THE DAILY SPORTS DEBATE: Is the FA Cup still important?

This Is Lancashire: THE DAILY SPORTS DEBATE: Is the FA Cup still important? THE DAILY SPORTS DEBATE: Is the FA Cup still important?

IT’S the FA Cup third round draw this weekend with Blackburn Rovers and Burnley both entering the competition.

Once upon a time the draw would have been one of the highlights of the season and it could still provide supporters of both clubs the chance to see a top Premier League side such as Manchester United or Arsenal come to town.

But how much emphasis do you place on cup runs?

Would you be bothered if your side was the subject of a cup upset come third round day?

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8:19am Thu 5 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

No. New debate please.
No. New debate please. Angry From Accrington

8:46am Thu 5 Dec 13

SteppBladder says...

Yes. It does not have the money the prem has but it can have upsets, exciting games, 'giant'-killing, etc. So, important to a lot of fans (or at least this one) but perhaps not to club owners and managers.
Yes. It does not have the money the prem has but it can have upsets, exciting games, 'giant'-killing, etc. So, important to a lot of fans (or at least this one) but perhaps not to club owners and managers. SteppBladder

8:54am Thu 5 Dec 13

Bazzer says...

Oxford United still give me the shivers.
Oxford United still give me the shivers. Bazzer

12:44pm Thu 5 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Divided thoughts.

It's good to have a decent run but the top clubs very rarely play their first string players, some like Arsenal play their up and coming kids, so there isn't the same level of expectancy if you draw clubs like that.

I no longer look forward to the third round draw because for all but the minnows it has become fairly meaningless, although I do enjoy watching the third round games I gradually drift away, especially when Rovers go out in the 3rd round.

I have been to two FA Cup finals in the past Liverpool v Wimbledon being one but I have to admit that I can't recall having watched a single final for the last 10 years, maybe longer.
Divided thoughts. It's good to have a decent run but the top clubs very rarely play their first string players, some like Arsenal play their up and coming kids, so there isn't the same level of expectancy if you draw clubs like that. I no longer look forward to the third round draw because for all but the minnows it has become fairly meaningless, although I do enjoy watching the third round games I gradually drift away, especially when Rovers go out in the 3rd round. I have been to two FA Cup finals in the past Liverpool v Wimbledon being one but I have to admit that I can't recall having watched a single final for the last 10 years, maybe longer. owd nick

5:48pm Thu 5 Dec 13

no ney never says...

Absolutely it is important. Like the state opening of parliament, bonfire night, etc. It is the celebration of a great British historical event. Given how football has developed over the years it doesn't hold the prestige it once did, but it is no less important. Unfortunately there are going to be seasons when some clubs are not in a position to complete in it in a manner they would like, due to squad availability and/or the only competition more important than the fa cup.....The league. Unfortunately we find ourselves in such a position this season. Football being what it is then you never know, I may see Burnley win it once more before I pop mi clogs.
☆VDT☆
Absolutely it is important. Like the state opening of parliament, bonfire night, etc. It is the celebration of a great British historical event. Given how football has developed over the years it doesn't hold the prestige it once did, but it is no less important. Unfortunately there are going to be seasons when some clubs are not in a position to complete in it in a manner they would like, due to squad availability and/or the only competition more important than the fa cup.....The league. Unfortunately we find ourselves in such a position this season. Football being what it is then you never know, I may see Burnley win it once more before I pop mi clogs. ☆VDT☆ no ney never

9:49pm Thu 5 Dec 13

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup.

Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above.

Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles.

Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful.

Football is eating itself.

Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.
They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup. Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above. Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles. Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful. Football is eating itself. Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions

9:06am Fri 6 Dec 13

Bazzer says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup.

Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above.

Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles.

Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful.

Football is eating itself.

Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.
St Pauli is the team for you.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup. Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above. Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles. Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful. Football is eating itself. Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.[/p][/quote]St Pauli is the team for you. Bazzer

3:07pm Fri 6 Dec 13

GeoRam says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup.

Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above.

Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles.

Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful.

Football is eating itself.

Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.
First sensible thing you've said.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup. Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above. Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles. Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful. Football is eating itself. Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.[/p][/quote]First sensible thing you've said. GeoRam

3:20pm Fri 6 Dec 13

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

GeoRam wrote:
BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp

ions
wrote:
They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup.

Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above.

Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles.

Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful.

Football is eating itself.

Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.
First sensible thing you've said.
And you respond with a snide remark. I knew that would happen.

This is a fcuking awful website.
[quote][p][bold]GeoRam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup. Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above. Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles. Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful. Football is eating itself. Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.[/p][/quote]First sensible thing you've said.[/p][/quote]And you respond with a snide remark. I knew that would happen. This is a fcuking awful website. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions

5:41pm Sun 8 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup.

Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above.

Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles.

Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful.

Football is eating itself.

Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.
Football is indeed eating itself. A very good point. And that's as a direct consequence of the drive to purchase success in the Premier League at an absolute cost to everyone else. The FA Cup is an entirely understandable victim.

Its interesting to look where this phenomenon originated. Oh, yes, of course! Back in the 1990's when the first Millionaire step-in/buy-up owner (now Billionaires of course) "bought" success for one Blackburn Rovers. From all that the modern edifice was created.

Its also salutary to note that, by the end of this season, Rovers will be the ultimate victim of this with appalling set up. With the advent of the transfer embargo, the unsupportable debt, the FFP Fine and the prospect of 1st Division football, that's what one can call the chickens coming home to roost.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: They devalued it with semi finals at Wembley, music, fireworks and streamers when the trophy is lifted - the sanitized, manufactured corporate atmospheres at football grounds up and down the country is utter shogdit.; the final isn't even the last game of the season anymore, no 3pm KO time the list goes on... The FA ruined the cup. Also, the Champions League, finishing top 4 and staying in the PL are far more important. The FA Cup is a relic. They could repair so much damage by getting back to basics and ridding the competition of the above. Ewood Park before a game gives me a headache, bland pop music blaring out before the game, after the game and when the teams come out. I'm a purist. I used top love walking up Bolton Road in the 1980's and hearing The Blackburn End in good voice 15-20 min's before the game or whilst going through the turnstiles. Now you have singing areas, flags are often forbidden it is truly awful. Football is eating itself. Also, 5 comments illustrate that no one really cares about the Cup anymore.[/p][/quote]Football is indeed eating itself. A very good point. And that's as a direct consequence of the drive to purchase success in the Premier League at an absolute cost to everyone else. The FA Cup is an entirely understandable victim. Its interesting to look where this phenomenon originated. Oh, yes, of course! Back in the 1990's when the first Millionaire step-in/buy-up owner (now Billionaires of course) "bought" success for one Blackburn Rovers. From all that the modern edifice was created. Its also salutary to note that, by the end of this season, Rovers will be the ultimate victim of this with appalling set up. With the advent of the transfer embargo, the unsupportable debt, the FFP Fine and the prospect of 1st Division football, that's what one can call the chickens coming home to roost. RobH2O

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