Simon Garner column: Things are looking up at Ewood

This Is Lancashire: Gary Bowyer Gary Bowyer

AS we approach the end of the year I think it’s safe to say that things on the field have definitely got better for Blackburn Rovers.

Having a settled manager, which they badly needed last season, has been a massive help.

And I think Gary Bowyer is doing great. He had a lot of work to do when he first took over the club on a permanent basis.

There was a lot of dead wood that needed moving out.

He tried his best to do that – and I thought he did it well – while at the same time he had to bring a batch of new players in.

And the players he has brought in, along with ones who have remained, are certainly playing for him.

They are taking on board what Gary wants them to do and they are working really, really hard.

I’ve said it before but that is the big difference for me – that work ethic for the manager, the club and the supporters.

I don’t think Blackburn had that last season.

That said it didn’t help the fact that the players didn’t know what manager they would be working with from one week to the next.

As a footballer you have to try and rise above things like that and give your best in every game.

But if you are having as many managerial changes as Blackburn had last season you would be become a bit disillusioned and confused by it all.

Thankfully that’s not the case now – and the club is better off for it.

Having Gary here has settled it all down.

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4:50pm Fri 27 Dec 13

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Why does he think he's so special? There's tens of thousands of people like him in Burnley.
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4:56pm Fri 27 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

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[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2497671/Typist-TWELV E-fingers-hopes-work -Britain-turned-50-s ecretarial-jobs-Indi a.html Why does he think he's so special? There's tens of thousands of people like him in Burnley.[/p][/quote]Many fingers make light work. You're not mugging me off that easily

5:03pm Fri 27 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

Well Simon, if you think things are improving just wait until you get to the top of the hill and see what's waiting for you on the other side. A down ward struggle with your only scoring striker gone, another one on the verge of a prison sentence and no ability to buy a replacement because you're banned from doing so. Then there is the deminishing parachute payments and fines for non compilence with FFP and the ever looming spectre of the Venky's bailing out and taking their loan with them.

Oh yes, things are without question improving and the good times are just around the corner!
Well Simon, if you think things are improving just wait until you get to the top of the hill and see what's waiting for you on the other side. A down ward struggle with your only scoring striker gone, another one on the verge of a prison sentence and no ability to buy a replacement because you're banned from doing so. Then there is the deminishing parachute payments and fines for non compilence with FFP and the ever looming spectre of the Venky's bailing out and taking their loan with them. Oh yes, things are without question improving and the good times are just around the corner! You're not mugging me off that easily

5:17pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
Well Simon, if you think things are improving just wait until you get to the top of the hill and see what's waiting for you on the other side. A down ward struggle with your only scoring striker gone, another one on the verge of a prison sentence and no ability to buy a replacement because you're banned from doing so. Then there is the deminishing parachute payments and fines for non compilence with FFP and the ever looming spectre of the Venky's bailing out and taking their loan with them.

Oh yes, things are without question improving and the good times are just around the corner!
When did we get banned from signing players?
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: Well Simon, if you think things are improving just wait until you get to the top of the hill and see what's waiting for you on the other side. A down ward struggle with your only scoring striker gone, another one on the verge of a prison sentence and no ability to buy a replacement because you're banned from doing so. Then there is the deminishing parachute payments and fines for non compilence with FFP and the ever looming spectre of the Venky's bailing out and taking their loan with them. Oh yes, things are without question improving and the good times are just around the corner![/p][/quote]When did we get banned from signing players? Stone Island:

6:23pm Fri 27 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

Stone Island: wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
Well Simon, if you think things are improving just wait until you get to the top of the hill and see what's waiting for you on the other side. A down ward struggle with your only scoring striker gone, another one on the verge of a prison sentence and no ability to buy a replacement because you're banned from doing so. Then there is the deminishing parachute payments and fines for non compilence with FFP and the ever looming spectre of the Venky's bailing out and taking their loan with them.

Oh yes, things are without question improving and the good times are just around the corner!
When did we get banned from signing players?
It's inevitable Stoner, you lot need to get your heads around that ASAP !

You should be desperately trying to nail Crainey down cos he might be the last one through the door.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: Well Simon, if you think things are improving just wait until you get to the top of the hill and see what's waiting for you on the other side. A down ward struggle with your only scoring striker gone, another one on the verge of a prison sentence and no ability to buy a replacement because you're banned from doing so. Then there is the deminishing parachute payments and fines for non compilence with FFP and the ever looming spectre of the Venky's bailing out and taking their loan with them. Oh yes, things are without question improving and the good times are just around the corner![/p][/quote]When did we get banned from signing players?[/p][/quote]It's inevitable Stoner, you lot need to get your heads around that ASAP ! You should be desperately trying to nail Crainey down cos he might be the last one through the door. You're not mugging me off that easily

7:38pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

Well Mugsy, were back in our trenches now sooo...
Listen up pal, any embargo is twelve months away yet and you can only be punished once for the same offence so scary stories about fines dont wash
Next up, Rhodes is going nowhere, he is not good enough for the Prem and may never be. Next, if he does go silly money comes in for GB to get a replacement and a good CM which we need.
Kinda win win really
I would rather keep Old Dusty but some of my fellow fans are becoming disillusioned with him as he has his limitations
We had a Boxing Day party last night . All of our footy crew and the debate was Rhodes v Shearer. No contest of course but then it turned to Rhodes or no Rhodes
Quite surprising how many said sell, and we are mainly wise old football men
So bring on the scare stories pal, no wucking furries
How did your lads do btw?_.
Half the season gone, we are sneaking up on you!
Well Mugsy, were back in our trenches now sooo... Listen up pal, any embargo is twelve months away yet and you can only be punished once for the same offence so scary stories about fines dont wash Next up, Rhodes is going nowhere, he is not good enough for the Prem and may never be. Next, if he does go silly money comes in for GB to get a replacement and a good CM which we need. Kinda win win really I would rather keep Old Dusty but some of my fellow fans are becoming disillusioned with him as he has his limitations We had a Boxing Day party last night . All of our footy crew and the debate was Rhodes v Shearer. No contest of course but then it turned to Rhodes or no Rhodes Quite surprising how many said sell, and we are mainly wise old football men So bring on the scare stories pal, no wucking furries How did your lads do btw?_. Half the season gone, we are sneaking up on you! Wild Rover

8:21pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Tom F. says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Who the f u c k is Simon G.?
Absolute disgrace and not from this planet!
GB youth TEAM coach is midtable with Players like Rhodes (a steve kean signing by the way) and without his form, rovers would be bottom.
Just to let you remember Mr G., Keano left the club on a direct Promotion Spot!!!
You are absolutely clueless!!!!!!!!
What does the F stand for in your username? Is it F***wit?
A bit stoned on the Island?
TOO many dates you went on with your Sister,...mate?
Go and Kiss GBs a r s e!
I think you'll find, that it's you Burnley lot that get it on with your sisters.
As said before, you smoke TOO much mate.
Leave our club alone and take f.... Youth Team coach GB with you.
You both are better Off with clarets :-)
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Who the f u c k is Simon G.? Absolute disgrace and not from this planet! GB youth TEAM coach is midtable with Players like Rhodes (a steve kean signing by the way) and without his form, rovers would be bottom. Just to let you remember Mr G., Keano left the club on a direct Promotion Spot!!! You are absolutely clueless!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]What does the F stand for in your username? Is it F***wit?[/p][/quote]A bit stoned on the Island? TOO many dates you went on with your Sister,...mate? Go and Kiss GBs a r s e![/p][/quote]I think you'll find, that it's you Burnley lot that get it on with your sisters.[/p][/quote]As said before, you smoke TOO much mate. Leave our club alone and take f.... Youth Team coach GB with you. You both are better Off with clarets :-) Tom F.

8:38pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

Tom F. wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Who the f u c k is Simon G.?
Absolute disgrace and not from this planet!
GB youth TEAM coach is midtable with Players like Rhodes (a steve kean signing by the way) and without his form, rovers would be bottom.
Just to let you remember Mr G., Keano left the club on a direct Promotion Spot!!!
You are absolutely clueless!!!!!!!!
What does the F stand for in your username? Is it F***wit?
A bit stoned on the Island?
TOO many dates you went on with your Sister,...mate?
Go and Kiss GBs a r s e!
I think you'll find, that it's you Burnley lot that get it on with your sisters.
As said before, you smoke TOO much mate.
Leave our club alone and take f.... Youth Team coach GB with you.
You both are better Off with clarets :-)
Says you. A venky/Steve Kean apologist, who between them have tarnished the name of our once proud club beyond repair; dragged our good name through the gutter, and left us staring into the financial abyss.

You are either a Burnley fan, or a complete simpleton. Much the same thing really.
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Who the f u c k is Simon G.? Absolute disgrace and not from this planet! GB youth TEAM coach is midtable with Players like Rhodes (a steve kean signing by the way) and without his form, rovers would be bottom. Just to let you remember Mr G., Keano left the club on a direct Promotion Spot!!! You are absolutely clueless!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]What does the F stand for in your username? Is it F***wit?[/p][/quote]A bit stoned on the Island? TOO many dates you went on with your Sister,...mate? Go and Kiss GBs a r s e![/p][/quote]I think you'll find, that it's you Burnley lot that get it on with your sisters.[/p][/quote]As said before, you smoke TOO much mate. Leave our club alone and take f.... Youth Team coach GB with you. You both are better Off with clarets :-)[/p][/quote]Says you. A venky/Steve Kean apologist, who between them have tarnished the name of our once proud club beyond repair; dragged our good name through the gutter, and left us staring into the financial abyss. You are either a Burnley fan, or a complete simpleton. Much the same thing really. Stone Island:

11:42pm Fri 27 Dec 13

crankitup says...

i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time.

yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same.

i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon
i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time. yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same. i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon crankitup

12:57am Sat 28 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Well Mugsy, were back in our trenches now sooo...
Listen up pal, any embargo is twelve months away yet and you can only be punished once for the same offence so scary stories about fines dont wash
Next up, Rhodes is going nowhere, he is not good enough for the Prem and may never be. Next, if he does go silly money comes in for GB to get a replacement and a good CM which we need.
Kinda win win really
I would rather keep Old Dusty but some of my fellow fans are becoming disillusioned with him as he has his limitations
We had a Boxing Day party last night . All of our footy crew and the debate was Rhodes v Shearer. No contest of course but then it turned to Rhodes or no Rhodes
Quite surprising how many said sell, and we are mainly wise old football men
So bring on the scare stories pal, no wucking furries
How did your lads do btw?_.
Half the season gone, we are sneaking up on you!
A good few days of festive fun and gorging I trust WR ? Some good points there WR, but I must point out a few things. Yes there is a good 12 months before FFP becomes the norm for us all, and I know it's not FFP but do you remember when dirty Leeds and Southampton for that matter knew they were going down in their respective seasons AND knew their financial states of affairs were FCUKED so decided to try cheat the system and go into administration, thus taking the minus 10 point hit during relegation? Well the FA decided that they had both acted improperly and deducted them 10 points for the start of their respective seasons in league 1.

If Rovers continue to spend on transferers NOW knowing full well that they won't be able to comply with FFP regs, which to be fair I don't think there's a Rovers fan alive that thinks that won't happen, then I think to be quite honest, without prejudice you will get absolutely slaughtered by the FA. Total worst case scenario, do you remember what happened to Luton Town a few years ago? Minus 30 points for financial irregularities. That was harsh but it happened and it practically ensured an automatic relegation.

So in summary, if you keep on spending knowing you're going to be unable to sustain the wages that come with it that's fine, but don't expect it to go unpunished.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Well Mugsy, were back in our trenches now sooo... Listen up pal, any embargo is twelve months away yet and you can only be punished once for the same offence so scary stories about fines dont wash Next up, Rhodes is going nowhere, he is not good enough for the Prem and may never be. Next, if he does go silly money comes in for GB to get a replacement and a good CM which we need. Kinda win win really I would rather keep Old Dusty but some of my fellow fans are becoming disillusioned with him as he has his limitations We had a Boxing Day party last night . All of our footy crew and the debate was Rhodes v Shearer. No contest of course but then it turned to Rhodes or no Rhodes Quite surprising how many said sell, and we are mainly wise old football men So bring on the scare stories pal, no wucking furries How did your lads do btw?_. Half the season gone, we are sneaking up on you![/p][/quote]A good few days of festive fun and gorging I trust WR ? Some good points there WR, but I must point out a few things. Yes there is a good 12 months before FFP becomes the norm for us all, and I know it's not FFP but do you remember when dirty Leeds and Southampton for that matter knew they were going down in their respective seasons AND knew their financial states of affairs were FCUKED so decided to try cheat the system and go into administration, thus taking the minus 10 point hit during relegation? Well the FA decided that they had both acted improperly and deducted them 10 points for the start of their respective seasons in league 1. If Rovers continue to spend on transferers NOW knowing full well that they won't be able to comply with FFP regs, which to be fair I don't think there's a Rovers fan alive that thinks that won't happen, then I think to be quite honest, without prejudice you will get absolutely slaughtered by the FA. Total worst case scenario, do you remember what happened to Luton Town a few years ago? Minus 30 points for financial irregularities. That was harsh but it happened and it practically ensured an automatic relegation. So in summary, if you keep on spending knowing you're going to be unable to sustain the wages that come with it that's fine, but don't expect it to go unpunished. You're not mugging me off that easily

6:30am Sat 28 Dec 13

Lurid67 says...

Things are going well for t'rovers and long may it continue agree with SG.

On another track, anyone else see the media backlash against Cardiff fans for hammering the owners.......... Just like the master baters did at the rovers fans mmmm thought not
Things are going well for t'rovers and long may it continue agree with SG. On another track, anyone else see the media backlash against Cardiff fans for hammering the owners.......... Just like the master baters did at the rovers fans mmmm thought not Lurid67

9:23am Sat 28 Dec 13

samr1875 says...

Tom F. wrote:
Who the f u c k is Simon G.?
Absolute disgrace and not from this planet!
GB youth TEAM coach is midtable with Players like Rhodes (a steve kean signing by the way) and without his form, rovers would be bottom.
Just to let you remember Mr G., Keano left the club on a direct Promotion Spot!!!
You are absolutely clueless!!!!!!!!
Steve Kean 'resigned' on 29th September 2012, so how can you buy into this concept that he left rovers in a promotion spot, what after about 8 games!! If it was midway throught the season then fair enough, the team is much more settled now, the players are playing for the manager and the supporters and there is a good vibe around Ewood Park and were 4 points off the playoffs. Compare this to 12 months ago, taking the points raised above, you my friend are clueless.
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Who the f u c k is Simon G.? Absolute disgrace and not from this planet! GB youth TEAM coach is midtable with Players like Rhodes (a steve kean signing by the way) and without his form, rovers would be bottom. Just to let you remember Mr G., Keano left the club on a direct Promotion Spot!!! You are absolutely clueless!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Steve Kean 'resigned' on 29th September 2012, so how can you buy into this concept that he left rovers in a promotion spot, what after about 8 games!! If it was midway throught the season then fair enough, the team is much more settled now, the players are playing for the manager and the supporters and there is a good vibe around Ewood Park and were 4 points off the playoffs. Compare this to 12 months ago, taking the points raised above, you my friend are clueless. samr1875

9:52am Sat 28 Dec 13

dangerous dave says...

crankitup wrote:
i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time.

yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same.

i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon
this post cuts to the chase and says it all!!
SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time. yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same. i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon[/p][/quote]this post cuts to the chase and says it all!! SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave

11:56am Sat 28 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

Looking up what? I suspect the bottom of the excrement drain!
Looking up what? I suspect the bottom of the excrement drain! RobH2O

11:59am Sat 28 Dec 13

A Darener says...

We are not afraid of relegation, to any division. What we are afraid of is the Venky's staying for much longer.
We are not afraid of relegation, to any division. What we are afraid of is the Venky's staying for much longer. A Darener

1:06pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Dukes says...

Doing well really we could not beat Sheffield Wednesday he got everything wrong on the team.
Doing well really we could not beat Sheffield Wednesday he got everything wrong on the team. Dukes

1:53pm Sat 28 Dec 13

roverstid says...

dangerous dave wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time.

yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same.

i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon
this post cuts to the chase and says it all!!
SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Of course two football men having spent their entire lives dedicated to the sport must be wrong. I can understand GB suger coating it for the sake of his job but I'm sure Garners got more in him to spout rubbish.

You had to be there these last few seasons sat there on the terraces to understand what he's talking about.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time. yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same. i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon[/p][/quote]this post cuts to the chase and says it all!! SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Of course two football men having spent their entire lives dedicated to the sport must be wrong. I can understand GB suger coating it for the sake of his job but I'm sure Garners got more in him to spout rubbish. You had to be there these last few seasons sat there on the terraces to understand what he's talking about. roverstid

4:00pm Sat 28 Dec 13

owd nick says...

roverstid wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time.

yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same.

i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon
this post cuts to the chase and says it all!!
SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Of course two football men having spent their entire lives dedicated to the sport must be wrong. I can understand GB suger coating it for the sake of his job but I'm sure Garners got more in him to spout rubbish.

You had to be there these last few seasons sat there on the terraces to understand what he's talking about.
Where is GB "taking a pop", all he is saying is that he couldn't understand the spattering of boo's that were breaking out.
I didn't boo but I was very disappointed with the overall performance as were everyone around me.

Thats life, we have played a lot better than that this season and lost games so in that respect it was a good point won, and in all honesty I have learned not to take league position all that seriously when I am looking at our next opponents, that doesn't work in this league at all.

Roverstid is right, like me I suspect he turns up and supports the team so I have total respect for his views versus those of ex good time supporters who rely on the opinions of others.

Those who still turn up to games home and away have a right to express their opinions.

PS, for the uninitiated there have been "smatterings of boo's" at every home game we have failed to win this and last season for that matter, and I suspect that goes for every club in every league,
[quote][p][bold]roverstid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time. yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same. i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon[/p][/quote]this post cuts to the chase and says it all!! SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Of course two football men having spent their entire lives dedicated to the sport must be wrong. I can understand GB suger coating it for the sake of his job but I'm sure Garners got more in him to spout rubbish. You had to be there these last few seasons sat there on the terraces to understand what he's talking about.[/p][/quote]Where is GB "taking a pop", all he is saying is that he couldn't understand the spattering of boo's that were breaking out. I didn't boo but I was very disappointed with the overall performance as were everyone around me. Thats life, we have played a lot better than that this season and lost games so in that respect it was a good point won, and in all honesty I have learned not to take league position all that seriously when I am looking at our next opponents, that doesn't work in this league at all. Roverstid is right, like me I suspect he turns up and supports the team so I have total respect for his views versus those of ex good time supporters who rely on the opinions of others. Those who still turn up to games home and away have a right to express their opinions. PS, for the uninitiated there have been "smatterings of boo's" at every home game we have failed to win this and last season for that matter, and I suspect that goes for every club in every league, owd nick

5:15pm Sat 28 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

samr1875 wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Who the f u c k is Simon G.?
Absolute disgrace and not from this planet!
GB youth TEAM coach is midtable with Players like Rhodes (a steve kean signing by the way) and without his form, rovers would be bottom.
Just to let you remember Mr G., Keano left the club on a direct Promotion Spot!!!
You are absolutely clueless!!!!!!!!
Steve Kean 'resigned' on 29th September 2012, so how can you buy into this concept that he left rovers in a promotion spot, what after about 8 games!! If it was midway throught the season then fair enough, the team is much more settled now, the players are playing for the manager and the supporters and there is a good vibe around Ewood Park and were 4 points off the playoffs. Compare this to 12 months ago, taking the points raised above, you my friend are clueless.
Tom F is a pure Dingle.

Doesn't know Simon Garner but defends Steve Kean, says it all.
[quote][p][bold]samr1875[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Who the f u c k is Simon G.? Absolute disgrace and not from this planet! GB youth TEAM coach is midtable with Players like Rhodes (a steve kean signing by the way) and without his form, rovers would be bottom. Just to let you remember Mr G., Keano left the club on a direct Promotion Spot!!! You are absolutely clueless!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Steve Kean 'resigned' on 29th September 2012, so how can you buy into this concept that he left rovers in a promotion spot, what after about 8 games!! If it was midway throught the season then fair enough, the team is much more settled now, the players are playing for the manager and the supporters and there is a good vibe around Ewood Park and were 4 points off the playoffs. Compare this to 12 months ago, taking the points raised above, you my friend are clueless.[/p][/quote]Tom F is a pure Dingle. Doesn't know Simon Garner but defends Steve Kean, says it all. greenscreener

10:13pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Well Mugsy, were back in our trenches now sooo...
Listen up pal, any embargo is twelve months away yet and you can only be punished once for the same offence so scary stories about fines dont wash
Next up, Rhodes is going nowhere, he is not good enough for the Prem and may never be. Next, if he does go silly money comes in for GB to get a replacement and a good CM which we need.
Kinda win win really
I would rather keep Old Dusty but some of my fellow fans are becoming disillusioned with him as he has his limitations
We had a Boxing Day party last night . All of our footy crew and the debate was Rhodes v Shearer. No contest of course but then it turned to Rhodes or no Rhodes
Quite surprising how many said sell, and we are mainly wise old football men
So bring on the scare stories pal, no wucking furries
How did your lads do btw?_.
Half the season gone, we are sneaking up on you!
Sorry WR. That would have been a very short and one sided debate in our house. I agree that whilst I don't wish to see Rhodes leave, I wouldn't be too distressed if he did.
The interesting topic in our pub is that of all the so called stars that Venkys have sold since taking over, how many have gone on to greater success and which would we have back? It was a long debate and a very short list.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Well Mugsy, were back in our trenches now sooo... Listen up pal, any embargo is twelve months away yet and you can only be punished once for the same offence so scary stories about fines dont wash Next up, Rhodes is going nowhere, he is not good enough for the Prem and may never be. Next, if he does go silly money comes in for GB to get a replacement and a good CM which we need. Kinda win win really I would rather keep Old Dusty but some of my fellow fans are becoming disillusioned with him as he has his limitations We had a Boxing Day party last night . All of our footy crew and the debate was Rhodes v Shearer. No contest of course but then it turned to Rhodes or no Rhodes Quite surprising how many said sell, and we are mainly wise old football men So bring on the scare stories pal, no wucking furries How did your lads do btw?_. Half the season gone, we are sneaking up on you![/p][/quote]Sorry WR. That would have been a very short and one sided debate in our house. I agree that whilst I don't wish to see Rhodes leave, I wouldn't be too distressed if he did. The interesting topic in our pub is that of all the so called stars that Venkys have sold since taking over, how many have gone on to greater success and which would we have back? It was a long debate and a very short list. Angry From Accrington

10:34pm Sat 28 Dec 13

crankitup says...

owd nick wrote:
roverstid wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time.

yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same.

i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon
this post cuts to the chase and says it all!!
SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Of course two football men having spent their entire lives dedicated to the sport must be wrong. I can understand GB suger coating it for the sake of his job but I'm sure Garners got more in him to spout rubbish.

You had to be there these last few seasons sat there on the terraces to understand what he's talking about.
Where is GB "taking a pop", all he is saying is that he couldn't understand the spattering of boo's that were breaking out.
I didn't boo but I was very disappointed with the overall performance as were everyone around me.

Thats life, we have played a lot better than that this season and lost games so in that respect it was a good point won, and in all honesty I have learned not to take league position all that seriously when I am looking at our next opponents, that doesn't work in this league at all.

Roverstid is right, like me I suspect he turns up and supports the team so I have total respect for his views versus those of ex good time supporters who rely on the opinions of others.

Those who still turn up to games home and away have a right to express their opinions.

PS, for the uninitiated there have been "smatterings of boo's" at every home game we have failed to win this and last season for that matter, and I suspect that goes for every club in every league,
for the record mate....i've missed three away games due to work and the lack of funds.....the Mrs, the boy and I are season ticket holders and have been since 1990 and prior to that attended most home games....

we (me and my family) have been sat on the terraces and watched our team for years and not just the past few....and i have a right to my opinion and that is GB is NOT the right man for the job....i think he's been a good intermediary but mark my words he doesn't command enough respect from the players to be in the job long term.....otherwise the players would put in a shift week in week out....

before you start spouting about who deserves to have their say and who doesn't you need to know the facts.....
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverstid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time. yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same. i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon[/p][/quote]this post cuts to the chase and says it all!! SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Of course two football men having spent their entire lives dedicated to the sport must be wrong. I can understand GB suger coating it for the sake of his job but I'm sure Garners got more in him to spout rubbish. You had to be there these last few seasons sat there on the terraces to understand what he's talking about.[/p][/quote]Where is GB "taking a pop", all he is saying is that he couldn't understand the spattering of boo's that were breaking out. I didn't boo but I was very disappointed with the overall performance as were everyone around me. Thats life, we have played a lot better than that this season and lost games so in that respect it was a good point won, and in all honesty I have learned not to take league position all that seriously when I am looking at our next opponents, that doesn't work in this league at all. Roverstid is right, like me I suspect he turns up and supports the team so I have total respect for his views versus those of ex good time supporters who rely on the opinions of others. Those who still turn up to games home and away have a right to express their opinions. PS, for the uninitiated there have been "smatterings of boo's" at every home game we have failed to win this and last season for that matter, and I suspect that goes for every club in every league,[/p][/quote]for the record mate....i've missed three away games due to work and the lack of funds.....the Mrs, the boy and I are season ticket holders and have been since 1990 and prior to that attended most home games.... we (me and my family) have been sat on the terraces and watched our team for years and not just the past few....and i have a right to my opinion and that is GB is NOT the right man for the job....i think he's been a good intermediary but mark my words he doesn't command enough respect from the players to be in the job long term.....otherwise the players would put in a shift week in week out.... before you start spouting about who deserves to have their say and who doesn't you need to know the facts..... crankitup

1:05am Sun 29 Dec 13

MxMave says...

roverstid wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time.

yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same.

i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon
this post cuts to the chase and says it all!!
SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Of course two football men having spent their entire lives dedicated to the sport must be wrong. I can understand GB suger coating it for the sake of his job but I'm sure Garners got more in him to spout rubbish.

You had to be there these last few seasons sat there on the terraces to understand what he's talking about.
Be fair. Garner is still heavily associated with the club. He will talk with gary regularly and hence is sympathetic to him. You would be too in his shoes.
The annoying thing is garner isnt half as complementary on radio lancs when hes having to sit and watch the drivel served up.
[quote][p][bold]roverstid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i have the utmost respect for you Simon....i knew when you pulled on that shirt we would get no less than 100% from you.....but i'm afraid to say on this occasion you are talking out of your behind......yes things are better than a year ago but as a team we don't seem to be moving in the right direction all of the time. yes we may have a win and a couple of draws which are classed in the telegraph and by GB as game unbeaten but we're not going to get promotion with that kind of form.....and Simon if you were true to your colours you would say the same. i know we've had numerous managers and as fans and club we were willing to cling to anyone who could give us some sort of stability...but in my opinion Gary is NOT the man to take us forward.....the stay positive crew will say it's not just down to the manager...to that i say "rubbish", you only have to look at Utd.....under AF they were formidable... but under DM they look average.....the manager is everything...he decides the formation, he alters the formation, he picks the team, he demands respect, he earns respect from the team, he takes NO sh*t from the owners and he gets results.....Gary you fall short of most of the above and then you have the cheek to have a pop at the fans who i may add have payed their hard earned cash to come to ewood to watch a somewhat poor game and have the right to BOO if we feel that we have been short changed......like it or not fellow rovers...we need a stronger manager and GB is not the man.......and you know it Simon[/p][/quote]this post cuts to the chase and says it all!! SG - enjoyed watching you play and a good servant to the club but on this occasion simon like GB your out of your depth and your comments way off the mark. GB has built a team of misfits mates/freebies around himself which is a recipe for disaster when trying to manage people - we need a good pro Manager with sound experience and until this happens we definitely wont move forward. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Of course two football men having spent their entire lives dedicated to the sport must be wrong. I can understand GB suger coating it for the sake of his job but I'm sure Garners got more in him to spout rubbish. You had to be there these last few seasons sat there on the terraces to understand what he's talking about.[/p][/quote]Be fair. Garner is still heavily associated with the club. He will talk with gary regularly and hence is sympathetic to him. You would be too in his shoes. The annoying thing is garner isnt half as complementary on radio lancs when hes having to sit and watch the drivel served up. MxMave

8:18am Sun 29 Dec 13

Tom F. says...

Macht prediction: Rovers 0 : 2 Birmingham
Out with youth TEAM coach GB
Out with boooooboys
Steve Kean IN
Macht prediction: Rovers 0 : 2 Birmingham Out with youth TEAM coach GB Out with boooooboys Steve Kean IN Tom F.

9:17am Sun 29 Dec 13

hasslem hasslem says...

Tom F. wrote:
Macht prediction: Rovers 0 : 2 Birmingham
Out with youth TEAM coach GB
Out with boooooboys
Steve Kean IN
prat
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Macht prediction: Rovers 0 : 2 Birmingham Out with youth TEAM coach GB Out with boooooboys Steve Kean IN[/p][/quote]prat hasslem hasslem

9:32am Sun 29 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Macht prediction: Rovers 0 : 2 Birmingham
Out with youth TEAM coach GB
Out with boooooboys
Steve Kean IN
prat
Aye, Pure Dingle, notice the frequent repeated letters, he often gets his sixth finger stuck in a keyboard built for normal folk.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Macht prediction: Rovers 0 : 2 Birmingham Out with youth TEAM coach GB Out with boooooboys Steve Kean IN[/p][/quote]prat[/p][/quote]Aye, Pure Dingle, notice the frequent repeated letters, he often gets his sixth finger stuck in a keyboard built for normal folk. greenscreener

9:46am Sun 29 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

We need a lift today, selection depends on the injury situation, I would start with,

Eastwood,
Kane, Dunn, Hanley, Spurr
Taylor, Cairney, Lowe, King
Dunn
Rhodes

With Marshall for Taylor and Rochina for Dunn if they are not fit.

Gestade looks like a bench option to cover Rhodes, last 20 minutes, or if we end up pressing for a late goal.
We need a lift today, selection depends on the injury situation, I would start with, Eastwood, Kane, Dunn, Hanley, Spurr Taylor, Cairney, Lowe, King Dunn Rhodes With Marshall for Taylor and Rochina for Dunn if they are not fit. Gestade looks like a bench option to cover Rhodes, last 20 minutes, or if we end up pressing for a late goal. greenscreener

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