No no no no no no no! Please No!!

I just hope this is paper talk

at the end opf the day ince watches our player day in day out!he knows what we have and still thinks this lad can do a job then you have to back the manager who cares were we are buying him from ince as worked with the lad for three years.
he not a gamble in he eyes!!!
if the lad was called a fancy foriegn name and from a fancy foriegn team you would all be saying brill .
ince gets payed to do a job let him do it and back him with bums on seat on saturday

I'd sooner persuade Fowler to sign than give a LEAGUE 1 player the chance of a lifetime. What does this say about our current midfield? And then the young lads coming through...

At the very most, give him a trial but this is just sending out a bad sign to the fans.

Waste of money - lets hope MK Dons stick to their guns and keep him - it would be an absolute blessing!

very ambitious, a player who no-one wanted even when he was on the transfer list

gosportdunc wrote:
at the end opf the day ince watches our player day in day out!he knows what we have and still thinks this lad can do a job then you have to back the manager who cares were we are buying him from ince as worked with the lad for three years.he not a gamble in he eyes!!!if the lad was called a fancy foriegn name and from a fancy foriegn team you would all be saying brill .ince gets payed to do a job let him do it and back him with bums on seat on saturday

i forgot to say as well i cant belive all the rovers fans that make comment on players they have never seen just because he plays for mk dons
mat derbyshie was playing for great harwood 3 years ago
get the point . dont give coment on thinks you dont know about

I have seen him several times! and frankly, he isnt good enough!

Blue&WhiteHalves wrote:
I just hope this is paper talk

have seen the lad play ?
to give jugement?

gosportdunc wrote:
at the end opf the day ince watches our player day in day out!he knows what we have and still thinks this lad can do a job then you have to back the manager who cares were we are buying him from ince as worked with the lad for three years.he not a gamble in he eyes!!!if the lad was called a fancy foriegn name and from a fancy foriegn team you would all be saying brill .ince gets payed to do a job let him do it and back him with bums on seat on saturday

Although I'm very sceptical about this, I'm keeping an open mind to the situation as well. We've seen nothing yet to make us distrust Ince so if this is true then let's wait to see what happens. None of us know Ince's intentions regarding Fowler or Andrews so it would be harsh to slate him before anything's happened.

Let's get behind the team on Saturday. We are obviously expected to get the win but the team and staff need our full vocal backing to show we're behind them.

Is it just me that can't wait to see what Carlos is capable of? :)

Well said, gosportdunc. I was just going to make the same point. Matty came from the non-league and managed to make the step up without any problems.

Ince is as keen to succeed in this job as we are for Rovers to succeed. He might not have the same attachment to the club that we have, but if he doesn't succeed then it's game over for him. So he's not going to sign players who he thinks have no chance of success. Ince was a top quality midfielder, he has worked with this guy for years - I am pretty sure he has more idea than you lads who get stars in your eyes when you hear foreign names mentioned, but start screaming when it's someone from a lower league who's mentioned. I'll bet you haven't seen either Grella or Andrews play, but because Grella has played in Italy he's automatically worth signing, and we need to steer clear of 1st division player Andrews?

yes ive seen the lad play, last season on sky sports, didnt impress but im a loyal rovers supporter and i will cheer and jeer for the ones who sweat blood and tears for the club. See you all on saturday...

features wrote:
gosportdunc wrote:at the end opf the day ince watches our player day in day out!he knows what we have and still thinks this lad can do a job then you have to back the manager who cares were we are buying him from ince as worked with the lad for three years.he not a gamble in he eyes!!!if the lad was called a fancy foriegn name and from a fancy foriegn team you would all be saying brill .ince gets payed to do a job let him do it and back him with bums on seat on saturday Although I'm very sceptical about this, I'm keeping an open mind to the situation as well. We've seen nothing yet to make us distrust Ince so if this is true then let's wait to see what happens. None of us know Ince's intentions regarding Fowler or Andrews so it would be harsh to slate him before anything's happened.Let's get behind the team on Saturday. We are obviously expected to get the win but the team and staff need our full vocal backing to show we're behind them.Is it just me that can't wait to see what Carlos is capable of? :)

cant wait to see him have a look at these vids of him looks first class
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To be fair to the lad i watched him play a couple of times last season and he really doesn't belong in the lower divisions, i think he could be good back up for us. I'm really looking forward to the Hull game and i hope it doesn't disappoint

Super Keith!

Who ever Ince signs whether they play in Premier League or for a Sunday League pub team i will be cheering the lads on!

My best mate is an MK fan (someones got to be) and he thinks we might be surprised. I'm happy to give him a chance...

The weekend`s victory away at Everton marked what could be a defining moment in the early Blackburn Rovers career of Paul Ince.

Ever since the self-titled Guv`nor - who has now distanced himself from that moniker - took the fast track from League Two to the Premiership via a very brief introduction to League One, he has been quietly going about his business. Well this would have been the case but for the malcontent masquerading as speculation and conjecture, conjured by some quarters of the English press.

Ince would appear to have been the victim of a hate campaign designed to smear his introduction to top-flight management. Baptism of fire is a term that has been banded around copious previews, reviews and descriptions of Ince`s early days in charge of Rovers.

Whilst the majority of the English press don this apt phrase, it is the same people who have created the furore and spurious image of life at Ewood under Ince that lends itself to this popular idiom.

Without hunting down and outing all the sources of these claims of players wanting out, not liking Ince`s approach and creating splinter factions we will never know the absolute truth but I pose the question: who has actually spoken of their discontent of life at Ewood?

I`m yet to hear it. David Bentley always spoke of bettering himself as a player and good look to him whereas Brad Friedel spoke about having an offer he couldn`t refuse. Nothing there of a star player speaking out against Ince.

Further to this Stephen Warnock, who is angling for a move to Newcastle according to some quarters of the press, spoke of his happiness at Rovers only a month ago. Then there is Roque Santa Cruz who is going to approach Rovers to ask for a transfer. Has this happened? No.

The display on Saturday served to give two-fingers to some sections of the press who could be accused of having an agenda that wouldn`t be out of place in football 30 years ago or in Spain.

Why there has been such ill-feeling generated from loose stories and unnamed sources pose some awkward questions that rear the ugly head of a term that has been attached to Ince`s appointment since day one.

Considering how little activity there has been at Ewood - two departures and just three first team acquisitions, two of which are youngsters - the amount of controversy and column inches afforded to Rovers has been surprising.

Ince has even been giving messrs Ronaldo, Adebayor and Barry a run for their money in the press stakes even though his forays into the transfer market have been few and far between.

His appointment was never going to saunter under the radar but this sort of doom-mongering hasn`t greeted a top-flight manager for years.

The jury is still out for Ince as a manager but that is what he should be measured on and he has been vociferous in requesting this from people. People have been meddling in affairs at Ewood this summer, which has seen complete lies published (note the Stephen Warnock transfer request reports) and could have severely harmed preparations for the smallest town club in the Premiership.

Still Saturday spoke volumes of these inaccurate reports as togetherness was on show from the whole team.

I wait with bated breath for the next few games but hopefully the win at Everton and more importantly the team unity on show will help give Ince some respite and quell the malcontent emanating from some sections of the press.

Give the lad a chance. Remember when we signed a norwich reserve called Tim Sherwood?

Lets be honest who has actually seen him play ? i havnt so couldnt possible start to give a negative attitude towards this player. most players start of with smaller teams and then make the move to the big time. So why should andrews be any different I would much rather have a young and fit andrews over an old and past it fowler. Lets watch him play for rovers before judging this proposed signing.

There's one person who I'd trust on whether he'd be a good addition to our midfield or not and that's Paul Ince.

I'm not suddenly going to take the opinion of some bod who watches the odd game or two over one of the best midfielders in the world in his day.

He's not costing mega bucks so I really don't see people's problem.

As you may have noticed I'm from Bedford. Milton Keynes is 20 minutes down the road and I went to watch them play Dag + Red last season and they thumped them 4-0. I thought he controlled their play and dominated everything that went through the middle.

I'm no scout, neither am I an ex-England midfielder so I'm not the best to ask. What we do have is an ex-England midfielder as a manger and a full range of scouts. So hows about we trust them until we've actually got reason to worry?

Up the Rovers!! We want a win on Saturday and progress in the cup come this time next week. 3 out of 3 wouldn't be bad would it?

Finger Bang wrote:
There's one person who I'd trust on whether he'd be a good addition to our midfield or not and that's Paul Ince. I'm not suddenly going to take the opinion of some bod who watches the odd game or two over one of the best midfielders in the world in his day.He's not costing mega bucks so I really don't see people's problem.

couldn't agree more, well said. I've seen a lot of positives so far, losing Brad being the only negative and maybe Fowler

England's brilliant under 21 star Matty Derbyshire might be the first man named after a county since David Essex, but he's a fantastic little striker. Hugely underused at Ewood, I was glad to see him on the bench for Rovers' opener last week, and expected him to play a big part in Ince's first season. Hell, he could have even played for England last night, it would have made things more exciting.

However, it now seems he might be farmed out to Blackpool on loan. If this happens it will be an incredible coup for the satsumas as he'll score a hatful at this level.

The story has come from The Blackpool Gazette, and I'd love to hear from some tangerine folk on whether the paper is a usually reliable source.

To be fair Blackpool could be the best thing that ever happened to Derbyshire's career. He won't have to up-roots for a couple of months, the games will boost his confidence, and he'd struggle to find a better manager than Mr Grayson to help develop his game.

"We are still looking and if someone becomes available who I like then we will look to do something," revealed SG, in the paper. Well I say "revealed" - he's not really revealing much. he did however add, "The chairman doesn't like spending the money but it has to be done," which was quite funny really

Exactly - Ince is to be trusted, especially in the midfield department. What reason is there so far not to trust his judgement? The team was a revelation on Saturday so fingers crossed for another buccaneering win against the Tigers.

Wonder why we might be interested in Zigic as previously reported. Surely with 4 strikers + Fowler possibly, we've enough.... Just paper talk?

how can u go from wolves to hull to mk dons, and then your ready for blackburn and the premier league?? i dont get it!! and then you wont buy anthony annan who is 22 by the way, many top clubs watching him and plays regular for ghana!! and andrews who is hopeful of earning an international call-up for Ireland.......
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Thos of you calling for Rovers fans to show faith in Ince are exactly spot on. He is the International-class midfielder and he is the one who has worked with Andrews for the last year or so. Also, he has likely had scouts watch him since. Ok, so one or two people on here might have seen him play once and he was tripe, but who's to say he had a good game? Nobody plays well in every game. Also, Sky Sports is not the same, as you only see where the ball is, not what he might be doing off the ball.

To those negative posters - Stop trying to run Ince down at every opportunity - he's given us a winning start at a team who finished above us last year, in a game where most of us would have taken a point. He has had enough to deal with from the media without so-called fans constantly criticising too.

If the guy is costing a mere £500000 up front then it's hardly something worth worrying about. I understand he's an attacking midfielder so Ince will presumably still be after Grella or another defensive midfielder anyway.

for once i am going to voice my views with a simple

no comment!!!! now i am off to mince around and get plastard all weekend.. happy pride 2008 people love to you all!!

Robbie wrote:
for once i am going to voice my views with a simpleno comment!!!! now i am off to mince around and get plastard all weekend.. happy pride 2008 people love to you all!!

Well you learn something new about people every day

Would rather we signed this Annan he's younger but if Ince thinks Andrews is good enough then fair enough time will tell. P.S WE DON'T NEED NO ROBBIE FOWLER!

Finger Bang wrote:
There's one person who I'd trust on whether he'd be a good addition to our midfield or not and that's Paul Ince. I'm not suddenly going to take the opinion of some bod who watches the odd game or two over one of the best midfielders in the world in his day.He's not costing mega bucks so I really don't see people's problem.

wasnt mark hughes regarded as one of the finest strikers in his day? and he signed jeffers!

dont talk crap the lads 27 and he has dropped down the leagues couldnt make it in the chumpionship with wolves so how the hell is he gonna cut it in the premier?

lets have abit of ambition hey and look a little bit higher!

Trust Ince - If we do sign Andrews reserve judgment until he's settled in and played a few games. Ince should know a good midfielder when he see's one and I cant see Ince getting this wrong. For the money being mentioned, I think he will be a good "squad" player and for all the players that have been on trial at Ewood lately, this guys name is continuously being linked and Ince is not rushing into buying anybody which seems to lend to the idea that he still thinks that this guy is as good if not better than what is currently available to buy. As for Anthony Annan, he is currently linked with Arsenal, Man Utd, Racing Santander in Spain and countless other teams - yet nothing. I'm sure that he is a good player but there must be something that we don't know about that is preventing teams from buying him, because if he was the new Michael Essien then he would have been bought a long time ago by one of the big boys. This guy was on Mark Hughes radar last season whilst at Blackburn, yet he didn't buy him then and then this year teams are still looking but not taking the plunge - Why?
With limited money to spend, Ince is not getting carried away and is looking for the best value for money deals possible and whoever he brings in for midfield, beit Andrews, Annan, Grella etc, I'm sure that it will be shrewd business and will strengthen the squad. For me the most important position to fill is right wing with a player with pace needed. We have ample cover with Emerton and Reid being able to play in this position butI believe that the bulk of our kitty will be spent on this position. Joaquin or a SWPhillips etc would strengthen our squad considerably with pace and creativity and in turn give the squad and fans a real buzz.

Career to date, Wolves to Hull £0 (after various loans to lower league clubs), Hull to MK Dons £0, MK Dons to Rovers £1.3?? Oh dear.
I agree there has to be an element of trust but hey, lets be realistic the majority of us do would prefer a higher calibre signing or someone with age on there side and potential. As for the comparisons with Matty D playing for Gt Harwood 3 years ago - he will have been around 18/19 then, not 25. PS, Has Wobby pulled sulk now 'only' being offered a pay as you play? Seems to haev gone quiet. Perhaps he might have to run a bit in order to buy his next toxteth terrace....

Have faith in the guv'nor.

Ince has been in the game at a professional level since he was fourteen years old. If he thinks Andrews is up to the job - for whatever reason - that's good enough for me.

Get behind the boss, get behind the team and save your judgment for when the team consistently fails to perform.

We made a promising start last week - unlike Spurs, or Portsmouth, or Man City, or even Arsenal, for that matter - and we should expect to beat Hull at the weekend and realistically see off West Ham the following week.

Ince is a new manager and in the glare of some seriously intense spotlights. He won't do anything unless he is sure. Have faith, and hold-back on the unfounded, jumping-on-the-band-
wagon, rent-a-sound-bite, tabloid doom-and-gloom drivel.

I don't know whether Andrews would be good enough or not. I did hear (Radio 5) a group of Div 1 managers - including John Ward of Carlisle - agree that Andrews was the most outstanding player in his Division. Of course we can't assume he'll cut it in the Prem but he may be a useful asset.

This situation reminds me of Nicky Marker - a seasoned lower league pro - bought from Plymouth by Kenny Dalglish, and Marker was a very capable grafter and squad player when he was used. Although younger, super-Atko also came from Scunthorpe and went all the way to the Prem winning team.

We are fed the line that the Prem is the greatest league in the world, but look at last season's FA Cup where squad strength was exposed by the number of teams dumped out by lower league sides (us included).

Although a few generations ago (1966!) Man City bought a 32 year old from Plymouth - his only other club was Bath City. In four years, he had held up the English champions trophy, FA Cup and European Cup Winners Cup (Tony Book) Sometimes the right manager, the right squad, the right role and the right time can unearth a diamond.

From the 70s - Tony Field - bought by cash-strapped third-tier Rovers from fourth-tier Southport. He made it to the top flight in England and finished up at New York Cosmos alongside Pele and Beckenbauer

I don't know if we'll sign Andrews, or if he'll be any good, but I'll be happy to wait and see.

If, say, we do sign Andrews, I don't think anybody is expecting/has promised him an automatic place in midfield. He could be a useful addition to our squad.
And for all those people pouring scorn on his career so far, I would only offer the words "Jimmy" and "Bullard", who, if I remember correctly began his career with Peterborough before being part of Wigan's ascent up the leagues - I'm feel it's often a question of having the right manager to bring the best out of a player - remember how we lost Dunnie for a season or two when Souness got rid of him?

Matt Derbyshire was much younger but 27 is late to step up. Trust Ince yes but it should be on a loan or pay as play basis with a view to a perm transfer. Otherwise this is a big sum for Incey's old club and a risk for Rovers.

1.3 million you could get a good up and coming young prospect for less than that,they have seen us coming,we definately need a Director of Football to get Ince away from the transfer dealings.

jukes wrote:
Finger Bang wrote:
There's one person who I'd trust on whether he'd be a good addition to our midfield or not and that's Paul Ince. I'm not suddenly going to take the opinion of some bod who watches the odd game or two over one of the best midfielders in the world in his day.He's not costing mega bucks so I really don't see people's problem.wasnt mark hughes regarded as one of the finest strikers in his day? and he signed jeffers!

dont talk crap the lads 27 and he has dropped down the leagues couldnt make it in the chumpionship with wolves so how the hell is he gonna cut it in the premier?

lets have abit of ambition hey and look a little bit higher!

Mark Hughes was definitely regarded as one of the finest strikers of his day. Yes he signed Jeffers, but I seem to recall we actually made a profit on him in the end.

Hughes also signed Benni for £2.5m and Roque for £3.5m. Benni is currently being touted at £8-9m and Roque is worth £20m.

Need I say more?

Sorry should say that Roque is worth at least £20m.

Ah - Tony Field - thirty odd years down the line and still one of my favourite Rovers strikers. Will never forget the goal he scored in the 5-0 win against Watford - it was better than the one Best scored v Sheff Utd that BBC have replayed millions of times. What a shame it was never captured on TV for posterity.

I can't say I'm either for or against this signing, if it happens.

Plenty of players have made the step up and failed, some have made it...Matty being one, though much younger. I too think Andrews reminds me of Nicky Marker who did nothing for us.

On the upside, I've always believed that as a club, we've nearly always got more out of players with something to prove.

Hopefully, if we sign him, it won't signal a lack of ambition. Being linked with Joquain is great, but atually signing fowler and andrews could compound this.

Blue Rover wrote:
Robbie wrote:for once i am going to voice my views with a simpleno comment!!!! now i am off to mince around and get plastard all weekend.. happy pride 2008 people love to you all!!Well you learn something new about people every day

aye ya really do.. now i am off to recover from my hangover haha

Andy Blackburn End wrote:
Ah - Tony Field - thirty odd years down the line and still one of my
favourite Rovers strikers. Will never forget the goal he scored in the
5-0 win against Watford - it was better than the one Best scored v
Sheff Utd that BBC have replayed millions of times. What a shame it was
never captured on TV for posterity.

Andy - did you see TF's goal at Rochdale in the 70's when he started from the corner flag and beat the entire defence. Closest I have seen is the one the BBC always show of Leeds Eddie Gray beating the Clarets defence twice!

30 YEARS AND COUNTING