Appleton delivers action plan to Blackburn Rovers owners
12:00pm Tuesday 22nd January 2013 in Sport
By Chris Flanagan, Sports reporter
Michael Appleton
MICHAEL Appleton was due to meet Venky’s to discuss his January transfer plans ahead of tonight’s home match against Brighton, but he admits their absence from the game may help to improve the atmosphere at Ewood Park tonight.
Rovers’ owners received a frosty reception when they arrived at Ewood for Saturday’s home game against Charlton, for what was only Anuradha Desai’s second visit to Blackburn. Husband Jitendra was hit by a snowball on his arrival at the ground and Appleton admits protests against Venky’s made it an uncomfortable first match in charge of the club, as Charlton claimed a 2-1 win.
“They’re not coming to the game, I think it’s probably a good idea at the minute,” Appleton said.
“I think there will be a better atmosphere at the game. There was obviously a lot going on on Saturday, and there was a lot of negativity that probably didn’t need to be there.
“I think that did probably tell on the performance a little bit, but I’m not going to make excuses.”
But the new Rovers boss revealed he was due to meet the owners before their return to India and present them with a plan based on his observations since his arrival last week. “I’ve put an action plan together to give them and go through when I meet with them face to face,” he said yesterday.
“It’s pretty much a warts and all of what I think and where we need to go with the football club.
“Obviously that will include people that I might want to bring in full time or on loan. “But it’s not just about players coming in and going out, it’s my overview of where we need to go with the football club over the coming years.”
Appleton has already been linked with moves for Barnsley right back Scott Wiseman and West Brom centre back Craig Dawson, and admitted that he still rates both players highly – having tried to sign the pair during his brief spell at Blackpool.
He says the club’s recruitment process must improve ‘tenfold’ after admitting Rovers’ squad is too large and is overstocked in some areas but short in others. “I’ve always worked with a basis that if you work with maybe 20 or 22 players, if you have three or four injuries and all of a sudden you’re short, for the majority of time you can get a loan player,” said the boss, who confirmed that defender Bradley Orr will return from his loan at Ipswich next week.
“Working with a smaller squad it makes it more competitive, it makes the team more unified, there’s a little bit more togetherness. If you’re working with 40 players you can only have 18 players in the squad every week so there are going to be 20 players disappointed. That is going to take some time, this isn’t a short term thing.
“I think from a style of play point of view, in the wide areas we’ve got a lot of players who maybe play off the striker and are having to go and play in the wide areas because we haven’t got natural wide players.
“There are probably three or four areas of the pitch that we need to improve on, one of them is obviously in the wide areas and I still think we’re a little bit short up front.”
But Appleton says outgoings could also affect transfer activity.
Martin Olsson has been the subject of interest from West Ham and a resolution is expected soon on the future of Paul Robinson, who has fallen behind Jake Kean in the pecking order.
There have been suggestions that the keeper could be released from his contract.
“I’ve only spoken to Paul briefly because he’s been injured and I’m working with the players who are fit at the minute, but that will be a discussion that happens over the next week or so,” Appleton said.
“The impression I get is that he’s not in a massive rush to leave the football club.
“I think between myself, Paul and the board we’ll come out with the right solution that is obviously best for both parties.
“You’ve got the Martin Olsson situation as well and I have to make sure that if anything happens late in the window that I’m prepared for that.”
Reducing the wage bill is something that Appleton has prioritised, although not at the expense of results.
“The one thing I said I would do, and I will do, is I will reduce the wage bill but I’ll do it by not hurting the actual quality,” he said.
“The plan is to reduce the wage bill but improve the quality.”
Tonight’s game is a rearranged fixture from December.
Indeed, Rovers’ away match at Brighton has also been switched from this weekend when both sides are in FA Cup fourth round action. The trip south will now take place on Tuesday, February 12 – providing neither club need a replay in the cup.
ABOVE: Michael Appleton talks about his new role.
Comments(101)
1riversider
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12:22pm Tue 22 Jan 13
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
fishcake 75
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12:23pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Is Eckersley playing?
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12:23pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Sherwoodforest
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12:26pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Get ready for the summer sales !
AndyW
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12:31pm Tue 22 Jan 13
But how many hollow words have we heard in the last 2 years?
Actions speak louder than words, but a promising start nontheless.
tugay 4 ever
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12:37pm Tue 22 Jan 13
RoverTheHill
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12:43pm Tue 22 Jan 13
fishcake 75 wrote:Yakubu wasn't rated by Everton fans. - Success at Rovers
The latest news is appleton trying to get kevin phillips on loan from blackpool is this what he means by improving the quality? i have serious concerns about this man,getting orr back speaks volumes about his jugement so does trying to sign wiseman from barnsley,their own supporters say he his useless,this does not bode well for the future
Keith Andrews wasn't rated by Rovers fans - Success at West Brom
Orr is not as bad a player as many of you seem to make out, he also doubles up as a backup CB. It would make sense to bring him back considering we only have two experienced CB's at the club! (Givet not included as he wants to leave)
MatthewCA
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12:50pm Tue 22 Jan 13
MP is making all possible to reduce the players and keep up with the quality.
When we look, we got 15 midfeild players and none of them perform with a class. Get new attacking playmakers at the center and give some pace in the game.
johnny rover
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12:53pm Tue 22 Jan 13
owd nick
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12:57pm Tue 22 Jan 13
So starting tonight lets get behind him and whoever he puts out on the pitch.
We were stuffed by a crap side on Saturday, tonight's opponents are a totally different proposition, Rovers will need each and every one of us behind them.
forever blue and white
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1:00pm Tue 22 Jan 13
fishcake 75 wrote:I think if you look at recent seasons ( not this one ) teams with Kevin Phillips in the team have been closer to the top of the league than bottom. I would think he would be good for Rhodes. He would also make a good impact player. Something we are desperately short of at the minute. My only negative would be if we brought Phillips in what would be the point of Gomes being here. Both experienced players but at the end of their careers. They can pass on their experience to Rhodes but not sure we need two of them on the wage bill.
The latest news is appleton trying to get kevin phillips on loan from blackpool is this what he means by improving the quality? i have serious concerns about this man,getting orr back speaks volumes about his jugement so does trying to sign wiseman from barnsley,their own supporters say he his useless,this does not bode well for the future
moh
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1:03pm Tue 22 Jan 13
1riversider wrote:he s getting Orr back as well and he has said he will work with shebby on transfers.
Looks like he's already identified all the no hopers brought in by Shabby - there might be hope for us after all, if we can clear them out, and hopefully send Shabby packing as well. We can get round to removing Shaw and Agnew at a later date. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
dangerous dave
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1:03pm Tue 22 Jan 13
1riversider wrote:Certainly agree with the removal of Shaw Agnew and Singh plus the over rated, over paid has beens - but as form incoming moves only time will tell but dont hold your breath it looks like loans, freebies and some cheap transfers!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like he's already identified all the no hopers brought in by Shabby - there might be hope for us after all, if we can clear them out, and hopefully send Shabby packing as well. We can get round to removing Shaw and Agnew at a later date.
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
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Hope for 3 points tonight.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS
1952 rover
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1:06pm Tue 22 Jan 13
moh
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1:12pm Tue 22 Jan 13
1952 rover wrote:Madame will decide whether Shebby stays or not. After the abuse and snowball throwing she may not put hands in her pocket for transfers..
Let's hope he get rid of Shebby the Clown. Roberts Brothers need a new clown for the new season. Sold for nothing.
fishcake 75
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1:19pm Tue 22 Jan 13
ichards,lowe{ in midfield} and murphy are not good enough if dunny is fit he should be picked at least their would be no shortage of effort,nunes& gomes should also start we are desperately short of craft in midfield and a centre half that can head a ball use givet while he his still available ,come on mr appleton be brave and ring the changes, saturday was the worst display in many many years
fanny_tickler.
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1:21pm Tue 22 Jan 13
tugay 4 ever wrote:Excellent work Agent Appleton, they actually think you are talking sense... You couldn't make it up. Keep dropping those big names, Wiseman, Dawson, Phillips, etc and talk about reducing the wage bill ready for Operation League One... the natives are lapping it up!
Well said Michael Appleton, the first man to talk any sense at this club since the Hughes and Williams days.....real Rovers fans are behind you .
Mr Purple
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1:25pm Tue 22 Jan 13
In all seriousness, I am encouraged by what he has said so far. I don't care if it is all staged managed by a professional PR company, after all, we have been crying out for someone to manage the image of the club since these clowns took over and I would like to get back to the good old days when it was events on the pitch that were the headlines. It's going to be a good season next year, competing with Villa for a promotion spot. Here's hoping we sign a striker from Barcelona, just like Don did!
COYB
makaveli96
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1:27pm Tue 22 Jan 13
moh wrote:When does any women put her hands in her pocket?
1952 rover wrote: Let's hope he get rid of Shebby the Clown. Roberts Brothers need a new clown for the new season. Sold for nothing.Madame will decide whether Shebby stays or not. After the abuse and snowball throwing she may not put hands in her pocket for transfers..
My wife doesnt even get in a round at an All-Inclusive resort!
makaveli96
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1:35pm Tue 22 Jan 13
This is an excuse!
leitchy
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1:50pm Tue 22 Jan 13
However as for ambition and getting in to the Premier League and staying there then hes unproven.
But if the plan is to have him a season or 2 then push on with a proven manager im all for it....!!
COYB
benal13
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1:53pm Tue 22 Jan 13
phillyrovers
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1:53pm Tue 22 Jan 13
fishcake 75 wrote:I dont think getting Orr back is a bad judgement call. Let's take a real life example. You get a new job for a new company as a manager. You are in charge of 30 people, 1 of which is a remote worker and has a reputation (from your customers) for not being very good at what he does. Would you:
The latest news is appleton trying to get kevin phillips on loan from blackpool is this what he means by improving the quality? i have serious concerns about this man,getting orr back speaks volumes about his jugement so does trying to sign wiseman from barnsley,their own supporters say he his useless,this does not bode well for the future
a) Take your customers word for it and have him sacked and or made redundant?
b) Bring the employee back from his remote working location and monitor his performance and make a call from there?
I actually think given the current defensive situation at Rovers that this is a very very good call by Appleton, if Orr carries on to be abysmal then fair enough, get rid. If he turns out to be the defensive revelation we have been screaming out for, then this can only be a good thing.
He has spoke about getting older players to help the younger players come through, if this means signing Kevin Philips on loan for a few months, then fair enough.
benal13
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2:00pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Dukes
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2:01pm Tue 22 Jan 13
TIME venkys sell up and takes the whole clown with them.
French Rover
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2:02pm Tue 22 Jan 13
tugay 4 ever wrote:fair comment T4E - but talk is a cheap commodity at the Rovers and has been for two seasons now. But fair play to the bloke, he tells it like it is, without the faux positive slants of the odious one. Which is a nice change and he seems to have the same sort of views as most of our most sensible fans on here, as to what we need to do and where we need to do it, so as to improve the team and the performances. A decent result in tonight's game will go a long way in establishing some credibility for our new manager. 2-1 to the Rovers. Allez les Bleus!
Well said Michael Appleton, the first man to talk any sense at this club since the Hughes and Williams days.....real Rovers fans are behind you .
Dan11
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2:04pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Angry From Accrington
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2:08pm Tue 22 Jan 13
benal13
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2:12pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Hovis1945
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2:12pm Tue 22 Jan 13
merlinrabbit
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2:28pm Tue 22 Jan 13
fanny_tickler. wrote:Joking aside I did have the same thought reading everybody's comments. What has he actually said? Protests affected the game, he has a plan, he has to cut costs(last two managers have had same task hence getting rid of better players ),he's looking at the squad. Each new manager has spoken like they are in charge but we all know it's never the case. I've grown immune. It's going to take tangible evidence that a)venkys are in fact listening to himand b)some semblance of order resumes on the pitch
tugay 4 ever wrote:Excellent work Agent Appleton, they actually think you are talking sense... You couldn't make it up. Keep dropping those big names, Wiseman, Dawson, Phillips, etc and talk about reducing the wage bill ready for Operation League One... the natives are lapping it up!
Well said Michael Appleton, the first man to talk any sense at this club since the Hughes and Williams days.....real Rovers fans are behind you .
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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2:29pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
merlinrabbit
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2:38pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Hovis1945 wrote:What's the crack with the half season ticket holders?
I think Rovers have slipped up by not letting the half season ticket holders into the match. Given the woeful display on Saturday and the weather we need as many in Ewood as possible hopefully backing the team to a surprise win.
Harwoodstblue
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2:38pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
chickenfarm
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2:38pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Hold onto your hats these will be one bumpy ride that will end costing millions yet again.
Well done Shaw you will take another football club to the wall.
Is Eckersley playing?
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2:44pm Tue 22 Jan 13
benal13 wrote:Come again!
at least if phillips dos come we will be cant be accused of not helping the aged every one else looks to the future WE LOOK TO THE PAST come to the circuse and boost your pension fund it gets worse !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
benal13
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2:51pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:what planet are you on numb nuts i bet your employed by the venkys, cleaning the bogs because you always post cr@P!!!!!!!!
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
noddymcleod
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2:52pm Tue 22 Jan 13
I note that Ipswich aren't desperate to keep him.
Whatever Apple says it's venkys who run the club and they hired him for his experience of tidying up a mess at Pompey to allow an absent owner to pull out.
Rovers need a two to three year plan to get some stability, does anyone seriously think that's also Venky's plan ?
The most sensible plan for Apple is to sit down with Bowyer and say "sorry you missed out, mate, but you know the squad, let me pick your brains".
I would be mightily relieved to hear or read that's being done and I'd appreciate some honest statement by Apple about his future relationship with the duo who did well as temps.
As for Phillips, a good idea, but we have one good old head to help Rhodes and that's Nunes, just drop "I'm here to tweat, not play" Kazim.
Harwoodstblue
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3:06pm Tue 22 Jan 13
benal13 wrote:He He...He is a Dingle.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:what planet are you on numb nuts i bet your employed by the venkys, cleaning the bogs because you always post cr@P!!!!!!!!
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
inflightmagazine
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3:07pm Tue 22 Jan 13
The atmosphere at saturdays game was awful, understandable and I am not sure why venkys chose that game to come too really. I don`t think MA`s comment about them not coming to the game is an accident, people came with a point to make saturday and it was made. for some to over the top for others a public flogging would not have been enough, nevertheless, it was made and tonight as fans we should let it go for now. What have we got to lose by trying to get behind the team. If those who say there is no chance now are right, then lets just go for the crack and try to avoid feeling like mass suicide is a viable proposition every time we leave the ground. If their wrong then happy days we scrape into the play offs and who knows, it just not make sense to right the season off with 19 games to go.
Harwoodstblue
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3:13pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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3:16pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:Showing your age there little man. If you know who the antagonists are, name and shame them.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Were you the idiot with the industrial language, I hope they prosecute.
Harwoodstblue
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3:22pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:" Goodbye.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Showing your age there little man. If you know who the antagonists are, name and shame them.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Were you the idiot with the industrial language, I hope they prosecute.
Boring.
benal13
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3:24pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:rovers are after sponsership from HELP THE AGED thats the jist of it !!!!!!!!!!
benal13 wrote:Come again!
at least if phillips dos come we will be cant be accused of not helping the aged every one else looks to the future WE LOOK TO THE PAST come to the circuse and boost your pension fund it gets worse !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
benal13
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3:29pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:are you a reincarnation of RU INSANE if so there should be a nine in your username somewhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:" Goodbye.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Showing your age there little man. If you know who the antagonists are, name and shame them.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Were you the idiot with the industrial language, I hope they prosecute.
Boring.
??????????
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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3:39pm Tue 22 Jan 13
benal13 wrote:What are you jabbering on about, reincarnation, are you a Hindu or something. I'm saying that Appleton will be lucky if they even acknowledge our existence after last weekends fiasco.
Harwoodstblue wrote:are you a reincarnation of RU INSANE if so there should be a nine in your username somewhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:" Goodbye.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Showing your age there little man. If you know who the antagonists are, name and shame them.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Were you the idiot with the industrial language, I hope they prosecute.
Boring.
??????????
Anyway I must admit that appleton is the first person to admit we lack natural width, I just hope he also recognises a static midfield and a flakey back four
If Givet definitely leaves we will need another centre back and if Olsson follows him we will need another out and out fullback both left and right. Unless he thinks Orr can do a job.
stick to football
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3:44pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Anyone who knows anything about football will know a Rovers Return is a long process witha lot of hrad work and more than a few up and downs on the way.
What he says makes sense and if GB can bring on the Academy players to augment the smaller squad that is how it should be
Those who expect instant results GET REAL - lets consolidate and build for the future this season because if we got up we have not the quality needed to be competitive but an unbeaten run starting tonight would be great for everyone - so lets unite and focus on the football on the pitch and forget the politics upstairs which we wont influence one iota however many snowballs are thrown - sad idea -
fishcake 75
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3:56pm Tue 22 Jan 13
forever blue and white wrote:come on if kevin phillips was 30 yesbut in his 40th year
fishcake 75 wrote:I think if you look at recent seasons ( not this one ) teams with Kevin Phillips in the team have been closer to the top of the league than bottom. I would think he would be good for Rhodes. He would also make a good impact player. Something we are desperately short of at the minute. My only negative would be if we brought Phillips in what would be the point of Gomes being here. Both experienced players but at the end of their careers. They can pass on their experience to Rhodes but not sure we need two of them on the wage bill.
The latest news is appleton trying to get kevin phillips on loan from blackpool is this what he means by improving the quality? i have serious concerns about this man,getting orr back speaks volumes about his jugement so does trying to sign wiseman from barnsley,their own supporters say he his useless,this does not bode well for the future
fishcake 75
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4:02pm Tue 22 Jan 13
stick to football wrote:Any young players coming throgh the academy that shw true quality will then be sold ie jones, by that time we will have dropped down n or two divisions
Give Appleton a chance and time.
Anyone who knows anything about football will know a Rovers Return is a long process witha lot of hrad work and more than a few up and downs on the way.
What he says makes sense and if GB can bring on the Academy players to augment the smaller squad that is how it should be
Those who expect instant results GET REAL - lets consolidate and build for the future this season because if we got up we have not the quality needed to be competitive but an unbeaten run starting tonight would be great for everyone - so lets unite and focus on the football on the pitch and forget the politics upstairs which we wont influence one iota however many snowballs are thrown - sad idea -
gleechy
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4:12pm Tue 22 Jan 13
The sheer contempt that they show for any good suggestions on how to move a football club forward is staggering.
They are not for changing. If they were unhappy at taking the club down, they haven't shown it.
They still can't be bothered to listen to all the free advice to get a tried and tested manager for any chance of ressurecting their failed attempt at running a top football club.
They don't want to sell, how much more is there to ruin? They're not here for the football that's clear.
The recent hatred from fans was inevitable, they've tossed many of their letters of disgust aside for the last two years,how else would ordinary paying customers communicate with such aloof people.
gleechy
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4:15pm Tue 22 Jan 13
moh wrote:Oh shut up did they think they were coming to the opening of a nursery school that they had dissmantled?
1952 rover wrote:Madame will decide whether Shebby stays or not. After the abuse and snowball throwing she may not put hands in her pocket for transfers..
Let's hope he get rid of Shebby the Clown. Roberts Brothers need a new clown for the new season. Sold for nothing.
merlinrabbit
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4:20pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Jarrod, you have been watching too many cowboy films. Fiasco? Lynch mob? For goodness sake, have you got OCD? Either that or you arent actually a Rovers fan and that's why you arent able to talk about the actual football side. Burnley fan I suspect most strongly.
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
benal13
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4:20pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:well said gleechy !!!!!!!!!!!
moh wrote:Oh shut up did they think they were coming to the opening of a nursery school that they had dissmantled?
1952 rover wrote:Madame will decide whether Shebby stays or not. After the abuse and snowball throwing she may not put hands in her pocket for transfers..
Let's hope he get rid of Shebby the Clown. Roberts Brothers need a new clown for the new season. Sold for nothing.
gleechy
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4:20pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:So after getting what's been coming these dynamic business people will shut up shop and cut their noses off to spite their faces? could be they have done dafter things.
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
gleechy
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4:23pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What football have you been watching? Do all supporters say I hate you to opposing fans in your world of Venks dreams? Are you a teacher or better still a head teacher?
Harwoodstblue wrote:Showing your age there little man. If you know who the antagonists are, name and shame them.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
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Were you the idiot with the industrial language, I hope they prosecute.
eddie the eagle
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4:36pm Tue 22 Jan 13
The above statement says loud and clear back me or sack me, so lets forget calls for Shaw out, he's nailed his clours to the mast and will walk the plank if this last throw fails.Shaw is not the best leader I'll admit but he's all weve got.so get behind the new regime Appleton needs all the help he can get,
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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4:39pm Tue 22 Jan 13
merlinrabbit wrote:I would talk football with anyone, but having replied to you before, it is obvious it would be like explaining the offside rule to Jade Goodey, god bless her, as you know very little about the beautiful game. So better we stick to something you know about, like bullying women and kids and thinking its okay to dishonour the badge.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Jarrod, you have been watching too many cowboy films. Fiasco? Lynch mob? For goodness sake, have you got OCD? Either that or you arent actually a Rovers fan and that's why you arent able to talk about the actual football side. Burnley fan I suspect most strongly.
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
Now back to football matters so you can turn off now, the problem is the side has been lacking balance, everything has been coming down the left. Its only recently we have been playing vuekevic or richards on the right which is not their natural position, thats why richards drifts and vuekevic is more of a central midfielder, or thats where he plays for his national side. So what we need is more natural width on the right. We have too many left sided players in midfield all vying for one position also as our centre midfielders are as static as I am since my knee packed in we need some more dynamics in there. If we could get someone in to drive the play forward, it would take pressure off our flakey back four. this in turn will breed confidence. I also think that fitness levels, although improving, are not quite where they should be.
So Mr Appleton if you sort out some width and get better service to Rhodes we will become less one dimensional and be harder to play against
roverinmanchstr
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4:40pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:Absolutely...Action Plan!!!! Venkys!!!! What a laugh..Totally incomprehensive..Wha
I hope he's included lots of pages. These Venks will need somewhere to wipe their 4rses.
The sheer contempt that they show for any good suggestions on how to move a football club forward is staggering.
They are not for changing. If they were unhappy at taking the club down, they haven't shown it.
They still can't be bothered to listen to all the free advice to get a tried and tested manager for any chance of ressurecting their failed attempt at running a top football club.
They don't want to sell, how much more is there to ruin? They're not here for the football that's clear.
The recent hatred from fans was inevitable, they've tossed many of their letters of disgust aside for the last two years,how else would ordinary paying customers communicate with such aloof people.
t a joke
moh
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4:48pm Tue 22 Jan 13
benal13 wrote:face reality, don't live in cuckoo land.
gleechy wrote:well said gleechy !!!!!!!!!!!moh wrote:Oh shut up did they think they were coming to the opening of a nursery school that they had dissmantled?1952 rover wrote: Let's hope he get rid of Shebby the Clown. Roberts Brothers need a new clown for the new season. Sold for nothing.Madame will decide whether Shebby stays or not. After the abuse and snowball throwing she may not put hands in her pocket for transfers..
Is Eckersley playing?
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4:48pm Tue 22 Jan 13
You're loyal fans and the salt of the earth who have had a raw deal for over two years. Hope you have something positive to cheer, watch your footing , keep warm and I look forward to seeing your comments on here tomorrow.
Harwoodstblue
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4:50pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:It's been blatantly obvious to any knowledgeable Rovers fan what is needed, since Anderson, Kean and lately Singh threw a bunch of football players together without any thought, and expected it to be a team.
merlinrabbit wrote:I would talk football with anyone, but having replied to you before, it is obvious it would be like explaining the offside rule to Jade Goodey, god bless her, as you know very little about the beautiful game. So better we stick to something you know about, like bullying women and kids and thinking its okay to dishonour the badge.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Jarrod, you have been watching too many cowboy films. Fiasco? Lynch mob? For goodness sake, have you got OCD? Either that or you arent actually a Rovers fan and that's why you arent able to talk about the actual football side. Burnley fan I suspect most strongly.
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
Now back to football matters so you can turn off now, the problem is the side has been lacking balance, everything has been coming down the left. Its only recently we have been playing vuekevic or richards on the right which is not their natural position, thats why richards drifts and vuekevic is more of a central midfielder, or thats where he plays for his national side. So what we need is more natural width on the right. We have too many left sided players in midfield all vying for one position also as our centre midfielders are as static as I am since my knee packed in we need some more dynamics in there. If we could get someone in to drive the play forward, it would take pressure off our flakey back four. this in turn will breed confidence. I also think that fitness levels, although improving, are not quite where they should be.
So Mr Appleton if you sort out some width and get better service to Rhodes we will become less one dimensional and be harder to play against
shortsy
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4:51pm Tue 22 Jan 13
A thorough squad and backroom overhaul is required and there is plenty of deadwood and moneygrabbers to pick from.
BRFC need players up for the game and ready to give all for the cause.
Best hope the actions of the mentally deficient at the weekend have dampened what could be a turning point.
It would also be good if BRAG and BRIST could keep there inflatory opinions to themselves until MA has at least been able to stamp his authority within Ewood.
Will P
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4:52pm Tue 22 Jan 13
stick to football wrote:I agree, I think we now need to focus on rebuilding. I have a feeling we could do a Middlesbrough, where it'll take us about two or three years to challenge for promotion.
Give Appleton a chance and time.
Anyone who knows anything about football will know a Rovers Return is a long process witha lot of hrad work and more than a few up and downs on the way.
What he says makes sense and if GB can bring on the Academy players to augment the smaller squad that is how it should be
Those who expect instant results GET REAL - lets consolidate and build for the future this season because if we got up we have not the quality needed to be competitive but an unbeaten run starting tonight would be great for everyone - so lets unite and focus on the football on the pitch and forget the politics upstairs which we wont influence one iota however many snowballs are thrown - sad idea -
There is a slim chance we could pull off a result against Brighton tonight, but to expect it is just unrealistic. They have a very good away record and play a passing game which we, if Brighton have a good night, cannot compete with yet. Bridcutt will out do both our centre mids. God help Olsson against Buckley...
There are always going to be patient fans and then fans who want their cake now. I'd rather wait to build a team which can get promotion then stay in the premier league.
If we got promoted now, we'd get slaughtered in the premier league. We'd have to invest money that the Venky's simply wouldn't spend to stay up.
Regards to transfers, the Venky's should of seen that their major transfer delivers on the rare occasion he is given a chance. Rhodes has been fantastic. If we don't go up (which we most likely won't) then keeping Rhodes is going to be our next battle.
I'd love us to win tonight, but it's early days.
Realistic prediction : 1-3
What I wish for: 2-0
jackmetickler
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4:54pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:what cloud are you on...
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
look what these muppets have done since they took over and the one rare chance we have of letting them know how we feel.....
you reckon we shud kiss @rse.
get your pinny on and get my tea on the table ...... its Pie and Peas on tuesday.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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4:55pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:Far be it for me to point this out to you but, there is a bit of a difference at hurling industrial insults at opposing supporters who are 150 yards away whilst they are hurling them back.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What football have you been watching? Do all supporters say I hate you to opposing fans in your world of Venks dreams? Are you a teacher or better still a head teacher?
Harwoodstblue wrote:Showing your age there little man. If you know who the antagonists are, name and shame them.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Were you the idiot with the industrial language, I hope they prosecute.
Unless of course the bit where the women and children who were present and right in the lynch mobs faces hurled industrial venomous replies, unfortunately everyones cameras had run out of batteries by this time so they didn't catch. Mrs Desai arming herself with a bag of snowballs whilst the 12 year old girl screamed this is sparta at the quaking antagonists and mrs desais husband did an impression of abraham lincoln vampire slayer using the fire axe out of the foyer
Mmmm thought not, so it was all one way then. Be proud of yourselves whoever you nomarks are.
jonjonweatherman
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5:02pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy
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5:02pm Tue 22 Jan 13
steve18gls
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5:04pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Sherwoodforest wrote:thats the best thing that has come out of ewood for a long time. there are far too many players just creaming off their wages and dont give a **** about rovers.It is the first time that any manager in the last couple of years has acutally sat down and analysed what the team needs are short term and recommended either right or wrong (time will tell) how the club should progress. The guys must be given a chance at least !
" I will reduce the wage bill "
Get ready for the summer sales !
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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5:09pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:So our differences aside, instead of just saying its obvious, stick yer neck out and explain what needs doing.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:It's been blatantly obvious to any knowledgeable Rovers fan what is needed, since Anderson, Kean and lately Singh threw a bunch of football players together without any thought, and expected it to be a team.
merlinrabbit wrote:I would talk football with anyone, but having replied to you before, it is obvious it would be like explaining the offside rule to Jade Goodey, god bless her, as you know very little about the beautiful game. So better we stick to something you know about, like bullying women and kids and thinking its okay to dishonour the badge.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Jarrod, you have been watching too many cowboy films. Fiasco? Lynch mob? For goodness sake, have you got OCD? Either that or you arent actually a Rovers fan and that's why you arent able to talk about the actual football side. Burnley fan I suspect most strongly.
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
Now back to football matters so you can turn off now, the problem is the side has been lacking balance, everything has been coming down the left. Its only recently we have been playing vuekevic or richards on the right which is not their natural position, thats why richards drifts and vuekevic is more of a central midfielder, or thats where he plays for his national side. So what we need is more natural width on the right. We have too many left sided players in midfield all vying for one position also as our centre midfielders are as static as I am since my knee packed in we need some more dynamics in there. If we could get someone in to drive the play forward, it would take pressure off our flakey back four. this in turn will breed confidence. I also think that fitness levels, although improving, are not quite where they should be.
So Mr Appleton if you sort out some width and get better service to Rhodes we will become less one dimensional and be harder to play against
Another thing is to compensate for our lack of pace in midfield and in the baxk four, we are playing too deep. This invites too much pressure on our flakey back four who usually buckle under it. We need to push the play 15 yards further forward. Make the opposition worry about us, not the other way round. To action that I would make Hanley lose a stone and work on his ability to cover ground quicker. Scott Dann should take more aerial responsibility and stop fannying around. One should go, one should drop, jesus its not difficult, they aren't working as a pair because no-one is taking resposibility, no one is saying, you go and I'll drop, how easy is it FFS. Any football input from you at this jucture would be good
Sherwoodforest
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5:12pm Tue 22 Jan 13
steve18gls wrote:Any player who can command a decent fee will be sold in the summer.
Sherwoodforest wrote:thats the best thing that has come out of ewood for a long time. there are far too many players just creaming off their wages and dont give a **** about rovers.It is the first time that any manager in the last couple of years has acutally sat down and analysed what the team needs are short term and recommended either right or wrong (time will tell) how the club should progress. The guys must be given a chance at least !
" I will reduce the wage bill "
Get ready for the summer sales !
Whilst I agree that some players are creaming a living, it won't just be them that are sold.
They will sell players and slash the wage bill, to pay for their sheer incompetence over the past 26 months.
JR included
tiojo
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5:13pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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5:15pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first.
Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?
Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
You couldn't make it up!
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5:16pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy
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5:32pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What the heck are you bringging the Titanic into a Rover's forum for, is it something to do with your loyal master's running of our club?
gleechy wrote:Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first.
Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?
Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
I'm not in a boat, please check you have assistance before leaving the house.
Supernova531
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5:39pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Generally agree with a lot of the comments made about players MA like us has seen teams all season who are quicker to the ball, win the 50/50s or second ball, defend resolutely and break at pace. They are also able to run for the full 90 minutes which our players do not seem able to do.
The conclusions therefore are easy the players are not fit enough, not good enough and don't care enough.
I agree with MA re transfers too but do feel we are very weak at the back.
If Mr Appleton has a plan is honest and sticks to it the rovers fans will back him its as simple as that.
moh
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5:54pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:shameful behaviour from some so called fans on saturday against desai family. Other sensible rovers fans at work were disgusted at watching the recording.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What the heck are you bringging the Titanic into a Rover's forum for, is it something to do with your loyal master's running of our club? I'm not in a boat, please check you have assistance before leaving the house.gleechy wrote: Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first. Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
dangerous dave
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5:59pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Jarrod - you **** - you want to read a' true legends' (not one who rips off friends and neighbors) remarks about the Venkys visit to Ewood last Saturday - SIMON GARNER - 'ARROGANCE AND INSENSIVITY ' OF THE VENKYS on Blackburn Rovers Supporters Investment Trust and then put your £10 in the kitty!!!!!!!!!!!!
gleechy wrote:Far be it for me to point this out to you but, there is a bit of a difference at hurling industrial insults at opposing supporters who are 150 yards away whilst they are hurling them back.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What football have you been watching? Do all supporters say I hate you to opposing fans in your world of Venks dreams? Are you a teacher or better still a head teacher?
Harwoodstblue wrote:Showing your age there little man. If you know who the antagonists are, name and shame them.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Were you the idiot with the industrial language, I hope they prosecute.
Unless of course the bit where the women and children who were present and right in the lynch mobs faces hurled industrial venomous replies, unfortunately everyones cameras had run out of batteries by this time so they didn't catch. Mrs Desai arming herself with a bag of snowballs whilst the 12 year old girl screamed this is sparta at the quaking antagonists and mrs desais husband did an impression of abraham lincoln vampire slayer using the fire axe out of the foyer
Mmmm thought not, so it was all one way then. Be proud of yourselves whoever you nomarks are.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS COAR
dangerous dave
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6:01pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Jarrod - you **** - you want to read a' true legends' (not one who rips off friends and neighbors) remarks about the Venkys visit to Ewood last Saturday - SIMON GARNER - 'ARROGANCE AND INSENSIVITY ' OF THE VENKYS on Blackburn Rovers Supporters Investment Trust and then put your £10 in the kitty!!!!!!!!!!!!
gleechy wrote:Far be it for me to point this out to you but, there is a bit of a difference at hurling industrial insults at opposing supporters who are 150 yards away whilst they are hurling them back.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What football have you been watching? Do all supporters say I hate you to opposing fans in your world of Venks dreams? Are you a teacher or better still a head teacher?
Harwoodstblue wrote:Showing your age there little man. If you know who the antagonists are, name and shame them.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Yawn, Boring
Harwoodstblue wrote:Crack monkey
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:R. Sole...........Dingl
And here is where Mr Appleton finds out the damage caused by the lunatics from last saturday. After Venkys took a load of verbal abuse he will get told he's on his own and will have to sell.Then once sold they will keep the money and tell him to make do with the Kean and Shebby rubbish thats left behind. I'd be very suprised if they made funds available after saturdays fiasco
Well done lynch mob you can be real proud of your achievements
e.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Were you the idiot with the industrial language, I hope they prosecute.
Unless of course the bit where the women and children who were present and right in the lynch mobs faces hurled industrial venomous replies, unfortunately everyones cameras had run out of batteries by this time so they didn't catch. Mrs Desai arming herself with a bag of snowballs whilst the 12 year old girl screamed this is sparta at the quaking antagonists and mrs desais husband did an impression of abraham lincoln vampire slayer using the fire axe out of the foyer
Mmmm thought not, so it was all one way then. Be proud of yourselves whoever you nomarks are.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS COAR
gleechy
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6:02pm Tue 22 Jan 13
moh wrote:Are you his carer?
gleechy wrote:shameful behaviour from some so called fans on saturday against desai family. Other sensible rovers fans at work were disgusted at watching the recording.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What the heck are you bringging the Titanic into a Rover's forum for, is it something to do with your loyal master's running of our club? I'm not in a boat, please check you have assistance before leaving the house.gleechy wrote: Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first. Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
What has this got to do with the oprice of cheese?
Shulz, see me in my office, and drop the Titanic stories,it doesn't fit into the debate and nobody knows what you are on about,
roverinmanchstr
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6:09pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:Moh you're an idiot!!!! Venky's have screwed the club
moh wrote:Are you his carer? What has this got to do with the oprice of cheese? Shulz, see me in my office, and drop the Titanic stories,it doesn't fit into the debate and nobody knows what you are on about,gleechy wrote:shameful behaviour from some so called fans on saturday against desai family. Other sensible rovers fans at work were disgusted at watching the recording.Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What the heck are you bringging the Titanic into a Rover's forum for, is it something to do with your loyal master's running of our club? I'm not in a boat, please check you have assistance before leaving the house.gleechy wrote: Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first. Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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6:14pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:Just trying to point out that in my world, women and children don't get treated like 2nd class animals or something you have stepped in, which seems to be the acceptable standards by which you live.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What the heck are you bringging the Titanic into a Rover's forum for, is it something to do with your loyal master's running of our club?
gleechy wrote:Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first.
Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?
Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
I'm not in a boat, please check you have assistance before leaving the house.
Is that clear enough fo all you women a kid haters?
I am disgusted by such behaviour, I was always taught, treat a woman and a child how you would treat your mother, think about that one for a while before you come back foaming at the mouth, would you have been happy if your mother was treated in the same way?
hasslem hasslem
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6:16pm Tue 22 Jan 13
jonjonweatherman wrote:at newcastle gordon lee famously had a go at supermac macdonald for playing for england not scotland - macdonald asked lee - "how come you don't manage china then?"
Appleton reminds me very much a Gordon Lee, in I think 1974. Lee sold every player he could get a fee for and then kicked out virtually all the rest replacing them with hard working journeymen footballers. His sides lacked flair or charisma but he got us the 3rd division tittle before going to Newcastle where you can imagine how popular he was with the Geordies with his mundane unimaginative approach to the game
Captain Dreckley
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6:17pm Tue 22 Jan 13
juanbbien
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6:19pm Tue 22 Jan 13
jonjonweatherman wrote:Gordon Lee,s time here was for me one of the best,and I have supported the Rovers since nineteen fifty eight, no prima-donas just eleven players giving one hundred percent you can't ask for more and it would be nice for this lot to emulate Lee,s ethics
Appleton reminds me very much a Gordon Lee, in I think 1974. Lee sold every player he could get a fee for and then kicked out virtually all the rest replacing them with hard working journeymen footballers. His sides lacked flair or charisma but he got us the 3rd division tittle before going to Newcastle where you can imagine how popular he was with the Geordies with his mundane unimaginative approach to the game
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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6:31pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:Thats all okay, but I've come on here, stuck my gizzard neck out and said exactly what wrong on the pitch, all you have done is parted with cheap shots about my opinion on how women and kids should be treated, so as you pointed out this forum is for debating football matters, have you any opinions on what needs to be done on the pitch? or are you just gonna dish out childish insults and think you can bluff your way out of knowing nothing?
moh wrote:Are you his carer?
gleechy wrote:shameful behaviour from some so called fans on saturday against desai family. Other sensible rovers fans at work were disgusted at watching the recording.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What the heck are you bringging the Titanic into a Rover's forum for, is it something to do with your loyal master's running of our club? I'm not in a boat, please check you have assistance before leaving the house.gleechy wrote: Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first. Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
What has this got to do with the oprice of cheese?
Shulz, see me in my office, and drop the Titanic stories,it doesn't fit into the debate and nobody knows what you are on about,
glp
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6:34pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Venkys have got rid of all the Premiership big earners in the 2 years they have been in charge. The quality in this squad of players is amongst the worst I have seen in my time of following Rovers. Most of the squad are kids or has-beens why are they on big wages ????
Sherwoodforest
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6:46pm Tue 22 Jan 13
These two alone cost the club around 4m in total.
Harwoodstblue
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6:56pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:Because they're bonkers and they've proved it over and over again with their ridiculous decision making.
Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?
Wellsy11
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7:01pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Now read between the lines - how are rovers going to improve their position by LOWERING the wage bill!?!? I know we have a large squad with some poor players, but to get promoted (as venkys state they want!) we have to INVEST!! Leicester - sign woods, Cardiff - sign Campbell - on low wages? My arse!! We are going nowhere but mid-table if we are lucky.
Still think the snowball was uncalled for??
duggie123
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7:06pm Tue 22 Jan 13
RoverTheHill wrote:orr wouldnt get a game at acy stanley.keep him out and take dann with him, propably the worse defenders I have seen at ewood in the last thirty years
fishcake 75 wrote:Yakubu wasn't rated by Everton fans. - Success at Rovers
The latest news is appleton trying to get kevin phillips on loan from blackpool is this what he means by improving the quality? i have serious concerns about this man,getting orr back speaks volumes about his jugement so does trying to sign wiseman from barnsley,their own supporters say he his useless,this does not bode well for the future
Keith Andrews wasn't rated by Rovers fans - Success at West Brom
Orr is not as bad a player as many of you seem to make out, he also doubles up as a backup CB. It would make sense to bring him back considering we only have two experienced CB's at the club! (Givet not included as he wants to leave)
gleechy
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7:07pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Is it possible for you to lure yourself away from your self righteous feelings and totally inaccurate summing up of my type to realise that we share the same view of how Women and children should be treated?
gleechy wrote:Just trying to point out that in my world, women and children don't get treated like 2nd class animals or something you have stepped in, which seems to be the acceptable standards by which you live.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What the heck are you bringging the Titanic into a Rover's forum for, is it something to do with your loyal master's running of our club?
gleechy wrote:Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first.
Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?
Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
I'm not in a boat, please check you have assistance before leaving the house.
Is that clear enough fo all you women a kid haters?
I am disgusted by such behaviour, I was always taught, treat a woman and a child how you would treat your mother, think about that one for a while before you come back foaming at the mouth, would you have been happy if your mother was treated in the same way?
I was trying to point out that the Venks were going to a football match, with all kinds of people who have been very angry at them for such a long time now for the dissembowelment of their club.
Why do you wrongly see me as a child and woman hater for that?
You really need to stop jumping the gun and then calling me with your inaccurate assumptions.
Now go and stand in the corner.
Nuttall Street
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7:11pm Tue 22 Jan 13
1. Summarily dismiss for incompetence and neglect The Global Adviser, Agnew, Shaw, Coar and Hendry. Replace them with the man who threw the snow ball. He seems committed and looks like he works cheap.
2. Terminate the PR Firm. They cost a fortune, contribute nothing and their penchant for the owners turning up in a fleet of Rolls Royces like the Maharajas of Blackburn adds further to the overheads.
3. Ban the Venkys form visiting Ewood Park. Their expenses billed to the club are not merited when we only get 65 minutes out of them and not the full 90. In any event Vindaloo is so badly dressed that he gives the impression that the club is owned by gangsters.
4. Stop firing managers every couple of months. It is now apparent that the Venkys are so bad that it doesn't make any difference who the manager is. We have had our best periods by far since BFS left when we have been without a manager. Going back to the chap who threw the snowball, he seems to have a good eye for line and length so why not give him the job next time.
Wellsy11
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7:16pm Tue 22 Jan 13
tiojo wrote:Bang - on!!
'Reducing the wage bill' is a priority for the club. As it prepares for a long stay in the Championship at best. And with gates heading below 10,000 more likely Division 1. It doesn't take long for mismanagement by the owners to take serious effect.
Out- samba, Kalinic, hoilett, nzonzi, yak, Salgado, nelson to name a few
Left for large sums or big reduction of wage bill.
In - Rhodes, dann, best & goodwillie
Only real "investment" shown
What's the nett p&l?? Committed to promotion, my ****
Wellsy11
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7:18pm Tue 22 Jan 13
gleechy wrote:Jeez!! I thought this was about football...
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:Is it possible for you to lure yourself away from your self righteous feelings and totally inaccurate summing up of my type to realise that we share the same view of how Women and children should be treated?
gleechy wrote:Just trying to point out that in my world, women and children don't get treated like 2nd class animals or something you have stepped in, which seems to be the acceptable standards by which you live.
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:What the heck are you bringging the Titanic into a Rover's forum for, is it something to do with your loyal master's running of our club?
gleechy wrote:Grow up boy, I can just imagine you when the titanic was going down, sat there in the life boat saying we're all equal and i'm not moving for anyone, they wanted equal rights, instead of women and children first.
Definately a teacher four out of ten for observation. PC more important than common sense. Why did they bring children along to the top table of hate, would you?
Be a man, and not a fanny, get out the boat and let the kid go first.
I'm not in a boat, please check you have assistance before leaving the house.
Is that clear enough fo all you women a kid haters?
I am disgusted by such behaviour, I was always taught, treat a woman and a child how you would treat your mother, think about that one for a while before you come back foaming at the mouth, would you have been happy if your mother was treated in the same way?
I was trying to point out that the Venks were going to a football match, with all kinds of people who have been very angry at them for such a long time now for the dissembowelment of their club.
Why do you wrongly see me as a child and woman hater for that?
You really need to stop jumping the gun and then calling me with your inaccurate assumptions.
Now go and stand in the corner.
Phil Simpson
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7:25pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Talk about putting one's job on the line. I don't think they like seeing what they don't want to!
goldfinger59
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7:54pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Dr Zinc
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8:26pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Don't get me wrong players need to go, but they need replacing by better players.
Not with the likes of Orr!
Some of you on here have a very short memory...he was awful
The other names like WIseman hardly inspires, I know we are not going to get true quality but a lot of your standards on this forum seem to dissipate by the day.
Appletons 'experience' of working with a squad of 22 just underlines his limited background and the poor teams that he has managed, This was because of the economic constraints of those clubs.
Which clearly now applies to us
Appletons
Is Eckersley playing?
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8:47pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Nuttall Street wrote:Hey that's a good plan, Nuttall Street. I'm with you!
Here is a simple, but effective plan that will make a sizeable eduction in the wage bill, can be implemented immediately, and is guarranteed to improve the quality:
1. Summarily dismiss for incompetence and neglect The Global Adviser, Agnew, Shaw, Coar and Hendry. Replace them with the man who threw the snow ball. He seems committed and looks like he works cheap.
2. Terminate the PR Firm. They cost a fortune, contribute nothing and their penchant for the owners turning up in a fleet of Rolls Royces like the Maharajas of Blackburn adds further to the overheads.
3. Ban the Venkys form visiting Ewood Park. Their expenses billed to the club are not merited when we only get 65 minutes out of them and not the full 90. In any event Vindaloo is so badly dressed that he gives the impression that the club is owned by gangsters.
4. Stop firing managers every couple of months. It is now apparent that the Venkys are so bad that it doesn't make any difference who the manager is. We have had our best periods by far since BFS left when we have been without a manager. Going back to the chap who threw the snowball, he seems to have a good eye for line and length so why not give him the job next time.
tombo1984
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3:09am Wed 23 Jan 13
Sell/release:
Paul Robinson - Kean has staked his claim and deserves it. Paul's wages mean he should move on
Nuno Henrique - If he's not good enough to make the bench he should go
Gaël Givet - Contract ends at end of the season and he'll be on decent wages. Time to replace. Davies?
David Dunn - On high wages and not fit enough or consistent enough. Time for him to retire and take up a full time coaching role
Mauro Formica - To inconsistent and would rather we had a British CAM in. Is a known fact that he wants to go home to Argentina.
Dickson Etuhu - Woeful CDM. Time to get rid of and replace.
Jordan Slew - The experiment failed. Time to move him on.
David Goodwillie - Can't score and to rash... Sell...
Amine Linganzi - Shouldn't still be at the club. Release.
Review Vukcevic:
Is likely on excessive wages. If he cannot play CAM sell him. He hasn't got the pace for the wing.
End Loan:
Grzegorz Sandomierski - Being beaten to the bench by Usai!
Loan Out:
Paulo Jorge
Edinho Júnior
Robbie Cotton
Hugo Fernández
Tim Payne
Kellen Daly
Jack O'Connell
All the above youngsters could do with 1st team football.
As for the players sold/released. My my estimation it would leave us needing to sign 6 players which is around the number Appleton is looking at.
We need a Full Back to replace Givet, Right Midfielder who can cross and has a little bit of pace, a Central Defensive Ball Winning/Passing Midfielder to replace Etuhu, a Utility Central Midfielder box to box, a central attacking midfielder to replace Formica/Dunn and complement Murphy and last but not least we need a optional goalscorer to replace Goodwillie.
I know we have Gomes and Leon Best. But Gomes injury record has been iffy and we cannot be sure Best won't relapse.
Colin Kazim Richards is a decent forward along with Rochina, but they are not prolific goalscorers.
That leaves us getting rid of 10-11 players which would relieve a huge pressure from the wagebill and bring in 6 with at least two of those coming in on loan.
Maybe even more going out on loan.
What do people think?
Roverthere
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3:53am Wed 23 Jan 13
Sherwoodforest wrote:Hopefully we can remove the deadwood before!
" I will reduce the wage bill "
Get ready for the summer sales !
cheatingdave says...
12:19pm Tue 22 Jan 13