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Fluoride in water moves ever closer

9:42am Tuesday 13th February 2007

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BOLTON has moved a step closer to having fluoride added to its water supply.

Health bosses are preparing to sign up to become members of the North-west Fluoridation Evaluation Group.

The body will decide whether to launch a public consultation into plans to fluoridate Bolton's water.

Jan Hutchinson, director of public health for Bolton's Primary CareTrust, said: "This is all part of the process. We won't be debating the rights and wrongs of fluoridation, but what would the costs be and what changes would be needed to water treatment plants.

"We're keen for a decision to be made because we'd like a public consultation and to resolve this issue."

PCT chiefs, who are responsible for NHS dental provision in Bolton, have said they would support the addition of fluoride into water in a bid to improve the poor state of children's teeth.

The majority of dentists are also pro-fluoride because youngsters have some of the worst dental problems in the country.

Children in Bolton's poorest areas have at least four teeth missing or rotting, according to a study carried out in 98 primary schools betwen January and July last year.

Five-year-olds in the former Central ward, which includes areas such as Hall i' th' Wood, have 4.2 teeth damaged by decay.

Even in the best-performing ward, Bromley Cross, the average five-year-old has 1.08 missing teeth, fillings or tooth decay, which is above the Government target of one per child.

Chris Brooks, leading NHS dentist and member of the Bolton Dental Society, said: "We're sure, from the evidence in the West Midlands and other areas that have added fluoride, that there would be a significant reduction in tooth decay among children.

"We would support any move to promote its use in Bolton."

But Bolton North-east MP David Crausby is against the proposals and is calling for a referendum of the issue.

He said: "I'm only interested in a real consultation and that needs to be a referendum, where everyone is asked rather than a select group of people.

"I'm concerned about the principle that the public has the right to decide what they consume and regardless of whether fluoride is good for you, it's clearly mass medication and shouldn't be forced on people."


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nyscof, USA says...
11:23am Tue 13 Feb 07

Fluoridation has failed the U.S. where 2/3 drink fluoridated water and tooth decay is rampant
See http://www.fluoridenews.blogspot.com

H20, says...
12:43pm Tue 13 Feb 07

What about my rights! I don’t want your poison in my water!!! My family know how to clean there teeth twice a day!! They all have perfect teeth because of this. SO Get the thick buggers who don’t bother to teach there kids properly how to clean there teeth sorted out!! Without putting this **** in our water. This is not right water should be pure!!!!

George Glasser, says...
8:51am Wed 14 Feb 07

We won't be debating the rights and wrongs of fluoridation, but what would the costs be and what changes would be needed to water treatment plants.


The main thing to remember is that the a basically already bankrupt NHS Trust has to pay for it. And the cost will be about £2M to upgrade one water treatment facility, then there are on-going cost for maintenance and fluoridation chemicals which could be up to another £1M per year.

Where are they going to get the money from? If the fluoridation disciples get their way, it means that the
Health Bosses
are going to be forced to cut some essential services and availability of life-saving drugs.

Why don't the
Health Bosses
tell the dental directors to get off their bums and start educating people about dental health.

At any rate, what does a NHS dental director actually do to earn his keep? About the only time they ever appear in public is to pitch fluoridation.

Possibly, responsible "Health Bosses" should tell the dental directors should get on the television and start pitching dental hygine and cutting out the sweeties. They could get air-time for free; all it means is that the dental directors and their staff would have to do a little work for their saleries.

Derek Watson, London says...
10:44am Wed 14 Feb 07

Chlorine is added to the water to stop disease. Dental decay is a disease, so why not add fluoride to the water to cut dental decay in half? We know it is safe because it occurs naturally in water in other areas. Or do you all like having your teeth drilled and extracted?

David Crausby should be ashamed of himself for standing in the way of this public health measure for his constituents. The NHS has a £3 billion (plus) bill each year for dentistry. That's THREE BILLION POUNDS, not a few million.

Dentists and Primary Care Trusts have public health and safety at the top of their priorities. Some of the comments so far are just idiotic.

BRIAN JACKSON, COLNE, LANCASHIRE says...
4:41pm Wed 14 Feb 07

Fluoride is a very dangerous, carcinogenic, corrosive and expensive poison. The idea of fluoridation came from bad science 70 years ago but the newest research indicates that aside from the above it does not even protect teeth. We need good diet, good dental hygiene and more dentists, not toxic waste in our water. Join Friends of the Earth, The National Pure Water Association, The Soil Association and local groups across the UK fighting to stop this menace. Say No To Fluoride. For More info call Brian Jackson at Friends of the Earth on 01282-860985

BRIAN JACKSON, COLNE, LANCASHIRE says...
4:44pm Wed 14 Feb 07

Fluoride is a very dangerous, carcinogenic, corrosive and expensive poison. The idea of fluoridation came from bad science 70 years ago but the newest research indicates that aside from the above it does not even protect teeth. We need good diet, good dental hygiene and more dentists, not toxic waste in our water. Join Friends of the Earth, The National Pure Water Association, The Soil Association and local groups across the UK fighting to stop this menace. Say No To Fluoride. For More info call Brian Jackson at Friends of the Earth on 01282-860985

Richard Alderson, Sale says...
10:58pm Sat 17 Feb 07

Derek Watson, (London on 10:44am Wed 14 Feb 07) says “why not add fluoride to the water to cut dental decay in half? We know it is safe because it occurs naturally in water in other areas”.
It will be added by a man made process so it will not be as safe as a natural process! It is OTT and a hazard to add so much fluoride into water for all water related uses. There is an alternative – dental hygiene and if required toothpaste with fluoride.
The main objection is that Jan Hutchinson, director of public health for Bolton's Primary Care Trust, said: "This is all part of the process. We won't be debating the rights and wrongs of fluoridation, but what would the costs be and what changes would be needed to water treatment plants”. What the majority of people object to is that the rights and wrongs will not be debated! This is a health issue – mass medication without any consultation as to the rights or wrongs, whether that is legal, healthy and safe. They (Bolton's Primary Care Trust) will not debate these rights and wrongs because they know they are wrong and will lose the debate. Already the public are not convinced; a reader poll by the Bolton News shows that 93.5% say No to the question: Should we add fluoride to Bolton's water?

Chlorine is added to water to counteract the impurities and nasties that the water encounters on its journey – it evaporates easily when discharged from the tap. Fluoride on the other hand accumulates in the body.

Derek Watson says that “the NHS has a £3 billion (plus) bill each year for dentistry”: This money will be spent whether the water is fluoridated or not. Why not spend the time educating the public at little cost to the public. It is stated in the Bolton News that:
‘Five-year-olds in the former Central ward, which includes areas such as Hall i' th' Wood, have 4.2 teeth damaged by decay; whereas in Bromley Cross, the average five-year-old has 1.08 missing teeth, fillings or tooth decay’;
This shows that the life style of parents and their children has far more influence than any medication.
Mr Watson says “Some of the comments so far are just idiotic.”
If they are so idiotic then they can be exposed as such in a proper and comprehensive debate.

If a food manufacturer added this substance to its product, I suspect it would be breaking the law.
Fluoridation will indirectly benefit the purveyors of bottled water and their shareholders, vastly increasing profits.
Could this be the real motive behind fluoridation?

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