Paul Wheelock column: Promotion can be achieved but Blackburn Rovers' squad needs strengthening

Gary Bowyer has been restricted in the transfer market

Gary Bowyer has been restricted in the transfer market

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LET’S cut to the chase, the refreshing air of optimism swirling around Ewood Park is not misplaced – Rovers can win promotion this season.

Any side that boasts the talents of Grant Hanley, Craig Conway, Tom Cairney, Jordan Rhodes and Rudy Gestede – players that would walk into most Championship sides – has to be in with a chance.

But Gary Bowyer, who has done so much to restore a genuine sense of hope in Rovers fans’ heart, is right to strike a cautionary note about the competition his team will face in 2014-15.

A lot of focus has be on the sides who have come down from the Premier League, and the money they have spent, and the sides who have come up, whose dealings in the market suggest they are certainly not here to make up the numbers.

But of more interest have been the activities of the likes of Bournemouth, Nottingham Forest, Watford and Middlesbrough, teams who finished just below Rovers in the standings last time out.

They have been busy strengthening both their starting line-ups and their squads.

Rovers, in contrast, have been relatively quiet.

That is partly due to the fact that only minor surgery has been required.

But it is mainly because of the drastic need to reduce the club’s wage bill if it is to meet Financial Fair Play in the seasons to come.

As a result, Bowyer has been restricted to just three signings – two of them beings frees, the other a loan.

If we are being brutally honest that is two signings too few.

Another defender is certainly required and it is becoming increasingly apparent that Bowyer would like another goalkeeper to push and compete with Paul Robinson.

Whether he gets either will depend on the purse strings – which, after years of disastrous and damaging overspending, have been rightly tightened – can be loosened.

If they are, and Bowyer gets the men he wants, then Rovers’ chance of winning a place back in the Premier League will be enhanced.

But if he has to go with what he’s got, that is not to say a top-six place is unattainable. 

When everyone is fit and firing, like they were at the back end of last season, I would not swap Rovers’ first-choice starting line-up for Bournemouth’s, Forest’s, Watford’s and Middlesbrough’s or many other sides for that matter.

But crucially they cannot afford too many injuries, especially in the defence.

Get that fortune that was so badly missing last season and we could be celebrating a top-flight return come May.

But for me, as things currently stand, that will have to come through the lottery of the play-offs and a Wembley success.

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3:30pm Thu 7 Aug 14

J.C - Rishton says...

Good piece well written.

Totally agree, on our day our 1st team can beat anyone in this division. home or away but our squad is pretty thin.

Varney, Williamson, Hanley, Keane, Olson, Taylor etc just are not good enough to be in a side in the top six of the division.

We must stay injury free to have any chance of a top six finish, the division will really be more competative than ever with at least half the division with a chance of a top six finish.

Also, we conceded far too many goals last season, to improve we must conceed at least 20 goals less this time.

A tough task but not impossible and with FFP looming over us, its gotta be now or never (or at least not for the next few seasons as we would have to dismantle the best elements of this squad inorder to get out of a transfer embargo).

A good start is vital, so come out all guns blazing on Friday night - Come on you blues!!
Good piece well written. Totally agree, on our day our 1st team can beat anyone in this division. home or away but our squad is pretty thin. Varney, Williamson, Hanley, Keane, Olson, Taylor etc just are not good enough to be in a side in the top six of the division. We must stay injury free to have any chance of a top six finish, the division will really be more competative than ever with at least half the division with a chance of a top six finish. Also, we conceded far too many goals last season, to improve we must conceed at least 20 goals less this time. A tough task but not impossible and with FFP looming over us, its gotta be now or never (or at least not for the next few seasons as we would have to dismantle the best elements of this squad inorder to get out of a transfer embargo). A good start is vital, so come out all guns blazing on Friday night - Come on you blues!! J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 25

3:32pm Thu 7 Aug 14

FCBurnley says...

Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.
Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season. FCBurnley
  • Score: -35

3:36pm Thu 7 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves here Paul. We finished 8th last season and even those dirty dingles turned us over at home. Since then Bowyer has once succeeded in weakening our squad and leaving pretty much down to the bare bones. What if we lose Rhodes to long term injury, what if we lose Cairney? What are our back up players likely to achieve?

Its all well and good dreaming of better things but perhaps a dose of realism is needed here. The state we find ourselves in means we have to learn to crawl before we can walk, we have a long way to go and I just cant see Bowyer holding things together after a few defeats on the bounce. The more I think about it the more I worry that we could be in for a turbulent season with a transfer embargo coming in January.

To build us up so much is simply asking for trouble.
I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves here Paul. We finished 8th last season and even those dirty dingles turned us over at home. Since then Bowyer has once succeeded in weakening our squad and leaving pretty much down to the bare bones. What if we lose Rhodes to long term injury, what if we lose Cairney? What are our back up players likely to achieve? Its all well and good dreaming of better things but perhaps a dose of realism is needed here. The state we find ourselves in means we have to learn to crawl before we can walk, we have a long way to go and I just cant see Bowyer holding things together after a few defeats on the bounce. The more I think about it the more I worry that we could be in for a turbulent season with a transfer embargo coming in January. To build us up so much is simply asking for trouble. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -23

3:51pm Thu 7 Aug 14

noddy57 says...

There is room for optimism at Ewood this season but that does not mean we are complacent . This squad has a good a chance as any other in this division and we can certainly gain promotion but that could only be attained by having good cover for all key positions not just here and there. Burnley as much as it pains me to say it were so lucky with injuries having a small squad that what they achieved was nothing short of outstanding. C O Y B.
There is room for optimism at Ewood this season but that does not mean we are complacent . This squad has a good a chance as any other in this division and we can certainly gain promotion but that could only be attained by having good cover for all key positions not just here and there. Burnley as much as it pains me to say it were so lucky with injuries having a small squad that what they achieved was nothing short of outstanding. C O Y B. noddy57
  • Score: 15

3:58pm Thu 7 Aug 14

garyintandem says...

To me it's all a question of confidence, attitude, team spirit and momentum. If you look at the two sides that went up last year I can only name about 4 of the players in their teams...and one of those is only because of publicity about him not signing a new contract. But they had a team spirit, we're in the top 6 all season...and were lucky with injuries.

Who would you rather have...Murphy, Ekuku and Best who cost over £5m and an overhead of about £5m a year or Cairney, Conway and Gestede who cost less than £1m and an overhead of less than £2m a year.

I think we'd all prefer the latter trio...why? Not because they are blessed with more skill or experience than the others...but because their attitude is 100% for the team. That's what any team needs more than anything in this league...Belief, Attitude, Team Bonding.

If we sign Michael Keane I believe we can finish in the top 2 because of our 12th man which is team bonding. Bowyer needs to go into every match believing we can win and make the players fight for every ball and create as many chances as possible. Rudy and Jordan will finish them off.
I hope they're all fit because we need energy and tempo from 7.45pm tomorrow through to the last match in May.

Come on Rovers...players, management, Venkys and the fans...let's believe we can do this. Work together, give full support to the 11 on the pitch and enjoy a great season.

COYB
To me it's all a question of confidence, attitude, team spirit and momentum. If you look at the two sides that went up last year I can only name about 4 of the players in their teams...and one of those is only because of publicity about him not signing a new contract. But they had a team spirit, we're in the top 6 all season...and were lucky with injuries. Who would you rather have...Murphy, Ekuku and Best who cost over £5m and an overhead of about £5m a year or Cairney, Conway and Gestede who cost less than £1m and an overhead of less than £2m a year. I think we'd all prefer the latter trio...why? Not because they are blessed with more skill or experience than the others...but because their attitude is 100% for the team. That's what any team needs more than anything in this league...Belief, Attitude, Team Bonding. If we sign Michael Keane I believe we can finish in the top 2 because of our 12th man which is team bonding. Bowyer needs to go into every match believing we can win and make the players fight for every ball and create as many chances as possible. Rudy and Jordan will finish them off. I hope they're all fit because we need energy and tempo from 7.45pm tomorrow through to the last match in May. Come on Rovers...players, management, Venkys and the fans...let's believe we can do this. Work together, give full support to the 11 on the pitch and enjoy a great season. COYB garyintandem
  • Score: 32

4:05pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Tatts says...

Add a centre half and I think our squad is big enough, especially as we can juggle things round a bit.

In goal we have Robbo with Kean and Eastwood as possibles

At right back, we've got Baptiste with Lowe and Henley as possibles
At left back, we've got Spurr with Olsson and Baptiste as possibles
At centre half, we've got Hanley and Killgallon with Baptiste as a possible

At right mid, we've got Conway with Cairney, King and Taylor as possibles
At left mid we've got Marshall with Conway, Varney and Olsson as possibles
At centre mid, we've got Cairney and Evans with Lowe, Williamson, Taylor and Dunny as possibles

Up front, we've got Rhodes and Gestede with Brown, Dunny, King and Varney as possibles
Add a centre half and I think our squad is big enough, especially as we can juggle things round a bit. In goal we have Robbo with Kean and Eastwood as possibles At right back, we've got Baptiste with Lowe and Henley as possibles At left back, we've got Spurr with Olsson and Baptiste as possibles At centre half, we've got Hanley and Killgallon with Baptiste as a possible At right mid, we've got Conway with Cairney, King and Taylor as possibles At left mid we've got Marshall with Conway, Varney and Olsson as possibles At centre mid, we've got Cairney and Evans with Lowe, Williamson, Taylor and Dunny as possibles Up front, we've got Rhodes and Gestede with Brown, Dunny, King and Varney as possibles Tatts
  • Score: 22

4:18pm Thu 7 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -23

4:19pm Thu 7 Aug 14

earwego says...

Tatts wrote:
Add a centre half and I think our squad is big enough, especially as we can juggle things round a bit.

In goal we have Robbo with Kean and Eastwood as possibles

At right back, we've got Baptiste with Lowe and Henley as possibles
At left back, we've got Spurr with Olsson and Baptiste as possibles
At centre half, we've got Hanley and Killgallon with Baptiste as a possible

At right mid, we've got Conway with Cairney, King and Taylor as possibles
At left mid we've got Marshall with Conway, Varney and Olsson as possibles
At centre mid, we've got Cairney and Evans with Lowe, Williamson, Taylor and Dunny as possibles

Up front, we've got Rhodes and Gestede with Brown, Dunny, King and Varney as possibles
And off the pitch lets give them the 12 man,the crowd.Get behind them this season,forget the past years,its about here and now. Lets get behind them.
[quote][p][bold]Tatts[/bold] wrote: Add a centre half and I think our squad is big enough, especially as we can juggle things round a bit. In goal we have Robbo with Kean and Eastwood as possibles At right back, we've got Baptiste with Lowe and Henley as possibles At left back, we've got Spurr with Olsson and Baptiste as possibles At centre half, we've got Hanley and Killgallon with Baptiste as a possible At right mid, we've got Conway with Cairney, King and Taylor as possibles At left mid we've got Marshall with Conway, Varney and Olsson as possibles At centre mid, we've got Cairney and Evans with Lowe, Williamson, Taylor and Dunny as possibles Up front, we've got Rhodes and Gestede with Brown, Dunny, King and Varney as possibles[/p][/quote]And off the pitch lets give them the 12 man,the crowd.Get behind them this season,forget the past years,its about here and now. Lets get behind them. earwego
  • Score: 4

4:21pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Rovers 1495 says...

Farnolle and Spence ... sorted
Farnolle and Spence ... sorted Rovers 1495
  • Score: 7

4:24pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Rovers 1495 says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.
Indeed, let's have a jolly good look at the Premier League table on New Years Day. Laughing my f*cking socks off.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.[/p][/quote]Indeed, let's have a jolly good look at the Premier League table on New Years Day. Laughing my f*cking socks off. Rovers 1495
  • Score: 19

4:26pm Thu 7 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
Farnolle and Spence ... sorted
The final pieces in the promotion jigsaw?

Premier League here we come?

Or replacements for Robbo and Hanley when FFP forces us to restructure in January perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: Farnolle and Spence ... sorted[/p][/quote]The final pieces in the promotion jigsaw? Premier League here we come? Or replacements for Robbo and Hanley when FFP forces us to restructure in January perhaps? TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -22

4:49pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Bellypork says...

We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!!
We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!! Bellypork
  • Score: 9

5:00pm Thu 7 Aug 14

WheresYourFamousSuicide? says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
You forgetting Cairney, Conway, Marshall to name a few.
Turf Moor Tit, claiming to be a Rover with a name like that?
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.[/p][/quote]You forgetting Cairney, Conway, Marshall to name a few. Turf Moor Tit, claiming to be a Rover with a name like that? WheresYourFamousSuicide?
  • Score: 22

5:19pm Thu 7 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

Bellypork wrote:
We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!!
We start the season in much better shape than we did last year.

One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages.

If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.
[quote][p][bold]Bellypork[/bold] wrote: We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!![/p][/quote]We start the season in much better shape than we did last year. One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages. If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again. greenscreener
  • Score: 13

5:58pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Captain Dreckley says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
As Rovers are a glowing example, wealth means sweet f.a. it's how you spend and spend wisely. As our chums down the road are keen to remind us, not many clubs have wasted as much money as us on supposed big name match winners. One thing about the championship is you cannot afford luxury players who drift in and out, promotion will be gained by total team performances game in, game out (just like we did holler the dingles). One player does not make a team and Rhodes had quite a barren spell in January and February last season. Rhodes is important but one player doesn't make a team in the championship. Come on you Blues
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.[/p][/quote]As Rovers are a glowing example, wealth means sweet f.a. it's how you spend and spend wisely. As our chums down the road are keen to remind us, not many clubs have wasted as much money as us on supposed big name match winners. One thing about the championship is you cannot afford luxury players who drift in and out, promotion will be gained by total team performances game in, game out (just like we did holler the dingles). One player does not make a team and Rhodes had quite a barren spell in January and February last season. Rhodes is important but one player doesn't make a team in the championship. Come on you Blues Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 5

5:59pm Thu 7 Aug 14

George Oghani's Ironing Board says...

Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID
Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID George Oghani's Ironing Board
  • Score: 1

6:02pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Pembina says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bellypork wrote:
We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!!
We start the season in much better shape than we did last year.

One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages.

If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.
Don't worry, my crystal ball says Rovers will beat Cardiff
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bellypork[/bold] wrote: We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!![/p][/quote]We start the season in much better shape than we did last year. One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages. If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.[/p][/quote]Don't worry, my crystal ball says Rovers will beat Cardiff Pembina
  • Score: 9

6:11pm Thu 7 Aug 14

French Rover says...

2-1 to the Rovers and a cracking game in prospect.

Really excited that I will now be able to get to some games again this year in what will surely be our promotion season. But not this game I am afraid. Blackpool away next week is going to be my first of the season...happy times ahead!!
2-1 to the Rovers and a cracking game in prospect. Really excited that I will now be able to get to some games again this year in what will surely be our promotion season. But not this game I am afraid. Blackpool away next week is going to be my first of the season...happy times ahead!! French Rover
  • Score: 7

6:13pm Thu 7 Aug 14

The Seagull has landed says...

George Oghani's Ironing Board wrote:
Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID
1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.
[quote][p][bold]George Oghani's Ironing Board[/bold] wrote: Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID[/p][/quote]1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: -8

6:15pm Thu 7 Aug 14

DoggydogNo1 says...

funniest joke i have ever read this.Well done
funniest joke i have ever read this.Well done DoggydogNo1
  • Score: -5

6:50pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Maxrus says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bellypork wrote:
We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!!
We start the season in much better shape than we did last year.

One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages.

If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.
Well, put like that - I'll take a draw then :)
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bellypork[/bold] wrote: We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!![/p][/quote]We start the season in much better shape than we did last year. One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages. If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.[/p][/quote]Well, put like that - I'll take a draw then :) Maxrus
  • Score: 0

6:51pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Maxrus says...

DoggydogNo1 wrote:
funniest joke i have ever read this.Well done
Take it you don't read much then.
[quote][p][bold]DoggydogNo1[/bold] wrote: funniest joke i have ever read this.Well done[/p][/quote]Take it you don't read much then. Maxrus
  • Score: 7

7:04pm Thu 7 Aug 14

aviitt says...

I think it will take more than a bit of strengthening for us to be serious promotion contenders. I think it will require tactical maturity, also by Mr.Bowyer. We need to learn to be able to edge and see out tight games, to be able to fully capitalise on extended periods of dominance and most of all play poorly and win. I appreciate we have a very young squad and youngsters do struggle with these things. But they're a year older now, let's see what they can do.
I think it will take more than a bit of strengthening for us to be serious promotion contenders. I think it will require tactical maturity, also by Mr.Bowyer. We need to learn to be able to edge and see out tight games, to be able to fully capitalise on extended periods of dominance and most of all play poorly and win. I appreciate we have a very young squad and youngsters do struggle with these things. But they're a year older now, let's see what they can do. aviitt
  • Score: 14

7:11pm Thu 7 Aug 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Gary Bowyer won't get this team promoted just like Don Mackay couldn't get his team promoted. Whereas Lee, Kendall, Dalglish and Souness all could. He has neither the record of success nor the gravitas to inspire his players.
Gary Bowyer won't get this team promoted just like Don Mackay couldn't get his team promoted. Whereas Lee, Kendall, Dalglish and Souness all could. He has neither the record of success nor the gravitas to inspire his players. OnePostThenTheOther
  • Score: -1

7:57pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Gary Bowyer won't get this team promoted just like Don Mackay couldn't get his team promoted. Whereas Lee, Kendall, Dalglish and Souness all could. He has neither the record of success nor the gravitas to inspire his players.
"Record of success" - he's only been a manager 12 months, give him a fair crack off the whip. Inspiration, we'll have to wait and see but again it's too early to judge him after only one season.
I was very pleased with the final 12 games of last season so lets see if we can continue with that form and we'll all be happy.
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: Gary Bowyer won't get this team promoted just like Don Mackay couldn't get his team promoted. Whereas Lee, Kendall, Dalglish and Souness all could. He has neither the record of success nor the gravitas to inspire his players.[/p][/quote]"Record of success" - he's only been a manager 12 months, give him a fair crack off the whip. Inspiration, we'll have to wait and see but again it's too early to judge him after only one season. I was very pleased with the final 12 games of last season so lets see if we can continue with that form and we'll all be happy. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 15

8:09pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Pembina says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
Does your mother know you wrote this gabage
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.[/p][/quote]Does your mother know you wrote this gabage Pembina
  • Score: 9

8:53pm Thu 7 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

Pembina wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
Does your mother know you wrote this gabage
No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time.

Wind your neck in fool.
[quote][p][bold]Pembina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.[/p][/quote]Does your mother know you wrote this gabage[/p][/quote]No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time. Wind your neck in fool. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -24

9:22pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Shane says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.
Indeed, let's have a jolly good look at the Premier League table on New Years Day. Laughing my f*cking socks off.
Yes no doubt Burnley will be there in a relegation battle. no delusions there mate. What's your excuse?
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.[/p][/quote]Indeed, let's have a jolly good look at the Premier League table on New Years Day. Laughing my f*cking socks off.[/p][/quote]Yes no doubt Burnley will be there in a relegation battle. no delusions there mate. What's your excuse? Shane
  • Score: 3

9:34pm Thu 7 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.
We've beat you enough times to make a box set pal. You could barely make an advert on your achievements.

Are you immune from drawing us in the cup now you're about to dominate world football forever?
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.[/p][/quote]We've beat you enough times to make a box set pal. You could barely make an advert on your achievements. Are you immune from drawing us in the cup now you're about to dominate world football forever? more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 19

9:36pm Thu 7 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Pembina wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
Does your mother know you wrote this gabage
No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time.

Wind your neck in fool.
No doubt she was doing a big sh*t on your face puff pants
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pembina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.[/p][/quote]Does your mother know you wrote this gabage[/p][/quote]No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time. Wind your neck in fool.[/p][/quote]No doubt she was doing a big sh*t on your face puff pants more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 19

9:47pm Thu 7 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
George Oghani's Ironing Board wrote:
Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID
1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.
The way you lot are getting wide ons at FFP you'd think there's a section in there that states Blackburn Rovers will be stripped of their entire history and forced to play in the Blackburn Sunday League whilst Bonleh will win the Champions League by default for the next ten years.....

Trust me pal, FFP will have an impact but nowhere near like you gurning machines hope and pray for.
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Oghani's Ironing Board[/bold] wrote: Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID[/p][/quote]1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.[/p][/quote]The way you lot are getting wide ons at FFP you'd think there's a section in there that states Blackburn Rovers will be stripped of their entire history and forced to play in the Blackburn Sunday League whilst Bonleh will win the Champions League by default for the next ten years..... Trust me pal, FFP will have an impact but nowhere near like you gurning machines hope and pray for. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 19

10:04pm Thu 7 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
George Oghani's Ironing Board wrote:
Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID
1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.
The way you lot are getting wide ons at FFP you'd think there's a section in there that states Blackburn Rovers will be stripped of their entire history and forced to play in the Blackburn Sunday League whilst Bonleh will win the Champions League by default for the next ten years.....

Trust me pal, FFP will have an impact but nowhere near like you gurning machines hope and pray for.
I'd like to believe that I surely would but unfortunately its going to impact us more than you think.

Think about it, we we've got debts of over £60m of which the interest payments run into several millions, we've lost all of the depth that our squad once had and in doing so we've paid out million in contract cancellations, we've brought in poor quality players to replace the outgoing players we've paid to leave, we thrown the chequebook at Jordan Rhodes agent and basically bent over and been royally shafted, we've lost a further £8m from the reduction in our parachute payments, and we are still carrying a wage bill of somewhere in the region of £25m.

How exactly are we countering these massive costs? Are you not aware that last season we received a £16m parachute payment and had no contract pay-off's and we STILL lost over £36m?

This time around we might have reduced the wage bill but the other losses significantly outweigh this, meaning we are likely to be in a far worse position AND restricted from strengthening out squad due to a transfer embargo until we get our house in order.

The dingles might be praying for FFP to destroy us but sadly we are destroying ourselves. The transfer ban in January is going to force an almighty change to what we are expecting from this season and I for one don't hold too much hope for a successful season as a result.

Oh for the days of Jack Walker eh. We hadn't a care in the world had we.
[quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Oghani's Ironing Board[/bold] wrote: Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID[/p][/quote]1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.[/p][/quote]The way you lot are getting wide ons at FFP you'd think there's a section in there that states Blackburn Rovers will be stripped of their entire history and forced to play in the Blackburn Sunday League whilst Bonleh will win the Champions League by default for the next ten years..... Trust me pal, FFP will have an impact but nowhere near like you gurning machines hope and pray for.[/p][/quote]I'd like to believe that I surely would but unfortunately its going to impact us more than you think. Think about it, we we've got debts of over £60m of which the interest payments run into several millions, we've lost all of the depth that our squad once had and in doing so we've paid out million in contract cancellations, we've brought in poor quality players to replace the outgoing players we've paid to leave, we thrown the chequebook at Jordan Rhodes agent and basically bent over and been royally shafted, we've lost a further £8m from the reduction in our parachute payments, and we are still carrying a wage bill of somewhere in the region of £25m. How exactly are we countering these massive costs? Are you not aware that last season we received a £16m parachute payment and had no contract pay-off's and we STILL lost over £36m? This time around we might have reduced the wage bill but the other losses significantly outweigh this, meaning we are likely to be in a far worse position AND restricted from strengthening out squad due to a transfer embargo until we get our house in order. The dingles might be praying for FFP to destroy us but sadly we are destroying ourselves. The transfer ban in January is going to force an almighty change to what we are expecting from this season and I for one don't hold too much hope for a successful season as a result. Oh for the days of Jack Walker eh. We hadn't a care in the world had we. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -16

10:24pm Thu 7 Aug 14

accylongside says...

This time tomorrow Cardiff will be top of the Championship. And guess who will be bottom.
This time tomorrow Cardiff will be top of the Championship. And guess who will be bottom. accylongside
  • Score: -9

10:27pm Thu 7 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
George Oghani's Ironing Board wrote:
Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID
1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.
The way you lot are getting wide ons at FFP you'd think there's a section in there that states Blackburn Rovers will be stripped of their entire history and forced to play in the Blackburn Sunday League whilst Bonleh will win the Champions League by default for the next ten years.....

Trust me pal, FFP will have an impact but nowhere near like you gurning machines hope and pray for.
I'd like to believe that I surely would but unfortunately its going to impact us more than you think.

Think about it, we we've got debts of over £60m of which the interest payments run into several millions, we've lost all of the depth that our squad once had and in doing so we've paid out million in contract cancellations, we've brought in poor quality players to replace the outgoing players we've paid to leave, we thrown the chequebook at Jordan Rhodes agent and basically bent over and been royally shafted, we've lost a further £8m from the reduction in our parachute payments, and we are still carrying a wage bill of somewhere in the region of £25m.

How exactly are we countering these massive costs? Are you not aware that last season we received a £16m parachute payment and had no contract pay-off's and we STILL lost over £36m?

This time around we might have reduced the wage bill but the other losses significantly outweigh this, meaning we are likely to be in a far worse position AND restricted from strengthening out squad due to a transfer embargo until we get our house in order.

The dingles might be praying for FFP to destroy us but sadly we are destroying ourselves. The transfer ban in January is going to force an almighty change to what we are expecting from this season and I for one don't hold too much hope for a successful season as a result.

Oh for the days of Jack Walker eh. We hadn't a care in the world had we.
I've thought about it and decided I'm right.

Thanks for the multi paragraph response though, I'm flattered.
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Oghani's Ironing Board[/bold] wrote: Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID[/p][/quote]1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.[/p][/quote]The way you lot are getting wide ons at FFP you'd think there's a section in there that states Blackburn Rovers will be stripped of their entire history and forced to play in the Blackburn Sunday League whilst Bonleh will win the Champions League by default for the next ten years..... Trust me pal, FFP will have an impact but nowhere near like you gurning machines hope and pray for.[/p][/quote]I'd like to believe that I surely would but unfortunately its going to impact us more than you think. Think about it, we we've got debts of over £60m of which the interest payments run into several millions, we've lost all of the depth that our squad once had and in doing so we've paid out million in contract cancellations, we've brought in poor quality players to replace the outgoing players we've paid to leave, we thrown the chequebook at Jordan Rhodes agent and basically bent over and been royally shafted, we've lost a further £8m from the reduction in our parachute payments, and we are still carrying a wage bill of somewhere in the region of £25m. How exactly are we countering these massive costs? Are you not aware that last season we received a £16m parachute payment and had no contract pay-off's and we STILL lost over £36m? This time around we might have reduced the wage bill but the other losses significantly outweigh this, meaning we are likely to be in a far worse position AND restricted from strengthening out squad due to a transfer embargo until we get our house in order. The dingles might be praying for FFP to destroy us but sadly we are destroying ourselves. The transfer ban in January is going to force an almighty change to what we are expecting from this season and I for one don't hold too much hope for a successful season as a result. Oh for the days of Jack Walker eh. We hadn't a care in the world had we.[/p][/quote]I've thought about it and decided I'm right. Thanks for the multi paragraph response though, I'm flattered. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 8

10:29pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Pembina says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Pembina wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
Does your mother know you wrote this gabage
No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time.

Wind your neck in fool.
Your no Rovers fan
PS: Don't forget to take a box of Kleenex with you to the game against Chelsea
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pembina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.[/p][/quote]Does your mother know you wrote this gabage[/p][/quote]No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time. Wind your neck in fool.[/p][/quote]Your no Rovers fan PS: Don't forget to take a box of Kleenex with you to the game against Chelsea Pembina
  • Score: 5

10:35pm Thu 7 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

accylongside wrote:
This time tomorrow Cardiff will be top of the Championship. And guess who will be bottom.
Clearly your degree in Astro Physics is being put to good use. Will you be watching the game as part of your continued infatuation of Rovers?
[quote][p][bold]accylongside[/bold] wrote: This time tomorrow Cardiff will be top of the Championship. And guess who will be bottom.[/p][/quote]Clearly your degree in Astro Physics is being put to good use. Will you be watching the game as part of your continued infatuation of Rovers? more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 7

10:40pm Thu 7 Aug 14

goldfinger59 says...

Definitely play offs is the challenge this season, anything better is a bonus, but look at The Dingles last season, who would have predicted promotion?
Definitely play offs is the challenge this season, anything better is a bonus, but look at The Dingles last season, who would have predicted promotion? goldfinger59
  • Score: 4

10:42pm Thu 7 Aug 14

owd nick says...

Bellypork wrote:
We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!!
I can't see Rovers signing anyone else to be honest, you have to remember that apart from Killgallon the immaturity and lack of cover in the defense last season was at times brutally exposed.

GB knew that from the off, that's probably why he was so negative early on, leaving Rhodes up front on his own. The early part of last season was extremely hit and miss, with more emphasis on the miss.

However, all these players will be fitter, more experienced and an added bonus they have better midfielders in front of them from the start, and we are starting the season with a committed team.

We also have a superb young left sided centre half just waiting for his chance, Jack O'Connell, he is the type of player we need to be bringing through, not worrying about signing others and blocking him out.

You are right with one thing though, by 10pm tomorrow we will have a good idea where we stand. Cardiff would not have been my choice for the first game of the season, but we have to play them sometime so why not.

COYB's
[quote][p][bold]Bellypork[/bold] wrote: We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!![/p][/quote]I can't see Rovers signing anyone else to be honest, you have to remember that apart from Killgallon the immaturity and lack of cover in the defense last season was at times brutally exposed. GB knew that from the off, that's probably why he was so negative early on, leaving Rhodes up front on his own. The early part of last season was extremely hit and miss, with more emphasis on the miss. However, all these players will be fitter, more experienced and an added bonus they have better midfielders in front of them from the start, and we are starting the season with a committed team. We also have a superb young left sided centre half just waiting for his chance, Jack O'Connell, he is the type of player we need to be bringing through, not worrying about signing others and blocking him out. You are right with one thing though, by 10pm tomorrow we will have a good idea where we stand. Cardiff would not have been my choice for the first game of the season, but we have to play them sometime so why not. COYB's owd nick
  • Score: 4

10:47pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Maxrus says...

goldfinger59 wrote:
Definitely play offs is the challenge this season, anything better is a bonus, but look at The Dingles last season, who would have predicted promotion?
Pretty much all of our trolls ?
[quote][p][bold]goldfinger59[/bold] wrote: Definitely play offs is the challenge this season, anything better is a bonus, but look at The Dingles last season, who would have predicted promotion?[/p][/quote]Pretty much all of our trolls ? Maxrus
  • Score: 1

10:48pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Old Alzheimer says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.
Make hay whilst the sun shines FC Burnley.

You've waited long enough to have a dig.
Odds on to be in the Championship next season.
We may pass you on your way back down.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.[/p][/quote]Make hay whilst the sun shines FC Burnley. You've waited long enough to have a dig. Odds on to be in the Championship next season. We may pass you on your way back down. Old Alzheimer
  • Score: -6

10:58pm Thu 7 Aug 14

owd nick says...

French Rover wrote:
2-1 to the Rovers and a cracking game in prospect.

Really excited that I will now be able to get to some games again this year in what will surely be our promotion season. But not this game I am afraid. Blackpool away next week is going to be my first of the season...happy times ahead!!
Because of work and family commitments Blackpool away will be my first away game for around 20 years, I suppose I sort of got out of the habit after following them all over the place since the early 70's.

Don't know if it will be the shape of things to come, especially if we loose, but it might be if my daughter gets her way, she has nagged me to take her to an away game for the last couple of seasons and for some reason wants to go to Fulham and as it's one of the few grounds I have never visited that might happen as well.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: 2-1 to the Rovers and a cracking game in prospect. Really excited that I will now be able to get to some games again this year in what will surely be our promotion season. But not this game I am afraid. Blackpool away next week is going to be my first of the season...happy times ahead!![/p][/quote]Because of work and family commitments Blackpool away will be my first away game for around 20 years, I suppose I sort of got out of the habit after following them all over the place since the early 70's. Don't know if it will be the shape of things to come, especially if we loose, but it might be if my daughter gets her way, she has nagged me to take her to an away game for the last couple of seasons and for some reason wants to go to Fulham and as it's one of the few grounds I have never visited that might happen as well. owd nick
  • Score: -4

11:01pm Thu 7 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

Pains me to say it but its time to face facts my fellow Rovers, we are up sh*t creek without a paddle. Our signings this summer have reeked of desperation, we've got no money to spend and all the signs are pointing to Rhodes being sold to pay off some of the horrifying debts in January.

If only we'd beat the dingles then we wouldn't be in such a mess.

WHY COULDN'T WE BEAT THEM WHEN IT MATTERED!!! WHY????
Pains me to say it but its time to face facts my fellow Rovers, we are up sh*t creek without a paddle. Our signings this summer have reeked of desperation, we've got no money to spend and all the signs are pointing to Rhodes being sold to pay off some of the horrifying debts in January. If only we'd beat the dingles then we wouldn't be in such a mess. WHY COULDN'T WE BEAT THEM WHEN IT MATTERED!!! WHY???? TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -4

11:33pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Maxrus says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Pains me to say it but its time to face facts my fellow Rovers, we are up sh*t creek without a paddle. Our signings this summer have reeked of desperation, we've got no money to spend and all the signs are pointing to Rhodes being sold to pay off some of the horrifying debts in January.

If only we'd beat the dingles then we wouldn't be in such a mess.

WHY COULDN'T WE BEAT THEM WHEN IT MATTERED!!! WHY????
Go straight to your jacket.

NOW!!
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: Pains me to say it but its time to face facts my fellow Rovers, we are up sh*t creek without a paddle. Our signings this summer have reeked of desperation, we've got no money to spend and all the signs are pointing to Rhodes being sold to pay off some of the horrifying debts in January. If only we'd beat the dingles then we wouldn't be in such a mess. WHY COULDN'T WE BEAT THEM WHEN IT MATTERED!!! WHY????[/p][/quote]Go straight to your jacket. NOW!! Maxrus
  • Score: 1

12:11am Fri 8 Aug 14

The Seagull has landed says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
George Oghani's Ironing Board wrote:
Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID
1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.
The way you lot are getting wide ons at FFP you'd think there's a section in there that states Blackburn Rovers will be stripped of their entire history and forced to play in the Blackburn Sunday League whilst Bonleh will win the Champions League by default for the next ten years.....

Trust me pal, FFP will have an impact but nowhere near like you gurning machines hope and pray for.
I'd like to believe that I surely would but unfortunately its going to impact us more than you think.

Think about it, we we've got debts of over £60m of which the interest payments run into several millions, we've lost all of the depth that our squad once had and in doing so we've paid out million in contract cancellations, we've brought in poor quality players to replace the outgoing players we've paid to leave, we thrown the chequebook at Jordan Rhodes agent and basically bent over and been royally shafted, we've lost a further £8m from the reduction in our parachute payments, and we are still carrying a wage bill of somewhere in the region of £25m.

How exactly are we countering these massive costs? Are you not aware that last season we received a £16m parachute payment and had no contract pay-off's and we STILL lost over £36m?

This time around we might have reduced the wage bill but the other losses significantly outweigh this, meaning we are likely to be in a far worse position AND restricted from strengthening out squad due to a transfer embargo until we get our house in order.

The dingles might be praying for FFP to destroy us but sadly we are destroying ourselves. The transfer ban in January is going to force an almighty change to what we are expecting from this season and I for one don't hold too much hope for a successful season as a result.

Oh for the days of Jack Walker eh. We hadn't a care in the world had we.
Ray you need to listen to Tom he talks sense.
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Oghani's Ironing Board[/bold] wrote: Sky+ MOTD,DAOF,can't wait.RTID[/p][/quote]1st January 2015, FFP judgement day, can't wait.[/p][/quote]The way you lot are getting wide ons at FFP you'd think there's a section in there that states Blackburn Rovers will be stripped of their entire history and forced to play in the Blackburn Sunday League whilst Bonleh will win the Champions League by default for the next ten years..... Trust me pal, FFP will have an impact but nowhere near like you gurning machines hope and pray for.[/p][/quote]I'd like to believe that I surely would but unfortunately its going to impact us more than you think. Think about it, we we've got debts of over £60m of which the interest payments run into several millions, we've lost all of the depth that our squad once had and in doing so we've paid out million in contract cancellations, we've brought in poor quality players to replace the outgoing players we've paid to leave, we thrown the chequebook at Jordan Rhodes agent and basically bent over and been royally shafted, we've lost a further £8m from the reduction in our parachute payments, and we are still carrying a wage bill of somewhere in the region of £25m. How exactly are we countering these massive costs? Are you not aware that last season we received a £16m parachute payment and had no contract pay-off's and we STILL lost over £36m? This time around we might have reduced the wage bill but the other losses significantly outweigh this, meaning we are likely to be in a far worse position AND restricted from strengthening out squad due to a transfer embargo until we get our house in order. The dingles might be praying for FFP to destroy us but sadly we are destroying ourselves. The transfer ban in January is going to force an almighty change to what we are expecting from this season and I for one don't hold too much hope for a successful season as a result. Oh for the days of Jack Walker eh. We hadn't a care in the world had we.[/p][/quote]Ray you need to listen to Tom he talks sense. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: -2

7:13am Fri 8 Aug 14

The Seagull has landed says...

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Pembina wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
Does your mother know you wrote this gabage
No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time.

Wind your neck in fool.
No doubt she was doing a big sh*t on your face puff pants
Oh Ray, I thought you were more classy than that.
Coprophilia.....not cool dude.
[quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pembina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.[/p][/quote]Does your mother know you wrote this gabage[/p][/quote]No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time. Wind your neck in fool.[/p][/quote]No doubt she was doing a big sh*t on your face puff pants[/p][/quote]Oh Ray, I thought you were more classy than that. Coprophilia.....not cool dude. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: -3

8:41am Fri 8 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

b...ds new home kit reminds of The Cov - but they are only half as good........
b...ds new home kit reminds of The Cov - but they are only half as good........ Its Only a game boy
  • Score: -5

8:45am Fri 8 Aug 14

Welsh Rover says...

owd nick wrote:
Bellypork wrote:
We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!!
I can't see Rovers signing anyone else to be honest, you have to remember that apart from Killgallon the immaturity and lack of cover in the defense last season was at times brutally exposed.

GB knew that from the off, that's probably why he was so negative early on, leaving Rhodes up front on his own. The early part of last season was extremely hit and miss, with more emphasis on the miss.

However, all these players will be fitter, more experienced and an added bonus they have better midfielders in front of them from the start, and we are starting the season with a committed team.

We also have a superb young left sided centre half just waiting for his chance, Jack O'Connell, he is the type of player we need to be bringing through, not worrying about signing others and blocking him out.

You are right with one thing though, by 10pm tomorrow we will have a good idea where we stand. Cardiff would not have been my choice for the first game of the season, but we have to play them sometime so why not.

COYB's
Jack O'Connell deserves his chance, he's certainly good enough. He just needs to get some experience under his belt and there's only one way to do that.

Really looking forward to the game tonight, I'll be watching it with a Cardiff fan, a Swansea fan and a Citeh fan. Only one of them is rooting for Cardiff, obviously, although I dare say Tenby will be full of Grockles from the Valleys so they'll certainly outnumber us three!

Here's hoping for three points, although I wouldn't be too disappointed with a draw.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bellypork[/bold] wrote: We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!![/p][/quote]I can't see Rovers signing anyone else to be honest, you have to remember that apart from Killgallon the immaturity and lack of cover in the defense last season was at times brutally exposed. GB knew that from the off, that's probably why he was so negative early on, leaving Rhodes up front on his own. The early part of last season was extremely hit and miss, with more emphasis on the miss. However, all these players will be fitter, more experienced and an added bonus they have better midfielders in front of them from the start, and we are starting the season with a committed team. We also have a superb young left sided centre half just waiting for his chance, Jack O'Connell, he is the type of player we need to be bringing through, not worrying about signing others and blocking him out. You are right with one thing though, by 10pm tomorrow we will have a good idea where we stand. Cardiff would not have been my choice for the first game of the season, but we have to play them sometime so why not. COYB's[/p][/quote]Jack O'Connell deserves his chance, he's certainly good enough. He just needs to get some experience under his belt and there's only one way to do that. Really looking forward to the game tonight, I'll be watching it with a Cardiff fan, a Swansea fan and a Citeh fan. Only one of them is rooting for Cardiff, obviously, although I dare say Tenby will be full of Grockles from the Valleys so they'll certainly outnumber us three! Here's hoping for three points, although I wouldn't be too disappointed with a draw. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision! Welsh Rover
  • Score: 5

9:43am Fri 8 Aug 14

dangerous dave says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bellypork wrote:
We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!!
We start the season in much better shape than we did last year.

One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages.

If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.
time for a bib and nappy change Mr Greenslaver!!!
out with the cowboys and indians
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bellypork[/bold] wrote: We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!![/p][/quote]We start the season in much better shape than we did last year. One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages. If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.[/p][/quote]time for a bib and nappy change Mr Greenslaver!!! out with the cowboys and indians dangerous dave
  • Score: -2

9:46am Fri 8 Aug 14

dangerous dave says...

owd nick wrote:
French Rover wrote:
2-1 to the Rovers and a cracking game in prospect.

Really excited that I will now be able to get to some games again this year in what will surely be our promotion season. But not this game I am afraid. Blackpool away next week is going to be my first of the season...happy times ahead!!
Because of work and family commitments Blackpool away will be my first away game for around 20 years, I suppose I sort of got out of the habit after following them all over the place since the early 70's.

Don't know if it will be the shape of things to come, especially if we loose, but it might be if my daughter gets her way, she has nagged me to take her to an away game for the last couple of seasons and for some reason wants to go to Fulham and as it's one of the few grounds I have never visited that might happen as well.
getting a bit repetitive Mr Nick - work and family commitments don't seem to get in the way of your golf!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: 2-1 to the Rovers and a cracking game in prospect. Really excited that I will now be able to get to some games again this year in what will surely be our promotion season. But not this game I am afraid. Blackpool away next week is going to be my first of the season...happy times ahead!![/p][/quote]Because of work and family commitments Blackpool away will be my first away game for around 20 years, I suppose I sort of got out of the habit after following them all over the place since the early 70's. Don't know if it will be the shape of things to come, especially if we loose, but it might be if my daughter gets her way, she has nagged me to take her to an away game for the last couple of seasons and for some reason wants to go to Fulham and as it's one of the few grounds I have never visited that might happen as well.[/p][/quote]getting a bit repetitive Mr Nick - work and family commitments don't seem to get in the way of your golf!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave
  • Score: -1

11:20am Fri 8 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Pembina wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.
Does your mother know you wrote this gabage
No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time.

Wind your neck in fool.
No doubt she was doing a big sh*t on your face puff pants
Oh Ray, I thought you were more classy than that.
Coprophilia.....not cool dude.
The demon drink (1 bottle of Summer Red) + the troll = Momentary lapse of standards.
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pembina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: But where are the stand out players? Where are our match winners? If we lose Rhodes to injury we are well and truly f@#ked make no mistake. We desperately need a big signing but unlike our weathy neighbours down the road we simply have zero cash to spend. It does not bode well when we're up against clubs who can go out and spend £11m on a striker. I repeat, lose Rhodes to injury or poor form and its good night god bless for us.[/p][/quote]Does your mother know you wrote this gabage[/p][/quote]No but yours does, she was on all fours with my laptop on her back at the time. Wind your neck in fool.[/p][/quote]No doubt she was doing a big sh*t on your face puff pants[/p][/quote]Oh Ray, I thought you were more classy than that. Coprophilia.....not cool dude.[/p][/quote]The demon drink (1 bottle of Summer Red) + the troll = Momentary lapse of standards. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 3

1:13pm Fri 8 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

dangerous dave wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bellypork wrote:
We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!!
We start the season in much better shape than we did last year.

One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages.

If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.
time for a bib and nappy change Mr Greenslaver!!!
out with the cowboys and indians
Well done Dave, good of you to share the full extent of your wit and wisdom with us all again.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bellypork[/bold] wrote: We need a central defender ASAP. We look strong all over the pitch but not in the centre half position, too slow and clumsy, we'll learn more come 10pm tomorrow!!!!![/p][/quote]We start the season in much better shape than we did last year. One thing is for certain, whatever the result tomorrow, there will be a hysterical overreaction on these pages. If we win it will be the 'we're going up' brigade and if we don't raving Dave and the trolls will be at it again.[/p][/quote]time for a bib and nappy change Mr Greenslaver!!! out with the cowboys and indians[/p][/quote]Well done Dave, good of you to share the full extent of your wit and wisdom with us all again. greenscreener
  • Score: 1

3:46pm Fri 8 Aug 14

tall in the saddle says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.
And the season before.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Yes, Rovers can win promotion this season. So can the other 22 teams. They can also be relegated. In all probability they will do neither. Time will tell but I think it is rather early to be crowing about promotion. Lets have a look at the table on New Years Day, then you will have some idea where you are likely to playing in 2015-16. One thing however is certain. You will not beat the mighty Clarets this season, just as you failed to do last season.[/p][/quote]And the season before. tall in the saddle
  • Score: -1

4:00pm Fri 8 Aug 14

tall in the saddle says...

goldfinger59 wrote:
Definitely play offs is the challenge this season, anything better is a bonus, but look at The Dingles last season, who would have predicted promotion?
Excuse me - Automtic promotion and 8 points clear of a very good Derby County team.
[quote][p][bold]goldfinger59[/bold] wrote: Definitely play offs is the challenge this season, anything better is a bonus, but look at The Dingles last season, who would have predicted promotion?[/p][/quote]Excuse me - Automtic promotion and 8 points clear of a very good Derby County team. tall in the saddle
  • Score: -1

7:24am Sat 9 Aug 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Gary Bowyer won't get this team promoted just like Don Mackay couldn't get his team promoted. Whereas Lee, Kendall, Dalglish and Souness all could. He has neither the record of success nor the gravitas to inspire his players.
"Record of success" - he's only been a manager 12 months, give him a fair crack off the whip. Inspiration, we'll have to wait and see but again it's too early to judge him after only one season.
I was very pleased with the final 12 games of last season so lets see if we can continue with that form and we'll all be happy.
You clearly haven't got a clue what I'm talking about. How long do you think we should give him to develop as a manager? This is Venky's fifth season. Another five seasons of "we looked good for a proportion of the game/season" of "we'll learn from this and take the positives"

Bowyer will not get this side promoted. More likely than last season because Venkys are only offering 75% off rather than a free season ticket.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: Gary Bowyer won't get this team promoted just like Don Mackay couldn't get his team promoted. Whereas Lee, Kendall, Dalglish and Souness all could. He has neither the record of success nor the gravitas to inspire his players.[/p][/quote]"Record of success" - he's only been a manager 12 months, give him a fair crack off the whip. Inspiration, we'll have to wait and see but again it's too early to judge him after only one season. I was very pleased with the final 12 games of last season so lets see if we can continue with that form and we'll all be happy.[/p][/quote]You clearly haven't got a clue what I'm talking about. How long do you think we should give him to develop as a manager? This is Venky's fifth season. Another five seasons of "we looked good for a proportion of the game/season" of "we'll learn from this and take the positives" Bowyer will not get this side promoted. More likely than last season because Venkys are only offering 75% off rather than a free season ticket. OnePostThenTheOther
  • Score: 1

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