Dan Clough column: Mixed results are price of stability

This Is Lancashire: Gary Bowyer Gary Bowyer

THE Blackburn Rovers Football Club Action Group, having faded into the background in recent months, have re-emerged.

I noticed after last week’s disappointing defeat to Bournemouth it appeared their members were beginning to become more vocal.

They said the Venky’s Out banners would be dusted off at this weekend’s game against Leicester to remind the owners that they are ‘not wanted’.

How troubling it must be for Gary Bowyer as he does his best for the club that one bad run could lead to a return of the protests.

I wonder if Saturday’s 4-2 win at Huddersfield will change their minds.

If it does, it will show just how petty they really are.

The 4-0 thrashing at Bolton was awful and the defeat to Burnley devastating, if a little inevitable. But it wasn’t particularly deserved.

A lacklustre performance against a Bournemouth side that should have been dispatched with relative ease was, it has to be said, not acceptable, so it was pleasing that Rovers responded the way they did in West Yorkshire.

One bad run. Three games.

That is what it has taken for some to start questioning the manager.

Sack him! Yes, and then what? Who do we bring in that will do a better job.

There have been wholesale changes on the playing staff at Ewood with a great deal of young, inexperienced players coming in.

This has led to an irritating lack of consistency as we start to build a squad that can hopefully achieve greater things going forward.

We have a young side that is still getting to know each other. Let’s face it, we are in one a better position now than we were at this time last season.

Promotion via the play-offs is a distant dream, unless we suddenly discover that elusive consistency and win seven of our remaining 11 games.

But I would say we are looking in far better shape to go at it next season, provided we can maintain the stability that has been instilled at the club this season.

The arrival of Venky’s brought another ugly plague to Ewood Park – a group of fans with no patience and a desire to kick off whenever things go badly.

Venky’s have learned their lesson after 18 months of disaster after disaster.

Rovers now look a lot more stable as a club and are no longer in the headlines for the wrong reasons.

Venky’s have quietened down, receded into the background and allowed the running of the club and the team to be left to those who know best.

So why can’t the protesters do the same?

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3:15pm Tue 18 Mar 14

jinkyjase says...

Wait for it...
Wait for it... jinkyjase
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3:27pm Tue 18 Mar 14

owd nick says...

Have to agree with everything in the article.
Have to agree with everything in the article. owd nick
  • Score: 38

3:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Tugay's Understudy says...

I don't believe we should be sacking Bowyer just yet but it is worth getting your facts correct Dan. It wasn't just three games lost in a row, it was nine points from nine and a number of questionable tactical decisions over the course of the season that have recently come to more of a head. Not to mention the constant talk of consistency and play offs and absolutely no substance, the fans have been getting frustrated, myself included. Stability is one thing but is Bowyer the man to lead us to promotion next season? With parachute payments drying up, FFP sanctions etc, next season may be our best shot. Do I think GB has it in him? Tactically so far no, and his dull as dishwater approach seems to have left the players relaxed after each win, hence the inconsistency. Personally I think we should assess our options in November. If we are top four and GB has learned his lessons then great. If we find ourselves with the same inconsistency and same tactical errors then it may be time for him to go.
I don't believe we should be sacking Bowyer just yet but it is worth getting your facts correct Dan. It wasn't just three games lost in a row, it was nine points from nine and a number of questionable tactical decisions over the course of the season that have recently come to more of a head. Not to mention the constant talk of consistency and play offs and absolutely no substance, the fans have been getting frustrated, myself included. Stability is one thing but is Bowyer the man to lead us to promotion next season? With parachute payments drying up, FFP sanctions etc, next season may be our best shot. Do I think GB has it in him? Tactically so far no, and his dull as dishwater approach seems to have left the players relaxed after each win, hence the inconsistency. Personally I think we should assess our options in November. If we are top four and GB has learned his lessons then great. If we find ourselves with the same inconsistency and same tactical errors then it may be time for him to go. Tugay's Understudy
  • Score: 20

4:01pm Tue 18 Mar 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

I could have sworn Venky's stated aim for this season was promotion, offering a free Premiership season ticket to those who bought one for this season.
I could have sworn Venky's stated aim for this season was promotion, offering a free Premiership season ticket to those who bought one for this season. OnePostThenTheOther
  • Score: 16

4:01pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Fidel Castro says...

What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.
What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper. Fidel Castro
  • Score: -35

4:25pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Turnaldo says...

Fidel Castro wrote:
What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.
Nothing he says could possibly be more disgraceful, pathetic or idiotic as the nonsense served up by the action group. Get behind the team. End of story.
[quote][p][bold]Fidel Castro[/bold] wrote: What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.[/p][/quote]Nothing he says could possibly be more disgraceful, pathetic or idiotic as the nonsense served up by the action group. Get behind the team. End of story. Turnaldo
  • Score: 48

4:27pm Tue 18 Mar 14

stick to football says...

This is the man who says everything at Rovers is dependent on David Dunn - now get real Dunny is still a quality player but his days are numbered and thankfully Rovers will survive without him whatever Dan may think.

As for Venkys - why dont you interview them Dan - now that would make for interesting journalism that the fans would be interested in - not your opinions
Have the Venkys got support of the fans No I doubt it - they just have to accept that without money to buy Venkys out the fans are fully dependant on Venkys whether they like it or not.
Yes things are better than last season but last season was unacceptable. That does not mean the fans accept in silence mediocracy from a good squad of players. What concerns me is when teams like Wigan are signing quality young Premiership players like Collison from West Ham for the future to name but one while Rovers are restricted to lower league players. Some may well come good but some will be shipped out like a lot of GBs summer signings

Nothing happens at Ewood without Venkys approval - the buck stops with them - when did they last addrerss the fans? Try some real investigative journalism LT instead of calling the fans
This is the man who says everything at Rovers is dependent on David Dunn - now get real Dunny is still a quality player but his days are numbered and thankfully Rovers will survive without him whatever Dan may think. As for Venkys - why dont you interview them Dan - now that would make for interesting journalism that the fans would be interested in - not your opinions Have the Venkys got support of the fans No I doubt it - they just have to accept that without money to buy Venkys out the fans are fully dependant on Venkys whether they like it or not. Yes things are better than last season but last season was unacceptable. That does not mean the fans accept in silence mediocracy from a good squad of players. What concerns me is when teams like Wigan are signing quality young Premiership players like Collison from West Ham for the future to name but one while Rovers are restricted to lower league players. Some may well come good but some will be shipped out like a lot of GBs summer signings Nothing happens at Ewood without Venkys approval - the buck stops with them - when did they last addrerss the fans? Try some real investigative journalism LT instead of calling the fans stick to football
  • Score: 10

4:38pm Tue 18 Mar 14

The Axe says...

Has anyone actually bothered to look at Bowyer's achievements in charge of the youth team and reseves. Apart from his last year in charge the youth team went out of the youth cup at the first time of asking every season, against non-Premier League teams. He once saw them lose six games on the bounce with Hanley and Jones at centre back. As for his record in bringing players through.
Hanley,Jones, Lowe and Olsson does not represent the bare minimum return from a top class Academy. Two seasons ago the reserves under his guidance won three games in a season.
Has anyone actually bothered to look at Bowyer's achievements in charge of the youth team and reseves. Apart from his last year in charge the youth team went out of the youth cup at the first time of asking every season, against non-Premier League teams. He once saw them lose six games on the bounce with Hanley and Jones at centre back. As for his record in bringing players through. Hanley,Jones, Lowe and Olsson does not represent the bare minimum return from a top class Academy. Two seasons ago the reserves under his guidance won three games in a season. The Axe
  • Score: 6

4:38pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Is Eckersley playing? says...

Now, Dan, if you are a little 'in the know' down there could you please find out for me these simple queries - perhaps you could ask our new spin doctor - there's a good chap.
1. Why did the Venkys come here?
2. How long do they intend to stay or is the club seen as a legacy for their kids. If not, why do they stay?
3. Do they intend setting foot in Blackburn again?
I'm quite sure the answers would be of interest to one or two other fans besides me. Thank you in anticipation.
Now, Dan, if you are a little 'in the know' down there could you please find out for me these simple queries - perhaps you could ask our new spin doctor - there's a good chap. 1. Why did the Venkys come here? 2. How long do they intend to stay or is the club seen as a legacy for their kids. If not, why do they stay? 3. Do they intend setting foot in Blackburn again? I'm quite sure the answers would be of interest to one or two other fans besides me. Thank you in anticipation. Is Eckersley playing?
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4:51pm Tue 18 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Fidel Castro wrote:
What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.
brag are a load of jumped-up t.osspots - they have done nowt for ages cos they had been in shebby singh's pocket and now he is off the scene they start to try and flex their (non-existent) muscles once more - the likes of mullen and fish should look at themselves in the mirror and ask what they have achieved?

i can't stand the venkys and believe they have ripped out the heart of BRFC - but we still hold the soul and there ain't nothing that venkys or brag can do about that.

the sensible one will follow rovers and remain loyal to the cause whether the club is competing in the champions league or the fa vase (or whatever it is called these days). the thing about brag is that they never offered anything positively since they emerged from the womb.

and as for where has dan clough been for 3 years - writing on here about the goings on at rovers both as a reporter and (as is the case with this article) his personal views as a fan in this blog.

venkys out....yes! but brag out too!!!
[quote][p][bold]Fidel Castro[/bold] wrote: What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.[/p][/quote]brag are a load of jumped-up t.osspots - they have done nowt for ages cos they had been in shebby singh's pocket and now he is off the scene they start to try and flex their (non-existent) muscles once more - the likes of mullen and fish should look at themselves in the mirror and ask what they have achieved? i can't stand the venkys and believe they have ripped out the heart of BRFC - but we still hold the soul and there ain't nothing that venkys or brag can do about that. the sensible one will follow rovers and remain loyal to the cause whether the club is competing in the champions league or the fa vase (or whatever it is called these days). the thing about brag is that they never offered anything positively since they emerged from the womb. and as for where has dan clough been for 3 years - writing on here about the goings on at rovers both as a reporter and (as is the case with this article) his personal views as a fan in this blog. venkys out....yes! but brag out too!!! hasslem hasslem
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5:04pm Tue 18 Mar 14

jackmetickler says...

what you saying ..... that no one has a right to voice anti-venkys feeling otherwise your disloyal to GB and the team...
utter crud ...

I cant stand the Venkys and although I dont voice it at games (whilst they stay away that is) in order that the team can get on with their job ...
and BRAG (which I am not a member) have every right to let them know we dont want them...... lest we forget they have brought about this demise that sees us getting beat by the likes of the dingles..... having to play them is bad enough...
what you saying ..... that no one has a right to voice anti-venkys feeling otherwise your disloyal to GB and the team... utter crud ... I cant stand the Venkys and although I dont voice it at games (whilst they stay away that is) in order that the team can get on with their job ... and BRAG (which I am not a member) have every right to let them know we dont want them...... lest we forget they have brought about this demise that sees us getting beat by the likes of the dingles..... having to play them is bad enough... jackmetickler
  • Score: -1

5:09pm Tue 18 Mar 14

McClaret says...

Why should Bournemouth be 'Dispatched with relative ease'? Hardly the divisions whipping boys or am I missing something. Poor reporting and disrespectful of a team all of 2 places and 3 points behind Blackburn in the league.
Why should Bournemouth be 'Dispatched with relative ease'? Hardly the divisions whipping boys or am I missing something. Poor reporting and disrespectful of a team all of 2 places and 3 points behind Blackburn in the league. McClaret
  • Score: 1

5:18pm Tue 18 Mar 14

rover95 says...

Mullen out
Mullen out rover95
  • Score: 7

5:19pm Tue 18 Mar 14

dangerous dave says...

Fidel Castro wrote:
What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.
spot on and as for Clough and his statement of 'mixed results are price of stability' - idiot - mixed results/inconsistent performances could easily have meant the price of demotion to yet a lower division and if Clough's view's are what's in store for us next season then there is little hope of the Rovers redeeming themselves under the current Owners/Management - this guy writes some real 'tripe' about the Rovers and is as inspiring as the photo of GB !!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]Fidel Castro[/bold] wrote: What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.[/p][/quote]spot on and as for Clough and his statement of 'mixed results are price of stability' - idiot - mixed results/inconsistent performances could easily have meant the price of demotion to yet a lower division and if Clough's view's are what's in store for us next season then there is little hope of the Rovers redeeming themselves under the current Owners/Management - this guy writes some real 'tripe' about the Rovers and is as inspiring as the photo of GB !!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave
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5:43pm Tue 18 Mar 14

J.C - Rishton says...

Dan, Dan THE Venky appologist man !!!

Come on Dan "Venkys have learned their lesson" - oh really, I must have missed their appology to us fans then - when was that ??

They have improved this year because they havent sacked a manager and they have put some cash into the club (in the form of LOANS, which isnt quite the same thing as GIVING the club money).

But they still havent built any bridges with us fans or SPONSORS so they aint gonna win "owner of the year award" anytime soon.

Although I don't think this is the right time to protest, IF members of BRAG or other supporters want to do so then, as PAYING customers (for Mrs Desai's benefit a paying customer is also known as a SUPPORTER) then they have the right to do so.

At least, it will show that there is a sizeable percentage of Rovers fans who are still unhappy with their ownership and anyone who has ever owned a business will know - if a sizeable amount of your customers complain then the onnus is on you, the owner, to deal with the complaint and make appropriate changes.

Last time supporters complained, Venkys behaved disgracefully by doing the opposite and ultimately the supporters were proved correct.

I hope there isnt complaints at this time but if there is then we will REALLY find out if Venkys have learned and if they have, they will deal with the protests in a much more positive manner and hopefully outstanding issues (yes oldnick, many supporters have outstanding issues with Venkys that, sooner or latter, will have to be delt with).

Personally, I think that if there are protests then we will see that a Leopard doesnt or can't change its spots and that they will deal with the protests in the same (terrible, cowardly) manner as last time.
Dan, Dan THE Venky appologist man !!! Come on Dan "Venkys have learned their lesson" - oh really, I must have missed their appology to us fans then - when was that ?? They have improved this year because they havent sacked a manager and they have put some cash into the club (in the form of LOANS, which isnt quite the same thing as GIVING the club money). But they still havent built any bridges with us fans or SPONSORS so they aint gonna win "owner of the year award" anytime soon. Although I don't think this is the right time to protest, IF members of BRAG or other supporters want to do so then, as PAYING customers (for Mrs Desai's benefit a paying customer is also known as a SUPPORTER) then they have the right to do so. At least, it will show that there is a sizeable percentage of Rovers fans who are still unhappy with their ownership and anyone who has ever owned a business will know - if a sizeable amount of your customers complain then the onnus is on you, the owner, to deal with the complaint and make appropriate changes. Last time supporters complained, Venkys behaved disgracefully by doing the opposite and ultimately the supporters were proved correct. I hope there isnt complaints at this time but if there is then we will REALLY find out if Venkys have learned and if they have, they will deal with the protests in a much more positive manner and hopefully outstanding issues (yes oldnick, many supporters have outstanding issues with Venkys that, sooner or latter, will have to be delt with). Personally, I think that if there are protests then we will see that a Leopard doesnt or can't change its spots and that they will deal with the protests in the same (terrible, cowardly) manner as last time. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: -3

5:59pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Riverside 7 says...

Dan, I agree with your comments about the Action Group, we certainly don’t want them raising their heads at Ewood again.

However, I want to take issue with you and many other Bowyer supporters who believe our inconsistency is due to the fact that we have a very young team.

You mention in your article about the ‘great deal of young, inexperienced players coming into the team’ and blame this for our inconsistency.

Well let’s look a bit deeper.
Out of the 14 players who took part in the game at Huddersfield on Saturday we had 9 aged 25 and over ; -

Robinson aged 34
Killgallon 30
Spurr 26
Williamson 31
Conway 28
Varney 31
Dunn 34
Gestede 25
Taylor 27

Another thing, whilst the club appears more stable than last year it couldn’t really get any worse could it – what with Kean, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton and Bowyer again.

Despite the managerial stability with Bowyer in charge since last March, before Saturday’s game we were just 1 point better off than at the same stage last season.

For me, given the number of new players Bowyer has brought into the club, this isn’t good enough and I really don’t think he is the person to lead us to promotion next season.
Dan, I agree with your comments about the Action Group, we certainly don’t want them raising their heads at Ewood again. However, I want to take issue with you and many other Bowyer supporters who believe our inconsistency is due to the fact that we have a very young team. You mention in your article about the ‘great deal of young, inexperienced players coming into the team’ and blame this for our inconsistency. Well let’s look a bit deeper. Out of the 14 players who took part in the game at Huddersfield on Saturday we had 9 aged 25 and over ; - Robinson aged 34 Killgallon 30 Spurr 26 Williamson 31 Conway 28 Varney 31 Dunn 34 Gestede 25 Taylor 27 Another thing, whilst the club appears more stable than last year it couldn’t really get any worse could it – what with Kean, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton and Bowyer again. Despite the managerial stability with Bowyer in charge since last March, before Saturday’s game we were just 1 point better off than at the same stage last season. For me, given the number of new players Bowyer has brought into the club, this isn’t good enough and I really don’t think he is the person to lead us to promotion next season. Riverside 7
  • Score: 6

6:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14

CJB official says...

Ridiculous article, clearly not watched many games this season, Gary bowyers poor tactics have cost us in so many games this season, however that being said he shouldn't be sacked even though he has only accumulated the same amount of points as three different mangers did at this stage last season, the only reason we are not in a relegation dog fight like last season is because there are a greater number poor teams in the league than there were last season. Who would come in to replace bowyer at this stage, however once Rhodes leaves in the summer after yet again failing to secure premier league football with rovers, another turbulant season is on the cards especially when the financial fair play rules come into effect.
Ridiculous article, clearly not watched many games this season, Gary bowyers poor tactics have cost us in so many games this season, however that being said he shouldn't be sacked even though he has only accumulated the same amount of points as three different mangers did at this stage last season, the only reason we are not in a relegation dog fight like last season is because there are a greater number poor teams in the league than there were last season. Who would come in to replace bowyer at this stage, however once Rhodes leaves in the summer after yet again failing to secure premier league football with rovers, another turbulant season is on the cards especially when the financial fair play rules come into effect. CJB official
  • Score: 2

7:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Super_Clarets says...

And here we go again, whinge, whinge, moan, moan.

What a shambles...

When are you goons going to learn that no-one cares. Protest and boycott all you like but Venky's are in charge and there's nothing you can do about it.
And here we go again, whinge, whinge, moan, moan. What a shambles... When are you goons going to learn that no-one cares. Protest and boycott all you like but Venky's are in charge and there's nothing you can do about it. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -10

8:43pm Tue 18 Mar 14

flagstone says...

Oh for the days of decent In depth journalism , and someone who had the want to get a REAL story from the people in the club ....... Dan Clough , try looking at some archive stories from Peter White .....
Oh for the days of decent In depth journalism , and someone who had the want to get a REAL story from the people in the club ....... Dan Clough , try looking at some archive stories from Peter White ..... flagstone
  • Score: 7

8:48pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Blackburn Olympic says...

What an utterly disrespectful article to the supporters of Blackburn Rovers. I am in no way a supporter of BRAG, but to suggest that we should be happy with what has gone on this season is ridiculous. This squad is a top 6 squad yet we will finish mid table. Not acceptable.
What an utterly disrespectful article to the supporters of Blackburn Rovers. I am in no way a supporter of BRAG, but to suggest that we should be happy with what has gone on this season is ridiculous. This squad is a top 6 squad yet we will finish mid table. Not acceptable. Blackburn Olympic
  • Score: 15

8:51pm Tue 18 Mar 14

baldie says...

Season ticket time just around the corner.
Get your excuses in early.
Season ticket time just around the corner. Get your excuses in early. baldie
  • Score: 9

9:15pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Rover Crisby says...

This is an Interesting article for me if for no other reason than the comments section shows that people are still divided about the way forward for the club generally. For what its worth I hope BRAG don't re-emerge. I have always been and remain of the belief that booing and protesting at matches is counter-productive and I really struggle to understand the benefit. If people feel they must protest then, in my view, do so after matches have finished and once the players have left the pitch. I know people have said the people attending are paying customers and have a right to boo whenever they like but I am a paying customer too, I hate the booing during games, so what about my rights?

As for Bowyer, I hope we give him the time to continue the re-building process at Ewood. People have talked about his tactics and of course the game is about opinions but it always make me laugh when people say things like it is the negative tactics that have lost us games and then say without absolute certainty that if more attacking tactics had been used we would definitely have won the games. Unfortunately to me this is a nonsense, we have had plenty of managers who have gone all out attack and failed miserably. Paul Ince was a prime example of this, yes we scored goals but my god did we concede them, I seem to remember he was sacked after we scored 3 goals against Man United (they scored 5!). I would like to see a continuation of the more positive approach taken at Huddersfield however but it is always a balancing act between attack and defence.

For me though after the last few years of turmoil, I would just like to see the continuity talked about in the article and a little pit of patience which seems so lacking in the world of football
This is an Interesting article for me if for no other reason than the comments section shows that people are still divided about the way forward for the club generally. For what its worth I hope BRAG don't re-emerge. I have always been and remain of the belief that booing and protesting at matches is counter-productive and I really struggle to understand the benefit. If people feel they must protest then, in my view, do so after matches have finished and once the players have left the pitch. I know people have said the people attending are paying customers and have a right to boo whenever they like but I am a paying customer too, I hate the booing during games, so what about my rights? As for Bowyer, I hope we give him the time to continue the re-building process at Ewood. People have talked about his tactics and of course the game is about opinions but it always make me laugh when people say things like it is the negative tactics that have lost us games and then say without absolute certainty that if more attacking tactics had been used we would definitely have won the games. Unfortunately to me this is a nonsense, we have had plenty of managers who have gone all out attack and failed miserably. Paul Ince was a prime example of this, yes we scored goals but my god did we concede them, I seem to remember he was sacked after we scored 3 goals against Man United (they scored 5!). I would like to see a continuation of the more positive approach taken at Huddersfield however but it is always a balancing act between attack and defence. For me though after the last few years of turmoil, I would just like to see the continuity talked about in the article and a little pit of patience which seems so lacking in the world of football Rover Crisby
  • Score: 3

9:26pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Rover Crisby says...

Blackburn Olympic wrote:
What an utterly disrespectful article to the supporters of Blackburn Rovers. I am in no way a supporter of BRAG, but to suggest that we should be happy with what has gone on this season is ridiculous. This squad is a top 6 squad yet we will finish mid table. Not acceptable.
Top 6 squad? Really? Possibly now we have the additions which have been made but those additions have been made throughout the season. The squad we had at the beginning of the season definitely wasnt top 6.

Dont forget Robinson was injured for most of the season, Gestede joined in November, Conway, Varney and Keene more recently still. Evans, Marshall, Dunn and King have been injured for a lot of the season. Marshall was unfit when he arrived whilst Cairney didnt have a full pre-season and neither did a lot of others.

I would say it is a pretty unfair criticism to level at a manager who has inherited a shambles, been told to cut the wage bill and all the while having to build a team on the fly.
[quote][p][bold]Blackburn Olympic[/bold] wrote: What an utterly disrespectful article to the supporters of Blackburn Rovers. I am in no way a supporter of BRAG, but to suggest that we should be happy with what has gone on this season is ridiculous. This squad is a top 6 squad yet we will finish mid table. Not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Top 6 squad? Really? Possibly now we have the additions which have been made but those additions have been made throughout the season. The squad we had at the beginning of the season definitely wasnt top 6. Dont forget Robinson was injured for most of the season, Gestede joined in November, Conway, Varney and Keene more recently still. Evans, Marshall, Dunn and King have been injured for a lot of the season. Marshall was unfit when he arrived whilst Cairney didnt have a full pre-season and neither did a lot of others. I would say it is a pretty unfair criticism to level at a manager who has inherited a shambles, been told to cut the wage bill and all the while having to build a team on the fly. Rover Crisby
  • Score: 8

10:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

champs95 says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
And here we go again, whinge, whinge, moan, moan.

What a shambles...

When are you goons going to learn that no-one cares. Protest and boycott all you like but Venky's are in charge and there's nothing you can do about it.
You care, evidently.
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: And here we go again, whinge, whinge, moan, moan. What a shambles... When are you goons going to learn that no-one cares. Protest and boycott all you like but Venky's are in charge and there's nothing you can do about it.[/p][/quote]You care, evidently. champs95
  • Score: 5

10:13pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Monsters mum says...

For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?
For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot? Monsters mum
  • Score: 7

10:45pm Tue 18 Mar 14

kool4katz says...

The Blackburn Rovers Action group committee have not stated that protests will be resumed or banners presant at the ground,although one member with a badge as a logo, did suggest it on a Facebook page,I wouldn't be suprised f Dan Clough dosn't recieve a soliciters letter over this,so wait for the public apolagy before passing judgement,
The Blackburn Rovers Action group committee have not stated that protests will be resumed or banners presant at the ground,although one member with a badge as a logo, did suggest it on a Facebook page,I wouldn't be suprised f Dan Clough dosn't recieve a soliciters letter over this,so wait for the public apolagy before passing judgement, kool4katz
  • Score: 6

10:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Leonard Venkhater says...

So..." ugly plague to Ewood Park" = "a group of fans with no patience ??"

In the words of John McEnroe, " You cannot be serious!!"
Laughable in your lack of analysis..and in the local paper too!
Maybe you should go and spout uncritical, self regarding nonsense on Talkspite or join the lazy "journalists" of Sky...
So..." ugly plague to Ewood Park" = "a group of fans with no patience ??" In the words of John McEnroe, " You cannot be serious!!" Laughable in your lack of analysis..and in the local paper too! Maybe you should go and spout uncritical, self regarding nonsense on Talkspite or join the lazy "journalists" of Sky... Leonard Venkhater
  • Score: 7

11:05pm Tue 18 Mar 14

owd nick says...

Fidel Castro wrote:
What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.
Whats is a protets?

Must be a BRAG member. All mouth no trousers.
[quote][p][bold]Fidel Castro[/bold] wrote: What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.[/p][/quote]Whats is a protets? Must be a BRAG member. All mouth no trousers. owd nick
  • Score: -6

11:35pm Tue 18 Mar 14

mammamiauk says...

baldie wrote:
Season ticket time just around the corner.
Get your excuses in early.
I will be renewing my season ticket next season and getting behind GB, the players and the club no matter what others say and continue supporting the Rovers despite the fact that I have to make a total of 20-hour coach journeys each time!

RTID
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: Season ticket time just around the corner. Get your excuses in early.[/p][/quote]I will be renewing my season ticket next season and getting behind GB, the players and the club no matter what others say and continue supporting the Rovers despite the fact that I have to make a total of 20-hour coach journeys each time! RTID mammamiauk
  • Score: -2

11:36pm Tue 18 Mar 14

owd nick says...

Monsters mum wrote:
For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?
Well to be honest and actually support you I didn't boo the team on the night but I really did feel like doing so, and I don't blame the ones who did.

I never for one moment felt it was BRAG, just an understandable reaction from the real fans who attended the game and were bitterly disappointed in what, in my honest opinion was the worst display by a Rovers team in the 44 years I have been watching them.

And through those long hard years, pre Jack Walker, I have seen some real crap, crap that makes this team look like world beaters, trust me on that.

And for those of you who didn't go to the game, yes it really was that bad.

The problem is that emotions run deep, Venky's screwed us up, no argument about that, but they only stuck the knife in through sheer, unbelievable, arrogance and incompetence.

BRAG twisted the knife and while their initial intentions were honourable, that actually helped to disembowel the club.

I hate BRAG for that, more than I hate Venky's, because Venky's simply didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing, how could they?

BRAG are Rovers fans, some of us asked them to consider what they were doing before it was too late, all we received were threats and abuse, inside the ground and in the media.

At least three opposing managers that I can remember, in consecutive games, Everton, Bolton and WBA were quite open at the time, they regretted doing it but they knew that if the could get BRAG and the rest of the the crowd concentrated on Kean and Venky's the team would disintegrate and it would be easy pickings.

We lost those three games at home, for numskulls like JC Rishton that is a FACT.
[quote][p][bold]Monsters mum[/bold] wrote: For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?[/p][/quote]Well to be honest and actually support you I didn't boo the team on the night but I really did feel like doing so, and I don't blame the ones who did. I never for one moment felt it was BRAG, just an understandable reaction from the real fans who attended the game and were bitterly disappointed in what, in my honest opinion was the worst display by a Rovers team in the 44 years I have been watching them. And through those long hard years, pre Jack Walker, I have seen some real crap, crap that makes this team look like world beaters, trust me on that. And for those of you who didn't go to the game, yes it really was that bad. The problem is that emotions run deep, Venky's screwed us up, no argument about that, but they only stuck the knife in through sheer, unbelievable, arrogance and incompetence. BRAG twisted the knife and while their initial intentions were honourable, that actually helped to disembowel the club. I hate BRAG for that, more than I hate Venky's, because Venky's simply didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing, how could they? BRAG are Rovers fans, some of us asked them to consider what they were doing before it was too late, all we received were threats and abuse, inside the ground and in the media. At least three opposing managers that I can remember, in consecutive games, Everton, Bolton and WBA were quite open at the time, they regretted doing it but they knew that if the could get BRAG and the rest of the the crowd concentrated on Kean and Venky's the team would disintegrate and it would be easy pickings. We lost those three games at home, for numskulls like JC Rishton that is a FACT. owd nick
  • Score: 1

11:43pm Tue 18 Mar 14

owd nick says...

McClaret wrote:
Why should Bournemouth be 'Dispatched with relative ease'? Hardly the divisions whipping boys or am I missing something. Poor reporting and disrespectful of a team all of 2 places and 3 points behind Blackburn in the league.
Actually agree, on the night Bournemouth were by far the better team in every department, the only Rovers player to stand out was Conway.

In fact they were a far better team than Burnley were a few days earlier, a few of us commented on the fact that Howe actually set up the bulk of the team that Dyche inherited at Burnley.
[quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: Why should Bournemouth be 'Dispatched with relative ease'? Hardly the divisions whipping boys or am I missing something. Poor reporting and disrespectful of a team all of 2 places and 3 points behind Blackburn in the league.[/p][/quote]Actually agree, on the night Bournemouth were by far the better team in every department, the only Rovers player to stand out was Conway. In fact they were a far better team than Burnley were a few days earlier, a few of us commented on the fact that Howe actually set up the bulk of the team that Dyche inherited at Burnley. owd nick
  • Score: 6

12:03am Wed 19 Mar 14

owd nick says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Dan, I agree with your comments about the Action Group, we certainly don’t want them raising their heads at Ewood again.

However, I want to take issue with you and many other Bowyer supporters who believe our inconsistency is due to the fact that we have a very young team.

You mention in your article about the ‘great deal of young, inexperienced players coming into the team’ and blame this for our inconsistency.

Well let’s look a bit deeper.
Out of the 14 players who took part in the game at Huddersfield on Saturday we had 9 aged 25 and over ; -

Robinson aged 34
Killgallon 30
Spurr 26
Williamson 31
Conway 28
Varney 31
Dunn 34
Gestede 25
Taylor 27

Another thing, whilst the club appears more stable than last year it couldn’t really get any worse could it – what with Kean, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton and Bowyer again.

Despite the managerial stability with Bowyer in charge since last March, before Saturday’s game we were just 1 point better off than at the same stage last season.

For me, given the number of new players Bowyer has brought into the club, this isn’t good enough and I really don’t think he is the person to lead us to promotion next season.
Not bad but I would take you to task on a couple of things.

Robinson was missing for most of the season pre Christmas.
Killgallon couldn't get in the team until Dann left.
Dunny doesn't play that many games in a season now.
Give you Spurr and Williamson.
Gestede, Conway and Varney are recent additions bringing necessary experience to the squad, something many of us were asking for in the run up to Christmas.
Taylor is in and out of the team, usually on the bench.

This squad is a work in progress,by it's very nature it has to be, we have used at least 35 players so far this season,that is the equivalent of just over 3 teams, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that we are going to get any level of consistency with such an unsettled team.

Comparison? - I stand to be corrected but I believe Burnley have used just 17 players all season, I think that Ings is their first serious injury this season, how many have we had?

On the whole I think GB has done a decent job so far, apart from his tactics that is and deserves to be given at least until Christmas to move on to the next stage.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Dan, I agree with your comments about the Action Group, we certainly don’t want them raising their heads at Ewood again. However, I want to take issue with you and many other Bowyer supporters who believe our inconsistency is due to the fact that we have a very young team. You mention in your article about the ‘great deal of young, inexperienced players coming into the team’ and blame this for our inconsistency. Well let’s look a bit deeper. Out of the 14 players who took part in the game at Huddersfield on Saturday we had 9 aged 25 and over ; - Robinson aged 34 Killgallon 30 Spurr 26 Williamson 31 Conway 28 Varney 31 Dunn 34 Gestede 25 Taylor 27 Another thing, whilst the club appears more stable than last year it couldn’t really get any worse could it – what with Kean, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton and Bowyer again. Despite the managerial stability with Bowyer in charge since last March, before Saturday’s game we were just 1 point better off than at the same stage last season. For me, given the number of new players Bowyer has brought into the club, this isn’t good enough and I really don’t think he is the person to lead us to promotion next season.[/p][/quote]Not bad but I would take you to task on a couple of things. Robinson was missing for most of the season pre Christmas. Killgallon couldn't get in the team until Dann left. Dunny doesn't play that many games in a season now. Give you Spurr and Williamson. Gestede, Conway and Varney are recent additions bringing necessary experience to the squad, something many of us were asking for in the run up to Christmas. Taylor is in and out of the team, usually on the bench. This squad is a work in progress,by it's very nature it has to be, we have used at least 35 players so far this season,that is the equivalent of just over 3 teams, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that we are going to get any level of consistency with such an unsettled team. Comparison? - I stand to be corrected but I believe Burnley have used just 17 players all season, I think that Ings is their first serious injury this season, how many have we had? On the whole I think GB has done a decent job so far, apart from his tactics that is and deserves to be given at least until Christmas to move on to the next stage. owd nick
  • Score: 1

12:04am Wed 19 Mar 14

MxMave says...

Brag are idiots, Venky's are idiots.

Whatever you opinion, it doesn't matter. These factors are far beyond our control.

I think a massive Saudi tycoon would be great, but it won't happen. Fact of the matter is a clubs success is dictated by A) location and B) fan base.
We have neither and inevitably are doomed to failure.

The only thing which counts as fact is public opinion. That being; Bowyer IS tactically weak, Venky's ARE poor owners and Brag ISN'T the answer.
All we can do is ride it out and hope the roll of the dice is in our favor instead of Burnley's next time around.
Brag are idiots, Venky's are idiots. Whatever you opinion, it doesn't matter. These factors are far beyond our control. I think a massive Saudi tycoon would be great, but it won't happen. Fact of the matter is a clubs success is dictated by A) location and B) fan base. We have neither and inevitably are doomed to failure. The only thing which counts as fact is public opinion. That being; Bowyer IS tactically weak, Venky's ARE poor owners and Brag ISN'T the answer. All we can do is ride it out and hope the roll of the dice is in our favor instead of Burnley's next time around. MxMave
  • Score: 5

5:14am Wed 19 Mar 14

RoversSwiss says...

Seems like the BRAG morons are missing their name in the paper, whatever you think of Venkys or GB the worst thing that could possibly happen at Rovers would be the resumption of the protests.

If 13,000 Rovers fans were asked to vote on Saturday at the Leicester game for or against the protests, 12,900 would vote against. Unfortunately BRAG couldn't care less about other Rovers fans because they have their own agenda.
Seems like the BRAG morons are missing their name in the paper, whatever you think of Venkys or GB the worst thing that could possibly happen at Rovers would be the resumption of the protests. If 13,000 Rovers fans were asked to vote on Saturday at the Leicester game for or against the protests, 12,900 would vote against. Unfortunately BRAG couldn't care less about other Rovers fans because they have their own agenda. RoversSwiss
  • Score: 0

5:49am Wed 19 Mar 14

Roverthere says...

mammamiauk wrote:
baldie wrote:
Season ticket time just around the corner.
Get your excuses in early.
I will be renewing my season ticket next season and getting behind GB, the players and the club no matter what others say and continue supporting the Rovers despite the fact that I have to make a total of 20-hour coach journeys each time!

RTID
Well said. Come on you blues!
[quote][p][bold]mammamiauk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: Season ticket time just around the corner. Get your excuses in early.[/p][/quote]I will be renewing my season ticket next season and getting behind GB, the players and the club no matter what others say and continue supporting the Rovers despite the fact that I have to make a total of 20-hour coach journeys each time! RTID[/p][/quote]Well said. Come on you blues! Roverthere
  • Score: 1

6:51am Wed 19 Mar 14

J.C - Rishton says...

owd nick wrote:
Monsters mum wrote:
For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?
Well to be honest and actually support you I didn't boo the team on the night but I really did feel like doing so, and I don't blame the ones who did.

I never for one moment felt it was BRAG, just an understandable reaction from the real fans who attended the game and were bitterly disappointed in what, in my honest opinion was the worst display by a Rovers team in the 44 years I have been watching them.

And through those long hard years, pre Jack Walker, I have seen some real crap, crap that makes this team look like world beaters, trust me on that.

And for those of you who didn't go to the game, yes it really was that bad.

The problem is that emotions run deep, Venky's screwed us up, no argument about that, but they only stuck the knife in through sheer, unbelievable, arrogance and incompetence.

BRAG twisted the knife and while their initial intentions were honourable, that actually helped to disembowel the club.

I hate BRAG for that, more than I hate Venky's, because Venky's simply didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing, how could they?

BRAG are Rovers fans, some of us asked them to consider what they were doing before it was too late, all we received were threats and abuse, inside the ground and in the media.

At least three opposing managers that I can remember, in consecutive games, Everton, Bolton and WBA were quite open at the time, they regretted doing it but they knew that if the could get BRAG and the rest of the the crowd concentrated on Kean and Venky's the team would disintegrate and it would be easy pickings.

We lost those three games at home, for numskulls like JC Rishton that is a FACT.
Owd Nick - there it is in black and white - "I hate BRAG more than I hate Venkys".

You are showing your true colours now scummer boy.

After everything Venkys have done to this club – that is a shocking thing for any Rovers fan to write.

You absolve Venkys because they were "incompetant"

So its fine for someone to take on the responsibility of BRFC ownership and then destroy it because they are too stupid or lazy to make proper checks and do their homework??

But for Rovers fans in the form of BRAG (of which I am not a member) to complain about their GROSS MISMANAGEMENT and RAPE of our football club is UNFORGIVABLE??

If no one had complained, then Venkys would have carried on with their gross mismanagement for much longer - never realised that ?? you utter tool !!

As I have often accused you of being - you are a Venky apologist - nothing more, nothing less, a disciple of Paul Agnew, a disgrace to our great club.

If it were up to you, Kean would still be manager, JA would still be stealing money from Venkys via dodgy transfers and no snowballs would have been thrown & the club would have lost 50% of its fans and 100% of its sponsors - but you'd prefer it because there would have been no disruption at matches

Hang your head in shame you are an embarrassment to BRFC fans the world over
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monsters mum[/bold] wrote: For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?[/p][/quote]Well to be honest and actually support you I didn't boo the team on the night but I really did feel like doing so, and I don't blame the ones who did. I never for one moment felt it was BRAG, just an understandable reaction from the real fans who attended the game and were bitterly disappointed in what, in my honest opinion was the worst display by a Rovers team in the 44 years I have been watching them. And through those long hard years, pre Jack Walker, I have seen some real crap, crap that makes this team look like world beaters, trust me on that. And for those of you who didn't go to the game, yes it really was that bad. The problem is that emotions run deep, Venky's screwed us up, no argument about that, but they only stuck the knife in through sheer, unbelievable, arrogance and incompetence. BRAG twisted the knife and while their initial intentions were honourable, that actually helped to disembowel the club. I hate BRAG for that, more than I hate Venky's, because Venky's simply didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing, how could they? BRAG are Rovers fans, some of us asked them to consider what they were doing before it was too late, all we received were threats and abuse, inside the ground and in the media. At least three opposing managers that I can remember, in consecutive games, Everton, Bolton and WBA were quite open at the time, they regretted doing it but they knew that if the could get BRAG and the rest of the the crowd concentrated on Kean and Venky's the team would disintegrate and it would be easy pickings. We lost those three games at home, for numskulls like JC Rishton that is a FACT.[/p][/quote]Owd Nick - there it is in black and white - "I hate BRAG more than I hate Venkys". You are showing your true colours now scummer boy. After everything Venkys have done to this club – that is a shocking thing for any Rovers fan to write. You absolve Venkys because they were "incompetant" So its fine for someone to take on the responsibility of BRFC ownership and then destroy it because they are too stupid or lazy to make proper checks and do their homework?? But for Rovers fans in the form of BRAG (of which I am not a member) to complain about their GROSS MISMANAGEMENT and RAPE of our football club is UNFORGIVABLE?? If no one had complained, then Venkys would have carried on with their gross mismanagement for much longer - never realised that ?? you utter tool !! As I have often accused you of being - you are a Venky apologist - nothing more, nothing less, a disciple of Paul Agnew, a disgrace to our great club. If it were up to you, Kean would still be manager, JA would still be stealing money from Venkys via dodgy transfers and no snowballs would have been thrown & the club would have lost 50% of its fans and 100% of its sponsors - but you'd prefer it because there would have been no disruption at matches Hang your head in shame you are an embarrassment to BRFC fans the world over J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 3

7:27am Wed 19 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Fidel Castro wrote:
What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.
spot on and as for Clough and his statement of 'mixed results are price of stability' - idiot - mixed results/inconsistent performances could easily have meant the price of demotion to yet a lower division and if Clough's view's are what's in store for us next season then there is little hope of the Rovers redeeming themselves under the current Owners/Management - this guy writes some real 'tripe' about the Rovers and is as inspiring as the photo of GB !!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Dangerous - NOBODY writes as much tripe as you. In fact you could be Lancashire's Champion Tripe Dresser. You would win the trophy 3 years running and get to keep it.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fidel Castro[/bold] wrote: What a load of utter rubbish. Who is this "Dan Clough" and where has he been for the last 3 years? Putting the protets down to the fact there have been a couple of bad results shows a complete lack of understanding of the fact that our club has been destroyed by these people and Clough needs to have a long look at himself and think about whether he is in the right job or if he is fit to write about BRFC. A disgraceful article and not worthy of this once excellent paper.[/p][/quote]spot on and as for Clough and his statement of 'mixed results are price of stability' - idiot - mixed results/inconsistent performances could easily have meant the price of demotion to yet a lower division and if Clough's view's are what's in store for us next season then there is little hope of the Rovers redeeming themselves under the current Owners/Management - this guy writes some real 'tripe' about the Rovers and is as inspiring as the photo of GB !!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Dangerous - NOBODY writes as much tripe as you. In fact you could be Lancashire's Champion Tripe Dresser. You would win the trophy 3 years running and get to keep it. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -1

7:36am Wed 19 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Monsters mum wrote:
For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?
for the record monsters mum - i am just an ordinary supporter like most who come on here.

but i am capable of seeing the distinction between those who are jumped up idiots and those with a logical perspective.....and brag fall into the former category.
[quote][p][bold]Monsters mum[/bold] wrote: For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?[/p][/quote]for the record monsters mum - i am just an ordinary supporter like most who come on here. but i am capable of seeing the distinction between those who are jumped up idiots and those with a logical perspective.....and brag fall into the former category. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -2

8:38am Wed 19 Mar 14

digitusjonfred says...

McClaret wrote:
Why should Bournemouth be 'Dispatched with relative ease'? Hardly the divisions whipping boys or am I missing something. Poor reporting and disrespectful of a team all of 2 places and 3 points behind Blackburn in the league.
You are basically in the EPL , PUT ON DECENT POST OR FRACK OFF.
[quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: Why should Bournemouth be 'Dispatched with relative ease'? Hardly the divisions whipping boys or am I missing something. Poor reporting and disrespectful of a team all of 2 places and 3 points behind Blackburn in the league.[/p][/quote]You are basically in the EPL , PUT ON DECENT POST OR FRACK OFF. digitusjonfred
  • Score: 1

9:23am Wed 19 Mar 14

bring back the good old days says...

Yet again the old sores are opened up again.
It is evident that the vast majority of us are unhappy with our situation.
We would all wish that Venkys had never appeared, or at least now disappeared.
But facts are: they did, and IF they did disappear soon, who is going to pick up the tab?
Are they really likely to 'walk away' with no recompense?
People are saying they should speak up! But why, as none of us really believe anything they say.
People say they should turn up more/show more interest. But why, as none us really want them around or involved.
People are looking for an apology......its not going to happen.

Its all pointless conjecture.

IF someone, or some consortium was around with the wherewithal to entice a sell on by Venkys, I would wholeheartedy welcome a 'hounding out' of them.
Until that time though I am afraid that we are stuck with them, like it or not.
Yet again the old sores are opened up again. It is evident that the vast majority of us are unhappy with our situation. We would all wish that Venkys had never appeared, or at least now disappeared. But facts are: they did, and IF they did disappear soon, who is going to pick up the tab? Are they really likely to 'walk away' with no recompense? People are saying they should speak up! But why, as none of us really believe anything they say. People say they should turn up more/show more interest. But why, as none us really want them around or involved. People are looking for an apology......its not going to happen. Its all pointless conjecture. IF someone, or some consortium was around with the wherewithal to entice a sell on by Venkys, I would wholeheartedy welcome a 'hounding out' of them. Until that time though I am afraid that we are stuck with them, like it or not. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 4

9:41am Wed 19 Mar 14

owd nick says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Monsters mum wrote:
For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?
Well to be honest and actually support you I didn't boo the team on the night but I really did feel like doing so, and I don't blame the ones who did.

I never for one moment felt it was BRAG, just an understandable reaction from the real fans who attended the game and were bitterly disappointed in what, in my honest opinion was the worst display by a Rovers team in the 44 years I have been watching them.

And through those long hard years, pre Jack Walker, I have seen some real crap, crap that makes this team look like world beaters, trust me on that.

And for those of you who didn't go to the game, yes it really was that bad.

The problem is that emotions run deep, Venky's screwed us up, no argument about that, but they only stuck the knife in through sheer, unbelievable, arrogance and incompetence.

BRAG twisted the knife and while their initial intentions were honourable, that actually helped to disembowel the club.

I hate BRAG for that, more than I hate Venky's, because Venky's simply didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing, how could they?

BRAG are Rovers fans, some of us asked them to consider what they were doing before it was too late, all we received were threats and abuse, inside the ground and in the media.

At least three opposing managers that I can remember, in consecutive games, Everton, Bolton and WBA were quite open at the time, they regretted doing it but they knew that if the could get BRAG and the rest of the the crowd concentrated on Kean and Venky's the team would disintegrate and it would be easy pickings.

We lost those three games at home, for numskulls like JC Rishton that is a FACT.
Owd Nick - there it is in black and white - "I hate BRAG more than I hate Venkys".

You are showing your true colours now scummer boy.

After everything Venkys have done to this club – that is a shocking thing for any Rovers fan to write.

You absolve Venkys because they were "incompetant"

So its fine for someone to take on the responsibility of BRFC ownership and then destroy it because they are too stupid or lazy to make proper checks and do their homework??

But for Rovers fans in the form of BRAG (of which I am not a member) to complain about their GROSS MISMANAGEMENT and RAPE of our football club is UNFORGIVABLE??

If no one had complained, then Venkys would have carried on with their gross mismanagement for much longer - never realised that ?? you utter tool !!

As I have often accused you of being - you are a Venky apologist - nothing more, nothing less, a disciple of Paul Agnew, a disgrace to our great club.

If it were up to you, Kean would still be manager, JA would still be stealing money from Venkys via dodgy transfers and no snowballs would have been thrown & the club would have lost 50% of its fans and 100% of its sponsors - but you'd prefer it because there would have been no disruption at matches

Hang your head in shame you are an embarrassment to BRFC fans the world over
JC, firstly I apologise for using the term numskull in reference to your good self, that was unacceptable but this article has opened old wounds, I also withdraw the word "hate", because that is too strong a word.

But that is all I apologise for.

Because like you I am entitled to an opinion.

Let me set the record straight, I do not like Venky's or find what they did in the past acceptable, but I am a pragmatist and as such have to accept that they appear to be attempting to right the wrongs.

If that makes me an apologist and scummer in your eyes then so be it.

I don't like BRAG because I was threatened with violence on at least three occasions because I didn't like what was happening, on one particularly notable occasion, with my then 13 year old daughter standing beside me in tears I was told "Why don't you crawl under your f*****g stone, get cancer and die you f*****g c**t", because I simply asked one guy to tone the language he was using down.

The simple fact that at the time I was being tested for testicular cancer wasn't known to him, but my daughter was more than aware of it, luckily I received the all clear a few days later, but I for one will never forget that day.

Sort of puts your accusations of me being an apologist and a scummer in the shade doesn't it? Sticks and stones and all that jazz.

As for fans demonstrating their anger with Venky's, Kean or whoever I don't have a problem with it, as long as it doesn't affect fans who don't agree with it or even worse the team on the pitch.

Because like you I am entitled to an opinion, if you can't accept that in the good faith it is offered then I am sorry but that's your problem not mine.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monsters mum[/bold] wrote: For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?[/p][/quote]Well to be honest and actually support you I didn't boo the team on the night but I really did feel like doing so, and I don't blame the ones who did. I never for one moment felt it was BRAG, just an understandable reaction from the real fans who attended the game and were bitterly disappointed in what, in my honest opinion was the worst display by a Rovers team in the 44 years I have been watching them. And through those long hard years, pre Jack Walker, I have seen some real crap, crap that makes this team look like world beaters, trust me on that. And for those of you who didn't go to the game, yes it really was that bad. The problem is that emotions run deep, Venky's screwed us up, no argument about that, but they only stuck the knife in through sheer, unbelievable, arrogance and incompetence. BRAG twisted the knife and while their initial intentions were honourable, that actually helped to disembowel the club. I hate BRAG for that, more than I hate Venky's, because Venky's simply didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing, how could they? BRAG are Rovers fans, some of us asked them to consider what they were doing before it was too late, all we received were threats and abuse, inside the ground and in the media. At least three opposing managers that I can remember, in consecutive games, Everton, Bolton and WBA were quite open at the time, they regretted doing it but they knew that if the could get BRAG and the rest of the the crowd concentrated on Kean and Venky's the team would disintegrate and it would be easy pickings. We lost those three games at home, for numskulls like JC Rishton that is a FACT.[/p][/quote]Owd Nick - there it is in black and white - "I hate BRAG more than I hate Venkys". You are showing your true colours now scummer boy. After everything Venkys have done to this club – that is a shocking thing for any Rovers fan to write. You absolve Venkys because they were "incompetant" So its fine for someone to take on the responsibility of BRFC ownership and then destroy it because they are too stupid or lazy to make proper checks and do their homework?? But for Rovers fans in the form of BRAG (of which I am not a member) to complain about their GROSS MISMANAGEMENT and RAPE of our football club is UNFORGIVABLE?? If no one had complained, then Venkys would have carried on with their gross mismanagement for much longer - never realised that ?? you utter tool !! As I have often accused you of being - you are a Venky apologist - nothing more, nothing less, a disciple of Paul Agnew, a disgrace to our great club. If it were up to you, Kean would still be manager, JA would still be stealing money from Venkys via dodgy transfers and no snowballs would have been thrown & the club would have lost 50% of its fans and 100% of its sponsors - but you'd prefer it because there would have been no disruption at matches Hang your head in shame you are an embarrassment to BRFC fans the world over[/p][/quote]JC, firstly I apologise for using the term numskull in reference to your good self, that was unacceptable but this article has opened old wounds, I also withdraw the word "hate", because that is too strong a word. But that is all I apologise for. Because like you I am entitled to an opinion. Let me set the record straight, I do not like Venky's or find what they did in the past acceptable, but I am a pragmatist and as such have to accept that they appear to be attempting to right the wrongs. If that makes me an apologist and scummer in your eyes then so be it. I don't like BRAG because I was threatened with violence on at least three occasions because I didn't like what was happening, on one particularly notable occasion, with my then 13 year old daughter standing beside me in tears I was told "Why don't you crawl under your f*****g stone, get cancer and die you f*****g c**t", because I simply asked one guy to tone the language he was using down. The simple fact that at the time I was being tested for testicular cancer wasn't known to him, but my daughter was more than aware of it, luckily I received the all clear a few days later, but I for one will never forget that day. Sort of puts your accusations of me being an apologist and a scummer in the shade doesn't it? Sticks and stones and all that jazz. As for fans demonstrating their anger with Venky's, Kean or whoever I don't have a problem with it, as long as it doesn't affect fans who don't agree with it or even worse the team on the pitch. Because like you I am entitled to an opinion, if you can't accept that in the good faith it is offered then I am sorry but that's your problem not mine. owd nick
  • Score: 0

9:46am Wed 19 Mar 14

Super_Clarets says...

24 points. Venky's 4ever.
24 points. Venky's 4ever. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -1

9:51am Wed 19 Mar 14

Riverside 7 says...

owd nick wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Dan, I agree with your comments about the Action Group, we certainly don’t want them raising their heads at Ewood again.

However, I want to take issue with you and many other Bowyer supporters who believe our inconsistency is due to the fact that we have a very young team.

You mention in your article about the ‘great deal of young, inexperienced players coming into the team’ and blame this for our inconsistency.

Well let’s look a bit deeper.
Out of the 14 players who took part in the game at Huddersfield on Saturday we had 9 aged 25 and over ; -

Robinson aged 34
Killgallon 30
Spurr 26
Williamson 31
Conway 28
Varney 31
Dunn 34
Gestede 25
Taylor 27

Another thing, whilst the club appears more stable than last year it couldn’t really get any worse could it – what with Kean, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton and Bowyer again.

Despite the managerial stability with Bowyer in charge since last March, before Saturday’s game we were just 1 point better off than at the same stage last season.

For me, given the number of new players Bowyer has brought into the club, this isn’t good enough and I really don’t think he is the person to lead us to promotion next season.
Not bad but I would take you to task on a couple of things.

Robinson was missing for most of the season pre Christmas.
Killgallon couldn't get in the team until Dann left.
Dunny doesn't play that many games in a season now.
Give you Spurr and Williamson.
Gestede, Conway and Varney are recent additions bringing necessary experience to the squad, something many of us were asking for in the run up to Christmas.
Taylor is in and out of the team, usually on the bench.

This squad is a work in progress,by it's very nature it has to be, we have used at least 35 players so far this season,that is the equivalent of just over 3 teams, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that we are going to get any level of consistency with such an unsettled team.

Comparison? - I stand to be corrected but I believe Burnley have used just 17 players all season, I think that Ings is their first serious injury this season, how many have we had?

On the whole I think GB has done a decent job so far, apart from his tactics that is and deserves to be given at least until Christmas to move on to the next stage.
Nick, don't forget that Killgallon replaced Scott Dann - age -27
and that Rudy Gestede has been at the club since November.

Burnley have been extremely lucky with injuries this year,and that is why they have only used so few players. Their luck will change though.

However, I think it is more than poor tactics from Bowyer.
It is the way he sets up a team to contain rather than to win games,
his lack of motivation and communication skills,
his poor use of substitutions,
his apparent dislike of any player with an ounce of creaivity.

Nick, GB reminds me of Nigel Clough at Derby.
'Non League Nigel' as he was known very slowly improved the Derby County year on year, but it took his dismissal and the appointment of McClaren to make the difference.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Dan, I agree with your comments about the Action Group, we certainly don’t want them raising their heads at Ewood again. However, I want to take issue with you and many other Bowyer supporters who believe our inconsistency is due to the fact that we have a very young team. You mention in your article about the ‘great deal of young, inexperienced players coming into the team’ and blame this for our inconsistency. Well let’s look a bit deeper. Out of the 14 players who took part in the game at Huddersfield on Saturday we had 9 aged 25 and over ; - Robinson aged 34 Killgallon 30 Spurr 26 Williamson 31 Conway 28 Varney 31 Dunn 34 Gestede 25 Taylor 27 Another thing, whilst the club appears more stable than last year it couldn’t really get any worse could it – what with Kean, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton and Bowyer again. Despite the managerial stability with Bowyer in charge since last March, before Saturday’s game we were just 1 point better off than at the same stage last season. For me, given the number of new players Bowyer has brought into the club, this isn’t good enough and I really don’t think he is the person to lead us to promotion next season.[/p][/quote]Not bad but I would take you to task on a couple of things. Robinson was missing for most of the season pre Christmas. Killgallon couldn't get in the team until Dann left. Dunny doesn't play that many games in a season now. Give you Spurr and Williamson. Gestede, Conway and Varney are recent additions bringing necessary experience to the squad, something many of us were asking for in the run up to Christmas. Taylor is in and out of the team, usually on the bench. This squad is a work in progress,by it's very nature it has to be, we have used at least 35 players so far this season,that is the equivalent of just over 3 teams, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that we are going to get any level of consistency with such an unsettled team. Comparison? - I stand to be corrected but I believe Burnley have used just 17 players all season, I think that Ings is their first serious injury this season, how many have we had? On the whole I think GB has done a decent job so far, apart from his tactics that is and deserves to be given at least until Christmas to move on to the next stage.[/p][/quote]Nick, don't forget that Killgallon replaced Scott Dann - age -27 and that Rudy Gestede has been at the club since November. Burnley have been extremely lucky with injuries this year,and that is why they have only used so few players. Their luck will change though. However, I think it is more than poor tactics from Bowyer. It is the way he sets up a team to contain rather than to win games, his lack of motivation and communication skills, his poor use of substitutions, his apparent dislike of any player with an ounce of creaivity. Nick, GB reminds me of Nigel Clough at Derby. 'Non League Nigel' as he was known very slowly improved the Derby County year on year, but it took his dismissal and the appointment of McClaren to make the difference. Riverside 7
  • Score: 1

9:59am Wed 19 Mar 14

owd nick says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Dan, I agree with your comments about the Action Group, we certainly don’t want them raising their heads at Ewood again.

However, I want to take issue with you and many other Bowyer supporters who believe our inconsistency is due to the fact that we have a very young team.

You mention in your article about the ‘great deal of young, inexperienced players coming into the team’ and blame this for our inconsistency.

Well let’s look a bit deeper.
Out of the 14 players who took part in the game at Huddersfield on Saturday we had 9 aged 25 and over ; -

Robinson aged 34
Killgallon 30
Spurr 26
Williamson 31
Conway 28
Varney 31
Dunn 34
Gestede 25
Taylor 27

Another thing, whilst the club appears more stable than last year it couldn’t really get any worse could it – what with Kean, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton and Bowyer again.

Despite the managerial stability with Bowyer in charge since last March, before Saturday’s game we were just 1 point better off than at the same stage last season.

For me, given the number of new players Bowyer has brought into the club, this isn’t good enough and I really don’t think he is the person to lead us to promotion next season.
Not bad but I would take you to task on a couple of things.

Robinson was missing for most of the season pre Christmas.
Killgallon couldn't get in the team until Dann left.
Dunny doesn't play that many games in a season now.
Give you Spurr and Williamson.
Gestede, Conway and Varney are recent additions bringing necessary experience to the squad, something many of us were asking for in the run up to Christmas.
Taylor is in and out of the team, usually on the bench.

This squad is a work in progress,by it's very nature it has to be, we have used at least 35 players so far this season,that is the equivalent of just over 3 teams, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that we are going to get any level of consistency with such an unsettled team.

Comparison? - I stand to be corrected but I believe Burnley have used just 17 players all season, I think that Ings is their first serious injury this season, how many have we had?

On the whole I think GB has done a decent job so far, apart from his tactics that is and deserves to be given at least until Christmas to move on to the next stage.
Nick, don't forget that Killgallon replaced Scott Dann - age -27
and that Rudy Gestede has been at the club since November.

Burnley have been extremely lucky with injuries this year,and that is why they have only used so few players. Their luck will change though.

However, I think it is more than poor tactics from Bowyer.
It is the way he sets up a team to contain rather than to win games,
his lack of motivation and communication skills,
his poor use of substitutions,
his apparent dislike of any player with an ounce of creaivity.

Nick, GB reminds me of Nigel Clough at Derby.
'Non League Nigel' as he was known very slowly improved the Derby County year on year, but it took his dismissal and the appointment of McClaren to make the difference.
That's fair comment regarding GB, probably said most of it myself throughout the season, the comparison with Nigel Clough is a pretty good one as well.

But while I remain as frustrated as most with his tactics, or lack of them, I do think we need to give him the chance to develop as a manager.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Dan, I agree with your comments about the Action Group, we certainly don’t want them raising their heads at Ewood again. However, I want to take issue with you and many other Bowyer supporters who believe our inconsistency is due to the fact that we have a very young team. You mention in your article about the ‘great deal of young, inexperienced players coming into the team’ and blame this for our inconsistency. Well let’s look a bit deeper. Out of the 14 players who took part in the game at Huddersfield on Saturday we had 9 aged 25 and over ; - Robinson aged 34 Killgallon 30 Spurr 26 Williamson 31 Conway 28 Varney 31 Dunn 34 Gestede 25 Taylor 27 Another thing, whilst the club appears more stable than last year it couldn’t really get any worse could it – what with Kean, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton and Bowyer again. Despite the managerial stability with Bowyer in charge since last March, before Saturday’s game we were just 1 point better off than at the same stage last season. For me, given the number of new players Bowyer has brought into the club, this isn’t good enough and I really don’t think he is the person to lead us to promotion next season.[/p][/quote]Not bad but I would take you to task on a couple of things. Robinson was missing for most of the season pre Christmas. Killgallon couldn't get in the team until Dann left. Dunny doesn't play that many games in a season now. Give you Spurr and Williamson. Gestede, Conway and Varney are recent additions bringing necessary experience to the squad, something many of us were asking for in the run up to Christmas. Taylor is in and out of the team, usually on the bench. This squad is a work in progress,by it's very nature it has to be, we have used at least 35 players so far this season,that is the equivalent of just over 3 teams, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that we are going to get any level of consistency with such an unsettled team. Comparison? - I stand to be corrected but I believe Burnley have used just 17 players all season, I think that Ings is their first serious injury this season, how many have we had? On the whole I think GB has done a decent job so far, apart from his tactics that is and deserves to be given at least until Christmas to move on to the next stage.[/p][/quote]Nick, don't forget that Killgallon replaced Scott Dann - age -27 and that Rudy Gestede has been at the club since November. Burnley have been extremely lucky with injuries this year,and that is why they have only used so few players. Their luck will change though. However, I think it is more than poor tactics from Bowyer. It is the way he sets up a team to contain rather than to win games, his lack of motivation and communication skills, his poor use of substitutions, his apparent dislike of any player with an ounce of creaivity. Nick, GB reminds me of Nigel Clough at Derby. 'Non League Nigel' as he was known very slowly improved the Derby County year on year, but it took his dismissal and the appointment of McClaren to make the difference.[/p][/quote]That's fair comment regarding GB, probably said most of it myself throughout the season, the comparison with Nigel Clough is a pretty good one as well. But while I remain as frustrated as most with his tactics, or lack of them, I do think we need to give him the chance to develop as a manager. owd nick
  • Score: 0

10:12am Wed 19 Mar 14

cruzy_cruz says...

Really Dan? What sham of a article. What have Venkys done to deserve you being their tub thumper othe than lower their expecations markedly from last season which is allowing Bowyer to sleepwalk the club into 50 years of mediocrity?

The man has all no tactical nous, the charisma of a rice cake and apart from a few signings that have been average (yes Cairney, Spurr, Gestede and Evans have been average.....nothing more) the rest are what I'd expect 'the likes of Bournemouth' to sign, as you eloquently like to dismiss them.

You may not like the Action group. Personally I don't take any notice of them but I do agree that the disgraceful owners have had it too easy since relegation and they need to be told the truth. That they are universally despised. This once proud club is on it's knees with debts up to it's eyeballs, the manager is a grey talentless fawning backside kisser and the local press are all spineless. (who can forget the LET's "time to go Steve" headline and then went back to being the clubs PR mouthpiece)

Get your head out of your rear end Dan, stop spouting meaningless diatribe like stability (whilst results are no better than last season) and do some proper investigative journalism.

WHY have Venkys NEVER been brought to book and why did your paper even let Derek Shaw off with his mind numbing incompetence? Having met Derek I'd even go as far as to say you could tackle him Dan......just.
Really Dan? What sham of a article. What have Venkys done to deserve you being their tub thumper othe than lower their expecations markedly from last season which is allowing Bowyer to sleepwalk the club into 50 years of mediocrity? The man has all no tactical nous, the charisma of a rice cake and apart from a few signings that have been average (yes Cairney, Spurr, Gestede and Evans have been average.....nothing more) the rest are what I'd expect 'the likes of Bournemouth' to sign, as you eloquently like to dismiss them. You may not like the Action group. Personally I don't take any notice of them but I do agree that the disgraceful owners have had it too easy since relegation and they need to be told the truth. That they are universally despised. This once proud club is on it's knees with debts up to it's eyeballs, the manager is a grey talentless fawning backside kisser and the local press are all spineless. (who can forget the LET's "time to go Steve" headline and then went back to being the clubs PR mouthpiece) Get your head out of your rear end Dan, stop spouting meaningless diatribe like stability (whilst results are no better than last season) and do some proper investigative journalism. WHY have Venkys NEVER been brought to book and why did your paper even let Derek Shaw off with his mind numbing incompetence? Having met Derek I'd even go as far as to say you could tackle him Dan......just. cruzy_cruz
  • Score: 1

10:51am Wed 19 Mar 14

owd nick says...

cruzy_cruz wrote:
Really Dan? What sham of a article. What have Venkys done to deserve you being their tub thumper othe than lower their expecations markedly from last season which is allowing Bowyer to sleepwalk the club into 50 years of mediocrity?

The man has all no tactical nous, the charisma of a rice cake and apart from a few signings that have been average (yes Cairney, Spurr, Gestede and Evans have been average.....nothing more) the rest are what I'd expect 'the likes of Bournemouth' to sign, as you eloquently like to dismiss them.

You may not like the Action group. Personally I don't take any notice of them but I do agree that the disgraceful owners have had it too easy since relegation and they need to be told the truth. That they are universally despised. This once proud club is on it's knees with debts up to it's eyeballs, the manager is a grey talentless fawning backside kisser and the local press are all spineless. (who can forget the LET's "time to go Steve" headline and then went back to being the clubs PR mouthpiece)

Get your head out of your rear end Dan, stop spouting meaningless diatribe like stability (whilst results are no better than last season) and do some proper investigative journalism.

WHY have Venkys NEVER been brought to book and why did your paper even let Derek Shaw off with his mind numbing incompetence? Having met Derek I'd even go as far as to say you could tackle him Dan......just.
Now that's what I call a rant! lol.

Excellent.
[quote][p][bold]cruzy_cruz[/bold] wrote: Really Dan? What sham of a article. What have Venkys done to deserve you being their tub thumper othe than lower their expecations markedly from last season which is allowing Bowyer to sleepwalk the club into 50 years of mediocrity? The man has all no tactical nous, the charisma of a rice cake and apart from a few signings that have been average (yes Cairney, Spurr, Gestede and Evans have been average.....nothing more) the rest are what I'd expect 'the likes of Bournemouth' to sign, as you eloquently like to dismiss them. You may not like the Action group. Personally I don't take any notice of them but I do agree that the disgraceful owners have had it too easy since relegation and they need to be told the truth. That they are universally despised. This once proud club is on it's knees with debts up to it's eyeballs, the manager is a grey talentless fawning backside kisser and the local press are all spineless. (who can forget the LET's "time to go Steve" headline and then went back to being the clubs PR mouthpiece) Get your head out of your rear end Dan, stop spouting meaningless diatribe like stability (whilst results are no better than last season) and do some proper investigative journalism. WHY have Venkys NEVER been brought to book and why did your paper even let Derek Shaw off with his mind numbing incompetence? Having met Derek I'd even go as far as to say you could tackle him Dan......just.[/p][/quote]Now that's what I call a rant! lol. Excellent. owd nick
  • Score: 0

12:31pm Wed 19 Mar 14

glynners says...

Malky Mackay is still unemployed, thats someone that we should be targeting.

Appreciate everything Bowyer has done in settling things down but I think even he knows that this would be a short term measure. If he steps down once the season is over I think 99% of Rovers fans will look on his tenure with great effection, kind of a Tony Parkes figure... if it wernt for those over the hill doing so well I believe majority of fans would have accepted just missing the playoffs as a great step forward. However, if he attempts another season and gets similar performances then all that goodwill will quickly disappear

Speaking bluntly he doesnt appear to possess the tactical knowledge or insight to effect a game once its started, its been plain to see all season long. Opposition change shape / formation / personnel and start to control the games & the default reaction is to drop deep and go over the top

Once again, I thank Bowyer for the job well done this season, but if we realistically want to move forward, someone like Mackay should be brought in before he's snapped up by one of the other challengers for next season
Malky Mackay is still unemployed, thats someone that we should be targeting. Appreciate everything Bowyer has done in settling things down but I think even he knows that this would be a short term measure. If he steps down once the season is over I think 99% of Rovers fans will look on his tenure with great effection, kind of a Tony Parkes figure... if it wernt for those over the hill doing so well I believe majority of fans would have accepted just missing the playoffs as a great step forward. However, if he attempts another season and gets similar performances then all that goodwill will quickly disappear Speaking bluntly he doesnt appear to possess the tactical knowledge or insight to effect a game once its started, its been plain to see all season long. Opposition change shape / formation / personnel and start to control the games & the default reaction is to drop deep and go over the top Once again, I thank Bowyer for the job well done this season, but if we realistically want to move forward, someone like Mackay should be brought in before he's snapped up by one of the other challengers for next season glynners
  • Score: 5

12:57pm Wed 19 Mar 14

crankitup says...

a word of advice Dan.....wind your bloody neck in....what do you know about what us fans have had to endure?

writing a few words on a subject doesn't make you an expert, it doesn't make you hurt like we've hurt, i wasn't part of the protest group but i did protest, and if i'm honest i would gladly wear a Venkys out T shirt or carry a banner.....the truth is i as many others don't want the Cowboys from India running our club....they should stick to what they know best....CHICKEN.....
..who do you think you are...

we had the national press on our back back in the day....may be that's your problem pal.....may be you're national reporter wanna be..

any respect i had for you has gone....you're just jumping on the band wagon of the stay positive crew..

i agree GB has steadied the good ship Rovers.....but is he a good enough manager....in my opinion NO...

and i see you're singing a couple of classics from the old GB song sheet..."we've got a young squad" followed by another classic "they're still gelling"....two classics Dan ....well done....so imaginative.
a word of advice Dan.....wind your bloody neck in....what do you know about what us fans have had to endure? writing a few words on a subject doesn't make you an expert, it doesn't make you hurt like we've hurt, i wasn't part of the protest group but i did protest, and if i'm honest i would gladly wear a Venkys out T shirt or carry a banner.....the truth is i as many others don't want the Cowboys from India running our club....they should stick to what they know best....CHICKEN..... ..who do you think you are... we had the national press on our back back in the day....may be that's your problem pal.....may be you're national reporter wanna be.. any respect i had for you has gone....you're just jumping on the band wagon of the stay positive crew.. i agree GB has steadied the good ship Rovers.....but is he a good enough manager....in my opinion NO... and i see you're singing a couple of classics from the old GB song sheet..."we've got a young squad" followed by another classic "they're still gelling"....two classics Dan ....well done....so imaginative. crankitup
  • Score: 6

1:07pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Wild Rover says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Monsters mum wrote:
For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?
Well to be honest and actually support you I didn't boo the team on the night but I really did feel like doing so, and I don't blame the ones who did.

I never for one moment felt it was BRAG, just an understandable reaction from the real fans who attended the game and were bitterly disappointed in what, in my honest opinion was the worst display by a Rovers team in the 44 years I have been watching them.

And through those long hard years, pre Jack Walker, I have seen some real crap, crap that makes this team look like world beaters, trust me on that.

And for those of you who didn't go to the game, yes it really was that bad.

The problem is that emotions run deep, Venky's screwed us up, no argument about that, but they only stuck the knife in through sheer, unbelievable, arrogance and incompetence.

BRAG twisted the knife and while their initial intentions were honourable, that actually helped to disembowel the club.

I hate BRAG for that, more than I hate Venky's, because Venky's simply didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing, how could they?

BRAG are Rovers fans, some of us asked them to consider what they were doing before it was too late, all we received were threats and abuse, inside the ground and in the media.

At least three opposing managers that I can remember, in consecutive games, Everton, Bolton and WBA were quite open at the time, they regretted doing it but they knew that if the could get BRAG and the rest of the the crowd concentrated on Kean and Venky's the team would disintegrate and it would be easy pickings.

We lost those three games at home, for numskulls like JC Rishton that is a FACT.
Owd Nick - there it is in black and white - "I hate BRAG more than I hate Venkys".

You are showing your true colours now scummer boy.

After everything Venkys have done to this club – that is a shocking thing for any Rovers fan to write.

You absolve Venkys because they were "incompetant"

So its fine for someone to take on the responsibility of BRFC ownership and then destroy it because they are too stupid or lazy to make proper checks and do their homework??

But for Rovers fans in the form of BRAG (of which I am not a member) to complain about their GROSS MISMANAGEMENT and RAPE of our football club is UNFORGIVABLE??

If no one had complained, then Venkys would have carried on with their gross mismanagement for much longer - never realised that ?? you utter tool !!

As I have often accused you of being - you are a Venky apologist - nothing more, nothing less, a disciple of Paul Agnew, a disgrace to our great club.

If it were up to you, Kean would still be manager, JA would still be stealing money from Venkys via dodgy transfers and no snowballs would have been thrown & the club would have lost 50% of its fans and 100% of its sponsors - but you'd prefer it because there would have been no disruption at matches

Hang your head in shame you are an embarrassment to BRFC fans the world over
Said JC the racist troll who attends no matches....
As it goes, I know Dan Clough , and he is a 100% comitted Rover through and through. I would rather listen to Dan than take note of a bunch of wannebees that jumped up the tumbril when it suited.
Protests create negative energy, end of. Lets move, the I will never forgive brigade are just self destructive
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monsters mum[/bold] wrote: For the record, as far as the Action Group are concerned I am wondering where Mr. Clough has got his information. No one from them are advocating starting protesting again. As far as I know only one person on their facebook page actually suggested it and was not agreed with. As for the booing (Bournmouth game) I disagree with the booing of the team and can't believe that some on here think that everyone who booed that night was siding with the action group. Hasslem Hasslem who are you to call anyone a toss pot?[/p][/quote]Well to be honest and actually support you I didn't boo the team on the night but I really did feel like doing so, and I don't blame the ones who did. I never for one moment felt it was BRAG, just an understandable reaction from the real fans who attended the game and were bitterly disappointed in what, in my honest opinion was the worst display by a Rovers team in the 44 years I have been watching them. And through those long hard years, pre Jack Walker, I have seen some real crap, crap that makes this team look like world beaters, trust me on that. And for those of you who didn't go to the game, yes it really was that bad. The problem is that emotions run deep, Venky's screwed us up, no argument about that, but they only stuck the knife in through sheer, unbelievable, arrogance and incompetence. BRAG twisted the knife and while their initial intentions were honourable, that actually helped to disembowel the club. I hate BRAG for that, more than I hate Venky's, because Venky's simply didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing, how could they? BRAG are Rovers fans, some of us asked them to consider what they were doing before it was too late, all we received were threats and abuse, inside the ground and in the media. At least three opposing managers that I can remember, in consecutive games, Everton, Bolton and WBA were quite open at the time, they regretted doing it but they knew that if the could get BRAG and the rest of the the crowd concentrated on Kean and Venky's the team would disintegrate and it would be easy pickings. We lost those three games at home, for numskulls like JC Rishton that is a FACT.[/p][/quote]Owd Nick - there it is in black and white - "I hate BRAG more than I hate Venkys". You are showing your true colours now scummer boy. After everything Venkys have done to this club – that is a shocking thing for any Rovers fan to write. You absolve Venkys because they were "incompetant" So its fine for someone to take on the responsibility of BRFC ownership and then destroy it because they are too stupid or lazy to make proper checks and do their homework?? But for Rovers fans in the form of BRAG (of which I am not a member) to complain about their GROSS MISMANAGEMENT and RAPE of our football club is UNFORGIVABLE?? If no one had complained, then Venkys would have carried on with their gross mismanagement for much longer - never realised that ?? you utter tool !! As I have often accused you of being - you are a Venky apologist - nothing more, nothing less, a disciple of Paul Agnew, a disgrace to our great club. If it were up to you, Kean would still be manager, JA would still be stealing money from Venkys via dodgy transfers and no snowballs would have been thrown & the club would have lost 50% of its fans and 100% of its sponsors - but you'd prefer it because there would have been no disruption at matches Hang your head in shame you are an embarrassment to BRFC fans the world over[/p][/quote]Said JC the racist troll who attends no matches.... As it goes, I know Dan Clough , and he is a 100% comitted Rover through and through. I would rather listen to Dan than take note of a bunch of wannebees that jumped up the tumbril when it suited. Protests create negative energy, end of. Lets move, the I will never forgive brigade are just self destructive Wild Rover
  • Score: -3

1:07pm Wed 19 Mar 14

dixie.normous says...

Action Group against Venkys.....Yes (and after the last three season I don’t know how the let can write such an article. Maybe the reporter has not been watching the club for as long as the fans have and maybe he missed the good times and how well we had been run to stay in the PL as a well established team. I don’t know. But the fans are entitled to their opinions.

Action Group against Bowyer.....No (with no budget and cutting the wage bill he has brought stability to the club)

I would also like to see some in-depth reporting to what is going on in India. Yes they have been quiet and compared to the monthly ‘outlandish statements’ over the last two season Beckham, Ronaldinho, Do teams get relegated from the PL to name just a few this has been good for the club. But as fans we need to know their thoughts on the club going forward, the debt, how are they going to deal with the FFP.LET with your resources these are the questions you should be asking?
Action Group against Venkys.....Yes (and after the last three season I don’t know how the let can write such an article. Maybe the reporter has not been watching the club for as long as the fans have and maybe he missed the good times and how well we had been run to stay in the PL as a well established team. I don’t know. But the fans are entitled to their opinions. Action Group against Bowyer.....No (with no budget and cutting the wage bill he has brought stability to the club) I would also like to see some in-depth reporting to what is going on in India. Yes they have been quiet and compared to the monthly ‘outlandish statements’ over the last two season Beckham, Ronaldinho, Do teams get relegated from the PL to name just a few this has been good for the club. But as fans we need to know their thoughts on the club going forward, the debt, how are they going to deal with the FFP.LET with your resources these are the questions you should be asking? dixie.normous
  • Score: 3

2:12pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Dukes says...

Action Group come out yet again, Their should blame them self , I remember the way you lot was saying shebby was great and would listen. Its easy to target Venkys here must blame lay with you lot to.

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Action Group come out yet again, Their should blame them self , I remember the way you lot was saying shebby was great and would listen. Its easy to target Venkys here must blame lay with you lot to. . Dukes
  • Score: -1

2:29pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Super_Clarets says...

Be honest girls, you're after protesting because we beat you. That's all there is to it.

The tears have dried and now you clowns want someone to blame...

What a shambles.
Be honest girls, you're after protesting because we beat you. That's all there is to it. The tears have dried and now you clowns want someone to blame... What a shambles. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -2

3:13pm Wed 19 Mar 14

mammamiauk says...

dixie.normous wrote:
Action Group against Venkys.....Yes (and after the last three season I don’t know how the let can write such an article. Maybe the reporter has not been watching the club for as long as the fans have and maybe he missed the good times and how well we had been run to stay in the PL as a well established team. I don’t know. But the fans are entitled to their opinions.

Action Group against Bowyer.....No (with no budget and cutting the wage bill he has brought stability to the club)

I would also like to see some in-depth reporting to what is going on in India. Yes they have been quiet and compared to the monthly ‘outlandish statements’ over the last two season Beckham, Ronaldinho, Do teams get relegated from the PL to name just a few this has been good for the club. But as fans we need to know their thoughts on the club going forward, the debt, how are they going to deal with the FFP.LET with your resources these are the questions you should be asking?
I totally agree with you with regard to a NO action group against Bowyer for the reasons mentioned.

As for 'in-depth reporting' on what is going on in India, this brings us to our new Director of Communications, Alan Myers - I thought he was employed to engage with the fans and we have heard nothing. What on earth is he doing then??
[quote][p][bold]dixie.normous[/bold] wrote: Action Group against Venkys.....Yes (and after the last three season I don’t know how the let can write such an article. Maybe the reporter has not been watching the club for as long as the fans have and maybe he missed the good times and how well we had been run to stay in the PL as a well established team. I don’t know. But the fans are entitled to their opinions. Action Group against Bowyer.....No (with no budget and cutting the wage bill he has brought stability to the club) I would also like to see some in-depth reporting to what is going on in India. Yes they have been quiet and compared to the monthly ‘outlandish statements’ over the last two season Beckham, Ronaldinho, Do teams get relegated from the PL to name just a few this has been good for the club. But as fans we need to know their thoughts on the club going forward, the debt, how are they going to deal with the FFP.LET with your resources these are the questions you should be asking?[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you with regard to a NO action group against Bowyer for the reasons mentioned. As for 'in-depth reporting' on what is going on in India, this brings us to our new Director of Communications, Alan Myers - I thought he was employed to engage with the fans and we have heard nothing. What on earth is he doing then?? mammamiauk
  • Score: 3

3:32pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Rob Cromton says...

What a shameful piece on writing this is Mr Clough, it is almost as though we are back to the dark days of Kean, Agnew and Co. Once again our local newspaper launches an ill-informed attack on the supporters and the papers paying customers.

Is this a deliberate attempt to cause unrest and divide in our depleted fan base? It is a shame after what has happened to our club that the supporters loudest voice the Lancashire Telegraph, ignores the real problems of what happened at Ewood and constantly berates the supporters.

Now don't get me wrong, I'am not a supporter of the Action Group or any of the fans groups, I'am a supporter of Blackburn Rovers. I was against the protests all along but I could understand why they took place. Maybe just maybe the Lancashire Telegraph could have helped prevent these by reporting responsibly and not simply paying lip service to the PR Guru's at Ewood Park.

The group was never backward in coming forwards, hell you could not get away from them and their "press releases" at one point, so is this an official group stance? are we really going back to the dark days of protests every week or simply the views of Mr Clough?

Could some from the Action Group answer a question? From my seat in the Jack Walker stand each week, I see the big screen listing an Action Group as sponsor of Rovers captain Grant Hanley, is this the same group who organised the protests? If so then I commend you for growing from a ram shackle protest group into a club / player sponsor, it shows to me that you all have the best interests of our club at heart.

If the editor of the LT reads these comments my message to all fans is
Support Rovers
Back Bowyer
Do not forgive Venky's or their apologists the Dan Clough
What a shameful piece on writing this is Mr Clough, it is almost as though we are back to the dark days of Kean, Agnew and Co. Once again our local newspaper launches an ill-informed attack on the supporters and the papers paying customers. Is this a deliberate attempt to cause unrest and divide in our depleted fan base? It is a shame after what has happened to our club that the supporters loudest voice the Lancashire Telegraph, ignores the real problems of what happened at Ewood and constantly berates the supporters. Now don't get me wrong, I'am not a supporter of the Action Group or any of the fans groups, I'am a supporter of Blackburn Rovers. I was against the protests all along but I could understand why they took place. Maybe just maybe the Lancashire Telegraph could have helped prevent these by reporting responsibly and not simply paying lip service to the PR Guru's at Ewood Park. The group was never backward in coming forwards, hell you could not get away from them and their "press releases" at one point, so is this an official group stance? are we really going back to the dark days of protests every week or simply the views of Mr Clough? Could some from the Action Group answer a question? From my seat in the Jack Walker stand each week, I see the big screen listing an Action Group as sponsor of Rovers captain Grant Hanley, is this the same group who organised the protests? If so then I commend you for growing from a ram shackle protest group into a club / player sponsor, it shows to me that you all have the best interests of our club at heart. If the editor of the LT reads these comments my message to all fans is Support Rovers Back Bowyer Do not forgive Venky's or their apologists the Dan Clough Rob Cromton
  • Score: 2

3:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

McClaret says...

owd nick wrote:
McClaret wrote:
Why should Bournemouth be 'Dispatched with relative ease'? Hardly the divisions whipping boys or am I missing something. Poor reporting and disrespectful of a team all of 2 places and 3 points behind Blackburn in the league.
Actually agree, on the night Bournemouth were by far the better team in every department, the only Rovers player to stand out was Conway.

In fact they were a far better team than Burnley were a few days earlier, a few of us commented on the fact that Howe actually set up the bulk of the team that Dyche inherited at Burnley.
Completely right he did, EH can obviously spot a forward. Defensively his tactics were woeful at times but overall he did a very good rebuilding job for me.
Bit like Cotterill did before Coyle came in and took his team up. Pleased to see Cotterill doing a good job at Bristol City.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: Why should Bournemouth be 'Dispatched with relative ease'? Hardly the divisions whipping boys or am I missing something. Poor reporting and disrespectful of a team all of 2 places and 3 points behind Blackburn in the league.[/p][/quote]Actually agree, on the night Bournemouth were by far the better team in every department, the only Rovers player to stand out was Conway. In fact they were a far better team than Burnley were a few days earlier, a few of us commented on the fact that Howe actually set up the bulk of the team that Dyche inherited at Burnley.[/p][/quote]Completely right he did, EH can obviously spot a forward. Defensively his tactics were woeful at times but overall he did a very good rebuilding job for me. Bit like Cotterill did before Coyle came in and took his team up. Pleased to see Cotterill doing a good job at Bristol City. McClaret
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Wed 19 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Rob Cromton wrote:
What a shameful piece on writing this is Mr Clough, it is almost as though we are back to the dark days of Kean, Agnew and Co. Once again our local newspaper launches an ill-informed attack on the supporters and the papers paying customers.

Is this a deliberate attempt to cause unrest and divide in our depleted fan base? It is a shame after what has happened to our club that the supporters loudest voice the Lancashire Telegraph, ignores the real problems of what happened at Ewood and constantly berates the supporters.

Now don't get me wrong, I'am not a supporter of the Action Group or any of the fans groups, I'am a supporter of Blackburn Rovers. I was against the protests all along but I could understand why they took place. Maybe just maybe the Lancashire Telegraph could have helped prevent these by reporting responsibly and not simply paying lip service to the PR Guru's at Ewood Park.

The group was never backward in coming forwards, hell you could not get away from them and their "press releases" at one point, so is this an official group stance? are we really going back to the dark days of protests every week or simply the views of Mr Clough?

Could some from the Action Group answer a question? From my seat in the Jack Walker stand each week, I see the big screen listing an Action Group as sponsor of Rovers captain Grant Hanley, is this the same group who organised the protests? If so then I commend you for growing from a ram shackle protest group into a club / player sponsor, it shows to me that you all have the best interests of our club at heart.

If the editor of the LT reads these comments my message to all fans is
Support Rovers
Back Bowyer
Do not forgive Venky's or their apologists the Dan Clough
don't talk tosh
[quote][p][bold]Rob Cromton[/bold] wrote: What a shameful piece on writing this is Mr Clough, it is almost as though we are back to the dark days of Kean, Agnew and Co. Once again our local newspaper launches an ill-informed attack on the supporters and the papers paying customers. Is this a deliberate attempt to cause unrest and divide in our depleted fan base? It is a shame after what has happened to our club that the supporters loudest voice the Lancashire Telegraph, ignores the real problems of what happened at Ewood and constantly berates the supporters. Now don't get me wrong, I'am not a supporter of the Action Group or any of the fans groups, I'am a supporter of Blackburn Rovers. I was against the protests all along but I could understand why they took place. Maybe just maybe the Lancashire Telegraph could have helped prevent these by reporting responsibly and not simply paying lip service to the PR Guru's at Ewood Park. The group was never backward in coming forwards, hell you could not get away from them and their "press releases" at one point, so is this an official group stance? are we really going back to the dark days of protests every week or simply the views of Mr Clough? Could some from the Action Group answer a question? From my seat in the Jack Walker stand each week, I see the big screen listing an Action Group as sponsor of Rovers captain Grant Hanley, is this the same group who organised the protests? If so then I commend you for growing from a ram shackle protest group into a club / player sponsor, it shows to me that you all have the best interests of our club at heart. If the editor of the LT reads these comments my message to all fans is Support Rovers Back Bowyer Do not forgive Venky's or their apologists the Dan Clough[/p][/quote]don't talk tosh hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -1

8:08am Thu 20 Mar 14

bburnrover says...

We obviously require a new owner as the Venkeys do not understand our game and never will they have a different mind set than the Rovers fans.GB has settled a sinking ship but has he plugged all the leaks I don't believe he has.
We have had a mediocre season depending on your aspirations it does not look to me like we will ever return to the Premiership unless its for the odd one season similar to Burnley ,Cardiff,etc etc as smaller clubs cannot afford the 20 million pound players needed to survive at that level.
We obviously require a new owner as the Venkeys do not understand our game and never will they have a different mind set than the Rovers fans.GB has settled a sinking ship but has he plugged all the leaks I don't believe he has. We have had a mediocre season depending on your aspirations it does not look to me like we will ever return to the Premiership unless its for the odd one season similar to Burnley ,Cardiff,etc etc as smaller clubs cannot afford the 20 million pound players needed to survive at that level. bburnrover
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Thu 20 Mar 14

FMROVR says...

Isolated comments about getting out the banners again taken out of context i fear.
Isolated comments about getting out the banners again taken out of context i fear. FMROVR
  • Score: 1

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