Dyche won’t break the bank to boost Burnley squad

Sean Dyche is growing frustrated with the transfer market and says the £11m spent on Ross McCormack (below) wasn’t helpful

Sean Dyche is growing frustrated with the transfer market and says the £11m spent on Ross McCormack (below) wasn’t helpful

First published in Sport This Is Lancashire: Photograph of the Author by , Burnley FC reporter

SEAN Dyche admits it is difficult to match the cash being splashed around football - but insists that won’t stop him from trying to add to his Burnley squad before the transfer window closes on Monday night.

The Clarets boss has seen efforts to sign a host of targets thwarted in recent weeks and appears certain to miss out on Wigan Athletic’s James McArthur after fellow Premier League new boys Leicester City had a £6.5m bid accepted by the Latics last night.

But Dyche is prepared to battle on to boost his Turf Moor resources.

“We’re trying,” he said. “There are a couple of situations that were close and then a couple have gone away from us.

“People are throwing a lot more money around than us.

“Money makes it work it’s as simple as that. You can’t hide the fact that money makes the transfer market work.

“It’s a reality of the club that we are. I’ve got certain financial parameters to work within, it’s very difficult on both wages and transfer fees.

“The club has to survive, it has to move forward, it has to build for the future so it is a challenge, there’s no two ways about it.

“But we want to try to get in what we can and the players that we think are suitable.

“We think we’ve done that so for, but we still want to add more.”

Dyche says the £11m spent by Fulham on Leeds United’s Ross McCormack set the ball rolling for a summer of money madness – and admits he can’t even begin to think about that sort of cash.

“£11million is out of our league. We won’t be signing an individual player for £11million. I’m pretty sure of that,” he said.

“The other clubs that have come up are renowned for spending more money than us full stop.

“Leicester were spending a lot of money when Sven was there when they were in the Championship.

“Nigel spent a lot of money when they were in the Championship, QPR spent a lot of money in the Championship and Premier League.

“It’s just a reality of the market and some clubs are just used to spending and spending and spending and our club has not been used to that – certainly since I’ve been here.

“It’s a challenge that everyone has to get used to, it’s the reality of it.

“The signing market is obviously tough because of the money. The days of bargains are gone. You can’t find bargains any more.

“You go to a Conference side now, you don’t nick one for £50,000 any more, they want £500,000. That’s how it’s changed.

“They seem to be not so easy to find.”

Dyche may go down the avenue of the loan market – but Premier League rules only allow for two loan signings.

He added: “It’s quite tight in this situation because you get two. They will be two players who want to then play, and it they’re not playing they’ll wonder what they’re doing.

“The loan market is weirdly harder whereas in the Championship it stays open. It’s a slightly more flexible system. That’s a tougher one in a different kind of way.

“The difference was last year in the Championship you get the flexibility of the loan situation, in the Premier League you don’t get that, that’s why it is important that we bring players in.

“We took the club forward so quickly in the last season – no-one was expecting it, including the club – so things that you normally put in place as you’re going weren’t in place.

“That sometimes catches you by surprise, recruitment structures, financial thinking – all of those things – so you have to ramp it up really quickly and with the market that’s running away.”

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12:54pm Thu 28 Aug 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

6.5 million for McArthur ir spot on regarding value, You don't walk in Harrods with your pound shop shopping vouchers. We are fast turning into a laughing stock.
Played three lost three and Man U up next. Time is running out for the money men of this well run club.
I've never seen a club more efficiently run into the championship
6.5 million for McArthur ir spot on regarding value, You don't walk in Harrods with your pound shop shopping vouchers. We are fast turning into a laughing stock. Played three lost three and Man U up next. Time is running out for the money men of this well run club. I've never seen a club more efficiently run into the championship AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -12

1:06pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

He has picked up quite a few players from the bargain basement so far, maybe the board are looking for him to seek out a BOGOF type of player.
He has picked up quite a few players from the bargain basement so far, maybe the board are looking for him to seek out a BOGOF type of player. Its Only a game boy
  • Score: 3

1:09pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Dublin Claret says...

Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction. Dublin Claret
  • Score: 7

1:11pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Frisson says...

120m pot for getting promoted and prob about 4m spent of players and painting seats and getting an awesome corrugated tunnel. LOOOOOL
120m pot for getting promoted and prob about 4m spent of players and painting seats and getting an awesome corrugated tunnel. LOOOOOL Frisson
  • Score: -8

1:12pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

sign up the MK Dons team......
sign up the MK Dons team...... Its Only a game boy
  • Score: 4

1:57pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Frisson wrote:
120m pot for getting promoted and prob about 4m spent of players and painting seats and getting an awesome corrugated tunnel. LOOOOOL
dont forget new urinals, the directors need to back him or sack him
[quote][p][bold]Frisson[/bold] wrote: 120m pot for getting promoted and prob about 4m spent of players and painting seats and getting an awesome corrugated tunnel. LOOOOOL[/p][/quote]dont forget new urinals, the directors need to back him or sack him Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: -6

2:02pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
[quote][p][bold]Dublin Claret[/bold] wrote: Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.[/p][/quote]Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ? Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: -5

2:13pm Thu 28 Aug 14

RobH2O . says...

This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market? RobH2O .
  • Score: 3

2:13pm Thu 28 Aug 14

RobH2O . says...

This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market? RobH2O .
  • Score: 0

2:20pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Tableing bids are ok to keep the fans happy to con them into buying season tickets, but the player needs to have the heart to play for a championship side, clearly Deeny, Dawson and Landsbury just couldn’t pluck up the courage to sign
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Tableing bids are ok to keep the fans happy to con them into buying season tickets, but the player needs to have the heart to play for a championship side, clearly Deeny, Dawson and Landsbury just couldn’t pluck up the courage to sign Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: -6

2:40pm Thu 28 Aug 14

andy1 says...

If I could get one message to Sean and one message only. To me you are a great manager and have proven it however that bunch you work with called the board are the problem always have been always will be tight has ducks @rses which are water tight. This board is made up mainly still has the last lot from seasons 2009/10 who took the option when Owen Coyle went to get a clueless buffoon in as replacement because they had no one to compensate with Sheff Weds sacking him through poor run of results that was Brian Laws. Dyche ambition and knowledgeable. Burnley Board UnKnowledgeable unless we talk about Parachute Payments sack them.
If I could get one message to Sean and one message only. To me you are a great manager and have proven it however that bunch you work with called the board are the problem always have been always will be tight has ducks @rses which are water tight. This board is made up mainly still has the last lot from seasons 2009/10 who took the option when Owen Coyle went to get a clueless buffoon in as replacement because they had no one to compensate with Sheff Weds sacking him through poor run of results that was Brian Laws. Dyche ambition and knowledgeable. Burnley Board UnKnowledgeable unless we talk about Parachute Payments sack them. andy1
  • Score: 0

2:44pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

andy1 wrote:
If I could get one message to Sean and one message only. To me you are a great manager and have proven it however that bunch you work with called the board are the problem always have been always will be tight has ducks @rses which are water tight. This board is made up mainly still has the last lot from seasons 2009/10 who took the option when Owen Coyle went to get a clueless buffoon in as replacement because they had no one to compensate with Sheff Weds sacking him through poor run of results that was Brian Laws. Dyche ambition and knowledgeable. Burnley Board UnKnowledgeable unless we talk about Parachute Payments sack them.
well put, there is the problem with footy , even Manu 's demise is at board level
[quote][p][bold]andy1[/bold] wrote: If I could get one message to Sean and one message only. To me you are a great manager and have proven it however that bunch you work with called the board are the problem always have been always will be tight has ducks @rses which are water tight. This board is made up mainly still has the last lot from seasons 2009/10 who took the option when Owen Coyle went to get a clueless buffoon in as replacement because they had no one to compensate with Sheff Weds sacking him through poor run of results that was Brian Laws. Dyche ambition and knowledgeable. Burnley Board UnKnowledgeable unless we talk about Parachute Payments sack them.[/p][/quote]well put, there is the problem with footy , even Manu 's demise is at board level Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: -1

3:29pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Trick82 says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
[quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dublin Claret[/bold] wrote: Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.[/p][/quote]Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ? Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post[/p][/quote]you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe. Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show... Trick82
  • Score: 7

3:35pm Thu 28 Aug 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Because the board is yanking everyones chain
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Because the board is yanking everyones chain AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -3

3:40pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Pembina says...

Have friends in Burnley and don't wish for them to suffer watching their team glued to the bottom of the prem but they need to SPLASH THE CASH otherwise It's goodnight Irene.
Unlike the Venkys who have made watching football affordable down at Ewood I have every sympathy for my Burnley friends having to pay extortionate admission prices to watch their team.
Have friends in Burnley and don't wish for them to suffer watching their team glued to the bottom of the prem but they need to SPLASH THE CASH otherwise It's goodnight Irene. Unlike the Venkys who have made watching football affordable down at Ewood I have every sympathy for my Burnley friends having to pay extortionate admission prices to watch their team. Pembina
  • Score: 1

3:42pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC
Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season
[quote][p][bold]Trick82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dublin Claret[/bold] wrote: Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.[/p][/quote]Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ? Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post[/p][/quote]you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe. Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...[/p][/quote]Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: -2

3:56pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Trick82 says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC
Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season
erm you made the reference to Rovers - "what games have you been to. The rovers" why else would i mention them?
I think we need to look at the bigger picture here, we knew when we won promotion that we wouldn't be 'betting the ranch' and we knew when we won promotion that each and every game would be a tough game. So what's changed? There needs to be a reality check here, we didn't spend any money last season whilst Leicester and QPR were throwing it around and are continuing to do so and look where they are in the prem.
I wonder how many opinions will change if we beat utd on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trick82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dublin Claret[/bold] wrote: Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.[/p][/quote]Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ? Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post[/p][/quote]you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe. Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...[/p][/quote]Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season[/p][/quote]erm you made the reference to Rovers - "what games have you been to. The rovers" why else would i mention them? I think we need to look at the bigger picture here, we knew when we won promotion that we wouldn't be 'betting the ranch' and we knew when we won promotion that each and every game would be a tough game. So what's changed? There needs to be a reality check here, we didn't spend any money last season whilst Leicester and QPR were throwing it around and are continuing to do so and look where they are in the prem. I wonder how many opinions will change if we beat utd on Saturday. Trick82
  • Score: 5

4:03pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Antndec says...

I will show my arse in burnley center if we beat united
I will show my arse in burnley center if we beat united Antndec
  • Score: 5

4:07pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC
Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season
erm you made the reference to Rovers - "what games have you been to. The rovers" why else would i mention them?
I think we need to look at the bigger picture here, we knew when we won promotion that we wouldn't be 'betting the ranch' and we knew when we won promotion that each and every game would be a tough game. So what's changed? There needs to be a reality check here, we didn't spend any money last season whilst Leicester and QPR were throwing it around and are continuing to do so and look where they are in the prem.
I wonder how many opinions will change if we beat utd on Saturday.
Over a season you have to have a good squad and a board that will back the manager, you haven’t, and just like last time the board would not back the manager Coyle ,that’s why he left, then the fans called him Judas lol
Unbelievable, and here you are again in the same predicament, why has your club not learnt your lesson yes again ?
its nothing to do with the Rovers.
[quote][p][bold]Trick82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trick82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dublin Claret[/bold] wrote: Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.[/p][/quote]Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ? Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post[/p][/quote]you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe. Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...[/p][/quote]Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season[/p][/quote]erm you made the reference to Rovers - "what games have you been to. The rovers" why else would i mention them? I think we need to look at the bigger picture here, we knew when we won promotion that we wouldn't be 'betting the ranch' and we knew when we won promotion that each and every game would be a tough game. So what's changed? There needs to be a reality check here, we didn't spend any money last season whilst Leicester and QPR were throwing it around and are continuing to do so and look where they are in the prem. I wonder how many opinions will change if we beat utd on Saturday.[/p][/quote]Over a season you have to have a good squad and a board that will back the manager, you haven’t, and just like last time the board would not back the manager Coyle ,that’s why he left, then the fans called him Judas lol Unbelievable, and here you are again in the same predicament, why has your club not learnt your lesson yes again ? its nothing to do with the Rovers. Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: -3

4:19pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Midland Claret says...

Rarely disagree with the manager but is he talking about the piggy bank. Generous lashings of money have been made available courtesy of Satellite TV. Some of it although the directors may argue is designed to be spent on players who will improve the team and enhance the TV product.
So to the Directors finally support your manager get some Satellite money spent ( which is not your own) and do the right thing as intended.
Rarely disagree with the manager but is he talking about the piggy bank. Generous lashings of money have been made available courtesy of Satellite TV. Some of it although the directors may argue is designed to be spent on players who will improve the team and enhance the TV product. So to the Directors finally support your manager get some Satellite money spent ( which is not your own) and do the right thing as intended. Midland Claret
  • Score: 0

4:20pm Thu 28 Aug 14

aviitt says...

This must be at least the fifth time I've seen this headline.
This must be at least the fifth time I've seen this headline. aviitt
  • Score: 2

4:24pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Trick82 says...

how have we not learnt leasons, we're back in the prem 4 years later and a profitable club. I think you should look at your own board before you start pointing fingers. especially with what has happened to the 'mighty rovers' in those four years?
I'll enjoy every game we're involved in whether we get the chance to spend money or not. we have earned our right to be in this league and not bought our way into it, so whatever happens I know the manager and the team will give everything to the cause yet again. So what's not to be excited about if your a Burnley fan?
how have we not learnt leasons, we're back in the prem 4 years later and a profitable club. I think you should look at your own board before you start pointing fingers. especially with what has happened to the 'mighty rovers' in those four years? I'll enjoy every game we're involved in whether we get the chance to spend money or not. we have earned our right to be in this league and not bought our way into it, so whatever happens I know the manager and the team will give everything to the cause yet again. So what's not to be excited about if your a Burnley fan? Trick82
  • Score: 0

4:45pm Thu 28 Aug 14

owd nick says...

RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up. owd nick
  • Score: 6

5:45pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
Owd Nick talks a lot of sense, the first one I've heard from that lot- of course he is right- with the squad we got now, good as it is, we will,struggle to stay in the PL and without throwing Monopoly money at it, the board need to dig just a little deeper.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]Owd Nick talks a lot of sense, the first one I've heard from that lot- of course he is right- with the squad we got now, good as it is, we will,struggle to stay in the PL and without throwing Monopoly money at it, the board need to dig just a little deeper. Its Only a game boy
  • Score: 1

5:50pm Thu 28 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC
Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season
erm you made the reference to Rovers - "what games have you been to. The rovers" why else would i mention them?
I think we need to look at the bigger picture here, we knew when we won promotion that we wouldn't be 'betting the ranch' and we knew when we won promotion that each and every game would be a tough game. So what's changed? There needs to be a reality check here, we didn't spend any money last season whilst Leicester and QPR were throwing it around and are continuing to do so and look where they are in the prem.
I wonder how many opinions will change if we beat utd on Saturday.
Over a season you have to have a good squad and a board that will back the manager, you haven’t, and just like last time the board would not back the manager Coyle ,that’s why he left, then the fans called him Judas lol
Unbelievable, and here you are again in the same predicament, why has your club not learnt your lesson yes again ?
its nothing to do with the Rovers.
No it isn't, but at least we have had 2 good managers that have got us promoted, you on the other hand have had 0 good managers unless you count, Allardyce, Ince, Berg, Appleton, Kean, & Bowyer as good managers, more like a comedy gold moment.
[quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trick82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trick82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dublin Claret[/bold] wrote: Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.[/p][/quote]Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ? Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post[/p][/quote]you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe. Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...[/p][/quote]Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season[/p][/quote]erm you made the reference to Rovers - "what games have you been to. The rovers" why else would i mention them? I think we need to look at the bigger picture here, we knew when we won promotion that we wouldn't be 'betting the ranch' and we knew when we won promotion that each and every game would be a tough game. So what's changed? There needs to be a reality check here, we didn't spend any money last season whilst Leicester and QPR were throwing it around and are continuing to do so and look where they are in the prem. I wonder how many opinions will change if we beat utd on Saturday.[/p][/quote]Over a season you have to have a good squad and a board that will back the manager, you haven’t, and just like last time the board would not back the manager Coyle ,that’s why he left, then the fans called him Judas lol Unbelievable, and here you are again in the same predicament, why has your club not learnt your lesson yes again ? its nothing to do with the Rovers.[/p][/quote]No it isn't, but at least we have had 2 good managers that have got us promoted, you on the other hand have had 0 good managers unless you count, Allardyce, Ince, Berg, Appleton, Kean, & Bowyer as good managers, more like a comedy gold moment. mjp 53
  • Score: 5

5:51pm Thu 28 Aug 14

McClaret says...

It appears that there is a market price and then there is a Burnley price. Is it us that is not in the 'real' world?
It appears that there is a market price and then there is a Burnley price. Is it us that is not in the 'real' world? McClaret
  • Score: 2

5:57pm Thu 28 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

Midland Claret wrote:
Rarely disagree with the manager but is he talking about the piggy bank. Generous lashings of money have been made available courtesy of Satellite TV. Some of it although the directors may argue is designed to be spent on players who will improve the team and enhance the TV product.
So to the Directors finally support your manager get some Satellite money spent ( which is not your own) and do the right thing as intended.
They wont its quite simple, no investment, no chance. If you look at the bottom 10 clubs who will form the mini league as it is called,Southampton have spent 40 million down Villa who have spent 9 million. Below them come us and Crystal Palace who have spent 3 million and 2.3 million respectively. I know money doesn't buy you success as was proved last season, but the Premier league is totally different, with all the money being thrown around it is beneficial to try and stay in it.Look at Hull and West Ham, both have been up for several seasons now and they have both spent around 29 million.
It waslear on Tuesday we need more quality players otherwise its going to be a long hard season. The board need to back Dyche otherwise it could be exactly the same scenario last time we went up and he will be off, and who could blame him.
[quote][p][bold]Midland Claret[/bold] wrote: Rarely disagree with the manager but is he talking about the piggy bank. Generous lashings of money have been made available courtesy of Satellite TV. Some of it although the directors may argue is designed to be spent on players who will improve the team and enhance the TV product. So to the Directors finally support your manager get some Satellite money spent ( which is not your own) and do the right thing as intended.[/p][/quote]They wont its quite simple, no investment, no chance. If you look at the bottom 10 clubs who will form the mini league as it is called,Southampton have spent 40 million down Villa who have spent 9 million. Below them come us and Crystal Palace who have spent 3 million and 2.3 million respectively. I know money doesn't buy you success as was proved last season, but the Premier league is totally different, with all the money being thrown around it is beneficial to try and stay in it.Look at Hull and West Ham, both have been up for several seasons now and they have both spent around 29 million. It waslear on Tuesday we need more quality players otherwise its going to be a long hard season. The board need to back Dyche otherwise it could be exactly the same scenario last time we went up and he will be off, and who could blame him. mjp 53
  • Score: 12

6:01pm Thu 28 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

McClaret wrote:
It appears that there is a market price and then there is a Burnley price. Is it us that is not in the 'real' world?
No all the prices have been seriously inflated and that's the only reason, the other is the board cannot grasp that and where they think a player is worth 4 million say, that player is worth 6.5 million, but the board will not pay the higher price for whatever reason and we end up losing out. Bryson was a classic example because of his contract, had we gone in slightly higher then we would have got him. Bryson, Dawson, Lansbury, Deeney, McArthur all lost out to because we either could not afford them or the board were not willing to match the clubs asking price.
[quote][p][bold]McClaret[/bold] wrote: It appears that there is a market price and then there is a Burnley price. Is it us that is not in the 'real' world?[/p][/quote]No all the prices have been seriously inflated and that's the only reason, the other is the board cannot grasp that and where they think a player is worth 4 million say, that player is worth 6.5 million, but the board will not pay the higher price for whatever reason and we end up losing out. Bryson was a classic example because of his contract, had we gone in slightly higher then we would have got him. Bryson, Dawson, Lansbury, Deeney, McArthur all lost out to because we either could not afford them or the board were not willing to match the clubs asking price. mjp 53
  • Score: 7

6:04pm Thu 28 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
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  • Score: -7

6:05pm Thu 28 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
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The thing is, you won't get into 'trouble' though. WANT TO KNOW WHY?

Because my name is a matter of public record you tormented, tortured soul...

...as is your's and everyone else's. That is why when i posted the name and address of the main anchor at Radio Rovers on these pages in 2012 because he played loud music through the stadium speakers at Ewood Park to drown out protesting Rovers fans that had gathered after a game to protest in The Blackburn End - nothing was done. His name and address are a matter of public record....so go on... i dare you... i double dare you...I TRIPLE DARE YOU.

And don't blather on about IP addresses either because IP addresses give no personal details at all about the owner of the PC; the IP address is simply the number of a specific PC. That's it. No personal details - so that people are protected from fraud and oh yeah... weirdo's like you cyber bullying and threatening people with violence and stalking, so crack on your silly daft tw*t because the only person committing any crime on here is you. Why do you think the previous thread where you made all these cyber bullying threats was closed down?

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[quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]URGENT MESSAGE for Gangsta No. 1: Spell my initials out if you don't want to get into 'trouble'. The thing is, you won't get into 'trouble' though. WANT TO KNOW WHY? Because my name is a matter of public record you tormented, tortured soul... ...as is your's and everyone else's. That is why when i posted the name and address of the main anchor at Radio Rovers on these pages in 2012 because he played loud music through the stadium speakers at Ewood Park to drown out protesting Rovers fans that had gathered after a game to protest in The Blackburn End - nothing was done. His name and address are a matter of public record....so go on... i dare you... i double dare you...I TRIPLE DARE YOU. And don't blather on about IP addresses either because IP addresses give no personal details at all about the owner of the PC; the IP address is simply the number of a specific PC. That's it. No personal details - so that people are protected from fraud and oh yeah... weirdo's like you cyber bullying and threatening people with violence and stalking, so crack on your silly daft tw*t because the only person committing any crime on here is you. Why do you think the previous thread where you made all these cyber bullying threats was closed down? Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrick! BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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6:06pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Claretcert says...

Does anyone other than a miserable doom saying bstrd fan seriously think we're going to get hammered every week? Get real. QPR who we battered are older and even less competent. Leicester won't win a gazillion penalties by falling over. We will be fine.
Does anyone other than a miserable doom saying bstrd fan seriously think we're going to get hammered every week? Get real. QPR who we battered are older and even less competent. Leicester won't win a gazillion penalties by falling over. We will be fine. Claretcert
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6:06pm Thu 28 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

andy1 wrote:
If I could get one message to Sean and one message only. To me you are a great manager and have proven it however that bunch you work with called the board are the problem always have been always will be tight has ducks @rses which are water tight. This board is made up mainly still has the last lot from seasons 2009/10 who took the option when Owen Coyle went to get a clueless buffoon in as replacement because they had no one to compensate with Sheff Weds sacking him through poor run of results that was Brian Laws. Dyche ambition and knowledgeable. Burnley Board UnKnowledgeable unless we talk about Parachute Payments sack them.
If i could get one message to 'Sean' it would be this:

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[quote][p][bold]andy1[/bold] wrote: If I could get one message to Sean and one message only. To me you are a great manager and have proven it however that bunch you work with called the board are the problem always have been always will be tight has ducks @rses which are water tight. This board is made up mainly still has the last lot from seasons 2009/10 who took the option when Owen Coyle went to get a clueless buffoon in as replacement because they had no one to compensate with Sheff Weds sacking him through poor run of results that was Brian Laws. Dyche ambition and knowledgeable. Burnley Board UnKnowledgeable unless we talk about Parachute Payments sack them.[/p][/quote]If i could get one message to 'Sean' it would be this: D O W N B Y C H R I S T M A S BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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6:07pm Thu 28 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
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[quote][p][bold]Trick82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dublin Claret[/bold] wrote: Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.[/p][/quote]Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ? Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post[/p][/quote]you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe. Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...[/p][/quote]D O W N B Y C H R I S T M A S BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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6:09pm Thu 28 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC
Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season
Yet more breath taking B*rnley arrogance.

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[quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trick82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dublin Claret[/bold] wrote: Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience. There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right. We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday. lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.[/p][/quote]Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ? Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post[/p][/quote]you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe. Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...[/p][/quote]Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season[/p][/quote]Yet more breath taking B*rnley arrogance. D O W N B Y C H R I S T M A S BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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6:10pm Thu 28 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

Antndec wrote:
I will show my arse in burnley center if we beat united
Crispy and Rob the Drip will be there with there Windows Smart Phones.

They love a bit of that.
[quote][p][bold]Antndec[/bold] wrote: I will show my arse in burnley center if we beat united[/p][/quote]Crispy and Rob the Drip will be there with there Windows Smart Phones. They love a bit of that. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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6:11pm Thu 28 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC
Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season
erm you made the reference to Rovers - "what games have you been to. The rovers" why else would i mention them?
I think we need to look at the bigger picture here, we knew when we won promotion that we wouldn't be 'betting the ranch' and we knew when we won promotion that each and every game would be a tough game. So what's changed? There needs to be a reality check here, we didn't spend any money last season whilst Leicester and QPR were throwing it around and are continuing to do so and look where they are in the prem.
I wonder how many opinions will change if we beat utd on Saturday.
Over a season you have to have a good squad and a board that will back the manager, you haven’t, and just like last time the board would not back the manager Coyle ,that’s why he left, then the fans called him Judas lol
Unbelievable, and here you are again in the same predicament, why has your club not learnt your lesson yes again ?
its nothing to do with the Rovers.
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6:13pm Thu 28 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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mjp 53 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Trick82 wrote:
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
Dublin Claret wrote:
Frustrating for everyone at the moment, results and lack of signings, but we've got to be patience.
There's a long way to go, it's not o sprint, so lets trust the board and the boss to get it right.
We're still learning and our performances in the league so far have shown encouraging signs, so lets get right behind the whole club this Saturday.
lt's going to be a hell of a tough match, so we need everyone to be pulling in the same direction.
Patience!!! long way to go ? Encouraging signs? What games have you been to, TheRovers ?
Your joint bottom already, panic alarms need to be activated, the gap is huge , you have not one PL players, Dyke looks a worried man look at his pictures that LET post
you muppet, we've played Chelsea at home and Swansea away. No need to panic is there really. We're out of the League cup as are you and at least we didn't loose at home to Scunthorpe.
Encouraging because the game against Swansea was a very good effort from our part, especially in the 2nd half. after Utd we have 5 fixtures where we can pick up points; palace, sunderland, west brom, leicester and west ham so yeah i'd say that's pretty encouraging. And why would we ever watch Rovers especially as we'd have to stay up to watch you on the football league show...
Why do you bring the Mightly Rovers into it ?, LET are reporting about BFC. With your assumption of ''picking up easy points against the West Broms'' etc, you need to be careful- they will be fired up to giving you a good beating , as its ''3 points lost'' if teams don’t beat the BFC
Wake up and come to terms with the fact you have no PL players and will struggle against ALL the teams, your season will be over by Mid Dec unless your board spends some cash. Get to the point quickly you have days left to try and rescue your season
erm you made the reference to Rovers - "what games have you been to. The rovers" why else would i mention them?
I think we need to look at the bigger picture here, we knew when we won promotion that we wouldn't be 'betting the ranch' and we knew when we won promotion that each and every game would be a tough game. So what's changed? There needs to be a reality check here, we didn't spend any money last season whilst Leicester and QPR were throwing it around and are continuing to do so and look where they are in the prem.
I wonder how many opinions will change if we beat utd on Saturday.
Over a season you have to have a good squad and a board that will back the manager, you haven’t, and just like last time the board would not back the manager Coyle ,that’s why he left, then the fans called him Judas lol
Unbelievable, and here you are again in the same predicament, why has your club not learnt your lesson yes again ?
its nothing to do with the Rovers.
No it isn't, but at least we have had 2 good managers that have got us promoted, you on the other hand have had 0 good managers unless you count, Allardyce, Ince, Berg, Appleton, Kean, & Bowyer as good managers, more like a comedy gold moment.
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Does anyone other than a miserable doom saying bstrd fan seriously think we're going to get hammered every week? Get real. QPR who we battered are older and even less competent. Leicester won't win a gazillion penalties by falling over. We will be fine.
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[quote][p][bold]Claretcert[/bold] wrote: Does anyone other than a miserable doom saying bstrd fan seriously think we're going to get hammered every week? Get real. QPR who we battered are older and even less competent. Leicester won't win a gazillion penalties by falling over. We will be fine.[/p][/quote]D O W N B Y C H R I S T M A S BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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7:08pm Thu 28 Aug 14

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Does anyone other than a miserable doom saying bstrd fan seriously think we're going to get hammered every week? Get real. QPR who we battered are older and even less competent. Leicester won't win a gazillion penalties by falling over. We will be fine.
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[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claretcert[/bold] wrote: Does anyone other than a miserable doom saying bstrd fan seriously think we're going to get hammered every week? Get real. QPR who we battered are older and even less competent. Leicester won't win a gazillion penalties by falling over. We will be fine.[/p][/quote]D O W N B Y C H R I S T M A S[/p][/quote]How does a team get relegated at Christmas? They are not mathematically relegated if they lose every game. And all relegation procedurally occur at season-end. RobH2O .
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7:11pm Thu 28 Aug 14

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URGENT MESSAGE for Gangsta No. 1 (the artist formerly known as Rob the Drip):

Spell my initials out if you don't want to get into 'trouble'.

The thing is, you won't get into 'trouble' though. WANT TO KNOW WHY?

Because my name is a matter of public record you tormented, tortured soul...

...as is your's and everyone else's. That is why when i posted the name and address of the main anchor at Radio Rovers on these pages in 2012 because he played loud music through the stadium speakers at Ewood Park to drown out protesting Rovers fans that had gathered after a game to protest in The Blackburn End - nothing was done. His name and address are a matter of public record....so go on... i dare you... i double dare you...I TRIPLE DARE YOU.

And don't blather on about IP addresses either because IP addresses give no personal details at all about the owner of the PC; the IP address is simply the number of a specific PC. That's it. No personal details - so that people are protected from fraud and oh yeah... weirdo's like you cyber bullying and threatening people with violence and stalking, so crack on your silly daft tw*t because the only person committing any crime on here is you. Why do you think the previous thread where you made all these cyber bullying threats was closed down?

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[quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claretcert[/bold] wrote: Does anyone other than a miserable doom saying bstrd fan seriously think we're going to get hammered every week? Get real. QPR who we battered are older and even less competent. Leicester won't win a gazillion penalties by falling over. We will be fine.[/p][/quote]D O W N B Y C H R I S T M A S[/p][/quote]How does a team get relegated at Christmas? They are not mathematically relegated if they lose every game. And all relegation procedurally occur at season-end.[/p][/quote]URGENT MESSAGE for Gangsta No. 1 (the artist formerly known as Rob the Drip): Spell my initials out if you don't want to get into 'trouble'. The thing is, you won't get into 'trouble' though. WANT TO KNOW WHY? Because my name is a matter of public record you tormented, tortured soul... ...as is your's and everyone else's. That is why when i posted the name and address of the main anchor at Radio Rovers on these pages in 2012 because he played loud music through the stadium speakers at Ewood Park to drown out protesting Rovers fans that had gathered after a game to protest in The Blackburn End - nothing was done. His name and address are a matter of public record....so go on... i dare you... i double dare you...I TRIPLE DARE YOU. And don't blather on about IP addresses either because IP addresses give no personal details at all about the owner of the PC; the IP address is simply the number of a specific PC. That's it. No personal details - so that people are protected from fraud and oh yeah... weirdo's like you cyber bullying and threatening people with violence and stalking, so crack on your silly daft tw*t because the only person committing any crime on here is you. Why do you think the previous thread where you made all these cyber bullying threats was closed down? Prrrrrrrick! BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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7:11pm Thu 28 Aug 14

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Crispy and Rob the Drip will be there with there Windows Smart Phones.

They love a bit of that.
You lied (yet again) earlier today. You git. Intend to have a little sport before the sword of Damocles sees its rope severed with you underneath it.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Antndec[/bold] wrote: I will show my arse in burnley center if we beat united[/p][/quote]Crispy and Rob the Drip will be there with there Windows Smart Phones. They love a bit of that.[/p][/quote]You lied (yet again) earlier today. You git. Intend to have a little sport before the sword of Damocles sees its rope severed with you underneath it. RobH2O .
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7:13pm Thu 28 Aug 14

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This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
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[quote][p][bold]AnotherPounding4Burn ley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Because the board is yanking everyones chain[/p][/quote]Expound RobH2O .
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7:14pm Thu 28 Aug 14

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He has picked up quite a few players from the bargain basement so far, maybe the board are looking for him to seek out a BOGOF type of player.
As opposed to BOGOF supporters at Ewood who only turn up after entry is run at £10.
[quote][p][bold]Its Only a game boy[/bold] wrote: He has picked up quite a few players from the bargain basement so far, maybe the board are looking for him to seek out a BOGOF type of player.[/p][/quote]As opposed to BOGOF supporters at Ewood who only turn up after entry is run at £10. RobH2O .
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7:26pm Thu 28 Aug 14

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If I could get one message to Sean and one message only. To me you are a great manager and have proven it however that bunch you work with called the board are the problem always have been always will be tight has ducks @rses which are water tight. This board is made up mainly still has the last lot from seasons 2009/10 who took the option when Owen Coyle went to get a clueless buffoon in as replacement because they had no one to compensate with Sheff Weds sacking him through poor run of results that was Brian Laws. Dyche ambition and knowledgeable. Burnley Board UnKnowledgeable unless we talk about Parachute Payments sack them.
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[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy1[/bold] wrote: If I could get one message to Sean and one message only. To me you are a great manager and have proven it however that bunch you work with called the board are the problem always have been always will be tight has ducks @rses which are water tight. This board is made up mainly still has the last lot from seasons 2009/10 who took the option when Owen Coyle went to get a clueless buffoon in as replacement because they had no one to compensate with Sheff Weds sacking him through poor run of results that was Brian Laws. Dyche ambition and knowledgeable. Burnley Board UnKnowledgeable unless we talk about Parachute Payments sack them.[/p][/quote]If i could get one message to 'Sean' it would be this: D O W N B Y C H R I S T M A S[/p][/quote]Urgent Message to you from British Gibraltar. F**k Off. andy1
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8:29pm Thu 28 Aug 14

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Glad I don't get drawn into any discussion with that weird fkr who posts the same things endlessly like anyone except his carers speak to him, and then only because they have to. That said, I feel I almost know this man. Lives alone, violence in the past, alcohol problems, unwaged, anger issues, separated, no contact with children, late middle age/retired, unfulfilled work career of no work or low paid low status jobs, autistic never diagnosed at school, obsessive and sleeps little, overweight, takes very little exercise possible disability, housebound or confines himself to home, poor diet, constipated, dim bstrd. Yeh - he's like every person who the world dislikes. I quite like how the obsession keeps him alive, but I bet he used to fish. And collect stamps. And be beaten regularly. Therapy needed but hey ho the world won't notice if he fails again.
Glad I don't get drawn into any discussion with that weird fkr who posts the same things endlessly like anyone except his carers speak to him, and then only because they have to. That said, I feel I almost know this man. Lives alone, violence in the past, alcohol problems, unwaged, anger issues, separated, no contact with children, late middle age/retired, unfulfilled work career of no work or low paid low status jobs, autistic never diagnosed at school, obsessive and sleeps little, overweight, takes very little exercise possible disability, housebound or confines himself to home, poor diet, constipated, dim bstrd. Yeh - he's like every person who the world dislikes. I quite like how the obsession keeps him alive, but I bet he used to fish. And collect stamps. And be beaten regularly. Therapy needed but hey ho the world won't notice if he fails again. Claretcert
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11:30pm Thu 28 Aug 14

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This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on. owd nick
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This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism".

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club?

Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism". Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club? Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp


ions
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owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism".

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club?

Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.
Don't like it when the boot is on the other foot do you?

As I have said if you want a proper discussion start one.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism". Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club? Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.[/p][/quote]Don't like it when the boot is on the other foot do you? As I have said if you want a proper discussion start one. owd nick
  • Score: -11

12:32am Fri 29 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp


ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism".

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club?

Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.
Also, just to be clear, Allardyce did not "cut and run", he was was sacked; he didn't resign, he didn't walk out on his contract.

Again what we have here by Nick is the use of the language of 'Exceptionalism' - by which I mean that anyone that does not agree with the Happy-Clapper narrative is labelled as not being a "proper" or "real" fan.

I genuinely find this line of attack interesting as i'd never really heard it before 2012, when Rovers were relegated. Never in all my years of reading/listening to football discussion/debate between any group of fans have i heard that kind of language so it's a very recent thing and it started with Rovers "fans" that support the Venkys during the 2011-2012 relegation season. It continues to this day as demonstrated above. Again, i never ever see this line of attack used anywhere but by Rovers "fans" that continue to support the Venkys. Yet, as i mentioned earlier, you present yourselves as the voices of moderation but are extremely intolerant. Also, i never - ever - hear those Rovers fans that are very concerned about the future of the club; the ones that genuinely care about its soul and the very fabric of it and who see themselves as not just fans but custodians for future generation accuse any one of not being a "real" or "proper" fan.

Neither do I hear/read them smearing and slandering their opponents. Yet the slight of hand that is performed by people like you through imposing your own narrative - which is that those who oppose everything all the Venkys et al have done are intolerant, violent, unintelligent, immature and boo the team, want every manager sacked and want the team to lose has gained some traction.

You Nick always smear Rovers fans and always like to place yourself on a higher moral ground; no one liked the new shirt - but you did; no one liked the new shirt sponsor - but you did; everyone wants B*rnley relegated - but you don't; everyone wants B*rnleyto lose every game - but you don't. You are 'exceptional', 'above it all', 'better' than every one else.

You were even slagging a Rovers fan off that sat near you recently and said you hoped he wouldn't sit near you again. Yet he might be a season ticket holder which you are not. Within hours of Rovers' first game against Cardiff you were on here slagging off the support.

You distinguish yourself as a Rovers fan not by your love of the club and a sense of solidarity with your fellow Rovers fans but in how you distance yourself from them and show solidarity with B*rnley. I notice Pembina, another Happy-Clapper is the same.

Read any Happy-Clapper post and it's always the same formula; blame the fans, make a distinction between "real" "proper" fans, portray the Venkys as victims and smear anyone like JC who has the temerity to intelligently discuss in fine detail the financial catastrophe and tidal wave of debt that is possibly about to engulf the club.

You are a disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism". Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club? Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.[/p][/quote]Also, just to be clear, Allardyce did not "cut and run", he was was sacked; he didn't resign, he didn't walk out on his contract. Again what we have here by Nick is the use of the language of 'Exceptionalism' - by which I mean that anyone that does not agree with the Happy-Clapper narrative is labelled as not being a "proper" or "real" fan. I genuinely find this line of attack interesting as i'd never really heard it before 2012, when Rovers were relegated. Never in all my years of reading/listening to football discussion/debate between any group of fans have i heard that kind of language so it's a very recent thing and it started with Rovers "fans" that support the Venkys during the 2011-2012 relegation season. It continues to this day as demonstrated above. Again, i never ever see this line of attack used anywhere but by Rovers "fans" that continue to support the Venkys. Yet, as i mentioned earlier, you present yourselves as the voices of moderation but are extremely intolerant. Also, i never - ever - hear those Rovers fans that are very concerned about the future of the club; the ones that genuinely care about its soul and the very fabric of it and who see themselves as not just fans but custodians for future generation accuse any one of not being a "real" or "proper" fan. Neither do I hear/read them smearing and slandering their opponents. Yet the slight of hand that is performed by people like you through imposing your own narrative - which is that those who oppose everything all the Venkys et al have done are intolerant, violent, unintelligent, immature and boo the team, want every manager sacked and want the team to lose has gained some traction. You Nick always smear Rovers fans and always like to place yourself on a higher moral ground; no one liked the new shirt - but you did; no one liked the new shirt sponsor - but you did; everyone wants B*rnley relegated - but you don't; everyone wants B*rnleyto lose every game - but you don't. You are 'exceptional', 'above it all', 'better' than every one else. You were even slagging a Rovers fan off that sat near you recently and said you hoped he wouldn't sit near you again. Yet he might be a season ticket holder which you are not. Within hours of Rovers' first game against Cardiff you were on here slagging off the support. You distinguish yourself as a Rovers fan not by your love of the club and a sense of solidarity with your fellow Rovers fans but in how you distance yourself from them and show solidarity with B*rnley. I notice Pembina, another Happy-Clapper is the same. Read any Happy-Clapper post and it's always the same formula; blame the fans, make a distinction between "real" "proper" fans, portray the Venkys as victims and smear anyone like JC who has the temerity to intelligently discuss in fine detail the financial catastrophe and tidal wave of debt that is possibly about to engulf the club. You are a disgrace. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
  • Score: 3

12:50am Fri 29 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

Claretcert wrote:
Glad I don't get drawn into any discussion with that weird fkr who posts the same things endlessly like anyone except his carers speak to him, and then only because they have to. That said, I feel I almost know this man. Lives alone, violence in the past, alcohol problems, unwaged, anger issues, separated, no contact with children, late middle age/retired, unfulfilled work career of no work or low paid low status jobs, autistic never diagnosed at school, obsessive and sleeps little, overweight, takes very little exercise possible disability, housebound or confines himself to home, poor diet, constipated, dim bstrd. Yeh - he's like every person who the world dislikes. I quite like how the obsession keeps him alive, but I bet he used to fish. And collect stamps. And be beaten regularly. Therapy needed but hey ho the world won't notice if he fails again.
Of course you "feel I almost know this man", what you have just described is what the vast majority of people who use this web site have been saying about you for at least two years - steralc/cleretcert/L
ook Up Blackburn/Super Claret and several others names that you have posted under, sometimes at the same time, from 8am to dgone midnight. Often through the night and wee small hours and then the first on every Rovers article. It's been observed and commented on, even by B*rnley fans who i note often distance themselves from you.

I usually don't even read your posts, I just scroll past them. Even when (and it is rare) that i "reply" to you i've often not bothered to read what you wrote, i just reply 'blind'. However, when i do read them (and it is rare) i laugh my c*ck off at how angry you are. The intense thought process's that go into your posts. The amount of time and effort that goes in to them - the incoherent maniacal anger. Reading your posts is like scatology. I'm glad i read your previous post though. The biting irony of what you wrote was astounding.

Every long angry comment you post is a moral victory for me.
[quote][p][bold]Claretcert[/bold] wrote: Glad I don't get drawn into any discussion with that weird fkr who posts the same things endlessly like anyone except his carers speak to him, and then only because they have to. That said, I feel I almost know this man. Lives alone, violence in the past, alcohol problems, unwaged, anger issues, separated, no contact with children, late middle age/retired, unfulfilled work career of no work or low paid low status jobs, autistic never diagnosed at school, obsessive and sleeps little, overweight, takes very little exercise possible disability, housebound or confines himself to home, poor diet, constipated, dim bstrd. Yeh - he's like every person who the world dislikes. I quite like how the obsession keeps him alive, but I bet he used to fish. And collect stamps. And be beaten regularly. Therapy needed but hey ho the world won't notice if he fails again.[/p][/quote]Of course you "feel I almost know this man", what you have just described is what the vast majority of people who use this web site have been saying about you for at least two years - steralc/cleretcert/L ook Up Blackburn/Super Claret and several others names that you have posted under, sometimes at the same time, from 8am to dgone midnight. Often through the night and wee small hours and then the first on every Rovers article. It's been observed and commented on, even by B*rnley fans who i note often distance themselves from you. I usually don't even read your posts, I just scroll past them. Even when (and it is rare) that i "reply" to you i've often not bothered to read what you wrote, i just reply 'blind'. However, when i do read them (and it is rare) i laugh my c*ck off at how angry you are. The intense thought process's that go into your posts. The amount of time and effort that goes in to them - the incoherent maniacal anger. Reading your posts is like scatology. I'm glad i read your previous post though. The biting irony of what you wrote was astounding. Every long angry comment you post is a moral victory for me. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
  • Score: 3

1:21am Fri 29 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp

ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp



ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism".

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club?

Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.
Don't like it when the boot is on the other foot do you?

As I have said if you want a proper discussion start one.
Says the man that started life as a Manchester United fan before deciding to stand on the slopes of Ewood Park in the early 1960's. At least you got to see Rovers in Division 1, I had to wait until 1992 and even then i barely got on the ground because people like you who didn't have the club in their blood snapped up all the tickets whilst fans like me that had seen the in Division 3 were alienated and locked out.

Genuine football fans understand that the game is about opinions but you don't. That's because you represent the new breed of "fans" - consumers. You can't understand it when some one has an opinion that differs from your own - so you say that they are insolent, arrogant and violent - when they are just genuine fans engaging in that time honoured football fan tradition of exchanging opinions. And yes, some of them might be talking utter b*llocks - most football fans do - but that's football and that's football fans.

Even now, you're thieving the moral high ground with your "boot on the other foot" quip.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism". Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club? Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.[/p][/quote]Don't like it when the boot is on the other foot do you? As I have said if you want a proper discussion start one.[/p][/quote]Says the man that started life as a Manchester United fan before deciding to stand on the slopes of Ewood Park in the early 1960's. At least you got to see Rovers in Division 1, I had to wait until 1992 and even then i barely got on the ground because people like you who didn't have the club in their blood snapped up all the tickets whilst fans like me that had seen the in Division 3 were alienated and locked out. Genuine football fans understand that the game is about opinions but you don't. That's because you represent the new breed of "fans" - consumers. You can't understand it when some one has an opinion that differs from your own - so you say that they are insolent, arrogant and violent - when they are just genuine fans engaging in that time honoured football fan tradition of exchanging opinions. And yes, some of them might be talking utter b*llocks - most football fans do - but that's football and that's football fans. Even now, you're thieving the moral high ground with your "boot on the other foot" quip. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
  • Score: 3

2:39am Fri 29 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
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Claretcert wrote:
Glad I don't get drawn into any discussion with that weird fkr who posts the same things endlessly like anyone except his carers speak to him, and then only because they have to. That said, I feel I almost know this man. Lives alone, violence in the past, alcohol problems, unwaged, anger issues, separated, no contact with children, late middle age/retired, unfulfilled work career of no work or low paid low status jobs, autistic never diagnosed at school, obsessive and sleeps little, overweight, takes very little exercise possible disability, housebound or confines himself to home, poor diet, constipated, dim bstrd. Yeh - he's like every person who the world dislikes. I quite like how the obsession keeps him alive, but I bet he used to fish. And collect stamps. And be beaten regularly. Therapy needed but hey ho the world won't notice if he fails again.
Of course you "feel I almost know this man", what you have just described is what the vast majority of people who use this web site have been saying about you for at least two years - steralc/cleretcert/L

ook Up Blackburn/Super Claret and several others names that you have posted under, sometimes at the same time, from 8am to dgone midnight. Often through the night and wee small hours and then the first on every Rovers article. It's been observed and commented on, even by B*rnley fans who i note often distance themselves from you.

I usually don't even read your posts, I just scroll past them. Even when (and it is rare) that i "reply" to you i've often not bothered to read what you wrote, i just reply 'blind'. However, when i do read them (and it is rare) i laugh my c*ck off at how angry you are. The intense thought process's that go into your posts. The amount of time and effort that goes in to them - the incoherent maniacal anger. Reading your posts is like scatology. I'm glad i read your previous post though. The biting irony of what you wrote was astounding.

Every long angry comment you post is a moral victory for me.
Its a shame you don't practice what you preach, you sir have no morals. Enough said.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claretcert[/bold] wrote: Glad I don't get drawn into any discussion with that weird fkr who posts the same things endlessly like anyone except his carers speak to him, and then only because they have to. That said, I feel I almost know this man. Lives alone, violence in the past, alcohol problems, unwaged, anger issues, separated, no contact with children, late middle age/retired, unfulfilled work career of no work or low paid low status jobs, autistic never diagnosed at school, obsessive and sleeps little, overweight, takes very little exercise possible disability, housebound or confines himself to home, poor diet, constipated, dim bstrd. Yeh - he's like every person who the world dislikes. I quite like how the obsession keeps him alive, but I bet he used to fish. And collect stamps. And be beaten regularly. Therapy needed but hey ho the world won't notice if he fails again.[/p][/quote]Of course you "feel I almost know this man", what you have just described is what the vast majority of people who use this web site have been saying about you for at least two years - steralc/cleretcert/L ook Up Blackburn/Super Claret and several others names that you have posted under, sometimes at the same time, from 8am to dgone midnight. Often through the night and wee small hours and then the first on every Rovers article. It's been observed and commented on, even by B*rnley fans who i note often distance themselves from you. I usually don't even read your posts, I just scroll past them. Even when (and it is rare) that i "reply" to you i've often not bothered to read what you wrote, i just reply 'blind'. However, when i do read them (and it is rare) i laugh my c*ck off at how angry you are. The intense thought process's that go into your posts. The amount of time and effort that goes in to them - the incoherent maniacal anger. Reading your posts is like scatology. I'm glad i read your previous post though. The biting irony of what you wrote was astounding. Every long angry comment you post is a moral victory for me.[/p][/quote]Its a shame you don't practice what you preach, you sir have no morals. Enough said. mjp 53
  • Score: -4

2:44am Fri 29 Aug 14

mjp 53 says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp


ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp




ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism".

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club?

Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.
Don't like it when the boot is on the other foot do you?

As I have said if you want a proper discussion start one.
Says the man that started life as a Manchester United fan before deciding to stand on the slopes of Ewood Park in the early 1960's. At least you got to see Rovers in Division 1, I had to wait until 1992 and even then i barely got on the ground because people like you who didn't have the club in their blood snapped up all the tickets whilst fans like me that had seen the in Division 3 were alienated and locked out.

Genuine football fans understand that the game is about opinions but you don't. That's because you represent the new breed of "fans" - consumers. You can't understand it when some one has an opinion that differs from your own - so you say that they are insolent, arrogant and violent - when they are just genuine fans engaging in that time honoured football fan tradition of exchanging opinions. And yes, some of them might be talking utter b*llocks - most football fans do - but that's football and that's football fans.

Even now, you're thieving the moral high ground with your "boot on the other foot" quip.
There you go again with morals, you don't have any, and whilst we are talking boots on other feet, how about somebody putting there size elevens right up your backside and sending you over the pennines. Whilst youre over there I hear Leeds are looking for a new manager, what a great addition you could be for them.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism". Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club? Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.[/p][/quote]Don't like it when the boot is on the other foot do you? As I have said if you want a proper discussion start one.[/p][/quote]Says the man that started life as a Manchester United fan before deciding to stand on the slopes of Ewood Park in the early 1960's. At least you got to see Rovers in Division 1, I had to wait until 1992 and even then i barely got on the ground because people like you who didn't have the club in their blood snapped up all the tickets whilst fans like me that had seen the in Division 3 were alienated and locked out. Genuine football fans understand that the game is about opinions but you don't. That's because you represent the new breed of "fans" - consumers. You can't understand it when some one has an opinion that differs from your own - so you say that they are insolent, arrogant and violent - when they are just genuine fans engaging in that time honoured football fan tradition of exchanging opinions. And yes, some of them might be talking utter b*llocks - most football fans do - but that's football and that's football fans. Even now, you're thieving the moral high ground with your "boot on the other foot" quip.[/p][/quote]There you go again with morals, you don't have any, and whilst we are talking boots on other feet, how about somebody putting there size elevens right up your backside and sending you over the pennines. Whilst youre over there I hear Leeds are looking for a new manager, what a great addition you could be for them. mjp 53
  • Score: -8

3:52am Fri 29 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

mjp 53 wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp

ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp



ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp





ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism".

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club?

Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.
Don't like it when the boot is on the other foot do you?

As I have said if you want a proper discussion start one.
Says the man that started life as a Manchester United fan before deciding to stand on the slopes of Ewood Park in the early 1960's. At least you got to see Rovers in Division 1, I had to wait until 1992 and even then i barely got on the ground because people like you who didn't have the club in their blood snapped up all the tickets whilst fans like me that had seen the in Division 3 were alienated and locked out.

Genuine football fans understand that the game is about opinions but you don't. That's because you represent the new breed of "fans" - consumers. You can't understand it when some one has an opinion that differs from your own - so you say that they are insolent, arrogant and violent - when they are just genuine fans engaging in that time honoured football fan tradition of exchanging opinions. And yes, some of them might be talking utter b*llocks - most football fans do - but that's football and that's football fans.

Even now, you're thieving the moral high ground with your "boot on the other foot" quip.
There you go again with morals, you don't have any, and whilst we are talking boots on other feet, how about somebody putting there size elevens right up your backside and sending you over the pennines. Whilst youre over there I hear Leeds are looking for a new manager, what a great addition you could be for them.
Funny you should say that.

Dyche for Leeds?
[quote][p][bold]mjp 53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism". Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club? Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.[/p][/quote]Don't like it when the boot is on the other foot do you? As I have said if you want a proper discussion start one.[/p][/quote]Says the man that started life as a Manchester United fan before deciding to stand on the slopes of Ewood Park in the early 1960's. At least you got to see Rovers in Division 1, I had to wait until 1992 and even then i barely got on the ground because people like you who didn't have the club in their blood snapped up all the tickets whilst fans like me that had seen the in Division 3 were alienated and locked out. Genuine football fans understand that the game is about opinions but you don't. That's because you represent the new breed of "fans" - consumers. You can't understand it when some one has an opinion that differs from your own - so you say that they are insolent, arrogant and violent - when they are just genuine fans engaging in that time honoured football fan tradition of exchanging opinions. And yes, some of them might be talking utter b*llocks - most football fans do - but that's football and that's football fans. Even now, you're thieving the moral high ground with your "boot on the other foot" quip.[/p][/quote]There you go again with morals, you don't have any, and whilst we are talking boots on other feet, how about somebody putting there size elevens right up your backside and sending you over the pennines. Whilst youre over there I hear Leeds are looking for a new manager, what a great addition you could be for them.[/p][/quote]Funny you should say that. Dyche for Leeds? BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
  • Score: 1

8:13am Fri 29 Aug 14

Crispy Bacon says...

owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp

ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Well said Nick. This odious bottom feeder is the true cancerous tumour of these forums.

He drags negativity around with him like his bad smell and is universally despised - just look at his thumbs down for proof. He's despised by Burnley and Blackburn fans alike and has been doing this for five years to my knowledge, probably longer, under a series of even more desperate names. Each name change an admission of the failure of his last one whereas the decent people always maintain their original name.

In his bitter and twisted 'mind' two wrongs make a right so the fact that the so called Burnley fan haunts the Blackburn pages with his negativity gives this serial name changer grounds to do the same. Thing is, he's so schizophrenic, it really wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it turned out to be one and the same life form.

Since he's a great uniting force for both sets of fans, we should put rivalries to one side to get rid of them simply by ignoring their deranged nonsense. It might be tempting to 'put them in their place' but since they are so monumentally stupid, they won't accept they've lost the argument and will still prattle on anyway.

All decent fans of both clubs should stand together to boot these parasitic, unemployable benefit scroungers out of existence by the simple expedient of clanking the bunts (Sp). If I were you, I'd go no further in letting him drag you down since it's obvious to anyone who can read that you've beaten him out of sight in your contretemps with him. Accept your victory and walk away dignity intact.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Well said Nick. This odious bottom feeder is the true cancerous tumour of these forums. He drags negativity around with him like his bad smell and is universally despised - just look at his thumbs down for proof. He's despised by Burnley and Blackburn fans alike and has been doing this for five years to my knowledge, probably longer, under a series of even more desperate names. Each name change an admission of the failure of his last one whereas the decent people always maintain their original name. In his bitter and twisted 'mind' two wrongs make a right so the fact that the so called Burnley fan haunts the Blackburn pages with his negativity gives this serial name changer grounds to do the same. Thing is, he's so schizophrenic, it really wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it turned out to be one and the same life form. Since he's a great uniting force for both sets of fans, we should put rivalries to one side to get rid of them simply by ignoring their deranged nonsense. It might be tempting to 'put them in their place' but since they are so monumentally stupid, they won't accept they've lost the argument and will still prattle on anyway. All decent fans of both clubs should stand together to boot these parasitic, unemployable benefit scroungers out of existence by the simple expedient of clanking the bunts (Sp). If I were you, I'd go no further in letting him drag you down since it's obvious to anyone who can read that you've beaten him out of sight in your contretemps with him. Accept your victory and walk away dignity intact. Crispy Bacon
  • Score: -11

8:16am Fri 29 Aug 14

Crispy Bacon says...

Claretcert wrote:
Glad I don't get drawn into any discussion with that weird fkr who posts the same things endlessly like anyone except his carers speak to him, and then only because they have to. That said, I feel I almost know this man. Lives alone, violence in the past, alcohol problems, unwaged, anger issues, separated, no contact with children, late middle age/retired, unfulfilled work career of no work or low paid low status jobs, autistic never diagnosed at school, obsessive and sleeps little, overweight, takes very little exercise possible disability, housebound or confines himself to home, poor diet, constipated, dim bstrd. Yeh - he's like every person who the world dislikes. I quite like how the obsession keeps him alive, but I bet he used to fish. And collect stamps. And be beaten regularly. Therapy needed but hey ho the world won't notice if he fails again.
You missed sexual inadequacy. (That's secshual if it's blanked out BTW). A classic motivator for endless bitterness.
[quote][p][bold]Claretcert[/bold] wrote: Glad I don't get drawn into any discussion with that weird fkr who posts the same things endlessly like anyone except his carers speak to him, and then only because they have to. That said, I feel I almost know this man. Lives alone, violence in the past, alcohol problems, unwaged, anger issues, separated, no contact with children, late middle age/retired, unfulfilled work career of no work or low paid low status jobs, autistic never diagnosed at school, obsessive and sleeps little, overweight, takes very little exercise possible disability, housebound or confines himself to home, poor diet, constipated, dim bstrd. Yeh - he's like every person who the world dislikes. I quite like how the obsession keeps him alive, but I bet he used to fish. And collect stamps. And be beaten regularly. Therapy needed but hey ho the world won't notice if he fails again.[/p][/quote]You missed sexual inadequacy. (That's secshual if it's blanked out BTW). A classic motivator for endless bitterness. Crispy Bacon
  • Score: -10

9:16am Fri 29 Aug 14

owd nick says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp

ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp



ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism".

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club?

Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.
Also, just to be clear, Allardyce did not "cut and run", he was was sacked; he didn't resign, he didn't walk out on his contract.

Again what we have here by Nick is the use of the language of 'Exceptionalism' - by which I mean that anyone that does not agree with the Happy-Clapper narrative is labelled as not being a "proper" or "real" fan.

I genuinely find this line of attack interesting as i'd never really heard it before 2012, when Rovers were relegated. Never in all my years of reading/listening to football discussion/debate between any group of fans have i heard that kind of language so it's a very recent thing and it started with Rovers "fans" that support the Venkys during the 2011-2012 relegation season. It continues to this day as demonstrated above. Again, i never ever see this line of attack used anywhere but by Rovers "fans" that continue to support the Venkys. Yet, as i mentioned earlier, you present yourselves as the voices of moderation but are extremely intolerant. Also, i never - ever - hear those Rovers fans that are very concerned about the future of the club; the ones that genuinely care about its soul and the very fabric of it and who see themselves as not just fans but custodians for future generation accuse any one of not being a "real" or "proper" fan.

Neither do I hear/read them smearing and slandering their opponents. Yet the slight of hand that is performed by people like you through imposing your own narrative - which is that those who oppose everything all the Venkys et al have done are intolerant, violent, unintelligent, immature and boo the team, want every manager sacked and want the team to lose has gained some traction.

You Nick always smear Rovers fans and always like to place yourself on a higher moral ground; no one liked the new shirt - but you did; no one liked the new shirt sponsor - but you did; everyone wants B*rnley relegated - but you don't; everyone wants B*rnleyto lose every game - but you don't. You are 'exceptional', 'above it all', 'better' than every one else.

You were even slagging a Rovers fan off that sat near you recently and said you hoped he wouldn't sit near you again. Yet he might be a season ticket holder which you are not. Within hours of Rovers' first game against Cardiff you were on here slagging off the support.

You distinguish yourself as a Rovers fan not by your love of the club and a sense of solidarity with your fellow Rovers fans but in how you distance yourself from them and show solidarity with B*rnley. I notice Pembina, another Happy-Clapper is the same.

Read any Happy-Clapper post and it's always the same formula; blame the fans, make a distinction between "real" "proper" fans, portray the Venkys as victims and smear anyone like JC who has the temerity to intelligently discuss in fine detail the financial catastrophe and tidal wave of debt that is possibly about to engulf the club.

You are a disgrace.
So that's what you regard as a decent conversation?

The only Rovers fans I have ever really slagged off was the BRAG member who at one particular game, after tirade after tirade of abusive language I asked him to calm it down a bit because there were youngsters around, including my daughter. To which I got a round of applause and general agreement.

His reply? I paraphrase "Go and crawl under your stone you f*****g P**ki loving c**t and I hope you get f*****g cancer". At the time I was undergoing tests for testicular cancer, and my daughter knew.

So put yourself in her position at the time and try to understand why I distrust BRAG almost as much as I distrust Venky's, I won't use the word hate in either context, but it's close.

Just because I voice an opinion that doesn't agree with yours or any other fan doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong, or that I am "slagging Rovers fans off", it's simply an opinion, nothing more.

For instance we simply like the new Rovers shirts, my daughter has both, I have the blue and white, you don't like them, so what? Has anybody died?

Unlike some Rovers I am not screwed up by hatred, I really don't have time for it and have better things to do with my time and my life, and whether you like that or not isn't my problem.

As I have said many times to you in your various guises if you want to have a decent discussion on any subject be my guest, but until you do I won't be replying to you, even if you change your ID again, I can spot you a mile off.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism". Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club? Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.[/p][/quote]Also, just to be clear, Allardyce did not "cut and run", he was was sacked; he didn't resign, he didn't walk out on his contract. Again what we have here by Nick is the use of the language of 'Exceptionalism' - by which I mean that anyone that does not agree with the Happy-Clapper narrative is labelled as not being a "proper" or "real" fan. I genuinely find this line of attack interesting as i'd never really heard it before 2012, when Rovers were relegated. Never in all my years of reading/listening to football discussion/debate between any group of fans have i heard that kind of language so it's a very recent thing and it started with Rovers "fans" that support the Venkys during the 2011-2012 relegation season. It continues to this day as demonstrated above. Again, i never ever see this line of attack used anywhere but by Rovers "fans" that continue to support the Venkys. Yet, as i mentioned earlier, you present yourselves as the voices of moderation but are extremely intolerant. Also, i never - ever - hear those Rovers fans that are very concerned about the future of the club; the ones that genuinely care about its soul and the very fabric of it and who see themselves as not just fans but custodians for future generation accuse any one of not being a "real" or "proper" fan. Neither do I hear/read them smearing and slandering their opponents. Yet the slight of hand that is performed by people like you through imposing your own narrative - which is that those who oppose everything all the Venkys et al have done are intolerant, violent, unintelligent, immature and boo the team, want every manager sacked and want the team to lose has gained some traction. You Nick always smear Rovers fans and always like to place yourself on a higher moral ground; no one liked the new shirt - but you did; no one liked the new shirt sponsor - but you did; everyone wants B*rnley relegated - but you don't; everyone wants B*rnleyto lose every game - but you don't. You are 'exceptional', 'above it all', 'better' than every one else. You were even slagging a Rovers fan off that sat near you recently and said you hoped he wouldn't sit near you again. Yet he might be a season ticket holder which you are not. Within hours of Rovers' first game against Cardiff you were on here slagging off the support. You distinguish yourself as a Rovers fan not by your love of the club and a sense of solidarity with your fellow Rovers fans but in how you distance yourself from them and show solidarity with B*rnley. I notice Pembina, another Happy-Clapper is the same. Read any Happy-Clapper post and it's always the same formula; blame the fans, make a distinction between "real" "proper" fans, portray the Venkys as victims and smear anyone like JC who has the temerity to intelligently discuss in fine detail the financial catastrophe and tidal wave of debt that is possibly about to engulf the club. You are a disgrace.[/p][/quote]So that's what you regard as a decent conversation? The only Rovers fans I have ever really slagged off was the BRAG member who at one particular game, after tirade after tirade of abusive language I asked him to calm it down a bit because there were youngsters around, including my daughter. To which I got a round of applause and general agreement. His reply? I paraphrase "Go and crawl under your stone you f*****g P**ki loving c**t and I hope you get f*****g cancer". At the time I was undergoing tests for testicular cancer, and my daughter knew. So put yourself in her position at the time and try to understand why I distrust BRAG almost as much as I distrust Venky's, I won't use the word hate in either context, but it's close. Just because I voice an opinion that doesn't agree with yours or any other fan doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong, or that I am "slagging Rovers fans off", it's simply an opinion, nothing more. For instance we simply like the new Rovers shirts, my daughter has both, I have the blue and white, you don't like them, so what? Has anybody died? Unlike some Rovers I am not screwed up by hatred, I really don't have time for it and have better things to do with my time and my life, and whether you like that or not isn't my problem. As I have said many times to you in your various guises if you want to have a decent discussion on any subject be my guest, but until you do I won't be replying to you, even if you change your ID again, I can spot you a mile off. owd nick
  • Score: -5

9:19am Fri 29 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

Another player that we wont get - £1.5m offered for Richard Keogh.
Another player that we wont get - £1.5m offered for Richard Keogh. Its Only a game boy
  • Score: 14

9:21am Fri 29 Aug 14

owd nick says...

And belated apologies to real Burnley fans for allowing it to wind me up and destroy what was potentially a decent bit of discussion and banter.

I have had a few particularly testing days, notably yesterday and was caught off guard.

Won't happen again.
And belated apologies to real Burnley fans for allowing it to wind me up and destroy what was potentially a decent bit of discussion and banter. I have had a few particularly testing days, notably yesterday and was caught off guard. Won't happen again. owd nick
  • Score: -5

2:23pm Fri 29 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

Crispy Bacon wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp


ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Well said Nick. This odious bottom feeder is the true cancerous tumour of these forums.

He drags negativity around with him like his bad smell and is universally despised - just look at his thumbs down for proof. He's despised by Burnley and Blackburn fans alike and has been doing this for five years to my knowledge, probably longer, under a series of even more desperate names. Each name change an admission of the failure of his last one whereas the decent people always maintain their original name.

In his bitter and twisted 'mind' two wrongs make a right so the fact that the so called Burnley fan haunts the Blackburn pages with his negativity gives this serial name changer grounds to do the same. Thing is, he's so schizophrenic, it really wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it turned out to be one and the same life form.

Since he's a great uniting force for both sets of fans, we should put rivalries to one side to get rid of them simply by ignoring their deranged nonsense. It might be tempting to 'put them in their place' but since they are so monumentally stupid, they won't accept they've lost the argument and will still prattle on anyway.

All decent fans of both clubs should stand together to boot these parasitic, unemployable benefit scroungers out of existence by the simple expedient of clanking the bunts (Sp). If I were you, I'd go no further in letting him drag you down since it's obvious to anyone who can read that you've beaten him out of sight in your contretemps with him. Accept your victory and walk away dignity intact.
That's one of the "Gayest" posts i've ever read.
[quote][p][bold]Crispy Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Well said Nick. This odious bottom feeder is the true cancerous tumour of these forums. He drags negativity around with him like his bad smell and is universally despised - just look at his thumbs down for proof. He's despised by Burnley and Blackburn fans alike and has been doing this for five years to my knowledge, probably longer, under a series of even more desperate names. Each name change an admission of the failure of his last one whereas the decent people always maintain their original name. In his bitter and twisted 'mind' two wrongs make a right so the fact that the so called Burnley fan haunts the Blackburn pages with his negativity gives this serial name changer grounds to do the same. Thing is, he's so schizophrenic, it really wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it turned out to be one and the same life form. Since he's a great uniting force for both sets of fans, we should put rivalries to one side to get rid of them simply by ignoring their deranged nonsense. It might be tempting to 'put them in their place' but since they are so monumentally stupid, they won't accept they've lost the argument and will still prattle on anyway. All decent fans of both clubs should stand together to boot these parasitic, unemployable benefit scroungers out of existence by the simple expedient of clanking the bunts (Sp). If I were you, I'd go no further in letting him drag you down since it's obvious to anyone who can read that you've beaten him out of sight in your contretemps with him. Accept your victory and walk away dignity intact.[/p][/quote]That's one of the "Gayest" posts i've ever read. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
  • Score: -9

2:38pm Fri 29 Aug 14

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp

ions
wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp


ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp




ions
wrote:
owd nick wrote:
RobH2O . wrote:
This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m

We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k.

If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?
Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science.

Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it.

Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's.

I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up.

Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed.

The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that.

But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size.

I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference.

What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late.

And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better.

The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.
We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.
We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron.

I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist.

Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.
Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism".

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club?

Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.
Also, just to be clear, Allardyce did not "cut and run", he was was sacked; he didn't resign, he didn't walk out on his contract.

Again what we have here by Nick is the use of the language of 'Exceptionalism' - by which I mean that anyone that does not agree with the Happy-Clapper narrative is labelled as not being a "proper" or "real" fan.

I genuinely find this line of attack interesting as i'd never really heard it before 2012, when Rovers were relegated. Never in all my years of reading/listening to football discussion/debate between any group of fans have i heard that kind of language so it's a very recent thing and it started with Rovers "fans" that support the Venkys during the 2011-2012 relegation season. It continues to this day as demonstrated above. Again, i never ever see this line of attack used anywhere but by Rovers "fans" that continue to support the Venkys. Yet, as i mentioned earlier, you present yourselves as the voices of moderation but are extremely intolerant. Also, i never - ever - hear those Rovers fans that are very concerned about the future of the club; the ones that genuinely care about its soul and the very fabric of it and who see themselves as not just fans but custodians for future generation accuse any one of not being a "real" or "proper" fan.

Neither do I hear/read them smearing and slandering their opponents. Yet the slight of hand that is performed by people like you through imposing your own narrative - which is that those who oppose everything all the Venkys et al have done are intolerant, violent, unintelligent, immature and boo the team, want every manager sacked and want the team to lose has gained some traction.

You Nick always smear Rovers fans and always like to place yourself on a higher moral ground; no one liked the new shirt - but you did; no one liked the new shirt sponsor - but you did; everyone wants B*rnley relegated - but you don't; everyone wants B*rnleyto lose every game - but you don't. You are 'exceptional', 'above it all', 'better' than every one else.

You were even slagging a Rovers fan off that sat near you recently and said you hoped he wouldn't sit near you again. Yet he might be a season ticket holder which you are not. Within hours of Rovers' first game against Cardiff you were on here slagging off the support.

You distinguish yourself as a Rovers fan not by your love of the club and a sense of solidarity with your fellow Rovers fans but in how you distance yourself from them and show solidarity with B*rnley. I notice Pembina, another Happy-Clapper is the same.

Read any Happy-Clapper post and it's always the same formula; blame the fans, make a distinction between "real" "proper" fans, portray the Venkys as victims and smear anyone like JC who has the temerity to intelligently discuss in fine detail the financial catastrophe and tidal wave of debt that is possibly about to engulf the club.

You are a disgrace.
So that's what you regard as a decent conversation?

The only Rovers fans I have ever really slagged off was the BRAG member who at one particular game, after tirade after tirade of abusive language I asked him to calm it down a bit because there were youngsters around, including my daughter. To which I got a round of applause and general agreement.

His reply? I paraphrase "Go and crawl under your stone you f*****g P**ki loving c**t and I hope you get f*****g cancer". At the time I was undergoing tests for testicular cancer, and my daughter knew.

So put yourself in her position at the time and try to understand why I distrust BRAG almost as much as I distrust Venky's, I won't use the word hate in either context, but it's close.

Just because I voice an opinion that doesn't agree with yours or any other fan doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong, or that I am "slagging Rovers fans off", it's simply an opinion, nothing more.

For instance we simply like the new Rovers shirts, my daughter has both, I have the blue and white, you don't like them, so what? Has anybody died?

Unlike some Rovers I am not screwed up by hatred, I really don't have time for it and have better things to do with my time and my life, and whether you like that or not isn't my problem.

As I have said many times to you in your various guises if you want to have a decent discussion on any subject be my guest, but until you do I won't be replying to you, even if you change your ID again, I can spot you a mile off.
Firstly, I am not and have never been a member of BRAG. What your anecdote has to do with me only you know. I really don't know what to say. What do you want me to say? However, it does seem that you are using your experience with what sounds like one particularly vile and vulgar individual, to what? Smear all fans that protested/dislike/di
strust the Venkys.

Not all fans that object to the Venkys are organised or members of a group. They're like me, just individuals.

And for what it's worth, BRAG sold out. They were given offices at Ewood Park and they dissapeared into them never to be heard of again. It's a classic tactic. For example, in the early '80's when black and white working-class youth rose up against police brutality, racism and Thatcherism, some of the young leaders of those uprising were bought off with cushy council jobs/community leader jobs etc with funding/budgets and career paths. It's what corporate people in authority do - they buy people off by giving then a stake in the 'system', so to speak. BRAG went for it, another political term for that is 'opportunism' and is particularly rife on the so-called "far left" of English politics; people say populist radical things but it's not so much what they say - it's what they don't say.

As for the shirt - actually, if you will recall - i posted quite a long defence of the shirt and even shirt sponsor - and backed you up on it. You are quite entitled to like it. Taste is a very subjective thing.

As for "properly discussing" - my last 3 or 4 posts have been 'proper' but there you go again, you tell me to engage in 'proper' discussion but when i do you tell me you won't speak to me. You are full of contradictions and that is the Happy-Clapper way.

You're a false prophet.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O .[/bold] wrote: This is not making sense. You make a bid of £5m for Deeney. You make a bid of £2m for Dawson. You make a bid of £4m for Landsbury. So, one forward, one defender and one midfielder, total offers of £11m We've bought Jutkiewicz for £2.25m (with add ons), Kightly for £1.5m, Sordell for £600k and Ward for £400k. If all the targets had been landed, the total spent would have been £15.75m. Dyche was reported to have a budget of £16m at the start of the window. Why have we not been able to spend £11m in the market?[/p][/quote]Rob, sorry mate it ain't rocket science. Other clubs, both in the PL and lower down are offering much more money to club and player and basically gazumping you, and unless your board release more funds and make an attempt to stay up you have had it. Your board also give the impression that while they hope to stay up relegation wouldn't be all that bad, that is easily transmitted to players who won't want it on their CV's. I know I extract the urine a bit but with me it's always done tongue in cheek, but I would actually hate to see you hammered week after week because you can't afford to buy players that might just help you stay up. Like us you don't have a large enough fanbase to sustain yourself at the higher level without the financial benefits simply being in the PL brings and because of this I understand your boards lack of investment, look at the deep **** we are in because we threw money at trying to stay up and failed. The money you earn from finishing in the bottom 3 will sustain you for 4 possibly 5 years in the championship, and you will be run correctly, no doubt about that. But if you could finish 17 then you have your foot on the bottom rung and that gives you another season in the PL and the financial benefits of that would be immeasurable to a club your size. I think your board are missing a trick here, yes they want to stay up but they are gambling, they could easily sacrifice one of those 4 or 5 years "safety" and give Dyche another £20 million to spend now, that could make all the difference. What I suspect is happening is they are waiting until the next window opens to see how things stand, that could be way too late. And much as I enjoy extracting the urine that simply isn't fair on the real fans like you who have supported Burnley through thick and thin, they, and you deserve much better. The Championship may be the hardest league in the world to get out of, but the PL is the easiest league in the world to get relegated from, you need to invest to stay up.[/p][/quote]We are where we are because of criminal mismanagement by the Venkys, don't gloss over it. Happy Shopper.[/p][/quote]We are also there because of tossers like you who couldn't get their dicks out of Allardyce's arse when he cut and run you complete and utter moron. I am also talking to a real football fan, even though he supports our greatest rivals, because he cares about his club and doesn't behave like a 5 year old and starts calling people names because they aren't racist. Told you many times if you want a decent, adult discussion on all things Rovers just start one with me, and if you can't do that kindly feck off, I have more respect for the toilet paper I have just wiped my arse on.[/p][/quote]Right. Straight off the bat the fan blame fallacy and "racism". Furthermore, are you seriously saying that Rovers relegation due to Kean, Anderson and the Venkys and BRFC's current financial predicament due to Singh, court case settlements, a string of failed managers, signings, wages, relegation and so and so forth is due to how some Rovers fans felt/thought in their heads after Allardyce was sacked? Is that what your saying? How some football fans thought and felt in their minds about the sacking of a football manager is what has almost destroyed a football club? Moreover you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and again present yourself as the voice of reason when you are in fact very extreme with little to no tolerance of any one that does not agree with you and as if further proof were needed, you criticise me for behaving like a 5 year old - yet your entire post was riddled with foul and abusive language; you started your post with it and ended with it.[/p][/quote]Also, just to be clear, Allardyce did not "cut and run", he was was sacked; he didn't resign, he didn't walk out on his contract. Again what we have here by Nick is the use of the language of 'Exceptionalism' - by which I mean that anyone that does not agree with the Happy-Clapper narrative is labelled as not being a "proper" or "real" fan. I genuinely find this line of attack interesting as i'd never really heard it before 2012, when Rovers were relegated. Never in all my years of reading/listening to football discussion/debate between any group of fans have i heard that kind of language so it's a very recent thing and it started with Rovers "fans" that support the Venkys during the 2011-2012 relegation season. It continues to this day as demonstrated above. Again, i never ever see this line of attack used anywhere but by Rovers "fans" that continue to support the Venkys. Yet, as i mentioned earlier, you present yourselves as the voices of moderation but are extremely intolerant. Also, i never - ever - hear those Rovers fans that are very concerned about the future of the club; the ones that genuinely care about its soul and the very fabric of it and who see themselves as not just fans but custodians for future generation accuse any one of not being a "real" or "proper" fan. Neither do I hear/read them smearing and slandering their opponents. Yet the slight of hand that is performed by people like you through imposing your own narrative - which is that those who oppose everything all the Venkys et al have done are intolerant, violent, unintelligent, immature and boo the team, want every manager sacked and want the team to lose has gained some traction. You Nick always smear Rovers fans and always like to place yourself on a higher moral ground; no one liked the new shirt - but you did; no one liked the new shirt sponsor - but you did; everyone wants B*rnley relegated - but you don't; everyone wants B*rnleyto lose every game - but you don't. You are 'exceptional', 'above it all', 'better' than every one else. You were even slagging a Rovers fan off that sat near you recently and said you hoped he wouldn't sit near you again. Yet he might be a season ticket holder which you are not. Within hours of Rovers' first game against Cardiff you were on here slagging off the support. You distinguish yourself as a Rovers fan not by your love of the club and a sense of solidarity with your fellow Rovers fans but in how you distance yourself from them and show solidarity with B*rnley. I notice Pembina, another Happy-Clapper is the same. Read any Happy-Clapper post and it's always the same formula; blame the fans, make a distinction between "real" "proper" fans, portray the Venkys as victims and smear anyone like JC who has the temerity to intelligently discuss in fine detail the financial catastrophe and tidal wave of debt that is possibly about to engulf the club. You are a disgrace.[/p][/quote]So that's what you regard as a decent conversation? The only Rovers fans I have ever really slagged off was the BRAG member who at one particular game, after tirade after tirade of abusive language I asked him to calm it down a bit because there were youngsters around, including my daughter. To which I got a round of applause and general agreement. His reply? I paraphrase "Go and crawl under your stone you f*****g P**ki loving c**t and I hope you get f*****g cancer". At the time I was undergoing tests for testicular cancer, and my daughter knew. So put yourself in her position at the time and try to understand why I distrust BRAG almost as much as I distrust Venky's, I won't use the word hate in either context, but it's close. Just because I voice an opinion that doesn't agree with yours or any other fan doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong, or that I am "slagging Rovers fans off", it's simply an opinion, nothing more. For instance we simply like the new Rovers shirts, my daughter has both, I have the blue and white, you don't like them, so what? Has anybody died? Unlike some Rovers I am not screwed up by hatred, I really don't have time for it and have better things to do with my time and my life, and whether you like that or not isn't my problem. As I have said many times to you in your various guises if you want to have a decent discussion on any subject be my guest, but until you do I won't be replying to you, even if you change your ID again, I can spot you a mile off.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I am not and have never been a member of BRAG. What your anecdote has to do with me only you know. I really don't know what to say. What do you want me to say? However, it does seem that you are using your experience with what sounds like one particularly vile and vulgar individual, to what? Smear all fans that protested/dislike/di strust the Venkys. Not all fans that object to the Venkys are organised or members of a group. They're like me, just individuals. And for what it's worth, BRAG sold out. They were given offices at Ewood Park and they dissapeared into them never to be heard of again. It's a classic tactic. For example, in the early '80's when black and white working-class youth rose up against police brutality, racism and Thatcherism, some of the young leaders of those uprising were bought off with cushy council jobs/community leader jobs etc with funding/budgets and career paths. It's what corporate people in authority do - they buy people off by giving then a stake in the 'system', so to speak. BRAG went for it, another political term for that is 'opportunism' and is particularly rife on the so-called "far left" of English politics; people say populist radical things but it's not so much what they say - it's what they don't say. As for the shirt - actually, if you will recall - i posted quite a long defence of the shirt and even shirt sponsor - and backed you up on it. You are quite entitled to like it. Taste is a very subjective thing. As for "properly discussing" - my last 3 or 4 posts have been 'proper' but there you go again, you tell me to engage in 'proper' discussion but when i do you tell me you won't speak to me. You are full of contradictions and that is the Happy-Clapper way. You're a false prophet. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions
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