Burnley move Turf Moor tunnel after stand decision

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BURNLEY are to move their players’ tunnel at Turf Moor next season after deciding against opening a section of the David Fishwick Stand to home supporters.

During the Clarets’ previous season in the Premier League the club divided the David Fishwick Stand between home and away fans, but they have opted to keep it exclusively for visiting supporters next season.

In a statement, the club said: “The club has looked into the possibility of housing Burnley fans in the David Fishwick Stand and this was discussed in depth by the board.

However, after much debate, this stand will now be used exclusively for visiting supporters next season.

“The board scrutinised the numbers and feel this would dissipate the home support.

“The board also feel it would be more beneficial to a good atmosphere inside Turf Moor to concentrate home supporters in the existing three stands.”

As a result, the club have decided to relocate the tunnel from the centre of the David Fishwick Stand to the corner of the stadium, between the away end and the James Hargreaves Stand.

“This will mean the teams now emerge in front of home supporters instead of visiting fans,” the statement added.

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2:24pm Mon 12 May 14

FCBurnley says...

Er no. The teams will emerge between home and visiting supporters. Unless I am misunderstanding the plan !!
Er no. The teams will emerge between home and visiting supporters. Unless I am misunderstanding the plan !! FCBurnley
  • Score: 13

2:44pm Mon 12 May 14

RobH2O says...

Paul Fletcher, when Chief Executive, had the Architects draw up a design where a dedicated structure for changing rooms and general gathering of players etc, could take place. It was to be built between the Jimmy Mac and the James Hargreaves stands; where the Electronic information board is currently.

It was two stories and coaches could pull up behind it dump players into the structure. They would have emerged in front of home fans, left right and straight opposite. The plan also saw , information screens under the roof of the Cricket Field stand and the Jimmy Mac stand, so that everyone in the ground got a view of a screen.

I wonder if its nearly the same plan, screens obviously a little different.
Paul Fletcher, when Chief Executive, had the Architects draw up a design where a dedicated structure for changing rooms and general gathering of players etc, could take place. It was to be built between the Jimmy Mac and the James Hargreaves stands; where the Electronic information board is currently. It was two stories and coaches could pull up behind it dump players into the structure. They would have emerged in front of home fans, left right and straight opposite. The plan also saw , information screens under the roof of the Cricket Field stand and the Jimmy Mac stand, so that everyone in the ground got a view of a screen. I wonder if its nearly the same plan, screens obviously a little different. RobH2O
  • Score: 4

2:47pm Mon 12 May 14

Phil Simpson says...

If Burnley fans can only fill three sides of the ground, why was half of the David Fishwick stand taken over by them last time we were in the Premier League.
This smacks of defeatism on the part of the Burnley board. One can only assume that they were so engrossed in last season's matches that they failed to noticed that, with the exception of derby matches, the level of occupancy of the away area was pitiful.
I accept that there will be more Premier League away fans but still feel that home fans will, in effect, be turned away from occupying empty seats in the David Fishwick.
Surely the best compromise would be something along the lines of a 70/30 split for away & home fans in that stand.
If Burnley fans can only fill three sides of the ground, why was half of the David Fishwick stand taken over by them last time we were in the Premier League. This smacks of defeatism on the part of the Burnley board. One can only assume that they were so engrossed in last season's matches that they failed to noticed that, with the exception of derby matches, the level of occupancy of the away area was pitiful. I accept that there will be more Premier League away fans but still feel that home fans will, in effect, be turned away from occupying empty seats in the David Fishwick. Surely the best compromise would be something along the lines of a 70/30 split for away & home fans in that stand. Phil Simpson
  • Score: 4

2:53pm Mon 12 May 14

RobH2O says...

Phil Simpson wrote:
If Burnley fans can only fill three sides of the ground, why was half of the David Fishwick stand taken over by them last time we were in the Premier League.
This smacks of defeatism on the part of the Burnley board. One can only assume that they were so engrossed in last season's matches that they failed to noticed that, with the exception of derby matches, the level of occupancy of the away area was pitiful.
I accept that there will be more Premier League away fans but still feel that home fans will, in effect, be turned away from occupying empty seats in the David Fishwick.
Surely the best compromise would be something along the lines of a 70/30 split for away & home fans in that stand.
The fewer seats there are, the greater the level of demand for the existing seating platform. This means they can charge more. All the have to do is the probability maths and identify the revenue gain from increasing the seats in the Cricket Field end open to Clarets, and the yield that fewer seats will command through a price hike. My guess is they've done that and come up with this!
[quote][p][bold]Phil Simpson[/bold] wrote: If Burnley fans can only fill three sides of the ground, why was half of the David Fishwick stand taken over by them last time we were in the Premier League. This smacks of defeatism on the part of the Burnley board. One can only assume that they were so engrossed in last season's matches that they failed to noticed that, with the exception of derby matches, the level of occupancy of the away area was pitiful. I accept that there will be more Premier League away fans but still feel that home fans will, in effect, be turned away from occupying empty seats in the David Fishwick. Surely the best compromise would be something along the lines of a 70/30 split for away & home fans in that stand.[/p][/quote]The fewer seats there are, the greater the level of demand for the existing seating platform. This means they can charge more. All the have to do is the probability maths and identify the revenue gain from increasing the seats in the Cricket Field end open to Clarets, and the yield that fewer seats will command through a price hike. My guess is they've done that and come up with this! RobH2O
  • Score: 9

3:27pm Mon 12 May 14

MikeMada says...

Bizarre statement that the teams will be coming out 'in front of home supporters', where it is clear it will be half and half.
Which it would have been if they had kept some of the CF end available for home supporters. #outoftouch #letseanfixit
Bizarre statement that the teams will be coming out 'in front of home supporters', where it is clear it will be half and half. Which it would have been if they had kept some of the CF end available for home supporters. #outoftouch #letseanfixit MikeMada
  • Score: 6

3:41pm Mon 12 May 14

slants says...

Obvious that the filth objected about this ;are they also going to keep the 500 odd seats empty in the corner of the longsdie lower lol
Obvious that the filth objected about this ;are they also going to keep the 500 odd seats empty in the corner of the longsdie lower lol slants
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Mon 12 May 14

RobH2O says...

slants wrote:
Obvious that the filth objected about this ;are they also going to keep the 500 odd seats empty in the corner of the longsdie lower lol
Interesting that one Slants. The official capacity of the Turf is now listed as 21,800 down from 22,552. That's a drop of 752 which I think reflects the 500 you talk about in the JH stand and the couple of hundred or so that they leave empty in the Cricket Field corner adjacent to the JH. Looks like a permanent change.
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote: Obvious that the filth objected about this ;are they also going to keep the 500 odd seats empty in the corner of the longsdie lower lol[/p][/quote]Interesting that one Slants. The official capacity of the Turf is now listed as 21,800 down from 22,552. That's a drop of 752 which I think reflects the 500 you talk about in the JH stand and the couple of hundred or so that they leave empty in the Cricket Field corner adjacent to the JH. Looks like a permanent change. RobH2O
  • Score: 4

3:52pm Mon 12 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

This is a much better idea as due to appalling home support. We are more likely to fill it with away supporters as they bother to turn up. With this wise decision we might get 20K on. A proper well run club.
This is a much better idea as due to appalling home support. We are more likely to fill it with away supporters as they bother to turn up. With this wise decision we might get 20K on. A proper well run club. AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -14

4:14pm Mon 12 May 14

houseclaret says...

I have been fully supportive of the board for quite a while now and, in the main, they get things right, but this decision is just plain stupid. The home sections of the ground last time in the prem where full, more or less, for every game. Do they, in their wildest dreams, expect over 4k visiting fans for every game? 4k plus from West Ham? Stoke? Swansea? Fulham? Even teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs probably won't fill it, especially at a night match. This has got to be the most ridiculous decision they have made in years, especially taking into account the loss of 500 seats in the JH stand to accomodate Sky. They are cutting off their own supporters with this mad idea. As far as I am concerned the less visiting support the better, this way visiting teams will have more backing, do we really want that? It's going to be tough enough without inviting more visitors to the ground. I agree with the statement above, watch out for price rises, because I suspect that the law of supply and demand will be quoted in the coming months. Burnley board, ignore the police and your accountants and give home fans more seats.
I have been fully supportive of the board for quite a while now and, in the main, they get things right, but this decision is just plain stupid. The home sections of the ground last time in the prem where full, more or less, for every game. Do they, in their wildest dreams, expect over 4k visiting fans for every game? 4k plus from West Ham? Stoke? Swansea? Fulham? Even teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs probably won't fill it, especially at a night match. This has got to be the most ridiculous decision they have made in years, especially taking into account the loss of 500 seats in the JH stand to accomodate Sky. They are cutting off their own supporters with this mad idea. As far as I am concerned the less visiting support the better, this way visiting teams will have more backing, do we really want that? It's going to be tough enough without inviting more visitors to the ground. I agree with the statement above, watch out for price rises, because I suspect that the law of supply and demand will be quoted in the coming months. Burnley board, ignore the police and your accountants and give home fans more seats. houseclaret
  • Score: 6

4:24pm Mon 12 May 14

garry_stockton says...

One thing for certain AP4B you will not be turning up , so why worry.
Look after the dwindling Chicken Shack and Turf Moor will look after itself you are becoming an absolute ar-ehole
One thing for certain AP4B you will not be turning up , so why worry. Look after the dwindling Chicken Shack and Turf Moor will look after itself you are becoming an absolute ar-ehole garry_stockton
  • Score: 11

4:38pm Mon 12 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

houseclaret wrote:
I have been fully supportive of the board for quite a while now and, in the main, they get things right, but this decision is just plain stupid. The home sections of the ground last time in the prem where full, more or less, for every game. Do they, in their wildest dreams, expect over 4k visiting fans for every game? 4k plus from West Ham? Stoke? Swansea? Fulham? Even teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs probably won't fill it, especially at a night match. This has got to be the most ridiculous decision they have made in years, especially taking into account the loss of 500 seats in the JH stand to accomodate Sky. They are cutting off their own supporters with this mad idea. As far as I am concerned the less visiting support the better, this way visiting teams will have more backing, do we really want that? It's going to be tough enough without inviting more visitors to the ground. I agree with the statement above, watch out for price rises, because I suspect that the law of supply and demand will be quoted in the coming months. Burnley board, ignore the police and your accountants and give home fans more seats.
When playing the big guns, it would be better to give three sides to away supporters and save this 4k one for our amazing home support, thus ensuring a full ground.
This is a masterstroke of a decision at our well run club
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote: I have been fully supportive of the board for quite a while now and, in the main, they get things right, but this decision is just plain stupid. The home sections of the ground last time in the prem where full, more or less, for every game. Do they, in their wildest dreams, expect over 4k visiting fans for every game? 4k plus from West Ham? Stoke? Swansea? Fulham? Even teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs probably won't fill it, especially at a night match. This has got to be the most ridiculous decision they have made in years, especially taking into account the loss of 500 seats in the JH stand to accomodate Sky. They are cutting off their own supporters with this mad idea. As far as I am concerned the less visiting support the better, this way visiting teams will have more backing, do we really want that? It's going to be tough enough without inviting more visitors to the ground. I agree with the statement above, watch out for price rises, because I suspect that the law of supply and demand will be quoted in the coming months. Burnley board, ignore the police and your accountants and give home fans more seats.[/p][/quote]When playing the big guns, it would be better to give three sides to away supporters and save this 4k one for our amazing home support, thus ensuring a full ground. This is a masterstroke of a decision at our well run club AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -7

4:45pm Mon 12 May 14

Claretcert says...

Lot of sense in this one. Last time we split it how many of those in it were there the season after or season before? Mostly it was overspill and didn't adda single point to the campaign. Fill 3 sides and let the away fans fill it or not.
Lot of sense in this one. Last time we split it how many of those in it were there the season after or season before? Mostly it was overspill and didn't adda single point to the campaign. Fill 3 sides and let the away fans fill it or not. Claretcert
  • Score: 6

4:48pm Mon 12 May 14

Chris P Bacon says...

garry_stockton wrote:
One thing for certain AP4B you will not be turning up , so why worry.
Look after the dwindling Chicken Shack and Turf Moor will look after itself you are becoming an absolute ar-ehole
Schoolboy error there, Gaz. He feeds off responses so please let's be as determined and consistent as this requires. It may be tempting to point out his monumental stupidity but the momentary satisfaction you might get is outweighed by the fact he's got a chubby by the mere fact he's got someone daft enough to pander to him. We're all singing from the same hymn-sheet where he's concerned and the only ones not wide to him are the ones giving him the oxygen he needs. Just blank him in the quiet satisfaction that it demeans us to goad the disturbed.
[quote][p][bold]garry_stockton[/bold] wrote: One thing for certain AP4B you will not be turning up , so why worry. Look after the dwindling Chicken Shack and Turf Moor will look after itself you are becoming an absolute ar-ehole[/p][/quote]Schoolboy error there, Gaz. He feeds off responses so please let's be as determined and consistent as this requires. It may be tempting to point out his monumental stupidity but the momentary satisfaction you might get is outweighed by the fact he's got a chubby by the mere fact he's got someone daft enough to pander to him. We're all singing from the same hymn-sheet where he's concerned and the only ones not wide to him are the ones giving him the oxygen he needs. Just blank him in the quiet satisfaction that it demeans us to goad the disturbed. Chris P Bacon
  • Score: 17

4:54pm Mon 12 May 14

TurfMoorTom says...

RobH2O wrote:
Phil Simpson wrote:
If Burnley fans can only fill three sides of the ground, why was half of the David Fishwick stand taken over by them last time we were in the Premier League.
This smacks of defeatism on the part of the Burnley board. One can only assume that they were so engrossed in last season's matches that they failed to noticed that, with the exception of derby matches, the level of occupancy of the away area was pitiful.
I accept that there will be more Premier League away fans but still feel that home fans will, in effect, be turned away from occupying empty seats in the David Fishwick.
Surely the best compromise would be something along the lines of a 70/30 split for away & home fans in that stand.
The fewer seats there are, the greater the level of demand for the existing seating platform. This means they can charge more. All the have to do is the probability maths and identify the revenue gain from increasing the seats in the Cricket Field end open to Clarets, and the yield that fewer seats will command through a price hike. My guess is they've done that and come up with this!
Possibly. However, my thinking is they've realized there isn't enough home support to even fill this p!sspot of a ground. Why would they be manipulating higher ticket prices when they couldn't fill the ground for the last season (which was the best in living memory).
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phil Simpson[/bold] wrote: If Burnley fans can only fill three sides of the ground, why was half of the David Fishwick stand taken over by them last time we were in the Premier League. This smacks of defeatism on the part of the Burnley board. One can only assume that they were so engrossed in last season's matches that they failed to noticed that, with the exception of derby matches, the level of occupancy of the away area was pitiful. I accept that there will be more Premier League away fans but still feel that home fans will, in effect, be turned away from occupying empty seats in the David Fishwick. Surely the best compromise would be something along the lines of a 70/30 split for away & home fans in that stand.[/p][/quote]The fewer seats there are, the greater the level of demand for the existing seating platform. This means they can charge more. All the have to do is the probability maths and identify the revenue gain from increasing the seats in the Cricket Field end open to Clarets, and the yield that fewer seats will command through a price hike. My guess is they've done that and come up with this![/p][/quote]Possibly. However, my thinking is they've realized there isn't enough home support to even fill this p!sspot of a ground. Why would they be manipulating higher ticket prices when they couldn't fill the ground for the last season (which was the best in living memory). TurfMoorTom
  • Score: -18

5:21pm Mon 12 May 14

swearengen says...

Great idea again, not! 200 in that stand make more noise than the rest put together due to the roof structure. Put em in the Bob Lord, it's always quiet in there, I know cause that's where I sit. Question for the Deadwood gang, has the top tier of the Darwen end been open since you left the Prem? When on the rare occasions you are on the tele these days there is an awful lot of blue plastic on show.
Great idea again, not! 200 in that stand make more noise than the rest put together due to the roof structure. Put em in the Bob Lord, it's always quiet in there, I know cause that's where I sit. Question for the Deadwood gang, has the top tier of the Darwen end been open since you left the Prem? When on the rare occasions you are on the tele these days there is an awful lot of blue plastic on show. swearengen
  • Score: 4

5:42pm Mon 12 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

Chris P Bacon wrote:
garry_stockton wrote:
One thing for certain AP4B you will not be turning up , so why worry.
Look after the dwindling Chicken Shack and Turf Moor will look after itself you are becoming an absolute ar-ehole
Schoolboy error there, Gaz. He feeds off responses so please let's be as determined and consistent as this requires. It may be tempting to point out his monumental stupidity but the momentary satisfaction you might get is outweighed by the fact he's got a chubby by the mere fact he's got someone daft enough to pander to him. We're all singing from the same hymn-sheet where he's concerned and the only ones not wide to him are the ones giving him the oxygen he needs. Just blank him in the quiet satisfaction that it demeans us to goad the disturbed.
ignore this one Garry, he's not even a Burnley fan like us.He just needs some male company and Lycra
[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garry_stockton[/bold] wrote: One thing for certain AP4B you will not be turning up , so why worry. Look after the dwindling Chicken Shack and Turf Moor will look after itself you are becoming an absolute ar-ehole[/p][/quote]Schoolboy error there, Gaz. He feeds off responses so please let's be as determined and consistent as this requires. It may be tempting to point out his monumental stupidity but the momentary satisfaction you might get is outweighed by the fact he's got a chubby by the mere fact he's got someone daft enough to pander to him. We're all singing from the same hymn-sheet where he's concerned and the only ones not wide to him are the ones giving him the oxygen he needs. Just blank him in the quiet satisfaction that it demeans us to goad the disturbed.[/p][/quote]ignore this one Garry, he's not even a Burnley fan like us.He just needs some male company and Lycra AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -17

5:44pm Mon 12 May 14

HelmshoreBoy says...

Lets face it. The Cricket Field stand will be one of the worst in the premier league and is an embarassment to the town. Get it demolished.
Lets face it. The Cricket Field stand will be one of the worst in the premier league and is an embarassment to the town. Get it demolished. HelmshoreBoy
  • Score: -12

6:09pm Mon 12 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

HelmshoreBoy wrote:
Lets face it. The Cricket Field stand will be one of the worst in the premier league and is an embarassment to the town. Get it demolished.
Why stop there, it would be better for all concerned to level it and build a more efficient modern smaller ground with a 15K capacity. Then it will be at least 3/4 full on match day when we are fighting relegation it'll create a better atmosphere.
[quote][p][bold]HelmshoreBoy[/bold] wrote: Lets face it. The Cricket Field stand will be one of the worst in the premier league and is an embarassment to the town. Get it demolished.[/p][/quote]Why stop there, it would be better for all concerned to level it and build a more efficient modern smaller ground with a 15K capacity. Then it will be at least 3/4 full on match day when we are fighting relegation it'll create a better atmosphere. AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -8

6:09pm Mon 12 May 14

owd nick says...

I was going to make a joke about wooden seats but I will desist!

Reading the article and some of the more sensible comments I think you are all missing a point here.

Like Rovers with the Darwen End you are never going to take up your full allocation in this stand, also, home and away fans have to be separated, so you are going to loose seats anyway.

We, and clubs like ours simply don't have the fan base to demand more.

From a financial aspect, especially in the PL it makes sense to allocate a stand to visiting fans, who you will be able to charge a premium, especially to the bigger clubs who are most likely to fill it, and it makes security and policing that much easier.

In the cold, financial light of day I am afraid that fans often come a distant second when money rears it's ugly head, even in the most homely of clubs.

Cynical? yes, but I am speaking from experience.
I was going to make a joke about wooden seats but I will desist! Reading the article and some of the more sensible comments I think you are all missing a point here. Like Rovers with the Darwen End you are never going to take up your full allocation in this stand, also, home and away fans have to be separated, so you are going to loose seats anyway. We, and clubs like ours simply don't have the fan base to demand more. From a financial aspect, especially in the PL it makes sense to allocate a stand to visiting fans, who you will be able to charge a premium, especially to the bigger clubs who are most likely to fill it, and it makes security and policing that much easier. In the cold, financial light of day I am afraid that fans often come a distant second when money rears it's ugly head, even in the most homely of clubs. Cynical? yes, but I am speaking from experience. owd nick
  • Score: 7

6:15pm Mon 12 May 14

McClaret says...

Early bird prices were definitely worth it this time - Premier league prices have been announced for season tickets, a serious hike.
For a bloke and 2 kids in the family stand it is £1035. That is a serious dent in the average household finances and is significantly more than 12 months subscription to sky sports which will have at the minimum extended highlights of each match.
The club are no doubt relying on the 5000+ extra fans from last time around coming on again.
Early bird prices were definitely worth it this time - Premier league prices have been announced for season tickets, a serious hike. For a bloke and 2 kids in the family stand it is £1035. That is a serious dent in the average household finances and is significantly more than 12 months subscription to sky sports which will have at the minimum extended highlights of each match. The club are no doubt relying on the 5000+ extra fans from last time around coming on again. McClaret
  • Score: 10

6:31pm Mon 12 May 14

gazzandste says...

Why not knock the David Fishwick stand down and build a new one. Bigger and more modern fill in the corners and add more seats.
Why not knock the David Fishwick stand down and build a new one. Bigger and more modern fill in the corners and add more seats. gazzandste
  • Score: 0

6:43pm Mon 12 May 14

burnleyfan4life says...

In actual fact the club would have no problem selling the home alloacation - sold out pretty much all last time in premiership. This is however about supply and demand - The max home support is now just under 18000 capacity -circa 14000 season tickets already sold - season tickets now gone on sales at a higher cost because they can - restrict supply ensures they are sold at the higher price - £685 now where I sit a season (includes £100 retainer for season after - not sure on legality of that??) - Pre end of season the price was £485.- with circa only 4000 tickets available for season tickets and walk ins and pre ordered etc yes the prices will rise - expect some tickets to be £40 per seat next season. Supply and demand - squeeze supply to ensure demand remains high - simple business decision!!
In actual fact the club would have no problem selling the home alloacation - sold out pretty much all last time in premiership. This is however about supply and demand - The max home support is now just under 18000 capacity -circa 14000 season tickets already sold - season tickets now gone on sales at a higher cost because they can - restrict supply ensures they are sold at the higher price - £685 now where I sit a season (includes £100 retainer for season after - not sure on legality of that??) - Pre end of season the price was £485.- with circa only 4000 tickets available for season tickets and walk ins and pre ordered etc yes the prices will rise - expect some tickets to be £40 per seat next season. Supply and demand - squeeze supply to ensure demand remains high - simple business decision!! burnleyfan4life
  • Score: 12

7:53pm Mon 12 May 14

claretadora says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Er no. The teams will emerge between home and visiting supporters. Unless I am misunderstanding the plan !!
Nope you understand it perfectly!. .... I think you'll find its the board that don't understand the plan.... Christ I hope this isn't the start of things to come... how ill thought out is that ... utterly bizarre.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Er no. The teams will emerge between home and visiting supporters. Unless I am misunderstanding the plan !![/p][/quote]Nope you understand it perfectly!. .... I think you'll find its the board that don't understand the plan.... Christ I hope this isn't the start of things to come... how ill thought out is that ... utterly bizarre. claretadora
  • Score: 3

8:20pm Mon 12 May 14

burnleyfan4life says...

The new prices are going to be an issue - £685!!!!!! The more I think about it the worse it feels!!! just 19 games remember thats £36.05 per game!! - last year it was £495 or £21.08 per ticket!!! more than a 70% rise!!!
The new prices are going to be an issue - £685!!!!!! The more I think about it the worse it feels!!! just 19 games remember thats £36.05 per game!! - last year it was £495 or £21.08 per ticket!!! more than a 70% rise!!! burnleyfan4life
  • Score: 2

8:47pm Mon 12 May 14

TurfMoorTom's_Psychiatrist says...

I think it only fail that you're all informed of TTTom's medical condition. He has tormented you all for weeks now. Please be aware that he has other names he goes by. I can confirm that to be true, as his Psychiatrist. ,

His condition is Total Twa.t Syndrome. It manifests itself in the wish to pleasure oneself by inducing frustration and unhappiness in others. His real name is Richard Head and he comes from Shadsworth in Blackburn. We call him Dic.k here in the clinic.

What matters to him more than anything else is to be the centre of attention. He will do anything to make sure that your respond to what he writes. Sadly, he is a liar, a fantasist, a cheat and a general nare-do-well. His father, who is also his brother, his mother and his uncle, think he's a tur.d with legs attached.

He knows nothing about football. He knows nothing, period.

He's out and about at the moment with a picture of Jimmy Saville, a roll model and hero to him. He's got the picture pinned to his T-Shirt.

If you see him his single person-multiple roll paying relative has asked if you would chuck petrol over him and light a match. You'd be doing the whole of humanity a colossal service.
I think it only fail that you're all informed of TTTom's medical condition. He has tormented you all for weeks now. Please be aware that he has other names he goes by. I can confirm that to be true, as his Psychiatrist. , His condition is Total Twa.t Syndrome. It manifests itself in the wish to pleasure oneself by inducing frustration and unhappiness in others. His real name is Richard Head and he comes from Shadsworth in Blackburn. We call him Dic.k here in the clinic. What matters to him more than anything else is to be the centre of attention. He will do anything to make sure that your respond to what he writes. Sadly, he is a liar, a fantasist, a cheat and a general nare-do-well. His father, who is also his brother, his mother and his uncle, think he's a tur.d with legs attached. He knows nothing about football. He knows nothing, period. He's out and about at the moment with a picture of Jimmy Saville, a roll model and hero to him. He's got the picture pinned to his T-Shirt. If you see him his single person-multiple roll paying relative has asked if you would chuck petrol over him and light a match. You'd be doing the whole of humanity a colossal service. TurfMoorTom's_Psychiatrist
  • Score: 3

9:50pm Mon 12 May 14

noddy57 says...

TurfMoorTom's_Psychi
atrist
wrote:
I think it only fail that you're all informed of TTTom's medical condition. He has tormented you all for weeks now. Please be aware that he has other names he goes by. I can confirm that to be true, as his Psychiatrist. ,

His condition is Total Twa.t Syndrome. It manifests itself in the wish to pleasure oneself by inducing frustration and unhappiness in others. His real name is Richard Head and he comes from Shadsworth in Blackburn. We call him Dic.k here in the clinic.

What matters to him more than anything else is to be the centre of attention. He will do anything to make sure that your respond to what he writes. Sadly, he is a liar, a fantasist, a cheat and a general nare-do-well. His father, who is also his brother, his mother and his uncle, think he's a tur.d with legs attached.

He knows nothing about football. He knows nothing, period.

He's out and about at the moment with a picture of Jimmy Saville, a roll model and hero to him. He's got the picture pinned to his T-Shirt.

If you see him his single person-multiple roll paying relative has asked if you would chuck petrol over him and light a match. You'd be doing the whole of humanity a colossal service.
hey guys that,s a big logistical decision and even a bigger problem when you consider the limited room in that small ground of yours,,you might be able to apply to the national lottery for funding if it proves to be expensive,by the way what is the tunnel made of polythene ?
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom's_Psychi atrist[/bold] wrote: I think it only fail that you're all informed of TTTom's medical condition. He has tormented you all for weeks now. Please be aware that he has other names he goes by. I can confirm that to be true, as his Psychiatrist. , His condition is Total Twa.t Syndrome. It manifests itself in the wish to pleasure oneself by inducing frustration and unhappiness in others. His real name is Richard Head and he comes from Shadsworth in Blackburn. We call him Dic.k here in the clinic. What matters to him more than anything else is to be the centre of attention. He will do anything to make sure that your respond to what he writes. Sadly, he is a liar, a fantasist, a cheat and a general nare-do-well. His father, who is also his brother, his mother and his uncle, think he's a tur.d with legs attached. He knows nothing about football. He knows nothing, period. He's out and about at the moment with a picture of Jimmy Saville, a roll model and hero to him. He's got the picture pinned to his T-Shirt. If you see him his single person-multiple roll paying relative has asked if you would chuck petrol over him and light a match. You'd be doing the whole of humanity a colossal service.[/p][/quote]hey guys that,s a big logistical decision and even a bigger problem when you consider the limited room in that small ground of yours,,you might be able to apply to the national lottery for funding if it proves to be expensive,by the way what is the tunnel made of polythene ? noddy57
  • Score: 0

11:33pm Mon 12 May 14

owd nick says...

gazzandste wrote:
Why not knock the David Fishwick stand down and build a new one. Bigger and more modern fill in the corners and add more seats.
Cost, and it won't be ready for the new season, so won't earn you a single penny, planning permission etc.
[quote][p][bold]gazzandste[/bold] wrote: Why not knock the David Fishwick stand down and build a new one. Bigger and more modern fill in the corners and add more seats.[/p][/quote]Cost, and it won't be ready for the new season, so won't earn you a single penny, planning permission etc. owd nick
  • Score: 3

8:14am Tue 13 May 14

A Darener says...

Already the moaners are coming out of the woodwork. Premiership membership demands premiership prices. The club has to make as much money as it can for the next season to provide for the coming years in the wilderness, after the one season of glory.
Already the moaners are coming out of the woodwork. Premiership membership demands premiership prices. The club has to make as much money as it can for the next season to provide for the coming years in the wilderness, after the one season of glory. A Darener
  • Score: 6

9:02am Tue 13 May 14

houseclaret says...

owd nick wrote:
I was going to make a joke about wooden seats but I will desist!

Reading the article and some of the more sensible comments I think you are all missing a point here.

Like Rovers with the Darwen End you are never going to take up your full allocation in this stand, also, home and away fans have to be separated, so you are going to loose seats anyway.

We, and clubs like ours simply don't have the fan base to demand more.

From a financial aspect, especially in the PL it makes sense to allocate a stand to visiting fans, who you will be able to charge a premium, especially to the bigger clubs who are most likely to fill it, and it makes security and policing that much easier.

In the cold, financial light of day I am afraid that fans often come a distant second when money rears it's ugly head, even in the most homely of clubs.

Cynical? yes, but I am speaking from experience.
You're slightly missing the point Nick. As I stated earlier the home sections of the ground last time out in the prem were full for just about every game, including the DF stand. That equates to around 20k home fans. If we lose the DF we lose 2k (ish). Add to that the 500 from the JH and we could be down to around 18k. Last time we had 15k season tickets (in the prem that is). That leaves, roughly, 3k tickets on open sale for any one game. That leaves people like me, thousands of us, scrabbling around for the scraps every match. I can't afford a season ticket (circumstances don't allow me to attend every game anyway so a season ticket would be pointless) so I can see me getting to see a mere handful of games due to this very, very bad decision.
Of course the above figures are approximate but you I'm sure you get the drift.
Incidentally my daughter was pointing out the new season ticket prices last night and it seems we are going to be more expensive to watch than Manchester City. I don't know if this is true but if it is it's ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: I was going to make a joke about wooden seats but I will desist! Reading the article and some of the more sensible comments I think you are all missing a point here. Like Rovers with the Darwen End you are never going to take up your full allocation in this stand, also, home and away fans have to be separated, so you are going to loose seats anyway. We, and clubs like ours simply don't have the fan base to demand more. From a financial aspect, especially in the PL it makes sense to allocate a stand to visiting fans, who you will be able to charge a premium, especially to the bigger clubs who are most likely to fill it, and it makes security and policing that much easier. In the cold, financial light of day I am afraid that fans often come a distant second when money rears it's ugly head, even in the most homely of clubs. Cynical? yes, but I am speaking from experience.[/p][/quote]You're slightly missing the point Nick. As I stated earlier the home sections of the ground last time out in the prem were full for just about every game, including the DF stand. That equates to around 20k home fans. If we lose the DF we lose 2k (ish). Add to that the 500 from the JH and we could be down to around 18k. Last time we had 15k season tickets (in the prem that is). That leaves, roughly, 3k tickets on open sale for any one game. That leaves people like me, thousands of us, scrabbling around for the scraps every match. I can't afford a season ticket (circumstances don't allow me to attend every game anyway so a season ticket would be pointless) so I can see me getting to see a mere handful of games due to this very, very bad decision. Of course the above figures are approximate but you I'm sure you get the drift. Incidentally my daughter was pointing out the new season ticket prices last night and it seems we are going to be more expensive to watch than Manchester City. I don't know if this is true but if it is it's ridiculous. houseclaret
  • Score: 2

9:05am Tue 13 May 14

houseclaret says...

burnleyfan4life wrote:
In actual fact the club would have no problem selling the home alloacation - sold out pretty much all last time in premiership. This is however about supply and demand - The max home support is now just under 18000 capacity -circa 14000 season tickets already sold - season tickets now gone on sales at a higher cost because they can - restrict supply ensures they are sold at the higher price - £685 now where I sit a season (includes £100 retainer for season after - not sure on legality of that??) - Pre end of season the price was £485.- with circa only 4000 tickets available for season tickets and walk ins and pre ordered etc yes the prices will rise - expect some tickets to be £40 per seat next season. Supply and demand - squeeze supply to ensure demand remains high - simple business decision!!
Sad indictment of the Premier league this isn't it? There's me thinking football should be about fans. How deluded I am. You are right though.
[quote][p][bold]burnleyfan4life[/bold] wrote: In actual fact the club would have no problem selling the home alloacation - sold out pretty much all last time in premiership. This is however about supply and demand - The max home support is now just under 18000 capacity -circa 14000 season tickets already sold - season tickets now gone on sales at a higher cost because they can - restrict supply ensures they are sold at the higher price - £685 now where I sit a season (includes £100 retainer for season after - not sure on legality of that??) - Pre end of season the price was £485.- with circa only 4000 tickets available for season tickets and walk ins and pre ordered etc yes the prices will rise - expect some tickets to be £40 per seat next season. Supply and demand - squeeze supply to ensure demand remains high - simple business decision!![/p][/quote]Sad indictment of the Premier league this isn't it? There's me thinking football should be about fans. How deluded I am. You are right though. houseclaret
  • Score: 2

9:51am Tue 13 May 14

McClaret says...

burnleyfan4life wrote:
The new prices are going to be an issue - £685!!!!!! The more I think about it the worse it feels!!! just 19 games remember thats £36.05 per game!! - last year it was £495 or £21.08 per ticket!!! more than a 70% rise!!!
Imagine being the person who works Mondays until 8pm or Saturday evenings from 6pm etc. With the endless variety of kick off times you could end up missing 4 or 5 games, has the club introduced a sell scheme of tickets for non attendees like other premiership clubs do?
If the plan is to fill the stadium then at least lets make sure we do everything possible to make sure and support those fans who buy season tickets but may have to miss games.
[quote][p][bold]burnleyfan4life[/bold] wrote: The new prices are going to be an issue - £685!!!!!! The more I think about it the worse it feels!!! just 19 games remember thats £36.05 per game!! - last year it was £495 or £21.08 per ticket!!! more than a 70% rise!!![/p][/quote]Imagine being the person who works Mondays until 8pm or Saturday evenings from 6pm etc. With the endless variety of kick off times you could end up missing 4 or 5 games, has the club introduced a sell scheme of tickets for non attendees like other premiership clubs do? If the plan is to fill the stadium then at least lets make sure we do everything possible to make sure and support those fans who buy season tickets but may have to miss games. McClaret
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Tue 13 May 14

slants says...

As I stated earlier the home sections of the ground last time out in the prem were full for just about every game, including the DF stand. You are wrong the Gates for the corrupt league were never sold out .The figures were just juggled as usual.The away sections only sold out a couple of times because the filth played about with the numbers they allowed in .
As I stated earlier the home sections of the ground last time out in the prem were full for just about every game, including the DF stand. You are wrong the Gates for the corrupt league were never sold out .The figures were just juggled as usual.The away sections only sold out a couple of times because the filth played about with the numbers they allowed in . slants
  • Score: -2

3:53pm Tue 13 May 14

noddy57 says...

owd nick wrote:
I was going to make a joke about wooden seats but I will desist!

Reading the article and some of the more sensible comments I think you are all missing a point here.

Like Rovers with the Darwen End you are never going to take up your full allocation in this stand, also, home and away fans have to be separated, so you are going to loose seats anyway.

We, and clubs like ours simply don't have the fan base to demand more.

From a financial aspect, especially in the PL it makes sense to allocate a stand to visiting fans, who you will be able to charge a premium, especially to the bigger clubs who are most likely to fill it, and it makes security and policing that much easier.

In the cold, financial light of day I am afraid that fans often come a distant second when money rears it's ugly head, even in the most homely of clubs.

Cynical? yes, but I am speaking from experience.
spot on and there is no getting away from it,Football has become too expensive to follow and its down to greed of the clubs and even more so the players and the supporters I am afraid to say are not even in the picture.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: I was going to make a joke about wooden seats but I will desist! Reading the article and some of the more sensible comments I think you are all missing a point here. Like Rovers with the Darwen End you are never going to take up your full allocation in this stand, also, home and away fans have to be separated, so you are going to loose seats anyway. We, and clubs like ours simply don't have the fan base to demand more. From a financial aspect, especially in the PL it makes sense to allocate a stand to visiting fans, who you will be able to charge a premium, especially to the bigger clubs who are most likely to fill it, and it makes security and policing that much easier. In the cold, financial light of day I am afraid that fans often come a distant second when money rears it's ugly head, even in the most homely of clubs. Cynical? yes, but I am speaking from experience.[/p][/quote]spot on and there is no getting away from it,Football has become too expensive to follow and its down to greed of the clubs and even more so the players and the supporters I am afraid to say are not even in the picture. noddy57
  • Score: 1

6:08pm Tue 13 May 14

noddy57 says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Er no. The teams will emerge between home and visiting supporters. Unless I am misunderstanding the plan !!
Its like the blind leading the blind,,
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Er no. The teams will emerge between home and visiting supporters. Unless I am misunderstanding the plan !![/p][/quote]Its like the blind leading the blind,, noddy57
  • Score: 1

7:19pm Tue 13 May 14

RobH2O says...

noddy57 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Er no. The teams will emerge between home and visiting supporters. Unless I am misunderstanding the plan !!
Its like the blind leading the blind,,
Why, are you doing the leading? Oh, sorry, mate - wrong affliction. Your illiterate aren't you.
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Er no. The teams will emerge between home and visiting supporters. Unless I am misunderstanding the plan !![/p][/quote]Its like the blind leading the blind,,[/p][/quote]Why, are you doing the leading? Oh, sorry, mate - wrong affliction. Your illiterate aren't you. RobH2O
  • Score: 1

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