Blackburn Rovers Action Group threatens to step up campaign (From This Is Lancashire)

French Rover wrote:
Sell to whom? It took the Walkers Trust almost three years to sell the club and they employed such illustrious companies as the Rothschild's to help them in their search for buyers. And look what happened then - we got the Venky's!

BRAG need to be realistic about what they or any other group can actually achieve. Almost zero.

BRSIT may actually be the way forward - but that could take years and even then it could only happen with the Venky's willing cooperation.

Get a grip BRAG - you are becoming part of the problem now instead of the solution..

NickH1982 wrote:

French Rover wrote: Sell to whom? It took the Walkers Trust almost three years to sell the club and they employed such illustrious companies as the Rothschild's to help them in their search for buyers. And look what happened then - we got the Venky's! BRAG need to be realistic about what they or any other group can actually achieve. Almost zero. BRSIT may actually be the way forward - but that could take years and even then it could only happen with the Venky's willing cooperation. Get a grip BRAG - you are becoming part of the problem now instead of the solution..

I agree on this. we couldnt sustain the club if it came into the supporters hands.

Fyrover wrote:
Who do they want???????

BeardwoodB wrote:
BRAG eat out of Shebbys hands.
Enough said.
It's become a little hobby for some Rovers fans.

andybb2 wrote:

Fyrover wrote:
Who do they want???????

anyone but the venkys or brsit wouldnt be a good choice

Roverholic wrote:

NickH1982 wrote:

French Rover wrote: Sell to whom? It took the Walkers Trust almost three years to sell the club and they employed such illustrious companies as the Rothschild's to help them in their search for buyers. And look what happened then - we got the Venky's! BRAG need to be realistic about what they or any other group can actually achieve. Almost zero. BRSIT may actually be the way forward - but that could take years and even then it could only happen with the Venky's willing cooperation. Get a grip BRAG - you are becoming part of the problem now instead of the solution..

I agree on this. we couldnt sustain the club if it came into the supporters hands.

You are right, we couldn't sustain the club, we would have to make massive cuts everywhere and would be relegated even lower. BUT the club would be ours again, the honest family club we've all nearly forgotton about we've been through so much

rover'n'out wrote:
Fed up and not going back till this mess is sorted out.

20,000 supporters put £1,000 into the pot gives you £20 million.
Each supporter gets an equal share
Buy for £10 mil gives you £10 mil in the pot for running costs.
I'm sure you would get some local sponsors to put more into the coffers.
Appoint an experienced ceo.
Bring the kids through and build up.
Look at Swansea- nearly out of business 8 years ago.

rover'n'out wrote:
Fed up and not going back till this mess is sorted out. 20,000 supporters put £1,000 into the pot gives you £20 million. Each supporter gets an equal share Buy for £10 mil gives you £10 mil in the pot for running costs. I'm sure you would get some local sponsors to put more into the coffers. Appoint an experienced ceo. Bring the kids through and build up. Look at Swansea- nearly out of business 8 years ago.

rover'n'out wrote:
Fed up and not going back till this mess is sorted out.

20,000 supporters put £1,000 into the pot gives you £20 million.
Each supporter gets an equal share
Buy for £10 mil gives you £10 mil in the pot for running costs.
I'm sure you would get some local sponsors to put more into the coffers.
Appoint an experienced ceo.
Bring the kids through and build up.
Look at Swansea- nearly out of business 8 years ago.

rover'n'out wrote:
Fed up and not going back till this mess is sorted out.

20,000 supporters put £1,000 into the pot gives you £20 million.
Each supporter gets an equal share
Buy for £10 mil gives you £10 mil in the pot for running costs.
I'm sure you would get some local sponsors to put more into the coffers.
Appoint an experienced ceo.
Bring the kids through and build up.
Look at Swansea- nearly out of business 8 years ago.

PJA79 wrote:
I don't understand this statement at all. There is no magic formula for appointing a manager - calling for 'experience' is all well and good but experience of what? Managers who have taken sides out of the Championship are few and far between. Those that would join this regieme are even fewer I would imagine! Even then what works at one club wont necessarily work at another!

What these supporters groups should be calling for is unity at the top - having the press used by both sides to try and get what they want is nothing short of embarrassing.

We might be stuck being run by a set of snakes but it'd be good if they could at least all slither in the same direction!

UpTheFootballLeagueW
eGo wrote:
Beginning to take the p*ss now. They call for the owners to be strong... and then try to bully the same people into making a decision that "supporters" want.

"Bring Hughes Back!" is what they probably wanna say! Living off past glories! Hughes would have just the same risk as Appleton. Hughes hasnt done much since leaving us and usually requires a big pot for transfers which looking at City and QPR... he doesnt have a great eye for talent (Santa Cruz, Kolo Toure, Adebayor were all absolute rip-offs!)

Personally, i would like to give Bowyer a few more games to see what happens, but if they bring someone else in, i'll get behind him! The club is bigger than any 1 individual! and when u look to the more successful managers (Hughes/Allardyce/So

uness) i dont think they were everyones first choice at the time and they turned out alright!

Let the new guy, whoever it is, come in and give it a shot! Otherwise, we're gonna have this happen over and over again! I dont think 10,000 tickets every home game at 10-15£ a pop even covers 4 of our top players' weekly wages... so Venkys are obviously out of pocket!

I dont even know why im positing on here, because ive got that feeling that too much damage has been done in the eyes of some fans and they wont be happy even if Mourinho came here!

If Ewood stays so volatile, then we can kiss promotion goodbye and most of our players at the end of the year too! Rhodes included! I wouldnt wanna be playing in an empty stadium knowing if i fluff a shot the few thousand there might boo me!

andybb2 wrote:

BeardwoodB wrote:
BRAG eat out of Shebbys hands.
Enough said.
It's become a little hobby for some Rovers fans.

i am a member of brag and i dont eat out of shebby hand poeple like you give spporters groups a bad name i hate venkys and shebby and would neve support them

French Rover wrote:
Sell to whom? It took the Walkers Trust almost three years to sell the club and they employed such illustrious companies as the Rothschild's to help them in their search for buyers. And look what happened then - we got the Venky's!

BRAG need to be realistic about what they or any other group can actually achieve. Almost zero.

BRSIT may actually be the way forward - but that could take years and even then it could only happen with the Venky's willing cooperation.

Get a grip BRAG - you are becoming part of the problem now instead of the solution..

French Rover wrote:
Sell to whom? It took the Walkers Trust almost three years to sell the club and they employed such illustrious companies as the Rothschild's to help them in their search for buyers. And look what happened then - we got the Venky's!

BRAG need to be realistic about what they or any other group can actually achieve. Almost zero.

BRSIT may actually be the way forward - but that could take years and even then it could only happen with the Venky's willing cooperation.

Get a grip BRAG - you are becoming part of the problem now instead of the solution..

bypass06 wrote:

rover'n'out wrote:
Fed up and not going back till this mess is sorted out.

20,000 supporters put £1,000 into the pot gives you £20 million.
Each supporter gets an equal share
Buy for £10 mil gives you £10 mil in the pot for running costs.
I'm sure you would get some local sponsors to put more into the coffers.
Appoint an experienced ceo.
Bring the kids through and build up.
Look at Swansea- nearly out of business 8 years ago.

Why do people keep saying "Look at Swansea we could do that".
Get real, the only reason Swansea are where they are is.
1....Their owner bought the club for £1.
2.....The board agreed to give 20 % of shares.
3...All they had to do to get a share, was to buy a season ticket.

If you think that will ever happen here, Think again.

dg666 wrote:
And with all due respect who gave the action group the authority to tell the club who the manager should be? What the he'll do you know about Appleton and his abilities? Listen to the Blackpool players and what they are saying, they will be gutted to see him go. He is widely regarded as one of the best young managers around. In football some things are hushed up, Billy Davis for example would be a poor choice, but as I said things are hushed up!! As for pressurising Venky's to sell the club, who the hell to? Why would anybody buy a club that is loosing money hand over fist? Or are the Action group going to buy it with their £3m of pledges? That wouldn't keep the cub running for two months!! Get rid of Singh and let Derek Shaw run the club, a real football man with experience in the English game. Oh yeah and for god sake stop this constant negativity, it is driving me mad, get behind the players and you might actually help the cause!!

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
Whilst a lot of the content in your statement is true there will be no sense in creating protests about the new manager once he is installed that will look rediculous he will have to be given a chance first like we did with Henning. Also you will loose your comfy room that you have just been given at Ewood ( you fell for the oldest trick in the book with that one ) You were saying then that communications had improved, what's changed. You can forget buying the Club wth monopoly money.

intothevalley wrote:
What ever happened to the idea that was moated when the venkys took over of forming a new club in the town , starting in non league .owned by rovers supporters?

Robbie wrote:
so most fans say they are unhappy with the idea of appleton... BRAG come out and say "we as a group of fans are unhappy and will take action if he is appointed" and the fans turn on brag

idiots

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

andybb2 wrote:

BeardwoodB wrote:
BRAG eat out of Shebbys hands.
Enough said.
It's become a little hobby for some Rovers fans.

i am a member of brag and i dont eat out of shebby hand poeple like you give spporters groups a bad name i hate venkys and shebby and would neve support them

BRAG OFF THEN, go and brag down the pub instead

moh wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

andybb2 wrote:

BeardwoodB wrote:
BRAG eat out of Shebbys hands.
Enough said.
It's become a little hobby for some Rovers fans.

i am a member of brag and i dont eat out of shebby hand poeple like you give spporters groups a bad name i hate venkys and shebby and would neve support them

BRAG OFF THEN, go and brag down the pub instead

I am not a member of BRAG , however you need to give them credit for unifying fans against the club and Kean when we were plucked from premiership to championship and were in freefall.

mark007 wrote:
So is they any truth in BRAG being given an office by Venkys in the Darwen end stand?

mark007 wrote:
So is they any truth in BRAG being given an office by Venkys in the Darwen end stand?

lusorover wrote:
The statements and actions of so-called supporters' groups are only fanning the flames. To be talking of protests before the Club has even spoken to a potential manager is petulant and childish. Is someone has the 40 million it would need to buy the Club then they shut put up or shut up. In the meantime we are stuck with Venkys. Decent fans will give any new manager a chance. The motives of those who don't are very questionable.

rover'n'out wrote:
Fed up and not going back till this mess is sorted out.

20,000 supporters put £1,000 into the pot gives you £20 million.
Each supporter gets an equal share
Buy for £10 mil gives you £10 mil in the pot for running costs.
I'm sure you would get some local sponsors to put more into the coffers.
Appoint an experienced ceo.
Bring the kids through and build up.
Look at Swansea- nearly out of business 8 years ago.

Fan@clared wrote:

bypass06 wrote:

rover'n'out wrote: Fed up and not going back till this mess is sorted out. 20,000 supporters put £1,000 into the pot gives you £20 million. Each supporter gets an equal share Buy for £10 mil gives you £10 mil in the pot for running costs. I'm sure you would get some local sponsors to put more into the coffers. Appoint an experienced ceo. Bring the kids through and build up. Look at Swansea- nearly out of business 8 years ago.

Why do people keep saying "Look at Swansea we could do that". Get real, the only reason Swansea are where they are is. 1....Their owner bought the club for £1. 2.....The board agreed to give 20 % of shares. 3...All they had to do to get a share, was to buy a season ticket. If you think that will ever happen here, Think again.

I am impartial here but I have met many of these types over the years on the sub-continent and you are bang on with your assessment.

stick to football wrote:
Obviously talking to Shebby - has influenced how important BRAG think they are.

On what basis do they think they have the right to decide who is Manager - have they run a football club before?

They need to get real - yes it would be great if Venkys sold up but they are not going to incur a significant loss just because BRAG says so.

Furthermore - most football people wont touch Rovers so why do they expect no doubt an experienced successful Manager to come to Ewood?

On what basis do they criticise Appleton before the guy has had a chance other than experience is limited - but all Managers at some stage of their careers had no experience including Sir Alex & Mark Hughes

BRAG if you have the finance to buy Rovers buy it and then you can make the decisions but if you want to prolong your criticism of the club - is it any wonder Roevrs stock has plummeted - it is bad enough with Venkys without your twopenny worth being banded about in the National Press - Venkys dont listen and the football authorities can only intervene if regulations have been broken.

Remember we are now a middle of the table Championship side whether you like it or not. Leave the Politics and enjoy the football otherwise the club will be killed off - is that what the fans really want?

whappen wrote:

lusorover wrote:
The statements and actions of so-called supporters' groups are only fanning the flames. To be talking of protests before the Club has even spoken to a potential manager is petulant and childish. Is someone has the 40 million it would need to buy the Club then they shut put up or shut up. In the meantime we are stuck with Venkys. Decent fans will give any new manager a chance. The motives of those who don't are very questionable.

How is this club worth £40mill?

Venkys bought it for about half that and took on the debt.

The debt is still there but we have lost over £25mill in TV income alone this year. Losses will probably be more than that come the end of the season with no realistic hope of being back into the PL (and the increased TV deal) next. We've sold all our playing assets which are worth anything (we wouldn't get £8mill back for Rhodes) so what would anyone be buying?

An ailing business bordering on bankruptcy. £10mill would seem a more than reasonable price.

glen9mullan wrote:
Would like to comment if I may.
At no point does this press release state anything about a protest. Secondly I think tomorrows news of one Agents involvement in this deal will have people spitting feathers

Fyrover wrote:
Who do they want???????

jim 2012 wrote:

Fyrover wrote:
Who do they want???????

my vote chris coleman

whappen wrote:

Fan@clared wrote:

bypass06 wrote:

rover'n'out wrote: Fed up and not going back till this mess is sorted out. 20,000 supporters put £1,000 into the pot gives you £20 million. Each supporter gets an equal share Buy for £10 mil gives you £10 mil in the pot for running costs. I'm sure you would get some local sponsors to put more into the coffers. Appoint an experienced ceo. Bring the kids through and build up. Look at Swansea- nearly out of business 8 years ago.

Why do people keep saying "Look at Swansea we could do that". Get real, the only reason Swansea are where they are is. 1....Their owner bought the club for £1. 2.....The board agreed to give 20 % of shares. 3...All they had to do to get a share, was to buy a season ticket. If you think that will ever happen here, Think again.

I am impartial here but I have met many of these types over the years on the sub-continent and you are bang on with your assessment.

The owner only had to pay £1 because the club was laden with debt which it couldn't repay and was therefore worth nothing as a business.

Swansea City FC is where it is as a football club because it has been responsibly and competently run. They appointed officials and managers who fitted in with their ideas and ideals which has led them to be a PL club which plays a pretty d@mn good style of football.

Lucky maybe and as with most clubs of their size they will be relegated in time, but it shows what can be done.

Points 2 & 3 are irrelevant as regards the sale of theclub. You could say they are part of the reason the club is where it is now as they gave the supporters the feeling they were part of it. We've been bemoaning how Rovers is no longer a family club so why is giving the fans shares such a bad thing?

OssyRover95 wrote:

mark007 wrote:
So is they any truth in BRAG being given an office by Venkys in the Darwen end stand?

Yes. Its a walk in centre but you have to make an appointment. Hmmm, how do work that one out?