Young drinkers using Facebook to arrange drinking sessions (From This Is Lancashire)

cop the kids and make the parents pay

PS I thought you had to be a certain age to sign up for a Facebook account. Big security gap here methinks

oftbewildered2 wrote:
PS I thought you had to be a certain age to sign up for a Facebook account. Big security gap here methinks

And to buy alcohol.

parents are so addicted to facebook and are to blame for kids following by example.

Poor parenting is mainly the problem, out of sight out of mind, seems to be their motto.
It is these sort of young girls that are prime for sex grooming, their parents should be aware of what their children are up to when they return home, worse for drink

oftbewildered2,Phil from Smithills,
Don't mean to be rude but have you got children of your own???

Also i have 5 children of my own ranging from 25 down to 16yrs old, I've fetched them up on my own for the last 16yrs!! Eldest to have jobs! ! girl got 1 kid the other daughter currently unemployed but has had a job!! and the youngest is currently in college!!
I live in the rumworth area (wich i call the Daubill area) and yes my kids do go on Willows!! but people like u think u know it all I DO know where my kids are!!! so u can't go around blaming the parenting all of the time I am certainly not in that CATEGORY!!!!

Five children, single parent family where all of the kids fathers have left. One kid's already had a kid of their own and all 5 have had fleeting moments of employment. Somehow, I don't see these kids being pillars of society. These are exactly the sort of kids the article refers to (albeit now older).

Why would you even have five kids?

Excuse me you arrogant person you don't even know me for starters.

All 5 of my children have the same FATHER!!! and i have worked so whom do you think you are!!!

P.S still not answered the question to whether you had kids??.

well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

tinaarena7331 wrote:
oftbewildered2,Phil from Smithills,
Don't mean to be rude but have you got children of your own???

Also i have 5 children of my own ranging from 25 down to 16yrs old, I've fetched them up on my own for the last 16yrs!! Eldest to have jobs! ! girl got 1 kid the other daughter currently unemployed but has had a job!! and the youngest is currently in college!!
I live in the rumworth area (wich i call the Daubill area) and yes my kids do go on Willows!! but people like u think u know it all I DO know where my kids are!!! so u can't go around blaming the parenting all of the time I am certainly not in that CATEGORY!!!!

YOU gooooooo! totally agreee if there were things for us to do we wouldnt go on parks at weekends but theres not!

tinaarena7331 wrote:
oftbewildered2,Phil from Smithills,
Don't mean to be rude but have you got children of your own???

Also i have 5 children of my own ranging from 25 down to 16yrs old, I've fetched them up on my own for the last 16yrs!! Eldest to have jobs! ! girl got 1 kid the other daughter currently unemployed but has had a job!! and the youngest is currently in college!!
I live in the rumworth area (wich i call the Daubill area) and yes my kids do go on Willows!! but people like u think u know it all I DO know where my kids are!!! so u can't go around blaming the parenting all of the time I am certainly not in that CATEGORY!!!!

you are obviously a good example - but many aren't and it is these who need to be brought to book. I did not say it was ALL parents, only those who did not seem to be doing the right thing by their kids. I did not take your query as rude, as I know this is a touchy subject. 2 kids and 4 grandchildren in reply to your query.

tinaarena7331 wrote:
oftbewildered2,Phil from Smithills, Don't mean to be rude but have you got children of your own??? Also i have 5 children of my own ranging from 25 down to 16yrs old, I've fetched them up on my own for the last 16yrs!! Eldest to have jobs! ! girl got 1 kid the other daughter currently unemployed but has had a job!! and the youngest is currently in college!! I live in the rumworth area (wich i call the Daubill area) and yes my kids do go on Willows!! but people like u think u know it all I DO know where my kids are!!! so u can't go around blaming the parenting all of the time I am certainly not in that CATEGORY!!!!

very well said my friend.

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

never heard as much rubbish,that shows your just a big kid.grow up or shut up.

I live opposite Leverhulme Park , these children come from Little Lever, Breightmet, Tonge & Darcy Lever. After a few too many (or those that cannot handle the alcohol) become very intimidating. Only a few weeks ago a car was smashed near to midnight on the car park. Some mornings you can walk on the park and there are are some which have slept in the wooden climbing frame over night (which the council have now taped off). Surely their parents are wondering where they are??

We had the same problem last summer until the police started to police the area.

Using Facebook to arrange this sort of thing is deplorable. We used to arrange it in school, behind the bike-sheds during a quick fag and unprotected sex break, and then stick to the arrangement.

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

Sorry, Chelc, that was just a noise. All I got there was "broken homes". And a broken home is not an excuse for evil.

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

How come teenagers can never think of anything to do? Why is it always adults that have to provide stuff for teenagers to do, as if these kids are drooling retards with no creative or imaginative skills? No wonder half of them can't get jobs or function properly as adults. In your case "chelc", you could perhaps do some reading and improve upon your awful, awful spelling.

tinaarena7331 wrote:
Excuse me you arrogant person you don't even know me for starters.

All 5 of my children have the same FATHER!!! and i have worked so whom do you think you are!!!

P.S still not answered the question to whether you had kids??.

You seem to have confused me for someone else love. No doubt you're claiming benefits and the majority of your kids are too. Why have five kids? Surely even chavs realise that they'll have to divide their money, time and attention too much to properly care for and raise those children? So yes, I'm intrigued. Once you'd already had two kids, why have a third? Why have a fourth? Why have a fifth?

Teenagers have been going to the park to drink cider since apples grew on trees. There is nothing new here. And certainly nothing to get worked up about. The only startling new revelation is that they are arranging to meet each other via Facebook. Which for some reason the BN think newsworthy.

ke1979 wrote:
Teenagers have been going to the park to drink cider since apples grew on trees. There is nothing new here. And certainly nothing to get worked up about. The only startling new revelation is that they are arranging to meet each other via Facebook. Which for some reason the BN think newsworthy.

got to agree it's been going on forever
kid number 1 asks parents to stop at kid number 2's
kid number 2 asks parents to stop at kid number 1's and do something completely different

now we have facebook where kids spell out there daily lives it's hardly surprising they arrange this sort of thing
i don't agree with it and i certainly wouldn't let my lot do it it's very easy to pick up a phone to check with other parents that they are doing what the say
all i can say is some parents must be too trusting or just can't be bothered to make sure

oftbewildered2 wrote:

tinaarena7331 wrote:
oftbewildered2,Phil from Smithills,
Don't mean to be rude but have you got children of your own???

Also i have 5 children of my own ranging from 25 down to 16yrs old, I've fetched them up on my own for the last 16yrs!! Eldest to have jobs! ! girl got 1 kid the other daughter currently unemployed but has had a job!! and the youngest is currently in college!!
I live in the rumworth area (wich i call the Daubill area) and yes my kids do go on Willows!! but people like u think u know it all I DO know where my kids are!!! so u can't go around blaming the parenting all of the time I am certainly not in that CATEGORY!!!!

you are obviously a good example - but many aren't and it is these who need to be brought to book. I did not say it was ALL parents, only those who did not seem to be doing the right thing by their kids. I did not take your query as rude, as I know this is a touchy subject. 2 kids and 4 grandchildren in reply to your query.

oftbewildered2
Sorry about that i did get u confused with some one else mostly the man from Smithalls (born with a silver spoon in his mouth !!) (Thanks!!!!for comment means alot) you can't judge the parent's it's been hard fetching them up with morals and respect but what i meant is every one of mine have a different personality!! i learn t with one of mine it's called (MIRROR IMAGE!) treat people how you wish to be treated!! and believe it or not it does work!! so MR Smithalls stick your silver spoon down your throat !!! obviously you even haven't got kids or you have had everything done for you all your life!! (And as for smithalls u think your stuck up but your not Ladybridge used to be called Jam butty estate!! cause they all thought they where better than everyone else look at that estate now!! same has Smithalls!!! Moral of this is don't judge anyone unless you been there!! Thanks oftbewildered2 for your inspiration hope your kids and grand kids turn out good! just to proof these snotty nose stuck up people to get a grip of today's society!!

MarkAllRead wrote:

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

How come teenagers can never think of anything to do? Why is it always adults that have to provide stuff for teenagers to do, as if these kids are drooling retards with no creative or imaginative skills? No wonder half of them can't get jobs or function properly as adults. In your case "chelc", you could perhaps do some reading and improve upon your awful, awful spelling.

|Who do u think you are MarkAllRead!!!
it's people like you whom put the kids of this generation down!! you don't chelc mathers !! so who do you think you are to judge her !! (you wonder why kids turn out the way they are!!) try encouraging them instead of putting them down!!

chelc mathers wrote:

tinaarena7331 wrote:
oftbewildered2,Phil from Smithills,
Don't mean to be rude but have you got children of your own???

Also i have 5 children of my own ranging from 25 down to 16yrs old, I've fetched them up on my own for the last 16yrs!! Eldest to have jobs! ! girl got 1 kid the other daughter currently unemployed but has had a job!! and the youngest is currently in college!!
I live in the rumworth area (wich i call the Daubill area) and yes my kids do go on Willows!! but people like u think u know it all I DO know where my kids are!!! so u can't go around blaming the parenting all of the time I am certainly not in that CATEGORY!!!!

YOU gooooooo! totally agreee if there were things for us to do we wouldnt go on parks at weekends but theres not!

Thanks chelc mathers I'm only speaking the truth.
There's a derelict land just down street from me been there e nearly 3yrs now and all it's down has been used for a tipping area if they made a youth club or something positive out of it for today's generation well may be they'd change!! you can only try ??

Absolute rubish, there is plenty for the kids to do, the fact is they want to drink alcohol, smoke, sniff bubble and smoke weed. The fact is that society will not allow that in youth clubs, pubs, or anywhere for that matter.

The problem isnt the going on the park for a few beers and a shag it is the smashing of stuff up, the burning of the play equipment the rubbish that is left behind and the damge to cars and houses that happens when the **** up kids leave the park.

Just have a look at these two kids on facebook

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tinaarena7331 wrote:

MarkAllRead wrote:

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

How come teenagers can never think of anything to do? Why is it always adults that have to provide stuff for teenagers to do, as if these kids are drooling retards with no creative or imaginative skills? No wonder half of them can't get jobs or function properly as adults. In your case "chelc", you could perhaps do some reading and improve upon your awful, awful spelling.

|Who do u think you are MarkAllRead!!!
it's people like you whom put the kids of this generation down!! you don't chelc mathers !! so who do you think you are to judge her !! (you wonder why kids turn out the way they are!!) try encouraging them instead of putting them down!!

we cant think of anything to do coz there is nothing to do you absoulte tool, and as for spellin i can spell i jus choose to use slang coz i can. and as for jobs i bet if u didnt already have a job u wouldnt b able to get one either so pike down and crawl back under the stone you obv's came from.

macauley wrote:

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

never heard as much rubbish,that shows your just a big kid.grow up or shut up.

and what if im a big kid and you tell me one thing that teenagers can do at a weekend then. dont tel me to shutup you no nothing you just think your right coz your older then me wel sort it you inconsiderate idiot.

I, Ludicrous wrote:

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

Sorry, Chelc, that was just a noise. All I got there was "broken homes". And a broken home is not an excuse for evil.

what does that even mean seriously? broken homes?

ke1979 wrote:
Teenagers have been going to the park to drink cider since apples grew on trees. There is nothing new here. And certainly nothing to get worked up about. The only startling new revelation is that they are arranging to meet each other via Facebook. Which for some reason the BN think newsworthy.

amen.

tinaarena7331 wrote:

MarkAllRead wrote:

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

How come teenagers can never think of anything to do? Why is it always adults that have to provide stuff for teenagers to do, as if these kids are drooling retards with no creative or imaginative skills? No wonder half of them can't get jobs or function properly as adults. In your case "chelc", you could perhaps do some reading and improve upon your awful, awful spelling.

|Who do u think you are MarkAllRead!!!
it's people like you whom put the kids of this generation down!! you don't chelc mathers !! so who do you think you are to judge her !! (you wonder why kids turn out the way they are!!) try encouraging them instead of putting them down!!

thankyou!

atlas123 wrote:
Absolute rubish, there is plenty for the kids to do, the fact is they want to drink alcohol, smoke, sniff bubble and smoke weed. The fact is that society will not allow that in youth clubs, pubs, or anywhere for that matter.

The problem isnt the going on the park for a few beers and a shag it is the smashing of stuff up, the burning of the play equipment the rubbish that is left behind and the damge to cars and houses that happens when the **** up kids leave the park.

Just have a look at these two kids on facebook

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no there is not loads for us to do, would love to know where you live! and hahaha i know them why you puttin peoples pictures off facebook on this childish? and iv never damaged a car or house so dont see what the problem is and as for the rubbish there rubbish everywhere its bolton fgs. get used to it you arragont person.

The fact that there is a litter problem does not mean you can add to it by smashing your vodka, lambrini, wine or beer bottles on the kids play area, or by throwing your frostyjacks bottle on the floor.


Tell us, what would you like to be provided for you?

I have shown the picture of two of your friends standing on / damaging a police car to show the type of halfwitted, disresectful childish idiots that they are.

You call me childish... Take a look at your friends above!

tinaarena7331 wrote:

MarkAllRead wrote:

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

How come teenagers can never think of anything to do? Why is it always adults that have to provide stuff for teenagers to do, as if these kids are drooling retards with no creative or imaginative skills? No wonder half of them can't get jobs or function properly as adults. In your case "chelc", you could perhaps do some reading and improve upon your awful, awful spelling.

|Who do u think you are MarkAllRead!!!
it's people like you whom put the kids of this generation down!! you don't chelc mathers !! so who do you think you are to judge her !! (you wonder why kids turn out the way they are!!) try encouraging them instead of putting them down!!

You're right, I don't know you, I don't know "chelc". I'm simply judging people on what they post and the ill-educated, badly spelled drivel that they post, yourself included.

chelc mathers wrote:

tinaarena7331 wrote:

MarkAllRead wrote:

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

How come teenagers can never think of anything to do? Why is it always adults that have to provide stuff for teenagers to do, as if these kids are drooling retards with no creative or imaginative skills? No wonder half of them can't get jobs or function properly as adults. In your case "chelc", you could perhaps do some reading and improve upon your awful, awful spelling.

|Who do u think you are MarkAllRead!!!
it's people like you whom put the kids of this generation down!! you don't chelc mathers !! so who do you think you are to judge her !! (you wonder why kids turn out the way they are!!) try encouraging them instead of putting them down!!

we cant think of anything to do coz there is nothing to do you absoulte tool, and as for spellin i can spell i jus choose to use slang coz i can. and as for jobs i bet if u didnt already have a job u wouldnt b able to get one either so pike down and crawl back under the stone you obv's came from.

Clearly you can't spell and most of your spelling aberrations are not slang related. Pretending that you're doing it on purpose is a classic excuse spouted by those who genuinely haven't a clue. I have a job and I could easily get another should I so choose. That's because I have a career and skills that are useful and in demand. I worked at school and I didn't spend my evenings drinking cider in the park smashing up kids' play areas.

tinaarena7331 wrote:

chelc mathers wrote:

tinaarena7331 wrote:
oftbewildered2,Phil from Smithills,
Don't mean to be rude but have you got children of your own???

Also i have 5 children of my own ranging from 25 down to 16yrs old, I've fetched them up on my own for the last 16yrs!! Eldest to have jobs! ! girl got 1 kid the other daughter currently unemployed but has had a job!! and the youngest is currently in college!!
I live in the rumworth area (wich i call the Daubill area) and yes my kids do go on Willows!! but people like u think u know it all I DO know where my kids are!!! so u can't go around blaming the parenting all of the time I am certainly not in that CATEGORY!!!!

YOU gooooooo! totally agreee if there were things for us to do we wouldnt go on parks at weekends but theres not!

Thanks chelc mathers I'm only speaking the truth.
There's a derelict land just down street from me been there e nearly 3yrs now and all it's down has been used for a tipping area if they made a youth club or something positive out of it for today's generation well may be they'd change!! you can only try ??

Why is it always "they", who have to do something about it? Why do these kinds of people just have that 'victim' mentality where everything is someone else's fault and if it's not handed to them, they feel hard done to? Why can't the community get off its arse, show a bit of organisation, will and effort and do something about it themselves?

i have never been on willows or leverhulme but i think the fact you think every youngster is the same is abit out of order plus what do you expect kids to do on a weekend?sit in on their xbox,then you will complain there addicted to computers,we cant win.

Where did I say that "every youngster is the same"? Where did this "fact" come from? I'm not out of order because that's not what I've said, nor implied. You seem to have reading and comprehension levels on a par with your writing skills and those of "tinaarena7331" and "chelc".

chelc mathers wrote:

macauley wrote:

chelc mathers wrote: well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

never heard as much rubbish,that shows your just a big kid.grow up or shut up.

and what if im a big kid and you tell me one thing that teenagers can do at a weekend then. dont tel me to shutup you no nothing you just think your right coz your older then me wel sort it you inconsiderate idiot.

i think i can hear your mummy and daddie calling you in its past your bed time pleb.

been there, done that, whats the difference with kids doing it now

been there, done that, whats the difference with kids doing it now

It's hard to pin blame on anyone really but young people need motivational parents. Parents who will push them. Make them believe they can be what ever they want too be and make them shy away from this kind of stuff.

 Going out drinking at a weekend is appealing to them as it's makes them feel like adults. I'd personally probably back them that there isn't enough for them to do. Ok they can go to the pics or the lazer quest but there are seven days in a week and doing that isn't cheap for adults let alone children. What are they suppose to do for the next six nights. Ok they should be studying aswell but I wouldn't expect them to have to do that from the moment they wake up to the moment they sleep, every day. 

It's hard but I think the older people in their life have to lead by example and quite often they don't. Their "role models" are on music videos drinking, partying and having sex. There are hundreds of people on the news after  coming out of the clubs and pubs and causing trouble after they have had a few. All adults! What does that say to them?

Put them all in the cadets and the army for basic discipline and respect !

Rawenergy wrote:
Put them all in the cadets and the army for basic discipline and respect !

That's a good idea. Also, excercise - why not join a football/athletics/t
ennis/sports club? Why not get involved mentoring younger kids at the Lad's and Girl's club? Why not spend an hour each night on homework? Why not invest some time and energy on a sel-devised project (build a go-cart, tidy up part of your community etc...if you ring the Bolton News you'll probably get your photo in the paper! Kudos!). There's lots of things for young people to do.

I'm not saying I never got wrecked on a park when I was a kid, but we certainly didn't smash the place up, abuse residents/police, damage property etc. Some people my age did, and now their kids are behaving exponentially worse than their parents, their kids will do the same until the only sane course of action will be to chemically sterilise them (or....and hear me out here...we could put them all on an island, Jersey for example, and let them fend for themselves. Then we film and broadcast the whole thing 24/7. We could call it 'Chave Island, and every now and again we could deposit a Celebrity Chav onto it, Jordan or the chubby blonde chick who used to be in Atomic Kitten. It'd make the licence fee worth every penny).

Or we could go on the internet and complain.

Oh yeah, chelc....i'm a maths teacher, do you fancy a free holiday because you sound right up my street :)

Hahaha

So you've got these kids, moaning that they've nothing to do because they haven't got facilities, then they react by smashing up the facilities that have been created for other children . Repairing this costs money, ergo no money to create facilities for the older kids. Yeah, real smart these kids are.

chelc mathers wrote:
well maybe if there were things for us to do, we wouldnt go on leverhulme and drink, and i dont see how its causin a nusence were on a huge park fgs, and 12-15 yea okay dunno what park u goin to there aint one 12 yr old on there wen iv bein on! haha i thought it was more like playin tig not cat n mouse! :@

Sorry but how old are you? Drinking on parks at any age is disrespectful to the residents of these areas but also ruining facilities for younger children. It's no wonder the council are forced to close so many of these parks or take down play areas as this kind of behaviour generally leads to mindless vandalism and costs too much to keep fixing/replacing. As for having 'nothing to do' chelc... Perhaps pester you're parents for money to go to the cinema and things instead of wasting you're life sat on a park in the pitch black and cold getting wasted. It is so sad that children don't aspire to greater things these days.

This is ridiculous. No I don't agree with them smashing up the playground, that is unacceptable, but I'm sick of hearing about the "kids today" we're not all the same. Yes I used to meet my friends at the weekend and drink on the park, but we didn't vandalise anything or cause any mayhem. Why are we all placed in the same category? Just the fact that this is even in the newspaper is ludicrous, surely there is something better to write about! We could tar you all with the same brush and say that all the older generation are stuck up, as it seems like all you want to do is pick little things to slander us "kids today" with.

MarkAllRead wrote:
Five children, single parent family where all of the kids fathers have left. One kid's already had a kid of their own and all 5 have had fleeting moments of employment. Somehow, I don't see these kids being pillars of society. These are exactly the sort of kids the article refers to (albeit now older).

Why would you even have five kids?

Who are you to judge? Do you even know this person? And you're saying the kids aren't being "pillars of society". Take a look in the mirror you rude man.

AlixAmy wrote:

MarkAllRead wrote:
Five children, single parent family where all of the kids fathers have left. One kid's already had a kid of their own and all 5 have had fleeting moments of employment. Somehow, I don't see these kids being pillars of society. These are exactly the sort of kids the article refers to (albeit now older).

Why would you even have five kids?

Who are you to judge? Do you even know this person? And you're saying the kids aren't being "pillars of society". Take a look in the mirror you rude man.

I referred directly to the information she'd given in this thread. A single parent with five kids who appears to be proud that some of her kids have had fleeting brushes with employment. Her spelling suggests a certain level of education and I've seen nothing since that has changed my mind. I'm simply judging the person that she has presented here.