Midfielder Dunn keen to play on at Ewood Park

This Is Lancashire: David Dunn David Dunn

OUT-of-contract star David Dunn is in talks over signing a new deal with Blackburn Rovers.

Discussions between the 34-year-old’s representative and Ewood Park are ongoing.

Dunn is keen to extend his stay at his hometown club to a 14th season – and, as revealed by the Lancashire Telegraph, Rovers boss Gary Bowyer is keen to keep him.

Dunn insisted he sees his immediate future on the field rather than in a coaching role.

“I want to keep playing,” said Dunn, who has scored 59 goals in 366 appearances for Rovers across two spells split by a stint at Birmingham City.

“I felt my form last season was pretty good so while my body stills feel up to playing, I want to focus on that. I’ve done my A Licence and coaching is something I’ll look to do in the future. But I certainly feel I’ve still got to offer a lot as a player.

“And if I can play another 20-odd games next season and my body still feels up to it, I would like to carry on after that.”

A double knee operation meant Dunn missed two months of last season.

But the attacking midfielder still made 24 appearances, scoring four times – including goal of the season contenders at home to Bolton Wanderers and Blackpool – and making six assists.

Dunn’s current 12-month contract officially expires on June 30.

But, as he is over the age of 24, he is free to talk to other clubs and it is understood there has been interest from outfits lower down the Football League.

But he has always maintained his desire to remain at Rovers.

Bowyer, too, has made it clear he wants to retain Dunn’s services.

Speaking to the Lancashire Telegraph last month Bowyer said: “I want to keep him.

“I think everybody knows my opinion on David Dunn and what he is to Blackburn Rovers.”

Bowyer would also like to keep left back Markus Olsson, the only other senior player in his squad to be out of contract.

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9:32am Tue 10 Jun 14

dallydally says...

Player/Coach would be a good deal for all concerned
Player/Coach would be a good deal for all concerned dallydally
  • Score: 15

9:32am Tue 10 Jun 14

Super_Clarets says...

Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate.

What a shambles.
Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate. What a shambles. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -71

9:42am Tue 10 Jun 14

Warnie says...

A great servant to the club and fully deserving of at least one more year. I reckon 25k per week is about right. Come on Venkys you can do it.
A great servant to the club and fully deserving of at least one more year. I reckon 25k per week is about right. Come on Venkys you can do it. Warnie
  • Score: -7

9:43am Tue 10 Jun 14

dangerous dave says...

Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave
  • Score: -31

9:44am Tue 10 Jun 14

jinkyjase says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate.

What a shambles.
ScruffyClaret

If, however unlikely, BRFC folded as a club tomorrow, we will gladly take with us the memory of ticker tape trophy parades, games against European opposition and witnessing some of the finest players in World football gracing Ewood Park. Not an open top bus parade for coming second.

Enjoy your single season caught in the headlights.
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]ScruffyClaret If, however unlikely, BRFC folded as a club tomorrow, we will gladly take with us the memory of ticker tape trophy parades, games against European opposition and witnessing some of the finest players in World football gracing Ewood Park. Not an open top bus parade for coming second. Enjoy your single season caught in the headlights. jinkyjase
  • Score: 40

9:46am Tue 10 Jun 14

claret777 says...

Of course he wants to stay.....nobody else wants him plus he's on a decent wage.....shame he can't last 90 minutes...he must live with costing you the 30 odd year thing for the rest of his life.
Of course he wants to stay.....nobody else wants him plus he's on a decent wage.....shame he can't last 90 minutes...he must live with costing you the 30 odd year thing for the rest of his life. claret777
  • Score: -23

9:52am Tue 10 Jun 14

marcusbrfc95 says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Do you go to games? Or do you just sit at home writing angry letters on things you haven't seen? As a rovers fan i can say your negativety is not needed
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Do you go to games? Or do you just sit at home writing angry letters on things you haven't seen? As a rovers fan i can say your negativety is not needed marcusbrfc95
  • Score: 22

9:56am Tue 10 Jun 14

RoboftheRovers2 says...

Every single story Super Clarets is on when it concerns the Rovers this obsession is getting out of hand it's time to seek professional help and as for Dunny staying on I would be more than happy to see that legend for another season he can come on and change a game take the Watford game were he scored a brace.
Every single story Super Clarets is on when it concerns the Rovers this obsession is getting out of hand it's time to seek professional help and as for Dunny staying on I would be more than happy to see that legend for another season he can come on and change a game take the Watford game were he scored a brace. RoboftheRovers2
  • Score: 13

9:58am Tue 10 Jun 14

Super_Clarets says...

Poor old Dunny, he wanted to retire being able to say he was never on the losing side to Burnley, what a shame then that we tubbed you at Ewood. Will never forget him sobbing on the touchline at full time, a memory that will last through the ages. David Dunn 1 - 2 Burnley.
Poor old Dunny, he wanted to retire being able to say he was never on the losing side to Burnley, what a shame then that we tubbed you at Ewood. Will never forget him sobbing on the touchline at full time, a memory that will last through the ages. David Dunn 1 - 2 Burnley. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -80

9:59am Tue 10 Jun 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Why wouldn't he want to stay at Rovers, no one else would have kept him all these years with very little impact to the team apart from the very occasional good performance. Assume he doesn't want a coaching role because he would not get any where near the sort of money he is now on. To be fair he did put more appearances in last season than he has done for a while. But for me it is still no way near enough for the money he will be on. This money should go into finding another good young play maker we can bring on along side of Cairney etc.
Why wouldn't he want to stay at Rovers, no one else would have kept him all these years with very little impact to the team apart from the very occasional good performance. Assume he doesn't want a coaching role because he would not get any where near the sort of money he is now on. To be fair he did put more appearances in last season than he has done for a while. But for me it is still no way near enough for the money he will be on. This money should go into finding another good young play maker we can bring on along side of Cairney etc. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 2

10:06am Tue 10 Jun 14

theswayzeexpress says...

Would love dunny to stay on but he needs to understand he will be a bit part player and therefore must accept a pay cut given the club's situation. If he's got rovers best interest at heart (and I believe he would rather take a pay cut with us than join a lower league team) then he will sign a reduced contract and hopefully continue on his way to a future coaching role with us. Markus Olsson I'm not so fussed about, I suppose the same applies to him, as he will essentially be a back up player. It's a fine balancing act for bowyer to buy and sell, and at the same time keep the harmony that has stabilised the squad.
Would love dunny to stay on but he needs to understand he will be a bit part player and therefore must accept a pay cut given the club's situation. If he's got rovers best interest at heart (and I believe he would rather take a pay cut with us than join a lower league team) then he will sign a reduced contract and hopefully continue on his way to a future coaching role with us. Markus Olsson I'm not so fussed about, I suppose the same applies to him, as he will essentially be a back up player. It's a fine balancing act for bowyer to buy and sell, and at the same time keep the harmony that has stabilised the squad. theswayzeexpress
  • Score: 7

10:23am Tue 10 Jun 14

theswayzeexpress says...

RoboftheRovers2 wrote:
Every single story Super Clarets is on when it concerns the Rovers this obsession is getting out of hand it's time to seek professional help and as for Dunny staying on I would be more than happy to see that legend for another season he can come on and change a game take the Watford game were he scored a brace.
Haha I've often thought the same about super_clarets, as he never comments on burnley pages. He is like one of those obnoxious emotionally neglected spoilt little brats with overprotective parents that is aloud to run around kicking and screaming because he is a "special child". And there's nothing we can do with this troll. When burnley get relegated next year he can simply hide behind a new profile name and continue the delusion.
[quote][p][bold]RoboftheRovers2[/bold] wrote: Every single story Super Clarets is on when it concerns the Rovers this obsession is getting out of hand it's time to seek professional help and as for Dunny staying on I would be more than happy to see that legend for another season he can come on and change a game take the Watford game were he scored a brace.[/p][/quote]Haha I've often thought the same about super_clarets, as he never comments on burnley pages. He is like one of those obnoxious emotionally neglected spoilt little brats with overprotective parents that is aloud to run around kicking and screaming because he is a "special child". And there's nothing we can do with this troll. When burnley get relegated next year he can simply hide behind a new profile name and continue the delusion. theswayzeexpress
  • Score: 4

10:32am Tue 10 Jun 14

inflightmagazine says...

I would like to see Dunny given a go in the coaching role. Creative players are a bit of a different bread and for the like of Tom Cairney having someone like Dunny around to coach him through the good and bad moments would be ideal. I said to the lads around me at the wigan game when Cairney scored that there is your replacement for David Dunn, but players like him need people around them that understand them and are willing to work off them.

Dunny I think can help with that both in terms of the player and getting those around them to understand the runs needed to support the player. I personally would have brought Tugay on board when we had the opportunity. Creativity is priceless in any league.
I would like to see Dunny given a go in the coaching role. Creative players are a bit of a different bread and for the like of Tom Cairney having someone like Dunny around to coach him through the good and bad moments would be ideal. I said to the lads around me at the wigan game when Cairney scored that there is your replacement for David Dunn, but players like him need people around them that understand them and are willing to work off them. Dunny I think can help with that both in terms of the player and getting those around them to understand the runs needed to support the player. I personally would have brought Tugay on board when we had the opportunity. Creativity is priceless in any league. inflightmagazine
  • Score: 4

10:50am Tue 10 Jun 14

Welsh Rover says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Did you not bother reading the article? It quite clearly states that there is already interest from further down the Football League.

Dunn is still good enough to change a game, and managed correctly he could play even more games this season. As for wages, I doubt very much that he'll be on anywhere close to £25k-a-week, although Bowyer's open desire to keep him at the club may also mean that a pay-as-you-play contract won't be discussed either. Seeing as how the lower league clubs won't be able to afford big wages anyway, I'd guess that £10k-a-week (with additional bonuses) will be the agreed contract.

As for Olsson, I really don't see the point in giving him a new contract when we already have three other players who can cover for Spurr at left-back.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Did you not bother reading the article? It quite clearly states that there is already interest from further down the Football League. Dunn is still good enough to change a game, and managed correctly he could play even more games this season. As for wages, I doubt very much that he'll be on anywhere close to £25k-a-week, although Bowyer's open desire to keep him at the club may also mean that a pay-as-you-play contract won't be discussed either. Seeing as how the lower league clubs won't be able to afford big wages anyway, I'd guess that £10k-a-week (with additional bonuses) will be the agreed contract. As for Olsson, I really don't see the point in giving him a new contract when we already have three other players who can cover for Spurr at left-back. Welsh Rover
  • Score: 15

10:58am Tue 10 Jun 14

dangerous dave says...

marcusbrfc95 wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Do you go to games? Or do you just sit at home writing angry letters on things you haven't seen? As a rovers fan i can say your negativety is not needed
thats your view but idiots like you with no more sense than money are!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS!
[quote][p][bold]marcusbrfc95[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Do you go to games? Or do you just sit at home writing angry letters on things you haven't seen? As a rovers fan i can say your negativety is not needed[/p][/quote]thats your view but idiots like you with no more sense than money are!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS! dangerous dave
  • Score: -14

11:19am Tue 10 Jun 14

marcusbrfc95 says...

dangerous dave wrote:
marcusbrfc95 wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Do you go to games? Or do you just sit at home writing angry letters on things you haven't seen? As a rovers fan i can say your negativety is not needed
thats your view but idiots like you with no more sense than money are!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS!
mate, you're an idiot... you really are, at the start when everything was bad, yes I was against Venkys e.t.c. However, things are now looking up and we are getting somewhere, instead of slating your own club actually support them, or go somewhere else, negativity is not wanted any more
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marcusbrfc95[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Been a good player for Rovers but now well past his sell by date - would nt get a contract elsewhere for playing a few minutes on the odd occasion - 'money for old rope' but this sums up the actions of the Management Team at Ewood!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Do you go to games? Or do you just sit at home writing angry letters on things you haven't seen? As a rovers fan i can say your negativety is not needed[/p][/quote]thats your view but idiots like you with no more sense than money are!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS![/p][/quote]mate, you're an idiot... you really are, at the start when everything was bad, yes I was against Venkys e.t.c. However, things are now looking up and we are getting somewhere, instead of slating your own club actually support them, or go somewhere else, negativity is not wanted any more marcusbrfc95
  • Score: 3

11:20am Tue 10 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate.

What a shambles.
NH
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]NH Old age pensioner
  • Score: 0

11:21am Tue 10 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Poor old Dunny, he wanted to retire being able to say he was never on the losing side to Burnley, what a shame then that we tubbed you at Ewood. Will never forget him sobbing on the touchline at full time, a memory that will last through the ages. David Dunn 1 - 2 Burnley.
NH
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Poor old Dunny, he wanted to retire being able to say he was never on the losing side to Burnley, what a shame then that we tubbed you at Ewood. Will never forget him sobbing on the touchline at full time, a memory that will last through the ages. David Dunn 1 - 2 Burnley.[/p][/quote]NH Old age pensioner
  • Score: 2

11:24am Tue 10 Jun 14

hasslem hasslem says...

disagree with most of the comments on here (ignoring the ones from our resident idiot).

for me dunny has had his day and his mullah from rovers - he is not reliable enough for us and can only see him at a lower level. maybe a couple of seasons at pne?

if he wants to stay at rovers - he should hang up his clogs and finish his coaching badges and help out off the field
disagree with most of the comments on here (ignoring the ones from our resident idiot). for me dunny has had his day and his mullah from rovers - he is not reliable enough for us and can only see him at a lower level. maybe a couple of seasons at pne? if he wants to stay at rovers - he should hang up his clogs and finish his coaching badges and help out off the field hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -2

11:26am Tue 10 Jun 14

Super_Clarets says...

Dunny puts in an average of 7 games a season at an estimated cost to Blackburn Rovers of over £187,000 per game.

Hilarious!
Dunny puts in an average of 7 games a season at an estimated cost to Blackburn Rovers of over £187,000 per game. Hilarious! Super_Clarets
  • Score: -65

11:27am Tue 10 Jun 14

marcusbrfc95 says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Dunny puts in an average of 7 games a season at an estimated cost to Blackburn Rovers of over £187,000 per game.

Hilarious!
You're obsessed, properly obsessed. Sat at home with your calculator, planning what to spend your benefits on...
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Dunny puts in an average of 7 games a season at an estimated cost to Blackburn Rovers of over £187,000 per game. Hilarious![/p][/quote]You're obsessed, properly obsessed. Sat at home with your calculator, planning what to spend your benefits on... marcusbrfc95
  • Score: 15

11:28am Tue 10 Jun 14

owd nick says...

Currently sat in an Italian restaurant having the best omelette ever,great cup of coffee so thought I would check in.
Usual drivel from the troll and pointless hatred from D D cup but also some great comments from true supporters who know what they are talking about.

Dunny might be past his best but clubs should repay loyalty with loyalty and I am pretty certain that both parties will come to the right agreement.

Dunny might not like the fact that his career as a player is nearing it's end but with the right approach he could be a valuable asset for us for years to come.

Think I will have another coffee before I hit the shops.
Currently sat in an Italian restaurant having the best omelette ever,great cup of coffee so thought I would check in. Usual drivel from the troll and pointless hatred from D D cup but also some great comments from true supporters who know what they are talking about. Dunny might be past his best but clubs should repay loyalty with loyalty and I am pretty certain that both parties will come to the right agreement. Dunny might not like the fact that his career as a player is nearing it's end but with the right approach he could be a valuable asset for us for years to come. Think I will have another coffee before I hit the shops. owd nick
  • Score: 2

11:30am Tue 10 Jun 14

marcusbrfc95 says...

owd nick wrote:
Currently sat in an Italian restaurant having the best omelette ever,great cup of coffee so thought I would check in.
Usual drivel from the troll and pointless hatred from D D cup but also some great comments from true supporters who know what they are talking about.

Dunny might be past his best but clubs should repay loyalty with loyalty and I am pretty certain that both parties will come to the right agreement.

Dunny might not like the fact that his career as a player is nearing it's end but with the right approach he could be a valuable asset for us for years to come.

Think I will have another coffee before I hit the shops.
He's deffo got at least one more season left in him, maybe two if we go up or if we don't and Burnley come down, he'll want to beat them one last time!
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Currently sat in an Italian restaurant having the best omelette ever,great cup of coffee so thought I would check in. Usual drivel from the troll and pointless hatred from D D cup but also some great comments from true supporters who know what they are talking about. Dunny might be past his best but clubs should repay loyalty with loyalty and I am pretty certain that both parties will come to the right agreement. Dunny might not like the fact that his career as a player is nearing it's end but with the right approach he could be a valuable asset for us for years to come. Think I will have another coffee before I hit the shops.[/p][/quote]He's deffo got at least one more season left in him, maybe two if we go up or if we don't and Burnley come down, he'll want to beat them one last time! marcusbrfc95
  • Score: 4

11:44am Tue 10 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

marcusbrfc95 wrote:
Super_Clarets wrote:
Dunny puts in an average of 7 games a season at an estimated cost to Blackburn Rovers of over £187,000 per game.

Hilarious!
You're obsessed, properly obsessed. Sat at home with your calculator, planning what to spend your benefits on...
And on top of that he is the nob head of the year 2014!!!
[quote][p][bold]marcusbrfc95[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Dunny puts in an average of 7 games a season at an estimated cost to Blackburn Rovers of over £187,000 per game. Hilarious![/p][/quote]You're obsessed, properly obsessed. Sat at home with your calculator, planning what to spend your benefits on...[/p][/quote]And on top of that he is the nob head of the year 2014!!! Old age pensioner
  • Score: 2

11:51am Tue 10 Jun 14

marcusbrfc95 says...

Old age pensioner wrote:
marcusbrfc95 wrote:
Super_Clarets wrote:
Dunny puts in an average of 7 games a season at an estimated cost to Blackburn Rovers of over £187,000 per game.

Hilarious!
You're obsessed, properly obsessed. Sat at home with your calculator, planning what to spend your benefits on...
And on top of that he is the nob head of the year 2014!!!
hahahahahahah, agreed, agreed!
[quote][p][bold]Old age pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marcusbrfc95[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Dunny puts in an average of 7 games a season at an estimated cost to Blackburn Rovers of over £187,000 per game. Hilarious![/p][/quote]You're obsessed, properly obsessed. Sat at home with your calculator, planning what to spend your benefits on...[/p][/quote]And on top of that he is the nob head of the year 2014!!![/p][/quote]hahahahahahah, agreed, agreed! marcusbrfc95
  • Score: 4

12:06pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Super_Clarets says...

More bad news for Rovers...

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/27
774092
More bad news for Rovers... http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 774092 Super_Clarets
  • Score: -27

12:09pm Tue 10 Jun 14

TurfMoorTom says...

The Championship is as much about desire and hunger to do well so if he can get his passion for the club in to the younger players he's well worth a deal. If he can be on a pay as you play deal so much the better.
The Championship is as much about desire and hunger to do well so if he can get his passion for the club in to the younger players he's well worth a deal. If he can be on a pay as you play deal so much the better. TurfMoorTom
  • Score: 4

12:21pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Fidel Castro says...

Can't we just ignore the infantile stalker and not keep reposting his/her bamal comments, let's just concentrate on the story. Still think Dunny can do a job as he has far more ability than almosty anyone else in this league. Probably comes down to finances though so he'll probably need to take a pay cut again. Great player though.
Can't we just ignore the infantile stalker and not keep reposting his/her bamal comments, let's just concentrate on the story. Still think Dunny can do a job as he has far more ability than almosty anyone else in this league. Probably comes down to finances though so he'll probably need to take a pay cut again. Great player though. Fidel Castro
  • Score: 9

12:29pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Warnie says...

The outlook is indeed looking bleak. FFP lets get ready to rumble.
The outlook is indeed looking bleak. FFP lets get ready to rumble. Warnie
  • Score: -5

12:37pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Super_Clarets says...

How very embarrassing....

http://www.rovers.co
.uk/news/article/see
ds-confirmed-for-cap
ital-one-cup-1628075
.aspx?
How very embarrassing.... http://www.rovers.co .uk/news/article/see ds-confirmed-for-cap ital-one-cup-1628075 .aspx? Super_Clarets
  • Score: -16

12:48pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Stretch_22 says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
How very embarrassing....

http://www.rovers.co

.uk/news/article/see

ds-confirmed-for-cap

ital-one-cup-1628075

.aspx?
Embarrassing for a Dingle to be caught on Rovers official site...
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: How very embarrassing.... http://www.rovers.co .uk/news/article/see ds-confirmed-for-cap ital-one-cup-1628075 .aspx?[/p][/quote]Embarrassing for a Dingle to be caught on Rovers official site... Stretch_22
  • Score: 11

12:54pm Tue 10 Jun 14

cedar67 says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
How very embarrassing.... http://www.rovers.co .uk/news/article/see ds-confirmed-for-cap ital-one-cup-1628075 .aspx?
You really are obsessed.

You don't realise it but the joke is actually on you. Hilarious !
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: How very embarrassing.... http://www.rovers.co .uk/news/article/see ds-confirmed-for-cap ital-one-cup-1628075 .aspx?[/p][/quote]You really are obsessed. You don't realise it but the joke is actually on you. Hilarious ! cedar67
  • Score: 8

12:54pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
More bad news for Rovers...

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/27

774092
NH
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: More bad news for Rovers... http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 774092[/p][/quote]NH Old age pensioner
  • Score: 0

12:57pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jim 2012 says...

claret777 wrote:
Of course he wants to stay.....nobody else wants him plus he's on a decent wage.....shame he can't last 90 minutes...he must live with costing you the 30 odd year thing for the rest of his life.
I know some of you dingles like to sound off about rovers
but please read the article before you post your rubbish
he is free to talk to other clubs and it is understood there has been interest from outfits lower down the Football League
3out of 10
must try harder
[quote][p][bold]claret777[/bold] wrote: Of course he wants to stay.....nobody else wants him plus he's on a decent wage.....shame he can't last 90 minutes...he must live with costing you the 30 odd year thing for the rest of his life.[/p][/quote]I know some of you dingles like to sound off about rovers but please read the article before you post your rubbish he is free to talk to other clubs and it is understood there has been interest from outfits lower down the Football League 3out of 10 must try harder jim 2012
  • Score: 1

1:09pm Tue 10 Jun 14

theswayzeexpress says...

Fidel Castro wrote:
Can't we just ignore the infantile stalker and not keep reposting his/her bamal comments, let's just concentrate on the story. Still think Dunny can do a job as he has far more ability than almosty anyone else in this league. Probably comes down to finances though so he'll probably need to take a pay cut again. Great player though.
Agreed. Ignore a wasp and it'll fly away.
[quote][p][bold]Fidel Castro[/bold] wrote: Can't we just ignore the infantile stalker and not keep reposting his/her bamal comments, let's just concentrate on the story. Still think Dunny can do a job as he has far more ability than almosty anyone else in this league. Probably comes down to finances though so he'll probably need to take a pay cut again. Great player though.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Ignore a wasp and it'll fly away. theswayzeexpress
  • Score: 9

1:22pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Super_Clarets says...

Stretch_Yourself

It's called NewsNow, and it covers all the Championship clubs. I have to click on PREMIER LEAGUE to see the news regarding my team.
Stretch_Yourself It's called NewsNow, and it covers all the Championship clubs. I have to click on PREMIER LEAGUE to see the news regarding my team. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -27

1:25pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Super_Clarets says...

Jokes on you clowns.
Jokes on you clowns. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -96

1:52pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Jokes on you clowns.
NH 2014
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Jokes on you clowns.[/p][/quote]NH 2014 Old age pensioner
  • Score: 11

1:54pm Tue 10 Jun 14

noddy57 says...

why is your obsession with our great club so intense ? every Blackburn supporter who knows his football also knows you Burnley fans have admired our club for generations but you are too embarrassed to come out and say it.So l will say it for you `there is only room for one great club in east Lancashire and every body knows its BLACKBURN ROVERS.we just happen to be rebuilding at the minute preparing to regain our rightful place-while you prepare to fight relegation.COYB
why is your obsession with our great club so intense ? every Blackburn supporter who knows his football also knows you Burnley fans have admired our club for generations but you are too embarrassed to come out and say it.So l will say it for you `there is only room for one great club in east Lancashire and every body knows its BLACKBURN ROVERS.we just happen to be rebuilding at the minute preparing to regain our rightful place-while you prepare to fight relegation.COYB noddy57
  • Score: 10

1:55pm Tue 10 Jun 14

wolsty says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate.

What a shambles.
That reminds me as Ings signed a new contract yet??????????? just asking you seem to know more than Sky Sports
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]That reminds me as Ings signed a new contract yet??????????? just asking you seem to know more than Sky Sports wolsty
  • Score: 9

2:17pm Tue 10 Jun 14

inflightmagazine says...

The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such.

If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort inflightmagazine
  • Score: 0

2:24pm Tue 10 Jun 14

J.C - Rishton says...

Dunny - great bloke, great servant to the club and great talent but he has had his day.

Also, why should he become a coach at the club - Is there an available coaching vacancy or does he just automatically get a job for life because he's a local lad who's been a great servant to the club?

I don't want to sound harsh but that is NO WAY to run a professional sports club, especially one thats losing up to £500,000 per month and will have to shortly comply within strict financial boundaries (and should be looking to reduce its lossess anyway as these “telephone number” figures are completely unsustainable).

We will eventually be able to comply by REDUCING (massively) our wage bill not by increasing it.

By his own reckoning he will be fit to play only 50% of matches so that probably means 25% in reality and pay or play deal or not we HAVE to start making hard financial decisions NOW.

Who would rather re-sign Dunny and Ollson now and then have to sell either Cairney, Conway or Gestede in Jan ?? - if we don't start making tough choices now then we will be FORCED to take them in a few months. And if that happens then these good players will be taken off us for peanuts! (how many Rovers fans have a blind spot where FFP is concerned???????. I really think that in a few months, when reality bites, many Rovers fans on this site are going to get a horrible horrible shock at what the club can or cannot do and how many of its better players leave for not much money).

I despair that GB could seriously want to re-sign either under our difficult financial situation.

For all those Rovers fans clamouring for Dunny to return, ask yourselves this - how many of our so called "promotion rivals" for next season (Derby, Wigan, Norwich, Fulham, Forest etc) would be interested in signing either Dunny or Ollson - I would guess at precisely NONE - surely we must try to use the small amount of money/squad space we have available to find one or 2 players like Cairney, Evans, Gestade or Conway who will really add something to the 1st team, now just be a fringe player who adds very little over the course of a 46 game season.

Only a few short years ago many on here bragged that we were “the best run club in the country” – now these same people say “It don’t matter that we are £60m in debt, losing up to £500,000 per week and could well be put into a transfer embargo within 6 months” – of course it matters and we won’t solve our financial problems by just selling Best and the other transfer listed 5, people like Dunny and Ollson must not be re-signed – and that’s just for starters, more 1st teamers will have to be culled (remember that we need to sign a centre half and right back just to balance the squad).
Dunny - great bloke, great servant to the club and great talent but he has had his day. Also, why should he become a coach at the club - Is there an available coaching vacancy or does he just automatically get a job for life because he's a local lad who's been a great servant to the club? I don't want to sound harsh but that is NO WAY to run a professional sports club, especially one thats losing up to £500,000 per month and will have to shortly comply within strict financial boundaries (and should be looking to reduce its lossess anyway as these “telephone number” figures are completely unsustainable). We will eventually be able to comply by REDUCING (massively) our wage bill not by increasing it. By his own reckoning he will be fit to play only 50% of matches so that probably means 25% in reality and pay or play deal or not we HAVE to start making hard financial decisions NOW. Who would rather re-sign Dunny and Ollson now and then have to sell either Cairney, Conway or Gestede in Jan ?? - if we don't start making tough choices now then we will be FORCED to take them in a few months. And if that happens then these good players will be taken off us for peanuts! (how many Rovers fans have a blind spot where FFP is concerned???????. I really think that in a few months, when reality bites, many Rovers fans on this site are going to get a horrible horrible shock at what the club can or cannot do and how many of its better players leave for not much money). I despair that GB could seriously want to re-sign either under our difficult financial situation. For all those Rovers fans clamouring for Dunny to return, ask yourselves this - how many of our so called "promotion rivals" for next season (Derby, Wigan, Norwich, Fulham, Forest etc) would be interested in signing either Dunny or Ollson - I would guess at precisely NONE - surely we must try to use the small amount of money/squad space we have available to find one or 2 players like Cairney, Evans, Gestade or Conway who will really add something to the 1st team, now just be a fringe player who adds very little over the course of a 46 game season. Only a few short years ago many on here bragged that we were “the best run club in the country” – now these same people say “It don’t matter that we are £60m in debt, losing up to £500,000 per week and could well be put into a transfer embargo within 6 months” – of course it matters and we won’t solve our financial problems by just selling Best and the other transfer listed 5, people like Dunny and Ollson must not be re-signed – and that’s just for starters, more 1st teamers will have to be culled (remember that we need to sign a centre half and right back just to balance the squad). J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 5

2:35pm Tue 10 Jun 14

kenbro says...

With the pay that he has been on at Ewood, the Rovers have paid him several millions. He is now only fit for half a game in half the matches.
If he really has the club at heart he will take a one year, low pay contract or a pay as you play contract.
He should be very well off financially by now. The club isn't. Time for him to put the Rovers needs first. They have treated him very well for a lot of years.
With the pay that he has been on at Ewood, the Rovers have paid him several millions. He is now only fit for half a game in half the matches. If he really has the club at heart he will take a one year, low pay contract or a pay as you play contract. He should be very well off financially by now. The club isn't. Time for him to put the Rovers needs first. They have treated him very well for a lot of years. kenbro
  • Score: 10

2:46pm Tue 10 Jun 14

J.C - Rishton says...

inflightmagazine wrote:
The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such.

If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it.

1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ?

Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says.

2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts.

3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league.
The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them.

So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).
[quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort[/p][/quote]I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY). J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 6

3:00pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Stretch_22 says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Stretch_Yourself

It's called NewsNow, and it covers all the Championship clubs. I have to click on PREMIER LEAGUE to see the news regarding my team.
Since your team is now 'Premier League' (laughing hysterically!), why are you on sites regarding Championship clubs?

It might look to others like your obsessed with Rovers :-)
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Stretch_Yourself It's called NewsNow, and it covers all the Championship clubs. I have to click on PREMIER LEAGUE to see the news regarding my team.[/p][/quote]Since your team is now 'Premier League' (laughing hysterically!), why are you on sites regarding Championship clubs? It might look to others like your obsessed with Rovers :-) Stretch_22
  • Score: 12

3:13pm Tue 10 Jun 14

inflightmagazine says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such.

If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it.

1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ?

Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says.

2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts.

3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league.
The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them.

So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).
All of which would make sense was it not for the fact that the premier league pays solidarity payments to the Championship. The Premier League has stated it does not agree with the structure of the system that is in place and it is not sustainable.

The premier league holds all the Purse strings for football in this country, hence the FAs inability to make any changes to the development of english players.

The premier league statement on the QPR situation is clear you ve got it wrong and you need to change it. The FL will change it has no choice
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort[/p][/quote]I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).[/p][/quote]All of which would make sense was it not for the fact that the premier league pays solidarity payments to the Championship. The Premier League has stated it does not agree with the structure of the system that is in place and it is not sustainable. The premier league holds all the Purse strings for football in this country, hence the FAs inability to make any changes to the development of english players. The premier league statement on the QPR situation is clear you ve got it wrong and you need to change it. The FL will change it has no choice inflightmagazine
  • Score: 2

3:15pm Tue 10 Jun 14

look.up.blackburn. says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such.

If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it.

1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ?

Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says.

2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts.

3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league.
The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them.

So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).
Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC.

Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves.

FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real.

Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years.

As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort[/p][/quote]I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).[/p][/quote]Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC. Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves. FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real. Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years. As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club. look.up.blackburn.
  • Score: -9

3:51pm Tue 10 Jun 14

baldie says...

look.up.blackburn. wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such.

If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it.

1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ?

Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says.

2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts.

3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league.
The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them.

So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).
Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC.

Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves.

FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real.

Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years.

As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.
Could you let us know your information regarding Venkys unwillingness to treat the situation with the respect it deserves,ie conversations and figures.
Regarding the ban,you say it will cripple the club for YEARS.Can you let us know how many years,as the ban would only be in place as long as the club cannot comply. I'm just wondering how far Rovers have got into sorting the problem out,or not.
Could you let us know,i'm sure everyone is interested,who the infighting is between.
Also,nobody seems to know if the ban would include loans,and/or free agents.I'm sure you know,or know someone at the club who does.
If you could put some meat on the bones,it would be much appreciated.
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort[/p][/quote]I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).[/p][/quote]Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC. Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves. FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real. Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years. As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.[/p][/quote]Could you let us know your information regarding Venkys unwillingness to treat the situation with the respect it deserves,ie conversations and figures. Regarding the ban,you say it will cripple the club for YEARS.Can you let us know how many years,as the ban would only be in place as long as the club cannot comply. I'm just wondering how far Rovers have got into sorting the problem out,or not. Could you let us know,i'm sure everyone is interested,who the infighting is between. Also,nobody seems to know if the ban would include loans,and/or free agents.I'm sure you know,or know someone at the club who does. If you could put some meat on the bones,it would be much appreciated. baldie
  • Score: 3

4:17pm Tue 10 Jun 14

owd nick says...

look.up.blackburn. wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such.

If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it.

1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ?

Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says.

2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts.

3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league.
The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them.

So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).
Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC.

Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves.

FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real.

Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years.

As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.
MANCHESTER CITY DID NOT ACCEPT A £49 MILLION FINE.

They negotiated an £11 or £12 million fine and a restriction on the number of players they can have in their squad in UEFA competition, from 25 to 21 I believe.

The agreement is based on the proviso that City do not transgress in future seasons.

Therefore the precedent has now been set.

ALL clubs, large or small, are entitled to challenge any rulings made by whichever ruling body, so I am quite certain that Rovers or any of the other clubs affected will consider their options as and when the rulings are made.

From what I understand no club can be penalised on the 2012-13 season figures, it's the 2013-2014 figures that matter, I don't think I have seen them yet, suffice to say, Rovers removed a significant amount of cost last season, it may not be enough in the great scheme of things, Rovers have said as much themselves, but it won't be anywhere near the historical (or shall I say hysterical) figures often quoted on here.

Debt is not an issue, it's the difference between income and outgoings for the year that matters.

All this speculation is in fact total ****, we fans are on the outside looking in and until or even if any penalties are incurred that's all it is, speculation.
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort[/p][/quote]I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).[/p][/quote]Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC. Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves. FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real. Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years. As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.[/p][/quote]MANCHESTER CITY DID NOT ACCEPT A £49 MILLION FINE. They negotiated an £11 or £12 million fine and a restriction on the number of players they can have in their squad in UEFA competition, from 25 to 21 I believe. The agreement is based on the proviso that City do not transgress in future seasons. Therefore the precedent has now been set. ALL clubs, large or small, are entitled to challenge any rulings made by whichever ruling body, so I am quite certain that Rovers or any of the other clubs affected will consider their options as and when the rulings are made. From what I understand no club can be penalised on the 2012-13 season figures, it's the 2013-2014 figures that matter, I don't think I have seen them yet, suffice to say, Rovers removed a significant amount of cost last season, it may not be enough in the great scheme of things, Rovers have said as much themselves, but it won't be anywhere near the historical (or shall I say hysterical) figures often quoted on here. Debt is not an issue, it's the difference between income and outgoings for the year that matters. All this speculation is in fact total ****, we fans are on the outside looking in and until or even if any penalties are incurred that's all it is, speculation. owd nick
  • Score: 12

4:21pm Tue 10 Jun 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

Stretch_22 wrote:
Super_Clarets wrote:
Stretch_Yourself

It's called NewsNow, and it covers all the Championship clubs. I have to click on PREMIER LEAGUE to see the news regarding my team.
Since your team is now 'Premier League' (laughing hysterically!), why are you on sites regarding Championship clubs?

It might look to others like your obsessed with Rovers :-)
Form is temporary, class (lack of it in this case) is permanent. Bonleh in the Premier League is like mutton dressed as lamb and the fact this d*ckhead is still on here 24/7 proves that beyond doubt.
[quote][p][bold]Stretch_22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Stretch_Yourself It's called NewsNow, and it covers all the Championship clubs. I have to click on PREMIER LEAGUE to see the news regarding my team.[/p][/quote]Since your team is now 'Premier League' (laughing hysterically!), why are you on sites regarding Championship clubs? It might look to others like your obsessed with Rovers :-)[/p][/quote]Form is temporary, class (lack of it in this case) is permanent. Bonleh in the Premier League is like mutton dressed as lamb and the fact this d*ckhead is still on here 24/7 proves that beyond doubt. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 16

4:24pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Steven Seagull says...

jinkyjase wrote:
Super_Clarets wrote:
Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate.

What a shambles.
ScruffyClaret

If, however unlikely, BRFC folded as a club tomorrow, we will gladly take with us the memory of ticker tape trophy parades, games against European opposition and witnessing some of the finest players in World football gracing Ewood Park. Not an open top bus parade for coming second.

Enjoy your single season caught in the headlights.
Witnessing games against European opposition?
Do you mean those part time Swedish plumbers who showed you up for what you were / are?

Oh yeah, golden memories those.
[quote][p][bold]jinkyjase[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]ScruffyClaret If, however unlikely, BRFC folded as a club tomorrow, we will gladly take with us the memory of ticker tape trophy parades, games against European opposition and witnessing some of the finest players in World football gracing Ewood Park. Not an open top bus parade for coming second. Enjoy your single season caught in the headlights.[/p][/quote]Witnessing games against European opposition? Do you mean those part time Swedish plumbers who showed you up for what you were / are? Oh yeah, golden memories those. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -5

4:29pm Tue 10 Jun 14

cedar67 says...

baldie wrote:
look.up.blackburn. wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).
Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC. Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves. FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real. Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years. As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.
Could you let us know your information regarding Venkys unwillingness to treat the situation with the respect it deserves,ie conversations and figures. Regarding the ban,you say it will cripple the club for YEARS.Can you let us know how many years,as the ban would only be in place as long as the club cannot comply. I'm just wondering how far Rovers have got into sorting the problem out,or not. Could you let us know,i'm sure everyone is interested,who the infighting is between. Also,nobody seems to know if the ban would include loans,and/or free agents.I'm sure you know,or know someone at the club who does. If you could put some meat on the bones,it would be much appreciated.
Ask Super Clarets, he knows everything about Rovers.
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort[/p][/quote]I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).[/p][/quote]Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC. Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves. FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real. Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years. As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.[/p][/quote]Could you let us know your information regarding Venkys unwillingness to treat the situation with the respect it deserves,ie conversations and figures. Regarding the ban,you say it will cripple the club for YEARS.Can you let us know how many years,as the ban would only be in place as long as the club cannot comply. I'm just wondering how far Rovers have got into sorting the problem out,or not. Could you let us know,i'm sure everyone is interested,who the infighting is between. Also,nobody seems to know if the ban would include loans,and/or free agents.I'm sure you know,or know someone at the club who does. If you could put some meat on the bones,it would be much appreciated.[/p][/quote]Ask Super Clarets, he knows everything about Rovers. cedar67
  • Score: 6

5:52pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Welsh Rover says...

Off-topic but has anyone heard anything about when this season's strip will go on sale? Also, was the shirt sponsorship with RFS just for last season?
Off-topic but has anyone heard anything about when this season's strip will go on sale? Also, was the shirt sponsorship with RFS just for last season? Welsh Rover
  • Score: 6

6:29pm Tue 10 Jun 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

Welsh Rover wrote:
Off-topic but has anyone heard anything about when this season's strip will go on sale? Also, was the shirt sponsorship with RFS just for last season?
Hi Welshy, due to FFP we're playing in skins next year with "what a shambles" written across the players chest in marker pen.... apparently.
[quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Off-topic but has anyone heard anything about when this season's strip will go on sale? Also, was the shirt sponsorship with RFS just for last season?[/p][/quote]Hi Welshy, due to FFP we're playing in skins next year with "what a shambles" written across the players chest in marker pen.... apparently. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 4

6:35pm Tue 10 Jun 14

MattNewcastle says...

owd nick wrote:
Currently sat in an Italian restaurant having the best omelette ever,great cup of coffee so thought I would check in. Usual drivel from the troll and pointless hatred from D D cup but also some great comments from true supporters who know what they are talking about. Dunny might be past his best but clubs should repay loyalty with loyalty and I am pretty certain that both parties will come to the right agreement. Dunny might not like the fact that his career as a player is nearing it's end but with the right approach he could be a valuable asset for us for years to come. Think I will have another coffee before I hit the shops.
I belive we have repaid DD loyalty.

I would suggest any monies earmarked fir DD and Olsson should be put to better use.

This is not a pre season for sentimentality with limited funds available.

DD has had occasional haves of goid football for he cannot last a while game but many a game where quite frankly the game has passed him by.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Currently sat in an Italian restaurant having the best omelette ever,great cup of coffee so thought I would check in. Usual drivel from the troll and pointless hatred from D D cup but also some great comments from true supporters who know what they are talking about. Dunny might be past his best but clubs should repay loyalty with loyalty and I am pretty certain that both parties will come to the right agreement. Dunny might not like the fact that his career as a player is nearing it's end but with the right approach he could be a valuable asset for us for years to come. Think I will have another coffee before I hit the shops.[/p][/quote]I belive we have repaid DD loyalty. I would suggest any monies earmarked fir DD and Olsson should be put to better use. This is not a pre season for sentimentality with limited funds available. DD has had occasional haves of goid football for he cannot last a while game but many a game where quite frankly the game has passed him by. MattNewcastle
  • Score: 0

7:00pm Tue 10 Jun 14

bluenwhite says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Poor old Dunny, he wanted to retire being able to say he was never on the losing side to Burnley, what a shame then that we tubbed you at Ewood. Will never forget him sobbing on the touchline at full time, a memory that will last through the ages. David Dunn 1 - 2 Burnley.
ha ha ha
tubbed is 5-0 mate
2-1 is scraped.
will never forget your as thick as a plank either :-)
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Poor old Dunny, he wanted to retire being able to say he was never on the losing side to Burnley, what a shame then that we tubbed you at Ewood. Will never forget him sobbing on the touchline at full time, a memory that will last through the ages. David Dunn 1 - 2 Burnley.[/p][/quote]ha ha ha tubbed is 5-0 mate 2-1 is scraped. will never forget your as thick as a plank either :-) bluenwhite
  • Score: 5

7:32pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Richard Oakley says...

You are correct owd_nick man City has not accepted a fine of £49m. Uefa issued a statement saying what Man City has agreed to. Man City has not issued a statement to that effect or any effect. Paris St. Germain have delivered UEFA a two-fingered salute

Deloitte's have issued their summary of football in the Premier and Championship Leagues The average Premier League club made £18m loss in 2013/14. Championship Clubs lost an average of £10m and wages wee 106% of turnover first time they'd exceeded 100% in 12 years.

@baldie it is not speculation that Blackburn Rovers will be affected by FFP. Blackburn Rovers FC Managing Director has stated that as things currently stand the Club will not in compliance with the FFP rules as they stand for 2013/14. Any transfer ban would last until the first January transfer window after a full set of annual accounts in compliance with FFP rules. Projections for future years filed with the 2013/14 accounts will provide an indication as to when the club will be in compliance.
You are correct owd_nick man City has not accepted a fine of £49m. Uefa issued a statement saying what Man City has agreed to. Man City has not issued a statement to that effect or any effect. Paris St. Germain have delivered UEFA a two-fingered salute Deloitte's have issued their summary of football in the Premier and Championship Leagues The average Premier League club made £18m loss in 2013/14. Championship Clubs lost an average of £10m and wages wee 106% of turnover first time they'd exceeded 100% in 12 years. @baldie it is not speculation that Blackburn Rovers will be affected by FFP. Blackburn Rovers FC Managing Director has stated that as things currently stand the Club will not in compliance with the FFP rules as they stand for 2013/14. Any transfer ban would last until the first January transfer window after a full set of annual accounts in compliance with FFP rules. Projections for future years filed with the 2013/14 accounts will provide an indication as to when the club will be in compliance. Richard Oakley
  • Score: 3

7:52pm Tue 10 Jun 14

French Rover says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
disagree with most of the comments on here (ignoring the ones from our resident idiot).

for me dunny has had his day and his mullah from rovers - he is not reliable enough for us and can only see him at a lower level. maybe a couple of seasons at pne?

if he wants to stay at rovers - he should hang up his clogs and finish his coaching badges and help out off the field
Yours is not a popular view on here Hass - but when has that bothered you eh! I agree with you though, as your comments are the only ones based on any sense of reality. Dunny as a player is Dunn with us now.

I always rated Dunny and loved his all consuming passion for all things Rovers - but last season was his swan song for as a player at the Rovers. I think he can still be valuable to us doing a job on the coaching team but forget him ever playing for us again.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: disagree with most of the comments on here (ignoring the ones from our resident idiot). for me dunny has had his day and his mullah from rovers - he is not reliable enough for us and can only see him at a lower level. maybe a couple of seasons at pne? if he wants to stay at rovers - he should hang up his clogs and finish his coaching badges and help out off the field[/p][/quote]Yours is not a popular view on here Hass - but when has that bothered you eh! I agree with you though, as your comments are the only ones based on any sense of reality. Dunny as a player is Dunn with us now. I always rated Dunny and loved his all consuming passion for all things Rovers - but last season was his swan song for as a player at the Rovers. I think he can still be valuable to us doing a job on the coaching team but forget him ever playing for us again. French Rover
  • Score: 0

9:08pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Welsh Rover says...

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Off-topic but has anyone heard anything about when this season's strip will go on sale? Also, was the shirt sponsorship with RFS just for last season?
Hi Welshy, due to FFP we're playing in skins next year with "what a shambles" written across the players chest in marker pen.... apparently.
Hahahahahahahaha...

I assume the players are responsible for getting their own names and numbers tattooed on their backs too?
[quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Off-topic but has anyone heard anything about when this season's strip will go on sale? Also, was the shirt sponsorship with RFS just for last season?[/p][/quote]Hi Welshy, due to FFP we're playing in skins next year with "what a shambles" written across the players chest in marker pen.... apparently.[/p][/quote]Hahahahahahahaha... I assume the players are responsible for getting their own names and numbers tattooed on their backs too? Welsh Rover
  • Score: 5

11:40pm Tue 10 Jun 14

keanoutofrovers says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate.

What a shambles.
Moron:

Moron , disused term for a person with a mental age between 8 and 12
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Sign him up, another season on £25k should just about seal your fate. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]Moron: Moron , disused term for a person with a mental age between 8 and 12 keanoutofrovers
  • Score: 4

11:56pm Tue 10 Jun 14

roverstid says...

owd nick wrote:
look.up.blackburn. wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such.

If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it.

1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ?

Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says.

2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts.

3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league.
The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them.

So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).
Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC.

Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves.

FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real.

Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years.

As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.
MANCHESTER CITY DID NOT ACCEPT A £49 MILLION FINE.

They negotiated an £11 or £12 million fine and a restriction on the number of players they can have in their squad in UEFA competition, from 25 to 21 I believe.

The agreement is based on the proviso that City do not transgress in future seasons.

Therefore the precedent has now been set.

ALL clubs, large or small, are entitled to challenge any rulings made by whichever ruling body, so I am quite certain that Rovers or any of the other clubs affected will consider their options as and when the rulings are made.

From what I understand no club can be penalised on the 2012-13 season figures, it's the 2013-2014 figures that matter, I don't think I have seen them yet, suffice to say, Rovers removed a significant amount of cost last season, it may not be enough in the great scheme of things, Rovers have said as much themselves, but it won't be anywhere near the historical (or shall I say hysterical) figures often quoted on here.

Debt is not an issue, it's the difference between income and outgoings for the year that matters.

All this speculation is in fact total ****, we fans are on the outside looking in and until or even if any penalties are incurred that's all it is, speculation.
Great arguments from both sides - refreshing to read some intelligent thoughts for once on FFP than the usual troll hysteria.

Dunny as said above has done his bit and been paid well. I agree with J C we don't need to take him on as a coach unless theres a vacancy and even then zi'd want to know he's getting the job because we think its in the interest of the club and not sentimental misguided loyalties or jobs for the boys - we simply cannot afford it.

With regards to FFP, J C raised some good points but I'm with Nick that ultimately the PL holds all the cards and we are simply guessing/hoping for the best or fearing the worst. My own thoughts are the FL are in a quandary now that they have set the rules down and have to make them work without blowing quite a few clubs out of the water which they simply can't afford to do. FFP needs to be shown to be in the long term interest for security purposes for clubs and the FL. It cannot achieve that trying to enforce rules that will almost certainly affect near enough half the clubs in the Championship this season including the ones coming down.

Expect a lot of political posturing and back peddling from the oft next season, but that said - given that clubs have been given ample time to comply with FFP, we must and have to act responsibly to cut costs to try and comply regardless of whether the rules are enforced in January or not.

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[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort[/p][/quote]I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).[/p][/quote]Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC. Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves. FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real. Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years. As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.[/p][/quote]MANCHESTER CITY DID NOT ACCEPT A £49 MILLION FINE. They negotiated an £11 or £12 million fine and a restriction on the number of players they can have in their squad in UEFA competition, from 25 to 21 I believe. The agreement is based on the proviso that City do not transgress in future seasons. Therefore the precedent has now been set. ALL clubs, large or small, are entitled to challenge any rulings made by whichever ruling body, so I am quite certain that Rovers or any of the other clubs affected will consider their options as and when the rulings are made. From what I understand no club can be penalised on the 2012-13 season figures, it's the 2013-2014 figures that matter, I don't think I have seen them yet, suffice to say, Rovers removed a significant amount of cost last season, it may not be enough in the great scheme of things, Rovers have said as much themselves, but it won't be anywhere near the historical (or shall I say hysterical) figures often quoted on here. Debt is not an issue, it's the difference between income and outgoings for the year that matters. All this speculation is in fact total ****, we fans are on the outside looking in and until or even if any penalties are incurred that's all it is, speculation.[/p][/quote]Great arguments from both sides - refreshing to read some intelligent thoughts for once on FFP than the usual troll hysteria. Dunny as said above has done his bit and been paid well. I agree with J C we don't need to take him on as a coach unless theres a vacancy and even then zi'd want to know he's getting the job because we think its in the interest of the club and not sentimental misguided loyalties or jobs for the boys - we simply cannot afford it. With regards to FFP, J C raised some good points but I'm with Nick that ultimately the PL holds all the cards and we are simply guessing/hoping for the best or fearing the worst. My own thoughts are the FL are in a quandary now that they have set the rules down and have to make them work without blowing quite a few clubs out of the water which they simply can't afford to do. FFP needs to be shown to be in the long term interest for security purposes for clubs and the FL. It cannot achieve that trying to enforce rules that will almost certainly affect near enough half the clubs in the Championship this season including the ones coming down. Expect a lot of political posturing and back peddling from the oft next season, but that said - given that clubs have been given ample time to comply with FFP, we must and have to act responsibly to cut costs to try and comply regardless of whether the rules are enforced in January or not. 20 roverstid
  • Score: 1

8:04am Wed 11 Jun 14

Rovers 1495 says...

Goodwillie on the move ?

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Goodwillie on the move ? http://www.eveningti mes.co.uk/rangers/ra ngers-set-to-move-fo r-former-target-good willie-166846n.24457 827? Rovers 1495
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8:36am Wed 11 Jun 14

look.up.blackburn. says...

owd nick wrote:
look.up.blackburn. wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such.

If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort
I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it.

1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ?

Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says.

2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts.

3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league.
The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them.

So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).
Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC.

Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves.

FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real.

Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years.

As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.
MANCHESTER CITY DID NOT ACCEPT A £49 MILLION FINE.

They negotiated an £11 or £12 million fine and a restriction on the number of players they can have in their squad in UEFA competition, from 25 to 21 I believe.

The agreement is based on the proviso that City do not transgress in future seasons.

Therefore the precedent has now been set.

ALL clubs, large or small, are entitled to challenge any rulings made by whichever ruling body, so I am quite certain that Rovers or any of the other clubs affected will consider their options as and when the rulings are made.

From what I understand no club can be penalised on the 2012-13 season figures, it's the 2013-2014 figures that matter, I don't think I have seen them yet, suffice to say, Rovers removed a significant amount of cost last season, it may not be enough in the great scheme of things, Rovers have said as much themselves, but it won't be anywhere near the historical (or shall I say hysterical) figures often quoted on here.

Debt is not an issue, it's the difference between income and outgoings for the year that matters.

All this speculation is in fact total ****, we fans are on the outside looking in and until or even if any penalties are incurred that's all it is, speculation.
"Manchester City accept €60m fine and transfer cap from Uefa over FFP.

Manchester City have reluctantly accepted a conditional €60m fine and restrictions on their European squad and incoming transfers under Uefa's new financial fair play regime.

The sanctions will limit Manuel Pellegrini's options when it comes to naming his 21-man European squad, cut from the usual 25, of which eight must qualify as "homegrown".

If they comply with those conditions, they will get back €40m of the €60m fine, which will be deducted from their Uefa prize money over the next three years."

http://www.theguardi
an.com/football/2014
/may/16/manchester-c
ity-fine-transfer-ca
p-uefa-ffp


So there you go no-dads. Manchester City HAVE accepted the sanctions and therefore MUST make the necessary adjustments to fall in line with the rules.

This means that Mickey Mouse clubs likes yourselves have got no chance. You WILL have to accept your punishment and you WILL have to restructure your finances in line with the rules, which state a maximum loss of no more than £3m.

Oh dear.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: The Premier League head Richard Scudamore has publicly stated that he believes the Championship FFP rules are ‘unsustainable’. Scudamore’s comments were made in March when the proposed rule-changes were first being discussed; they appear to have been designed at appeal to the clubs near the relegation-zone rather than attempt to influence the voting. However, one can’t help but feel that the rules are more likely to be truly ‘unsustainable’ if the powerful PL Head describes them as such. If the situation wasn’t bad enough, the BBC recently reported that the Premier League will now not even help the Football League collect the Fair Play Tax. Rather than deduct the funds from the TV payments, it seems the Football League will be required to send QPR and Leicester a bill and simply hope that they pay-up. Although QPR will probably end up with a bill for around £30m-£35m, owner Tony Fernandes told the Guardian; “Will we fight the fine? What do you think? After all we’ve been through, it’s my middle name: ‘Fight it’ Fernandes”. It seems that the Football League will now have to embark on a costly legal battle to collect the ‘Tax’ – and all so that they can pay it over to charity (at the insistence of the Premier League). It remains to be seen whether the Football League feel it is worth the effort[/p][/quote]I don't know whether FFP will be introduced or not but I think your piece has a few errors in it. 1 - Richard Scudamore has NOTHING to do with the FL - the PL is introducing a FFP as is UEFA competitions so why not the FL ? Also the football league is a DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION and its own members VOTED for FFP implementation (overwelmingly) - so why would it not be then introduced ? Also if Scudamore is not going to help the FL by collecting fines on their behalf then it would be human nature for them to take the hump with him and do the opposite of what he says. 2 - UEFA have already introduced their own FFP and all these massive, influential clubs have agreed to abide by those rules and the clubs that have failed to comply have all accepted their punishments - NONE are trying to go through the courts. 3 - As for QPR not paying their fine - no problem, until the next time they get relegated from the PL and the football league REFUSES to accept them - remember NO club has a LEGAL RIGHT to join the football league. The Football League is just a group of clubs that agree to abide by certain rules and regulations and then play football within a set league structure - it has no FORMAL (legal) STRUCTURE. That is why occasionaly a club is not allowed up from the conference because their ground is not upto scratch - that club cannot go through the courts to make the FL accept them. So, I think you'll find QPR paying any outstanding fines PDQ or facing the prospect of folding or playing in the conference as the PL wouldnt allow them to stay and play there and obviously the football league would not allow it to play if it had refused to pay millions in fines that it had previously agreed to abide to (ie by playing in the FL in the past season QPR has by proxy agreed to abide by the FL rules which have all been voted on by the member clubs, ie DEMOCATICALLY).[/p][/quote]Well said that man, at last a Blackburn Rovers fan with a measure of intelligence who actually understands the implications of Financial Fair Play and it's potential impact on BRFC. Some of those who refuse to acknowledge the forthcoming sanctions are living in a dream world, a transfer embargo would be a complete disaster for Blackburn Rovers and I for one find it utterly astounding that the Venky's are either unaware or unwilling to treat this massive threat with the respect it deserves. FFP is not a joke, it will cripple a club which is making such massive losses for YEARS. There is no short cut, there is no way around it, there is no legal loophole to exploit. As the learned gentleman above states, if a club the size and stature of Manchester City accepts a £49million fine without question then this is for real. Blackburn Rovers have to make the necessary adjustments ASAP because any further delay in reducing the wage bill and cutting costs by many millions of pounds will bring about years of misery for an already struggling club that is by all accounts rotten to the core with infighting, mismanagement and ridiculous agents fee's paid over the last few years. As much as you don't want to believe it, this could be the beginning of the end for Blackburn Rovers as a viable football club.[/p][/quote]MANCHESTER CITY DID NOT ACCEPT A £49 MILLION FINE. They negotiated an £11 or £12 million fine and a restriction on the number of players they can have in their squad in UEFA competition, from 25 to 21 I believe. The agreement is based on the proviso that City do not transgress in future seasons. Therefore the precedent has now been set. ALL clubs, large or small, are entitled to challenge any rulings made by whichever ruling body, so I am quite certain that Rovers or any of the other clubs affected will consider their options as and when the rulings are made. From what I understand no club can be penalised on the 2012-13 season figures, it's the 2013-2014 figures that matter, I don't think I have seen them yet, suffice to say, Rovers removed a significant amount of cost last season, it may not be enough in the great scheme of things, Rovers have said as much themselves, but it won't be anywhere near the historical (or shall I say hysterical) figures often quoted on here. Debt is not an issue, it's the difference between income and outgoings for the year that matters. All this speculation is in fact total ****, we fans are on the outside looking in and until or even if any penalties are incurred that's all it is, speculation.[/p][/quote]"Manchester City accept €60m fine and transfer cap from Uefa over FFP. Manchester City have reluctantly accepted a conditional €60m fine and restrictions on their European squad and incoming transfers under Uefa's new financial fair play regime. The sanctions will limit Manuel Pellegrini's options when it comes to naming his 21-man European squad, cut from the usual 25, of which eight must qualify as "homegrown". If they comply with those conditions, they will get back €40m of the €60m fine, which will be deducted from their Uefa prize money over the next three years." http://www.theguardi an.com/football/2014 /may/16/manchester-c ity-fine-transfer-ca p-uefa-ffp So there you go no-dads. Manchester City HAVE accepted the sanctions and therefore MUST make the necessary adjustments to fall in line with the rules. This means that Mickey Mouse clubs likes yourselves have got no chance. You WILL have to accept your punishment and you WILL have to restructure your finances in line with the rules, which state a maximum loss of no more than £3m. Oh dear. look.up.blackburn.
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9:20am Wed 11 Jun 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
Goodwillie on the move ?

http://www.eveningti

mes.co.uk/rangers/ra

ngers-set-to-move-fo

r-former-target-good

willie-166846n.24457

827?
Hope the move goes through as it never worked out for Goodwillie or Rovers..
will also help to reduce wages whiich can only be good.
Keep moving them on GB..........
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: Goodwillie on the move ? http://www.eveningti mes.co.uk/rangers/ra ngers-set-to-move-fo r-former-target-good willie-166846n.24457 827?[/p][/quote]Hope the move goes through as it never worked out for Goodwillie or Rovers.. will also help to reduce wages whiich can only be good. Keep moving them on GB.......... Harwoodstblue
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10:13am Wed 11 Jun 14

owd nick says...

Richard Oakley wrote:
You are correct owd_nick man City has not accepted a fine of £49m. Uefa issued a statement saying what Man City has agreed to. Man City has not issued a statement to that effect or any effect. Paris St. Germain have delivered UEFA a two-fingered salute

Deloitte's have issued their summary of football in the Premier and Championship Leagues The average Premier League club made £18m loss in 2013/14. Championship Clubs lost an average of £10m and wages wee 106% of turnover first time they'd exceeded 100% in 12 years.

@baldie it is not speculation that Blackburn Rovers will be affected by FFP. Blackburn Rovers FC Managing Director has stated that as things currently stand the Club will not in compliance with the FFP rules as they stand for 2013/14. Any transfer ban would last until the first January transfer window after a full set of annual accounts in compliance with FFP rules. Projections for future years filed with the 2013/14 accounts will provide an indication as to when the club will be in compliance.
Bang on Richard, Chapeau.
[quote][p][bold]Richard Oakley[/bold] wrote: You are correct owd_nick man City has not accepted a fine of £49m. Uefa issued a statement saying what Man City has agreed to. Man City has not issued a statement to that effect or any effect. Paris St. Germain have delivered UEFA a two-fingered salute Deloitte's have issued their summary of football in the Premier and Championship Leagues The average Premier League club made £18m loss in 2013/14. Championship Clubs lost an average of £10m and wages wee 106% of turnover first time they'd exceeded 100% in 12 years. @baldie it is not speculation that Blackburn Rovers will be affected by FFP. Blackburn Rovers FC Managing Director has stated that as things currently stand the Club will not in compliance with the FFP rules as they stand for 2013/14. Any transfer ban would last until the first January transfer window after a full set of annual accounts in compliance with FFP rules. Projections for future years filed with the 2013/14 accounts will provide an indication as to when the club will be in compliance.[/p][/quote]Bang on Richard, Chapeau. owd nick
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10:21am Wed 11 Jun 14

owd nick says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
Goodwillie on the move ?

http://www.eveningti

mes.co.uk/rangers/ra

ngers-set-to-move-fo

r-former-target-good

willie-166846n.24457

827?
Looks like they are after a loan, which would probably help all three parties in the longer term as his contract with Rovers runs out next June.

I feel a tad sorry for Goodwillie; he was caught up in all the miasma of the Kean period and because of that he never really had a chance, perhaps the move back home will help him, if it comes off that is.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: Goodwillie on the move ? http://www.eveningti mes.co.uk/rangers/ra ngers-set-to-move-fo r-former-target-good willie-166846n.24457 827?[/p][/quote]Looks like they are after a loan, which would probably help all three parties in the longer term as his contract with Rovers runs out next June. I feel a tad sorry for Goodwillie; he was caught up in all the miasma of the Kean period and because of that he never really had a chance, perhaps the move back home will help him, if it comes off that is. owd nick
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10:42am Wed 11 Jun 14

owd nick says...

owd nick wrote:
Richard Oakley wrote:
You are correct owd_nick man City has not accepted a fine of £49m. Uefa issued a statement saying what Man City has agreed to. Man City has not issued a statement to that effect or any effect. Paris St. Germain have delivered UEFA a two-fingered salute

Deloitte's have issued their summary of football in the Premier and Championship Leagues The average Premier League club made £18m loss in 2013/14. Championship Clubs lost an average of £10m and wages wee 106% of turnover first time they'd exceeded 100% in 12 years.

@baldie it is not speculation that Blackburn Rovers will be affected by FFP. Blackburn Rovers FC Managing Director has stated that as things currently stand the Club will not in compliance with the FFP rules as they stand for 2013/14. Any transfer ban would last until the first January transfer window after a full set of annual accounts in compliance with FFP rules. Projections for future years filed with the 2013/14 accounts will provide an indication as to when the club will be in compliance.
Bang on Richard, Chapeau.
Regarding the transfer embargo issue, the FA have to give due notice of any potential penalties in good time so that the the clubs affected can review and appeal them.

One source of appeal open to clubs is to show that they are making progress and have been working towards compliance, cannot achieve it by the set date but have ongoing plans to do so.

On the evidence provided the FA can either keep the penalty as it is, reduce it or actually increase it if they feel that the club cannot achieve parity by the date they say they will.

Any penalties imposed will take effect on the 1st January 2015 and will run until the figures for the season 2014-15 are published and assessed and the whole process begins again.

So we differ slightly in our interpretations of the words and phrases used, but we aren't that far apart., not bad in the great scheme of things.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richard Oakley[/bold] wrote: You are correct owd_nick man City has not accepted a fine of £49m. Uefa issued a statement saying what Man City has agreed to. Man City has not issued a statement to that effect or any effect. Paris St. Germain have delivered UEFA a two-fingered salute Deloitte's have issued their summary of football in the Premier and Championship Leagues The average Premier League club made £18m loss in 2013/14. Championship Clubs lost an average of £10m and wages wee 106% of turnover first time they'd exceeded 100% in 12 years. @baldie it is not speculation that Blackburn Rovers will be affected by FFP. Blackburn Rovers FC Managing Director has stated that as things currently stand the Club will not in compliance with the FFP rules as they stand for 2013/14. Any transfer ban would last until the first January transfer window after a full set of annual accounts in compliance with FFP rules. Projections for future years filed with the 2013/14 accounts will provide an indication as to when the club will be in compliance.[/p][/quote]Bang on Richard, Chapeau.[/p][/quote]Regarding the transfer embargo issue, the FA have to give due notice of any potential penalties in good time so that the the clubs affected can review and appeal them. One source of appeal open to clubs is to show that they are making progress and have been working towards compliance, cannot achieve it by the set date but have ongoing plans to do so. On the evidence provided the FA can either keep the penalty as it is, reduce it or actually increase it if they feel that the club cannot achieve parity by the date they say they will. Any penalties imposed will take effect on the 1st January 2015 and will run until the figures for the season 2014-15 are published and assessed and the whole process begins again. So we differ slightly in our interpretations of the words and phrases used, but we aren't that far apart., not bad in the great scheme of things. owd nick
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10:56am Wed 11 Jun 14

look.up.blackburn. says...

Goodwillie going out on loan in order to run down his contract and leave for free next summer. Rangers get a player, Blackburn lose a player, Rangers only pay a percentage of his extortionate salary with Blackburn making up the lions share. If the Leon Best loan is anything to go by the club that loaned him, Sheff Weds, only paid a SIXTH of his salary! Rangers are in a far worse financial position, I expect a similar deal and further misery for the bean counters at Blackburn Rovers. Disgraceful.
Goodwillie going out on loan in order to run down his contract and leave for free next summer. Rangers get a player, Blackburn lose a player, Rangers only pay a percentage of his extortionate salary with Blackburn making up the lions share. If the Leon Best loan is anything to go by the club that loaned him, Sheff Weds, only paid a SIXTH of his salary! Rangers are in a far worse financial position, I expect a similar deal and further misery for the bean counters at Blackburn Rovers. Disgraceful. look.up.blackburn.
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10:44pm Sun 15 Jun 14

clitheroe blue boy says...

The ONLY way Rovers will keep Dunn is IF he agrees to a 'pay per play' deal, in which he doesn't want, as he wants a 1 year contract and paid regardless if he plays or not. So it's unlikely he will stay unless he gets no offers from anybody else.

Regarding FFP, unless im wrong, we are still paying Steve Keane every month! Hence he's still out of work, as he gets paid for the remainder of his lucrative contract until he takes up a new job. Can anybody confirm this?

As I've previously said, word from a good source at Brockhall is that Rhodes is looking for a move, and his agent is making sure prem clubs are aware, but Rhodes is keeping quiet when pressed on this. Hope he stays but don't hold your breath.
The ONLY way Rovers will keep Dunn is IF he agrees to a 'pay per play' deal, in which he doesn't want, as he wants a 1 year contract and paid regardless if he plays or not. So it's unlikely he will stay unless he gets no offers from anybody else. Regarding FFP, unless im wrong, we are still paying Steve Keane every month! Hence he's still out of work, as he gets paid for the remainder of his lucrative contract until he takes up a new job. Can anybody confirm this? As I've previously said, word from a good source at Brockhall is that Rhodes is looking for a move, and his agent is making sure prem clubs are aware, but Rhodes is keeping quiet when pressed on this. Hope he stays but don't hold your breath. clitheroe blue boy
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