Clarets co-chairman stunned by Championship debts

John Banaszkiewicz (left) celebrates Burnley’s promotion with Brendan Flood, Sean Dyche, Barry Kilby and Mike Garlick

John Banaszkiewicz (left) celebrates Burnley’s promotion with Brendan Flood, Sean Dyche, Barry Kilby and Mike Garlick

First published in Sport This Is Lancashire: Photograph of the Author by , Burnley FC reporter

CLARETS co-chairman John Banaszkiewicz described the Championship’s £1billion debt as “scary”, but added that it served to highlight the value of Burnley’s promotion even more.

A club-by-club guide to Championship finances from 2012/13 figures, printed in The Guardian, has revealed the mounting costs of trying to be competitive, with combined debts of the 24 clubs reaching a 10-figure sum.

Burnley, who posted a pre-tax loss of £7.6m for and net debt of £12.2m for that year, were mid-table in the rankings with a turnover of £15.3million and wage bill of £15.4m – marking them 13th highest in the league in both categories just 12 months before a Premier League place was secured.

Bolton Wanderers topped the spending scale with a turnover of £35m and wage bill of £37.4m both highest in the division, accounting for a staggering pre-tax loss of £50.6m and net debt of £163.8m.

Leicester City, who went up as champions last season, spent significantly more than Burnley on wages (£26.1m), with a turnover of £19.6m.

Ambitious Brighton, who this year missed out on promotion after losing their play-off semi-final with Derby County, had a turnover of £23.4m, with a 90 per cent proportion of that.

In comparison to their peers, Banaszkiewicz believes Burnley’s promotion has taken on even greater significance given their lack of financial clout.

Under Sean Dyche, Burnley have spent just £450,000 up front on player trading, with Ashley Barnes bought from Brighton in January.

“It makes it an even bigger achievement,” said Banaszkiewicz.

“The figures are a year old but it’s quite a good summary and puts things into perspective.

“A one billion pound debt is scary. For us it shows the structure of the club. If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it.

“But it also highlights the value of promotion.”

Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m in subsequent summers.

After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion.

FFP rules state that Championship clubs can make a maximum loss of £3m for the current 2013-14 campaign. That figure rises to £8m if a club’s owner is willing to convert the additional £5m into shares in the club.

Anything above £3m or £8m will result in a transfer embargo which would come into force on January 1, 2015. Championship clubs that fail to comply with FFP but are promoted to the Premier League this season will be required to pay a ‘Fair Play Tax’ penalty, which scales from one per cent on the first £100,000 overspent to 100 per cent on anything above £10m.

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11:37am Sat 24 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.
So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea. AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -23

12:18pm Sat 24 May 14

RobH2O says...

AnotherPounding4Burn
ley
wrote:
So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.
On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article;
"Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m"

On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article;
"After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion".

On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article;
"If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it."

We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPounding4Burn ley[/bold] wrote: So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.[/p][/quote]On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article; "Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m" On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article; "After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion". On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article; "If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it." We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you. RobH2O
  • Score: 32

12:34pm Sat 24 May 14

Chris P Bacon says...

RobH2O wrote:
AnotherPounding4Burn

ley
wrote:
So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.
On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article;
"Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m"

On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article;
"After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion".

On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article;
"If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it."

We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.
Rob, DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO LIARS.

Just my tuppenyworth there.
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherPounding4Burn ley[/bold] wrote: So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.[/p][/quote]On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article; "Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m" On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article; "After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion". On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article; "If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it." We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.[/p][/quote]Rob, DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO LIARS. Just my tuppenyworth there. Chris P Bacon
  • Score: 18

1:09pm Sat 24 May 14

RobH2O says...

Chris P Bacon wrote:
RobH2O wrote:
AnotherPounding4Burn


ley
wrote:
So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.
On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article;
"Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m"

On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article;
"After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion".

On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article;
"If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it."

We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.
Rob, DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO LIARS.

Just my tuppenyworth there.
Crispy, I have an itch! I have to scratch it!

By the way, I was at the Rodders last night. Need to figure out a reasonable way to meet for a jar without troll encroachment.
[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherPounding4Burn ley[/bold] wrote: So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.[/p][/quote]On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article; "Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m" On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article; "After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion". On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article; "If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it." We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.[/p][/quote]Rob, DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO LIARS. Just my tuppenyworth there.[/p][/quote]Crispy, I have an itch! I have to scratch it! By the way, I was at the Rodders last night. Need to figure out a reasonable way to meet for a jar without troll encroachment. RobH2O
  • Score: 14

1:34pm Sat 24 May 14

Chris P Bacon says...

RobH2O wrote:
Chris P Bacon wrote:
RobH2O wrote:
AnotherPounding4Burn



ley
wrote:
So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.
On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article;
"Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m"

On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article;
"After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion".

On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article;
"If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it."

We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.
Rob, DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO LIARS.

Just my tuppenyworth there.
Crispy, I have an itch! I have to scratch it!

By the way, I was at the Rodders last night. Need to figure out a reasonable way to meet for a jar without troll encroachment.
I know what you mean!

I would like to have gone the Rodders last night but am involved in the Grand Prix so was doing the 10K from Colne Cricket Club. Started off in good conditions but the sky went purple and opened up on us. We took a real drenching by the finish!

I was there last Sunday, sitting out in the sunshine.
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherPounding4Burn ley[/bold] wrote: So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.[/p][/quote]On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article; "Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m" On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article; "After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion". On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article; "If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it." We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.[/p][/quote]Rob, DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO LIARS. Just my tuppenyworth there.[/p][/quote]Crispy, I have an itch! I have to scratch it! By the way, I was at the Rodders last night. Need to figure out a reasonable way to meet for a jar without troll encroachment.[/p][/quote]I know what you mean! I would like to have gone the Rodders last night but am involved in the Grand Prix so was doing the 10K from Colne Cricket Club. Started off in good conditions but the sky went purple and opened up on us. We took a real drenching by the finish! I was there last Sunday, sitting out in the sunshine. Chris P Bacon
  • Score: 14

1:48pm Sat 24 May 14

Super_Clarets says...

Makes you proud to be a Clarets when you look at the utterly shambolic state of affairs at the likes of Blackburn Rovers and Bolton. Both smaller clubs on a clear downward trajectory who will struggle for many years given the precarious state of their finances. Blackburn more so I feel given the clueless nature of their owners and the potential for them to pull out at any moment. It's going to be a nervous season for these clubs and failure to achieve promotion will be nothing less than catastrophic.

What a shame.
Makes you proud to be a Clarets when you look at the utterly shambolic state of affairs at the likes of Blackburn Rovers and Bolton. Both smaller clubs on a clear downward trajectory who will struggle for many years given the precarious state of their finances. Blackburn more so I feel given the clueless nature of their owners and the potential for them to pull out at any moment. It's going to be a nervous season for these clubs and failure to achieve promotion will be nothing less than catastrophic. What a shame. Super_Clarets
  • Score: 0

1:55pm Sat 24 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

Chris P Bacon wrote:
RobH2O wrote:
Chris P Bacon wrote:
RobH2O wrote:
AnotherPounding4Burn




ley
wrote:
So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.
On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article;
"Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m"

On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article;
"After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion".

On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article;
"If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it."

We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.
Rob, DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO LIARS.

Just my tuppenyworth there.
Crispy, I have an itch! I have to scratch it!

By the way, I was at the Rodders last night. Need to figure out a reasonable way to meet for a jar without troll encroachment.
I know what you mean!

I would like to have gone the Rodders last night but am involved in the Grand Prix so was doing the 10K from Colne Cricket Club. Started off in good conditions but the sky went purple and opened up on us. We took a real drenching by the finish!

I was there last Sunday, sitting out in the sunshine.
Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that.
Another 10k chest medal slapped on the internet with no finish time to back it up and an excuse of it started raining just in case anyone thinks he's just a slug, Post your time or has the snail trail not dried yet?
Mo Farahs got nothing to worry about except slipping on your silvery trails
[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherPounding4Burn ley[/bold] wrote: So our well run club was in debt too?? It'll be interesting to see what debt we have accumulated by the time we drop out of the PL . Before we start crowing, lets see what it takes to stay in it. Also three quarters of the ground needs demolishing and rebuilding which will be even more tricky with our 14k home support, maybe we could build one stand we could all fit in to cut on costs, that's a good idea.[/p][/quote]On the matter of historical debt, here is a quote from the article; "Burnley’s losses have ultimately been offset by the sales of Jay Rodriguez, to Southampton for £7m and Charlie Austin to QPR for £4m" On the matter of current trading, here is a quote from the article; "After making a concerted attempt to fall in line with the Financial Fair Play ruling they were on course to break even this financial year, even before celebrating promotion". On the matter of future debt, here is a quote from the article; "If we’ve not got lots of money we’re not going to spend it." We have both quoted from the article. I did so honestly. You did so dishonestly. The essential you.[/p][/quote]Rob, DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO LIARS. Just my tuppenyworth there.[/p][/quote]Crispy, I have an itch! I have to scratch it! By the way, I was at the Rodders last night. Need to figure out a reasonable way to meet for a jar without troll encroachment.[/p][/quote]I know what you mean! I would like to have gone the Rodders last night but am involved in the Grand Prix so was doing the 10K from Colne Cricket Club. Started off in good conditions but the sky went purple and opened up on us. We took a real drenching by the finish! I was there last Sunday, sitting out in the sunshine.[/p][/quote]Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that. Another 10k chest medal slapped on the internet with no finish time to back it up and an excuse of it started raining just in case anyone thinks he's just a slug, Post your time or has the snail trail not dried yet? Mo Farahs got nothing to worry about except slipping on your silvery trails AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -13

1:59pm Sat 24 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Makes you proud to be a Clarets when you look at the utterly shambolic state of affairs at the likes of Blackburn Rovers and Bolton. Both smaller clubs on a clear downward trajectory who will struggle for many years given the precarious state of their finances. Blackburn more so I feel given the clueless nature of their owners and the potential for them to pull out at any moment. It's going to be a nervous season for these clubs and failure to achieve promotion will be nothing less than catastrophic.

What a shame.
I wish we were as small as Bolton or Rovers with maybe a ground like Boltons. As to have one as good as Rovers would not be possible unless we spent all 120 million on just the ground improvements.Then of course we would only be able to fill two sides at best and only be able to sign freebies with no money left for wages
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Makes you proud to be a Clarets when you look at the utterly shambolic state of affairs at the likes of Blackburn Rovers and Bolton. Both smaller clubs on a clear downward trajectory who will struggle for many years given the precarious state of their finances. Blackburn more so I feel given the clueless nature of their owners and the potential for them to pull out at any moment. It's going to be a nervous season for these clubs and failure to achieve promotion will be nothing less than catastrophic. What a shame.[/p][/quote]I wish we were as small as Bolton or Rovers with maybe a ground like Boltons. As to have one as good as Rovers would not be possible unless we spent all 120 million on just the ground improvements.Then of course we would only be able to fill two sides at best and only be able to sign freebies with no money left for wages AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -11

2:49pm Sat 24 May 14

RobH2O says...

AnotherPounding4Burn
ley says...
"Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that."

Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you.

Loser.
AnotherPounding4Burn ley says... "Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that." Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you. Loser. RobH2O
  • Score: 13

2:49pm Sat 24 May 14

RobH2O says...

AnotherPounding4Burn
ley says...
"Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that."

Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you.

Loser.
AnotherPounding4Burn ley says... "Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that." Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you. Loser. RobH2O
  • Score: 12

3:10pm Sat 24 May 14

Chris P Bacon says...

RobH2O wrote:
AnotherPounding4Burn

ley says...
"Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that."

Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you.

Loser.
I don't know what he's writing as I keep two of his names (the 'pounding' and TTT ones - it won't let me do his 'Ewoodlegend' sh8) on filter to render them unreadable. I can only see what he's been writing when someone's included a quote of his but if that's what he's been writing, it's just more confirmation of his state of mind.
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: AnotherPounding4Burn ley says... "Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that." Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you. Loser.[/p][/quote]I don't know what he's writing as I keep two of his names (the 'pounding' and TTT ones - it won't let me do his 'Ewoodlegend' sh8) on filter to render them unreadable. I can only see what he's been writing when someone's included a quote of his but if that's what he's been writing, it's just more confirmation of his state of mind. Chris P Bacon
  • Score: 15

3:37pm Sat 24 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

Chris P Bacon wrote:
RobH2O wrote:
AnotherPounding4Burn


ley says...
"Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that."

Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you.

Loser.
I don't know what he's writing as I keep two of his names (the 'pounding' and TTT ones - it won't let me do his 'Ewoodlegend' sh8) on filter to render them unreadable. I can only see what he's been writing when someone's included a quote of his but if that's what he's been writing, it's just more confirmation of his state of mind.
Still no time posted for your supposed 10k, could it be you are really an obese internet troll, on the prowl and arranging meetings with Rob for a good ol time in the rodders?
[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: AnotherPounding4Burn ley says... "Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that." Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you. Loser.[/p][/quote]I don't know what he's writing as I keep two of his names (the 'pounding' and TTT ones - it won't let me do his 'Ewoodlegend' sh8) on filter to render them unreadable. I can only see what he's been writing when someone's included a quote of his but if that's what he's been writing, it's just more confirmation of his state of mind.[/p][/quote]Still no time posted for your supposed 10k, could it be you are really an obese internet troll, on the prowl and arranging meetings with Rob for a good ol time in the rodders? AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -20

3:42pm Sat 24 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

RobH2O wrote:
AnotherPounding4Burn

ley says...
"Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that."

Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you.

Loser.
I imagine you look like Tom Daley complete with speedo's, flip flops and man bag. Be careful Crispy is not even a Burnley fan. Ask him. Anyway back to football matters, do you think we should go in for rodriguez?
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: AnotherPounding4Burn ley says... "Another meeting destined in the cubicles for these two George Michael wannabes, you've gotta have faith an all that." Ooo, you tart. You are such a lad. And so contemporary, so up to date. And there's you, a Tony Ridley tribute act. You'll remember, he's the one from Wham who couldn't sing and was talentless. He's a fitting role model for you. Loser.[/p][/quote]I imagine you look like Tom Daley complete with speedo's, flip flops and man bag. Be careful Crispy is not even a Burnley fan. Ask him. Anyway back to football matters, do you think we should go in for rodriguez? AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -17

4:32pm Sat 24 May 14

the usher says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Makes you proud to be a Clarets when you look at the utterly shambolic state of affairs at the likes of Blackburn Rovers and Bolton. Both smaller clubs on a clear downward trajectory who will struggle for many years given the precarious state of their finances. Blackburn more so I feel given the clueless nature of their owners and the potential for them to pull out at any moment. It's going to be a nervous season for these clubs and failure to achieve promotion will be nothing less than catastrophic.

What a shame.
This idiot is at it again! Surely time for the men in white coats to take him away. He is like a cracked record that keeps repeating itself. Turn it off.
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Makes you proud to be a Clarets when you look at the utterly shambolic state of affairs at the likes of Blackburn Rovers and Bolton. Both smaller clubs on a clear downward trajectory who will struggle for many years given the precarious state of their finances. Blackburn more so I feel given the clueless nature of their owners and the potential for them to pull out at any moment. It's going to be a nervous season for these clubs and failure to achieve promotion will be nothing less than catastrophic. What a shame.[/p][/quote]This idiot is at it again! Surely time for the men in white coats to take him away. He is like a cracked record that keeps repeating itself. Turn it off. the usher
  • Score: 3

5:44pm Sat 24 May 14

RobH2O says...

the usher wrote:
Super_Clarets wrote:
Makes you proud to be a Clarets when you look at the utterly shambolic state of affairs at the likes of Blackburn Rovers and Bolton. Both smaller clubs on a clear downward trajectory who will struggle for many years given the precarious state of their finances. Blackburn more so I feel given the clueless nature of their owners and the potential for them to pull out at any moment. It's going to be a nervous season for these clubs and failure to achieve promotion will be nothing less than catastrophic.

What a shame.
This idiot is at it again! Surely time for the men in white coats to take him away. He is like a cracked record that keeps repeating itself. Turn it off.
No. He speaks the truth and that bothers you. Keep it going Super.
[quote][p][bold]the usher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Makes you proud to be a Clarets when you look at the utterly shambolic state of affairs at the likes of Blackburn Rovers and Bolton. Both smaller clubs on a clear downward trajectory who will struggle for many years given the precarious state of their finances. Blackburn more so I feel given the clueless nature of their owners and the potential for them to pull out at any moment. It's going to be a nervous season for these clubs and failure to achieve promotion will be nothing less than catastrophic. What a shame.[/p][/quote]This idiot is at it again! Surely time for the men in white coats to take him away. He is like a cracked record that keeps repeating itself. Turn it off.[/p][/quote]No. He speaks the truth and that bothers you. Keep it going Super. RobH2O
  • Score: 1

11:54pm Sat 24 May 14

digitusjonfred says...

Why is Burnley garbage in my paper !!
Why is Burnley garbage in my paper !! digitusjonfred
  • Score: -10

2:47am Sun 25 May 14

noddy57 says...

whether you like it or not Burnley have not got the backbone to gamble on a possible survival package for the simple reason they are not in the same league as Blackburn Rovers and apart from a fleeting association with the premiership it will be back down to earth with a bump and then the inevitable will happen,,the guys at the top will jump ship with their ill gotten gains, after all its all about the money football is secondary.
whether you like it or not Burnley have not got the backbone to gamble on a possible survival package for the simple reason they are not in the same league as Blackburn Rovers and apart from a fleeting association with the premiership it will be back down to earth with a bump and then the inevitable will happen,,the guys at the top will jump ship with their ill gotten gains, after all its all about the money football is secondary. noddy57
  • Score: -11

6:50am Sun 25 May 14

sutherlandclarets says...

If you look at what has happened since the clubs last visit to the Premiership, with regards to players in and out. We have done very well to have gained promotion once again.
Players out are mainly strikers, Nugent back to parent club, Fletcher £7 million to Wolves (hope we had a sell on clause) Mears & Eagles to Bolton £3.5 million, Rodriguez £7 million to Southampton and Austin to QPR £4 million, plus almost all of the team which played in the premiership gone. All that on top of the parachute payments and the club still made a loss. I think the club has done very well, to keep their heads above water in these scary financial times.
So a big pat on the back to them well done and lets enjoy this next roller coaster ride in the Premiership, with our new and very up and coming Manager Sean Dyche
If you look at what has happened since the clubs last visit to the Premiership, with regards to players in and out. We have done very well to have gained promotion once again. Players out are mainly strikers, Nugent back to parent club, Fletcher £7 million to Wolves (hope we had a sell on clause) Mears & Eagles to Bolton £3.5 million, Rodriguez £7 million to Southampton and Austin to QPR £4 million, plus almost all of the team which played in the premiership gone. All that on top of the parachute payments and the club still made a loss. I think the club has done very well, to keep their heads above water in these scary financial times. So a big pat on the back to them well done and lets enjoy this next roller coaster ride in the Premiership, with our new and very up and coming Manager Sean Dyche sutherlandclarets
  • Score: 8

7:12am Sun 25 May 14

wilddog says...

noddy57 wrote:
whether you like it or not Burnley have not got the backbone to gamble on a possible survival package for the simple reason they are not in the same league as Blackburn Rovers and apart from a fleeting association with the premiership it will be back down to earth with a bump and then the inevitable will happen,,the guys at the top will jump ship with their ill gotten gains, after all its all about the money football is secondary.
Your right, they aint in the same league! Burnley are in the prem and rovers aint!
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: whether you like it or not Burnley have not got the backbone to gamble on a possible survival package for the simple reason they are not in the same league as Blackburn Rovers and apart from a fleeting association with the premiership it will be back down to earth with a bump and then the inevitable will happen,,the guys at the top will jump ship with their ill gotten gains, after all its all about the money football is secondary.[/p][/quote]Your right, they aint in the same league! Burnley are in the prem and rovers aint! wilddog
  • Score: 9

10:09am Sun 25 May 14

owd nick says...

sutherlandclarets wrote:
If you look at what has happened since the clubs last visit to the Premiership, with regards to players in and out. We have done very well to have gained promotion once again.
Players out are mainly strikers, Nugent back to parent club, Fletcher £7 million to Wolves (hope we had a sell on clause) Mears & Eagles to Bolton £3.5 million, Rodriguez £7 million to Southampton and Austin to QPR £4 million, plus almost all of the team which played in the premiership gone. All that on top of the parachute payments and the club still made a loss. I think the club has done very well, to keep their heads above water in these scary financial times.
So a big pat on the back to them well done and lets enjoy this next roller coaster ride in the Premiership, with our new and very up and coming Manager Sean Dyche
Good post, there is no doubt that Burnley have managed their financial situation much better than many other clubs, Rovers included, but your key phrase is;

"All that on top of the parachute payments and the club still made a loss."

To simply survive in the PL promoted clubs have to invest heavily just to get their foot on the 4th rung from the bottom, the three relegated clubs face inevitable financial meltdown, if you are relegated next season it won't be the same as last time because FFP wasn't in place then; it was easier to pace yourself, and you will find that while you well be a much richer (financially) club for the experience, the sentence I quoted will have much more bite next time around.

That for small clubs like ours is extremely scary because FFP only has one eventual outcome, it will make the big city clubs richer and pave the way for a break away European Super League, I suspect in the non too distant future.

Something along the lines of how European Rugby Union is currently being structured.

However, these for you are heady days indeed and despite all the rivalry and rhetoric I honestly do hope you fans have a great time in the PL next season.
[quote][p][bold]sutherlandclarets[/bold] wrote: If you look at what has happened since the clubs last visit to the Premiership, with regards to players in and out. We have done very well to have gained promotion once again. Players out are mainly strikers, Nugent back to parent club, Fletcher £7 million to Wolves (hope we had a sell on clause) Mears & Eagles to Bolton £3.5 million, Rodriguez £7 million to Southampton and Austin to QPR £4 million, plus almost all of the team which played in the premiership gone. All that on top of the parachute payments and the club still made a loss. I think the club has done very well, to keep their heads above water in these scary financial times. So a big pat on the back to them well done and lets enjoy this next roller coaster ride in the Premiership, with our new and very up and coming Manager Sean Dyche[/p][/quote]Good post, there is no doubt that Burnley have managed their financial situation much better than many other clubs, Rovers included, but your key phrase is; "All that on top of the parachute payments and the club still made a loss." To simply survive in the PL promoted clubs have to invest heavily just to get their foot on the 4th rung from the bottom, the three relegated clubs face inevitable financial meltdown, if you are relegated next season it won't be the same as last time because FFP wasn't in place then; it was easier to pace yourself, and you will find that while you well be a much richer (financially) club for the experience, the sentence I quoted will have much more bite next time around. That for small clubs like ours is extremely scary because FFP only has one eventual outcome, it will make the big city clubs richer and pave the way for a break away European Super League, I suspect in the non too distant future. Something along the lines of how European Rugby Union is currently being structured. However, these for you are heady days indeed and despite all the rivalry and rhetoric I honestly do hope you fans have a great time in the PL next season. owd nick
  • Score: 6

10:36am Sun 25 May 14

owd nick says...

In case you think I was being sarcastic this is the briefest statement I have found on the Rugby Union restructuring, there are many more detailed documents out there.

http://www.espn.co.u
k/england/rugby/stor
y/217549.html

Replace "The RFU has trampled all over us" with "UEFA (or if you prefer the PL) has trampled all over us" and you will get the gist of the direction I am thinking regarding the real affect of FFP.

The fact the the PL have openly stated this week that the situation regarding Leicester's current level of debt has nothing to do with them, one has to presume the same applies to QPR, who face a fine of circa £50 million, which they are now refusing to pay and are challenging in the courts.
In case you think I was being sarcastic this is the briefest statement I have found on the Rugby Union restructuring, there are many more detailed documents out there. http://www.espn.co.u k/england/rugby/stor y/217549.html Replace "The RFU has trampled all over us" with "UEFA (or if you prefer the PL) has trampled all over us" and you will get the gist of the direction I am thinking regarding the real affect of FFP. The fact the the PL have openly stated this week that the situation regarding Leicester's current level of debt has nothing to do with them, one has to presume the same applies to QPR, who face a fine of circa £50 million, which they are now refusing to pay and are challenging in the courts. owd nick
  • Score: -1

3:28pm Sun 25 May 14

noddy57 says...

wilddog wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
whether you like it or not Burnley have not got the backbone to gamble on a possible survival package for the simple reason they are not in the same league as Blackburn Rovers and apart from a fleeting association with the premiership it will be back down to earth with a bump and then the inevitable will happen,,the guys at the top will jump ship with their ill gotten gains, after all its all about the money football is secondary.
Your right, they aint in the same league! Burnley are in the prem and rovers aint!
That,s a good observation,well done, l will be back on this medium at the end of the new season to remind you of your short stay in the big boys league and how it all fell apart, but having said that hats off to your manager he has done an exceptional job and l fully expect Gary bowyer to emulate it next season.COYB.
[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: whether you like it or not Burnley have not got the backbone to gamble on a possible survival package for the simple reason they are not in the same league as Blackburn Rovers and apart from a fleeting association with the premiership it will be back down to earth with a bump and then the inevitable will happen,,the guys at the top will jump ship with their ill gotten gains, after all its all about the money football is secondary.[/p][/quote]Your right, they aint in the same league! Burnley are in the prem and rovers aint![/p][/quote]That,s a good observation,well done, l will be back on this medium at the end of the new season to remind you of your short stay in the big boys league and how it all fell apart, but having said that hats off to your manager he has done an exceptional job and l fully expect Gary bowyer to emulate it next season.COYB. noddy57
  • Score: -9

4:48pm Sun 25 May 14

stevieclaret says...

noddy57 wrote:
whether you like it or not Burnley have not got the backbone to gamble on a possible survival package for the simple reason they are not in the same league as Blackburn Rovers and apart from a fleeting association with the premiership it will be back down to earth with a bump and then the inevitable will happen,,the guys at the top will jump ship with their ill gotten gains, after all its all about the money football is secondary.
Back down to earth with a bump like your lot u mean?

At the end of the day we are better than u on n off the pitch so deal with it big ears!!
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: whether you like it or not Burnley have not got the backbone to gamble on a possible survival package for the simple reason they are not in the same league as Blackburn Rovers and apart from a fleeting association with the premiership it will be back down to earth with a bump and then the inevitable will happen,,the guys at the top will jump ship with their ill gotten gains, after all its all about the money football is secondary.[/p][/quote]Back down to earth with a bump like your lot u mean? At the end of the day we are better than u on n off the pitch so deal with it big ears!! stevieclaret
  • Score: 6

5:34pm Sun 25 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

Sign Rodriguez you tight wads, he's a Burnley fan and would love to come home, we need an England international in the squad, we should get him for about 10 million.
Sign Rodriguez you tight wads, he's a Burnley fan and would love to come home, we need an England international in the squad, we should get him for about 10 million. AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -11

11:00pm Sun 25 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

So by the thumbs down score nobody wants Rodriguez back, funny I thought everyone thought he was good
So by the thumbs down score nobody wants Rodriguez back, funny I thought everyone thought he was good AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -4

9:18am Tue 27 May 14

houseclaret says...

Thought I'd just have a look on this Burnley story but it has been infested by the jealous ones who have nothing to look forward to. Apologies to Owd Nick (you're okay mate) but why don't the rest of you just clear off to the site of misery and discontent. Your comments are predictably boring and your overwhelming jealousy and overbearing and unjustified arrogance is just tedious.
Thought I'd just have a look on this Burnley story but it has been infested by the jealous ones who have nothing to look forward to. Apologies to Owd Nick (you're okay mate) but why don't the rest of you just clear off to the site of misery and discontent. Your comments are predictably boring and your overwhelming jealousy and overbearing and unjustified arrogance is just tedious. houseclaret
  • Score: 3

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