Bolton Bins: All change? (From This Is Lancashire)

Labour pushing these fortnightly bin collections through because there are no local elections this year! Bolton need to vote labour out asap, no more mosques or madrassas!

What... again? Don't they remember the utter sh*t storm that kicked off the last time this happened?

Here we go again. More roads and alleyways across the Bolton district that are lined with unemptied bins and overflow bin bags (2 per house is the norm) due to the collections being missed because the bin truck cannot carry all the extra waste. This is a health hazard waiting to happen. I just hope that Bolton hospitals service improves before they get the influx of sickness and diarrhoea patients hitting A+E. still we always have the white elephant they call Bolton One to fall back on.

Out of interest, can we find out through the freedom of information act when the last time Cllr Morris' street had a missed collection?

here we go again.another backword step.

mustafa-moan wrote:
Labour pushing these fortnightly bin collections through because there are no local elections this year! Bolton need to vote labour out asap, no more mosques or madrassas!

What an idiot, what's this article to do with Mosques and Madrasahs?

Get yourself a life and stop inciting hatred.

Religion plays a big part in recycling, waste and cleanliness, open the bible, quran or the Torah and you will learn a few lessons.

If you don't have anything better to say, don't say it!!!

"Religion plays a big part in recycling"

Er... go on..

As far as domestic waste is concerned I totally agree with the council on this matter, I recycle therefore my grey bin is only ever half full and only needs to be emptied every 2 weeks, my neighbour has even less as there are only 2 of them..If we all did recycling correctly then there is no need for a weekly collection, but many people cant be bothered can they? I am very careful what goes to landfill from my grey bin and visit the tip at Raikes Lane regular, I do realise that many people can not do this but we can all do our bit as far as recycling goes and then that is less going in the grey bin!

proudboltonian wrote:

mustafa-moan wrote:
Labour pushing these fortnightly bin collections through because there are no local elections this year! Bolton need to vote labour out asap, no more mosques or madrassas!

What an idiot, what's this article to do with Mosques and Madrasahs?

Get yourself a life and stop inciting hatred.

Religion plays a big part in recycling, waste and cleanliness, open the bible, quran or the Torah and you will learn a few lessons.

If you don't have anything better to say, don't say it!!!

If you care to read the story about the Gilnow road mosque, (BN Tuesday) and then look further into it, you'll see that all labour voted for the numerous changes in planning to appease the muslims, conservatives & liberals all voted against! Anyway it is a public forum and I can say what I like, numpty!

Its a rubbish idea!

why do i feel sivk every time the name cliff morris pops up.?

Why dont we go the whole hog and start sharing bins with those who live next door or place large bins in each area then we can all congregate around one bin and discuss why it has not been emptied. and allow recycling Why dont the Council start thinking outside the box to save money they could offer all recyclable materials free of charge to companies who would collect them and recycle them this would cut the cost for the council as they would no longer have to fork out for collecting and small companies might spring up in various parts of the town collecting the recyclable waste. Simples eh.

Questionnaire being sent to 8000 homes . . . homes of yes men. It would be intesting to see how many are actually sent to homes across the borough rather than a higher class area. Bolton Council really need to listen to Boltonians who pay over the odds tax for a fallen town. Boltons Council must be that bored they are struggling with ideas. This has been tried and tested and proved to be a mistake. Why WASTE time trying it again. Prats, the lot of them!!!

They already tried this, the then Tory council lost the election because of it and Labour pretty much only got in because they promised to restore it back to weekly collections.
Now they're doing a U-Turn and making it fortnightly again?? Really?? Politicians going back on their word??? No!!!

I don't have a problem with the concept really, now we can seperate the rubbish there's plenty of room in the black bin for 2 weeks worth of crap. We have enough space in our burgundy and cream bins that we share with our next door neighbours.

What I do have a problem with is binmen who root through my plastic/metal recycle bin and pick out stuff that they think doen't look bottle shaped and then leave it all over my front garden, then they decide to play musical bins and you have to go searching the street for where they've left yours .. feckin overpaid wheelie walkers :(

..also, we got these stupid black plastic caddy things last year with a nice roll of little green bin bags to put in them, we used this roll within a fortnight and have never heard of getting a replacement for it since.

Rawenergy wrote:
Questionnaire being sent to 8000 homes . . . homes of yes men. It would be intesting to see how many are actually sent to homes across the borough rather than a higher class area. Bolton Council really need to listen to Boltonians who pay over the odds tax for a fallen town. Boltons Council must be that bored they are struggling with ideas. This has been tried and tested and proved to be a mistake. Why WASTE time trying it again. Prats, the lot of them!!!

I think the people who live in the 'higher class areas', as you put it, are likely to be the ones paying the 'over the odds taxes', yet the two weekly scheme seemed to work in these areas. Maybe it's not because these people are 'yes men', maybe it's because they can be bothered to recycle their rubbish and take some responsibility for it. Weekly collections are a waste of money if people are recycling correctly. Worst of all is replacing the bins AND having weekly collections, an even bigger waste of money! Surely, if there are problems with collections from certain types of properties these issues need to be sorted, irrespective of whether bins are emptied weekly or fortnightly.

While I agree that most of us don't need weekly bin collections,I do think we need a happy medium and fortnightly collections could be a problem if you end up missing one by accident.The bin men can come anytime from 7am to 2pm around here so if you miss them then you could be waiting a month to have you bin emptied.I think bin collections should be every ten days-3 times a month-meaning savings are made but at least a decent level of service is still maintained.I do agree with a commenter earlier about the Labour Party and their control of the council the past year has been a disaster.It is time people of the town looked at some of the smaller parties-UKIP BNP or even the people ofBolton do what has happened in other towns and set up a community party of their own because the three main parties are the same and have nothing to offer except failure.Avoid the Green Party too as they are the most communist party of the lot.

lindlandl wrote:

Rawenergy wrote: Questionnaire being sent to 8000 homes . . . homes of yes men. It would be intesting to see how many are actually sent to homes across the borough rather than a higher class area. Bolton Council really need to listen to Boltonians who pay over the odds tax for a fallen town. Boltons Council must be that bored they are struggling with ideas. This has been tried and tested and proved to be a mistake. Why WASTE time trying it again. Prats, the lot of them!!!

I think the people who live in the 'higher class areas', as you put it, are likely to be the ones paying the 'over the odds taxes', yet the two weekly scheme seemed to work in these areas. Maybe it's not because these people are 'yes men', maybe it's because they can be bothered to recycle their rubbish and take some responsibility for it. Weekly collections are a waste of money if people are recycling correctly. Worst of all is replacing the bins AND having weekly collections, an even bigger waste of money! Surely, if there are problems with collections from certain types of properties these issues need to be sorted, irrespective of whether bins are emptied weekly or fortnightly.

The grey bin takes approx 3-4 bags. Over the course of a 7 day week the bin is full. How can a household manage for 14 days. The 2 weekly collection was tried and failed because of this reason. Bags are going to be left at the side of bins in back streets, encourage fly tipping and infestation of rats. The council believe this is in the interest of Boltons people, try talking to the people and we'll tell you it's not!!

I never fill all my bins on a weekly basis and would have no problem with fortnightly collections.
So, to all those people who wish to have their rubbish collected weekly, that's fine but pay extra council tax for the privilege or reduce my band D rate to band C, no thought you may not agree.

Having just returned from a short break in the USA, there you can have weekly or fortnightly bin collection, but the weekly cost more than double the fortnightly. The position here is not really about party politics at the local level, Bolton Council can no longer afford to collect bins once a week. The options are simple, increase council tax and keep weekly collections or move to fortnightly collections. No party is going to campaign on a stance of putting up council tax are they?
I remember as a child we had a metal bin which held about half the amount a grey wheely bin holds, this was collected once a week, therefore, with the grey bin and the other recycling bins you should be able to manage fortnightly collections.
Come on folks get real, it not the end of the world if the bin only gets emptied once a fortnight, we just need to be a bit more responsible about what we buy and what we throw away.

questionairre wrote:
I never fill all my bins on a weekly basis and would have no problem with fortnightly collections. So, to all those people who wish to have their rubbish collected weekly, that's fine but pay extra council tax for the privilege or reduce my band D rate to band C, no thought you may not agree.

Some people outside your bubble do fill their grey bin within a week, even when recycling.

Rawenergy wrote:

questionairre wrote:
I never fill all my bins on a weekly basis and would have no problem with fortnightly collections. So, to all those people who wish to have their rubbish collected weekly, that's fine but pay extra council tax for the privilege or reduce my band D rate to band C, no thought you may not agree.

Some people outside your bubble do fill their grey bin within a week, even when recycling.

Then why should we pay for the privilege of these people having their bins emptied weekly?

Excellent suggestion about different rates .. If you want it emptied weekly you pay £x.xx if you want it fortnightly you pay £x.xx spread over 10 convenient monthly payments.

Actually why not go one step further?
If you want the Police to respond to your call within 10 minutes you pay £x.xx if you want them to respond with 10 hours you pay £x.xx if you want them to just simply sit on the arses and install a camera in their place you get a discount.

:)

A family of four will never be able to cope with a fortnightly delivery, just put your general waste in the green bin and put the grass cuttings on top of it, works every time

I feel that fortnightly collections will cause problems with fly tipping and other nastiness caused bt rottng rubbish especially in the warmer months. Some people will not pay extra to have extra collections the minority will just dump the rubbish and ruin it for everyone else who trys to toe the line, theres already fly tipping issues with the weekly collections.
Yes if the fortnightly collections come in we will have to find ways to reduce waste and be more mindful of recycling and im sure most decent people are happy to do this.

I agree with the council this time as i re-cycle everything as per council instructions and only need my grey bin emptying once a month. We are a household that consists of 3 adults 2 teenagers and a toddler.

ziggyboo22 wrote:
I feel that fortnightly collections will cause problems with fly tipping and other nastiness caused bt rottng rubbish especially in the warmer months. Some people will not pay extra to have extra collections the minority will just dump the rubbish and ruin it for everyone else who trys to toe the line, theres already fly tipping issues with the weekly collections.
Yes if the fortnightly collections come in we will have to find ways to reduce waste and be more mindful of recycling and im sure most decent people are happy to do this.

Why should there be rotting rubbish when we have green bins for compostable materials such as peelings, veg, waste food etc? What are some people putting in their bins? Maybe some people should think about what they are chucking out if their bins are getting so full so fast and save themselves some money into the bargain by not being so wasteful. Even better than recycling is not creating unnecessary waste in the first place. The message just does not seem to be getting through to some people about the escalating landfill tax because we are literally running out of places to dump stuff and the more that is being dumped, the more we are paying. It also seems to be lost on some people that other places have much higher recycling rates so are chucking less in their grey bins. What's making it so impossible for some people who live in Bolton apart from a refusal to cooperate in an area that would save us heaps of money for a couple of minutes of their time?

Fizz18 wrote:
I agree with the council this time as i re-cycle everything as per council instructions and only need my grey bin emptying once a month. We are a household that consists of 3 adults 2 teenagers and a toddler.

Thank you! It's obviously a lack of care and will amongst some people. Maybe they don't understand either that we will have cuts in other areas to pay for their selfishness.

And so will spend money dealing with complaints, fly-tipping, rats and other vermin.

So I say when your bin gets full, leave your bags in the town centre near the town hall, it is closer for them to pick it up - that way they will save more money. PILLOCKS!

lindlandl wrote:

ziggyboo22 wrote:
I feel that fortnightly collections will cause problems with fly tipping and other nastiness caused bt rottng rubbish especially in the warmer months. Some people will not pay extra to have extra collections the minority will just dump the rubbish and ruin it for everyone else who trys to toe the line, theres already fly tipping issues with the weekly collections.
Yes if the fortnightly collections come in we will have to find ways to reduce waste and be more mindful of recycling and im sure most decent people are happy to do this.

Why should there be rotting rubbish when we have green bins for compostable materials such as peelings, veg, waste food etc? What are some people putting in their bins? Maybe some people should think about what they are chucking out if their bins are getting so full so fast and save themselves some money into the bargain by not being so wasteful. Even better than recycling is not creating unnecessary waste in the first place. The message just does not seem to be getting through to some people about the escalating landfill tax because we are literally running out of places to dump stuff and the more that is being dumped, the more we are paying. It also seems to be lost on some people that other places have much higher recycling rates so are chucking less in their grey bins. What's making it so impossible for some people who live in Bolton apart from a refusal to cooperate in an area that would save us heaps of money for a couple of minutes of their time?

for one - all this recycling is making the council a small fortune. So your tone and shilling on behalf of the council is lost in what you are stating - people reading your comment should be up in arm as the money apparently saved from all this recycling was one of the reasons given by the council in the first place as to why we have those very bins now.

Basically what you are accurately portraying in your comment is that all thgis recycling has been a waste of time and hard work by the citizens of Bolton when our council taxes should have been paying for refuse to be collected and disposed of in the original way it was intended (slung on a shoulder, into the back of a truck and then off to the tip.

You are blind to the councils own waste - there is a lot of waste in the council.

Waste of time policies.
Waste of paper.
Waste of resourses.
Waste of time leaders.
Waste of time research.
Waste of time board mambers.

Clearly all just a complete diabolical waste... WASTE, WASTE and more WASTE!

Bring it on!

Actually I will just state it as it is because the council obviously think people a stupid *sorry for the typos in my last comment*.

The council are making a vast some of money from all that recycling that you and I are doing.

Let's put it this way each and every single person in Bolton could if they wanted to, collect all that paper, card, various metals, glass and plastic - and then weigh it in.

But out of convenience the council offer bins an we use them so it works both ways.

However the council should show the accurate figures on just how much profit they are making after disposal and sorting fees.

Not just that there is the European money that is collected by the council.

Simple FACT - They LIE - Some of you bleat like sheep - and others like the many in these comment above are showing that the wool isn't that easily pulled over their eyes.

Sooner or later there is going to be a big stink in this country, not just the trash spoken by council leaders up and down the country or by political leaders, waste on streets bla bla bla - but by the extremely pi**ed off people who are sick to death of cuts in the wrong places.

Yes the 1% are even here in Bolton creaming everything and bleeding the town dry.

kazooki wrote:

Rawenergy wrote:

questionairre wrote:
I never fill all my bins on a weekly basis and would have no problem with fortnightly collections. So, to all those people who wish to have their rubbish collected weekly, that's fine but pay extra council tax for the privilege or reduce my band D rate to band C, no thought you may not agree.

Some people outside your bubble do fill their grey bin within a week, even when recycling.

Then why should we pay for the privilege of these people having their bins emptied weekly?

Excellent suggestion about different rates .. If you want it emptied weekly you pay £x.xx if you want it fortnightly you pay £x.xx spread over 10 convenient monthly payments.

Actually why not go one step further?
If you want the Police to respond to your call within 10 minutes you pay £x.xx if you want them to respond with 10 hours you pay £x.xx if you want them to just simply sit on the arses and install a camera in their place you get a discount.

:)

LOL ^^^This brilliant! +1

I can spell 'sum' and 'and' der me!

Beyond News Forum wrote:
And so will spend money dealing with complaints, fly-tipping, rats and other vermin.

So I say when your bin gets full, leave your bags in the town centre near the town hall, it is closer for them to pick it up - that way they will save more money. PILLOCKS!

Why do people leave full bags by their bins? The bin men will not take them. What are they throwing away on a weekly basis? Maybe they should be fined for behaving in such an irresponsible way, especially if attracting vermin when NORMAL people with larger than average families manage just fine. I suppose they musn't mind attracting vermin as Bolton is one of the only councils that does not charge to deal with infestations. Perhaps, if they had to pay £200 each time they needed a stupidly self-inflicted infestation dealt with they would deal with their rubbish more responsibly.

lindlandl wrote:

Beyond News Forum wrote:
And so will spend money dealing with complaints, fly-tipping, rats and other vermin.

So I say when your bin gets full, leave your bags in the town centre near the town hall, it is closer for them to pick it up - that way they will save more money. PILLOCKS!

Why do people leave full bags by their bins? The bin men will not take them. What are they throwing away on a weekly basis? Maybe they should be fined for behaving in such an irresponsible way, especially if attracting vermin when NORMAL people with larger than average families manage just fine. I suppose they musn't mind attracting vermin as Bolton is one of the only councils that does not charge to deal with infestations. Perhaps, if they had to pay £200 each time they needed a stupidly self-inflicted infestation dealt with they would deal with their rubbish more responsibly.

No MAYBE the council need to start cutting back on black-tie events and spend their money on the people of Bolton in the correct UN-wasteful manner, and stop passing the buck.

As I said previously the council are making a vast sum of money from the recycling you do... so screw them they owe us BIG TIME.

People have families, families create waste, if you live on your own then you create little waste... do you live on your own?

I resided in the USA where weekly collections are performed in the correct manner. A guy even gets out of the cab and walks up your path and checks your bin if you forget to leave it out.

Don't give me that what are people putting in bags garbage rubbish nonsense - for what you say is a MINORITY issue probably 1/1000 people so what you state is utter nonsense.

You just have to look around you... the council allow our streets to rot in waste because there are NO bins on pavements. NONE zilch zip! On every estate and sidewalk in the area I lived in in the US is a fricking bin, dog foul bin and utilities and so on.

No this is a f'ing joke and if you can't see that then suffer the consequences of your inability to think forward.

lindlandl wrote:

Beyond News Forum wrote:
And so will spend money dealing with complaints, fly-tipping, rats and other vermin.

So I say when your bin gets full, leave your bags in the town centre near the town hall, it is closer for them to pick it up - that way they will save more money. PILLOCKS!

Why do people leave full bags by their bins? The bin men will not take them. What are they throwing away on a weekly basis? Maybe they should be fined for behaving in such an irresponsible way, especially if attracting vermin when NORMAL people with larger than average families manage just fine. I suppose they musn't mind attracting vermin as Bolton is one of the only councils that does not charge to deal with infestations. Perhaps, if they had to pay £200 each time they needed a stupidly self-inflicted infestation dealt with they would deal with their rubbish more responsibly.

Maybe I read what you are stating a little wrong - I think you were agreeing with me... I will do something the council never do with hand on heart.

I apologize. :)

So fed up with the Bin problem, If the people of Bolton are so hard up as we keep being told, how come they are creating so much rubbish. No food should be thrown away, peelings and all veg trimmings should be composted(think about how much you could save not going to buy bags of compost for the garden). Are people so thick that they do not realise a large cardboard box will not fill the bin if they tear it up first. I see so many empty widescreen TV boxes in the back streets of these under priveliged people,makes me wonder how they can afford to buy them. Think about it, use your brains for heavens sake and stop moaning .The council can empty my bin once a month for all I care. RECYCLE!.

i have a small grey bin, live on my own and am hardly at home, the bin needs emptying every week, council goes fortnightly and i will take my waste to the new raikes lane, catch 22

i have a small grey bin, live on my own and am hardly at home, the bin needs emptying every week, council goes fortnightly and i will take my waste to the new raikes lane, catch 22

It would be good if the bins we have right now were emptied on a regular basis.... Bin collection day is a bit like the lottery.............
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It would be good if the bins we have right now were emptied on a regular basis.... Bin collection day is a bit like the lottery.............
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lindlandl wrote:

ziggyboo22 wrote:
I feel that fortnightly collections will cause problems with fly tipping and other nastiness caused bt rottng rubbish especially in the warmer months. Some people will not pay extra to have extra collections the minority will just dump the rubbish and ruin it for everyone else who trys to toe the line, theres already fly tipping issues with the weekly collections.
Yes if the fortnightly collections come in we will have to find ways to reduce waste and be more mindful of recycling and im sure most decent people are happy to do this.

Why should there be rotting rubbish when we have green bins for compostable materials such as peelings, veg, waste food etc? What are some people putting in their bins? Maybe some people should think about what they are chucking out if their bins are getting so full so fast and save themselves some money into the bargain by not being so wasteful. Even better than recycling is not creating unnecessary waste in the first place. The message just does not seem to be getting through to some people about the escalating landfill tax because we are literally running out of places to dump stuff and the more that is being dumped, the more we are paying. It also seems to be lost on some people that other places have much higher recycling rates so are chucking less in their grey bins. What's making it so impossible for some people who live in Bolton apart from a refusal to cooperate in an area that would save us heaps of money for a couple of minutes of their time?

OMG A tree hugger!
A bin is a bin, you know rubbish. Why the hell do I care if someone wants to rifle through it to save the planet? Well get this you want to recycle then recycle but stop pulling the facist with those who don't!

hoboh2o wrote:

lindlandl wrote:

ziggyboo22 wrote:
I feel that fortnightly collections will cause problems with fly tipping and other nastiness caused bt rottng rubbish especially in the warmer months. Some people will not pay extra to have extra collections the minority will just dump the rubbish and ruin it for everyone else who trys to toe the line, theres already fly tipping issues with the weekly collections.
Yes if the fortnightly collections come in we will have to find ways to reduce waste and be more mindful of recycling and im sure most decent people are happy to do this.

Why should there be rotting rubbish when we have green bins for compostable materials such as peelings, veg, waste food etc? What are some people putting in their bins? Maybe some people should think about what they are chucking out if their bins are getting so full so fast and save themselves some money into the bargain by not being so wasteful. Even better than recycling is not creating unnecessary waste in the first place. The message just does not seem to be getting through to some people about the escalating landfill tax because we are literally running out of places to dump stuff and the more that is being dumped, the more we are paying. It also seems to be lost on some people that other places have much higher recycling rates so are chucking less in their grey bins. What's making it so impossible for some people who live in Bolton apart from a refusal to cooperate in an area that would save us heaps of money for a couple of minutes of their time?

OMG A tree hugger!
A bin is a bin, you know rubbish. Why the hell do I care if someone wants to rifle through it to save the planet? Well get this you want to recycle then recycle but stop pulling the facist with those who don't!

Suggest you read the article again. If we don't recycle and just throw everything in the grey bin, the grey bin gets full more quickly and needs to be emptied more often with lots of waste unnecessarily going to landfill. Landfill is costing US more and more in order to deter US from letting things end up there that could be recycled. It's nothing to do with being a 'tree hugger' or a 'fascist', it's about being bothered to take two minutes to sort your waste so that you don't waste money that could be spent on much more useful things. Why exactly would you want to send things to landfill that could be recycled when it costs us all more to do that, environmental issues (that seem to be beyond you) aside?

recycling is a joke you can only put certain metal in the bin, certain plastic in the bin you need a degree in chemistry to know what polymers are or are not allowed, and if you sweep the leaves off the path and put them in the bin it will not be taken, if the bin has the wrong metal it is not taken, here is an idea employ some one to sort it at the yard. But let them do as they wish, but so they can see the effect that their pen strokes make just drop of your uncollected rubbish at Cliff Morris front door. ( His address is a matter of public record) if every time things are done that cause pain and that is placed at their front door very soon they will have to stop and think of what they are doing, cut the nursery places call to his house with all the children and let him watch them. move the travellers on park outside his house, be evicted camp out side his house, too often politicians are doing things without any thought or any come back to them selves. Remember it is a democratic right to protest and if he does not like it just step down from office and any other M.P or councillor very soon your voice will really count.

lets just bin the whole idea,along with ciff morris.

deaghlan wrote:
recycling is a joke you can only put certain metal in the bin, certain plastic in the bin you need a degree in chemistry to know what polymers are or are not allowed, and if you sweep the leaves off the path and put them in the bin it will not be taken, if the bin has the wrong metal it is not taken, here is an idea employ some one to sort it at the yard. But let them do as they wish, but so they can see the effect that their pen strokes make just drop of your uncollected rubbish at Cliff Morris front door. ( His address is a matter of public record) if every time things are done that cause pain and that is placed at their front door very soon they will have to stop and think of what they are doing, cut the nursery places call to his house with all the children and let him watch them. move the travellers on park outside his house, be evicted camp out side his house, too often politicians are doing things without any thought or any come back to them selves. Remember it is a democratic right to protest and if he does not like it just step down from office and any other M.P or councillor very soon your voice will really count.

Your comment seems very confused. First of all there is some very clear information that makes it crystal clear what you can and can't recycle at www.recycleforgreate
rmanchester.com/recy
cle/in-your-area/bol
ton. The reason that it has to be very specific and is different in different areas is that the councils have different processors available to them. The reason they get very fussy about putting the wrong things in the bins is because they get heavily fined for 'contamination' that costs you and I money. It is ludicrous to suggest that 'someone' should be employed to sort through 120,000 grey bins. That would obviously be a mammoth and very expensive process, due to its size, as well as pointless apart from to save lazy? selfish? inadequate?people from doing it themselves. You propose things that will cost more money unnecessarily, object to cooperating with things that save money then start complaining about other possible cuts! Whatever you think of those in charge, as long as some people refuse to cooperate IT COSTS US ALL MONEY.. You as well, presumably, if you pay council tax! Seems funny though that there seems to be no problem with two weekly collections or recycling in areas that are bringing in by far the greatest revenue, where you might think the people would be jumping up and down demanding more from the council, especially when some people are paying in excess of £2000 pa, but they don't. Funny that isn't it?

Well thats got the community talking.
why dont we have just one large bin and put everything in ? if we had a proper recycling plant it would be sorted out there instead of all these bins, just to show how the council chuck our money away the suggestion of replacing the large grey bin with a smaller one is stupid. will they recycle the large ones?
Have they not thought of putting an insert into the existing bin to reduce capacity then when they realize it isnt working again they can change back to the normal size by removing said insert. Simples. If they were serious about recycling they would have built a methane recapturing facility at the landfill sites to recapture the methane produced and then run the council vehicles on them, the largest cost for the council after labour costs is fuel costs. there must be millions of cubic meters of methane under the former Red Moss tip plus all the other landfill sites throughout the borough. Not forgetting the methane coming from the crap discussed in the council chambers. Ask your councillor why they are paying staff to destroy old Library books from the closed libraries? Bet you didnt know that did you.

For goodness sake what is the matter with you lot. It's simple.
Cardboard and paper in the cardboard and paper bin.
Plastics, glass and tins in the plastics, glass and tins bin.
Garden and food waste in the Garden and food waste bin.
Anything else not mentioned in the Rubbish Bin.
It's not rocket science. You don't need a degree in chemistry to decide which plastics can go in the plastic bin. It was all explained in leaflets distributed at the same time the bins were. I can only assume some people didn't bother to read them. Oh and by the way, green bags for the kitchen caddies, tie one round the handle of the green bin and the bin men will leave you another roll. Again this was explained when the caddies were issued. I even have enough room when they miss the fortnightly collection, (which does happen) because I sort the waste I'm producing.
Now get a grip!

macauley wrote:
why do i feel sivk every time the name cliff morris pops up.?

Is this not the same Cliff Morriss that 'RAN' the now empty Smithills Coaching House ???? !!!!!

millarcy wrote:
For goodness sake what is the matter with you lot. It's simple.
Cardboard and paper in the cardboard and paper bin.
Plastics, glass and tins in the plastics, glass and tins bin.
Garden and food waste in the Garden and food waste bin.
Anything else not mentioned in the Rubbish Bin.
It's not rocket science. You don't need a degree in chemistry to decide which plastics can go in the plastic bin. It was all explained in leaflets distributed at the same time the bins were. I can only assume some people didn't bother to read them. Oh and by the way, green bags for the kitchen caddies, tie one round the handle of the green bin and the bin men will leave you another roll. Again this was explained when the caddies were issued. I even have enough room when they miss the fortnightly collection, (which does happen) because I sort the waste I'm producing.
Now get a grip!

Couldn't have put it better!

By the way, millarcy,, the council is not wanting to replace the larger grey bins with a smaller one, that is just the nutty idea of one tory councillor. I have no idea why he thinks spending 2.5 million we haven't got, on something we already have, whilst retaining weekly collections is a good idea, it's the worst of all worlds. Maybe he's very contrary or is finding his expenses aren't stretching far enough these days and has shares in a wheelie bin manufacturing company. Who knows!

Rawenergy wrote:
Questionnaire being sent to 8000 homes . . . homes of yes men. It would be intesting to see how many are actually sent to homes across the borough rather than a higher class area. Bolton Council really need to listen to Boltonians who pay over the odds tax for a fallen town. Boltons Council must be that bored they are struggling with ideas. This has been tried and tested and proved to be a mistake. Why WASTE time trying it again. Prats, the lot of them!!!

If you feel that strongly and bothered to read to the end o f the article, download a form!

northernsoul16 wrote:

macauley wrote: why do i feel sivk every time the name cliff morris pops up.?

Is this not the same Cliff Morriss that 'RAN' the now empty Smithills Coaching House ???? !!!!!

thats the one,everything he does turns sour.

macauley wrote:

northernsoul16 wrote:

macauley wrote: why do i feel sivk every time the name cliff morris pops up.?

Is this not the same Cliff Morriss that 'RAN' the now empty Smithills Coaching House ???? !!!!!

thats the one,everything he does turns sour.

What has this got to do with the news article? We are paying way over the odds, wasting money we can't afford because some people, seemingly for unrelated reasons, refuse to deal with their waste responsibly.

Just got back from holiday in Cyprus and they're another country, like Portugal, that have big community bins that are emptied during the night. Less traffic could just improve the productivity and might put off the nutters who want to set fire to everything.

Where I live the bins (all 3 types - General, bottles and paper) get empitied twice a week!!! The general waste is then separated back at base - far cheaper and cleaner.

There again we are talking about Morris and cronies! I wouldn't be surprised if teh savings made by their stupid idea is exactly the same amount of the pay-rise they will be giving themselves.

Morris and Co - serving for themselves, rather than their voters or town!

what a load of garbage on this debate.lets just all fly tip.

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana

this idea will just not happen.

i warned Roger this policy would see the liberals kicked out. when the tories promise to return to weeky collections(as they surely will) watch out Cliff and Co

If you cant make your bins last a fortnight then there is something wrong....

Fortnightly collections are very much the norm in the UK now, unlike when they was introduced last.

I have 4 bins emptied bi-weekly so that's 8 lifts per 4 weeks...

That is twice as much as we had 15yrs ago when we just had grey bins.... think about it!

Rawenergy wrote:

questionairre wrote:
I never fill all my bins on a weekly basis and would have no problem with fortnightly collections. So, to all those people who wish to have their rubbish collected weekly, that's fine but pay extra council tax for the privilege or reduce my band D rate to band C, no thought you may not agree.

Some people outside your bubble do fill their grey bin within a week, even when recycling.

What is going in the grey bin?

I usually put my grey out fortnightly, the only stuff in there is un-recylable plastics, tissues, crisp packets, DIY waste.

macauley wrote:
what a load of garbage on this debate.lets just all fly tip.

What an intelligent suggestion.