6:10am Friday 19th March 2010 in
THE Bishop of Blackburn has urged East Lancashire people to vote and defeat ‘the politics of hate’ in the forthcoming General Election.
WIth experts predicting an election on May 6, the Rt Rev Nicholas Reade has rejected suggestions the church should stay out of politics.
Instead, in an address tomorrow to members of the Blackburn Diocesan Synod, he will set out the issues he believes Christians need to consider before deciding who to vote for.
Urging voters to reject extremist parties, Bishop Reade will say: “God's Kingdom is not just the Church, but it embraces the world as well. That means God is also concerned with what you and I do on May 6, or whatever date the Prime Minister chooses.
“In difficult economic times there are always those who are tempted to look for solutions among extreme political parties, and we need to underline that the politics of hatred can never come up with a solution to our problems.
“Hate won't repay one penny of the money the banks lost in 2008. Hate isn't going to build one single affordable home.”
And in an obvious reference to the 2007 closure of Burnley General Hospital’s emergency department, he will add: “Hate isn't going to reopen a closed accident and emergency unit.”
The Bishop will also urge Christian voters to show 'bias' to the poor when voting on economics and bias to strangers on law and order issues.
He will add: “I hope the people of our diocese and county will not wander towards apathy in the coming weeks, but rather renew their political commitment for God's sake, not ours.
“Otherwise we are in danger of becoming unjust stewards of the democracy for which many have died, and failing citizens of the kingdom Jesus died to establish.”
Members of the Blackburn Diocesan Synod will meet tomorrow in Preston.
Comments(71)
AnthonyUK
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7:43am Fri 19 Mar 10
Excluded
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7:57am Fri 19 Mar 10
CAG1
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8:02am Fri 19 Mar 10
happycyclist
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10:08am Fri 19 Mar 10
time.team
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11:21am Fri 19 Mar 10
Mike Costa
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11:39am Fri 19 Mar 10
phoebesgrandad
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12:15pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Excluded wrote:Are you sure we have freedom of speach in this country Exclude? I don't like to think what would happen if people did say what they think,the PC police would be all over you like a bad rash.It is between me and the ballot box who I vote for but I will tell you that there is a ground swell of public leaning towards the Right and the good Bishop has helped their cause no end,after all who can trust the clergy 100%?
Outrageous. The Bishop has expressed his views on a moral issue.
The right wing political correctness club are up in arms. He should not be allowed to say this. How dare he express an opinion which criticises our moral choices. He should be silenced.
The Bishop has every right to express his views. The Bishop has every right to say what he thinks. Maybe if the BNP gain power, he will be silenced, but we still have freedom of speech in this country.
DavidBurnley
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12:21pm Fri 19 Mar 10
phoebesgrandad
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12:24pm Fri 19 Mar 10
DavidBurnley wrote:Spot on David.
Mike - if you are going to attack others based on their use of grammar or spelling, it might be an idea to get your own in order first. I think you may find that where you used ' in tact' you meant 'intact'?
My own opinion is that bishops should stick to 'bishoping' and let politicians stick to 'politicianing' More importantly they should leave voters to voting - for whom ever they want, of their own free choice and without any pressure based on so called morals or 'lessons from history'.
Private I
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12:44pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Jack-son
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12:46pm Fri 19 Mar 10
John Bold
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12:47pm Fri 19 Mar 10
DavidBurnley wrote:Actually, Mike's mistake was neither a spelling or grammer mistake. it was a typing error. far less important. but you nit picking, simple minded plebs wouldn't understand that.
Mike - if you are going to attack others based on their use of grammar or spelling, it might be an idea to get your own in order first. I think you may find that where you used ' in tact' you meant 'intact'? My own opinion is that bishops should stick to 'bishoping' and let politicians stick to 'politicianing' More importantly they should leave voters to voting - for whom ever they want, of their own free choice and without any pressure based on so called morals or 'lessons from history'.
Mike Costa
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12:49pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Mike Costa
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12:53pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Jack-son
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12:59pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Jack-son
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1:04pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Imran786
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1:23pm Fri 19 Mar 10
akon wrote:Just picked this comment because it is the truth. I am a muslim i feel the BNP policys are spot on this country is falling apart due to political correctness and i understand what the BNP policys are but they put them across WRONG. The church - mosques should stay out off poiltics last i heard we were a free country but looks like we not!!!!!!!!
CAG1, Blackburn with Darwen EXACTLY . How many cover-ups have there been due to the filthy perverted clergy with countless young boys,yet the offenders are just been moved to another area to commit more vile acts !! Excluded, Darwen Like i said the bishop can/will vote for who HE wants ,that is called DEMOCRACY . Yes he can say what he feels. But why pick on one party ref his childish outbursts ,what about the old peoples homes closures,what about the 2 illegal wars,what about home-grown terrorism ,what about the expenses scandal,what about the sh*t state this country is in ? Is that the fault of the BNP ? Get a life !!
Mike Costa
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1:30pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Gaius Grossus
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1:33pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Gaius Grossus
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1:36pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Joseph Yossarian
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1:50pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Lancs - pensioner
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1:50pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Gaius Grossus
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2:00pm Fri 19 Mar 10
AnthonyUK wrote:No we should not. Faith is about life and poitics is part of life. Therefore the people of faith, both Christians and others, should be involved.
Gaius Grossus wrote: Speaking as one of the Bishops flock I refute totally this idea that the church it not be involved in politics. Of course it should. We are to seek the best for all people and in this country that means being involved in politics. And yes any sex abuse scandals are terrible, but just because we call ourselves Christian does not change one jot our human falibilities, for everyone falls short.The church should keep out of politics and stick to religeon-it shouldn't be involved in what doesn't concern it(and politics is one of them).
kaotic kaos
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2:05pm Fri 19 Mar 10
AnthonyUK
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2:13pm Fri 19 Mar 10
akon
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2:18pm Fri 19 Mar 10
AnthonyUK
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2:26pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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2:51pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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2:55pm Fri 19 Mar 10
wackyracer
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3:02pm Fri 19 Mar 10
ste.g
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3:29pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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3:41pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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3:44pm Fri 19 Mar 10
John Bold
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3:57pm Fri 19 Mar 10
AnthonyUK
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3:59pm Fri 19 Mar 10
John Bold wrote:How dare you? I vote BNP and work you tool!
Oh come on - how can you justify voting BNP you morons? Surely you realise that they propagate hatred and unrest? The do not work for the good of Britain and the British. They are media-hungry, ego-maniacal and thoughtless. This country is made up of immigrants from far-away lands, and the biggest drain on the welfare state is not immigrants, who come here to improve their standard of life, but white trash content to sit on the behinds and milk their benefits for years on end. If you go down to your local Weatherspoons at 9am on Monday who will you see? Immigrants drinking their giro away? Nope. You'll see uneducated, hopeless, white trash wasting their time, and the resources of this "great" country. Sometimes the problem is a little closer to home, and instead of looking to blame others, look at yourself. I have no love or support for the church in anyway, but this bloke is probably way more infromed than any BNP voter. If your political ideology revolves around voting for somebody that has no political ideology other than hatred, your fighting a losing battle.
John Bold
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4:12pm Fri 19 Mar 10
stemark
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5:36pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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6:35pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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Ken Shuffles
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8:48pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Tosh67
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8:51pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Mike Costa wrote:Mike Costa,
Mike Costa says: Jack-son. Yes spelling does matter, as it gives an indication of the intelligence and education level of the writer. I refer back to what I said before. The BNP relies predominantly on the uneducated sectors of socity for their support
Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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11:52pm Fri 19 Mar 10
bankhall
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1:47pm Sat 20 Mar 10
bankhall
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1:47pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Hammurabi
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4:53pm Sat 20 Mar 10
John Bold wrote:John Bold, you make a reasonable point but seem to overlook something. It is the policies of successive Labour/tory governments that has created an underclass of welfare-dependant anti-social "white-trash", and it is those same welfare policies coupled with a lax attitude to law and order that makes this country such an ideal target for immigrants. Your argument just replaces one reason for voting BNP with another.
Oh come on - how can you justify voting BNP you morons? Surely you realise that they propagate hatred and unrest? The do not work for the good of Britain and the British. They are media-hungry, ego-maniacal and thoughtless. This country is made up of immigrants from far-away lands, and the biggest drain on the welfare state is not immigrants, who come here to improve their standard of life, but white trash content to sit on the behinds and milk their benefits for years on end. If you go down to your local Weatherspoons at 9am on Monday who will you see? Immigrants drinking their giro away? Nope. You'll see uneducated, hopeless, white trash wasting their time, and the resources of this "great" country. Sometimes the problem is a little closer to home, and instead of looking to blame others, look at yourself. I have no love or support for the church in anyway, but this bloke is probably way more infromed than any BNP voter. If your political ideology revolves around voting for somebody that has no political ideology other than hatred, your fighting a losing battle.
KBB
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8:05pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Sal
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8:52pm Sat 20 Mar 10
DBrad
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brfcrules
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Ken Shuffles
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Ken Shuffles
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Ken Shuffles
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12:34pm Sun 21 Mar 10
AnthonyUK
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7:51am Mon 22 Mar 10
John Bold wrote:Immigrants/asylumsee
I didn't say that BNP workers don't work. I said that the big drains on society are not immigrants as the BNP would like you to believe. And i believe that it is in fact you sir, who is the tool.
Roverino
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2:15pm Mon 22 Mar 10
John Bold
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3:38pm Mon 22 Mar 10
AnthonyUK wrote:You really are dim aren't you.
John Bold wrote: I didn't say that BNP workers don't work. I said that the big drains on society are not immigrants as the BNP would like you to believe. And i believe that it is in fact you sir, who is the tool.Immigrants/asylumsee kers and refugees DO create drains on the countries' resources and i'll tell you why: (a)They refuse to speak English, (b)They refuse to follow and abide by UK laws, (c)they turn parts of the country into ghettos which purely support their own kind, (d)they bring their own ways of life over here and expect everybody else to change their ways of life to fit around them ie serve halal in schools/restaurants/ fast food outlets etc:think KFC and Macdonalds etc, when it is them who should be fitting themselves around us when they come here, in Birmingham the nurseries teach white british kids to speak Urdu and sing nursery rhymes in Urdu-WHY should that be allowed? If I had kids who were being taught to speak Urdu or other minority languages and learn their ways, I would pull them out and not allow them to continue their nursery education, (e)they scream racism at things which may be considered minor/trivial in order to get them banned or restricted i.e in Oxfordshire nurseries refuse to sing baabaa black sheep they sing baabaa rainbow sheep because of the risk of offending others thru the word 'black', and some councils have changed their christmas celebrations by calling it 'Winterval' to fit around other ethnic minorities, (f)They claim their humanrights "have been abused" if they have been refused asylum into the UK and all other means have been exhausted, and as a result OUR solicitors stick up for them instead of the Immigration Service being allowed to do their job and deport them without being unhindered by these so called humanrights "dogooders", (g)They get everything given to them on a plate housing/benefits etc while our own old people who have paid taxes all their lives get meagre pensions and benefits provision because it's all being given to these people who get first refusal over our own, (h)They moan and scream when any attempt is made to deport them or jail them for wrongdoing in the UK. Those reasons alone are I voted for the BNP in the North West Euro Elections and why I'am voting them again at the general election as well(and you can ALL call me whatever you like for doing so because I don't care one bit what the Church is saying nor do I so there!!!).
AnthonyUK
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9:41am Tue 23 Mar 10
John Bold wrote:And who are you to tell me who to vote for and "love your immigrants"? I don't like them full stop and you won't change that. AND I will still vote BNP!
I am neither "kissing their backsides" or doing what they want. I am merely highlighting that they are not the problem that the BNP would like you to believe they are. They create far fewer problems the indigenous population do. The indigenous people of this nation are made up of immigrants and although this has been watered down through the years, it makes little difference. Why vote for a political company that has no policies?
John Bold
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1:15pm Tue 23 Mar 10
AnthonyUK wrote:You really need to learn to read. At what point did a tell you who to vote for? I'm not trying to change your mind. I can tell that it would be nearly impossible to. I am mearly trying to show you that you are not voting for a sensible, patriotic party, but for a group of uneducated thugs. I'm not sure, but you may feel at home with them?
John Bold wrote: I am neither "kissing their backsides" or doing what they want. I am merely highlighting that they are not the problem that the BNP would like you to believe they are. They create far fewer problems the indigenous population do. The indigenous people of this nation are made up of immigrants and although this has been watered down through the years, it makes little difference. Why vote for a political company that has no policies?And who are you to tell me who to vote for and "love your immigrants"? I don't like them full stop and you won't change that. AND I will still vote BNP!
AnthonyUK
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1:30pm Tue 23 Mar 10
John Bold wrote:At least they'll get it sorted unlike the mainstream misfits in Govt!!!
AnthonyUK wrote:You really need to learn to read. At what point did a tell you who to vote for? I'm not trying to change your mind. I can tell that it would be nearly impossible to. I am mearly trying to show you that you are not voting for a sensible, patriotic party, but for a group of uneducated thugs. I'm not sure, but you may feel at home with them?John Bold wrote: I am neither "kissing their backsides" or doing what they want. I am merely highlighting that they are not the problem that the BNP would like you to believe they are. They create far fewer problems the indigenous population do. The indigenous people of this nation are made up of immigrants and although this has been watered down through the years, it makes little difference. Why vote for a political company that has no policies?And who are you to tell me who to vote for and "love your immigrants"? I don't like them full stop and you won't change that. AND I will still vote BNP!
John Bold
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4:59pm Tue 23 Mar 10
Veritas10
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11:05pm Tue 23 Mar 10
John Bold
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AnthonyUK
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10:40am Wed 24 Mar 10
John Bold wrote:You come on dogooder! I'll vote BNP ALWAYS never listening to you! At least the BNP will get rid of illegals and rid the UK of terrorists ignoring HRA legislation to deport them!
Ken - i am not asking for a sensible, patriotic party. In fact i am far from patriotic in any way. I care very little for this horrible country, and deem it of little importance where you are born. It is a fact that i was born in this country. That i should be proud of it is a moot point - because i'm not. As for Anthony's claims that the BNP will "get it sorted unlike the mainstream misfits" - well that is completely laughable. Come on. THEY HAVE NO POLITICAL POLICIES. They are the modern equivelant of the 1930s/1940s Nazi Party. They are racists with no aim other than to purge the country of any one other than the white. You people are just scared of what is different, and unable to see the fact that there is little to be proud of in this country. If you really believe that the BNP will "get it sorted" then you have another thing coming.
Ken Shuffles
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11:45am Wed 24 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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11:55am Wed 24 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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12:05pm Wed 24 Mar 10
John Bold
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1:28pm Wed 24 Mar 10
AnthonyUK wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
John Bold wrote: Ken - i am not asking for a sensible, patriotic party. In fact i am far from patriotic in any way. I care very little for this horrible country, and deem it of little importance where you are born. It is a fact that i was born in this country. That i should be proud of it is a moot point - because i'm not. As for Anthony's claims that the BNP will "get it sorted unlike the mainstream misfits" - well that is completely laughable. Come on. THEY HAVE NO POLITICAL POLICIES. They are the modern equivelant of the 1930s/1940s Nazi Party. They are racists with no aim other than to purge the country of any one other than the white. You people are just scared of what is different, and unable to see the fact that there is little to be proud of in this country. If you really believe that the BNP will "get it sorted" then you have another thing coming.You come on dogooder! I'll vote BNP ALWAYS never listening to you! At least the BNP will get rid of illegals and rid the UK of terrorists ignoring HRA legislation to deport them!
Veritas10
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1:52pm Wed 24 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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2:38pm Wed 24 Mar 10
Ken Shuffles
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2:43pm Wed 24 Mar 10
Lancs - pensioner
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6:08pm Wed 24 Mar 10
John Bold wrote:Having read both your "debates" my conclusion would be the BNP gets a few MPs in the next election, not enough to hold power though, and then and only then will the main partys start to worry and listen to both sides of your coins!! reading both your columns you seem to be both as far apart as each other on how this country is being run.
AnthonyUK wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ! Yes, they really will get round HRA legislation. Very likely. They will incite civil war if they try. And as for getting rid of terrorists? Fool. They will increase the threat of terrorism ten fold. If they came to power, this nation would soon become known as an anti-islamic nation, and be a swift target for any terrorists. You really are niave, and quite dim.John Bold wrote: Ken - i am not asking for a sensible, patriotic party. In fact i am far from patriotic in any way. I care very little for this horrible country, and deem it of little importance where you are born. It is a fact that i was born in this country. That i should be proud of it is a moot point - because i'm not. As for Anthony's claims that the BNP will "get it sorted unlike the mainstream misfits" - well that is completely laughable. Come on. THEY HAVE NO POLITICAL POLICIES. They are the modern equivelant of the 1930s/1940s Nazi Party. They are racists with no aim other than to purge the country of any one other than the white. You people are just scared of what is different, and unable to see the fact that there is little to be proud of in this country. If you really believe that the BNP will "get it sorted" then you have another thing coming.You come on dogooder! I'll vote BNP ALWAYS never listening to you! At least the BNP will get rid of illegals and rid the UK of terrorists ignoring HRA legislation to deport them!
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AnthonyUK says...
7:23am Fri 19 Mar 10
(a)this country has been turned upside down by immigrants asylumseekers and refugees, because when they come here our govt under humanrights legislation and obligation gives it all to them on a plate
and (b) we can't refuse because we are bound by that legislation and obligations,
and(c) also they bring their ways of life and try to impose that on UK citizens, also they ghettoise parts of the county by refusing to speak English and refusing to integrate into UK society as well. If we went to live in their countries they wouldn't fit their way of life around us to suit our needs so why should WE do it for them?