No immediate further player pay-offs for Rovers after Campbell and Etuhu exits

This Is Lancashire: Dickson Etuhu Dickson Etuhu

BLACKBURN Rovers have no immediate plans to make further player pay-offs.

The Ewood Park outfit yesterday came to financial agreements with Dickson Etuhu and DJ Campbell to rip up their lucrative contracts.

Rovers managing director Derek Shaw admitted the club will continue to try to ‘clear the decks’ in an attempt to fall in line with Financial Fair Play.

But it is understood, for the time being at least, that Etuhu, Campbell and David Goodwillie will be the only members of Gary Bowyer’s squad to be paid to leave.

Shaw said: “We’ve been trying to sort something out for a while now and we’ve finally agreed something.

“It was the same last summer with Gael Givet, Danny Murphy and Morten Gamst Pedersen – we’re trying to move on players who do not fit in the manager’s plans.

“We’re trying to clear the decks and there’s no point having those players around if they are not going to feature.

“It’s well documented about the Financial Fair Play rules and we’ve got to work to try and get everything in order.

“But just because they’ve gone it does not mean the costs have gone as we’ve agreed settlements.”

Etuhu had two years remaining on the four-year contract, worth more than £30,000 a week, he signed after joining Rovers for £1.5m from Fulham in August 2012.

Campbell, another of the club’s highest earners, had one year remaining on the two-year deal he penned after arriving on a free transfer in July 2013.

Both players proved to be expensive flops with Etuhu, 32, making just 24 appearances in two injury plagued seasons and Campbell, also 32, appearing on only nine occasions in his sole full campaign at Rovers.

Campbell was arrested in December by the National Crime Agency as part of a probe into alleged spot-fixing in football and subsequently released on bail without charge.

The departures will not lead to Bowyer being given significant funds to spend in the transfer market.

But the Rovers boss, whose two signings so far have been free transfers, is confident he will soon be making more additions.

Bowyer, whose priority is to strengthen his defence, said: “We have to cut our cloth accordingly now and put a structure in place.

“We’ve been trying to do that over the last 12 months and, as I’ve stressed, it will probably take another two more windows before the club is back on a sensible standing.”

Leon Best, Jordan Slew and Alex Marrow, who in May were placed on the transfer list, are expected to be present at Brockhall this morning for the start of pre-season training.

But Ruben Rochina, having been on loan at Rayo Vallecano last season, will not return until Saturday, while it remains unclear whether David Dunn and Markus Olsson will take part in the first session of the summer.

Dunn and Olsson are now officially free agents although Rovers remain in talks with the out-of-contract duo.

Striker Goodwillie, meanwhile, is training with St Johnstone following his release.

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9:21am Wed 2 Jul 14

French Rover says...

When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing.

Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.
When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing. Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on. French Rover
  • Score: 42

9:38am Wed 2 Jul 14

LittleRonnieHildersley says...

French Rover wrote:
When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing.

Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.
The only leech that sticks out now is Best - maybe we could all chip in a fiver to contribute to his departure!

Am quite happy with what Bowyer's doing with transfers and the squad - really looking forward to the start of the new season.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing. Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.[/p][/quote]The only leech that sticks out now is Best - maybe we could all chip in a fiver to contribute to his departure! Am quite happy with what Bowyer's doing with transfers and the squad - really looking forward to the start of the new season. LittleRonnieHildersley
  • Score: 35

9:44am Wed 2 Jul 14

LittleRonnieHildersley says...

LittleRonnieHildersl
ey
wrote:
French Rover wrote:
When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing.

Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.
The only leech that sticks out now is Best - maybe we could all chip in a fiver to contribute to his departure!

Am quite happy with what Bowyer's doing with transfers and the squad - really looking forward to the start of the new season.
ps cue dingle trolls with long winded, tedious diatribe about FFP and mouth foaming obsessive posting about rovers, closely followed by DD / Victor Meldrew.
[quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing. Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.[/p][/quote]The only leech that sticks out now is Best - maybe we could all chip in a fiver to contribute to his departure! Am quite happy with what Bowyer's doing with transfers and the squad - really looking forward to the start of the new season.[/p][/quote]ps cue dingle trolls with long winded, tedious diatribe about FFP and mouth foaming obsessive posting about rovers, closely followed by DD / Victor Meldrew. LittleRonnieHildersley
  • Score: 30

10:30am Wed 2 Jul 14

owd nick says...

LittleRonnieHildersl
ey
wrote:
LittleRonnieHildersl

ey
wrote:
French Rover wrote:
When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing.

Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.
The only leech that sticks out now is Best - maybe we could all chip in a fiver to contribute to his departure!

Am quite happy with what Bowyer's doing with transfers and the squad - really looking forward to the start of the new season.
ps cue dingle trolls with long winded, tedious diatribe about FFP and mouth foaming obsessive posting about rovers, closely followed by DD / Victor Meldrew.
That's an insult to Victor Meldrew if there ever was one!
[quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing. Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.[/p][/quote]The only leech that sticks out now is Best - maybe we could all chip in a fiver to contribute to his departure! Am quite happy with what Bowyer's doing with transfers and the squad - really looking forward to the start of the new season.[/p][/quote]ps cue dingle trolls with long winded, tedious diatribe about FFP and mouth foaming obsessive posting about rovers, closely followed by DD / Victor Meldrew.[/p][/quote]That's an insult to Victor Meldrew if there ever was one! owd nick
  • Score: 18

10:43am Wed 2 Jul 14

owd nick says...

French Rover wrote:
When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing.

Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.
Quite right Frenchie.

I suspect that the pay offs are much smaller than fans expect; the fact that they have been released without a fee actually makes them more attractive to other clubs, if attractive in this case is the word.

Again the article spells out the implication of FFP for the next two windows at least; but Rovers can feel confident now that depend on what sanctions, if any, are levied on them by the FA can be challenged.

In just 12 months they have removed around 30 players from the staff and somehow brought in better players, making us a much more viable unit on and off the park.

Don't like wishing summer away but I for one can't wait for the season to begin.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: When you look at the financial implications (pay them off now or pay them off week by week over the length of their contracts) it is good footballing sense to get them out of the club now. Must be nothing worse for team morale if you are a new player to the club (Maybe 5 to 10 grand a week) training hard and playing hard and you see `star` players lolling about the place and still picking up 30 grand a week for doing nothing. Good work Rovers in moving this rubbish on.[/p][/quote]Quite right Frenchie. I suspect that the pay offs are much smaller than fans expect; the fact that they have been released without a fee actually makes them more attractive to other clubs, if attractive in this case is the word. Again the article spells out the implication of FFP for the next two windows at least; but Rovers can feel confident now that depend on what sanctions, if any, are levied on them by the FA can be challenged. In just 12 months they have removed around 30 players from the staff and somehow brought in better players, making us a much more viable unit on and off the park. Don't like wishing summer away but I for one can't wait for the season to begin. owd nick
  • Score: 22

10:57am Wed 2 Jul 14

bring back the good old days says...

LB is a far more marketable loan possibility, maybe even a low cost offload when the real trading starts.
As said we have done a hefty clearing of the decks which will /could give us a healthy appeal platform (if indeed one is needed).
LB is a far more marketable loan possibility, maybe even a low cost offload when the real trading starts. As said we have done a hefty clearing of the decks which will /could give us a healthy appeal platform (if indeed one is needed). bring back the good old days
  • Score: 14

11:09am Wed 2 Jul 14

TurfMoorTom says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
LB is a far more marketable loan possibility, maybe even a low cost offload when the real trading starts.
As said we have done a hefty clearing of the decks which will /could give us a healthy appeal platform (if indeed one is needed).
Agree. Wouldn't surprise me if Pulis came back in for Best, either initial loan or free transfer. Similarly Norwich could do worse than take him on loan.
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: LB is a far more marketable loan possibility, maybe even a low cost offload when the real trading starts. As said we have done a hefty clearing of the decks which will /could give us a healthy appeal platform (if indeed one is needed).[/p][/quote]Agree. Wouldn't surprise me if Pulis came back in for Best, either initial loan or free transfer. Similarly Norwich could do worse than take him on loan. TurfMoorTom
  • Score: 0

12:33pm Wed 2 Jul 14

I am the voice of my own god says...

probably run out of money.......bin dippers!!!
probably run out of money.......bin dippers!!! I am the voice of my own god
  • Score: -13

12:40pm Wed 2 Jul 14

A Darener says...

Apart from England's performances everything this summer is looking up. The World Cup has produced some great football. The weather is sunny. Burnley are struggling to attract cheap additions, we have the added incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly, SC/ WLUV's etc will be running out of facts to bore us with, FFP etc. And best of all the Rovers are finally getting rid of the dead wood and players returning to training buoyed up by the prospect of the best season to come for over three years. Even I, Mrs D's and the Venky's ( sounds like a pop group) worst critic am feeling so optimistic I may even return to the fold. Boy that sun's hot!
Apart from England's performances everything this summer is looking up. The World Cup has produced some great football. The weather is sunny. Burnley are struggling to attract cheap additions, we have the added incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly, SC/ WLUV's etc will be running out of facts to bore us with, FFP etc. And best of all the Rovers are finally getting rid of the dead wood and players returning to training buoyed up by the prospect of the best season to come for over three years. Even I, Mrs D's and the Venky's ( sounds like a pop group) worst critic am feeling so optimistic I may even return to the fold. Boy that sun's hot! A Darener
  • Score: 9

12:49pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

A Darener wrote:
Apart from England's performances everything this summer is looking up. The World Cup has produced some great football. The weather is sunny. Burnley are struggling to attract cheap additions, we have the added incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly, SC/ WLUV's etc will be running out of facts to bore us with, FFP etc. And best of all the Rovers are finally getting rid of the dead wood and players returning to training buoyed up by the prospect of the best season to come for over three years. Even I, Mrs D's and the Venky's ( sounds like a pop group) worst critic am feeling so optimistic I may even return to the fold. Boy that sun's hot!
Ill second that, the tables are turning, i was the biggest critic of the venkys, but are they now worth listening too ?
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Apart from England's performances everything this summer is looking up. The World Cup has produced some great football. The weather is sunny. Burnley are struggling to attract cheap additions, we have the added incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly, SC/ WLUV's etc will be running out of facts to bore us with, FFP etc. And best of all the Rovers are finally getting rid of the dead wood and players returning to training buoyed up by the prospect of the best season to come for over three years. Even I, Mrs D's and the Venky's ( sounds like a pop group) worst critic am feeling so optimistic I may even return to the fold. Boy that sun's hot![/p][/quote]Ill second that, the tables are turning, i was the biggest critic of the venkys, but are they now worth listening too ? Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 9

12:49pm Wed 2 Jul 14

I am the voice of my own god says...

look how the mighty have fallen.....incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly......this is what Rovers have become.....you will have to stay up even later to watch the clips of Rovers, as they will no doubt be the last billing on the championship when you are losing to Brighton and others.....
look how the mighty have fallen.....incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly......this is what Rovers have become.....you will have to stay up even later to watch the clips of Rovers, as they will no doubt be the last billing on the championship when you are losing to Brighton and others..... I am the voice of my own god
  • Score: -24

1:45pm Wed 2 Jul 14

A Darener says...

Glad you realise we were "mighty". Now that things are getting put right we will return to those heady days. None of the last few years were the fans doing, but it looks like the Venky's have learnt a very harsh lesson and are putting things right.
As for stopping up late to watch the Rovers on tv, have you never heard of recording programmes? Then again tvs in Burnley are probably still black and white with 12 inch screens.
Glad you realise we were "mighty". Now that things are getting put right we will return to those heady days. None of the last few years were the fans doing, but it looks like the Venky's have learnt a very harsh lesson and are putting things right. As for stopping up late to watch the Rovers on tv, have you never heard of recording programmes? Then again tvs in Burnley are probably still black and white with 12 inch screens. A Darener
  • Score: 15

1:49pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Haven't been able to comment recently and can see I've missed quite a bit. All good news at the moment as I never thought we would be able to get rid of these players so easily given the fat contracts they were sitting on.
Looks like the players have seen sense as they weren't going to play here again. Don't know what's happenning with Best at the moment but it'll probably come out soon.
Looks like Venkys are willing to take the financial hit here as it was them and others who got us in the mess in the first place. Anyway things are looking up for thr new season and the squad is almost complete so a

transfer ban, if we get one, should havelittle effect this season.
Haven't been able to comment recently and can see I've missed quite a bit. All good news at the moment as I never thought we would be able to get rid of these players so easily given the fat contracts they were sitting on. Looks like the players have seen sense as they weren't going to play here again. Don't know what's happenning with Best at the moment but it'll probably come out soon. Looks like Venkys are willing to take the financial hit here as it was them and others who got us in the mess in the first place. Anyway things are looking up for thr new season and the squad is almost complete so a transfer ban, if we get one, should havelittle effect this season. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 10

2:01pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Harwoodstblue says...

A Darener wrote:
Glad you realise we were "mighty". Now that things are getting put right we will return to those heady days. None of the last few years were the fans doing, but it looks like the Venky's have learnt a very harsh lesson and are putting things right.
As for stopping up late to watch the Rovers on tv, have you never heard of recording programmes? Then again tvs in Burnley are probably still black and white with 12 inch screens.
A very harsh and expensive lesson Darener. Looks like Venkys are committed long term despite the doom merchant trolls who come on here. Things are looking up for the better.
By the way the trolls are quiet today.
When do we go into administration?
When does Rhodes leave?
When are we relegated to div one? All this should have happened by now but things are looking better. Good stuff......
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Glad you realise we were "mighty". Now that things are getting put right we will return to those heady days. None of the last few years were the fans doing, but it looks like the Venky's have learnt a very harsh lesson and are putting things right. As for stopping up late to watch the Rovers on tv, have you never heard of recording programmes? Then again tvs in Burnley are probably still black and white with 12 inch screens.[/p][/quote]A very harsh and expensive lesson Darener. Looks like Venkys are committed long term despite the doom merchant trolls who come on here. Things are looking up for the better. By the way the trolls are quiet today. When do we go into administration? When does Rhodes leave? When are we relegated to div one? All this should have happened by now but things are looking better. Good stuff...... Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 12

2:32pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Heidenreicher says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
look how the mighty have fallen.....incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly......this is what Rovers have become.....you will have to stay up even later to watch the clips of Rovers, as they will no doubt be the last billing on the championship when you are losing to Brighton and others.....
Ding, ding, ding.

The Dingles have landed.
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: look how the mighty have fallen.....incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly......this is what Rovers have become.....you will have to stay up even later to watch the clips of Rovers, as they will no doubt be the last billing on the championship when you are losing to Brighton and others.....[/p][/quote]Ding, ding, ding. The Dingles have landed. Heidenreicher
  • Score: 11

2:56pm Wed 2 Jul 14

I am the voice of my own god says...

sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou
gh, Huddersfield....Mill
wall...Brentford....
...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon
sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou gh, Huddersfield....Mill wall...Brentford.... ...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon I am the voice of my own god
  • Score: -18

4:20pm Wed 2 Jul 14

jim 2012 says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
probably run out of money.......bin dippers!!!
no they haven't and no your not
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: probably run out of money.......bin dippers!!![/p][/quote]no they haven't and no your not jim 2012
  • Score: 1

5:08pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Rob_H2O says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Glad you realise we were "mighty". Now that things are getting put right we will return to those heady days. None of the last few years were the fans doing, but it looks like the Venky's have learnt a very harsh lesson and are putting things right.
As for stopping up late to watch the Rovers on tv, have you never heard of recording programmes? Then again tvs in Burnley are probably still black and white with 12 inch screens.
A very harsh and expensive lesson Darener. Looks like Venkys are committed long term despite the doom merchant trolls who come on here. Things are looking up for the better.
By the way the trolls are quiet today.
When do we go into administration?
When does Rhodes leave?
When are we relegated to div one? All this should have happened by now but things are looking better. Good stuff......
Your previous titles to 1995, were shown on the silent newsreels, fighting for screen space with the German Kaiser!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Glad you realise we were "mighty". Now that things are getting put right we will return to those heady days. None of the last few years were the fans doing, but it looks like the Venky's have learnt a very harsh lesson and are putting things right. As for stopping up late to watch the Rovers on tv, have you never heard of recording programmes? Then again tvs in Burnley are probably still black and white with 12 inch screens.[/p][/quote]A very harsh and expensive lesson Darener. Looks like Venkys are committed long term despite the doom merchant trolls who come on here. Things are looking up for the better. By the way the trolls are quiet today. When do we go into administration? When does Rhodes leave? When are we relegated to div one? All this should have happened by now but things are looking better. Good stuff......[/p][/quote]Your previous titles to 1995, were shown on the silent newsreels, fighting for screen space with the German Kaiser! Rob_H2O
  • Score: 2

5:10pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Rob_H2O says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
look how the mighty have fallen.....incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly......this is what Rovers have become.....you will have to stay up even later to watch the clips of Rovers, as they will no doubt be the last billing on the championship when you are losing to Brighton and others.....
To all Rovers lads and lasses - welcome to our world. He is now amongst you using this ID rather than Super Claret. Good look guys. You'll bloody well need it!
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: look how the mighty have fallen.....incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly......this is what Rovers have become.....you will have to stay up even later to watch the clips of Rovers, as they will no doubt be the last billing on the championship when you are losing to Brighton and others.....[/p][/quote]To all Rovers lads and lasses - welcome to our world. He is now amongst you using this ID rather than Super Claret. Good look guys. You'll bloody well need it! Rob_H2O
  • Score: 20

5:29pm Wed 2 Jul 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou

gh, Huddersfield....Mill

wall...Brentford....

...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon
Aww bless you sweetheart, you don't have to apologise for getting all giddy going to places like Old Trafford and Anfield - you've probably never been before and are realistic enough to know you'll never go again. Well done for being honest.

There's no shame in looking at the fixture list either - after all it's only what the supporters of other League 1 standard clubs like Bradford, Swindon and Barnsley did when they had there excruciating stints in the big league.......
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou gh, Huddersfield....Mill wall...Brentford.... ...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon[/p][/quote]Aww bless you sweetheart, you don't have to apologise for getting all giddy going to places like Old Trafford and Anfield - you've probably never been before and are realistic enough to know you'll never go again. Well done for being honest. There's no shame in looking at the fixture list either - after all it's only what the supporters of other League 1 standard clubs like Bradford, Swindon and Barnsley did when they had there excruciating stints in the big league....... more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 3

5:44pm Wed 2 Jul 14

A Darener says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou

gh, Huddersfield....Mill

wall...Brentford....

...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon
So have all the other PL clubs, when do Burnley come? Ah! I see, well that's three points nailed on!
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou gh, Huddersfield....Mill wall...Brentford.... ...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon[/p][/quote]So have all the other PL clubs, when do Burnley come? Ah! I see, well that's three points nailed on! A Darener
  • Score: 4

5:49pm Wed 2 Jul 14

jack went up says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou gh, Huddersfield....Mill wall...Brentford.... ...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon
It must be quite a relief personally for you that burnley are in the premiership, I mean you know only need to come up with 19 excuses as to why you couldn't make the fame, as opposed to 23.
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou gh, Huddersfield....Mill wall...Brentford.... ...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon[/p][/quote]It must be quite a relief personally for you that burnley are in the premiership, I mean you know only need to come up with 19 excuses as to why you couldn't make the fame, as opposed to 23. jack went up
  • Score: 3

6:35pm Wed 2 Jul 14

keanoutofrovers says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou

gh, Huddersfield....Mill

wall...Brentford....

...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon
It was on Sky Sports news today that Chelsea have placed bids of over 120million for Vincent Kompany, Thiago Silva and Gerard Pique.

It is rumored that Jose Mourinho is petrified at the prospect of facing Marvin Sordell on the opening day of the season. He told Sky Sports news "We can't compete with the level of players that Burnley have managed to recruit so we hope that by using a 7-2-1 formation we may be able to keep the score down to single figures"

de·lu·sion·al
adjective
1. having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions:
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: sorry, been busy looking at the fixture list, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, so going to be seeing quite a lot of the country, as will you......Middlesbrou gh, Huddersfield....Mill wall...Brentford.... ...we might slum it and come back to Ewood if we are drawn against you in the cup, but that will probably be the only time we ever meet again.......as you drop down the divisions, you will be playing Luton soon[/p][/quote]It was on Sky Sports news today that Chelsea have placed bids of over 120million for Vincent Kompany, Thiago Silva and Gerard Pique. It is rumored that Jose Mourinho is petrified at the prospect of facing Marvin Sordell on the opening day of the season. He told Sky Sports news "We can't compete with the level of players that Burnley have managed to recruit so we hope that by using a 7-2-1 formation we may be able to keep the score down to single figures" de·lu·sion·al adjective 1. having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions: keanoutofrovers
  • Score: 3

6:45pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Richard Oakley says...

Hockaday's comment e Leeds United made me think of Blackburn Rovers. Squad 42 or 41and Orr who's on loan with Toronto in MLS and yet Bowyer is still talking about wanting to bring Dunn and Olsson back and bring in a few more player It does seem that the players out made space for intended new arrivals. No work on a defence that let in 67 last season, 5 more than the previous one.

Last full set of accounts reported a loss of £36m and I can easily see the next 4 set reporting a total of £50m losses and that before any fines. Over a five year period, Blackburn Rovers could easily see Venkys lose £100m. Promotion is no guarantee those losses won't happen either.

Blackburn Rovers employ 208 staff according to one website.

If Venkys are prepared to suffer such losses and be here for the long haul, good for them. Keeping hold of both football club and Rhodes must mean they have nerves of steel.
Hockaday's comment e Leeds United made me think of Blackburn Rovers. Squad 42 or 41and Orr who's on loan with Toronto in MLS and yet Bowyer is still talking about wanting to bring Dunn and Olsson back and bring in a few more player It does seem that the players out made space for intended new arrivals. No work on a defence that let in 67 last season, 5 more than the previous one. Last full set of accounts reported a loss of £36m and I can easily see the next 4 set reporting a total of £50m losses and that before any fines. Over a five year period, Blackburn Rovers could easily see Venkys lose £100m. Promotion is no guarantee those losses won't happen either. Blackburn Rovers employ 208 staff according to one website. If Venkys are prepared to suffer such losses and be here for the long haul, good for them. Keeping hold of both football club and Rhodes must mean they have nerves of steel. Richard Oakley
  • Score: -1

7:36pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Rob_H2O wrote:
I am the voice of my own god wrote:
look how the mighty have fallen.....incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly......this is what Rovers have become.....you will have to stay up even later to watch the clips of Rovers, as they will no doubt be the last billing on the championship when you are losing to Brighton and others.....
To all Rovers lads and lasses - welcome to our world. He is now amongst you using this ID rather than Super Claret. Good look guys. You'll bloody well need it!
The best thing to do with this lunatic Robbo is to do as I do and ignore him. He gets absolutely nowhere with me and he knows it, although it doesn't stop him having the occasional try
.unsuccessfully I might add.
[quote][p][bold]Rob_H2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: look how the mighty have fallen.....incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly......this is what Rovers have become.....you will have to stay up even later to watch the clips of Rovers, as they will no doubt be the last billing on the championship when you are losing to Brighton and others.....[/p][/quote]To all Rovers lads and lasses - welcome to our world. He is now amongst you using this ID rather than Super Claret. Good look guys. You'll bloody well need it![/p][/quote]The best thing to do with this lunatic Robbo is to do as I do and ignore him. He gets absolutely nowhere with me and he knows it, although it doesn't stop him having the occasional try .unsuccessfully I might add. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 2

7:57pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Richard Oakley wrote:
Hockaday's comment e Leeds United made me think of Blackburn Rovers. Squad 42 or 41and Orr who's on loan with Toronto in MLS and yet Bowyer is still talking about wanting to bring Dunn and Olsson back and bring in a few more player It does seem that the players out made space for intended new arrivals. No work on a defence that let in 67 last season, 5 more than the previous one.

Last full set of accounts reported a loss of £36m and I can easily see the next 4 set reporting a total of £50m losses and that before any fines. Over a five year period, Blackburn Rovers could easily see Venkys lose £100m. Promotion is no guarantee those losses won't happen either.

Blackburn Rovers employ 208 staff according to one website.

If Venkys are prepared to suffer such losses and be here for the long haul, good for them. Keeping hold of both football club and Rhodes must mean they have nerves of steel.
As I've said before Venkys don't seem to be worried by ffp and continue to sign players. I've also said before that perhaps they know something the rest of us don't. They certainly aren't worried about putting money in, the paying up of contracts being a recent example.
Bowyer only stated today that he's looking to strenghthen the defence but last season isn't really anything to go off with a new manager finding his feet and a new team taking time to bed in. I'm surprised you don't realise that.
[quote][p][bold]Richard Oakley[/bold] wrote: Hockaday's comment e Leeds United made me think of Blackburn Rovers. Squad 42 or 41and Orr who's on loan with Toronto in MLS and yet Bowyer is still talking about wanting to bring Dunn and Olsson back and bring in a few more player It does seem that the players out made space for intended new arrivals. No work on a defence that let in 67 last season, 5 more than the previous one. Last full set of accounts reported a loss of £36m and I can easily see the next 4 set reporting a total of £50m losses and that before any fines. Over a five year period, Blackburn Rovers could easily see Venkys lose £100m. Promotion is no guarantee those losses won't happen either. Blackburn Rovers employ 208 staff according to one website. If Venkys are prepared to suffer such losses and be here for the long haul, good for them. Keeping hold of both football club and Rhodes must mean they have nerves of steel.[/p][/quote]As I've said before Venkys don't seem to be worried by ffp and continue to sign players. I've also said before that perhaps they know something the rest of us don't. They certainly aren't worried about putting money in, the paying up of contracts being a recent example. Bowyer only stated today that he's looking to strenghthen the defence but last season isn't really anything to go off with a new manager finding his feet and a new team taking time to bed in. I'm surprised you don't realise that. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 2

8:06pm Wed 2 Jul 14

owd nick says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Apart from England's performances everything this summer is looking up. The World Cup has produced some great football. The weather is sunny. Burnley are struggling to attract cheap additions, we have the added incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly, SC/ WLUV's etc will be running out of facts to bore us with, FFP etc. And best of all the Rovers are finally getting rid of the dead wood and players returning to training buoyed up by the prospect of the best season to come for over three years. Even I, Mrs D's and the Venky's ( sounds like a pop group) worst critic am feeling so optimistic I may even return to the fold. Boy that sun's hot!
Ill second that, the tables are turning, i was the biggest critic of the venkys, but are they now worth listening too ?
They are worth listening to now purely because they have real football people in place who we can only assume tell them the reality of the situation as opposed to blowing smoke up their arses.

I think all of us will remain sceptical at best regarding Venky's, for me it will take an awful lot more before they clear the horror of the last few years.

But to be fair to them once the reality of owning a football club bit they have been consistent in their message.
[quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Apart from England's performances everything this summer is looking up. The World Cup has produced some great football. The weather is sunny. Burnley are struggling to attract cheap additions, we have the added incentive to watch MOTD and see Burnley thumped weekly, SC/ WLUV's etc will be running out of facts to bore us with, FFP etc. And best of all the Rovers are finally getting rid of the dead wood and players returning to training buoyed up by the prospect of the best season to come for over three years. Even I, Mrs D's and the Venky's ( sounds like a pop group) worst critic am feeling so optimistic I may even return to the fold. Boy that sun's hot![/p][/quote]Ill second that, the tables are turning, i was the biggest critic of the venkys, but are they now worth listening too ?[/p][/quote]They are worth listening to now purely because they have real football people in place who we can only assume tell them the reality of the situation as opposed to blowing smoke up their arses. I think all of us will remain sceptical at best regarding Venky's, for me it will take an awful lot more before they clear the horror of the last few years. But to be fair to them once the reality of owning a football club bit they have been consistent in their message. owd nick
  • Score: 1

9:04pm Wed 2 Jul 14

baldie says...

Well,they've had their say on our signings.
Wonder what the reaction would have been on here if it had been announced that we're in for 3 internationals.
Then it went on to say that they're Michael Duff,Steven Reid and Matt Gilks.
What would DD have made of those 3 gems.
Well,they've had their say on our signings. Wonder what the reaction would have been on here if it had been announced that we're in for 3 internationals. Then it went on to say that they're Michael Duff,Steven Reid and Matt Gilks. What would DD have made of those 3 gems. baldie
  • Score: -1

10:42pm Wed 2 Jul 14

digitusjonfred says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
probably run out of money.......bin dippers!!!
cockhead
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: probably run out of money.......bin dippers!!![/p][/quote]cockhead digitusjonfred
  • Score: 2

10:49pm Wed 2 Jul 14

digitusjonfred says...

baldie wrote:
Well,they've had their say on our signings.
Wonder what the reaction would have been on here if it had been announced that we're in for 3 internationals.
Then it went on to say that they're Michael Duff,Steven Reid and Matt Gilks.
What would DD have made of those 3 gems.
Duff says it all, Reid past it and a journeyman goalie. Class ??
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: Well,they've had their say on our signings. Wonder what the reaction would have been on here if it had been announced that we're in for 3 internationals. Then it went on to say that they're Michael Duff,Steven Reid and Matt Gilks. What would DD have made of those 3 gems.[/p][/quote]Duff says it all, Reid past it and a journeyman goalie. Class ?? digitusjonfred
  • Score: 0

11:53pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Super Claret says...

"Rovers managing director Derek Shaw admitted the club will continue to try to ‘clear the decks’ in an attempt to fall in line with Financial Fair Play."

L
O
L

Category One Squeaky Bum Syndrome.
"Rovers managing director Derek Shaw admitted the club will continue to try to ‘clear the decks’ in an attempt to fall in line with Financial Fair Play." L O L Category One Squeaky Bum Syndrome. Super Claret
  • Score: -1

9:09am Thu 3 Jul 14

owd nick says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Richard Oakley wrote:
Hockaday's comment e Leeds United made me think of Blackburn Rovers. Squad 42 or 41and Orr who's on loan with Toronto in MLS and yet Bowyer is still talking about wanting to bring Dunn and Olsson back and bring in a few more player It does seem that the players out made space for intended new arrivals. No work on a defence that let in 67 last season, 5 more than the previous one.

Last full set of accounts reported a loss of £36m and I can easily see the next 4 set reporting a total of £50m losses and that before any fines. Over a five year period, Blackburn Rovers could easily see Venkys lose £100m. Promotion is no guarantee those losses won't happen either.

Blackburn Rovers employ 208 staff according to one website.

If Venkys are prepared to suffer such losses and be here for the long haul, good for them. Keeping hold of both football club and Rhodes must mean they have nerves of steel.
As I've said before Venkys don't seem to be worried by ffp and continue to sign players. I've also said before that perhaps they know something the rest of us don't. They certainly aren't worried about putting money in, the paying up of contracts being a recent example.
Bowyer only stated today that he's looking to strenghthen the defence but last season isn't really anything to go off with a new manager finding his feet and a new team taking time to bed in. I'm surprised you don't realise that.
Venky's can't pay off the contracts directly, it has to be Rovers and Venky's can't just chuck money at the situation as they have in the past, they are restricted by FFP in that respect.

As for the figures quoted by Mr Oakley, well they show a massive lack of knowledge as to how FFP works (or doesn't).

Past debts are not relevant in FFP, it works on a season by season income v outgoings ratio.

Therefore the only figures that matter now are those for the 2013 - 14 season, and the only figures that will matter at this time next year are the figures for the 2014 - 15 season, and so on.

That's what Shaw and GB mean when they say it will take two more windows before the club is back on an even keel.

Rovers are taking the financial hit now, the FA will look at their accounts and decide if fines and / or a transfer embargo are required, Rovers know this, and because Venky's now have people in place who know what they are doing so do Venky's.

I would expect that Rovers and the majority of clubs affected will have been talking to the FA, asking for guidance, explaining the steps they are taking; etc, etc, so nothing will come as a shock to either party.

And Rovers, just like any other club have the right to appeal, as I said before, the precedent has been set with Man City.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richard Oakley[/bold] wrote: Hockaday's comment e Leeds United made me think of Blackburn Rovers. Squad 42 or 41and Orr who's on loan with Toronto in MLS and yet Bowyer is still talking about wanting to bring Dunn and Olsson back and bring in a few more player It does seem that the players out made space for intended new arrivals. No work on a defence that let in 67 last season, 5 more than the previous one. Last full set of accounts reported a loss of £36m and I can easily see the next 4 set reporting a total of £50m losses and that before any fines. Over a five year period, Blackburn Rovers could easily see Venkys lose £100m. Promotion is no guarantee those losses won't happen either. Blackburn Rovers employ 208 staff according to one website. If Venkys are prepared to suffer such losses and be here for the long haul, good for them. Keeping hold of both football club and Rhodes must mean they have nerves of steel.[/p][/quote]As I've said before Venkys don't seem to be worried by ffp and continue to sign players. I've also said before that perhaps they know something the rest of us don't. They certainly aren't worried about putting money in, the paying up of contracts being a recent example. Bowyer only stated today that he's looking to strenghthen the defence but last season isn't really anything to go off with a new manager finding his feet and a new team taking time to bed in. I'm surprised you don't realise that.[/p][/quote]Venky's can't pay off the contracts directly, it has to be Rovers and Venky's can't just chuck money at the situation as they have in the past, they are restricted by FFP in that respect. As for the figures quoted by Mr Oakley, well they show a massive lack of knowledge as to how FFP works (or doesn't). Past debts are not relevant in FFP, it works on a season by season income v outgoings ratio. Therefore the only figures that matter now are those for the 2013 - 14 season, and the only figures that will matter at this time next year are the figures for the 2014 - 15 season, and so on. That's what Shaw and GB mean when they say it will take two more windows before the club is back on an even keel. Rovers are taking the financial hit now, the FA will look at their accounts and decide if fines and / or a transfer embargo are required, Rovers know this, and because Venky's now have people in place who know what they are doing so do Venky's. I would expect that Rovers and the majority of clubs affected will have been talking to the FA, asking for guidance, explaining the steps they are taking; etc, etc, so nothing will come as a shock to either party. And Rovers, just like any other club have the right to appeal, as I said before, the precedent has been set with Man City. owd nick
  • Score: 1

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