Blackburn MP Jack Straw leads high-profile backing to fans’ takeover plan of Rovers (From This Is Lancashire)

The most likely outcome with only £10m available would be to buy it from the Administrators!
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But good luck guys - I hope you can raise enough to at least be in a position to act as a fans club owned group at the appropriate time in the future.
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Long way to go though.
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33rd......

What a pity the Walker Trust did not honour Jack Walker's achievements by creating a fans trust instead of selling to Venkys?
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Perhaps they will now consider getting involved with some support for this initiative and help its transition if the oppotunity arises?
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33rd....

The motives of a Rovers Trust are great - although some like the local politicians are just jumping on the popularity bandwagon - but realistically 10 million pounds is nowhere near enough to run a Premiership football club, it's less than 3 months wages. Ask Dave Whelan after spending 100 million pounds at Wigan and Craig White at Rangers, he thought he was rich until he realised the costs of running a top flight football club.

I would be suprised if there were 10,000 Rovers fans who could afford to lose 1000 pounds within months of investing.

The fact is that the modern football club owners are foreign, they are divorced from the club and really couldn't care less about the fans, the Glazers and Abramovich are typical, unfortunately they are the only people with the money. If there is a real Rovers fan with a couple of hundred million to spare that would be great.

remember the ' money's no object ' days under jack?

THEY WILL RETURN.

frank carson rip.

'it's the way i tell 'em'

ultra international blackburn rovers olympic rescue.

watch and learn kentaro.

wez.
sofu ltd.

(Smiles On Faces Unlimited )

walking in a shearer wonderland

I'll back this. My only concern is who would manage the club? It would be great to get John Williams back. Another problem is what happened at West Brom...you get a semi devious guy like Jeremy Peace who launches a dodgy takeover to buy the shares for cheap. It definitely needs more than £10m but this is a sensible start and hopefully it will attract a wealthy benefactor. COYB

Put £10 million into context. TSI paid £25 million for 51% of Reading!

I'll back the proposal too. I think its a positive step in the right direction and one we so desperately need right now. The last thing we need is the club in a mess like those mentioned already and the way Venkys are dealing with things it wouldn't surprise me if we are on the first runs of that ladder.

The only thing in our way would be if the Venky's won't sell??

Will they or won't they is the question??

RoversSwiss wrote:
The motives of a Rovers Trust are great - although some like the local politicians are just jumping on the popularity bandwagon - but realistically 10 million pounds is nowhere near enough to run a Premiership football club, it's less than 3 months wages. Ask Dave Whelan after spending 100 million pounds at Wigan and Craig White at Rangers, he thought he was rich until he realised the costs of running a top flight football club.

I would be suprised if there were 10,000 Rovers fans who could afford to lose 1000 pounds within months of investing.

The fact is that the modern football club owners are foreign, they are divorced from the club and really couldn't care less about the fans, the Glazers and Abramovich are typical, unfortunately they are the only people with the money. If there is a real Rovers fan with a couple of hundred million to spare that would be great.

I appreciate your apprehension, Swiss, but it seems like you are not taking into consideration that the Club does indeed have a very substantial revenue stream of its own in addition to its expenses, and would not rely on outside funding for its day to day expenses - cash inflows and outflows are not synchronized, of course, but on balance, can be managed just the same as any other business.

There are two major reasons for Football Clubs making losses.

1 - ownership extracting money from the club for themselves, or otherwise laboring the Club with outside debt not generated from operating activities for their own benefit. This would include being done by third parties who do not have the best interest of the club at heart.

2 - ownership overstepping the financial limits of a club in a bid for Glory, gambling a clubs financial future on prize money.

With an ownership that does not do either of these two things, sensible finances are possible while maintaining a very competitive playing squad, and a quality and competent management structure both on and off the pitch.

midas wrote:
Put £10 million into context. TSI paid £25 million for 51% of Reading!

Understand your point, Midas, but how much of that was a cash outlay? (I have no idea, haven't looked it up)

In the case of Venkys, they paid 17.17 pence for each share, totaling £23m and assumed the debt of the Club at that time, which was approx. £20m, for a total reported purchase price of £43m. It is also reported that Venkys didn't actually pay any cash for the club, but borrowed what they needed in cash.

Readings extrapolated £50m value, and that in the Championship, shows you that it is very difficult to compare the assessment of value between different clubs, and there are many many factors to take into consideration.

This is going to take a lot of money and I doubt if Venkys will sell until they have proved their point. I recall that they intimated they were going to get rid of high earners and replace with youngsters and loan players. The reason for Kean as manager I understood was that he could bring these youngster through with his 'Coaching skills'. Somebody must have said that we had a lot of good youngsters but sadly forgot to say that these kids would not be ready for some time. Also exagerated skills of someone.
Hope it comes off but will be difficultwithout backing of real serious money. I am sure all Rover's fans will support but is not a wealthy area.

dan.
i've emailed you this am.
we are all on the same team.
failure is not an option
we all owe it to brfc and the great traditions of our club.
the machinations of how we do it are mere details.

i predict mancity 3 rovers 3 ( possibly with a yak hattrick )

ultra international blackburn rovers olympic rescue.

wez.

sofu ltd.

Got your email, Wez! Great to have your support!

Hoping your prediction comes to pass!

later dudes!

we are the barmy blackburn army.

long live the rovers.

wez.

Now the Liebour Party is involved........ say goodbye to your rovers.

being a fan owned club would be amazing, however 10 million simply would not be enough, we have debts which need to be covered, we would need money for new players, we need to pay our current players, i think we are looking at around 40-50 million being needed and thats just season 1.

you then need to decided what happens if someone wants to buy the club off the trust, say they off say 20 million with the promise of investment, is the 20 million split between the shareholders? or is it held should the club need saving in the future or do we just give the club to the new buyer on the understanding the 20 million is used for players..

that said my 1k is in the bank and i would give more if needed (and when i save it)

sorry.. also

would it not be a better idea to say... for 1 share its a minium donation of 1k... fans who can afford to pay 1.5k,10k etc may offer more.. meaning more money is raised?

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
What a pity the Walker Trust did not honour Jack Walker's achievements by creating a fans trust instead of selling to Venkys?
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Perhaps they will now consider getting involved with some support for this initiative and help its transition if the oppotunity arises?
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33rd....

It is an insult to the name of Jack Walker,they should be known as the JUDAS TRUST

Here we go as I predicted, Jack riding over the horizon when the consortium get a head of steam up.

£1000 for a share in the Rovers or £100 for a share in Stanley. Which would be better value?

Daniel Louis Grabko wrote:

midas wrote:
Put £10 million into context. TSI paid £25 million for 51% of Reading!

Understand your point, Midas, but how much of that was a cash outlay? (I have no idea, haven't looked it up)

In the case of Venkys, they paid 17.17 pence for each share, totaling £23m and assumed the debt of the Club at that time, which was approx. £20m, for a total reported purchase price of £43m. It is also reported that Venkys didn't actually pay any cash for the club, but borrowed what they needed in cash.

Readings extrapolated £50m value, and that in the Championship, shows you that it is very difficult to compare the assessment of value between different clubs, and there are many many factors to take into consideration.

Dan, isn't this the crux of the issue i.e. potential 'owners' going to the banks/financial institutions for a loan to actually buy the club.
Yes, all businesses run along these lines of 'loans', but with the debacles of previous takeovers scattered around and within football wouldn't you think someone would have by now put some proper guidelines down.
What the supporters are wondering is why can't we/the consortium do similar? I know the answer is you have to have some sizeable capital asset to 'back it up', but although Venkys claimed to have, it seems to us that they have not used any, instead it appears they have 'pillaged' the club to satisfy the debt.
Please note I say 'appears' as that is what it is looking like from the outside.

Being realistic although any idea that gets the Venkys out of our system has to be considered,I think it is inevitable that we will have to go into administration.They will then have bled the club dry,sold all saleable assets,but they won,t leave until after the parachute payments by which time we could be in the second division and we are in for a barren few years,but hope springs eternal that one day we will get our club back.

Robbie wrote:
sorry.. also

would it not be a better idea to say... for 1 share its a minium donation of 1k... fans who can afford to pay 1.5k,10k etc may offer more.. meaning more money is raised?

Hi Robbie,

Thanks for your support!!!

The BRSIT is definitely not going to turn away any level of support from anyone, and we are currently looking at the best ways to achieve this.

IF the initiative were to achieve its goal, it would not relinquish a controlling interest in the club I would imagine, although it would definitely consider partnerships with people who had the right motivations who would like to support the club financially.

Of course any and all excess would be reinvested into the development of the Club, whether that be on players, infrastructure, program development, etc...

There would never be any monetary extraction from the club by the BRSIT, as it would be supporter/community owned, and it would be most unlikely that the owner base/shareholders would vote for or allow the Board of Trustees to actually take money out of the Club, it is anti-thesis to what the initiative is all about.

bring back the good old days wrote:

Daniel Louis Grabko wrote:

midas wrote:
Put £10 million into context. TSI paid £25 million for 51% of Reading!

Understand your point, Midas, but how much of that was a cash outlay? (I have no idea, haven't looked it up)

In the case of Venkys, they paid 17.17 pence for each share, totaling £23m and assumed the debt of the Club at that time, which was approx. £20m, for a total reported purchase price of £43m. It is also reported that Venkys didn't actually pay any cash for the club, but borrowed what they needed in cash.

Readings extrapolated £50m value, and that in the Championship, shows you that it is very difficult to compare the assessment of value between different clubs, and there are many many factors to take into consideration.

Dan, isn't this the crux of the issue i.e. potential 'owners' going to the banks/financial institutions for a loan to actually buy the club.
Yes, all businesses run along these lines of 'loans', but with the debacles of previous takeovers scattered around and within football wouldn't you think someone would have by now put some proper guidelines down.
What the supporters are wondering is why can't we/the consortium do similar? I know the answer is you have to have some sizeable capital asset to 'back it up', but although Venkys claimed to have, it seems to us that they have not used any, instead it appears they have 'pillaged' the club to satisfy the debt.
Please note I say 'appears' as that is what it is looking like from the outside.

bb god -

This is absolutely a major point - the BRSIT and any potential partners out there that might want to join forces with it absolutely will not want to actually increase the debt of the Club through any acquisition process.

It is of course resigned to the fact that taking on whatever current debt is there is a forgone conclusion, the bank must be paid. But a debt acquisition is just not an option as the BRSIT would never condone putting substantial new debt on the Club's shoulders.

Daniel Louis Grabko wrote:

bring back the good old days wrote:

Daniel Louis Grabko wrote:

midas wrote:
Put £10 million into context. TSI paid £25 million for 51% of Reading!

Understand your point, Midas, but how much of that was a cash outlay? (I have no idea, haven't looked it up)

In the case of Venkys, they paid 17.17 pence for each share, totaling £23m and assumed the debt of the Club at that time, which was approx. £20m, for a total reported purchase price of £43m. It is also reported that Venkys didn't actually pay any cash for the club, but borrowed what they needed in cash.

Readings extrapolated £50m value, and that in the Championship, shows you that it is very difficult to compare the assessment of value between different clubs, and there are many many factors to take into consideration.

Dan, isn't this the crux of the issue i.e. potential 'owners' going to the banks/financial institutions for a loan to actually buy the club.
Yes, all businesses run along these lines of 'loans', but with the debacles of previous takeovers scattered around and within football wouldn't you think someone would have by now put some proper guidelines down.
What the supporters are wondering is why can't we/the consortium do similar? I know the answer is you have to have some sizeable capital asset to 'back it up', but although Venkys claimed to have, it seems to us that they have not used any, instead it appears they have 'pillaged' the club to satisfy the debt.
Please note I say 'appears' as that is what it is looking like from the outside.

bb god -

This is absolutely a major point - the BRSIT and any potential partners out there that might want to join forces with it absolutely will not want to actually increase the debt of the Club through any acquisition process.

It is of course resigned to the fact that taking on whatever current debt is there is a forgone conclusion, the bank must be paid. But a debt acquisition is just not an option as the BRSIT would never condone putting substantial new debt on the Club's shoulders.

Dan,

But that is my point.
There is obviously much consternation that no matter how hard we try, is it feasible we are going to be able to raise the required monies.
If the answer is no, it would appear to be doomed to failure.
However, to bolster the bid it may well be that a loan would achieve the required finance in order to make a bid.
As anyone considered approaching the Walker family to ask if they would be prepared to 'stand' this loan. This, much in the same way the Trust acted in the past. It was my understanding that Jack left the edict that only interest upon the cash asset of 300mil could be used to finance the club.
There would be achartes between BRSIT and Walkers that would pledge to honour this debt within a given period.
In this period if assets had to be sold in order to honour it, so be it.
Could this be any worse than what we have now?

But how can Jacks opinion really count:

1) Was he born in Blackburn
2) Does he live in Blackburn
3) Does he attend all fixtures (home and away as well as reserve)
4) Does he sit in the Blackburn end
5) Lower tier
6) Central Lower tier
7) Does he have a BRFC tattoe on his back side
8) Is his middle name Colin
9) Am I drunk?
10) yes, and a good night from him.....

If Wayne, Daniel and others can pull this off they should go down in Rovers' history as legends alongside Jack Walker.
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Most of us feel our club is in real peril and I am sure all Rovers fans are massively grateful for the ongoing rescue efforts.

craftandgraft wrote:
remember the ' money's no object ' days under jack? THEY WILL RETURN. frank carson rip. 'it's the way i tell 'em' ultra international blackburn rovers olympic rescue. watch and learn kentaro. wez. sofu ltd. (Smiles On Faces Unlimited ) walking in a shearer wonderland

He was always my favorite Jockey

Between_the_lions wrote:
Now the Liebour Party is involved........ say goodbye to your rovers.

What does it matter which set of self centred, truth fabricators gets involved. I seem to remember that a certain Mrs M Thatcher being an Honorary member of the clubs board but whenever the issue of Blackburn becoming a city was ever broached, the town was dismissed, as per. They're all as cringe-worthy as each other when it comes to trying to garner support from the local population. Pun intended!

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
What a pity the Walker Trust did not honour Jack Walker's achievements by creating a fans trust instead of selling to Venkys?
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Perhaps they will now consider getting involved with some support for this initiative and help its transition if the oppotunity arises?
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33rd....

Hi Derek . Me and Derek have just met for a pint in the postal order and have agreed that we need to find a grand each to support the cause, But the problem is we are both unemployed scroats

But Derek has come up with a plan, we are going to each sell one of our kidneys to raise the dosh to join the cause.

Venky chicken is yummy.

I think the mechanics of this all sound right. As Daniel has previously posted, the initial funds required is to purchase the club and that will be based on what the current owners demand.

Once this has been done, the trust will then essentially receive all income ie Sky Money, prize money based on league position, Parachute money (Hopefully not) sponsorship money etc. Obviously a full analysis of the club would then be undertaken, as with any business, ie is our income exceeding our outgoings? is our assent base higher than our liabilities? If this is the case then, it will be addressed, perhaps over time.

One huge point mentioned by Daniel, is that we would then no longer have owners taking funds from the club, through the front door or the back door. We all suspect at the minute, certain players have been bought and sold, when it is not in the best interests of the club.

I don't have loads of money, but would be very happy to buy a couple of shares and support the club I love. I can't stand being as detached as I feel under the current regime and longer.

It might be possible that Jerome Anderson would come on board as an advisor.The first thing if it came off would be how to get rid of Kean without a pay off,it would be ironic if the fans had to pay him off.

My predictions from the rest of the fixtures.

TEAM PTS
1 ManCity 93
2 Man Utd 92
3 Spurs 84
4 Chelsea 71
5 Arsenal 69
6 Liverpool 69
7 Newcastle 69
8 Sunderland 50
9 Stoke 49
10 Everton 46
11 Fulham 45
12 Norwich 43
13 Villa 39
14 West Brom 35
15 Swansea 35
16 Blackburn 33
17 Bolton 33
18 QPR 32
19 Wolves 31
20 Wigan 26

According to my predictions Blackburn will draw a lot of the must win games and just scrape it.

QPR have no chance with the fixtures they have coming up even under Hughes.

Wigan look like they may turn it around and climb out at one point but go straight back in.

City draw one game win the rest.

United lose to City win the rest.

Newcastles break into the Champions League places but had too many tough games to sustain their position.

The 3 promoted teams start to burn out at the end and all drop places in the League table.

The fixtures were predicted as if there was no shocks or surprise results.

Great idea but who will do due dilligence on the Venkys situation re finance and true liabilities - it will be a bit like the PR as to truth or not sure.

Do you think Venkys would yes or maybe or possibly change their minds and how do you get them to answer a question to start with

venky's won't talk until they've finished what they've started!

why do fans who wear venkys out tshirts buy programmes, food and drink in the ground-isn't this funding them?

maybe so vic but some people are interested in the teams not the manager or venky's and we have to eat and drink

eddie the eagle wrote:
It might be possible that Jerome Anderson would come on board as an advisor.The first thing if it came off would be how to get rid of Kean without a pay off,it would be ironic if the fans had to pay him off.

Sprayed coffee all over my desk at this one, Eddie!

stick to football wrote:
Great idea but who will do due dilligence on the Venkys situation re finance and true liabilities - it will be a bit like the PR as to truth or not sure.

Do you think Venkys would yes or maybe or possibly change their minds and how do you get them to answer a question to start with

StF, the Working Group of the BRSIT along with its Chartered Accountants and Legal reps as well as a partnering bank/brokerage would be provided full confidential access to all accounts in the event that actual negotiations began for an acquisition, at which time it would be revealed that actual state of assets and liabilities.

carlmc wrote:
I think the mechanics of this all sound right. As Daniel has previously posted, the initial funds required is to purchase the club and that will be based on what the current owners demand.

Once this has been done, the trust will then essentially receive all income ie Sky Money, prize money based on league position, Parachute money (Hopefully not) sponsorship money etc. Obviously a full analysis of the club would then be undertaken, as with any business, ie is our income exceeding our outgoings? is our assent base higher than our liabilities? If this is the case then, it will be addressed, perhaps over time.

One huge point mentioned by Daniel, is that we would then no longer have owners taking funds from the club, through the front door or the back door. We all suspect at the minute, certain players have been bought and sold, when it is not in the best interests of the club.

I don't have loads of money, but would be very happy to buy a couple of shares and support the club I love. I can't stand being as detached as I feel under the current regime and longer.

Absolutely spot on, Carl, with one exception.

The BRSIT would not receive these moneys, the BRF&A PLC would receive them. Full account and financial result projections based on assumed income and expense levels from extrapolations from previous years' accounts have already been drawn up as a guide, so this is not a blind operation - true contents of the accounts would, as said be revealed during the due diligence process.

Daniel Louis Grabko wrote:

carlmc wrote: I think the mechanics of this all sound right. As Daniel has previously posted, the initial funds required is to purchase the club and that will be based on what the current owners demand. Once this has been done, the trust will then essentially receive all income ie Sky Money, prize money based on league position, Parachute money (Hopefully not) sponsorship money etc. Obviously a full analysis of the club would then be undertaken, as with any business, ie is our income exceeding our outgoings? is our assent base higher than our liabilities? If this is the case then, it will be addressed, perhaps over time. One huge point mentioned by Daniel, is that we would then no longer have owners taking funds from the club, through the front door or the back door. We all suspect at the minute, certain players have been bought and sold, when it is not in the best interests of the club. I don't have loads of money, but would be very happy to buy a couple of shares and support the club I love. I can't stand being as detached as I feel under the current regime and longer.

Absolutely spot on, Carl, with one exception. The BRSIT would not receive these moneys, the BRF&A PLC would receive them. Full account and financial result projections based on assumed income and expense levels from extrapolations from previous years' accounts have already been drawn up as a guide, so this is not a blind operation - true contents of the accounts would, as said be revealed during the due diligence process.

Excellent stuff Daniel, I admire your tenacity. Count me in for a couple of shares, I will register my interest.

Why is l.e.t not asking Keans opinion on the takeover they never ask questions like why Mr Straw are you jumping on the bandwagon not heard a mutter out of him on the venkys.Only one Graham Jones now he his a mp .

This is getting beyond ridiculous now.

Taken from the BRSIT website... "What happens after £10m ? That is up to the shareholders. Either more funds could be raised via borrowings, share issues or more realistically by sensible and effective management of the income."

Not being funny, but managing 'The Income' is the extent of the business plan that asks for £10,000,000 investment!! Where do i sign up?!?!?

I remember some twenty odd years ago when each day a group of Rovers fans would congregate at work to discuss their teams Saturday match. Those days seem to be here again but unfortunately another Jack Walker does not seem to be waiting around the corner. Hands up all those who remember Blackburn Rovers before Jack Walker came with lots of money in hand? Instead, you have had the takeover by Venky’s chicken people who are still holding the strings and the usual politicians casting their bait for votes once again.

Perhaps it will be a return back to square one again with groups of faithful followers depicting it‘s future once again. But Blackburn Rovers belongs to Venky’s now and it isn’t ours any more. Such a pity those political vote fishermen didn‘t use their football wisdom when it mattered most before it was sold to Venky’s.

But who’s that I see sitting on the floor with his poor dog playing the same old tune over and over again. It’s Jack Straw and his merry ‘persons’ fishing for votes again!

dp1978 wrote:
This is getting beyond ridiculous now.

Taken from the BRSIT website... "What happens after £10m ? That is up to the shareholders. Either more funds could be raised via borrowings, share issues or more realistically by sensible and effective management of the income."

Not being funny, but managing 'The Income' is the extent of the business plan that asks for £10,000,000 investment!! Where do i sign up?!?!?

Hi, dp -

As you may well understand, it is very difficult to formulate wording in a way that will be satisfactory to all audiences.

Every business plan can be essentially boiled down to 'managing the income' - this concept includes looking at ways to possibly develop and and expand revenue streams (i.e. growing turnover) at the same time as keeping control of expenses - this statement is not referring exclusively to managing initial funds raised, but using them as a seed to develop a working and successful operation from.

However, it is easy to take from this statement, if done so in isolation, that this just means the existing shareholders would be hit for more cash on a continual basis. This is not the case.

Ambitious dreams and a stretch but you have to start somewhere to get traction Agree with most $10,000,000 would not buy you much or be enough to operate stable but with this initiative it could attract someone with real money and drive a wedge through the Venky's death grip on the club

If all is legal and sound then yes I think I would invest just to help bring this club back to reality and respectability

bring back the good old days wrote:

Daniel Louis Grabko wrote:

bring back the good old days wrote:

Daniel Louis Grabko wrote:

midas wrote:
Put £10 million into context. TSI paid £25 million for 51% of Reading!

Understand your point, Midas, but how much of that was a cash outlay? (I have no idea, haven't looked it up)

In the case of Venkys, they paid 17.17 pence for each share, totaling £23m and assumed the debt of the Club at that time, which was approx. £20m, for a total reported purchase price of £43m. It is also reported that Venkys didn't actually pay any cash for the club, but borrowed what they needed in cash.

Readings extrapolated £50m value, and that in the Championship, shows you that it is very difficult to compare the assessment of value between different clubs, and there are many many factors to take into consideration.

Dan, isn't this the crux of the issue i.e. potential 'owners' going to the banks/financial institutions for a loan to actually buy the club.
Yes, all businesses run along these lines of 'loans', but with the debacles of previous takeovers scattered around and within football wouldn't you think someone would have by now put some proper guidelines down.
What the supporters are wondering is why can't we/the consortium do similar? I know the answer is you have to have some sizeable capital asset to 'back it up', but although Venkys claimed to have, it seems to us that they have not used any, instead it appears they have 'pillaged' the club to satisfy the debt.
Please note I say 'appears' as that is what it is looking like from the outside.

bb god -

This is absolutely a major point - the BRSIT and any potential partners out there that might want to join forces with it absolutely will not want to actually increase the debt of the Club through any acquisition process.

It is of course resigned to the fact that taking on whatever current debt is there is a forgone conclusion, the bank must be paid. But a debt acquisition is just not an option as the BRSIT would never condone putting substantial new debt on the Club's shoulders.

Dan,

But that is my point.
There is obviously much consternation that no matter how hard we try, is it feasible we are going to be able to raise the required monies.
If the answer is no, it would appear to be doomed to failure.
However, to bolster the bid it may well be that a loan would achieve the required finance in order to make a bid.
As anyone considered approaching the Walker family to ask if they would be prepared to 'stand' this loan. This, much in the same way the Trust acted in the past. It was my understanding that Jack left the edict that only interest upon the cash asset of 300mil could be used to finance the club.
There would be achartes between BRSIT and Walkers that would pledge to honour this debt within a given period.
In this period if assets had to be sold in order to honour it, so be it.
Could this be any worse than what we have now?

As a direct answer to your question, no, it could not be any worse :)

Of course the BRSIT would be open to having discussions about a scenario as you describe it, but it would have to be very careful about terms that could endanger the financial stability of the Club going forward.

Why is knowone bothered about our rights anymore? Isnt this OUR town.

Are the BANNERS still banned by the Venky Regime?

I'll chip in a grand although I am somewhat sceptical about the whole thing. These fan takeovers never seem to get off the ground.

Jack Straw? High-profile? LET having a giraffe again!! The man's enough problems without being a grintwum for christ's sake! Wasn't he the one who kissed Condoleezza Rice's backside in the boardroom at deadwood?? High-profile indeed!!

I've generally no time for politicians, but in the case of the two mentioned, they are long standing BRFC supporters who cannot be accused of "bandwagon jumping". I sincerely hope that Daniel's plan gets off the ground & I have already registered my interest. I think that once people can see that there is light at the end of the tunnel, there will be a lot of interest from local people, local businesses, & who knows,a big local benefactor. They will see that the club is being run for the right reasons, i.e. for the true supporters of BRFC.
Best of luck, Daniel.

I honestly think this would be a fantastic choice for BRFC. What could be better to lead such a bunch of clowns than one who was a close member of the Blair Circus that milked this country of ours. He can pass on the tips he learned from bBlair to the Venkys then they will be more efficient at stripping the assets.

Champion Muppets and laughing stock of 2012 - BRFC

RupertsReason wrote:

Between_the_lions wrote: Now the Liebour Party is involved........ say goodbye to your rovers.

What does it matter which set of self centred, truth fabricators gets involved. I seem to remember that a certain Mrs M Thatcher being an Honorary member of the clubs board but whenever the issue of Blackburn becoming a city was ever broached, the town was dismissed, as per. They're all as cringe-worthy as each other when it comes to trying to garner support from the local population. Pun intended!

At least Jack Straw actually goes to many Rovers games and has the Club at heart. How many games did Mrs T go to ??
She hated football.

dad-jon123 wrote:
Why is l.e.t not asking Keans opinion on the takeover they never ask questions like why Mr Straw are you jumping on the bandwagon not heard a mutter out of him on the venkys.Only one Graham Jones now he his a mp .

Unfortunately you are wrong dad-jon. Jack Straw hasn't 'jumped on the bandwagon' at all. He's been going to Rovers games since he became MP for Blackburn and has consistently voiced disquiet about the Venky's running of the Club. As has Graham Jones too.
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Well done Jack Straw & Graham Jones.

If Mr Straw is anywhere near this I would not get involved.
I would not trust him as far as I could throw him.
Says one thing and does another.
He certainly is not the way forward.
To be honest I dont see this really getting anywhere.
People come on here saying Venkys out.
Please ask yourself why?
I know its due to lack of investment and false promises and I am as upset/angry as anyone about that.
However, when a takeover group no matter who it is, is scraping round to try to generate 10 million just to launch a takeover bid it surely cant bode well for the future once that takeover has gone through.
I am not a Venkys supporter in any way at all. However I am not sure this is a good idea. Even less so with Jack Straw knocking about!

Yes I agree Its good news Jack Straw and Graham Jones are behind this,I will certainly put my £1000 into this.
Venkys/Kentaro/Kean out!

pm1960 wrote:

dad-jon123 wrote:
Why is l.e.t not asking Keans opinion on the takeover they never ask questions like why Mr Straw are you jumping on the bandwagon not heard a mutter out of him on the venkys.Only one Graham Jones now he his a mp .

Unfortunately you are wrong dad-jon. Jack Straw hasn't 'jumped on the bandwagon' at all. He's been going to Rovers games since he became MP for Blackburn and has consistently voiced disquiet about the Venky's running of the Club. As has Graham Jones too.
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Well done Jack Straw & Graham Jones.

Stop wriggling and face the facts.
You’ve been caught by the master political vote catcher who is forever trumpeting his political deeds. He’ll be telling you next he had nothing to do with Tony Blair’s illegal invasion of Iraq where thousands of innocents died as well as our own and you‘ll probably be believing him!

Jack Straw column 28.10.2010:
If the Venky’s deal for Rovers passes the remaining hurdles, then in my view it will be good news for the club and its loyal fans.
And it may too have the bonus of encouraging a trend already there, of seeing many more folk of Asian heritage at Ewood Park.

Which way is the wind blowing now Jack?

a good friend of mine from ireland was once incarcerated for forgery ... he was filing the edges off 50 pence pieces and passing them off as 20 pence pieces.

he's free now and apparently has a new scheme that's not illegal - but it could generate money.

it's complicated and involves exchange rates, rupees and basically preventing aliens from sucking our money out of blackburn.

my worry is that he is a total nutcase and doesn't know what he's on about.

a safer alternative could be to simply ask people like mr. straw etc. to put their money where their mouths are.

wurzel gummage.

ultra international blackburn rovers olympic rescue.

( or you could all bet on lord lucan turning up at ewood on shergar )

wez.

sofu ltd.

pm1960 wrote:

RupertsReason wrote:

Between_the_lions wrote: Now the Liebour Party is involved........ say goodbye to your rovers.

What does it matter which set of self centred, truth fabricators gets involved. I seem to remember that a certain Mrs M Thatcher being an Honorary member of the clubs board but whenever the issue of Blackburn becoming a city was ever broached, the town was dismissed, as per. They're all as cringe-worthy as each other when it comes to trying to garner support from the local population. Pun intended!

At least Jack Straw actually goes to many Rovers games and has the Club at heart. How many games did Mrs T go to ??
She hated football.

Mrs Thatcher was personally invited to become Hon.Vice President by Jack Walker. Jack Walker thought the world of her and this was very much against the wishes of the then board and in particular my good friend Bill Fox. There was no suggestion of any promises or favours anyway and it would be farcical to consider Blackburn becoming a city ahead say of Preston.

what we need at ewood now is a diplomatic dictator.

wutangclan.

wez.

sofu ltd.

ARE BURNLEY NOW A BETTER CLUB THAN BLACKBURN ROVERS?
The question that all Rovers fans feared would happen, “are Burnley now a better club than Blackburn”?
Probably, they are certainly better run with Chairman Barry Kilby at the helm, they have a better manager in the up and coming Eddie Howe, their finances are stable and well managed.
Their team is probably better than Rovers and they could be heading back to the premiership via the play-offs and replacing Rovers. That would just about cap a nightmare season for all Rovers supporters, certainly the worst season I have experienced both on and off the field since first watching Rovers in 1957.
The news that the excellent Barry Kilby is battling cancer and will be standing down as Burnley chairman is very sad and we all wish him well.
Kilby, in a BBC1 TV interview last week, stated his love for the club and the people of Burnley, going on to say that the traditions of Burnley FC will be maintained and under no circumstances would ever pass into the hands of foreign ownership.
Watching the interview, Kilby reminded me very much of the late Jack Walker with his views and sentiments.
Pity the Walker Trust were not of the same mind when selling Rovers to the Venky’s.

Reg

district01 wrote:

pm1960 wrote:

dad-jon123 wrote:
Why is l.e.t not asking Keans opinion on the takeover they never ask questions like why Mr Straw are you jumping on the bandwagon not heard a mutter out of him on the venkys.Only one Graham Jones now he his a mp .

Unfortunately you are wrong dad-jon. Jack Straw hasn't 'jumped on the bandwagon' at all. He's been going to Rovers games since he became MP for Blackburn and has consistently voiced disquiet about the Venky's running of the Club. As has Graham Jones too.
*
Well done Jack Straw & Graham Jones.

Stop wriggling and face the facts.
You’ve been caught by the master political vote catcher who is forever trumpeting his political deeds. He’ll be telling you next he had nothing to do with Tony Blair’s illegal invasion of Iraq where thousands of innocents died as well as our own and you‘ll probably be believing him!

Jack Straw column 28.10.2010:
If the Venky’s deal for Rovers passes the remaining hurdles, then in my view it will be good news for the club and its loyal fans.
And it may too have the bonus of encouraging a trend already there, of seeing many more folk of Asian heritage at Ewood Park.

Which way is the wind blowing now Jack?

District01 you have just highlighted my point above perfectly well. Thank you.
If Jack Straw has anything to do with this it would be for his gain and his gain only.
Venkys out YES!
But not to what has been suggested to date and certainly not with any MPs being involved.

ARE BURNLEY NOW A BETTER CLUB THAN BLACKBURN ROVERS?
The question that all Rovers fans feared would happen, “are Burnley now a better club than Blackburn”?
Probably, they are certainly better run with Chairman Barry Kilby at the helm, they have a better manager in the up and coming Eddie Howe, their finances are stable and well managed.
Their team is probably better than Rovers and they could be heading back to the premiership via the play-offs and replacing Rovers. That would just about cap a nightmare season for all Rovers supporters, certainly the worst season I have experienced both on and off the field since first watching Rovers in 1957.
The news that the excellent Barry Kilby is battling cancer and will be standing down as Burnley chairman is very sad and we all wish him well.
Kilby, in a BBC1 TV interview last week, stated his love for the club and the people of Burnley, going on to say that the traditions of Burnley FC will be maintained and under no circumstances would ever pass into the hands of foreign ownership.
Watching the interview, Kilby reminded me very much of the late Jack Walker with his views and sentiments.
Pity the Walker Trust were not of the same mind when selling Rovers to the Venky’s.

Reg
www.regoftherovers.c
o.uk

WILL EWOOD BECOME THE NEXT ST JAMES’S PARK
The removal of 11 letters and one apostrophe.
That is all it took to sum up the supreme arrogance of football’s owners and administrators.
Their utter contempt for hard pressed supporters who scrape together scant disposal income each month and invest so much time and emotion for a life time simply for the great escape of following their beloved football team.
When Newcastle’s owner Mike Ashley’s henchman took their crow bars to the words ‘St James Park’ last week, Ashley did much more than vandalise the cathedral which dominates Newcastle’s skyline and the club which represents a proud and passionate region.
His actions symbolise a sneering sense of untouchability which stretches throughout football particularly those under dubious ownership including not only Newcastle but Rangers, Portsmouth and Blackburn Rovers.
It is well known and on public record that Mrs Anuradha Desai first mentioned the renaming of Ewood Park to Venky’s stadium during the first month of their disastrous ownership. There is no doubt that Mrs Desai is the ‘BOSS’ when it comes to the Rao family, any pretence otherwise from brothers Ventkatesh and Balaji is pure fantasy.
The word coming out of the Venky’s HQ in Pune is that Anuradha Desai will seek her revenge on Blackburn Rovers supporters for the treatment handed out to her ‘favourite son’ Steve Kean, by irate and unhappy fans, also for the belittling criticism Venky’s have received from all and sundry, including not only supporters but MP Jack Straw Blackburn Borough Council, Blackburn Chamber of trade and the useless Lancashire Telegraph.
Mrs Desai revenge will be swift and decisive, guaranteed to cause anguish and pain to all.
Ewood Park will become Venky’s Stadium this summer and 'holy hell' will break loose. Venky’s new fast food outlets in the UK could become targets for the ‘graffiti gangs’ as has happened at St James’s Park were the defiant Newcastle fans are not taking the renaming of the ground to ‘SPORTS DIRECT ARENA’ lightly. Newcastle owner can however point to the fact that he has invested a personal fortune reputed to be in excess of 300 million pounds. Unlike the Venky’s who bought Blackburn Rovers on the cheap, and we still have not had an explanation from the Walker Trust as to why.
All my previous warnings from the Venky’s takeover onwards, as posted on this website were ignored and condemned by all and sundry.
DO NOT IGNORE THIS WARNING, ACT NOW AND PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE AND BIRTHRIGHT, EWOOD PARK MUST REMAIN EWOOD PARK.
AND THE SOONER VENKY’S GO, THE BETTER.
Reg
www.regoftherovers.c
o.uk

BETTER FOR EXPERIENCE.
Steve Kean said recently no matter what happens at Blackburn he will be better for the experience. So that’s ok then, nice to know that you will benefit from the experience Steve, but what about us.
You will have a club in total disarray not to mention relegated from the Premiership.
Let’s face it Steve, the job is beyond you and are now realising it with your statement that ‘Relegation’ is a possibility and games are running out.
The first bit of realism you have spoken in the last 12 months, but a nice change from your usual spin and hype.
Do the honourable thing and resign and preserve some of your dignity- GO NOW.
While we are at it, what is the truth behind Ryan Nelsen’s departure? On Saturday he played 90 minutes for Spurs in a tough cup tie at Stevenage against dogged opponents on a poor pitch and he was outstanding. According to you Steve he was not fit to play for the Rovers. How we could have done with Nelsen in defence as we face a difficult last 13 games with relegation looming.
Not long ago Ryan Nelsen pledged his future to the Rovers saying “he would finish his career at Ewood, it is the right and proper thing to do” these quotes are on public record. So what went wrong Steve? Another of your lies? Or are you once again having to take the flak for another Venky’s decision?
And why is there this week a news blackout from Ewood and Brockhall, fearful of a few embarrassing questions Steve?

Reg

www.regoftherovers.c
o.uk

Reg Rover wrote:
ARE BURNLEY NOW A BETTER CLUB THAN BLACKBURN ROVERS?
The question that all Rovers fans feared would happen, “are Burnley now a better club than Blackburn”?
Probably, they are certainly better run with Chairman Barry Kilby at the helm, they have a better manager in the up and coming Eddie Howe, their finances are stable and well managed.
Their team is probably better than Rovers and they could be heading back to the premiership via the play-offs and replacing Rovers. That would just about cap a nightmare season for all Rovers supporters, certainly the worst season I have experienced both on and off the field since first watching Rovers in 1957.
The news that the excellent Barry Kilby is battling cancer and will be standing down as Burnley chairman is very sad and we all wish him well.
Kilby, in a BBC1 TV interview last week, stated his love for the club and the people of Burnley, going on to say that the traditions of Burnley FC will be maintained and under no circumstances would ever pass into the hands of foreign ownership.
Watching the interview, Kilby reminded me very much of the late Jack Walker with his views and sentiments.
Pity the Walker Trust were not of the same mind when selling Rovers to the Venky’s.

Reg

Well said Reg. Obviously I have my own answers to your questions but I'll keep them to myself here. Hats off to you!

Brilliant plan. Just a couple of slight problems. Venkys aint selling and you will not raise 10 quid let alone 10 million. As for Jack the man of Straw...........its time to put up or shut up.So come on Mr Gobby, tell us exactly how much you will be investing ?

It certainly is a fine gesture for supporters to raise this amount of money and if only to have a structure in place for the worst case senario, should the Venky,s totally stuff it up in the next six months, it will be worth the effort indeed.
Everyone would agree that the Venky,s have done a wonderful job via their style of ownership & management of the club to isolating the fans and for everyone to have this feeling of detachment from "their" team & local club.
Would be wonderful to see a return of some credibility & an open, honest relationship between all parties.
This is only the tip of the iceberg with what it is going to take for the running of a Premier (or Championship) club.
Yet there does seem some very professional personal attached to this concept, that could make it happen has a successful long-term business, if structured well from the start.
Increase revenue & very tight control on all expenses plus no "clipping the ticket" at the clubs expense are all basic "musts".
Of course, politicians find this very difficult to control....so has long as Mr Straw is only vote catching and contributing, one would see no problem !
The Venky,s have their own agenda and whether they are prepared to open up (seems very unlikely based on the last 15 months) or better still sell-up, no one knows at this moment how it will play out.
One thing they DO NOT control is the "PEOPLE POWER".
- season ticket sales
- attendance
- sales of club memorabilia at the club shop
- sponsorship of players and club VIA LOCAL BUSINESSES.
This is what would need to be tightly managed and brought to the negoiating table ASAP and state the fans intentions very clearly.
Wishing the very best to the drivers of this project.
**** on U Blues

burnley are eight miles from blackburn. better ? different. i went to ewood one saturday and burnley the next. way back. burnley were great. what happened? nowt to do with blackburn. suicide is dangerous.

rovers won't suffer the same fate.

my dad told me that people from yorkshire are tw*tts. it's geoography and bigotry.

amazing bfc have the youngest manager ever.

best of luck bfc - but grow up.

my best friends are claret and blue. ( could be the water )

i've never been to abi dabi.

keith fletcher told me dad you are one of the best clubs near to the home of football.

all our best wishes.

brfc ( treacy is a gem ) & you are welcome.

steak pudding chips and gravy.

p.s. bob lord's carpets came from china.

arnold schwarchenegger.

ultra blackburn rovers international olympic rescue.

( non dingles welcome )

wez.

sofu ltd.

http://www.thewildbl
ackburnrover.com/

Robbie wrote:
sorry.. also

would it not be a better idea to say... for 1 share its a minium donation of 1k... fans who can afford to pay 1.5k,10k etc may offer more.. meaning more money is raised?

I hope this is a joke?

My twopenneth is that it won't happen.

One of the traitors to the British people, of the last labour government, is now becoming all patriotic and supporting his football club, from being swallowed up in incompetence and corruption by our Indian owners. Could not make it up!!

Immigration for votes. Jog your memory Jack? Go back to hiding under that rock.

Ewood park is in a prime position for property development. Would it possible Venkeys could sell to Wimpey homes. Save all the **** that is going on with Blackburns so called supporters.

Pretty soon Brian Swanson from Sky Sports news will be stood on the car park at the back of the Blackburn end.

And we all know what that means......The receivers are in as the Club will have gone into administration.

A la, Portsmouth & Rangers

Venkies you really know how to balls things up spectacularly dont you??

Silence from the Indians...Again!”

We as blackburn rovers fan need to take are club back,
there is an organised march before the villa game,
3 marchs all going at once then joining each other,
The march is for fans who want to take the club back, we need public support here from everybody if you have given up going to ewood then just please come and join the march all fans need to be one now,
the locations for the march are
The havelock
The golden cup
Uncle jacks,

please can everybody be there before 2pm,
we want are club back so please take part and show your support for this cause,
we have an option now on the table so we need to push these scum bag venkys striaght out the door!!!

We as blackburn rovers fan need to take are club back,
there is an organised march before the villa game,
3 marchs all going at once then joining each other,
The march is for fans who want to take the club back, we need public support here from everybody if you have given up going to ewood then just please come and join the march all fans need to be one now,
the locations for the march are
The havelock
The golden cup
Uncle jacks,

please can everybody be there before 2pm,
we want are club back so please take part and show your support for this cause,
we have an option now on the table so we need to push these scum bag venkys striaght out the door!!!

the jibbs fans owning a chicken shiit club i cant stop laughing