Rovers close to appointing new manager (From This Is Lancashire)

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt. He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football. When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters. So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil. In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers. In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting. His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in. I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

Harwoodstblue wrote:
So in the end it's all down to Desai to decide ? The woman who knows nothing about football and as far as I'm aware has been to only one football match. I suspect this is all down to finances in the end and not ability. What a joke....laughable, utterly laughable.

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
So that's it then. We know where we stand. A cheapo manager and yes man to boot. What a bloody shower. Gates going down again, and oblivion round the corner...

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
So that's it then. We know where we stand. A cheapo manager and yes man to boot. What a bloody shower. Gates going down again, and oblivion round the corner...

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

BlueSkies wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
So that's it then. We know where we stand. A cheapo manager and yes man to boot. What a bloody shower. Gates going down again, and oblivion round the corner...

How can you call him a 'yes man' at this stage? Ridiculous.

speedie_rovers_legen
d wrote:
Well if it is Berg let's all get behind the guy and give him a chance, constant moaning is going to get you nowhere, he was a defender so he should get that area right , and he is a pretty pleasant guy.

Dark Star wrote:
What a joke is this what they call a top class manager I don't think so cheap is the word mid table if lucky
Championship for the next two seasons till we start to look for the next manager just count me out.

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

BlueSkies wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
So that's it then. We know where we stand. A cheapo manager and yes man to boot. What a bloody shower. Gates going down again, and oblivion round the corner...

How can you call him a 'yes man' at this stage? Ridiculous.

He hasn't got the background to answer back. Shebbys puppet, and he had better get a map for Pune, he'll need it.

Brfc24138931 wrote:
Normal practice has resumed then. Clueless and going nowhere with a unexperienced English manager. How many ex players who played then managed the club and done well????????????

Dark Star wrote:
The photo at the top of the page looks like Steve kean

dangerous dave wrote:
Well there we go, a so called Manager on the cheap and just a 'yes' man for Shabby Shabby and continued employment for the embarrassing Hendry - all the top names that have applied so they say just a load of lies - Shaw Agnew and Singh treating us like idiots - it looks like we are going to get a third rate manager but I suppose we are a third rate club under this regime - absolutely pathetic and a disgrace!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK AND HENDRY

Dark Star wrote:
What a joke is this what they call a top class manager I don't think so cheap is the word mid table if lucky Championship for the next two seasons till we start to look for the next manager just count me out.

alfa111 wrote:
Berg set to sign contract today norway tv2 good luck henning your going to need it with this shower of sheet

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

Dark Star wrote:
20,000 next home game sorry more like 2,000

Brunzig wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

I also wouldnt mind Berg, fans saying "he was sacked from his last job" are a joke! Mark Hughes was sacked from City and soon QPR but I bet you'd have him back as manager!

If Berg is appointed we should get behind him 100%

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

BlueSkies wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
So that's it then. We know where we stand. A cheapo manager and yes man to boot. What a bloody shower. Gates going down again, and oblivion round the corner...

How can you call him a 'yes man' at this stage? Ridiculous.

MatthewCA wrote:
Mardona is better - he keep the BOSS sute and Eric Black will talk, control the club and players. Only formica will enjoy in the team as a transelater

Is the FANS know about "Berg" as a Manager ?????????

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season.

Sounds perfect for you boys.

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MxMave wrote:
Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining. Berg is to be appointed because: A) He is cheap B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe. To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

Ribby Hall Claret wrote:
Don't get all excited and start counting your chicken yet. You've not got the mighty Berg yet. How do you pick them Shebby? Good choice though pal.

Dark Star wrote:
The photo at the top of the page looks like Steve kean

roverfoxy wrote:

Ribby Hall Claret wrote:
Don't get all excited and start counting your chicken yet. You've not got the mighty Berg yet. How do you pick them Shebby? Good choice though pal.

I think theres been more posts on here from our six fingered friends than when their own manager was appointed!!!

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season.

Sounds perfect for you boys.

Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

srvp28 wrote:

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season.

Sounds perfect for you boys.

Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

You're the one missing the point. They lost seven games because the club sold all his best players. Even then he still had the backing of the board until a new investor promised to plough money into the club as long as Berg was sacked.

It was all there in black & white for you to read.

BlueSkies wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

BlueSkies wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote: So that's it then. We know where we stand. A cheapo manager and yes man to boot. What a bloody shower. Gates going down again, and oblivion round the corner...

How can you call him a 'yes man' at this stage? Ridiculous.

He hasn't got the background to answer back. Shebbys puppet, and he had better get a map for Pune, he'll need it.

Jerk.

Tatts wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt. He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football. When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters. So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil. In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers. In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting. His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in. I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

Interesting insight but it still looks to me like Shabby Singh is looking after his own position by giving the job to someone who he can keep in his pocket.

ronnie clayton wrote:

rovertillidie wrote:

MxMave wrote: Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining. Berg is to be appointed because: A) He is cheap B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe. To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

Moan moan moan......give the bloke a chance....you may be right but maybe just maybe he could be a success, cup half empty or half full springs to mind. There are no guarantees with any appointment, I just wonder what you would have done, no doubt cleared the decks paid millions in compensation, appointed Sir Alex and all his coaching staff. Get in the real world. So you know A)his salary, B)you seem to have personal knowledge of Henning Berg and his personality and C)why should Black not keep his job what has he done that is so wrong ???? and personally I don't see what is wrong with Hendry that has served our club so very well in the past. So we are heading for oblivion because we appoint Henning Berg another who served us so very well for many years and who worked under one of the most successful managers in Sir Alex...get a grip ....oh and stay away from Ewood we need full support now not doom and gloom merchants!

You don`t see what is wrong with Hendry ? so its O.K. as far as you are concerned to be a liar, swindler and woman beater , a Rovers supporters backstabber ? Hendry was saying the majority of the Rovers fans are behind Kean , when there was a massive boycott going on at the time, purely so Hendry would be installed as "defensive coach" a few weeks later , a man who said in succession Kean ticks all the right boxes ,then a few weeks later Black ticks all the right boxes . Do you not think its about time we had a clearout of these people and bought in people with decency/integrity/ho nesty and get the people like Hendry that don`t understand the difference between a lie and the truth OUT !

John 1949 wrote:
If it is Berg, hopefully he will have the same success rate as at the end at Lillestrom (7 defeats in the last 8 games).

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote: Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt. He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football. When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters. So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil. In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers. In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting. His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in. I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season. Sounds perfect for you boys. Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

MxMave wrote:
Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining.

Berg is to be appointed because:
A) He is cheap
B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys
C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs

From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe.

To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

Kermit The Frog wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote: Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt. He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football. When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters. So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil. In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers. In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting. His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in. I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season. Sounds perfect for you boys. Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

You're the one missing the point. They lost seven games because the club sold all his best players. Even then he still had the backing of the board until a new investor promised to plough money into the club as long as Berg was sacked. It was all there in black & white for you to read.

Yeah yeah yeah - it was all the board's fault, not the manager's. Funny that it wasn't the board's fault when Blackburn plummeted towards the relegation trapdoor into the Championship was it? That was all Steve Kean's fault? Poor Blackburn fans, deluded doesn't even cover it - ha ha ha

srvp28 wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining.

Berg is to be appointed because:
A) He is cheap
B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys
C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs

From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe.

To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

And you know this how exactly? It's comments like this that give all of us Rovers fans a bad name. Let's analyse what you've said shall we?

"A) He is cheap."

So we won't have to pay compensation to another team, good. That'll leave more money to put towards the running of the club. I dare say he'll still be on a decent wage but hopefully they've learned their lessons from last time. If he's as cheap as you think he is then it'll be easier to sack him should it not work out.

"B) He won't question Shebby/Venky's."

Seeing as how one would be his direct superior and the others his boss, I wouldn't expect him to be anti-establishment, it wouldn't be good for his job security. That would also be the case if it was Redknapp, Holloway, Shearer or Solskjær. However, Berg was a far more successful player than Kean so I'd like to think that his ideas would be given more consideration than his predecessors.

"C) He won't bring his own staff so Black, Hendry, etc can keep their jobs."

You can't possibly know whether or not he'd bring in his own backroom staff so what you're saying is just conjecture. I understand the ill feeling towards Hendry but what exactly has Black done, other than try to put food on the table?

Everyone's entitled to their opinion but yours, and that of 'Is Eckersley playing' is nonsense. The dynamic of the club isn't going to be any different regardless of who gets the job. If Holloway is appointed he'll be in exactly the same position as Berg.

Seriously, if they were remaking Dad's Army I'd ask you both to consider auditioning for the role of Private Frazer... "we're doomed!"

Kermit The Frog wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season.

Sounds perfect for you boys.

Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

You're the one missing the point. They lost seven games because the club sold all his best players. Even then he still had the backing of the board until a new investor promised to plough money into the club as long as Berg was sacked.

It was all there in black & white for you to read.

Yeah yeah yeah - it was all the board's fault, not the manager's.

Funny that it wasn't the board's fault when Blackburn plummeted towards the relegation trapdoor into the Championship was it? That was all Steve Kean's fault?

Poor Blackburn fans, deluded doesn't even cover it - ha ha ha

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

StLedge wrote:

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote: Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt. He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football. When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters. So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil. In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers. In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting. His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in. I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season. Sounds perfect for you boys. Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

Laughing at Blackburn Rovers since 1875?? Laughing at what exactly? Laughing at the difference in the trophy haul; currently standing at Blackburn 31 and Burnley 10!? Blackburn Rovers being one of 2 and the only club now in existence to have won the F.A Cup 3 times in a row? Blackburn Rovers being a founder member of both the football league AND the Premier League; Burnley being a founder member of the Football League and then twinned with Norfolk? Blackburn Rovers being one of only 5 clubs to have won the premier league, Burnley lucky to have tasted it once? Or is it that Burnley’s first kit was an imaginative Blue and White halves, albeit vertical, not sure where the idea for that came from….. Or is it the last 34 years you find particularly funny??

BRFCNOR wrote:
I can assure you that Berg is not a yes-man. That was the reason why he got sacked at Lillestrøm.

One other thing, he has been very critical on Norwegian TV about Venkys, and have made them the main reason to "der untergang". Off course, they are the owners, but anyway.

I also think Holloway would be the safest option, but lets get behind the one who gets the job!

Rovers 1495 wrote:

Brunzig wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

I also wouldnt mind Berg, fans saying "he was sacked from his last job" are a joke! Mark Hughes was sacked from City and soon QPR but I bet you'd have him back as manager!

If Berg is appointed we should get behind him 100%

It's a question of reputations. Players would want to come to clubs with Sparky in charge ... do you think we could say the same about Berg ?

jonboy03 wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

ROVERFOXY Really helpful back story - made me feel a bit better about the impending HB appointment but can't help still feeling underwhelmed. Is this the appointment that is going to unite a fragmented fan base and a group of poorly motivated, underachieving footballers? Sadly, I think not and as a result, I fear the worst.

ronnie clayton wrote:

rovertillidie wrote:

ronnie clayton wrote:

rovertillidie wrote:

MxMave wrote: Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining. Berg is to be appointed because: A) He is cheap B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe. To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

Moan moan moan......give the bloke a chance....you may be right but maybe just maybe he could be a success, cup half empty or half full springs to mind. There are no guarantees with any appointment, I just wonder what you would have done, no doubt cleared the decks paid millions in compensation, appointed Sir Alex and all his coaching staff. Get in the real world. So you know A)his salary, B)you seem to have personal knowledge of Henning Berg and his personality and C)why should Black not keep his job what has he done that is so wrong ???? and personally I don't see what is wrong with Hendry that has served our club so very well in the past. So we are heading for oblivion because we appoint Henning Berg another who served us so very well for many years and who worked under one of the most successful managers in Sir Alex...get a grip ....oh and stay away from Ewood we need full support now not doom and gloom merchants!

You don`t see what is wrong with Hendry ? so its O.K. as far as you are concerned to be a liar, swindler and woman beater , a Rovers supporters backstabber ? Hendry was saying the majority of the Rovers fans are behind Kean , when there was a massive boycott going on at the time, purely so Hendry would be installed as "defensive coach" a few weeks later , a man who said in succession Kean ticks all the right boxes ,then a few weeks later Black ticks all the right boxes . Do you not think its about time we had a clearout of these people and bought in people with decency/integrity/ho nesty and get the people like Hendry that don`t understand the difference between a lie and the truth OUT !

Obviously you dont like Hendry and he has made many mistakes in his personal life, and I can understand your sentiments in this regard.

My judgement is clouded by my recollection of a superb servant to BRFC and not only the championship winning side but also his first period with the club when he wore his heart on his sleeve. He brought one of the highlights of my life by helping BRFC get to the top of English football.

I did hesitate before when I included Hendry in my erlier post but the rest and Black in particular I stand by.

Its time to support and stand together and we can have an enjoyable season with success at the end of it.

Yeah most people think the sportsman carries the same attibutes onto their personal lives ,but sadly that is not the case , but if you want to see how a sportsmans image can blind peoples opinions , remember when OJ Simpson was in the dock for murder ,he had the glove ,the blood on the glove ,the weapon, the motive, he was caught as a basically escaping from the scene of the crime , but he got away with it because people wanted to believe his sports image ,not the image of what he is a murderer , and that`s what happened .
There is overwhelming proof for all to see of Hendry` dishonest behaviour , if he was a employee for a large company he would have been sacked ,but again a footballer can do dishonest things normal decent folk would not do ,and everyone shrugs it off as you seem to do.

FCBurnley wrote:
Henning Chicken Berger and Fries please.

NO NAY NEVER wrote:
Henning Berg, if you are the new Rovers manager the fans will get behind you and the team I am sure of that. The majority of so called fans who seem to have watched too much x-files and just spout negative rubbish on here are either dingles or deluded. Berg won the Premiership title with us, he won it with UTD, he won promotion with us and won the Worthington cup with us that alone in terms of experience is up their with the best, ok, it does not say that he will be a success but also he has history with us, knows the area and the club. Berg if it is you welcome back to Blackburn and all the very best!!

FCBurnley wrote:
Henning Chicken Berger and Fries please.

makaveli96 wrote:
He left us to go Man United!

He isnt PURE anymore!

srvp28 wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining.

Berg is to be appointed because:
A) He is cheap
B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys
C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs

From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe.

To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

And you know this how exactly? It's comments like this that give all of us Rovers fans a bad name. Let's analyse what you've said shall we?

"A) He is cheap."

So we won't have to pay compensation to another team, good. That'll leave more money to put towards the running of the club. I dare say he'll still be on a decent wage but hopefully they've learned their lessons from last time. If he's as cheap as you think he is then it'll be easier to sack him should it not work out.

"B) He won't question Shebby/Venky's."

Seeing as how one would be his direct superior and the others his boss, I wouldn't expect him to be anti-establishment, it wouldn't be good for his job security. That would also be the case if it was Redknapp, Holloway, Shearer or Solskjær. However, Berg was a far more successful player than Kean so I'd like to think that his ideas would be given more consideration than his predecessors.

"C) He won't bring his own staff so Black, Hendry, etc can keep their jobs."

You can't possibly know whether or not he'd bring in his own backroom staff so what you're saying is just conjecture. I understand the ill feeling towards Hendry but what exactly has Black done, other than try to put food on the table?

Everyone's entitled to their opinion but yours, and that of 'Is Eckersley playing' is nonsense. The dynamic of the club isn't going to be any different regardless of who gets the job. If Holloway is appointed he'll be in exactly the same position as Berg.

Seriously, if they were remaking Dad's Army I'd ask you both to consider auditioning for the role of Private Frazer... "we're doomed!"

YarkshahRover wrote:

Dark Star wrote: The photo at the top of the page looks like Steve kean

Looks more like Brad Friegel to me.

StLedge wrote:

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote: Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt. He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football. When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters. So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil. In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers. In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting. His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in. I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season. Sounds perfect for you boys. Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

Laughing at Blackburn Rovers since 1875??

Laughing at what exactly?

Laughing at the difference in the trophy haul; currently standing at Blackburn 31 and Burnley 10!?

Blackburn Rovers being one of 2 and the only club now in existence to have won the F.A Cup 3 times in a row?

Blackburn Rovers being a founder member of both the football league AND the Premier League; Burnley being a founder member of the Football League and then twinned with Norfolk?

Blackburn Rovers being one of only 5 clubs to have won the premier league, Burnley lucky to have tasted it once?

Or is it that Burnley’s first kit was an imaginative Blue and White halves, albeit vertical, not sure where the idea for that came from…..

Or is it the last 34 years you find particularly funny??

MxMave wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining.

Berg is to be appointed because:
A) He is cheap
B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys
C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs

From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe.

To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

And you know this how exactly? It's comments like this that give all of us Rovers fans a bad name. Let's analyse what you've said shall we?

"A) He is cheap."

So we won't have to pay compensation to another team, good. That'll leave more money to put towards the running of the club. I dare say he'll still be on a decent wage but hopefully they've learned their lessons from last time. If he's as cheap as you think he is then it'll be easier to sack him should it not work out.

"B) He won't question Shebby/Venky's."

Seeing as how one would be his direct superior and the others his boss, I wouldn't expect him to be anti-establishment, it wouldn't be good for his job security. That would also be the case if it was Redknapp, Holloway, Shearer or Solskjær. However, Berg was a far more successful player than Kean so I'd like to think that his ideas would be given more consideration than his predecessors.

"C) He won't bring his own staff so Black, Hendry, etc can keep their jobs."

You can't possibly know whether or not he'd bring in his own backroom staff so what you're saying is just conjecture. I understand the ill feeling towards Hendry but what exactly has Black done, other than try to put food on the table?

Everyone's entitled to their opinion but yours, and that of 'Is Eckersley playing' is nonsense. The dynamic of the club isn't going to be any different regardless of who gets the job. If Holloway is appointed he'll be in exactly the same position as Berg.

Seriously, if they were remaking Dad's Army I'd ask you both to consider auditioning for the role of Private Frazer... "we're doomed!"

It's unbelivable how naive some Rovers fans are.
Have you not been to the games for the last 2 years?
Have you not read the news for the last 2 years?

Do you honestly think Kean picked the team? Do you honestly think Kean picked his backroom staff? Do you honestly think any other club would want a manager/pundit with such little experience? Do you honestly think Shebby will sit there and let Berg buy his own players, pick his own team and do his own contract extensions?

Do you think EVERYTHING has changed now? That Venky's and Shebby have all of a sudden grown up and become experienced in thier positions to the extent at which they know what thier doing? Did you forget the year and a half in which Venkys ignored the fans?

Theres being positive and being ignorant. If you honestly think that everything will change now then you will be sorely dissapointed soon enough. If you haven't spotted the patterns in which Venkys are trying to run the club by now then there really is no hope. The manager is a facade and the appointment of someone like Holloway or Redknapp would have done a lot to turn the tide of opinion that BRFC has not been run by a football manager for quite some time now. All this decision does is confirm the beliefs of the observant fans that Venkys require a facade to go about thier business.

Dukes wrote:
what a shamble MRS DESAI has not got a clue only shaw saw what was needed.Berg will not bring anything to the club it not will be long before the protest start again.

VENKYS DONT APPOINT BERG OR RISK A RIOT

Cyprusblue wrote:
Whoever get's the job deserves our support. The fact that we are lumbered with Shabby, Hendry, Shaw etc is NOT the new managers fault. If it is Henning then good luck to him and lets all get behind him. Yes the club is a joke. Yes our global adviser is not much more than an ex pub footballer and TV gobshite, yes the infastructure of the club has been wrecked by the half witted half wits frome Pune (where would they have got in life without daddy setting them up). No matter what the state of our club is it is not the fault of the new manager so please,please,please lets get behind him. We are no longer a well run, stable and respected premier league club that could attract the managers from the top table. We are unfortunately a badly runchampionship side in dissaray. We quite rightly hate the destruction that has been wreaked upon our club. We despair at the idiots who have been appointed to run the club by the even bigger idiots in pune. I think it's fair to say that we won't be at peace till the collection of half wits referrred to previously have gone from our beloved club. At least the ultimate scumbag Kean has gone. One down and a few more to go yet. Henning Berg however has simply applied for a job at his former club where he is respected and remembered fondly. If he is appointed the we must all get behind him and support bioth him and the team. Nothing else is good enough. We the fans protested long and hard against kean for very good reason. most, if not all of us know without doubt that Kean needed to be removed and we the fans took the only action we could to remove him. We did it for the good of our club. If we carry on to protest after a new manager has been appointed then we are quite rightly open to critisism that we are damaging our club even further. We wiil we be open to derision and we will deserve it. I will welcome the new manager and offer 100% support. The mess we are in is not of his making. Good luck Henning. I am right behind you and hope that i speak for all the other Rovers faithful past and present. Good luck!!!!!!!! COYB 33yrs

madrover wrote:
WELL DONE TO THEM WHO HAVE POSTED POSITIVE COMMENTS.THE REST OF YOU F**K OFF WE DONT NEED YOUR NEGATIVE CRAP AT EWOOD. GOOD LUCK HENNING IF ITS YOU AND THANKS ERIC FOR KEEING US IN TOUCHING DISTANCE

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
When Berg played for Rovers I was his biggest fan. He came across as a very intelligent man, clean living and dedicated. My beef with his appointment is simple. He hasn't the experience required for the task in hand.We have seen at our club 'big' footballers come to manage and fail miserably The difference this time is more acute. Next season onwards, at least £60 million is on offer for each prem. club. All clubs getting relegated after that will have ample funds to ensure a quick return. Rovers would never be able to compete. Gates would inevitably decline. All this wouldn't be Bergs fault. You can't blame him for applying for the job. He is being appointed as a cheap option. If the Venkys had any intention of going for it then common sense would tell y ou they would have to pay bigger wages than Berg will command. .

Hendog wrote:
Who in the job market would people be happy with?

Harry - Too expensive, spends too much, wouldnt come anyway
Holloway - Good manager, difficult conractual terms with regards sell on fees, hasnt said he wants the job, relatively unsuccessful in terms of sustained success. Built a good club system, still got relegated.
Mick McCarthy - Promotions with Sunderland and Wolves, relegated with both. Although Sunderland relegation wasnt his fault. Sacked from both clubs. No reason why he shouldnt publicly state his interest. Still hasnt.
Mark Hughes - Left Rovers, joined City with almost unlimited funds was subsequently sacked, joined Fulham. Led Hodgsons decent team to a mediocre league position, left after 11 months of joining. Joined QPR and isnt exactly setting the world alight.

All other Championship Managers and below will be deemed not good enough.
All young managers will be deemed not experienced enough.
Any highly thought of first team coach will be exactly the same as Steve Kean
For some reason, somebody who has spent a good number of years clearly with an ambition to coach whilst playing under Alex Ferguson however, is worse than all of the above, not to mention if foxyrover's points are true, his managerial carerr is quite promising.

Oh and finally, he looks as though he at least wants the job!

ElleBeeee wrote:
I only got half way down the comments and couldn't read any more, i am so embarrassed to be a rovers fan sometimes. It looks pretty much certain that Berg is going to be the manager, and good luck to him i say, but why be so down on it already before we have even kicked a ball under his leadership? Give the guy a chance for gods sake.

This is what we have been dealt and we should get behind the team and support them, cross the bridges when the need crossing!!

If i remember rightly when he rejoined us in 2000 it was just before we played Burnley in December at Turf, and then went on to be promoted later that season. Lets hope its a good omen!!!

noddymcleod wrote:
The final decision will be taken by Ms Desai.
Just these few words sum up why I and thousands of loyal Rovers have not renewed our season tickets.

1952 rover wrote:
Boy has theat Shebby taken us for fool's. Thats it my Ewood day,s are over.
Thanks very much Shebby

MxMave wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining.

Berg is to be appointed because:
A) He is cheap
B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys
C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs

From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe.

To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

And you know this how exactly? It's comments like this that give all of us Rovers fans a bad name. Let's analyse what you've said shall we?

"A) He is cheap."

So we won't have to pay compensation to another team, good. That'll leave more money to put towards the running of the club. I dare say he'll still be on a decent wage but hopefully they've learned their lessons from last time. If he's as cheap as you think he is then it'll be easier to sack him should it not work out.

"B) He won't question Shebby/Venky's."

Seeing as how one would be his direct superior and the others his boss, I wouldn't expect him to be anti-establishment, it wouldn't be good for his job security. That would also be the case if it was Redknapp, Holloway, Shearer or Solskjær. However, Berg was a far more successful player than Kean so I'd like to think that his ideas would be given more consideration than his predecessors.

"C) He won't bring his own staff so Black, Hendry, etc can keep their jobs."

You can't possibly know whether or not he'd bring in his own backroom staff so what you're saying is just conjecture. I understand the ill feeling towards Hendry but what exactly has Black done, other than try to put food on the table?

Everyone's entitled to their opinion but yours, and that of 'Is Eckersley playing' is nonsense. The dynamic of the club isn't going to be any different regardless of who gets the job. If Holloway is appointed he'll be in exactly the same position as Berg.

Seriously, if they were remaking Dad's Army I'd ask you both to consider auditioning for the role of Private Frazer... "we're doomed!"

It's unbelivable how naive some Rovers fans are.
Have you not been to the games for the last 2 years?
Have you not read the news for the last 2 years?

Do you honestly think Kean picked the team? Do you honestly think Kean picked his backroom staff? Do you honestly think any other club would want a manager/pundit with such little experience? Do you honestly think Shebby will sit there and let Berg buy his own players, pick his own team and do his own contract extensions?

Do you think EVERYTHING has changed now? That Venky's and Shebby have all of a sudden grown up and become experienced in thier positions to the extent at which they know what thier doing? Did you forget the year and a half in which Venkys ignored the fans?

Theres being positive and being ignorant. If you honestly think that everything will change now then you will be sorely dissapointed soon enough. If you haven't spotted the patterns in which Venkys are trying to run the club by now then there really is no hope. The manager is a facade and the appointment of someone like Holloway or Redknapp would have done a lot to turn the tide of opinion that BRFC has not been run by a football manager for quite some time now. All this decision does is confirm the beliefs of the observant fans that Venkys require a facade to go about thier business.

Reg Rover wrote:
IT’S MCLEISH
Reg now expects Blackburn Rovers to appoint ex- Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Rangers and Scotland manager Alex McLeish (pic above) to the Ewood hot seat this week.
Eric Black will be retained as McLeish’s assistant.
It makes sense for the cash conscious Venky’s. No compensation to pay for the unemployed and available McLeish. Or to pay to a sacked Eric Black.
Only Shebby Singh stands in the way of the appointment, which would lead to Managing Director Derek Shaw quitting the club as the gulf between the two men grows.
Singh, who is looking for “the next big thing”. Wants to interview the Birmingham City Management team of 40 year old Lee Clarke, Liverpool and England legend Terry McDermott and former Blackburn Rovers Captain and England coach Derek Frazackerley.It is thought the trio would welcome a move away from troubled Birmingham City.
Shebby (open mouth then engage brain) Singh still holds hope of persuading Spurs to part with Tim Sherwood.
I however expect Shaw to win the day and appoint McLeish and retain the popular Eric Black.
Reg
www.regoftherovers.c

o.uk

tugay 4 ever wrote:
The constant moaners will be the ruination of our club. Give the bloke a chance ..... Don't tell me I am being conned......I am joining the fight to save our club and that means getting right behind Berg!

I have kept out of Ewood since last season, apart from the Wolves game and said I would return if the new manager has nothing to do with Kentaro......he hasn't ......come on Henning and the boys.
This is probably the last chance to save the reputation of our club and our saeson. .....lets stop moaning and start supporting. See you at the next home game!

rovertillidie wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining. Berg is to be appointed because: A) He is cheap B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe. To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

Moan moan moan......give the bloke a chance....you may be right but maybe just maybe he could be a success, cup half empty or half full springs to mind.

There are no guarantees with any appointment, I just wonder what you would have done, no doubt cleared the decks paid millions in compensation, appointed Sir Alex and all his coaching staff. Get in the real world.

So you know A)his salary, B)you seem to have personal knowledge of Henning Berg and his personality and C)why should Black not keep his job what has he done that is so wrong ???? and personally I don't see what is wrong with Hendry that has served our club so very well in the past.

So we are heading for oblivion because we appoint Henning Berg another who served us so very well for many years and who worked under one of the most successful managers in Sir Alex...get a grip ....oh and stay away from Ewood we need full support now not doom and gloom merchants!

madrover wrote:
WELL DONE TO THEM WHO HAVE POSTED POSITIVE COMMENTS.THE REST OF YOU F**K OFF WE DONT NEED YOUR NEGATIVE CRAP AT EWOOD. GOOD LUCK HENNING IF ITS YOU AND THANKS ERIC FOR KEEING US IN TOUCHING DISTANCE

StLedge wrote:

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote: Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt. He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football. When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters. So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil. In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers. In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting. His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in. I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season. Sounds perfect for you boys. Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

Laughing at Blackburn Rovers since 1875??

Laughing at what exactly?

Laughing at the difference in the trophy haul; currently standing at Blackburn 31 and Burnley 10!?

Blackburn Rovers being one of 2 and the only club now in existence to have won the F.A Cup 3 times in a row?

Blackburn Rovers being a founder member of both the football league AND the Premier League; Burnley being a founder member of the Football League and then twinned with Norfolk?

Blackburn Rovers being one of only 5 clubs to have won the premier league, Burnley lucky to have tasted it once?

Or is it that Burnley’s first kit was an imaginative Blue and White halves, albeit vertical, not sure where the idea for that came from…..

Or is it the last 34 years you find particularly funny??

MxMave wrote:
BTW what happened to Schuster and Clemente? Coaches with massive experience at the highest level, put thier names in the hat and totally ignored by Shebby & Venkys?

Wonder why? Could it be something to do with?
A) They know how a club should be run
B) They would command a decent wage
C) They would want to bring thier own people in?

Nahh, nahhh im just a conspiracy theorist, theres no logic to that whatsoever is there happy clappers?

RUinsane wrote:

1952 rover wrote:
Boy has theat Shebby taken us for fool's. Thats it my Ewood day,s are over.
Thanks very much Shebby

Bye

Kermit The Frog wrote:

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

All very interesting but missing one salient point - Berg was sacked after Lillestrom had one draw and SEVEN defeats in their opening eight games of last season and THAT is why he was sacked, it was their worst EVER start to a season.

Sounds perfect for you boys.

Blackburn Rovers - making Burnley fans laugh since 1875

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

RUinsane wrote:

MxMave wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

MxMave wrote: Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining. Berg is to be appointed because: A) He is cheap B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe. To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

And you know this how exactly? It's comments like this that give all of us Rovers fans a bad name. Let's analyse what you've said shall we? "A) He is cheap." So we won't have to pay compensation to another team, good. That'll leave more money to put towards the running of the club. I dare say he'll still be on a decent wage but hopefully they've learned their lessons from last time. If he's as cheap as you think he is then it'll be easier to sack him should it not work out. "B) He won't question Shebby/Venky's." Seeing as how one would be his direct superior and the others his boss, I wouldn't expect him to be anti-establishment, it wouldn't be good for his job security. That would also be the case if it was Redknapp, Holloway, Shearer or Solskjær. However, Berg was a far more successful player than Kean so I'd like to think that his ideas would be given more consideration than his predecessors. "C) He won't bring his own staff so Black, Hendry, etc can keep their jobs." You can't possibly know whether or not he'd bring in his own backroom staff so what you're saying is just conjecture. I understand the ill feeling towards Hendry but what exactly has Black done, other than try to put food on the table? Everyone's entitled to their opinion but yours, and that of 'Is Eckersley playing' is nonsense. The dynamic of the club isn't going to be any different regardless of who gets the job. If Holloway is appointed he'll be in exactly the same position as Berg. Seriously, if they were remaking Dad's Army I'd ask you both to consider auditioning for the role of Private Frazer... "we're doomed!"

It's unbelivable how naive some Rovers fans are. Have you not been to the games for the last 2 years? Have you not read the news for the last 2 years? Do you honestly think Kean picked the team? Do you honestly think Kean picked his backroom staff? Do you honestly think any other club would want a manager/pundit with such little experience? Do you honestly think Shebby will sit there and let Berg buy his own players, pick his own team and do his own contract extensions? Do you think EVERYTHING has changed now? That Venky's and Shebby have all of a sudden grown up and become experienced in thier positions to the extent at which they know what thier doing? Did you forget the year and a half in which Venkys ignored the fans? Theres being positive and being ignorant. If you honestly think that everything will change now then you will be sorely dissapointed soon enough. If you haven't spotted the patterns in which Venkys are trying to run the club by now then there really is no hope. The manager is a facade and the appointment of someone like Holloway or Redknapp would have done a lot to turn the tide of opinion that BRFC has not been run by a football manager for quite some time now. All this decision does is confirm the beliefs of the observant fans that Venkys require a facade to go about thier business.

Then fook off then, simple as, if you don't like it, go away and talk yer sheite with yer dingle chums at t turd. Bye, and shut the door on yer way out, we're over you already. Moving on swiftly :0)

MxMave wrote:

rovertillidie wrote:

MxMave wrote: Wow, its unbelievable how Rovers fans can get peed on and try to convince themselves thats its raining. Berg is to be appointed because: A) He is cheap B) He wont question Shebby/Venkys C) He wont bring his own staff in so Black, Hendry etc can keep thier jobs From here on in Rovers fans, we shall fall into oblivion. The hope of promotion has disintegrated, the parachute money will get squandered and we will find ourselves in the same situation as before where an inept, relatively inexperienced manager is sticking to his job because Venkys lack the conviction to weild the axe. To those who think Berg is the next great thing.... you are alone in your opinions since no other club has taken him up and he has been forced into punditry. We can live in hope but in the end reality will come crashing down.

Moan moan moan......give the bloke a chance....you may be right but maybe just maybe he could be a success, cup half empty or half full springs to mind. There are no guarantees with any appointment, I just wonder what you would have done, no doubt cleared the decks paid millions in compensation, appointed Sir Alex and all his coaching staff. Get in the real world. So you know A)his salary, B)you seem to have personal knowledge of Henning Berg and his personality and C)why should Black not keep his job what has he done that is so wrong ???? and personally I don't see what is wrong with Hendry that has served our club so very well in the past. So we are heading for oblivion because we appoint Henning Berg another who served us so very well for many years and who worked under one of the most successful managers in Sir Alex...get a grip ....oh and stay away from Ewood we need full support now not doom and gloom merchants!

OK. A) Would you pay an out of work manager who cant get a job elsewhere a fat sum? If you would your an idiot. B) He has no idea about the running of a club or what it takes to be a proper manager, norwegian teams count for nothing, you may aswell manage in the unibond league. How will he assert his position with no prior knowledge? If you think he would, once again, you are an idiot. C) Whats wrong with the current backroom staff? Apart from the fact thier handpicked by Venkys and 90% of them have agents who are SEM or Kentaro. Apart from the fact that we got relegated with those staff in place after sacking a team of excellent staff. And your mention that he "WORKED UNDER FERGIE" which seems to be the only line of hope for most fans. How does working at Man United make you a great manager? I would love to spend a day there and become untouchable in the football world like everyone else seems to do. Are you saying Beckham, Cantona and Ronaldo would be a font of managerial knowledge? At the end of the day mate, you can dream to your hearts content, get that wallet open, let venkys pick through your paycheque and clap and sing the whole while. The whole reason Shebby thought 'ill appoint an old player' is because of idiots like you who have no idea about football and think that because someone is an ex player then theyll be a fantastic manager and understand the club 15 years on. A wise man once told me, dream on, dream on, dream until a dream come trueeeee, dream until a dream come true....

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

Reg Rover wrote:
REDKNAPP RED HERRING. ITS HENNING BERG. Harry Redknapp’s agent through a spanner in the works on Monday, by leaking the news Redknapp would be interested in the Blackburn Rovers manager’s job. The press fell for it' hook line and sinker', in Tuesdays Daily Mail their sports page led with the story. The Lancashire Telegraph had the story plastered all over their Tueday’s edition and on bill boards throughout Lancashire. All National Newspapers and Sky TV Sports News carried the story. Talk Sport radio even had Glenn Mullan from the Blackburn Rovers action group to air his opinion on how Rovers fans will greet the news that Redknapp was to become their new manager. It was all a spoof, and our National Newspapers and Media fell for it 'hook line and sinker'. Redknapp’s agent, anxious to keep his clients name at the forefront, latched onto the Rovers job as being a possible creditable destination for Redknapp. Especially given the unpredictability of the Rovers owners. Redknapp’s agent was anxious that Harry should not be forgotten and a nudge in the direction of those Premiership clubs at the foot of the table was needed. QPR, SOUTHAMPTON, READING, and ASTON VILLA were put on alert that Harry would not be available forever. The story had the desired effect and has Redknapp back in the forefront for the next Premiership vacancy that comes along. Redknapp was never to come to Blackburn. So embarrassed was Redknapp at the media frenzy, the Daily Mail even had him at Ewood Park having an interview whilst he was at home in Bournemouth. That Redknapp, to clear the air was interviewed on Talk Sport at 4pm on Tuesday afternoon, whilst praising Blackburn as being a good club with good fans he said “it isn’t for me and don’t know where the story has come from”. YES YOU DO HARRY, it came from your agent and Blackburn Rovers were the victims of the hype. Former Rover Henning Berg (pic above) was the one being interviewed, and he passed with flying colours. Impressing both Managing Director Derek Shaw and Global Advisor Shebby Singh. Henning Berg has been offered the job and it is his to refuse. Alex McLeish remains on the Rovers shortlist along with Ian Holloway / Blackpool and Lee Clark / Birmingham, although neither of their clubs has been approached – unbelievable. Care taker Manager Eric Black remains a possibility should Berg turn down the Rovers. Alan Shearer remains an outsider. One thing is for sure it won’t be Redknapp. Reg. www.regoftherovers.c o.uk

FCBurnley wrote:
Henning Chicken Berger and Fries please.

roverfoxy wrote:
Not from me just something my mate sent from a Norweigan fan

In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.
He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.
When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and a lot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.
So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die-hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

Reg Rover wrote:
KEAN MUST NOT SUCCEED Steve Kean’s constructive dismissal action against Blackburn Rovers must not be allowed to succeed. Rover’s had a very strong case to sack him. But dallied and did not take the opportunity, they may well regret that hesitation if Kean’s action succeeds. It would appear that this strange regime cannot make strong decisions. Either that or there is no one to make them. The awful mess of appointing a new manager is a point in case. Rovers redress to Kean’s accusations that he was forced out of Ewood are strong and they must enforce their case. I would be asking many questions of the Kean regime. Why for example did agent’s Jerome Anderson’s son Myles Anderson, receive a Premiership full time contract when he could not find a club for ‘love or money’ to take him? To counter Kean’s claim that Shebby (open mouth then engage brain) Singh forced players onto him Kean did not want, is that not exactly what Jerome Anderson did? Kean was only to happy to go along with Anderson. After all he owed Anderson for getting the Rovers job. Both having allegedly conspired to get rid of Sam Allardyce. Kean has the worst record of any Blackburn Rovers manager in history. Furthermore, what employee in a major management position who loses half his firms customers keeps his job? – Kean did. I could go on and on about the failure’s and misdemeanours of Kean. But we all know what a disaster Kean was, he destroyed Blackburn Rovers football club. Mrs Anuradha Desai (pic above) got her comeuppance when Kean took the opportunity to resign on legal advice. She was warned about Kean but chose to ignore advice from everyone around her. If Kean wins his claim for a compensation pay-out of around £2 million pounds, who will pay? Mrs Desai? No, it will be us the fans- the money will come out of the clubs coffers not Mrs Desai’s. That is why Kean must not succeed or it will lead to even more unrest between the fans and the clubs owners. Reg. wwww,regoftherovers. co.uk

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

I'm not saying that Solksjær isn't a winner but he's been working with Norway's second biggest team whereas Berg's first appointment was with the equivalent of a Wigan and he still managed to finish 3rd.

As for being out of work for a year, that isn't true. He's been working as a TV pundit in Norway, just like many British managers do between club roles.

Has it not occurred to you that he was happy to take some time out after what happened at Lillestrøm? Like many other managers he may have been waiting for an opportunity to manage in another country.

There's no guaranteeing that Berg will bring success but then again there's no guarantee that Solskjær would either. Winning the league with the second best team in the country doesn't make you a tactical genius.

Terrier man wrote:

Cyprusblue wrote:
Whoever get's the job deserves our support. The fact that we are lumbered with Shabby, Hendry, Shaw etc is NOT the new managers fault. If it is Henning then good luck to him and lets all get behind him. Yes the club is a joke. Yes our global adviser is not much more than an ex pub footballer and TV gobshite, yes the infastructure of the club has been wrecked by the half witted half wits frome Pune (where would they have got in life without daddy setting them up). No matter what the state of our club is it is not the fault of the new manager so please,please,please lets get behind him. We are no longer a well run, stable and respected premier league club that could attract the managers from the top table. We are unfortunately a badly runchampionship side in dissaray. We quite rightly hate the destruction that has been wreaked upon our club. We despair at the idiots who have been appointed to run the club by the even bigger idiots in pune. I think it's fair to say that we won't be at peace till the collection of half wits referrred to previously have gone from our beloved club. At least the ultimate scumbag Kean has gone. One down and a few more to go yet. Henning Berg however has simply applied for a job at his former club where he is respected and remembered fondly. If he is appointed the we must all get behind him and support bioth him and the team. Nothing else is good enough. We the fans protested long and hard against kean for very good reason. most, if not all of us know without doubt that Kean needed to be removed and we the fans took the only action we could to remove him. We did it for the good of our club. If we carry on to protest after a new manager has been appointed then we are quite rightly open to critisism that we are damaging our club even further. We wiil we be open to derision and we will deserve it. I will welcome the new manager and offer 100% support. The mess we are in is not of his making. Good luck Henning. I am right behind you and hope that i speak for all the other Rovers faithful past and present. Good luck!!!!!!!! COYB 33yrs

Great post, except it's 34 years!

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

I'm not saying that Solksjær isn't a winner but he's been working with Norway's second biggest team whereas Berg's first appointment was with the equivalent of a Wigan and he still managed to finish 3rd.

As for being out of work for a year, that isn't true. He's been working as a TV pundit in Norway, just like many British managers do between club roles.

Has it not occurred to you that he was happy to take some time out after what happened at Lillestrøm? Like many other managers he may have been waiting for an opportunity to manage in another country.

There's no guaranteeing that Berg will bring success but then again there's no guarantee that Solskjær would either. Winning the league with the second best team in the country doesn't make you a tactical genius.

So Molde are the 2nd biggest team in Norway?

Based upon what exactly?

I've already pointed out that last year 2011 they won the title for the first time in 100 years.

Their record in past 10 years is;-
2003 9th
2004 11th
2005 12th
2006 14th and relegated
2007 Div 1 winners (equivalent to our Championship)
2008 9th
2009 2nd
2010 11th

So your claims that they are the 2nd biggest team in Norway certainly isn't based on the number of trophies they have won.

Capacity wise, their stadium is the only the 10th largest in Norway.

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

I'm not saying that Solksjær isn't a winner but he's been working with Norway's second biggest team whereas Berg's first appointment was with the equivalent of a Wigan and he still managed to finish 3rd.

As for being out of work for a year, that isn't true. He's been working as a TV pundit in Norway, just like many British managers do between club roles.

Has it not occurred to you that he was happy to take some time out after what happened at Lillestrøm? Like many other managers he may have been waiting for an opportunity to manage in another country.

There's no guaranteeing that Berg will bring success but then again there's no guarantee that Solskjær would either. Winning the league with the second best team in the country doesn't make you a tactical genius.

So Molde are the 2nd biggest team in Norway?

Based upon what exactly?

I've already pointed out that last year 2011 they won the title for the first time in 100 years.

Their record in past 10 years is;-
2003 9th
2004 11th
2005 12th
2006 14th and relegated
2007 Div 1 winners (equivalent to our Championship)
2008 9th
2009 2nd
2010 11th

So your claims that they are the 2nd biggest team in Norway certainly isn't based on the number of trophies they have won.

Capacity wise, their stadium is the only the 10th largest in Norway.

A club's fan base isn't restricted to the capacity of their stadium or their league position. Their following increased substantially due to their performances over the last twenty or so years. As for reiterating that they won their first league title in 100 years, they weren't playing regularly in the top divisions of Norwegian football until 1974. Less than 40 years ago they were practically an amateur team.

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

I'm not saying that Solksjær isn't a winner but he's been working with Norway's second biggest team whereas Berg's first appointment was with the equivalent of a Wigan and he still managed to finish 3rd.

As for being out of work for a year, that isn't true. He's been working as a TV pundit in Norway, just like many British managers do between club roles.

Has it not occurred to you that he was happy to take some time out after what happened at Lillestrøm? Like many other managers he may have been waiting for an opportunity to manage in another country.

There's no guaranteeing that Berg will bring success but then again there's no guarantee that Solskjær would either. Winning the league with the second best team in the country doesn't make you a tactical genius.

So Molde are the 2nd biggest team in Norway?

Based upon what exactly?

I've already pointed out that last year 2011 they won the title for the first time in 100 years.

Their record in past 10 years is;-
2003 9th
2004 11th
2005 12th
2006 14th and relegated
2007 Div 1 winners (equivalent to our Championship)
2008 9th
2009 2nd
2010 11th

So your claims that they are the 2nd biggest team in Norway certainly isn't based on the number of trophies they have won.

Capacity wise, their stadium is the only the 10th largest in Norway.

A club's fan base isn't restricted to the capacity of their stadium or their league position. Their following increased substantially due to their performances over the last twenty or so years. As for reiterating that they won their first league title in 100 years, they weren't playing regularly in the top divisions of Norwegian football until 1974. Less than 40 years ago they were practically an amateur team.

So what you are really saying is that it is only the size of Molde's fan base that makes them the 2nd biggest club in Norway.

The club's history, stadium capacity, recent league positions and number of trophies won do not appear to count.

I believe that the vast majority of football fans would disagree with your argument.

Molde may be playing to packed stadiums at the moment but that is due to the success achieved under their present manager OGS - see original post.

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

I'm not saying that Solksjær isn't a winner but he's been working with Norway's second biggest team whereas Berg's first appointment was with the equivalent of a Wigan and he still managed to finish 3rd.

As for being out of work for a year, that isn't true. He's been working as a TV pundit in Norway, just like many British managers do between club roles.

Has it not occurred to you that he was happy to take some time out after what happened at Lillestrøm? Like many other managers he may have been waiting for an opportunity to manage in another country.

There's no guaranteeing that Berg will bring success but then again there's no guarantee that Solskjær would either. Winning the league with the second best team in the country doesn't make you a tactical genius.

So Molde are the 2nd biggest team in Norway?

Based upon what exactly?

I've already pointed out that last year 2011 they won the title for the first time in 100 years.

Their record in past 10 years is;-
2003 9th
2004 11th
2005 12th
2006 14th and relegated
2007 Div 1 winners (equivalent to our Championship)
2008 9th
2009 2nd
2010 11th

So your claims that they are the 2nd biggest team in Norway certainly isn't based on the number of trophies they have won.

Capacity wise, their stadium is the only the 10th largest in Norway.

A club's fan base isn't restricted to the capacity of their stadium or their league position. Their following increased substantially due to their performances over the last twenty or so years. As for reiterating that they won their first league title in 100 years, they weren't playing regularly in the top divisions of Norwegian football until 1974. Less than 40 years ago they were practically an amateur team.

So what you are really saying is that it is only the size of Molde's fan base that makes them the 2nd biggest club in Norway.

The club's history, stadium capacity, recent league positions and number of trophies won do not appear to count.

I believe that the vast majority of football fans would disagree with your argument.

Molde may be playing to packed stadiums at the moment but that is due to the success achieved under their present manager OGS - see original post.

I work on oil refineries for a Scandanavian company and, therefore, alongside hundreds of Norwegians. They say that Molde is the second biggest club in Norway, after Rosenberg. I think I'll listen to what they have to say about their own league instead of what your view is on what constitutes a big club.

The vast majority of Norwegian football fans disagree with you, end of.

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srvp28 wrote:

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srvp28 wrote:

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Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

I'm not saying that Solksjær isn't a winner but he's been working with Norway's second biggest team whereas Berg's first appointment was with the equivalent of a Wigan and he still managed to finish 3rd.

As for being out of work for a year, that isn't true. He's been working as a TV pundit in Norway, just like many British managers do between club roles.

Has it not occurred to you that he was happy to take some time out after what happened at Lillestrøm? Like many other managers he may have been waiting for an opportunity to manage in another country.

There's no guaranteeing that Berg will bring success but then again there's no guarantee that Solskjær would either. Winning the league with the second best team in the country doesn't make you a tactical genius.

So Molde are the 2nd biggest team in Norway?

Based upon what exactly?

I've already pointed out that last year 2011 they won the title for the first time in 100 years.

Their record in past 10 years is;-
2003 9th
2004 11th
2005 12th
2006 14th and relegated
2007 Div 1 winners (equivalent to our Championship)
2008 9th
2009 2nd
2010 11th

So your claims that they are the 2nd biggest team in Norway certainly isn't based on the number of trophies they have won.

Capacity wise, their stadium is the only the 10th largest in Norway.

A club's fan base isn't restricted to the capacity of their stadium or their league position. Their following increased substantially due to their performances over the last twenty or so years. As for reiterating that they won their first league title in 100 years, they weren't playing regularly in the top divisions of Norwegian football until 1974. Less than 40 years ago they were practically an amateur team.

So what you are really saying is that it is only the size of Molde's fan base that makes them the 2nd biggest club in Norway.

The club's history, stadium capacity, recent league positions and number of trophies won do not appear to count.

I believe that the vast majority of football fans would disagree with your argument.

Molde may be playing to packed stadiums at the moment but that is due to the success achieved under their present manager OGS - see original post.

I work on oil refineries for a Scandanavian company and, therefore, alongside hundreds of Norwegians. They say that Molde is the second biggest club in Norway, after Rosenberg. I think I'll listen to what they have to say about their own league instead of what your view is on what constitutes a big club.

The vast majority of Norwegian football fans disagree with you, end of.

Your Norwegian work colleages may be saying that now after Molde won the league last year and are currently top this year with 3 games left (due to OGS being manager) BUT I bet they weren't saying that in 2010 when they finished 11th.
End of.

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

I'm not saying that Solksjær isn't a winner but he's been working with Norway's second biggest team whereas Berg's first appointment was with the equivalent of a Wigan and he still managed to finish 3rd.

As for being out of work for a year, that isn't true. He's been working as a TV pundit in Norway, just like many British managers do between club roles.

Has it not occurred to you that he was happy to take some time out after what happened at Lillestrøm? Like many other managers he may have been waiting for an opportunity to manage in another country.

There's no guaranteeing that Berg will bring success but then again there's no guarantee that Solskjær would either. Winning the league with the second best team in the country doesn't make you a tactical genius.

So Molde are the 2nd biggest team in Norway?

Based upon what exactly?

I've already pointed out that last year 2011 they won the title for the first time in 100 years.

Their record in past 10 years is;-
2003 9th
2004 11th
2005 12th
2006 14th and relegated
2007 Div 1 winners (equivalent to our Championship)
2008 9th
2009 2nd
2010 11th

So your claims that they are the 2nd biggest team in Norway certainly isn't based on the number of trophies they have won.

Capacity wise, their stadium is the only the 10th largest in Norway.

A club's fan base isn't restricted to the capacity of their stadium or their league position. Their following increased substantially due to their performances over the last twenty or so years. As for reiterating that they won their first league title in 100 years, they weren't playing regularly in the top divisions of Norwegian football until 1974. Less than 40 years ago they were practically an amateur team.

So what you are really saying is that it is only the size of Molde's fan base that makes them the 2nd biggest club in Norway.

The club's history, stadium capacity, recent league positions and number of trophies won do not appear to count.

I believe that the vast majority of football fans would disagree with your argument.

Molde may be playing to packed stadiums at the moment but that is due to the success achieved under their present manager OGS - see original post.

I work on oil refineries for a Scandanavian company and, therefore, alongside hundreds of Norwegians. They say that Molde is the second biggest club in Norway, after Rosenberg. I think I'll listen to what they have to say about their own league instead of what your view is on what constitutes a big club.

The vast majority of Norwegian football fans disagree with you, end of.

Your Norwegian work colleages may be saying that now after Molde won the league last year and are currently top this year with 3 games left (due to OGS being manager) BUT I bet they weren't saying that in 2010 when they finished 11th.
End of.

No, they've said that Molde have been the second biggest club in Norway for the last twenty or so years, as I've already mentioned. They know more about it than you. End of.

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

srvp28 wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well 33 days on and if the media reports are to be believed then it is going to be Henning Berg.
My personal opinion is that considering the top names that had applied for the position I am more than a little disappointed.

Right from the outset Shebby and the Board appear to have been obsessed by ex-players as if this will somehow bring the fans flooding back to Ewood.

They did not listen to the fans calling for an experienced manager - someone who has had success in this division and knows what it takes to get promotion.

Instead they went ahead with their own agenda in seeking out Sherwood (the Youth Team Technical Director at Spurs) and McKinlay (the first team coach at Fulham behind Martin Jol and the Head Coach).

Only a backlash from the fans stopped an approach for McKinlay and caused Shebby and the Board to revisit their main attributes to ensure ‘experience’ was a consideration.

Unfortunatey I am not certain that a Berg with less than a glowing reputation in Norwegian management will be the answer.
He has no experience of managing anywhere in England, he has been out of work for the past 12 months and has been operating as a TV pundit.

If we are to go down the Norwegian route, surely it should be OGS.
Whilst he too has no managerial experience in England, at least he has been successful in Norway. He won the league in his first season and Molde currently are 3 points clear at the top with 3 games to go.

The Norwegian League actually finishes on 18th November 2012 and does not go into December as per Andy Cryer’s report.
Why can we not wait another 2 ½ weeks for OGS?

Solskjær had far more resources to work with than Berg, not really a fair comparison. Also, Solskjær has already distanced himself from any job until the Tippelgaen season has finished. It may only be three weeks away but there's no guarantee he'd be interested, let alone take the job. After all, he's not going to disrupt the last three games of a potential title-winning season to ask Molde for permission to talk to Rovers before then.

Whilst I am not an expert on the relative resources of Norwegian football clubs, it is a fact that Molde won their first ever Norwegian title in 2011 – their first in their 100 year history.
At the present moment they are 3 points clear at the top with just 3 games to go.
This proves to me that OGS is a winner.

I believe that he would have been worth waiting an extra 2 ½ weeks to get him – assuming that he would be prepared to work for Venkys of course.

With regard to Henning Berg – if he was that good why was he out of work for a year?

Why was he not been snapped up by other Norwegian clubs?

I don’t know, but if he is appointed as manager later today he will have my full support and backing.

I'm not saying that Solksjær isn't a winner but he's been working with Norway's second biggest team whereas Berg's first appointment was with the equivalent of a Wigan and he still managed to finish 3rd.

As for being out of work for a year, that isn't true. He's been working as a TV pundit in Norway, just like many British managers do between club roles.

Has it not occurred to you that he was happy to take some time out after what happened at Lillestrøm? Like many other managers he may have been waiting for an opportunity to manage in another country.

There's no guaranteeing that Berg will bring success but then again there's no guarantee that Solskjær would either. Winning the league with the second best team in the country doesn't make you a tactical genius.

So Molde are the 2nd biggest team in Norway?

Based upon what exactly?

I've already pointed out that last year 2011 they won the title for the first time in 100 years.

Their record in past 10 years is;-
2003 9th
2004 11th
2005 12th
2006 14th and relegated
2007 Div 1 winners (equivalent to our Championship)
2008 9th
2009 2nd
2010 11th

So your claims that they are the 2nd biggest team in Norway certainly isn't based on the number of trophies they have won.

Capacity wise, their stadium is the only the 10th largest in Norway.

A club's fan base isn't restricted to the capacity of their stadium or their league position. Their following increased substantially due to their performances over the last twenty or so years. As for reiterating that they won their first league title in 100 years, they weren't playing regularly in the top divisions of Norwegian football until 1974. Less than 40 years ago they were practically an amateur team.

So what you are really saying is that it is only the size of Molde's fan base that makes them the 2nd biggest club in Norway.

The club's history, stadium capacity, recent league positions and number of trophies won do not appear to count.

I believe that the vast majority of football fans would disagree with your argument.

Molde may be playing to packed stadiums at the moment but that is due to the success achieved under their present manager OGS - see original post.

I work on oil refineries for a Scandanavian company and, therefore, alongside hundreds of Norwegians. They say that Molde is the second biggest club in Norway, after Rosenberg. I think I'll listen to what they have to say about their own league instead of what your view is on what constitutes a big club.

The vast majority of Norwegian football fans disagree with you, end of.

Your Norwegian work colleages may be saying that now after Molde won the league last year and are currently top this year with 3 games left (due to OGS being manager) BUT I bet they weren't saying that in 2010 when they finished 11th.
End of.

No, they've said that Molde have been the second biggest club in Norway for the last twenty or so years, as I've already mentioned. They know more about it than you. End of.

In an earlier post you accuse someone of having no proof of ANYTHING.

Well thats just what you have here.
Your argument is based on what a work colleague has told you and you have absolutely no facts or figures as proof.

You started off by saying that Molde had far more resources than Lillestrom, that they were the 2nd biggest team in Norway and then went on to refer to Molde's fan base.

Largely due to their current manager Molde are riding high at the moment and like any successful club they will attract new fans just like our club did in the 1990's. But as I have aready proven to you, prior to that their record was pretty poor and they were actually relegated in 2006.

On the other hand, Lillestrom (Berg's previous team) hold the record for the most consecutive years in the top league in Norway, have won the league 5 times and according to Wiki they have the 2nd biggest fan club in Norway.
These are facts not hearsay.

To summarise, I would have preferred OGS as our new manager but I accept the appointment of Henning Berg and as I previously said, I will give him my full support and backing.

Whilst I am sure that you will feel the need to come back once again for the last word I won't be reading it. Bye.