Campaigners slam delay over Burnley A&E decision (From This Is Lancashire)

Well two years on and the Tories and lib dems are scrambling to find someone else to blame.
Gordon was elected on a false promise, This government are privatising the NHS despite the protestations of Gordons mob, The NHS is on the ropes and has been deliberately mismanaged to bring about a position that is favourable to the Tories private sector friends. funny wherever the private sector has taken over or had some hand in running public services, It has been a worsening of services and a big increase in profits for the private firm. I fear for the NHS in Burnley, This has been the biggest **** up in health services ever forced on a section of society. The cross transfer of patients from Blackburn to Burnley and back must put patients at risk.
I hope the people of Burnley remember this well at the next election. I also hope Labour puts up a credible candidate.

why do people think they can get it reopened,get a grip before long the only part of the hospital left will be the birthing unit

Sad truth is that the winner in this game is Gordon Birtwistle. He's got himself a nice little salary of over £65k and MP's pension scheme - not bad really. He can afford private health cover so he won't be bothered in years to come what happens with BUrnley hospitals.

So this is part of a 'what's in a name' review and no doubt a bit of funding goes with a name.
Plus the paramedics decide which unit to go to do they? Ah, so they are doctors too,and with all due respect to their skills what happens if they get it wrong and underestimate a situation?
It's been reported time after time that Blackburn gets jammed solid with too many patients and ambulance queues.What is it going to take to make them see that no matter how hard you push, 2 hospital catchment areas population will not go into one.

Our MP campaigned on a promise to restore full A&E services to Burnley Gen, yet I've hardly heard a peep from him about this since May 2010.

Mind you, what can we expect? All the Lib Dems have done since May 2010 is Tory dirty work or at least enabling it by voting in a mostly Thatcherite agenda. The biggest laugh is that their Tory friends will not even back them with regards to democratic Lords Reform.

The only Clegg-acy the Lib Dems will have to show by 2015 is a party that's been totally decimated on a local level along with many good councillors and activists, not to mention the thousands of armchair members who no longer pay their subs or indeed support the party.

Any one who believes Burnley will ever see an A&E again must also believe that politicians, from any party, believe in the welfare of people. They don't.
A&E depts throughout the country are closing,London is losing 4 out of its 9 depts and if people think there will be any consideration for Burnley they are very much misguided.

ABBEY ROAD wrote:
Sad truth is that the winner in this game is Gordon Birtwistle. He's got himself a nice little salary of over £65k and MP's pension scheme - not bad really. He can afford private health cover so he won't be bothered in years to come what happens with BUrnley hospitals.

Yeah and he's representing Burnley as MP for that money. And he has huge responsibility but gets far less than many local council workers. Council executives will be on double that money. What's he supposed to be - the first MP in history to turn down his standard wage?

This disgraceful situation with Burnley's A&E is not the Libdems fault it's Labour. It seems Gordon Birtwistle is actually very bothered about this issue, unlike the former Labour MP who only seem bothered about what her fellow Labour chums and high level union reps wanted over champagne and canopes.

If Gordon Birtwistle had been MP instead of two house Kitty Usher, then Burnley A&E might never have been closed in the first place. And if the Libdems were the majority party in the coalition, rather than the very minor party in terms of numbers, then I'm guessing this decision would have been looked at sooner as well.

Last year 800 joint replacments were carried out at Burnley, 15 years ago they did 80. If you look at the impact the decision the decision to remove truma and general surgery cases form Burnley to Blackburn you will see what a positive decision this was.

Oh the irony of it, Labourites calling anybody but themselves, Lets remember who was in power when the A&E at Burnley closed both locally and nationally ? Yes you have guessed it Labour. I am not saying the tories or lib dems are any better as there is no real difference between the 3 main parties. Its nothing to do with Burnley or any other small towns, A&E's are the most expensive area to run in a hospital you need a lot of other services available. Its happening all over the country not just here, and lets be honest I remember being at A&E many a time as a child,, it was full of drunks, broken bones from sports injuries cuts and bangs on the head for children. It wont come back to Burnley and Burnley General Hospital wont exist within 5 years. they are slowly removing services, A&E, Mental Health, Childrens ward, all thats left are the services that occupy the PFI buildings which they are tied into long term lease contracts. such as the Maternity and the new bit in the middle. If they could get out of these they would shut

Siouxsie-Jan wrote:
Our MP campaigned on a promise to restore full A&E services to Burnley Gen, yet I've hardly heard a peep from him about this since May 2010.

Mind you, what can we expect? All the Lib Dems have done since May 2010 is Tory dirty work or at least enabling it by voting in a mostly Thatcherite agenda. The biggest laugh is that their Tory friends will not even back them with regards to democratic Lords Reform.

The only Clegg-acy the Lib Dems will have to show by 2015 is a party that's been totally decimated on a local level along with many good councillors and activists, not to mention the thousands of armchair members who no longer pay their subs or indeed support the party.

Jeez what a strange post. So full of hatred for starters.

Just so you are aware, as you appear to have been in a coma for the last couple of years, all the Lib Dems have done, as always, is what they think is right. That means what's best for society in general, not what their union mates say they should do, or their rich friends, or media moguls, or lobbyists obviously with huge self interest, or even, as seems to be the norm with the two main entrenched parties, what's in it for themselves.

It's called old fashioned politics. The reason we are in this mess is because of the selfish, self driven politics that Tony Blair ushered in; the politics of spin. Ed Miliband has absolutely no personal vision as to what's best for society, it's just whatever would be popular, and whatever can be spun. He's the epitome of career politicians with nothing about them.

The world's a strange place incidentally; we'll see what happens come 2015.

Full of hatred? What an odd thing to say, especially when the second line of your post says I appear to be in a coma. You should get your own house in order before accusing people of being full of hatred just because they don't share your point of view.

As for this imaginary hatred of yours: My post was merely well-deserved criticism of the Tory lackeys and I was simply pointing out how the Lib Dems are now a spent force (will be for at least a generation) and all for a few crumbs at the top table, not even democrat Lords Reform to show for it.

Siouxsie-Jan wrote:
Full of hatred? What an odd thing to say, especially when the second line of your post says I appear to be in a coma. You should get your own house in order before accusing people of being full of hatred just because they don't share your point of view.

As for this imaginary hatred of yours: My post was merely well-deserved criticism of the Tory lackeys and I was simply pointing out how the Lib Dems are now a spent force (will be for at least a generation) and all for a few crumbs at the top table, not even democrat Lords Reform to show for it.

I'm sorry but you must have misinterpreted me; there was no hatred from me, it was pity.

The reason I said you must have been in a coma, is because you seem to have missed what the Lib Dems are all about, whilst you were lost in your spin filled hyperbole.

Nobody wants self interest politics any more. So come the next election, Labour won't be able to please their union paymasters by squandering billions and not caring about shafting the average man in the street, because that average man will still be getting shafted then, good and proper, from their last mistakes. Just like they are now. So Ed better put his thinking cap on.

A thatcherite agenda incidentally? What? Let me guess; you're a high flying union rep? I say that because it's just the type of nonsense they come out with, "Ideological cuts," "Thatcherite agenda," - it's like they need mantras, regardless of whether they are true or not. The truth is we just can't afford these things anymore, so the public sector gravy train needs to stop or else it's another Greece waiting to happen. The man is the street is sick of paying enough as it is thanks.

As for Thatcher, don't get me wrong she float my boat at the time, but the truth is she had integrity. She did what she thought was right, not what would make her popular. So you may not agree with her policies (taking on the unions gets a double thumbs up from me though), but you have to agree she a million times the leader that the pale pathetic shell of a leader Ed Miliband is. He is the epitome of the worthless career politician that dominates today's politics, but what we actually need are far far more Margaret Thatchers.

As an interesting comparison, look at what Margaret Thatcher has done after leaving politics compared with her modern day Labour counterpart, the success story that is Tony Blair. One travelling round the world in helicopters at taxpayers expense shamelessly doing Israel's bidding to the terrible detriment to the poor Palastians, all the while making millions somehow and no doubt working out clever ways to pay tax, the other a picture of total dignity. Which one's the Tory talisman, which one's Labour?

Do you ever think they'll make a Hollywood film about Tony Blair? Do you think he'll be a baddie if they do?

I've nothing against Jack Straw though incidentally. I actually think Jack's one of those few with integrity. Man did he get led astray by that baddie Blair though eh!