Appleton tips Orr for big role at Blackburn Rovers
9:39am Friday 8th February 2013 in Sport
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
MICHAEL Appleton is backing Bradley Orr to play a key role in Blackburn Rovers’ promotion push after hailing the full back as an “infectious character”.
Orr’s Rovers career looked doomed when he was allowed to leave on loan to tomorrow’s opponents Ipswich Town in November with global advisor Shebby Singh ready to extend the deal until the end of the season.
Appleton’s appointment as Rovers boss though saw the 30-year-old immediately recalled and Orr has been tipped by his boss to play an influential role at Ewood.
Orr returned to the line-up in Saturday’s comfortable 2-0 victory overBristol City and is expected to continue at right back against his former team-mates tomorrow.
Since being brought to the club by Steve Kean from QPR in January 2012, Orr has struggled to establish himself having received criticism from sections of supporters for an interview supporting Kean and subsequently falling out of favour with Singh. Now though, back at Ewood Park and offering competition to the currently injured Adam Henley, Appleton is relishing having him as part of his squad.
Appleton said of his performance against Bristol City: “It was a solid performance from Brad against one of the clubs he was at for a long time.
“I am delighted for him. He is one of those players who everybody loves at the football club. He is good company as well and it is good we have him back at the club.
“He is an infectious character. Although it may not have been a great start to his career at Blackburn, I don’t think he can blamed for any part in that.
“I think there are other people out there who can be blamed for a part in it. He has done nothing wrong as far as I am concerned and he will come in and do well for us until the end of the season.”
The Rovers boss has also again stressed the importance of being hard to beat after seeing his side record two successive clean sheets.
“I am delighted with two clean sheets,” said Appleton. “Jordan Rhodes will have got all the plaudits the other day but there were some very good performances in the back four.
“We have had to deal with a lot of long balls. Scott Dann and Grant Hanley were unsung heroes at times, Brad and Martin Olsson as well in dealing with a lot of diagonal balls.
“It was never going to be pretty. It is impossible to be pretty when you come up against a side that play like Bristol City did. I am not worried about that in the slightest little bit.
“Ipswich will be a different game, as Brighton was, and we treat every game as it comes. But it is like anything, if you play really, really well but lose no one cares.”
Meanwhile Rovers will today hope to add the loan signing of DJ Campbell from QPR but West Brom are reluctant to allow Jerome Thomas to leave The Hawthorns.
Comments(69)
dangerous dave
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9:46am Fri 8 Feb 13
ship material - this is the first load of rubbish to come from Mr Appletons mouth and I hope its the last!!!
Orr just is not good enough and I hope this is not the first sign of cheap second raters to be playing for the club!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS COAR
lancs1985
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9:47am Fri 8 Feb 13
GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS
GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT
RoverTheHill
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9:49am Fri 8 Feb 13
When Rovers is in decline,
There's an App for that
Bring on the dingles!
rovers india
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9:55am Fri 8 Feb 13
Harwoodstblue
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9:58am Fri 8 Feb 13
dangerous dave
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10:03am Fri 8 Feb 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Venk Off
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10:10am Fri 8 Feb 13
For the first time since Big Sam left I am looking up the table not looking down it
Lets give Orr a chance - if he can show that he fits into Appletons team it can only be good for us
chez rover
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10:11am Fri 8 Feb 13
COYB!!!!!
Harwoodstblue
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10:12am Fri 8 Feb 13
dangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
crammed as a wasp
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10:13am Fri 8 Feb 13
1952 rover
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10:16am Fri 8 Feb 13
Angry From Accrington wrote:How Sad You Are.
As infectious as a virus
1952 rover
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10:17am Fri 8 Feb 13
lancs1985 wrote:Give it a rest for God's sake.
LOOKS LIKE THE DIRTY SCOUSER HAS BEEN DOING MORE BROWN NOSEING
GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS
GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT
1952 rover
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10:18am Fri 8 Feb 13
rovers india wrote:No that would be you
orr is the worst RB to have in the team. do u all agree? plz reply
1952 rover
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10:20am Fri 8 Feb 13
Halcyon wrote:Well Said. If they don't like it go and watch the Dingles, as they must like them more with all their calling of the Rovers.
can the orr haters not just get over it, sad ba$tards
1952 rover
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10:22am Fri 8 Feb 13
angryandy
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10:26am Fri 8 Feb 13
COYB the future's a lot brighter than it was 3 or 4 games ago...
angryandy
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10:41am Fri 8 Feb 13
1952 rover wrote:You're not the only one getting a little fed up of the negativity on these pages but you can surely understand why especially with the Venky's lack of common sense! Rovers fans have always been fickle. I remember Don Mackay's being of Sellars, Garner, Keeley, Faz etc being criticised in the 80's for not perfoming just after JW had taken control of the club. I didn't agree with that then but we are a different kettle of fish now.
Why don't all you critics wait till the end of the season before you shout out your s@it.
A Darener
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10:42am Fri 8 Feb 13
ChrisDeBerg
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10:54am Fri 8 Feb 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way!
dangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances!
DANGEROUS DAVE OUT
RTID
A Rover 45 years and over
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10:58am Fri 8 Feb 13
Wez_SHEBBYOUT
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11:02am Fri 8 Feb 13
moh
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11:04am Fri 8 Feb 13
lancs1985 wrote:He was poor against Bristol City. The two Olsons were effective and stopped any crosses from left side. Bristol had a few good chances in the first half and all came from balls on right hand side. The right side was poor. Bristol nearly scored twice in first half and the balls came from rovers right side. Orr needs to concentrate more or rovers need to play Lowe as right back till Henley comes back.
LOOKS LIKE THE DIRTY SCOUSER HAS BEEN DOING MORE BROWN NOSEING GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT
matt00
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11:06am Fri 8 Feb 13
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=7PO4f3ppO
z8
I'd find it hard to forgive a great player but as Orr is only average at his very best and I have no problem disliking him. That said once he pulls on the shirt he should get full support and if he fails its up the the manager to put final nail in his coffin.
sure henley when fit will keep orr on the bench so fingers crossed he is only a temporary measure
A Darener
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11:09am Fri 8 Feb 13
Wez_SHEBBYOUT wrote:hhaha next joke.....And you are possibly the worst supporter I haven't seen at Ewood!!
hhaha next joke Orr is possibly the worst player i have seen at Ewood for quite some time.
dangerous dave
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11:12am Fri 8 Feb 13
ChrisDeBerg wrote:Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTIDdangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.Harwoodstblue wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Tatts
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11:13am Fri 8 Feb 13
To.guy
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11:18am Fri 8 Feb 13
Lancs - pensioner
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11:22am Fri 8 Feb 13
MA has done well so far even without the Venkys full backing.
RTID
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11:25am Fri 8 Feb 13
French Rover
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11:26am Fri 8 Feb 13
PS - Let's plough through the tractor boys this weekend!
lusorover
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11:41am Fri 8 Feb 13
It just goes to prove what we all suspected.
They know nowt!
It could just be that the 'moaners' are running short of things to moan about now that there is actually some good news coming out of Ewood.
Surely, they can't all be Dingles - can they?
madrover
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1:23pm Fri 8 Feb 13
ChrisDeBerg wrote:here here
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way!
dangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances!
DANGEROUS DAVE OUT
RTID
Wild Rover
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1:28pm Fri 8 Feb 13
lusorover wrote:Oh yes they can Luso, in my view anyway
One has to laugh when posters on here criticise so harshly a player who featured in the Championship team-of-the-week.
It just goes to prove what we all suspected.
They know nowt!
It could just be that the 'moaners' are running short of things to moan about now that there is actually some good news coming out of Ewood.
Surely, they can't all be Dingles - can they?
Whatever they are Rovers fans they ain't
3 more points tomorrow will choke em though...
Onwards
ChrisDeBerg
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1:46pm Fri 8 Feb 13
dangerous dave wrote:I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team.
ChrisDeBerg wrote:Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTIDdangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.Harwoodstblue wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good!
RTID
srvp28
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2:01pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.
I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
Bolton Rover
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2:07pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Orr played ok in the last game, not outstanding but ok given its his first game back.
MxMave
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2:33pm Fri 8 Feb 13
noddy57
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2:34pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Hovis1945
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3:04pm Fri 8 Feb 13
RTID wrote:For what it is worth I agree with all that. I did not rate him that badly when he was playing in Kean's teams which had no tactical set up, no game plan and basically no idea. Really hope the fresh start continues for him, the team, the supporters and the club.
I mist be watching a different game to most of you. Bradley Orr was actually very good against Bristol City. What he did well was, running forward beyond half way, and rather than doing what the Olsson's do (run into a corner and lose it), he played it in to feet, either inside or up to the striker - I was actually very impressed with his passing, which he hit hard in to feet, rather than lofted in and around Rhodes.
fishcake 75
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3:37pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Is Eckersley playing?
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3:53pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Whydidtheybanme?
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4:05pm Fri 8 Feb 13
srvp28
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4:10pm Fri 8 Feb 13
MxMave wrote:Are you for real? Firstly, how can Orr alone be culpable for their attack where they hit the post. The ball managed to get passed around until the shot was taken from the other side of the pitch. Secondly, even if it had been his fault that they got a chance it doesn't matter because they didn't score.
What game was appleton watching on Saturday then? Orr was culpable for thier attack where they hit the post, which was 1/3 of the chances they had that day. He wasn't terrible but he's not the quality we require @ ewood.
No defender, not even the likes of Vidic or Piqué, can go a couple of games without getting caught out by the opposition, that's part of the game. If every defender was perfect at their job then every game would finish 0-0.
The problem with some fans is they only seem to be happy when they've got something or someone to moan about.
greenscreener
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4:50pm Fri 8 Feb 13
srvp28 wrote:My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves.
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?
Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.
I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded.
On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
greenscreener
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4:52pm Fri 8 Feb 13
greenscreener wrote:I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.
srvp28 wrote:My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves.
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?
Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.
I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded.
On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
BRFC75
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5:10pm Fri 8 Feb 13
ChrisDeBerg wrote:Ice Hockey = Blackburn left winger /top goalscorer , zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
dangerous dave wrote:I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team.
ChrisDeBerg wrote:Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTIDdangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.Harwoodstblue wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good!
RTID
Leave DAVE ALONE you nincompoop.
trueblueaccy
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5:39pm Fri 8 Feb 13
1952 rover wrote:It's about knowing a good player or a liability you clown!! If you rate Orr as a good player it should be you who should **** off down bonleh u thick ****. He's got no positional sense/can't tackle/**** in the air and does nothin but blames everybody else when he does something wrong. In over 40 yrs he must rank as 1 of the worst full backs I've ever seen in a rovers shirt. So take of them blue and white specs cos we will win nothing with him @ full back. Lowe or Henley 4me!!
Halcyon wrote:Well Said. If they don't like it go and watch the Dingles, as they must like them more with all their calling of the Rovers.
can the orr haters not just get over it, sad ba$tards
ChrisDeBerg
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5:51pm Fri 8 Feb 13
BRFC75 wrote:Well you can go crawl back in your hole too! He comes on here constantly moaning and griping and annoying people. He never goes to games and thinks he can comment on players abilities (or staff at the club for that matter)?! Looks like you have an admirer Dave!
ChrisDeBerg wrote:Ice Hockey = Blackburn left winger /top goalscorer , zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
dangerous dave wrote:I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team.
ChrisDeBerg wrote:Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTIDdangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.Harwoodstblue wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good!
RTID
Leave DAVE ALONE you nincompoop.
RTID
intothevalley
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6:17pm Fri 8 Feb 13
ChrisDeBerg wrote:Wouldn't call Rhodes cheap!!!
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way!
dangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances!
DANGEROUS DAVE OUT
RTID
MattNewcastle
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6:32pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Bradley Orr is not the answer...
1 - He was and is limited in his ability.
2 - Not once did he or does he offer good service from the flank.
3 - His lack of pace means its easy for opposition to defend and attack our right flank.
4 - He does not have the pace to get beyond the right winger to get to the bye line in order to then pull the ball back for Rhodes / supporting box to box midfield players etc.
At least Kane Lowe and Olsson are all capable of doing this thus posing far more of a threat.
MattNewcastle
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6:36pm Fri 8 Feb 13
West Brom and Portsmouth the limits of his ambition?
Yes I know you will quote Campbell.
Just shows the limit of his knowledge to limit his search for improvements to two clubs.
MattNewcastle
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6:39pm Fri 8 Feb 13
srvp28 wrote:Hi SRVP
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?
Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.
I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc
No Pace
Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.
srvp28
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6:51pm Fri 8 Feb 13
greenscreener wrote:What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case.
greenscreener wrote:I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
srvp28
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6:58pm Fri 8 Feb 13
MattNewcastle wrote:Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived.
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.
In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing.
MattNewcastle
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7:06pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Pick out the best photo fit full backs and what do they all have in common.
Anderson / Baines / Cole / Pearce / Le Saux / Hird / Bailey /
MattNewcastle
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7:12pm Fri 8 Feb 13
srvp28 wrote:I totally respect your viewpoint, however, I would rather have Lowe than Orr at Right Back.
MattNewcastle wrote:Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived.
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.
In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing.
I guess this is what this forum is for to express differing views.
As for being an average side I hope that is not the case and we move up the table to a play off place and then who knows what may await us.
MattNewcastle
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7:13pm Fri 8 Feb 13
srvp28 wrote:I would say that the right back position has been a problem area for England for some time and still is.
MattNewcastle wrote:Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived.
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.
In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing.
bburnrover
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7:14pm Fri 8 Feb 13
greenscreener
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8:11pm Fri 8 Feb 13
srvp28 wrote:Clearly you know it was, goals coming from his being out of position and exposed as lacking pace even at championship level.
greenscreener wrote:What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case.
greenscreener wrote:I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
So we have different opinions on this, no big deal, personally I'd be happy if he improved and had some good games for us, just not my idea of a good defender.
dallydally
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8:25pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Neilb13
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8:44pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Angry From Accrington
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8:46pm Fri 8 Feb 13
1952 rover wrote:In what way, sad?
Angry From Accrington wrote:How Sad You Are.
As infectious as a virus
srvp28
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10:06pm Fri 8 Feb 13
greenscreener wrote:No, not clearly, it's that there were only two games in which Ipswich conceded more than 3 goals since he arrived. As I said, I've already pointed out to another poster that he wasn't at fault for three goals, only one. Funny though, people say that he's no good going forward yet say he gets caught out of position a lot. It can't be both. My idea of a defender, well full-back, is somebody that defends and only goes bombing forward if needs be. A lot of people on here want their full-backs to play as defenders and wingers all game long. Not every full-back can be Ashley Cole or Daniel Alves, certainly not at this level. Either way, you've not been impressed and that's your entitled opinion. Personally, I think he's had plenty of solid games already this season, including last week's game against Bristol City.
srvp28 wrote:Clearly you know it was, goals coming from his being out of position and exposed as lacking pace even at championship level. So we have different opinions on this, no big deal, personally I'd be happy if he improved and had some good games for us, just not my idea of a good defender.greenscreener wrote:What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case.greenscreener wrote:I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
CheltRover
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10:08pm Fri 8 Feb 13
srvp28 wrote:What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?
Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.
I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
srvp28
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10:23pm Fri 8 Feb 13
CheltRover wrote:Would you bad mouth your boss to the media?
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***
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9:23am Sat 9 Feb 13
intothevalley wrote:Is still cheap being paid for on the never never with a fat get out clause for him and the Venkys to get big pay off - £3m up front rest never never!!!!!!!!!!
ChrisDeBerg wrote:Wouldn't call Rhodes cheap!!!
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way!
dangerous dave wrote:Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances!
DANGEROUS DAVE OUT
RTID
No other investment what so ever other then freebies/loans
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
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12:32pm Sat 9 Feb 13
srvp28 wrote:No I wouldn't, clearly that wouldn't be good. The point I was making, in case you missed it, was Orr put himself into that position by courting the media right from the off. I lost count of the "quotes" from him and thought why does he think we are interested? Better to get your head down at your new club, put in some good performances, get the fans onside. It would've been OK if he'd been able to walk the walk, but he couldn't. Instead he made himself look foolish, and got people's backs up.
CheltRover wrote:Would you bad mouth your boss to the media?
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***
Maybe he'll learn this time around
srvp28
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2:16pm Sat 9 Feb 13
CheltRover wrote:Courted the media? Have a word with yourself, when players first arrive at clubs they're inevitably interviewed by the press. If he gets asked a question what's he supposed to say, "no comment"?
srvp28 wrote:No I wouldn't, clearly that wouldn't be good. The point I was making, in case you missed it, was Orr put himself into that position by courting the media right from the off. I lost count of the "quotes" from him and thought why does he think we are interested? Better to get your head down at your new club, put in some good performances, get the fans onside. It would've been OK if he'd been able to walk the walk, but he couldn't. Instead he made himself look foolish, and got people's backs up. Maybe he'll learn this time aroundCheltRover wrote:Would you bad mouth your boss to the media?srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***

Angry From Accrington says...
9:45am Fri 8 Feb 13