Blackburn Rovers defender Bradley Orr determined to take second chance (From This Is Lancashire)

Lets see if you keep your pace when Henley is fit because I'm afraid we have seen enough of you to realise your simply not good enough. Overall team performances are starting to improve but a weak link at right back is clear for all to see. Get this weekend out of the way and a miracle might happen then back to Tuesday night and 3 more points please.

Bradley. Take no notice of the morons who keep calling you on these pages. What would they know about how to manage a football team.As long as you give your all for the club that is all we can ask of you.

GAZHAY wrote:
Lets see if you keep your pace when Henley is fit because I'm afraid we have seen enough of you to realise your simply not good enough. Overall team performances are starting to improve but a weak link at right back is clear for all to see. Get this weekend out of the way and a miracle might happen then back to Tuesday night and 3 more points please.

Oh give it a rest will you it is getting very boring now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What always amazes me is that when a new manager comes in the existing players suddenly say. The spirit in the dressing room is amazing. The training regime is suddenly top class and the players are fully behind the manager. We have had five managers in two years. Each one had the players saying the same things, see above. Why? Do the players not have personal pride in what they do? It shouldn't matter who is at the head. Each player should do his best in each match to satisfy his own personal aims. Having said that , MA certainly seems to know what he is doing, long may it continue.

1952 rover wrote:

GAZHAY wrote:
Lets see if you keep your pace when Henley is fit because I'm afraid we have seen enough of you to realise your simply not good enough. Overall team performances are starting to improve but a weak link at right back is clear for all to see. Get this weekend out of the way and a miracle might happen then back to Tuesday night and 3 more points please.

Oh give it a rest will you it is getting very boring now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1952 rover. Please allow other people to have their own opinion, which doesn't necessarily always have to agree with yours.
For me, I'm all for giving Orr another chance to see what he can do now that we have a ' proper ' manager. Perhaps he can be a success in a settled defence as opposed to the shambles that we have seen up to now.
We'll just have to wait and see. If he's not up to it as others think, I'm sure Appleton will do the right thing.

Orr deserves his second chance is not doing anything wrong at the moment - will be good to have competition for the RB spot when Henley is fit, but for now Orr has the position and is doing his best to keep it.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

1952 rover wrote:

GAZHAY wrote: Lets see if you keep your pace when Henley is fit because I'm afraid we have seen enough of you to realise your simply not good enough. Overall team performances are starting to improve but a weak link at right back is clear for all to see. Get this weekend out of the way and a miracle might happen then back to Tuesday night and 3 more points please.

Oh give it a rest will you it is getting very boring now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1952 rover. Please allow other people to have their own opinion, which doesn't necessarily always have to agree with yours. For me, I'm all for giving Orr another chance to see what he can do now that we have a ' proper ' manager. Perhaps he can be a success in a settled defence as opposed to the shambles that we have seen up to now. We'll just have to wait and see. If he's not up to it as others think, I'm sure Appleton will do the right thing.

What is getting very boing is listening to your opinion which is always RIGHT!!!!! Agreed now we have a proper manager the defence is looking much better and Hanley and Dann are starting to look much more solid. Hanley especially under Appleton has improved no end and also Murphy is starting to look more like the player we all thought he was.
Long may the improvement continue and who knows.

Mr Orr
After the ups and downs you have had at the Rovers its time to use the old phrase "Keep your mouth shut and let your football do the talking."

“But unfortunately I’m not good enough to be able to pick and choose what football clubs I can play for."

Before people start the abuse of "Dam right you're not good enough" it takes a lot of guts to come out with a statement like that. Orr has been a great asset for us both under Kean and now Appleton. Nobody can deny that since MA's appointment we've seen a vast improvement in the defence, an whilst the midfield still seems rather slow to get going it's not as much of an issue whilst we still have Rhodes, Best (on his return) and Kazim/DJ to a lesser extent. As they are all very good and breaking through a defence.

I hope we do get a RW'er in (not a CAM playing in RW) because the only player we currently have who does a good job week in week out on the RW is Pedersen (who really belongs in the centre with Lowe).

Keep up the good work Orr and Appleton!

If you're Appy and you know it clap ya hands!

Good luck Bradley, you've got a heck of a lot of work to do to win some supporters back around, myself included. Adam Henley looked hungry to succeed and super confident in his own ability earlier in the season. Should have some decent competition for places if we can shake a few injuries.

If we had millions to buy any players we still wouldn't be guaranteed success it is the right choice of manager that will get us success and I think Appletons the man to do it. Agood selection from Shaw and co even though many derided him for it at the time.
The fact is the club should get their fingers out to bring in his requested players just dont let Shebby get involved or we wont sign anyone.

I see Kean is the top of every clubs list to be their next manager ! Where has he disappeared to with his well earned million my guess is Portugal where noone knows how pathetic his managerial skills are.I just wondered why all those clubs who slagged us off for the treatment we gave him have not took him on board?

Fair play to Bradley Orr. Took guts and humility even to come back to the club, he knows his support for Kean did huge damage to his relationshp with the fans and i was one of his biggest detractors at that time.
However he has come back in and settled in to a solid back four which is pleasing. When Henley comes back that competition will be great for a young player to bring him on even further.

Its all looking good at the moment. Fair play to Appy.

bburnrover wrote:
If we had millions to buy any players we still wouldn't be guaranteed success it is the right choice of manager that will get us success and I think Appletons the man to do it. Agood selection from Shaw and co even though many derided him for it at the time.
The fact is the club should get their fingers out to bring in his requested players just dont let Shebby get involved or we wont sign anyone.

I see Kean is the top of every clubs list to be their next manager ! Where has he disappeared to with his well earned million my guess is Portugal where noone knows how pathetic his managerial skills are.I just wondered why all those clubs who slagged us off for the treatment we gave him have not took him on board?

Perhaps his mates Moyes and Fergie, who supported him through it all, could give him a job at one of their clubs....NOT.

French Rover wrote:
Orr deserves his second chance is not doing anything wrong at the moment - will be good to have competition for the RB spot when Henley is fit, but for now Orr has the position and is doing his best to keep it.

I'd be more than happy to see Henley at left back, Orr and right back and Martin Olsson left midfield. Henley at left back worked great at Old Trafford.

The only concern I have about Orr is that he looks extremely nervous at times and appears to just want to get rid of the ball rather than use it, this may be because he is expecting a negative reaction from some fans if he makes an error, or possibly because our midfield simply isn't strong enough and likely to give the ball away again.

Orr is a good squad player and will do a job for us given the opportunity, and he obviously knows his limitations, never a bad thing.

So best of luck to the guy.

owd nick wrote:
The only concern I have about Orr is that he looks extremely nervous at times and appears to just want to get rid of the ball rather than use it, this may be because he is expecting a negative reaction from some fans if he makes an error, or possibly because our midfield simply isn't strong enough and likely to give the ball away again.

Orr is a good squad player and will do a job for us given the opportunity, and he obviously knows his limitations, never a bad thing.

So best of luck to the guy.

I agree, With Orr and possibly other players it's down to confidence. That will come naturally, with Appleton's help, with a successful run of results. As they say confidence breeds confidence. In the meantime let's keep off Orr's back and give the bloke a chance.

owd nick wrote:
The only concern I have about Orr is that he looks extremely nervous at times and appears to just want to get rid of the ball rather than use it, this may be because he is expecting a negative reaction from some fans if he makes an error, or possibly because our midfield simply isn't strong enough and likely to give the ball away again.

Orr is a good squad player and will do a job for us given the opportunity, and he obviously knows his limitations, never a bad thing.

So best of luck to the guy.

In his position would you ever want to give the ball to Lowe or even worse Murphy? An when your RW is a LW'er (Peders) or a ST (in the case of Kaz/DJ) more often that not they wander out of position leaving him on his own.

Given his options in his position I'd hoof the ball as well!
Rule 1) Never give Murphy the ball unless you've got 15 minutes to waste while he makes his mind up where to pass, which inevitably leads either giving the ball away, an awkward pass to a marked player, or back to the defence.
Rule 2) If the ball is with Rhodes in the box, charge up the pitch in readiness to celebrate with him!
Rule 3) If you are Murphy please ignore Rule 2 as you'll never make it back to our own half without a taxi.

owd nick wrote:
The only concern I have about Orr is that he looks extremely nervous at times and appears to just want to get rid of the ball rather than use it, this may be because he is expecting a negative reaction from some fans if he makes an error, or possibly because our midfield simply isn't strong enough and likely to give the ball away again.

Orr is a good squad player and will do a job for us given the opportunity, and he obviously knows his limitations, never a bad thing.

So best of luck to the guy.

In his position would you ever want to give the ball to Lowe or even worse Murphy? An when your RW is a LW'er (Peders) or a ST (in the case of Kaz/DJ) more often that not they wander out of position leaving him on his own.

Given his options in his position I'd hoof the ball as well!
Rule 1) Never give Murphy the ball unless you've got 15 minutes to waste while he makes his mind up where to pass, which inevitably leads either giving the ball away, an awkward pass to a marked player, or back to the defence.
Rule 2) If the ball is with Rhodes in the box, charge up the pitch in readiness to celebrate with him!
Rule 3) If you are Murphy please ignore Rule 2 as you'll never make it back to our own half without a taxi.

Orr and Dann have took far more stick than they have deserved with the odd poor pass or missed tackle and they have been slaughtered by some fans. It's time to support the whole team to the full.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

1952 rover wrote:

GAZHAY wrote:
Lets see if you keep your pace when Henley is fit because I'm afraid we have seen enough of you to realise your simply not good enough. Overall team performances are starting to improve but a weak link at right back is clear for all to see. Get this weekend out of the way and a miracle might happen then back to Tuesday night and 3 more points please.

Oh give it a rest will you it is getting very boring now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1952 rover. Please allow other people to have their own opinion, which doesn't necessarily always have to agree with yours.
For me, I'm all for giving Orr another chance to see what he can do now that we have a ' proper ' manager. Perhaps he can be a success in a settled defence as opposed to the shambles that we have seen up to now.
We'll just have to wait and see. If he's not up to it as others think, I'm sure Appleton will do the right thing.

it does not but spouting the same old rubbish get,s very boring PK. Hope that is fine with you Harwoodsblue.

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
Orr and Dann have took far more stick than they have deserved with the odd poor pass or missed tackle and they have been slaughtered by some fans. It's time to support the whole team to the full.

well said i hope Gazhay reads your comment.

Niether orr or henley is the best right back at the club lowe is, i think the only mistake mr appleton is making is not realising this, lowe is completely out of his depth in mdfield and contributes nothing in games, he just continues to pick up bookings

owd nick wrote:
The only concern I have about Orr is that he looks extremely nervous at times and appears to just want to get rid of the ball rather than use it, this may be because he is expecting a negative reaction from some fans if he makes an error, or possibly because our midfield simply isn't strong enough and likely to give the ball away again. Orr is a good squad player and will do a job for us given the opportunity, and he obviously knows his limitations, never a bad thing. So best of luck to the guy.

Agreed. How are players supposed to settle into a game when they're singled out for abuse if they make the littlest mistake? It usually comes from fans that can talk a good game but have obviously never played it. Roberts, Andrews, Orr, Murphy and even Pedersen have been on the receiving end of this disgraceful behaviour over the last few seasons. Football can be a frustrating game to watch but some fans appear to come to games predetermined to voice their dislike for certain players before the game has even kicked off. Orr wasn't good enough last year but, aside from Yakubu, who was? He's played okay this season and deserves the same backing as the rest of the players who got us relegated last season.

With regards to Searcher's comment, good shout. Martin Olsson would be best utilised further forward. That said, Henley is a similar player so, should we fail to get a right-winger in on loan, he could be utilised there. Despite spending most of his career there, Kazim-Richards didn't look to happy to be back out wide against Brighton.

I was one of the 548 at Brighton on Tuesday night. I thought across the back four we looked solid and also extremely committed. Orr had a completely decent game (as did Murphy for that matter, although one late foul was close to a second booking). Previous posters have already said that the weaker players on the night were Campbell and Rhodes, and we were certainly in need of someone stronger at right midfield.
The lack of substitutions was very strange as the game wore on and I can only assume that several of those who played 90 minutes will get a rest on Saturday.

I named my son JW wrote:
I was one of the 548 at Brighton on Tuesday night. I thought across the back four we looked solid and also extremely committed. Orr had a completely decent game (as did Murphy for that matter, although one late foul was close to a second booking). Previous posters have already said that the weaker players on the night were Campbell and Rhodes, and we were certainly in need of someone stronger at right midfield.
The lack of substitutions was very strange as the game wore on and I can only assume that several of those who played 90 minutes will get a rest on Saturday.

how do you pronounce it?

For me, we've been crying out for experience at right back - yes Henley is a good, relatively pacey youngster, however if we got a decent (actual) right-winger, whoever is playing right back wouldn't be as exposed.

1952 rover wrote:

GAZHAY wrote:
Lets see if you keep your pace when Henley is fit because I'm afraid we have seen enough of you to realise your simply not good enough. Overall team performances are starting to improve but a weak link at right back is clear for all to see. Get this weekend out of the way and a miracle might happen then back to Tuesday night and 3 more points please.

Oh give it a rest will you it is getting very boring now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah but he's right isnt he.... you've gotta be blind to see it any other way.

The truth is that NONE of these are good enough but of three Bradl Eee Orr is the least bad option

Orr Murphy and co simply not good enough
Out with the lot of them

Angry From Accrington wrote:
The truth is that NONE of these are good enough but of three Bradl Eee Orr is the least bad option

Lowe is good enough at right back

hasslem hasslem wrote:

I named my son JW wrote:
I was one of the 548 at Brighton on Tuesday night. I thought across the back four we looked solid and also extremely committed. Orr had a completely decent game (as did Murphy for that matter, although one late foul was close to a second booking). Previous posters have already said that the weaker players on the night were Campbell and Rhodes, and we were certainly in need of someone stronger at right midfield.
The lack of substitutions was very strange as the game wore on and I can only assume that several of those who played 90 minutes will get a rest on Saturday.

how do you pronounce it?

That's exactly what the registrar said!