glad that I didn't 'shell out' my hard earned pension cash for a 'reserve fixture'.
Having said that I'm also glad that there are no 'first teamers' on the physio's table.
The term 'swings and roundabouts' springs to mind.

I reckon that the Manager has things pretty well worked out !!!!!
Strange one that, when Burnley played York City last season in round one we played our first choice 11, as we didn't have a massive squad we still did it and benefited from a 4 - 0 win, just surprised Bowyer did not take the same attitude as Sean Dyche.
Doesn't have a muff divers beard either.
[quote][p][bold]mjp 53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Alzheimer[/bold] wrote: I'm glad that I didn't 'shell out' my hard earned pension cash for a 'reserve fixture'. Having said that I'm also glad that there are no 'first teamers' on the physio's table. The term 'swings and roundabouts' springs to mind. I reckon that the Manager has things pretty well worked out !!!!![/p][/quote]Strange one that, when Burnley played York City last season in round one we played our first choice 11, as we didn't have a massive squad we still did it and benefited from a 4 - 0 win, just surprised Bowyer did not take the same attitude as Sean Dyche.[/p][/quote]Doesn't have a muff divers beard either. owd nick
  • Score: 0

11:04pm Wed 13 Aug 14

P7CKP1943 says...

Time to take stock lets be honest we need manager who knows what it takes to win matches when we play teams below us His tactics are totally
wrong .why on earth did he have to make 10 changes.Iv,e been watching
BRFC for over 60 years and the team and game plan was the pits no wonder the Burnley brigade are on cloud 9.We need a manager like Ian
Warnock who no,s how to win games like this andto get the best out of
players and win promotion.Please resign before its another season
wasted
Time to take stock lets be honest we need manager who knows what it takes to win matches when we play teams below us His tactics are totally wrong .why on earth did he have to make 10 changes.Iv,e been watching BRFC for over 60 years and the team and game plan was the pits no wonder the Burnley brigade are on cloud 9.We need a manager like Ian Warnock who no,s how to win games like this andto get the best out of players and win promotion.Please resign before its another season wasted P7CKP1943
  • Score: 1

11:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Maxrus says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
I'm sorry lads but Bowyer has to go, backup players or not that was an absolute unadulterated disgrace. I'm ashamed to be associated with this football club after that disaster.

Blackburn Rovers 0 - 1 Scunthorpe?

Seriously? What the f@#k has happened to my Rovers?

Stick with Bowyer and make no mistake we are in for a torrid season, perhaps a relegation battle.

BOWYER OUT! Who's with me?
Vlad the Impaler ?
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry lads but Bowyer has to go, backup players or not that was an absolute unadulterated disgrace. I'm ashamed to be associated with this football club after that disaster. Blackburn Rovers 0 - 1 Scunthorpe? Seriously? What the f@#k has happened to my Rovers? Stick with Bowyer and make no mistake we are in for a torrid season, perhaps a relegation battle. BOWYER OUT! Who's with me?[/p][/quote]Vlad the Impaler ? Maxrus
  • Score: 0

11:12pm Wed 13 Aug 14

owd nick says...

P7CKP1943 wrote:
Time to take stock lets be honest we need manager who knows what it takes to win matches when we play teams below us His tactics are totally
wrong .why on earth did he have to make 10 changes.Iv,e been watching
BRFC for over 60 years and the team and game plan was the pits no wonder the Burnley brigade are on cloud 9.We need a manager like Ian
Warnock who no,s how to win games like this andto get the best out of
players and win promotion.Please resign before its another season
wasted
Yawn.
[quote][p][bold]P7CKP1943[/bold] wrote: Time to take stock lets be honest we need manager who knows what it takes to win matches when we play teams below us His tactics are totally wrong .why on earth did he have to make 10 changes.Iv,e been watching BRFC for over 60 years and the team and game plan was the pits no wonder the Burnley brigade are on cloud 9.We need a manager like Ian Warnock who no,s how to win games like this andto get the best out of players and win promotion.Please resign before its another season wasted[/p][/quote]Yawn. owd nick
  • Score: -1

11:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

TurfMoorTom wrote:
Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.
More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th.

The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season.

Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team!

Disgraceful.

Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote: Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.[/p][/quote]More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th. The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season. Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team! Disgraceful. Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: 3

11:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Stone Island: says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
TurfMoorTom wrote:
Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.
More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th.

The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season.

Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team!

Disgraceful.

Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.
You're an absolute BELL END!
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote: Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.[/p][/quote]More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th. The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season. Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team! Disgraceful. Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.[/p][/quote]You're an absolute BELL END! Stone Island:
  • Score: 0

11:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

owd nick says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
TurfMoorTom wrote:
Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.
More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th.

The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season.

Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team!

Disgraceful.

Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.
The moron troll has finally flipped, it forgot to change identities when it was talking to itself.

YCMIU.
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote: Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.[/p][/quote]More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th. The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season. Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team! Disgraceful. Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.[/p][/quote]The moron troll has finally flipped, it forgot to change identities when it was talking to itself. YCMIU. owd nick
  • Score: 1

1:11am Thu 14 Aug 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

owd nick wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
TurfMoorTom wrote:
Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.
More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th.

The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season.

Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team!

Disgraceful.

Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.
The moron troll has finally flipped, it forgot to change identities when it was talking to itself.

YCMIU.
What a cracker this is. Like to know what he has been drinking or subtsance he has been on.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote: Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.[/p][/quote]More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th. The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season. Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team! Disgraceful. Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.[/p][/quote]The moron troll has finally flipped, it forgot to change identities when it was talking to itself. YCMIU.[/p][/quote]What a cracker this is. Like to know what he has been drinking or subtsance he has been on. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: -1

7:43am Thu 14 Aug 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Gruesome stuff !
are you back alive?
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Gruesome stuff ![/p][/quote]are you back alive? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 0

7:47am Thu 14 Aug 14

bburnrover says...

Hi
Reading the bits from Rovers fans and a few from well meaning Claret fans it seems obvious that GB does not know how to get his decent team to actually win matches. The entire coaching staff are part of it as the players are reluctant to take chances when closing in on the oppositions area they end up passing it back to eventually misplace a pass and lose the ball.i wonder where are our wingers?wingers/wide
men that can beat a man with skill and pace to get to the goal line to make that killer cross for a tap in? Are our widemen being restricted or told to keep possesion at all costs ?There is no flair in the team its being coached out of them.
Hi Reading the bits from Rovers fans and a few from well meaning Claret fans it seems obvious that GB does not know how to get his decent team to actually win matches. The entire coaching staff are part of it as the players are reluctant to take chances when closing in on the oppositions area they end up passing it back to eventually misplace a pass and lose the ball.i wonder where are our wingers?wingers/wide men that can beat a man with skill and pace to get to the goal line to make that killer cross for a tap in? Are our widemen being restricted or told to keep possesion at all costs ?There is no flair in the team its being coached out of them. bburnrover
  • Score: 0

8:05am Thu 14 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

owd nick wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
TurfMoorTom wrote:
Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.
More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th.

The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season.

Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team!

Disgraceful.

Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.
The moron troll has finally flipped, it forgot to change identities when it was talking to itself.

YCMIU.
Nice one nick, those kind of gems are missed when scrolling past the usual nonsense.

No opinion from me as I didn't go to the game but doesn't look like I missed much. Usual hysteria on here but I see a a lot of it is Trolls and Clarets stirring it up.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote: Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.[/p][/quote]More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th. The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season. Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team! Disgraceful. Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.[/p][/quote]The moron troll has finally flipped, it forgot to change identities when it was talking to itself. YCMIU.[/p][/quote]Nice one nick, those kind of gems are missed when scrolling past the usual nonsense. No opinion from me as I didn't go to the game but doesn't look like I missed much. Usual hysteria on here but I see a a lot of it is Trolls and Clarets stirring it up. greenscreener
  • Score: 0

8:07am Thu 14 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Sometimes you need to take risks to get anywhere. A win and a loss is three points and so it's better than two draws. No shame in losing some as long as you have given it a good go.
Sometimes you need to take risks to get anywhere. A win and a loss is three points and so it's better than two draws. No shame in losing some as long as you have given it a good go. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

8:11am Thu 14 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Sometimes you need to take risks to get anywhere. A win and a loss is three points and so it's better than two draws. No shame in losing some as long as you have given it a good go.
That was supposed to be attached to ...bburnrover above.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Sometimes you need to take risks to get anywhere. A win and a loss is three points and so it's better than two draws. No shame in losing some as long as you have given it a good go.[/p][/quote]That was supposed to be attached to ...bburnrover above. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

8:58am Thu 14 Aug 14

owd nick says...

greenscreener wrote:
owd nick wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
TurfMoorTom wrote:
Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.
More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th.

The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season.

Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team!

Disgraceful.

Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.
The moron troll has finally flipped, it forgot to change identities when it was talking to itself.

YCMIU.
Nice one nick, those kind of gems are missed when scrolling past the usual nonsense.

No opinion from me as I didn't go to the game but doesn't look like I missed much. Usual hysteria on here but I see a a lot of it is Trolls and Clarets stirring it up.
Two days later and I still can't erase it from my memory! :-)
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote: Hard to take and it's no excuse but at the end of the day everything this season needs to focus on promotion alone. No distraction from this cup or potential injuries from the extra games. In that respect Bowyer was right to mix up the squad, not necessarily to go out so early, but to simply give others some game time and find out how much depth he has. Depending on how they react, this might be the kick up the backside needed and nothing lost against the main objective other than a little bit of pride.[/p][/quote]More than pride was lost you moron. We lost our dignity and any remaining shred of credibility that Bowyer might have scraped together since the humiliation of March the 9th. The match showed just how completely pathetic we are when first team players are out. We simply have no backup players capable of stepping in when the likes of Rhodes or Cairney are out through injury which will surely happen during the season. Bowyer has sold us down the river. All the decent Championship level backup we had is gone. We had our backsides exposed and a League One team has taken advantage of us. A League One team! Disgraceful. Talk of promotion is ridiculous, and just one more reason why the dingles are running rings around us on these message boards, we are making ourselves look like fools and they are laughing at us, and you in particular. Stop making us look desperate by claiming promotion is without our capability, it isn't. We are more likely to go down than up.[/p][/quote]The moron troll has finally flipped, it forgot to change identities when it was talking to itself. YCMIU.[/p][/quote]Nice one nick, those kind of gems are missed when scrolling past the usual nonsense. No opinion from me as I didn't go to the game but doesn't look like I missed much. Usual hysteria on here but I see a a lot of it is Trolls and Clarets stirring it up.[/p][/quote]Two days later and I still can't erase it from my memory! :-) owd nick
  • Score: 0

9:02am Thu 14 Aug 14

owd nick says...

On a more positive note reports on twitter, very late last night that Micheal Kean has turned down a loan move to Cardiff because he would prefer to come back to Ewood.
On a more positive note reports on twitter, very late last night that Micheal Kean has turned down a loan move to Cardiff because he would prefer to come back to Ewood. owd nick
  • Score: 1

12:30pm Sun 17 Aug 14

painterman1060 says...

cowabunga wrote:
What a shambles of a club you are .Yet again one of your players is nicked by the police. if it aint drink driving ie Keano ,assault IE Goodwillie,Kiddie fiddling ie roar the lion its knocking someones teeth out in a nightclub. Clueless Classless and Shameless joke of a club.Agent Bowyer keep up the good work.
You always get one idiot with a big mouth .probably not educated
[quote][p][bold]cowabunga[/bold] wrote: What a shambles of a club you are .Yet again one of your players is nicked by the police. if it aint drink driving ie Keano ,assault IE Goodwillie,Kiddie fiddling ie roar the lion its knocking someones teeth out in a nightclub. Clueless Classless and Shameless joke of a club.Agent Bowyer keep up the good work.[/p][/quote]You always get one idiot with a big mouth .probably not educated painterman1060
  • Score: 0

12:33pm Sun 17 Aug 14

painterman1060 says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Stirling effort agent Bowyer!

WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE

GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE
Burnley got promoted was deserved . But fans paying the price now nowloyalty from the club doubling the price of tickets
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: Stirling effort agent Bowyer! WALKER'S MONEY'S GONE GET STUFFED BY TEAMS FROM LEAGUE ONE[/p][/quote]Burnley got promoted was deserved . But fans paying the price now nowloyalty from the club doubling the price of tickets painterman1060
  • Score: 0

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