£70,000 bill to stay at Theatre Church (From This Is Lancashire)

Well,well,well..move on i say and let the thieving beggers lose money....

Typical, these people really take the pi**, bet this wouldn't happen if the Bolton Amateur Theatre Society were muslim!

Oh what a surprise! I hope the **** place falls in.

They are doing the right thing under Sharia law but millions of people have not woken up yet to the threat of radical Islam. It's called "Jizya" it is a tax that Muslim charge to non-Muslims all over the world. Even take-aways do it in Bolton. But the sheeple Keep on voting Lib/Lab/Con.We think we have problems now with Islam and they're about 2.5% of the population. just wait until they're about 9% in 10yrs time! Then in 20yrs our country will be lost!

"So it can be used as a venue for the elderly" they say.......will they be charging them £70.000 for the use?
When they do'nt want you, they simply charge an outrageous amount to dissuade you.

Fully expected some thing like this when I read who had bought the building. Hope the theatre group find somewhere else and tell our Freinds what to do, in no uncertain terms . It will not be long before our wonderfull council give permission to turn it into another mosque anyway.Good luck to the theatre group you put on some great shows.

Hope the Methodists are happy counting their cash now. Seymour Rd theatre church has played a part in the lives of pretty much everyone I know from that area. Playgroup, cubs/scouts, youthclub, the plays they put on, the church services - all gone.

On the basis of commercial lending rates, and using a sharia equivalent, the owners loan repayments would be closer to £15-18k per annum. Paying £500k for the building the expected commercial return would be 5-6% thus the rent would be £25-30k. Make up your own minds.

Don't worry - it'll end up another 'reading room' ............

"But CATS co-director Paul Cohen says it is not financially viable as the group had previously paid £68 a week to rent the building — which would total £3,264 if the venue was hired for 48 weeks of the year. "


You cannot seriously expect to rent a building that size for £68 a week!

Most bedsits cost more!

atlas123 wrote:
"But CATS co-director Paul Cohen says it is not financially viable as the group had previously paid £68 a week to rent the building — which would total £3,264 if the venue was hired for 48 weeks of the year. " You cannot seriously expect to rent a building that size for £68 a week! Most bedsits cost more!

£68 is for a couple of rooms for a couple of hours - not the whole building. All the users of these rooms and the theatre together generated an income of c£32k for the Methodists.

I think I can get my head around the fact that they are a private business so can charge what they want. However, if a non-white group offers to rent the premises what happens if the rental charge is below £70k? I hope the owners are fully aware that ALL discrimination is wrong and that legal action can be taken if the racial equality laws are broken.

All the theatre users have had it too easy and cheap on their plates for many years and have been paying ridiculously low prices such as 68 quid, hence the place has not survived. A message for all those that wish bad luck to the new owners: You are all jelous and racists yourself which is why when it comes to muslims you cannot see or sense anything above mosques. Am sure your false bubbles will be popped very soon! If anyone of you were even slightly intelligent and business minded or even had a knowledge about business you would understand that the new owners are not charity registered and for the size of the building they would automatically need alot more income.

they're accountable to us wrote:

atlas123 wrote:
"But CATS co-director Paul Cohen says it is not financially viable as the group had previously paid £68 a week to rent the building — which would total £3,264 if the venue was hired for 48 weeks of the year. " You cannot seriously expect to rent a building that size for £68 a week! Most bedsits cost more!

£68 is for a couple of rooms for a couple of hours - not the whole building. All the users of these rooms and the theatre together generated an income of c£32k for the Methodists.

Fair comment;

Its just not how I read it!

I'd love to know whether or not these 'owners' where actually born in England, that could be another debate we could all have. It makes me sick that they don't care about the feelings of the thousands of children that have used the Theatre Church to grow up, and make themselves more confident with their singing and their acting. I know that all these Theatre societies will continue their journeys elsewhere, because we always do! I hope that the robbing t**** have a successful 'career' .... if you can call it that!

Contact the local schools who have rooms for hire, their not greedy and providing they can cover their running costs Im pretty sure they would be glad to open the doors, may even create a profit for the schools. The writing was on the wall when the building was sold and shouldnt have come as a shock the the theater groups. Lets hope the buildings cant find tenants and they get stuck with a lemon.

Why do your readers always bring it down to race and religion? I'm involved with several of the groups who used Theatre Church but don't wish to be associated with racists an d bigots. If you can't argue the point without resorting to racist comments then keep your thoughts to yourselves.

Turandot77 wrote:
Why do your readers always bring it down to race and religion? I'm involved with several of the groups who used Theatre Church but don't wish to be associated with racists an d bigots. If you can't argue the point without resorting to racist comments then keep your thoughts to yourselves.

Having a fear of radical Islam does not make you a racist or bigot!

Get a grip! wrote:
All the theatre users have had it too easy and cheap on their plates for many years and have been paying ridiculously low prices such as 68 quid, hence the place has not survived. A message for all those that wish bad luck to the new owners: You are all jelous and racists yourself which is why when it comes to muslims you cannot see or sense anything above mosques. Am sure your false bubbles will be popped very soon! If anyone of you were even slightly intelligent and business minded or even had a knowledge about business you would understand that the new owners are not charity registered and for the size of the building they would automatically need alot more income.

Oh dear. What a whopper. Firstly I'll wager that I've forgotten more about successfully running a business than you'll ever know. Secondly, the theatre church is a long held staple of the Astley Bridge community and is more than a mere business entity. That you brandish the race card makes you every bit as reprehensible as those that brandish it in the first place.

I, Ludicrous wrote:

Get a grip! wrote:
All the theatre users have had it too easy and cheap on their plates for many years and have been paying ridiculously low prices such as 68 quid, hence the place has not survived. A message for all those that wish bad luck to the new owners: You are all jelous and racists yourself which is why when it comes to muslims you cannot see or sense anything above mosques. Am sure your false bubbles will be popped very soon! If anyone of you were even slightly intelligent and business minded or even had a knowledge about business you would understand that the new owners are not charity registered and for the size of the building they would automatically need alot more income.

Oh dear. What a whopper. Firstly I'll wager that I've forgotten more about successfully running a business than you'll ever know. Secondly, the theatre church is a long held staple of the Astley Bridge community and is more than a mere business entity. That you brandish the race card makes you every bit as reprehensible as those that brandish it in the first place.

Well if you were so concerned about the theatre church going then why didn't you offer a lump sum towards the users to help save the building. It was for charity purpose anyway. Stop brewing useless trouble! You could have showed your concern towards the theatre church when it was needed. No need to sob over it now.

Get a grip! wrote:

I, Ludicrous wrote:

Get a grip! wrote:
All the theatre users have had it too easy and cheap on their plates for many years and have been paying ridiculously low prices such as 68 quid, hence the place has not survived. A message for all those that wish bad luck to the new owners: You are all jelous and racists yourself which is why when it comes to muslims you cannot see or sense anything above mosques. Am sure your false bubbles will be popped very soon! If anyone of you were even slightly intelligent and business minded or even had a knowledge about business you would understand that the new owners are not charity registered and for the size of the building they would automatically need alot more income.

Oh dear. What a whopper. Firstly I'll wager that I've forgotten more about successfully running a business than you'll ever know. Secondly, the theatre church is a long held staple of the Astley Bridge community and is more than a mere business entity. That you brandish the race card makes you every bit as reprehensible as those that brandish it in the first place.

Well if you were so concerned about the theatre church going then why didn't you offer a lump sum towards the users to help save the building. It was for charity purpose anyway. Stop brewing useless trouble! You could have showed your concern towards the theatre church when it was needed. No need to sob over it now.

What makes you so sure that I didn't? You don't know anything.

Well it must been the sum of chips or else the theatre church would still be running! You didn't contribute enough mate!

Heard the mosque is already opened!, pop in and have a look.

Can't understand why the purchasers are not coming out with the fact that part of the building will be a Mosque and it's being used?

What's the concern? It's no big secret !!

For all those who live on seymour road and nearby, please post your comments on noise, traffic , congestion etc... I bet it's a big sigh of relief. The mess the CATs used to cause when shows were happening was unbearable!!!

Can see the estate agents getting busy with the WHITE FLIGHT !!, get your properties on the market before you are in competition with others.

Good luck selling your house, as the Asians about!

I, Ludicrous wrote:

Get a grip! wrote:
All the theatre users have had it too easy and cheap on their plates for many years and have been paying ridiculously low prices such as 68 quid, hence the place has not survived. A message for all those that wish bad luck to the new owners: You are all jelous and racists yourself which is why when it comes to muslims you cannot see or sense anything above mosques. Am sure your false bubbles will be popped very soon! If anyone of you were even slightly intelligent and business minded or even had a knowledge about business you would understand that the new owners are not charity registered and for the size of the building they would automatically need alot more income.

Oh dear. What a whopper. Firstly I'll wager that I've forgotten more about successfully running a business than you'll ever know. Secondly, the theatre church is a long held staple of the Astley Bridge community and is more than a mere business entity. That you brandish the race card makes you every bit as reprehensible as those that brandish it in the first place.

Staple of the Astleybridge community!!! What nonsense, more like a nuisance with paying peanuts and playing politics leaving no choice for the church to relocate.

The trustees of the church let it run down so they could make a business case to relocate, whose fault is that ??

The racists and uneducated will say "it's the Muslims" ..... Change the tune and get a life I say.

proudboltonian wrote:

I, Ludicrous wrote:

Get a grip! wrote:
All the theatre users have had it too easy and cheap on their plates for many years and have been paying ridiculously low prices such as 68 quid, hence the place has not survived. A message for all those that wish bad luck to the new owners: You are all jelous and racists yourself which is why when it comes to muslims you cannot see or sense anything above mosques. Am sure your false bubbles will be popped very soon! If anyone of you were even slightly intelligent and business minded or even had a knowledge about business you would understand that the new owners are not charity registered and for the size of the building they would automatically need alot more income.

Oh dear. What a whopper. Firstly I'll wager that I've forgotten more about successfully running a business than you'll ever know. Secondly, the theatre church is a long held staple of the Astley Bridge community and is more than a mere business entity. That you brandish the race card makes you every bit as reprehensible as those that brandish it in the first place.

Staple of the Astleybridge community!!! What nonsense, more like a nuisance with paying peanuts and playing politics leaving no choice for the church to relocate.

The trustees of the church let it run down so they could make a business case to relocate, whose fault is that ??

The racists and uneducated will say "it's the Muslims" ..... Change the tune and get a life I say.

You'll note that I denounce those that play he race card. Get an education!

I attended the Methodist church with my family until talks for selling up began. The so called 'dwindling numbers' is not true at all as every Sunday there were always many people in attendance and the Sunday school had three separate age groups as there were a lot of children in attendance. We as the congregation were invited to voice our opinion in the matter of moving church etc and my family sent a letter explaining how our church didnt need to be sold at all and none of the congregation wanted to move at all . We did not receive any form of reply. Basically the people who were in charge at the methodist church thought they were going to be pioneers in bringing 3 churches together and forming a super church but they did not listen to the congregation and i have heard that now the numbers of people in attendance at astley bridge methodist church have fallen significantly. This was all an ego boost for the powers that be at the methodist church.

It's a shame that the church leadership disregards views and comments of its worshippers.

Churches and other places of worship need to be open and engage the local community to be looked after. Looked after in managing day to day issues such as counselling, education, positive opportunities etc...

The muslim community has just woken up in bolton, the Jewish community have been doing it for years in Manchester and the Hindu community is still lacking.

I call all leaders of faith to diversify in working with local communities, don't just read a script from the pulpit, outreach and get engaged in some real delivery.

For all those racist on the Bolton News Forum, give it a break as we hear you and are sick of you. Let's have some constructive dialouges, rather than the same old Muslim Bashing