Burnley cyclist made cleaver threat to car driver
12:09pm Tuesday 22nd February 2011 in News By Wendy Barlow, Court reporter
A CYCLIST who threatened a motorist with a meat cleaver after he knocked him off his bike has six months to prove he can keep out of trouble.
Martin Rush, 28, has a long record and was due to start a domestic violence programme, but was said to be turning his back on crime.
He is alleged to have told Amjad Ali: “You better watch your back and sleep with one eye open.
“I am going to cut your ears off,” Burnley Crown Court heard.
Rush had his sentence deferred until August 5, after admitting possessing an offensive weapon, last July.
Judge Beverley Lunt said Rush was not ‘a bit of a kid’, and the offence was serious, but he had been keeping out of trouble lately.
She told Rush, of Albert Street, Burnley, that she was giving him a chance to prove he had changed permanently and not just because he had been due to appear in court.
Simeon Evans, prosecuting, said Mr Ali was in his car in Albert Street, slightly lost control on the corner and clipped Rush’s bicycle.
The two men had an argument and the defendant said he pulled open the door and Mr Ali produced a knife and threatened him.
Comments(36)
Pizapot
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12:32pm Tue 22 Feb 11
happycyclist
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12:35pm Tue 22 Feb 11
A car is a ton of LETHAL metal in the wrong hands and if Ali can't control his car on a corner he needs to have some more bloody driving lessons because he isn't fit to be on the road.
Any normal person would be angry if they'd been knocked off their bike because of some arsehole of a motorist. To then have a knife pulled on you and then find yourself in court just for making a threat is unbelivable!
Ali hit cyclist with car -check. Ali pulls knife on cyclist he has just knocked off -check. Cyclist is angry and threatens Ali -cyclist goes to court.
FFS!
burner
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12:42pm Tue 22 Feb 11
maltablackburnian
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12:51pm Tue 22 Feb 11
nice person
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12:57pm Tue 22 Feb 11
You could say he was in shock,not as much as the readers who are reading this.Possession of a weapon in the car with threats to use it no charge.Dangerous driving.No charge!!
Cycling down the road,knocked of your bike,threatened with a knife.
Should be case dismissed..Non answerable.Mr Ali-Prison for having an offensive weapon in public-Risk to cyclist's on the road..
CapitaBackHander
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1:11pm Tue 22 Feb 11
happycyclist
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1:23pm Tue 22 Feb 11
burner wrote:LOL! I knew you'd come round to my way of thinking eventually!
Is this a cycling-world first? I am in agreement with you, happyc !
burner
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1:30pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Jimmy Paterson
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2:50pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Gupta
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3:09pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Jimmy Paterson wrote:Fully agree mait we now have to pay Road Tax and intsurance cause of dat bloody AMPR and these non payers on der bikes is always gedin int way and slowin down mi Taxis givem chop I say aswell.
Flippin cyclists think they own the own the road ( despite paying nowt towards it ) - about time some of them were given the chop ....
burner
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3:21pm Tue 22 Feb 11
ballbags
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3:21pm Tue 22 Feb 11
happycyclist
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4:30pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Gupta wrote:Dearie me, you lot are like the skeleton warriors in Jason and the Argonauts -you come at us in waves with no meat on your arguments.
Jimmy Paterson wrote:Fully agree mait we now have to pay Road Tax and intsurance cause of dat bloody AMPR and these non payers on der bikes is always gedin int way and slowin down mi Taxis givem chop I say aswell.
Flippin cyclists think they own the own the road ( despite paying nowt towards it ) - about time some of them were given the chop ....
I'll say this once more for the hard of thinking: The reason cyclists don't pay road tax (or vehicle excise duty to give it its proper name) is because we don't have to. It's a simple concept to grasp -but not as simple as you.
As a taxi driver, why don't you pay the same road tax as a HGV driver? That's right; because you don't have to.
Chris P Bacon
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4:42pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Gupta wrote:Makes me despair to know there are ignorant, idiotic morons like this around. Winston Churchill stopped Road Tax and car-drivers paying for the upkeep of roads in the 1920s. There is no such thing as road tax. To repeat that...THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ROAD TAX. What you are referring to is VED. Vehicle Excise Duty. This is NOT anything to do with the upkeep of the roads. Anyone reckoning cyclists are not contributing to the same thing motorists contribute to is away with the fairies.
Jimmy Paterson wrote:Fully agree mait we now have to pay Road Tax and intsurance cause of dat bloody AMPR and these non payers on der bikes is always gedin int way and slowin down mi Taxis givem chop I say aswell.
Flippin cyclists think they own the own the road ( despite paying nowt towards it ) - about time some of them were given the chop ....
happycyclist
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5:13pm Tue 22 Feb 11
bikerjohn_uk
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5:16pm Tue 22 Feb 11
bikerjohn_uk
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5:19pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Jimmy Paterson wrote:Well actually, I do pay towards the roads because I own a car as well. Tosser.
Flippin cyclists think they own the own the road ( despite paying nowt towards it ) - about time some of them were given the chop ....
Chris P Bacon
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5:39pm Tue 22 Feb 11
happycyclist wrote:So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational.
Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!
But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
Jimmy Paterson
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6:10pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Bacon can you stick your near misses on you tube they're great to watch mate -- cheers
Barb-Dwyer
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6:16pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Chris P Bacon
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7:04pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Barb-Dwyer wrote:Who, bikes? They'd make a lot of damage, wouldn't they? Muppet.
They're a bleedin danger on the roads - theres a guy cycles through langho every morning from the direction of Blackburn and is going that fast he never gives way at any of the mini roundabouts - I would love to see him knocked off bet he wouldn't stop sliding 'til Whalley LOL
It usually comes down to jealousy, this sort of nonsense attitude.
Gupta
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7:56pm Tue 22 Feb 11
happycyclist wrote:Happy cicle bet u is one of dem on dem bike tings that ride two breasts slowin mi taxi down.Is you one a deese ?
Gupta wrote:Dearie me, you lot are like the skeleton warriors in Jason and the Argonauts -you come at us in waves with no meat on your arguments. I'll say this once more for the hard of thinking: The reason cyclists don't pay road tax (or vehicle excise duty to give it its proper name) is because we don't have to. It's a simple concept to grasp -but not as simple as you. As a taxi driver, why don't you pay the same road tax as a HGV driver? That's right; because you don't have to.Jimmy Paterson wrote: Flippin cyclists think they own the own the road ( despite paying nowt towards it ) - about time some of them were given the chop ....Fully agree mait we now have to pay Road Tax and intsurance cause of dat bloody AMPR and these non payers on der bikes is always gedin int way and slowin down mi Taxis givem chop I say aswell.
happycyclist
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8:03pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Chris P Bacon wrote:That's probably a fair assessment of motorists, though it often seems worse. But of course, when an 'accident' does occur, it is always the cyclist who is worse off.
happycyclist wrote:So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational.
Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!
But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
It's as though because you're on a bike, you don't matter. You haven't got a job to go to, a family to support, kids who want to see you come home rather than having to visit you in hospital. I know doctors and nurses, policemen and firemen, health workers and teachers -valuable people in society- who all ride bikes, yet all can tell stories of how their lives mean nothing when some cretin in a car is a couple of minutes late for something.
There's plenty of room on the roads for everyone. What there isn't enough room for is everyone's egos and inconsideration.
Stay safe yourself.
Gupta
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8:09pm Tue 22 Feb 11
happycyclist wrote:Well ciclehappyist proboobly safest way to travel mait Is in my Taxi like Init.
Chris P Bacon wrote:That's probably a fair assessment of motorists, though it often seems worse. But of course, when an 'accident' does occur, it is always the cyclist who is worse off. It's as though because you're on a bike, you don't matter. You haven't got a job to go to, a family to support, kids who want to see you come home rather than having to visit you in hospital. I know doctors and nurses, policemen and firemen, health workers and teachers -valuable people in society- who all ride bikes, yet all can tell stories of how their lives mean nothing when some cretin in a car is a couple of minutes late for something. There's plenty of room on the roads for everyone. What there isn't enough room for is everyone's egos and inconsideration. Stay safe yourself.happycyclist wrote: Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational. But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
Gupta
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8:34pm Tue 22 Feb 11
Chris P Bacon wrote:Hey Burn't Bacon Butty is dat legal filming ur Rides?
happycyclist wrote: Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational. But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
sea pigeon
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10:48pm Tue 22 Feb 11
nice person
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12:59am Wed 23 Feb 11
Gupta wrote:Can't see a problem with it-Having a knife in a car would be my concern,with the unsteady hands he has to begin with,it doesn't bear thinking about.
Chris P Bacon wrote:Hey Burn't Bacon Butty is dat legal filming ur Rides?
happycyclist wrote: Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational. But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
Maybe we should take the bends out of the roads to simplify them for you.If any of you knock me off my penny farthing they'll be hell to pay:)
Babbar Divino
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1:19am Wed 23 Feb 11
Chris P Bacon wrote:I reckon you'd be better off not filming and keeping your eye on the road. I just have vision of you on a sit up and beg bike (with a basket on the front and no corss bar) one hand on the handle bars the other holding the camera to your eye
happycyclist wrote:So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational.
Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!
But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
happycyclist
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6:10am Wed 23 Feb 11
Babbar Divino wrote:Head-cams. Quite a number of cyclists use them now. Small cameras attached to your helmet. They've been used successfully to prosecute dangerous drivers.
Chris P Bacon wrote:I reckon you'd be better off not filming and keeping your eye on the road. I just have vision of you on a sit up and beg bike (with a basket on the front and no corss bar) one hand on the handle bars the other holding the camera to your eye
happycyclist wrote:So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational.
Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!
But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
A much better idea would be to make small cameras in cars mandatory, showing what motorists have done in the event of an accident or even a near miss, if reported, and to have heavy penalties for a malfunctioning or obscured camera.
The technology is out there to make our roads much safer, one way or another, but the political will isn't because the motoring lobby is far too strong. So year on year we put up with 3,500 deaths on our roads, mostly caused by motorists. It's a lottery that nobody wants to be in but, as the saying goes, It Could Be You (or yours).
Chris P Bacon
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8:41am Wed 23 Feb 11
Babbar Divino wrote:It's a head-cam. Attached to my helmet. And you are a berk.
Chris P Bacon wrote:I reckon you'd be better off not filming and keeping your eye on the road. I just have vision of you on a sit up and beg bike (with a basket on the front and no corss bar) one hand on the handle bars the other holding the camera to your eye
happycyclist wrote:So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational.
Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!
But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
Gupta
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10:15am Wed 23 Feb 11
Chris P Bacon wrote:So Burnt Bacon Butty you is attaching a camera to your Helmet init before you ride your Bike ? Doe's dis not hurt?
Babbar Divino wrote:It's a head-cam. Attached to my helmet. And you are a berk.Chris P Bacon wrote:I reckon you'd be better off not filming and keeping your eye on the road. I just have vision of you on a sit up and beg bike (with a basket on the front and no corss bar) one hand on the handle bars the other holding the camera to your eyehappycyclist wrote: Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational. But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
nice person
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5:18pm Wed 23 Feb 11
Gupta wrote:Gupta-you can spell bacon butty ok?
Chris P Bacon wrote:So Burnt Bacon Butty you is attaching a camera to your Helmet init before you ride your Bike ? Doe's dis not hurt?
Babbar Divino wrote:It's a head-cam. Attached to my helmet. And you are a berk.Chris P Bacon wrote:I reckon you'd be better off not filming and keeping your eye on the road. I just have vision of you on a sit up and beg bike (with a basket on the front and no corss bar) one hand on the handle bars the other holding the camera to your eyehappycyclist wrote: Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational. But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
I think i would rather see a cyclist with a head cam,than a bus driver with a burka,how can that be safe?
All round clear vision on busy roads and roundabouts??
Chris P Bacon
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5:50pm Wed 23 Feb 11
nice person wrote:Gupta's a WUM so best ignored when he's in that sort of mood.
Gupta wrote:Gupta-you can spell bacon butty ok?
Chris P Bacon wrote:So Burnt Bacon Butty you is attaching a camera to your Helmet init before you ride your Bike ? Doe's dis not hurt?
Babbar Divino wrote:It's a head-cam. Attached to my helmet. And you are a berk.Chris P Bacon wrote:I reckon you'd be better off not filming and keeping your eye on the road. I just have vision of you on a sit up and beg bike (with a basket on the front and no corss bar) one hand on the handle bars the other holding the camera to your eyehappycyclist wrote: Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational. But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
I think i would rather see a cyclist with a head cam,than a bus driver with a burka,how can that be safe?
All round clear vision on busy roads and roundabouts??
As for ANYone driving with a Burka on, that's GOT to be banned REGARDLESS of the person's religion. Anyone wearing anything that obscures or obstructs their vision should be heavily fined and anyone wearing a burka, which completely blanks off any peripheral vision, has NO rights to be behind the wheel on the roads.
Gupta
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7:36pm Wed 23 Feb 11
Chris P Bacon wrote:Hey B Butty Head you still not com bac to me on the Helmet cam mi Julie thinks you is being rude.
nice person wrote:Gupta's a WUM so best ignored when he's in that sort of mood. As for ANYone driving with a Burka on, that's GOT to be banned REGARDLESS of the person's religion. Anyone wearing anything that obscures or obstructs their vision should be heavily fined and anyone wearing a burka, which completely blanks off any peripheral vision, has NO rights to be behind the wheel on the roads.Gupta wrote:Gupta-you can spell bacon butty ok? I think i would rather see a cyclist with a head cam,than a bus driver with a burka,how can that be safe? All round clear vision on busy roads and roundabouts??Chris P Bacon wrote:So Burnt Bacon Butty you is attaching a camera to your Helmet init before you ride your Bike ? Doe's dis not hurt?Babbar Divino wrote:It's a head-cam. Attached to my helmet. And you are a berk.Chris P Bacon wrote:I reckon you'd be better off not filming and keeping your eye on the road. I just have vision of you on a sit up and beg bike (with a basket on the front and no corss bar) one hand on the handle bars the other holding the camera to your eyehappycyclist wrote: Makes YOU despair, Chris? I've to share the roads with these idiots!So have I. I got almost totalled today just outside Sabden. I film virtually all my rides now so I have this on record. To be honest, I find about 90% of all drivers to be between courteous, excellent and very good for cyclists to share the road with. Of the remaining 10%, half are just useless but there's an element of the rest who are downright dangerous and some are just confrontational. But anyway, good and safe riding to you.
Oneofouronionsismissing
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6:46pm Thu 24 Feb 11
Am always curtious. Its just when like the other day one tried to undertake me whilst I was indicating to turn left. Only have a door mirror to see, and thankfully saw him just in time. But then I get a two finger salute.
Also I am sure the highway code says cyclists should ride single file when in groups. Bloody annoying when they wont move over whilst riding 3 abrest.
But on the whole cyclists are ok, and most are curtious on the roads.
Truth will out says...
12:28pm Tue 22 Feb 11