Singh's New Year managerial aim (From This Is Lancashire)

drunken donut wrote:
As for Shabby on radio 5 live, it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Coaching, coaching is very important and so is managering, managering is important too. And what about running, running has to be involved at some point but not just running on the spot with a bit of kicking, kicking is always good but much better away from your goal box.
I also find passing, passing is sometimes overlooked in the game today. And also I think that tackling, tackling can work to some degree. But not from behind, no, no, no, no, no, Ryan giggs tackles like all good centre halves should do I enjoy watching him play there for England at Lords
An excert from the upcoming Football training bible from Junad Ali and Shebbys school of soccer

sonny wrote:
More Anti-Shebby Singh propaganda from Paul Agnew & Derek Shaw doing the rounds this weekend in the tabloids, Agnew&Shaw are the really poison at BRFC any fan that does a little research(other than reading the tabloids) knows that. Singh's a nutter but his heart seems to be in the right place, Shebbys just very misguided because his so-called Colleagues have being playing him from day one(just like they have been playing the venkys from day 1 of there take-over).

To.guy wrote:
The problem with rovers fans is that venkys have nurtured such suspicion in us we are now compelled to identify the suspect. We have to realize that there isn't just one. We have a complicated crime ring and with venkys as the clueless ringleader there is a play off going on between the others - Agnew,shaw, Singh possibly with influence from JA. Singh is the bumbling stool pigeon. Agnew(don't forget means ally ) and shaw are playing him like a fiddle. Agnew is not to be trusted. If they get Singh out, we are in deeper trouble believe me.

Venkytrash wrote:
The global adviser was on the pitch after the dingles game being applauded!!!! He was without doubt a half wit then!!!! Why did people cheer this Malaysian tea boy then? I for one couldn't understand it?

McRover wrote:
There's no doubt that Singh is a complete buffon, I'd agree with you there. I do believe, however, that Agnew and Shaw are the real villans here and am in no doubt that all the stories leaked to press come from them. They were both brought in by Kean and they're allegiance is to a certain management company run by a certain agent. They ALL need to be removed and replaced with decent football people who don't have their own agenda. Unfortunately I don't believe Venkys have the sense to do this.Worrying times ahead.

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

Rover Pete wrote:
Has anybody a clue as to what Venky's are trying to do with Rovers?
They have not done one single thing right. How on earth did this shower end up so called millionaires? It must be very easy to make money in India. The farce still goes on. Singh is obviously crazy and totally out of his depth but Venky's still trust him and think he can walk on water.
We are going down to League 1 - no question. But why, oh why, are Venky's so happy to see it happen? There is nothing in it for them, is there?
Now it looks as though Givet, Pederson, Dunn and Robinson are going to be sold in January. Another bad move and a downwards step. Do Venky's know or care how stupid they have made themselves and the few supporters (myself included!) that are still left going to matches?

Rover Pete wrote:
Has anybody a clue as to what Venky's are trying to do with Rovers?
They have not done one single thing right. How on earth did this shower end up so called millionaires? It must be very easy to make money in India. The farce still goes on. Singh is obviously crazy and totally out of his depth but Venky's still trust him and think he can walk on water.
We are going down to League 1 - no question. But why, oh why, are Venky's so happy to see it happen? There is nothing in it for them, is there?
Now it looks as though Givet, Pederson, Dunn and Robinson are going to be sold in January. Another bad move and a downwards step. Do Venky's know or care how stupid they have made themselves and the few supporters (myself included!) that are still left going to matches?

holmesy69 wrote:

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

club

holmesy69 wrote:

holmesy69 wrote:
Shebby is the one we need to get out of the as he thinks he can pick the team and who rovers buy **** off shebby

club

Rover Pete wrote:
Has anybody a clue as to what Venky's are trying to do with Rovers?
They have not done one single thing right. How on earth did this shower end up so called millionaires? It must be very easy to make money in India. The farce still goes on. Singh is obviously crazy and totally out of his depth but Venky's still trust him and think he can walk on water.
We are going down to League 1 - no question. But why, oh why, are Venky's so happy to see it happen? There is nothing in it for them, is there?
Now it looks as though Givet, Pederson, Dunn and Robinson are going to be sold in January. Another bad move and a downwards step. Do Venky's know or care how stupid they have made themselves and the few supporters (myself included!) that are still left going to matches?

eddyo wrote:

Rover Pete wrote:
Has anybody a clue as to what Venky's are trying to do with Rovers?
They have not done one single thing right. How on earth did this shower end up so called millionaires? It must be very easy to make money in India. The farce still goes on. Singh is obviously crazy and totally out of his depth but Venky's still trust him and think he can walk on water.
We are going down to League 1 - no question. But why, oh why, are Venky's so happy to see it happen? There is nothing in it for them, is there?
Now it looks as though Givet, Pederson, Dunn and Robinson are going to be sold in January. Another bad move and a downwards step. Do Venky's know or care how stupid they have made themselves and the few supporters (myself included!) that are still left going to matches?

Daddy started the Venkys business and like all spoiled, rich kids they will blow it all - a bit like Jack's brood.

Venkytrash wrote:
The global adviser was on the pitch after the dingles game being applauded!!!! He was without doubt a half wit then!!!! Why did people cheer this Malaysian tea boy then? I for one couldn't understand it?

Ray Gunn wrote:
Lets Just hope they get the right man for the job this time and that our lads can take some confidence from the win at oakwell, with that in mind saggy ping needs to go, i know alot on here are blowing up his arse, but as a global adviser your job is to advise, and lets be honest he's not done a great job at advising...the bloke knows very little about English football let alone how to listen to fans, he avoids questions like the plague and he's only aim is to please the chicken farmers and keep his well paid job....therefore OUT WITH PING....and i hope this past year has been a wake up call for the Chicken lot...and that you cant just appoint a bloke to global adviser because he's the same nationality as you, a coach because you like his Bollywood films or a manager because he comes on the cheep and will dance to your tune....it doesn't work like that in fooball...if anything if we were to have a global adviser then he should be British...and before the tree huggers start with the racist cr*p, there was none intended, but British/English football is marketed as a product and you need someone who has grown up with a product who has worked on the product, who has lived and breathed the product to be able to truly sell the product for it's true worth, but back to the venkys, this is there last chance to get it right, they need to leave the running of the club to the manager and his staff, they need to INVEST and invest wisely to get us back to the premier league and not to start penny pinching again, they need to get us fans back on their side, our club does need investment and to be honest as a fan i don't really care where it comes from as long as it's done in the best interest of the club and its supporters, yes the venkys are in this to make a profit, but to enable the owners to start making a profit there will be time of losses at the start, and this is largely down to their own stupidity by getting rid of some top people at the club, so now they have to start again and thus incur losses, but thats a way of life, if the venkys are in this for the long haul then its a small price to pay to build a successful football club....however if there intentions are to take, take, take from the club then they may as well pack their bags now because they may think of us LOWER CLASS fans as stupid, we're not and we can see through the haze of c*ap and they will never have the true backing of the fans and as such there will be no harmony at the club....HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS AND GIRLS,,,,,,,COYB

MerlinTheVoiceofReas
on2 wrote:

Ray Gunn wrote:
Lets Just hope they get the right man for the job this time and that our lads can take some confidence from the win at oakwell, with that in mind saggy ping needs to go, i know alot on here are blowing up his arse, but as a global adviser your job is to advise, and lets be honest he's not done a great job at advising...the bloke knows very little about English football let alone how to listen to fans, he avoids questions like the plague and he's only aim is to please the chicken farmers and keep his well paid job....therefore OUT WITH PING....and i hope this past year has been a wake up call for the Chicken lot...and that you cant just appoint a bloke to global adviser because he's the same nationality as you, a coach because you like his Bollywood films or a manager because he comes on the cheep and will dance to your tune....it doesn't work like that in fooball...if anything if we were to have a global adviser then he should be British...and before the tree huggers start with the racist cr*p, there was none intended, but British/English football is marketed as a product and you need someone who has grown up with a product who has worked on the product, who has lived and breathed the product to be able to truly sell the product for it's true worth, but back to the venkys, this is there last chance to get it right, they need to leave the running of the club to the manager and his staff, they need to INVEST and invest wisely to get us back to the premier league and not to start penny pinching again, they need to get us fans back on their side, our club does need investment and to be honest as a fan i don't really care where it comes from as long as it's done in the best interest of the club and its supporters, yes the venkys are in this to make a profit, but to enable the owners to start making a profit there will be time of losses at the start, and this is largely down to their own stupidity by getting rid of some top people at the club, so now they have to start again and thus incur losses, but thats a way of life, if the venkys are in this for the long haul then its a small price to pay to build a successful football club....however if there intentions are to take, take, take from the club then they may as well pack their bags now because they may think of us LOWER CLASS fans as stupid, we're not and we can see through the haze of c*ap and they will never have the true backing of the fans and as such there will be no harmony at the club....HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS AND GIRLS,,,,,,,COYB

Shebby is not the same nationality as the Venkys. They are Indian and he is Malaysian - born in Kluang, Johor.

mike55 wrote:
The continuing pantomime at Rovers is like watching the tv series Homeland - I have no idea who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Indeed do we have any good guys at the club? SS seems to be playing 'Championship Manager',becoming more dictatorial by the day and developing a cult of personality which will eventually see him purge the enemies within (Shaw and Agnew) sooner rather than later. Meanwhile Shaw and Agnew go and grass to Mummy in India that SS is not playing fair and trying to oust them or at least go behind their backs.And the question beckons,who is putting out all these press leaks every day about all the shenanigans going on at Ewood?

Meanwhile we have disaffected players on high wages who will want to leave in January though I cannot imagine there will be too many takers.

At this moment in time I would rather Rovers did a Rangers- be demoted to whatever League and start again under different ownership but with Rovers true interests at heart ( and I say that supporting Rovers for over 60 years).

Why can't we have a decent owner and chairman like Dave Whelan,an ex Rover?

mike55 wrote:
Shebby Singh rather than wasting time showing Judan Ali how Rovers coach their team (not too well) should spend his time visiting Wigan Athletic, a glowing example of how a small town English club runs and operates a successful operation.It would be time well spent. Get the Venkys to arrange a visit too!!

MerlinTheVoiceofReas
on2 wrote:

McRover wrote:
There's no doubt that Singh is a complete buffon, I'd agree with you there. I do believe, however, that Agnew and Shaw are the real villans here and am in no doubt that all the stories leaked to press come from them. They were both brought in by Kean and they're allegiance is to a certain management company run by a certain agent. They ALL need to be removed and replaced with decent football people who don't have their own agenda. Unfortunately I don't believe Venkys have the sense to do this.Worrying times ahead.

Shebby's 5 Live interview was a masterclass in obfuscation. However, if you read between the lines you can just about decipher what he's (wrongly in my view) trying to do.
He prattled on about watching BRFC for many years and us not having a "footballing philosophy" - that's key to his whole approach and the basis for him interfering at every level at the club. What he wants is (1) to decide and impose his own footballing philosophy and style; (2) put in place a coaching regime that will deliver that philosophy - hence his moves to put in coaches first before a manager, who not only teach footballing skills but do the fitness, diet and psychology stuff; and then (3) a manager is put in place to motivate the team on match days. In Shebby's model, the manager is almost superfluous - and therefore doesn't need to be expensive, doesn't need to be influential and doesn't need to be a big name. In fact, he's just a figurehead and someone who speaks with the media. In order to maintain this "philosophy", Shebby WILL get involved in transfers and team selection. It is clear that SS thinks Portugese players in particular fit in well with his "philosophy" and they are cheap to boot. Unfortunately, this model is not really in use in England. Managers DO have a much bigger role - they do get involved in transfers (of course sanctioned by the chequebook holders), they do select the team and they do decide on footballing tactics and style of play. What SS and Venkys are trying to do - and it won't work - is flip the English model on its' head. Hence the total mess at Ewood. Hence the internal divisions - Agnew, Shaw et al wanting to do things in the traditional way, SS trying to take complete control of the club to impose his vision and having to talk nonsense all the time to the media to explain these bizarre comedic chain of events. Let Shaw take control and bring back some sanity.

sonny wrote:
More Anti-Shebby Singh propaganda from Paul Agnew & Derek Shaw doing the rounds this weekend in the tabloids, Agnew&Shaw are the really poison at BRFC any fan that does a little research(other than reading the tabloids) knows that. Singh's a nutter but his heart seems to be in the right place, Shebbys just very misguided because his so-called Colleagues have being playing him from day one(just like they have been playing the venkys from day 1 of there take-over).

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Couldnt make a direct anagram work with shebbys title of 'Shebby Singh, Global Advisor'... Here are some words made from the letters in it though:

His Royal Badness
Load bearing boss
Early diagnosis
Behaving Badly
Biobehavioral
Diagnosis, oral bs


RTID

blueblooded wrote:

mike55 wrote:
The continuing pantomime at Rovers is like watching the tv series Homeland - I have no idea who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Indeed do we have any good guys at the club? SS seems to be playing 'Championship Manager',becoming more dictatorial by the day and developing a cult of personality which will eventually see him purge the enemies within (Shaw and Agnew) sooner rather than later. Meanwhile Shaw and Agnew go and grass to Mummy in India that SS is not playing fair and trying to oust them or at least go behind their backs.And the question beckons,who is putting out all these press leaks every day about all the shenanigans going on at Ewood?

Meanwhile we have disaffected players on high wages who will want to leave in January though I cannot imagine there will be too many takers.

At this moment in time I would rather Rovers did a Rangers- be demoted to whatever League and start again under different ownership but with Rovers true interests at heart ( and I say that supporting Rovers for over 60 years).

Why can't we have a decent owner and chairman like Dave Whelan,an ex Rover?

By the end of this week, either Singh will have gone or he will indeed become all-powerful.

My thoughts are that as Merlinthevoiceofreas

on2's very shrewd analysis, Shebby is trying to make his mark on the team and club and while I still maintain the rumours of him forcing team selections are exaggerated, I also feel he is wanting to become the next Wenger/Mourinho in the future after guiding this club to success as he believes he can. The Kean debacle has allowed him to cement his position, but he was brought in for exactly the reasons of "fighting the enemies" as he claims, as Venky's probably felt they were losing control of what was happening at the club.

That said, calling for Singh's dismissal is not going to be counter-productive at this moment, as will protesting or boycotting. He appointed Berg on results based continued employment,and fired him after deciding it wasn't working. As concerned as Venky's will have been by the continued tumble down turn results wise, they will probably at this moment breathing a sigh of relief that they didn't have to go through the Kean fiasco again and I very much doubt Singh has been damaged much by the sacking - probably a lot more damage from the bumbling interview the other day, but not significantly so.

The solution? Shout from the rooftops, Social media sites - Twitter especially, who should be the next manager. I don't particularly like Hughes, McLeish was my choice after Berg's sacking, but with him out of the running, Im putting my mark against Hughes.

Hughes has a HUGE backroom that follow him and he can bring stability to the club AND curb Singh's Championship Manager aspirations whilst we get the club back on an even keel.

Singh likes to listen to play to the crowds, let's voice in Unison our choices of REALISTIC and AVAILABLE managers that have either shown interest or you think would come to the club and do what is necessary.

HUGHES IN.

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail

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bobinspain wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

mike55 wrote:
The continuing pantomime at Rovers is like watching the tv series Homeland - I have no idea who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Indeed do we have any good guys at the club? SS seems to be playing 'Championship Manager',becoming more dictatorial by the day and developing a cult of personality which will eventually see him purge the enemies within (Shaw and Agnew) sooner rather than later. Meanwhile Shaw and Agnew go and grass to Mummy in India that SS is not playing fair and trying to oust them or at least go behind their backs.And the question beckons,who is putting out all these press leaks every day about all the shenanigans going on at Ewood?

Meanwhile we have disaffected players on high wages who will want to leave in January though I cannot imagine there will be too many takers.

At this moment in time I would rather Rovers did a Rangers- be demoted to whatever League and start again under different ownership but with Rovers true interests at heart ( and I say that supporting Rovers for over 60 years).

Why can't we have a decent owner and chairman like Dave Whelan,an ex Rover?

By the end of this week, either Singh will have gone or he will indeed become all-powerful.

My thoughts are that as Merlinthevoiceofreas


on2's very shrewd analysis, Shebby is trying to make his mark on the team and club and while I still maintain the rumours of him forcing team selections are exaggerated, I also feel he is wanting to become the next Wenger/Mourinho in the future after guiding this club to success as he believes he can. The Kean debacle has allowed him to cement his position, but he was brought in for exactly the reasons of "fighting the enemies" as he claims, as Venky's probably felt they were losing control of what was happening at the club.

That said, calling for Singh's dismissal is not going to be counter-productive at this moment, as will protesting or boycotting. He appointed Berg on results based continued employment,and fired him after deciding it wasn't working. As concerned as Venky's will have been by the continued tumble down turn results wise, they will probably at this moment breathing a sigh of relief that they didn't have to go through the Kean fiasco again and I very much doubt Singh has been damaged much by the sacking - probably a lot more damage from the bumbling interview the other day, but not significantly so.

The solution? Shout from the rooftops, Social media sites - Twitter especially, who should be the next manager. I don't particularly like Hughes, McLeish was my choice after Berg's sacking, but with him out of the running, Im putting my mark against Hughes.

Hughes has a HUGE backroom that follow him and he can bring stability to the club AND curb Singh's Championship Manager aspirations whilst we get the club back on an even keel.

Singh likes to listen to play to the crowds, let's voice in Unison our choices of REALISTIC and AVAILABLE managers that have either shown interest or you think would come to the club and do what is necessary.

HUGHES IN.

As a neutral observer, I can't understand your faith in Hughes as a manager.
He's hardly inspirational. He had an appalling track record at QPR, where incidentally, he spent like a man with no arms and insisted on being surrounded by his own (highly paid) acolytes.
Given that Venky's have short arms and notoriously long pockets, I doubt they'd fork out the spondulicks required to tempt him to BRFC in any event.
I wouldn't pay him to run a whelk stall.

lancs1985 wrote:
A club full of 1st class idiots
Shaw trashed Preston
Shebby doesn't no his arse from elbow
And Agnew well well
Keans little bum licker, changing job titles, making senior staff jobs untenable ie John newsham,

Get the whole sherbang down the m65 to dingle land

Rovers will be same or build again till these 3pillocks are gone!!!!!

RIP BRFC

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail


.co.uk/sport/footbal


l/article-2255191/Bl


ackburn-Rovers-crisi


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bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2255191/Bl

ackburn-Rovers-crisi

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sonny wrote:
More Anti-Shebby Singh propaganda from Paul Agnew & Derek Shaw doing the rounds this weekend in the tabloids, Agnew&Shaw are the really poison at BRFC any fan that does a little research(other than reading the tabloids) knows that. Singh's a nutter but his heart seems to be in the right place, Shebbys just very misguided because his so-called Colleagues have being playing him from day one(just like they have been playing the venkys from day 1 of there take-over).

leitchy wrote:
How can Shaw and Agnew now work with Shebby?? Something has to give....hopefully Shebbys job... Taxi 4 Shebby!!

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail



.co.uk/sport/footbal



l/article-2255191/Bl



ackburn-Rovers-crisi



s-players-revolt-She



bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

merlinrabbit wrote:

leitchy wrote:
How can Shaw and Agnew now work with Shebby?? Something has to give....hopefully Shebbys job... Taxi 4 Shebby!!

You are all missing something. all three are useless, devisive, manipulative, clueless etc. it's just that Shebby demonstrates his failings openly. the other two just do it behind the scenes. You will be complaining if we fall into the power of Paul Agnew. Some fans need to be a bit more savvy about the problems down there.

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail



.co.uk/sport/footbal



l/article-2255191/Bl



ackburn-Rovers-crisi



s-players-revolt-She



bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

leitchy wrote:
How can Shaw and Agnew now work with Shebby?? Something has to give....hopefully Shebbys job... Taxi 4 Shebby!!

lancs1985 wrote:

lancs1985 wrote:
A club full of 1st class idiots
Shaw trashed Preston
Shebby doesn't no his arse from elbow
And Agnew well well
Keans little bum licker, changing job titles, making senior staff jobs untenable ie John newsham,

Get the whole sherbang down the m65 to dingle land

Rovers will be same or build again till these 3pillocks are gone!!!!!

RIP BRFC

Will never be the same again

edmy wrote:

leitchy wrote: How can Shaw and Agnew now work with Shebby?? Something has to give....hopefully Shebbys job... Taxi 4 Shebby!!

I do know that the Daily Mail is not gospel (contrary to your sarcasm) merely pointing anyone that is interested to another viewpoint.

To.guy wrote:

edmy wrote: Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed. "THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell. Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn Senior players revolt after poor start to season Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2255191/Bl ackburn-Rovers-crisi s-players-revolt-She bby-Singh

You do know Daily Mail isn't gospel don't you?

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail




.co.uk/sport/footbal




l/article-2255191/Bl




ackburn-Rovers-crisi




s-players-revolt-She




bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Dublin rover wrote:
so new years day we find out who the new boss is ?.is that in the morning or or 2014 hehe. but as i said in other posts all 3 must go. they must get on there knees and ask john willams and tony parks to come back. then we would get a good manager.i have got a feeling the venkys look at theses pages. so do the right thing venkys sell up or get john and tony in who love the club and know how to run it .And to all my fellow rovers fans
have a happy new

peely wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail




.co.uk/sport/footbal




l/article-2255191/Bl




ackburn-Rovers-crisi




s-players-revolt-She




bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

"In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make any money from transfer dealings ". Oh. Per lease , come on - do we really need to spell it out how this agent / club employee bung works ! The whole scenario stinks from top to bottom , it's now just a case of who can make the most before the ship goes t"st up ! And the mug paying fans left in the lurch while greedy players/ agents /senior management move on to pastures new with their pockets filled not to mention foreign bank accounts!

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail





.co.uk/sport/footbal





l/article-2255191/Bl





ackburn-Rovers-crisi





s-players-revolt-She





bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Yesterday you asked me if I had any proof/evidence to back-up my OPINIONS, accused fellow fans of stirring up hatred and scoffed at them for believing everything the papers print. Yet, here you are saying that Shaw and Agnew are getting kick-backs from player transfers.

Hmmm, I'm sure you know what's coming next but I'll ask you anyway: do you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your claims?

Darwener living in Canada wrote:

Rover Pete wrote:
Has anybody a clue as to what Venky's are trying to do with Rovers?
They have not done one single thing right. How on earth did this shower end up so called millionaires? It must be very easy to make money in India. The farce still goes on. Singh is obviously crazy and totally out of his depth but Venky's still trust him and think he can walk on water.
We are going down to League 1 - no question. But why, oh why, are Venky's so happy to see it happen? There is nothing in it for them, is there?
Now it looks as though Givet, Pederson, Dunn and Robinson are going to be sold in January. Another bad move and a downwards step. Do Venky's know or care how stupid they have made themselves and the few supporters (myself included!) that are still left going to matches?

Rovers will not be relegated to League 1 as you stated, even I know there are more than 3 teams more dire than us at the moment. As for the players you mentioned leaving in January so what? They are too slow/old and not fit enough for this league and I would add a few more players to your list. They have been good servants but needs must and teams need fast paced players in this league with zero time on the ball.

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail






.co.uk/sport/footbal






l/article-2255191/Bl






ackburn-Rovers-crisi






s-players-revolt-She






bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Yesterday you asked me if I had any proof/evidence to back-up my OPINIONS, accused fellow fans of stirring up hatred and scoffed at them for believing everything the papers print. Yet, here you are saying that Shaw and Agnew are getting kick-backs from player transfers.

Hmmm, I'm sure you know what's coming next but I'll ask you anyway: do you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your claims?

I'm not saying they are. I asked a question. A valid one, since its all everyone has said about the set up after Kean was installed and players sold off and cheapos brought in. Its not exactly a breaking story or news that fans have questioned agents involvement .. or did you miss that?

Bangkok Rover wrote:
I'd rather have Shaw choose the manager than Singh. Bringing in coaches first then back-tracking after negative fans' reaction - what a shambles. Singh out. HNY to all!

Dublin rover wrote:
so new years day we find out who the new boss is ?.is that in the morning or or 2014 hehe. but as i said in other posts all 3 must go. they must get on there knees and ask john willams and tony parks to come back. then we would get a good manager.i have got a feeling the venkys look at theses pages. so do the right thing venkys sell up or get john and tony in who love the club and know how to run it .And to all my fellow rovers fans
have a happy new

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

mike55 wrote:
Shebby Singh rather than wasting time showing Judan Ali how Rovers coach their team (not too well) should spend his time visiting Wigan Athletic, a glowing example of how a small town English club runs and operates a successful operation.It would be time well spent. Get the Venkys to arrange a visit too!!

What a good post! A first class chairman and a loyal, well respected manager. What a combination!

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail







.co.uk/sport/footbal







l/article-2255191/Bl







ackburn-Rovers-crisi







s-players-revolt-She







bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Yesterday you asked me if I had any proof/evidence to back-up my OPINIONS, accused fellow fans of stirring up hatred and scoffed at them for believing everything the papers print. Yet, here you are saying that Shaw and Agnew are getting kick-backs from player transfers.

Hmmm, I'm sure you know what's coming next but I'll ask you anyway: do you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your claims?

I'm not saying they are. I asked a question. A valid one, since its all everyone has said about the set up after Kean was installed and players sold off and cheapos brought in. Its not exactly a breaking story or news that fans have questioned agents involvement .. or did you miss that?

I suggest you reread what you typed before you try patronising me as that is exactly what you've said.

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail








.co.uk/sport/footbal








l/article-2255191/Bl








ackburn-Rovers-crisi








s-players-revolt-She








bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Yesterday you asked me if I had any proof/evidence to back-up my OPINIONS, accused fellow fans of stirring up hatred and scoffed at them for believing everything the papers print. Yet, here you are saying that Shaw and Agnew are getting kick-backs from player transfers.

Hmmm, I'm sure you know what's coming next but I'll ask you anyway: do you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your claims?

I'm not saying they are. I asked a question. A valid one, since its all everyone has said about the set up after Kean was installed and players sold off and cheapos brought in. Its not exactly a breaking story or news that fans have questioned agents involvement .. or did you miss that?

I suggest you reread what you typed before you try patronising me as that is exactly what you've said.

I dont need to patronise you srvp, your posts speak for themselves.

But just to humour you:

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans? "

FYI, the "?" at the end is called a question mark, used for denoting that a question is being asked.

Now THAT's patronising. Feel free to argue about the merits of the question but maybe tomorrow when the word of the day toilet paper brings a new word.

alfa111 wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

mike55 wrote:
Shebby Singh rather than wasting time showing Judan Ali how Rovers coach their team (not too well) should spend his time visiting Wigan Athletic, a glowing example of how a small town English club runs and operates a successful operation.It would be time well spent. Get the Venkys to arrange a visit too!!

What a good post! A first class chairman and a loyal, well respected manager. What a combination!

Second that fella but as we know all to well venkys and coco the clown no better than anybody else when it comes to football .

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail









.co.uk/sport/footbal









l/article-2255191/Bl









ackburn-Rovers-crisi









s-players-revolt-She









bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Yesterday you asked me if I had any proof/evidence to back-up my OPINIONS, accused fellow fans of stirring up hatred and scoffed at them for believing everything the papers print. Yet, here you are saying that Shaw and Agnew are getting kick-backs from player transfers.

Hmmm, I'm sure you know what's coming next but I'll ask you anyway: do you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your claims?

I'm not saying they are. I asked a question. A valid one, since its all everyone has said about the set up after Kean was installed and players sold off and cheapos brought in. Its not exactly a breaking story or news that fans have questioned agents involvement .. or did you miss that?

I suggest you reread what you typed before you try patronising me as that is exactly what you've said.

I dont need to patronise you srvp, your posts speak for themselves.

But just to humour you:

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans? "

FYI, the "?" at the end is called a question mark, used for denoting that a question is being asked.

Now THAT's patronising. Feel free to argue about the merits of the question but maybe tomorrow when the word of the day toilet paper brings a new word.

So that's twice you've tried to patronise me and twice you've failed.

"Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?"

Yes, it's a question but it still contains the premise that you believe them to be taking kickbacks from underhand dealings. If you'd asked, "WERE you stealing money from the club before Singh came along, etc..." then it becomes a question without any personal beliefs attached to it.

I hope you've got some Aloe Vera to hand because you just got burned!

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail










.co.uk/sport/footbal










l/article-2255191/Bl










ackburn-Rovers-crisi










s-players-revolt-She










bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Yesterday you asked me if I had any proof/evidence to back-up my OPINIONS, accused fellow fans of stirring up hatred and scoffed at them for believing everything the papers print. Yet, here you are saying that Shaw and Agnew are getting kick-backs from player transfers.

Hmmm, I'm sure you know what's coming next but I'll ask you anyway: do you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your claims?

I'm not saying they are. I asked a question. A valid one, since its all everyone has said about the set up after Kean was installed and players sold off and cheapos brought in. Its not exactly a breaking story or news that fans have questioned agents involvement .. or did you miss that?

I suggest you reread what you typed before you try patronising me as that is exactly what you've said.

I dont need to patronise you srvp, your posts speak for themselves.

But just to humour you:

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans? "

FYI, the "?" at the end is called a question mark, used for denoting that a question is being asked.

Now THAT's patronising. Feel free to argue about the merits of the question but maybe tomorrow when the word of the day toilet paper brings a new word.

So that's twice you've tried to patronise me and twice you've failed.

"Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?"

Yes, it's a question but it still contains the premise that you believe them to be taking kickbacks from underhand dealings. If you'd asked, "WERE you stealing money from the club before Singh came along, etc..." then it becomes a question without any personal beliefs attached to it.

I hope you've got some Aloe Vera to hand because you just got burned!

I just figured out tomorrows word of the day for you srvp.. its pedantic.

Also how old are you? Burned?

Hmm... 28 should be an age of maturity.. but people mature at different rates I suppose. Do yourself a favour, read back through both our posts and come back when you figure out what was wrong with the conversation. Till then I'll just assume your petulance is due to some need of attention, which clearly from your posts is telling.

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail











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bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Yesterday you asked me if I had any proof/evidence to back-up my OPINIONS, accused fellow fans of stirring up hatred and scoffed at them for believing everything the papers print. Yet, here you are saying that Shaw and Agnew are getting kick-backs from player transfers.

Hmmm, I'm sure you know what's coming next but I'll ask you anyway: do you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your claims?

I'm not saying they are. I asked a question. A valid one, since its all everyone has said about the set up after Kean was installed and players sold off and cheapos brought in. Its not exactly a breaking story or news that fans have questioned agents involvement .. or did you miss that?

I suggest you reread what you typed before you try patronising me as that is exactly what you've said.

I dont need to patronise you srvp, your posts speak for themselves.

But just to humour you:

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans? "

FYI, the "?" at the end is called a question mark, used for denoting that a question is being asked.

Now THAT's patronising. Feel free to argue about the merits of the question but maybe tomorrow when the word of the day toilet paper brings a new word.

So that's twice you've tried to patronise me and twice you've failed.

"Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?"

Yes, it's a question but it still contains the premise that you believe them to be taking kickbacks from underhand dealings. If you'd asked, "WERE you stealing money from the club before Singh came along, etc..." then it becomes a question without any personal beliefs attached to it.

I hope you've got some Aloe Vera to hand because you just got burned!

I just figured out tomorrows word of the day for you srvp.. its pedantic.

Also how old are you? Burned?

Hmm... 28 should be an age of maturity.. but people mature at different rates I suppose. Do yourself a favour, read back through both our posts and come back when you figure out what was wrong with the conversation. Till then I'll just assume your petulance is due to some need of attention, which clearly from your posts is telling.

If you try to patronise someone they are well within their rights to correct you without being called pedantic. for starters ut doesnt fit in with the context or thread of the conversation. Just because you try to make other people look stupid it doesn't mean you're always right. You tried to belittle me, like you do everyone else on here, but you ended up making yourself look stupid.

Trying to make out that I'm juvenile because I used the word 'burned', or making out that I'm intellectually inferior to you by referencing 'Word of the Day' toilet paper is not only desperate but also very sad. Even if either were true, which they're not, it still doesn't detract from the fact that your patronising was premature. If anything, It would have been better if I was juvenile and stupid, it would make your humbling all the better.

I've reread our conversation and there's nothing in there to convince me that I was wrong. All I've learned is that you're so hell bent on being right all the time that when you're wrong you try and detract from other people's arguments by insulting them and insinuating that they're not as intelligent as you.

I dare say that this is where you'll type something along the lines of, 'I don't have to insinuate anything, your posts prove my point'. Or something equally as childish. Just for the record, 28 isn't my age, so I guess that's another thing you were wrong about. Not that age has a direct correlation to intelligence.

It doesn't matter what insults you come back with, and you will, it won't change the fact that you had the smug grin wiped off your face for a change. Even if you won't admit it, anybody who reads this thread will know it.

Perhaps one of your resolutions should be to stop exerting your self-importance over your fellow fans. Don't waste my time again.

Happy New Year.

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail












.co.uk/sport/footbal












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bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

You've never heard of a kickback? :/

Yesterday you asked me if I had any proof/evidence to back-up my OPINIONS, accused fellow fans of stirring up hatred and scoffed at them for believing everything the papers print. Yet, here you are saying that Shaw and Agnew are getting kick-backs from player transfers.

Hmmm, I'm sure you know what's coming next but I'll ask you anyway: do you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your claims?

I'm not saying they are. I asked a question. A valid one, since its all everyone has said about the set up after Kean was installed and players sold off and cheapos brought in. Its not exactly a breaking story or news that fans have questioned agents involvement .. or did you miss that?

I suggest you reread what you typed before you try patronising me as that is exactly what you've said.

I dont need to patronise you srvp, your posts speak for themselves.

But just to humour you:

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans? "

FYI, the "?" at the end is called a question mark, used for denoting that a question is being asked.

Now THAT's patronising. Feel free to argue about the merits of the question but maybe tomorrow when the word of the day toilet paper brings a new word.

So that's twice you've tried to patronise me and twice you've failed.

"Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?"

Yes, it's a question but it still contains the premise that you believe them to be taking kickbacks from underhand dealings. If you'd asked, "WERE you stealing money from the club before Singh came along, etc..." then it becomes a question without any personal beliefs attached to it.

I hope you've got some Aloe Vera to hand because you just got burned!

I just figured out tomorrows word of the day for you srvp.. its pedantic.

Also how old are you? Burned?

Hmm... 28 should be an age of maturity.. but people mature at different rates I suppose. Do yourself a favour, read back through both our posts and come back when you figure out what was wrong with the conversation. Till then I'll just assume your petulance is due to some need of attention, which clearly from your posts is telling.

If you try to patronise someone they are well within their rights to correct you without being called pedantic. for starters ut doesnt fit in with the context or thread of the conversation. Just because you try to make other people look stupid it doesn't mean you're always right. You tried to belittle me, like you do everyone else on here, but you ended up making yourself look stupid.

Trying to make out that I'm juvenile because I used the word 'burned', or making out that I'm intellectually inferior to you by referencing 'Word of the Day' toilet paper is not only desperate but also very sad. Even if either were true, which they're not, it still doesn't detract from the fact that your patronising was premature. If anything, It would have been better if I was juvenile and stupid, it would make your humbling all the better.

I've reread our conversation and there's nothing in there to convince me that I was wrong. All I've learned is that you're so hell bent on being right all the time that when you're wrong you try and detract from other people's arguments by insulting them and insinuating that they're not as intelligent as you.

I dare say that this is where you'll type something along the lines of, 'I don't have to insinuate anything, your posts prove my point'. Or something equally as childish. Just for the record, 28 isn't my age, so I guess that's another thing you were wrong about. Not that age has a direct correlation to intelligence.

It doesn't matter what insults you come back with, and you will, it won't change the fact that you had the smug grin wiped off your face for a change. Even if you won't admit it, anybody who reads this thread will know it.

Perhaps one of your resolutions should be to stop exerting your self-importance over your fellow fans. Don't waste my time again.

Happy New Year.

I wont bother requoting as its annoying but actually the only word that came to mind was YAWN. Jesus how boring was that post? it reminded me of Shebby's how to waffle and say nothing of real importance.

Maybe I'll reread it at midnight if I'm having trouble sleeping. srvp, I honestly wouldn't know where to start with your posts. you seemingly only to want to pick fights to prove pointless points to the point, that the point itself is lost.

Its new years eve. Lighten up and go have drink. I don't know which is worse, you for your boring the pants off me or me replying back to you.

And yes. Happy New Year to you too.

sonny wrote:
More Anti-Shebby Singh propaganda from Paul Agnew & Derek Shaw doing the rounds this weekend in the tabloids, Agnew&Shaw are the really poison at BRFC any fan that does a little research(other than reading the tabloids) knows that. Singh's a nutter but his heart seems to be in the right place, Shebbys just very misguided because his so-called Colleagues have being playing him from day one(just like they have been playing the venkys from day 1 of there take-over).

srvp28 wrote:

peely wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail





.co.uk/sport/footbal





l/article-2255191/Bl





ackburn-Rovers-crisi





s-players-revolt-She





bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

"In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make any money from transfer dealings ". Oh. Per lease , come on - do we really need to spell it out how this agent / club employee bung works ! The whole scenario stinks from top to bottom , it's now just a case of who can make the most before the ship goes t"st up ! And the mug paying fans left in the lurch while greedy players/ agents /senior management move on to pastures new with their pockets filled not to mention foreign bank accounts!

Don't talk to me like I'm a simpleton, I'm well aware of the amount of corruption in some sports. However, seeing as you have no proof of this I don't think you should be making those accusations. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean they're on the take.

It's almost as ridiculous as those people saying that Hendry is only being kept on because he owes money to someone from the Walker Trust. This is the same Walker Trust, I assume, who sold the club to Venky's over two years ago, long before Hendry was hired?

There's far too many people on here who want to believe that the club is rotten to the core just because they don't like the initial influence Jerome Anderson had at the club. These same people will try to convince you that he still has some influence, despite Venky's saying he doesn't.

wilyrover wrote:
Shebby Singh is merely a puppet on a string. He took pelters for the delay in appointing Berg and now he is going to rush in and announce the Norwegians successor in a sop to the supporters. The man hasn't a clue. He is delusional, misguided and completely out of his depth. It's time for him to return to the warmth of a TV studio. However judging by his interview on 606, he's not good at that either. The man doesn't even seem to know what his job entails and now he has reputedly alienated Derek Shaw and Paul Agnew. He is a loose cannon and needs to leave the club now.

yellow man wrote:

sonny wrote:
More Anti-Shebby Singh propaganda from Paul Agnew & Derek Shaw doing the rounds this weekend in the tabloids, Agnew&Shaw are the really poison at BRFC any fan that does a little research(other than reading the tabloids) knows that. Singh's a nutter but his heart seems to be in the right place, Shebbys just very misguided because his so-called Colleagues have being playing him from day one(just like they have been playing the venkys from day 1 of there take-over).

Absolutely correct but not forgetting Anderson with Messrs Agnew and Shaw but we must support the club at games to lift the players. We must try and support their efforts during matches and only call for these three to leave after the final whistle.

yellow man wrote:

sonny wrote:
More Anti-Shebby Singh propaganda from Paul Agnew & Derek Shaw doing the rounds this weekend in the tabloids, Agnew&Shaw are the really poison at BRFC any fan that does a little research(other than reading the tabloids) knows that. Singh's a nutter but his heart seems to be in the right place, Shebbys just very misguided because his so-called Colleagues have being playing him from day one(just like they have been playing the venkys from day 1 of there take-over).

Absolutely correct but not forgetting Anderson with Messrs Agnew and Shaw but we must support the club at games to lift the players. We must try and support their efforts during matches and only call for these three to leave after the final whistle.

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
How can Singh give the Indians a list of his preferred candidates for Madam to make a decision and what will her decision be based on? Blind leading the blind. Surely the FA or the football league should be calling for an explanation from the clowns. And what about Taylor of the Players Union. Not a word. Is he looking after his members interests, nit to mention him being a so-called pseudo Rovers fan. Does no-one out there care?

BRFC75 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

peely wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail






.co.uk/sport/footbal






l/article-2255191/Bl






ackburn-Rovers-crisi






s-players-revolt-She






bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

"In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make any money from transfer dealings ". Oh. Per lease , come on - do we really need to spell it out how this agent / club employee bung works ! The whole scenario stinks from top to bottom , it's now just a case of who can make the most before the ship goes t"st up ! And the mug paying fans left in the lurch while greedy players/ agents /senior management move on to pastures new with their pockets filled not to mention foreign bank accounts!

Don't talk to me like I'm a simpleton, I'm well aware of the amount of corruption in some sports. However, seeing as you have no proof of this I don't think you should be making those accusations. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean they're on the take.

It's almost as ridiculous as those people saying that Hendry is only being kept on because he owes money to someone from the Walker Trust. This is the same Walker Trust, I assume, who sold the club to Venky's over two years ago, long before Hendry was hired?

There's far too many people on here who want to believe that the club is rotten to the core just because they don't like the initial influence Jerome Anderson had at the club. These same people will try to convince you that he still has some influence, despite Venky's saying he doesn't.

Think if you have a look at Hendry`s creditors when he went bankrupt , he owed Howard Walker 150 ,000 pounds NOT the Walker trust ,this was a personal loan from Howard Walker to Hendry ,Hendry went bankrupt owing him this money, so as Coar a close friend of Howard Walker simlpy organised the job as a means to pay Walker his money back, obviously it is illegal, to pay back a preferred unsecured creditor it is against the law but it happens all the time, also Coar is a Burnley fan and tried to get on the board there years ago, so try and get your facts right before commenting.

Captain Dreckley wrote:

Rover Pete wrote: Has anybody a clue as to what Venky's are trying to do with Rovers? They have not done one single thing right. How on earth did this shower end up so called millionaires? It must be very easy to make money in India. The farce still goes on. Singh is obviously crazy and totally out of his depth but Venky's still trust him and think he can walk on water. We are going down to League 1 - no question. But why, oh why, are Venky's so happy to see it happen? There is nothing in it for them, is there? Now it looks as though Givet, Pederson, Dunn and Robinson are going to be sold in January. Another bad move and a downwards step. Do Venky's know or care how stupid they have made themselves and the few supporters (myself included!) that are still left going to matches?

Venkys didn't buy Rovers for the love of the game or club, they bought it to introduce the Venkys brand to a Europe hence the desire to play in the champions league. They anticipated the degree of publicity associated with champions league clubs and that publicity carrying association with the Venkys brand. Get the brand known in Europe and the UK then introduce the chicken shops. Venkys have certainly got the publicity but not how they expected. I think a certain Colonel can sleep soundly at night not fearing competition from this lot. What has transpired is that Venkys have done a Ratner ( anyone remember Gerald Ratner???)

srvp28 wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

peely wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail







.co.uk/sport/footbal







l/article-2255191/Bl







ackburn-Rovers-crisi







s-players-revolt-She







bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

"In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make any money from transfer dealings ". Oh. Per lease , come on - do we really need to spell it out how this agent / club employee bung works ! The whole scenario stinks from top to bottom , it's now just a case of who can make the most before the ship goes t"st up ! And the mug paying fans left in the lurch while greedy players/ agents /senior management move on to pastures new with their pockets filled not to mention foreign bank accounts!

Don't talk to me like I'm a simpleton, I'm well aware of the amount of corruption in some sports. However, seeing as you have no proof of this I don't think you should be making those accusations. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean they're on the take.

It's almost as ridiculous as those people saying that Hendry is only being kept on because he owes money to someone from the Walker Trust. This is the same Walker Trust, I assume, who sold the club to Venky's over two years ago, long before Hendry was hired?

There's far too many people on here who want to believe that the club is rotten to the core just because they don't like the initial influence Jerome Anderson had at the club. These same people will try to convince you that he still has some influence, despite Venky's saying he doesn't.

Think if you have a look at Hendry`s creditors when he went bankrupt , he owed Howard Walker 150 ,000 pounds NOT the Walker trust ,this was a personal loan from Howard Walker to Hendry ,Hendry went bankrupt owing him this money, so as Coar a close friend of Howard Walker simlpy organised the job as a means to pay Walker his money back, obviously it is illegal, to pay back a preferred unsecured creditor it is against the law but it happens all the time, also Coar is a Burnley fan and tried to get on the board there years ago, so try and get your facts right before commenting.

Reread what I wrote and you'll see that I never said Hendry owed the Walkers Trust money, I said there are people on here who say it. Get your facts right before commenting.

BRFC75 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

peely wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail








.co.uk/sport/footbal








l/article-2255191/Bl








ackburn-Rovers-crisi








s-players-revolt-She








bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

"In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make any money from transfer dealings ". Oh. Per lease , come on - do we really need to spell it out how this agent / club employee bung works ! The whole scenario stinks from top to bottom , it's now just a case of who can make the most before the ship goes t"st up ! And the mug paying fans left in the lurch while greedy players/ agents /senior management move on to pastures new with their pockets filled not to mention foreign bank accounts!

Don't talk to me like I'm a simpleton, I'm well aware of the amount of corruption in some sports. However, seeing as you have no proof of this I don't think you should be making those accusations. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean they're on the take.

It's almost as ridiculous as those people saying that Hendry is only being kept on because he owes money to someone from the Walker Trust. This is the same Walker Trust, I assume, who sold the club to Venky's over two years ago, long before Hendry was hired?

There's far too many people on here who want to believe that the club is rotten to the core just because they don't like the initial influence Jerome Anderson had at the club. These same people will try to convince you that he still has some influence, despite Venky's saying he doesn't.

Think if you have a look at Hendry`s creditors when he went bankrupt , he owed Howard Walker 150 ,000 pounds NOT the Walker trust ,this was a personal loan from Howard Walker to Hendry ,Hendry went bankrupt owing him this money, so as Coar a close friend of Howard Walker simlpy organised the job as a means to pay Walker his money back, obviously it is illegal, to pay back a preferred unsecured creditor it is against the law but it happens all the time, also Coar is a Burnley fan and tried to get on the board there years ago, so try and get your facts right before commenting.

Reread what I wrote and you'll see that I never said Hendry owed the Walkers Trust money, I said there are people on here who say it. Get your facts right before commenting.

NO srvp28 YOUR THE ONLY PERSON THAT WROTE HENDRY OWED THE WALKER TRUST, AND ALSO YOU MOCKED THE PEOPLE WHO COMMENTED ON THE CUNNING SCHEME THAT HAS BEEN SET UP TO PAY BACK HOWARD WALKER..

HENDRY OWED/OWES HOWARD WALKER 150,000 POUNDS FOR A PERSONAL LOAN HE GOT FROM H.WALKER A FEW MONTHS BEFORE HENDRY WENT BANKRUPT .

THE PLOT IS THAT HENDRY GOT THE JOB AT ROVERS SO WALKER COULD GET HIS MONEY BACK FROM HENDRY`S WAGES HENCE THE 8,000 POUNDS A WEEK FOR THE ASSISTANT COACH TO THE RESERVE TEAM ,A MASSIVE SALARY TO PAY A MAN DOING HIS JOB SHOULD BE ABOUT 8,000 POUNDS A WEEK, HIGHLY ILLEGAL BUT STILL QUITE AN OBVIOUS ASSUMPTION.

BRFC75 wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

peely wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail









.co.uk/sport/footbal









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bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

"In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make any money from transfer dealings ". Oh. Per lease , come on - do we really need to spell it out how this agent / club employee bung works ! The whole scenario stinks from top to bottom , it's now just a case of who can make the most before the ship goes t"st up ! And the mug paying fans left in the lurch while greedy players/ agents /senior management move on to pastures new with their pockets filled not to mention foreign bank accounts!

Don't talk to me like I'm a simpleton, I'm well aware of the amount of corruption in some sports. However, seeing as you have no proof of this I don't think you should be making those accusations. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean they're on the take.

It's almost as ridiculous as those people saying that Hendry is only being kept on because he owes money to someone from the Walker Trust. This is the same Walker Trust, I assume, who sold the club to Venky's over two years ago, long before Hendry was hired?

There's far too many people on here who want to believe that the club is rotten to the core just because they don't like the initial influence Jerome Anderson had at the club. These same people will try to convince you that he still has some influence, despite Venky's saying he doesn't.

Think if you have a look at Hendry`s creditors when he went bankrupt , he owed Howard Walker 150 ,000 pounds NOT the Walker trust ,this was a personal loan from Howard Walker to Hendry ,Hendry went bankrupt owing him this money, so as Coar a close friend of Howard Walker simlpy organised the job as a means to pay Walker his money back, obviously it is illegal, to pay back a preferred unsecured creditor it is against the law but it happens all the time, also Coar is a Burnley fan and tried to get on the board there years ago, so try and get your facts right before commenting.

Reread what I wrote and you'll see that I never said Hendry owed the Walkers Trust money, I said there are people on here who say it. Get your facts right before commenting.

NO srvp28 YOUR THE ONLY PERSON THAT WROTE HENDRY OWED THE WALKER TRUST, AND ALSO YOU MOCKED THE PEOPLE WHO COMMENTED ON THE CUNNING SCHEME THAT HAS BEEN SET UP TO PAY BACK HOWARD WALKER..

HENDRY OWED/OWES HOWARD WALKER 150,000 POUNDS FOR A PERSONAL LOAN HE GOT FROM H.WALKER A FEW MONTHS BEFORE HENDRY WENT BANKRUPT .

THE PLOT IS THAT HENDRY GOT THE JOB AT ROVERS SO WALKER COULD GET HIS MONEY BACK FROM HENDRY`S WAGES HENCE THE 8,000 POUNDS A WEEK FOR THE ASSISTANT COACH TO THE RESERVE TEAM ,A MASSIVE SALARY TO PAY A MAN DOING HIS JOB SHOULD BE ABOUT 8,000 POUNDS A WEEK, HIGHLY ILLEGAL BUT STILL QUITE AN OBVIOUS ASSUMPTION.

THAT SHOULD READ THE ASSISTANT COACH TO THE RESERVES SHOULD EARN A MAXIMUN OF 800 POUNDS A WEEK. NOT 8,000 A WEEK WHICH IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED SOMEHOW OR OTHER HE MANAGES TO GET ROVERS TO PAY HIM , REMEMBER ULTIMATELY THE SUPPORTERS PAY ALL THE WAGES..

srvp28 wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

peely wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

blueblooded wrote:

edmy wrote:
Read the latest from the Daily Mail We have a contagious disease at Ewood it is called the Venkys. all it touches are doomed.
"THE VENKYS" They sacked Sam, They appointed Kean, They got rid of a fantastic Board and several other prominent office staff. They presided over the removal of several senior players. They appointed Shebby. Who else is there to blame. If the don't sell soon we won't have a club worth jacks**t to sell.
Revealed: From boardroom split to player revolt, the inside story of crisis engulfing Blackburn

Senior players revolt after poor start to season
Derek Shaw wants controversial Shebby Singh out
Club no closer to naming successor to Henning Berg


Read more: http://www.dailymail










.co.uk/sport/footbal










l/article-2255191/Bl










ackburn-Rovers-crisi










s-players-revolt-She










bby-Singh

Seriously?

You call that inside story?

Every man and his dog knows senior players were not impressed with Berg's appointment and the Daily Fail's exclusive already tells you who spun THAT leak.

"Shaw, An experienced administrator.. "

"That was the last straw.." Really Derek? Haven't heard an awful lot from you or that other Anderson stooge up to now. What happened? Singh taking all your power away to continue stealing money from the club via your dodgy agent dealings spoiled your plans?

As Sonny said, Singh may be a lot of things, but stripping the club of its assets isnt one of them. His ambitions are much less sinister - small comfort that it is - but it's becoming very apparent now who the "enemy" he referred to are, and the sooner they're gone the better.

With regard to the Senior players who are not happy, you are getting premiership wages to sit on your butts and to be brutally honest, you are average to downright mediocre in some cases, and if you want away in January, feel free to go. I very much doubt the big clubs are going to be hammering at the door to get most of you, but all the best and thank you for your contribution over the years is all I have to say to you.

HUGHES IN.

In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make money from any transfer dealings exactly?

"In what capacity can Shaw or Agnew make any money from transfer dealings ". Oh. Per lease , come on - do we really need to spell it out how this agent / club employee bung works ! The whole scenario stinks from top to bottom , it's now just a case of who can make the most before the ship goes t"st up ! And the mug paying fans left in the lurch while greedy players/ agents /senior management move on to pastures new with their pockets filled not to mention foreign bank accounts!

Don't talk to me like I'm a simpleton, I'm well aware of the amount of corruption in some sports. However, seeing as you have no proof of this I don't think you should be making those accusations. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean they're on the take.

It's almost as ridiculous as those people saying that Hendry is only being kept on because he owes money to someone from the Walker Trust. This is the same Walker Trust, I assume, who sold the club to Venky's over two years ago, long before Hendry was hired?

There's far too many people on here who want to believe that the club is rotten to the core just because they don't like the initial influence Jerome Anderson had at the club. These same people will try to convince you that he still has some influence, despite Venky's saying he doesn't.

Think if you have a look at Hendry`s creditors when he went bankrupt , he owed Howard Walker 150 ,000 pounds NOT the Walker trust ,this was a personal loan from Howard Walker to Hendry ,Hendry went bankrupt owing him this money, so as Coar a close friend of Howard Walker simlpy organised the job as a means to pay Walker his money back, obviously it is illegal, to pay back a preferred unsecured creditor it is against the law but it happens all the time, also Coar is a Burnley fan and tried to get on the board there years ago, so try and get your facts right before commenting.

Reread what I wrote and you'll see that I never said Hendry owed the Walkers Trust money, I said there are people on here who say it. Get your facts right before commenting.

NO srvp28 YOUR THE ONLY PERSON THAT WROTE HENDRY OWED THE WALKER TRUST, AND ALSO YOU MOCKED THE PEOPLE WHO COMMENTED ON THE CUNNING SCHEME THAT HAS BEEN SET UP TO PAY BACK HOWARD WALKER..

HENDRY OWED/OWES HOWARD WALKER 150,000 POUNDS FOR A PERSONAL LOAN HE GOT FROM H.WALKER A FEW MONTHS BEFORE HENDRY WENT BANKRUPT .

THE PLOT IS THAT HENDRY GOT THE JOB AT ROVERS SO WALKER COULD GET HIS MONEY BACK FROM HENDRY`S WAGES HENCE THE 8,000 POUNDS A WEEK FOR THE ASSISTANT COACH TO THE RESERVE TEAM ,A MASSIVE SALARY TO PAY A MAN DOING HIS JOB SHOULD BE ABOUT 8,000 POUNDS A WEEK, HIGHLY ILLEGAL BUT STILL QUITE AN OBVIOUS ASSUMPTION.

THAT SHOULD READ THE ASSISTANT COACH TO THE RESERVES SHOULD EARN A MAXIMUN OF 800 POUNDS A WEEK. NOT 8,000 A WEEK WHICH IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED SOMEHOW OR OTHER HE MANAGES TO GET ROVERS TO PAY HIM , REMEMBER ULTIMATELY THE SUPPORTERS PAY ALL THE WAGES..

"It's almost as ridiculous as those people saying Hendry is only being kept on because he owes money to someone from the Walker Trust."

That's a reference to what OTHER people have said on here.