New Hammers bid for Swede Olsson set to be turned down as Rovers eye Wiseman
8:01am Thursday 17th January 2013 in Sport
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
BARNSLEY defender Scott Wiseman has emerged on Blackburn Rovers’ radar as new boss Michael Appleton starts to plot the club’s route back into Championship play-off contention.
While West Ham United are understood to have now bid in the region of £4million for Martin Olsson – just 24 hours after manager Sam Allardyce said they were unlikely to raise their bid from an initial £2m.
But Rovers remain keen to hold on to the Swede and Appleton is also eager to add to his squad before the end of January.
Appleton was close to signing 27-year-old Wiseman when he was Blackpool boss earlier this month, with the Yorkshire outfit now braced for him to revive his interest in the versatile defender.
No official contact has yet been made as Rovers mull over other possible transfer business but the Tykes would be willing to let their former skipper leave for a fee in the region of £150,000.
A number of other potential targets are also understood to be being considered at Ewood Park, including West Brom centre back Craig Dawson.
Rovers are believed to be one of a host of Championship clubs tracking the England under 21 international with regards a possible loan move, although they may all have to wait until later in the window.
Leeds United and Bolton Wanderers are also understood to be tracking the 22-year-old.
The Ewood Park club had expressed an interest in former midfielder David Bentley before Appleton’s appointment, with the Spurs man believed to be interested in a return, but sources close to the player are unsure if any move will now materialise.
Rovers’ transfer business this window is likely to depend on potential January departures, with French defender Gael Givet still hopeful of an exit.
The loss of Givet would strengthen Appleton’s need for defensive reinforcements, with Dawson then becoming a more immediate target.
Barnsley’s Wiseman can play at either right back or centre back and was all set to move to Bloomfield Road at the start of the January transfer window, when Appleton was manager there.
Blackpool had a bid accepted but the move broke down due to personal terms, as Appleton grew increasingly frustrated at the lack of transfer activity at Rovers’ Lancashire rivals.
Wiseman would be keen on a move having fallen out of favour in recent weeks, including receiving heavy criticism from the Oakwell supporters.
Bristol City are also believed to be interested in him, while if Chelsea loanee Todd Kane continues to impress at Rovers, Appleton may opt to extend his spell at Ewood Park instead.
Meanwhile Rovers remain hopeful summer Leon Best will return to action next month, having missed the season so far after suffering a cruciate knee ligament injury.
Best moved to Ewood from Newcastle United for in the region of £3million but injured himself in a pre-season friendly against AEK Athens.
Comments(82)
Joey99
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8:14am Thu 17 Jan 13
LittleRonnieHildersley
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8:22am Thu 17 Jan 13
bburnrover
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8:30am Thu 17 Jan 13
Bentley would be an ideal signing as he could give the supply we badly require from the right hand side for Rhodes and Best when he returns.The young lad from Chelsea is full of running but he needs to learn when to pass the ball and isnt the answer to our defensive frailties.We require a good CB who can command the area and win those balls that Danns doesnt seem tall enough to reach.
lusorover
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8:38am Thu 17 Jan 13
Bazzer
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8:53am Thu 17 Jan 13
Is Eckersley playing?
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9:04am Thu 17 Jan 13
RoverTheHill
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9:06am Thu 17 Jan 13
bburnrover wrote:Erm Tottenham fans rank Bentley lower than crap.... so you logic isn't always right. Everton and Yakubu ring a bell? Just because a player is seen poorly by his clubs fans, an may play poorly in the clubs team doesn't make him a poor player.
The fans at Barnsley are giving this lad stick and in my opinion the fans are usually correct why would Appleton go for someone who isnt even up to the job at Barnsley?
Bentley would be an ideal signing as he could give the supply we badly require from the right hand side for Rhodes and Best when he returns.The young lad from Chelsea is full of running but he needs to learn when to pass the ball and isnt the answer to our defensive frailties.We require a good CB who can command the area and win those balls that Danns doesnt seem tall enough to reach.
You're only as good as the people around you.
LittleRonnieHildersley
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9:09am Thu 17 Jan 13
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:Would rather we spent millions on the likes if the Scottish Rooney and Scott Dann? Give the guy a chance - he knows this league and at least he seems to be identifying the positions that need strengthening rather than signing another Portuguese midfielder for the benefit of agents fees!
£150 grand, eh? Well, we're really moving into the big time now. And Andy says on t'other thread they are backing Mr. Appleton. Strewth!
lusorover
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9:11am Thu 17 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe
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9:25am Thu 17 Jan 13
Seriously though Wiseman is exactly the kind of grafter we need to get us outa here. He wasn't their captain for nothing and another leader on the pitch is exactly what we need. Not bothered if he's £1.50 so long as he does a job, unlike Etuhu who has been pants considering his athleticism, him and murphy have been passengers.
mark anthony
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9:26am Thu 17 Jan 13
Wez_SHEBBYOUT
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9:32am Thu 17 Jan 13
im pretty sure that he was raped for 90 minutes against wolves.....
GodOfNout
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9:34am Thu 17 Jan 13
Blackburn fans love horses
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9:40am Thu 17 Jan 13
Time for a protest.
roverinmanchstr
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9:42am Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
fanny_tickler.
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9:43am Thu 17 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe
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9:45am Thu 17 Jan 13
Blackburn fans love horses wrote:Hey up, Berger Kings up early this morning, is it time to collect your prescription from the methadone clinic or has sis booted you out early?
Blackburn fans criticising players before they've even signed - surely not.....
Time for a protest.
dangerous dave
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10:00am Thu 17 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:definately 1 ball loose - at £1.50 would do a good job selling the burgers on the Riverside thats if the idiots down at Ewood bother to open up the facilities on Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to agree with Bazzer about the lad from WBA, he would be a good signing and also if Appleton says he wants a wiseman on board then he must have spotted the obvious three stupid monkeys running the show already. Seriously though Wiseman is exactly the kind of grafter we need to get us outa here. He wasn't their captain for nothing and another leader on the pitch is exactly what we need. Not bothered if he's £1.50 so long as he does a job, unlike Etuhu who has been pants considering his athleticism, him and murphy have been passengers.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Blackburn fans love horses
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10:04am Thu 17 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Good morning to you Eight Balls. did you have a nice night at the shelter? Good to see that you have overcome your horrific facial disfigurement and plucked up the courage to attend Darwen's homeless Internet Cafe so that you can log onto here.
Blackburn fans love horses wrote:Hey up, Berger Kings up early this morning, is it time to collect your prescription from the methadone clinic or has sis booted you out early?
Blackburn fans criticising players before they've even signed - surely not.....
Time for a protest.
Well done you
jackmetickler
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10:08am Thu 17 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:aye but he has a point..
Blackburn fans love horses wrote: Blackburn fans criticising players before they've even signed - surely not..... Time for a protest.Hey up, Berger Kings up early this morning, is it time to collect your prescription from the methadone clinic or has sis booted you out early?
Cmon we have had some great players in the past who have signed for peanuts... at least give them a chance;
appleton knows he has to win over the fans and hit the ground running if he is not going to be slated...
so he is not going to bring in players he does not think will do a job for him.
My only worry is if the fiddlers behind the scenes have anthing to do with it .... then they will be useless.
leitchy
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10:08am Thu 17 Jan 13
Ambition.....NONE
All about the maths!! Once they have sold everything they can and got as much money as possible then they will sell....leaving the club with nothing.
dangerous dave
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10:11am Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover wrote:doubt you have any feelings and you obviously wouldnt recognise a brain cell if one smacked you in the face!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone else get the feeling that Dangerous (would be if he had a brain cell) Dave and Eckersley are Dingles on a mission of subversion on 'our' site?
The Lt's site not yours - its for everyone who so wishes to vent a view and putting the record straight - for small minded people like you I've been a Rovers fan all my life but choose to excercise my views on the way the club is being run as I like!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM!!!!!
dangerous dave
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10:12am Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover wrote:doubt you have any feelings and you obviously wouldnt recognise a brain cell if one smacked you in the face!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone else get the feeling that Dangerous (would be if he had a brain cell) Dave and Eckersley are Dingles on a mission of subversion on 'our' site?
The Lt's site not yours - its for everyone who so wishes to vent a view and putting the record straight - for small minded people like you I've been a Rovers fan all my life but choose to excercise my views on the way the club is being run as I like!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM!!!!!
forever blue and white
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10:18am Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover wrote:Its not just them two there are a few others without a brain. However, these two are the worst. 100% dingles! Watch out for the statements that " I have been going to the Rovers for 3,000 years but I am not going now because I have thrown my teddies out of the pram. I did go when we was in the old 3rd division when times were much better??????????????
Does anyone else get the feeling that Dangerous (would be if he had a brain cell) Dave and Eckersley are Dingles on a mission of subversion on 'our' site?
????????????????????
Harwoodstblue
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10:25am Thu 17 Jan 13
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
whappen
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10:46am Thu 17 Jan 13
mark anthony wrote:Pace?
bring in D. Bently iam sure he can cut it in this league with his pace he will rise above the oposite teams and give Rhodes and co the delivery they need its not rocket science
Dukes
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10:47am Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover
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10:49am Thu 17 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
Will P
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11:14am Thu 17 Jan 13
jackmetickler wrote:I'm 100% sure that these transfer targets, bar Bentley, are Appleton targets that he wanted at Blackpool but Oyston refused to put money in (like with Holloway).
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:aye but he has a point..
Blackburn fans love horses wrote: Blackburn fans criticising players before they've even signed - surely not..... Time for a protest.Hey up, Berger Kings up early this morning, is it time to collect your prescription from the methadone clinic or has sis booted you out early?
Cmon we have had some great players in the past who have signed for peanuts... at least give them a chance;
appleton knows he has to win over the fans and hit the ground running if he is not going to be slated...
so he is not going to bring in players he does not think will do a job for him.
My only worry is if the fiddlers behind the scenes have anthing to do with it .... then they will be useless.
With the players we're targeting, it's obvious what Appleton thinks of our back four and midfield.... not a lot...
kfc yummy
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11:17am Thu 17 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Do you have a life outside these pages.
I have to agree with Bazzer about the lad from WBA, he would be a good signing and also if Appleton says he wants a wiseman on board then he must have spotted the obvious three stupid monkeys running the show already.
Seriously though Wiseman is exactly the kind of grafter we need to get us outa here. He wasn't their captain for nothing and another leader on the pitch is exactly what we need. Not bothered if he's £1.50 so long as he does a job, unlike Etuhu who has been pants considering his athleticism, him and murphy have been passengers.
whittleblue
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11:18am Thu 17 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue
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11:27am Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover wrote:Oh you are so naive....... Venkys don't need a PR firm with "supporters " like you.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
Get real and open your eyes.
leitchy
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11:36am Thu 17 Jan 13
Championship players + Championship Manager = THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Nothing more or less its where we are staying !
blueblooded
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11:44am Thu 17 Jan 13
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:you really need to consider whether the blue and white shirt you wear is actually claret, the way you go on.
£150 grand, eh? Well, we're really moving into the big time now. And Andy says on t'other thread they are backing Mr. Appleton. Strewth!
blueblooded
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11:48am Thu 17 Jan 13
Will P wrote:he;s not wrong though is he?
jackmetickler wrote:I'm 100% sure that these transfer targets, bar Bentley, are Appleton targets that he wanted at Blackpool but Oyston refused to put money in (like with Holloway).
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:aye but he has a point..
Blackburn fans love horses wrote: Blackburn fans criticising players before they've even signed - surely not..... Time for a protest.Hey up, Berger Kings up early this morning, is it time to collect your prescription from the methadone clinic or has sis booted you out early?
Cmon we have had some great players in the past who have signed for peanuts... at least give them a chance;
appleton knows he has to win over the fans and hit the ground running if he is not going to be slated...
so he is not going to bring in players he does not think will do a job for him.
My only worry is if the fiddlers behind the scenes have anthing to do with it .... then they will be useless.
With the players we're targeting, it's obvious what Appleton thinks of our back four and midfield.... not a lot...
obviously doesnt subscribe to teh Keano "a player should be able to play in any position" notions.
RoverInRotterdam
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11:51am Thu 17 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue
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11:52am Thu 17 Jan 13
leitchy wrote:If by some miracle we did get promoted how long would we stay there with this squad. My guess we would do a re-run of the Dingle debacle.
How are we expected to be a premiership club once again, when we sell our best players and bring in championship players and championship managers????
Championship players + Championship Manager = THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Nothing more or less its where we are staying !
It would take at least 50 million to replace the squad that Venkys sold (just an estimate) to compete in the Prem.... Will Venkys fund that ?
8 Ball Deluxe
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11:56am Thu 17 Jan 13
forever blue and white wrote:Agreed, Dangerous Dave and the Doomongers appearing at a working mens club near you with their new single Shaggy Out
lusorover wrote:Its not just them two there are a few others without a brain. However, these two are the worst. 100% dingles! Watch out for the statements that " I have been going to the Rovers for 3,000 years but I am not going now because I have thrown my teddies out of the pram. I did go when we was in the old 3rd division when times were much better??????????????
Does anyone else get the feeling that Dangerous (would be if he had a brain cell) Dave and Eckersley are Dingles on a mission of subversion on 'our' site?
????????????????????
forever-a-blue-jean
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11:57am Thu 17 Jan 13
forever-a-blue-jean
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12:00pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Championship
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hahaha yes! he is my mates boyfriend (wiseman)....
he was dissing the owners and singh last time i saw him!! i wonder if he will move! i am going to chase him down.
Cant see it happening surely even Venky's wont sign a player who "disses" them to family and friends?
forever-a-blue-jean
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12:01pm Thu 17 Jan 13
forever-a-blue-jean wrote:The original post is a quote from Rovers official messageboard.
naterinno Championship Posts: 3,956 Joined: Jul 2007 hahaha yes! he is my mates boyfriend (wiseman).... he was dissing the owners and singh last time i saw him!! i wonder if he will move! i am going to chase him down. Cant see it happening surely even Venky's wont sign a player who "disses" them to family and friends?
Is Eckersley playing?
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12:02pm Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover wrote:Well, Isorover, I can remember the days of Bell, Campbell, Paterson,, (goalie), Kelly, Westcott,Suart, I could go on - does that sound like a Burnley fan? I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm entitled to my opinion of the Indians and I'll continue to express it until they go, I'm knocked off this site or I'm in my box. If you don't like what I have to say, skip over it,...simples!
Does anyone else get the feeling that Dangerous (would be if he had a brain cell) Dave and Eckersley are Dingles on a mission of subversion on 'our' site?
ClaretSince94
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12:09pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:First time I've ever commented on a Rovers article so don't just shoot me down as a typical "Dingle-on-a-windup" but...
lusorover wrote:Oh you are so naive....... Venkys don't need a PR firm with "supporters " like you.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
Get real and open your eyes.
That's true harwoodstblue, if Rovers had more supporters like lusorover then Venky's wouldn't need to hire a PR firm and could probably spend that money on players, unfortunately not many Rovers fans seem to have the realistic understanding of the running costs of a football club that lusorover is demonstrating.
Venky's are spending millions more on Rovers than any other club in the division is spending, losing about £2 million per month. If you say you've made a profit of £30 million on players sales (no idea of the actual figure) then at £2 million a month that's only going to last 15 months, just over a year - without spending any of it on transfer fees.
Having had years and years of supporting Rovers where finances weren't an issue has sheltered your fans from the reality. You used to laugh at Burnley and ask where all the money had gone but we actually are very aware of the reality of the situation with club finances at this level without rich backers. It's not just the headline figure of the transfer fee which is almost never all up front, it's wages, signing on fees, agents fees, loyalty bonuses. You've got ground maintenance, non-footballing staff, policing costs etc. It's not as simple as you think, not even close, something which lusorover has grasped and you haven't, if your fans don't get realistic then the negativity is going to drag your side down just as much as the Venky's have with their mismanagement (which, annoyingly from a Burnley fans perspective, they seem to be starting to turn a corner on) - and no one who has the money will have any interest in picking up the pieces if you drive them out.
goldenoldham
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12:17pm Thu 17 Jan 13
People seem to be moaning because were looking to sell Olsson for in the region of £4m and buying Wisemann for £150,000 as negative. If we were paying £4 for Wisemann would people still be moaning? The moaning seems to be about the amount that’s being spent, if Wisemann turns out to be a great signing for that price then this is amazingly fantastic business in anybody's eyes.
What is spent on a player doesn’t always mean how good they are just compare
Kalinic to Yakubu
juanbbien
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12:21pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Will P
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12:21pm Thu 17 Jan 13
blueblooded wrote:Thank god! At least Appleton's a man who knows what he wants. Blackpool frustrated him because he was basically told that he had to sell a couple of his key players, but get no funds to replace them, as well as getting into the play-offs.
Will P wrote:he;s not wrong though is he?
jackmetickler wrote:I'm 100% sure that these transfer targets, bar Bentley, are Appleton targets that he wanted at Blackpool but Oyston refused to put money in (like with Holloway).
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:aye but he has a point..
Blackburn fans love horses wrote: Blackburn fans criticising players before they've even signed - surely not..... Time for a protest.Hey up, Berger Kings up early this morning, is it time to collect your prescription from the methadone clinic or has sis booted you out early?
Cmon we have had some great players in the past who have signed for peanuts... at least give them a chance;
appleton knows he has to win over the fans and hit the ground running if he is not going to be slated...
so he is not going to bring in players he does not think will do a job for him.
My only worry is if the fiddlers behind the scenes have anthing to do with it .... then they will be useless.
With the players we're targeting, it's obvious what Appleton thinks of our back four and midfield.... not a lot...
obviously doesnt subscribe to teh Keano "a player should be able to play in any position" notions.
I just would like to see us attempt to sign a player who is going to really show we have ambition. Rochina is a playmaker, but we don't have a player who regularly gives Rhodes chances. Nunes did it for 1 game then got a hamstring problem.
At least an attempt is being made to rectify our defence. I do think Dann is improving though, he had a diabolic first season and a half however his displays recently have been dominant. I haven't seen Wiseman enough to pass comment.
Great news about the sponsor by the way!
J.C - Rishton
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12:25pm Thu 17 Jan 13
leitchy wrote:spot on - bad players make bad teams and good players make good teams.
How are we expected to be a premiership club once again, when we sell our best players and bring in championship players and championship managers????
Championship players + Championship Manager = THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Nothing more or less its where we are staying !
It is a very obvious truism but its amazing how many "happy clappers" like Roverspal and Lusorovers still don't understand it.
Harwoodstblue
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12:27pm Thu 17 Jan 13
ClaretSince94 wrote:Cast your mind back 2 years BV......Before Venkys.
Harwoodstblue wrote:First time I've ever commented on a Rovers article so don't just shoot me down as a typical "Dingle-on-a-windup" but...
lusorover wrote:Oh you are so naive....... Venkys don't need a PR firm with "supporters " like you.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
Get real and open your eyes.
That's true harwoodstblue, if Rovers had more supporters like lusorover then Venky's wouldn't need to hire a PR firm and could probably spend that money on players, unfortunately not many Rovers fans seem to have the realistic understanding of the running costs of a football club that lusorover is demonstrating.
Venky's are spending millions more on Rovers than any other club in the division is spending, losing about £2 million per month. If you say you've made a profit of £30 million on players sales (no idea of the actual figure) then at £2 million a month that's only going to last 15 months, just over a year - without spending any of it on transfer fees.
Having had years and years of supporting Rovers where finances weren't an issue has sheltered your fans from the reality. You used to laugh at Burnley and ask where all the money had gone but we actually are very aware of the reality of the situation with club finances at this level without rich backers. It's not just the headline figure of the transfer fee which is almost never all up front, it's wages, signing on fees, agents fees, loyalty bonuses. You've got ground maintenance, non-footballing staff, policing costs etc. It's not as simple as you think, not even close, something which lusorover has grasped and you haven't, if your fans don't get realistic then the negativity is going to drag your side down just as much as the Venky's have with their mismanagement (which, annoyingly from a Burnley fans perspective, they seem to be starting to turn a corner on) - and no one who has the money will have any interest in picking up the pieces if you drive them out.
No such problems....Yes, we had some debt like every other club, but it was well managed, probably losing £2 million per YEAR, not £2 million per month, and self inflicted.
bburnrover
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12:27pm Thu 17 Jan 13
The fact is I can remember back 50 years and still cannot recall anyone except maybe a centre half that did well in Germany but he wasn't getting too much stick when he was here.
I still think the clubs fans are the best barometer on how good the player is.Frank Lampard for example will obviously be a good signing for the club he joins as the Chelsea fans are aware he puts in a full shift.
bburnrover
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12:30pm Thu 17 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton
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12:32pm Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover wrote:LusoRover for once you are right - any money made from player transfers will have to be put towards our huge losses (approx £2m per month).
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
However, if you are stating this today, how come you (and others on here) sometimes post that Venkys are putting £2m cash per month into the club to prop it up.
If you really believed that (and there is NO evidance to suggest they are) then any profits from player sales would be exactly be that as we would be running at neither a profit or a loss.
I can't beieve Paul Agnew gets £100,000s of pounds per year and the club pays you sod all - you are far better at club/Venky propaganda than he is.
Still, its nice to see you posting something thats correct for once rather than something you dreamed up on planet "Luny-Kean" where you seem to spend most of your life.
J.C - Rishton
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12:38pm Thu 17 Jan 13
bburnrover wrote:Patrick Anderson - he went onto captain Barcelona - you can't get much higher in club football than that yet he was VERY ordinary when he played for us.
Well I would like to know which players that have left Ewood and gone on to star for their new teams after being lamblasted by our fans for being rubbish.
The fact is I can remember back 50 years and still cannot recall anyone except maybe a centre half that did well in Germany but he wasn't getting too much stick when he was here.
I still think the clubs fans are the best barometer on how good the player is.Frank Lampard for example will obviously be a good signing for the club he joins as the Chelsea fans are aware he puts in a full shift.
fanny_tickler.
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12:45pm Thu 17 Jan 13
goldenoldham wrote:Maybe he's just priced at £150,000 because he's shoite.
The Wisemann deal was the start of the end for Appleton at Blackpool, Oysten wouldn’t pay the fee or wages that Barnsley and the player wanted. So its pretty obvious that Appleton has seen something in this player he likes and wants in his team.
People seem to be moaning because were looking to sell Olsson for in the region of £4m and buying Wisemann for £150,000 as negative. If we were paying £4 for Wisemann would people still be moaning? The moaning seems to be about the amount that’s being spent, if Wisemann turns out to be a great signing for that price then this is amazingly fantastic business in anybody's eyes.
What is spent on a player doesn’t always mean how good they are just compare
Kalinic to Yakubu
ClaretSince94
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12:49pm Thu 17 Jan 13
You can't criticise the losses the club are making and demand that they invest any and all transfer profit back into the player budget, they've got to balance the books somehow - if they don't then you'll be in an even bigger mess - if they were to walk out now who would take their place that could sustain your wage budget? Anyone who came in would oversee an even larger turnover of playing staff as they tried to balance the books. You might not like Venkys but at least they seem happy to underwrite your massive losses to try and get you back into the Premiership, it could be much worse.
surreyrover
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12:55pm Thu 17 Jan 13
lusorover wrote:Not a voice of reason surely. Look at Venkys Group profits of around £10 million last year and £13 million the year before - yes it's all available via the internet, have a look - and you might grasp that they don't have millions to give away.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
8 Ball Deluxe
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12:56pm Thu 17 Jan 13
ClaretSince94 wrote:Whats happening, you can't have a dingle talking sense on here. Unfortunately you have failed to understand that the lynch mob don't listen. They haven't listened since they took up with athe heavy metal sniffing welders.. It all started innocent like in order to get Kean out, but now they've bogged themselves up and want Venky's out as well. They think if they keep saying Venkys out, they will give them the club for nothing but a welding stick. The question is simple, who would you rather run your football club, a successful family with a worldwide business, or a welder from Darwen? Its okay saying but Jack Walker was a local lad, yes he was and he was willing to back the club with millions. The welder from Darwen has collected about 100,000 from donations and thinks he can run the club on it. Maybe they will get there wish but with that kind of financial backing we'd have to exist in the unibond league.
Harwoodstblue wrote:First time I've ever commented on a Rovers article so don't just shoot me down as a typical "Dingle-on-a-windup" but...
lusorover wrote:Oh you are so naive....... Venkys don't need a PR firm with "supporters " like you.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
Get real and open your eyes.
That's true harwoodstblue, if Rovers had more supporters like lusorover then Venky's wouldn't need to hire a PR firm and could probably spend that money on players, unfortunately not many Rovers fans seem to have the realistic understanding of the running costs of a football club that lusorover is demonstrating.
Venky's are spending millions more on Rovers than any other club in the division is spending, losing about £2 million per month. If you say you've made a profit of £30 million on players sales (no idea of the actual figure) then at £2 million a month that's only going to last 15 months, just over a year - without spending any of it on transfer fees.
Having had years and years of supporting Rovers where finances weren't an issue has sheltered your fans from the reality. You used to laugh at Burnley and ask where all the money had gone but we actually are very aware of the reality of the situation with club finances at this level without rich backers. It's not just the headline figure of the transfer fee which is almost never all up front, it's wages, signing on fees, agents fees, loyalty bonuses. You've got ground maintenance, non-footballing staff, policing costs etc. It's not as simple as you think, not even close, something which lusorover has grasped and you haven't, if your fans don't get realistic then the negativity is going to drag your side down just as much as the Venky's have with their mismanagement (which, annoyingly from a Burnley fans perspective, they seem to be starting to turn a corner on) - and no one who has the money will have any interest in picking up the pieces if you drive them out.
LittleRonnieHildersley
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1:03pm Thu 17 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:Yep, just like Southampton, reading, Swansea because they spent loads in the championship to get promoted!
leitchy wrote:spot on - bad players make bad teams and good players make good teams.
How are we expected to be a premiership club once again, when we sell our best players and bring in championship players and championship managers????
Championship players + Championship Manager = THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Nothing more or less its where we are staying !
It is a very obvious truism but its amazing how many "happy clappers" like Roverspal and Lusorovers still don't understand it.
What make me laugh are those that moan about venkys spending too much on wages etc and then moan when we look at inexpensive players.
We're passing judgement here on speculation and we're not giving the manager a chance - he has a much better idea of players in this league than berg or kean.
Doesn't matter you say though there are plenty on these pages that do nothing but moan!
Is Eckersley playing?
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1:09pm Thu 17 Jan 13
ClaretSince94 wrote:You make a number of sensible, well reasoned points, Claret. However, under the old regime, i.e. John Williams, he spoke to the fans and told it like it was. Fans trusted him and believed him. It was pellucidly clear that Rovers were punching above their weight and gravity would eventually win The Indians have decided to go a different way, as their money entitles them to do, so be it. I believe the club is on the fast route to bankruptcy. With Williams et al still there we could have expected to be a solid Championship side, which is probably our rightful place. I believe, however, that some fans still hold unrealistic expectations of the clubs potential. They are entitled to their view..
2 years ago you were in the Premiership, punching above your weight and whinging that your board wasn't spending enough money and that the football was boring. You wanted new investment, you got it, it didn't work out, that's the risk you take. You would have sold Samba and Jones whether you were owned by the Walkers Trust or Venky's, the same running costs would be involved and you wouldn't have been able to spend anywhere near what you made on transfers either way. You were on a slow decline then, there is no way a club of Rovers' size can stay in the Premiership without major financial backing, especially if you charge as little as your club does for tickets. Venky's hastened it with their lack of football nous but it was very likely to happen in a few years anyway, they are now propping up the club with a combination of their own money and that made from player sales.
You can't criticise the losses the club are making and demand that they invest any and all transfer profit back into the player budget, they've got to balance the books somehow - if they don't then you'll be in an even bigger mess - if they were to walk out now who would take their place that could sustain your wage budget? Anyone who came in would oversee an even larger turnover of playing staff as they tried to balance the books. You might not like Venkys but at least they seem happy to underwrite your massive losses to try and get you back into the Premiership, it could be much worse.
Harwoodstblue
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1:14pm Thu 17 Jan 13
ClaretSince94 wrote:What a load of bull........We've been paying the bills and running costs that EVERY club has for 138 years. We know what it takes to run a club without being told by a Burnley fan. We were well run until 2 years ago and holding our own in the Prem, making small losses each year,
2 years ago you were in the Premiership, punching above your weight and whinging that your board wasn't spending enough money and that the football was boring. You wanted new investment, you got it, it didn't work out, that's the risk you take. You would have sold Samba and Jones whether you were owned by the Walkers Trust or Venky's, the same running costs would be involved and you wouldn't have been able to spend anywhere near what you made on transfers either way. You were on a slow decline then, there is no way a club of Rovers' size can stay in the Premiership without major financial backing, especially if you charge as little as your club does for tickets. Venky's hastened it with their lack of football nous but it was very likely to happen in a few years anyway, they are now propping up the club with a combination of their own money and that made from player sales.
You can't criticise the losses the club are making and demand that they invest any and all transfer profit back into the player budget, they've got to balance the books somehow - if they don't then you'll be in an even bigger mess - if they were to walk out now who would take their place that could sustain your wage budget? Anyone who came in would oversee an even larger turnover of playing staff as they tried to balance the books. You might not like Venkys but at least they seem happy to underwrite your massive losses to try and get you back into the Premiership, it could be much worse.
The problems started when Venkys rode into town and if it wasn't for their incompetence we would still be there, no problem.
"You say that they are now propping up the club. " Are they ? There's no evidence of that and even if they were, it's down to their own incompetence that they have to do so.
hasslem hasslem
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1:19pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Wealdstone Utd to Prem winner in less than a season
Harwoodstblue
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1:32pm Thu 17 Jan 13
surreyrover wrote:OK if you say so Shebby.
lusorover wrote:Not a voice of reason surely. Look at Venkys Group profits of around £10 million last year and £13 million the year before - yes it's all available via the internet, have a look - and you might grasp that they don't have millions to give away.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
benal13
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1:39pm Thu 17 Jan 13
madrover
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1:43pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Will P wrote:well done someone with something sensible to say . I think Jay Tabb would do a good job for us and wouldn't cost the world . Wiseman is an old fashioned defender who knows when to launch into row z if necessary. If Olsson stays then we should get a left back so we can push him further up the pitch were he is most effective
blueblooded wrote:Thank god! At least Appleton's a man who knows what he wants. Blackpool frustrated him because he was basically told that he had to sell a couple of his key players, but get no funds to replace them, as well as getting into the play-offs.
Will P wrote:he;s not wrong though is he?
jackmetickler wrote:I'm 100% sure that these transfer targets, bar Bentley, are Appleton targets that he wanted at Blackpool but Oyston refused to put money in (like with Holloway).
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:aye but he has a point..
Blackburn fans love horses wrote: Blackburn fans criticising players before they've even signed - surely not..... Time for a protest.Hey up, Berger Kings up early this morning, is it time to collect your prescription from the methadone clinic or has sis booted you out early?
Cmon we have had some great players in the past who have signed for peanuts... at least give them a chance;
appleton knows he has to win over the fans and hit the ground running if he is not going to be slated...
so he is not going to bring in players he does not think will do a job for him.
My only worry is if the fiddlers behind the scenes have anthing to do with it .... then they will be useless.
With the players we're targeting, it's obvious what Appleton thinks of our back four and midfield.... not a lot...
obviously doesnt subscribe to teh Keano "a player should be able to play in any position" notions.
I just would like to see us attempt to sign a player who is going to really show we have ambition. Rochina is a playmaker, but we don't have a player who regularly gives Rhodes chances. Nunes did it for 1 game then got a hamstring problem.
At least an attempt is being made to rectify our defence. I do think Dann is improving though, he had a diabolic first season and a half however his displays recently have been dominant. I haven't seen Wiseman enough to pass comment.
Great news about the sponsor by the way!
8 Ball Deluxe
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1:59pm Thu 17 Jan 13
kfc yummy wrote:Yep and its a very interesting one too.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Do you have a life outside these pages.
I have to agree with Bazzer about the lad from WBA, he would be a good signing and also if Appleton says he wants a wiseman on board then he must have spotted the obvious three stupid monkeys running the show already.
Seriously though Wiseman is exactly the kind of grafter we need to get us outa here. He wasn't their captain for nothing and another leader on the pitch is exactly what we need. Not bothered if he's £1.50 so long as he does a job, unlike Etuhu who has been pants considering his athleticism, him and murphy have been passengers.
blueblooded
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2:01pm Thu 17 Jan 13
ClaretSince94 wrote:Much respect to you ClaretSince94.
2 years ago you were in the Premiership, punching above your weight and whinging that your board wasn't spending enough money and that the football was boring. You wanted new investment, you got it, it didn't work out, that's the risk you take. You would have sold Samba and Jones whether you were owned by the Walkers Trust or Venky's, the same running costs would be involved and you wouldn't have been able to spend anywhere near what you made on transfers either way. You were on a slow decline then, there is no way a club of Rovers' size can stay in the Premiership without major financial backing, especially if you charge as little as your club does for tickets. Venky's hastened it with their lack of football nous but it was very likely to happen in a few years anyway, they are now propping up the club with a combination of their own money and that made from player sales.
You can't criticise the losses the club are making and demand that they invest any and all transfer profit back into the player budget, they've got to balance the books somehow - if they don't then you'll be in an even bigger mess - if they were to walk out now who would take their place that could sustain your wage budget? Anyone who came in would oversee an even larger turnover of playing staff as they tried to balance the books. You might not like Venkys but at least they seem happy to underwrite your massive losses to try and get you back into the Premiership, it could be much worse.
A lot of sense in your post that should resonate with thosw who don't see every glass as half empty and can see the dangers ahead if Venky's give up on us at this juncture.
Will P
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2:13pm Thu 17 Jan 13
madrover wrote:Good suggestion, he's up for sale, has a good cross on him and more importantly has been promoted before. I personally am a fan of Adomah at Bristol City, apparently he's around the £1m mark at the moment. That price doesn't make it seem like an ambitious move, but it's known throughout that he is a quality player who really should be plying his trade in the Premier League. Swansea want him though.
Will P wrote:well done someone with something sensible to say . I think Jay Tabb would do a good job for us and wouldn't cost the world . Wiseman is an old fashioned defender who knows when to launch into row z if necessary. If Olsson stays then we should get a left back so we can push him further up the pitch were he is most effective
blueblooded wrote:Thank god! At least Appleton's a man who knows what he wants. Blackpool frustrated him because he was basically told that he had to sell a couple of his key players, but get no funds to replace them, as well as getting into the play-offs.
Will P wrote:he;s not wrong though is he?
jackmetickler wrote:I'm 100% sure that these transfer targets, bar Bentley, are Appleton targets that he wanted at Blackpool but Oyston refused to put money in (like with Holloway).
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:aye but he has a point..
Blackburn fans love horses wrote: Blackburn fans criticising players before they've even signed - surely not..... Time for a protest.Hey up, Berger Kings up early this morning, is it time to collect your prescription from the methadone clinic or has sis booted you out early?
Cmon we have had some great players in the past who have signed for peanuts... at least give them a chance;
appleton knows he has to win over the fans and hit the ground running if he is not going to be slated...
so he is not going to bring in players he does not think will do a job for him.
My only worry is if the fiddlers behind the scenes have anthing to do with it .... then they will be useless.
With the players we're targeting, it's obvious what Appleton thinks of our back four and midfield.... not a lot...
obviously doesnt subscribe to teh Keano "a player should be able to play in any position" notions.
I just would like to see us attempt to sign a player who is going to really show we have ambition. Rochina is a playmaker, but we don't have a player who regularly gives Rhodes chances. Nunes did it for 1 game then got a hamstring problem.
At least an attempt is being made to rectify our defence. I do think Dann is improving though, he had a diabolic first season and a half however his displays recently have been dominant. I haven't seen Wiseman enough to pass comment.
Great news about the sponsor by the way!
Appleton, from looking at his targets, likes grafters so maybe Etuhu will be kicked into shape, become the player he should of been when we signed him? If he does, it'll be like a new signing. I just really hope we move forward this time, the turn of the year has been great so far, finger crossed.
juanbbien
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2:18pm Thu 17 Jan 13
bburnrover wrote:I thought it was Brentford we got him from another waste of money
Revision John O'Mara got stick and scored a lot of goals for Swindon but was still a technically inept player but could head.
fanny_tickler.
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2:18pm Thu 17 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:I kinda doubt that.
kfc yummy wrote:Yep and its a very interesting one too.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Do you have a life outside these pages.
I have to agree with Bazzer about the lad from WBA, he would be a good signing and also if Appleton says he wants a wiseman on board then he must have spotted the obvious three stupid monkeys running the show already.
Seriously though Wiseman is exactly the kind of grafter we need to get us outa here. He wasn't their captain for nothing and another leader on the pitch is exactly what we need. Not bothered if he's £1.50 so long as he does a job, unlike Etuhu who has been pants considering his athleticism, him and murphy have been passengers.
Pooloflife
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2:19pm Thu 17 Jan 13
blueblooded
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2:36pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:Right there is the problem with the naysayers at the moment. You can't see past "until Venky's arrived.."
ClaretSince94 wrote:What a load of bull........We've been paying the bills and running costs that EVERY club has for 138 years. We know what it takes to run a club without being told by a Burnley fan. We were well run until 2 years ago and holding our own in the Prem, making small losses each year,
2 years ago you were in the Premiership, punching above your weight and whinging that your board wasn't spending enough money and that the football was boring. You wanted new investment, you got it, it didn't work out, that's the risk you take. You would have sold Samba and Jones whether you were owned by the Walkers Trust or Venky's, the same running costs would be involved and you wouldn't have been able to spend anywhere near what you made on transfers either way. You were on a slow decline then, there is no way a club of Rovers' size can stay in the Premiership without major financial backing, especially if you charge as little as your club does for tickets. Venky's hastened it with their lack of football nous but it was very likely to happen in a few years anyway, they are now propping up the club with a combination of their own money and that made from player sales.
You can't criticise the losses the club are making and demand that they invest any and all transfer profit back into the player budget, they've got to balance the books somehow - if they don't then you'll be in an even bigger mess - if they were to walk out now who would take their place that could sustain your wage budget? Anyone who came in would oversee an even larger turnover of playing staff as they tried to balance the books. You might not like Venkys but at least they seem happy to underwrite your massive losses to try and get you back into the Premiership, it could be much worse.
The problems started when Venkys rode into town and if it wasn't for their incompetence we would still be there, no problem.
"You say that they are now propping up the club. " Are they ? There's no evidence of that and even if they were, it's down to their own incompetence that they have to do so.
No-one anywhere (well, apart from Modan and a Roverspal and they're just plain wierd) are claimin that what Venkys have done since they arrived is commendable. We all know what happened, theres no need to keep rehashing history, what is important now is what are they going to do to rectify it.
We either try to get out of the mess we're in by attending and showing support to the team or we can sit at home spitting out our dummies that we don't want to keep lining Venky's pockets or turn up only to boo and protest and risk further decline.
No doubt those same people will sleep easy knowing they can keep blaming Venky's if it happens, but it won't change the outcome.
Venky's have brought us here, it is for them to get us out of it. But we need to get behind the team and do our bit too. Sitting there stewing about the past two years certainly isnt going to get us promoted anytime soon - Neither is turning up on Saturday to give Desai a piece of your mind, it might make you feel better, it certainly wont do anything else more other than perhaps ensure its another long time before they attend a match again.
Rishtonian
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3:13pm Thu 17 Jan 13
greenscreener
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4:26pm Thu 17 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:Players that have been rubbish at Blackburn but gone on to success with other clubs ?
bburnrover wrote:Patrick Anderson - he went onto captain Barcelona - you can't get much higher in club football than that yet he was VERY ordinary when he played for us.
Well I would like to know which players that have left Ewood and gone on to star for their new teams after being lamblasted by our fans for being rubbish.
The fact is I can remember back 50 years and still cannot recall anyone except maybe a centre half that did well in Germany but he wasn't getting too much stick when he was here.
I still think the clubs fans are the best barometer on how good the player is.Frank Lampard for example will obviously be a good signing for the club he joins as the Chelsea fans are aware he puts in a full shift.
Barry Ferguson, £6m+ waste of a shirt for Rovers, sold him back to Rangers, for about £4m less, and they made him their captain.
Kevin Davies, £7m of completely without any redeeming features at Ewood, living legend at the Reebok.
Not sure what this proves but it answers the question.
8 Ball Deluxe
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4:29pm Thu 17 Jan 13
fanny_tickler. wrote:Okay then shall we play * what have you done today children"?
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:I kinda doubt that.
kfc yummy wrote:Yep and its a very interesting one too.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Do you have a life outside these pages.
I have to agree with Bazzer about the lad from WBA, he would be a good signing and also if Appleton says he wants a wiseman on board then he must have spotted the obvious three stupid monkeys running the show already.
Seriously though Wiseman is exactly the kind of grafter we need to get us outa here. He wasn't their captain for nothing and another leader on the pitch is exactly what we need. Not bothered if he's £1.50 so long as he does a job, unlike Etuhu who has been pants considering his athleticism, him and murphy have been passengers.
You go first and your mate KFC and then I'll tell you what I've done today between posting on here.
bluefadingfast
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4:36pm Thu 17 Jan 13
goldenoldham wrote:Correctly put, does anyone one remember a young non-league player named Ian Wright? Can see it now "he only cost 30 bob, must be rubbish" -- I don't think!
The Wisemann deal was the start of the end for Appleton at Blackpool, Oysten wouldn’t pay the fee or wages that Barnsley and the player wanted. So its pretty obvious that Appleton has seen something in this player he likes and wants in his team.
People seem to be moaning because were looking to sell Olsson for in the region of £4m and buying Wisemann for £150,000 as negative. If we were paying £4 for Wisemann would people still be moaning? The moaning seems to be about the amount that’s being spent, if Wisemann turns out to be a great signing for that price then this is amazingly fantastic business in anybody's eyes.
What is spent on a player doesn’t always mean how good they are just compare
Kalinic to Yakubu
greenscreener
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4:59pm Thu 17 Jan 13
surreyrover wrote:The prefix 'Luso' means Portuguese, (look it up if you don't believe me).
lusorover wrote:Not a voice of reason surely. Look at Venkys Group profits of around £10 million last year and £13 million the year before - yes it's all available via the internet, have a look - and you might grasp that they don't have millions to give away.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Pocketed the profits? Don't make me laugh.
roverinmanchstr wrote:" They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones "
lusorover wrote:Chris Samba was an established Premiership player who was watched by several of the top six teams..How can you compare??? Your totally silly comment seems to support the Venky Regime at this club.... They are going to sell Players and bring in poorer ones>>>Get Real and Wake Up
I imagine that Wiseman is getting stick because he has made it clear he wants a move. Just like Chris Samba. Didn't make him a bad player.
Agreed roverinmanchester...
....Just like they have always done, AND pocketed the profit.
Why is it that some " supporters " if that is what lusorover is, can be so blind and have the memory of a goldfish ?
If there is a profit on player sales it has to be used to pay the bills.
Get real!
When our friend lusorover talks about paying Rovers bills, what do you think he means ?
How about bringing more of his chums from the Algarve and paying them silly money to sit on their ar5es at Brockhall.
Captain Dreckley
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6:27pm Thu 17 Jan 13
blackburnsoutherner
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6:42pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Strogbow
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9:14pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Joey99 wrote:Did'nt we pick Samba up from Herth Berlins reserve team for £400,000 and i cant remember other clubs queing up for him then.
"business but the Tykes would be willing to let their former skipper leave for a fee in the region of £150,000" Well what a bag of ****. Says it all the Bristol City have been linked with the player as well
If we do sign or loan players lets give them a chance before we slate them.
Just sayin!
kfc yummy
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9:40pm Thu 17 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Got better things to do.
fanny_tickler. wrote:Okay then shall we play * what have you done today children"?
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:I kinda doubt that.
kfc yummy wrote:Yep and its a very interesting one too.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Do you have a life outside these pages.
I have to agree with Bazzer about the lad from WBA, he would be a good signing and also if Appleton says he wants a wiseman on board then he must have spotted the obvious three stupid monkeys running the show already.
Seriously though Wiseman is exactly the kind of grafter we need to get us outa here. He wasn't their captain for nothing and another leader on the pitch is exactly what we need. Not bothered if he's £1.50 so long as he does a job, unlike Etuhu who has been pants considering his athleticism, him and murphy have been passengers.
You go first and your mate KFC and then I'll tell you what I've done today between posting on here.
noddy57
says...
10:40pm Thu 17 Jan 13
fanny_tickler.
says...
9:15am Fri 18 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:You posted on here in between prolonged bouts of intense masturbation while watching Wade Elliot's play-off final goal on repeat.
fanny_tickler. wrote:Okay then shall we play * what have you done today children"?
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:I kinda doubt that.
kfc yummy wrote:Yep and its a very interesting one too.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Do you have a life outside these pages.
I have to agree with Bazzer about the lad from WBA, he would be a good signing and also if Appleton says he wants a wiseman on board then he must have spotted the obvious three stupid monkeys running the show already.
Seriously though Wiseman is exactly the kind of grafter we need to get us outa here. He wasn't their captain for nothing and another leader on the pitch is exactly what we need. Not bothered if he's £1.50 so long as he does a job, unlike Etuhu who has been pants considering his athleticism, him and murphy have been passengers.
You go first and your mate KFC and then I'll tell you what I've done today between posting on here.
Just like you do every day.
Now go and wash your sticky hands.
kazluvsrovers says...
8:13am Thu 17 Jan 13
four million for Olsson, keeping players on loan will probably be the more
realistic option for Venkys.