All change: Bolton train station to get fifth platform back

All change: Bolton train station to get fifth platform back

Bolton train station

An artist's impression of the new transport interchange

The proposed site of the new fifth platform at Bolton train station

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A FIFTH platform is set to return to Bolton train station - paving the way for a revival of Scottish services.

The new platform will mean more trains running through the town and would also increase the chances of Manchester to Scotland services returning through the station.

Keith Davies, head of development and regeneration at Bolton Council, revealed the plans as he gave an update to councillors on the progress of the £48 million Bolton Interchange project.

He said: “One of the issues that emerged over the last eight to nine months is of platform five.

“When discussing the possibility of a fifth platform, it was recognised that it could have implications into the design of the Bolton Interchange.

“We have spent quite a bit of time with Network Rail to resolve any potential issues, and platform five will now be undertaken. It’s good news for Bolton.”

The final proposal is dependent on the council and Network Rail receiving the relevant funding.

Bolton train station had a fifth platform until the early 1990s, before the track was concreted over to form a passenger car park.

When completed the new interchange will replace the existing bus station in Moor Lane and connect with the train station via a “sky link” bridge in Newport Street.

A Network Rail spokesman said: “We are assessing the possibility of reinstating platform five at Bolton station as part of plans to deliver a better railway services across the north of England.

“We are at an early stage and any proposal would require a thorough funding review process before being put forward for recommendation.”

The council and Network Rail are now in the early stages of applying for funding.

Cllr Andrew Fender, chairman of the Transport for Greater Manchester committee, said another platform at Bolton train station would complement the investment going into the region.

He said: “We welcome the possibility of reinstating platform five at Bolton and all the benefits it could bring to the town and passengers — benefits that would complement and build on the improvements already committed to through the Northern Hub programme.

“We will be working closely with Network Rail to make the strongest case possible for a proposal to be funded and, in turn, recommended for approval.”

In December, services running from Manchester to Edinburgh and Glasgow were re-directed through Wigan, meaning Bolton commuters lost a train an hour from the station.

The decision sparked The Bolton News’ Let’s Get Back On Track campaign, which led to Prime Minister David Cameron promising an extra 200 seats on morning rush-hour trains.

The line between Manchester and Preston is currently being electrified as part of a £400 million investment in the North West, and the Bolton to Wigan line will be electrified by 2017.

Bolton’s original main station building, which was on the opposite side of Trinity Street, was demolished in the 1980s. However, the Victorian buildings survive on the platforms. The original clock tower was dismantled and rebuilt next to the current station.

David Crausby, MP for Bolton North East, said: “It’s a good start and hopefully things will get better.

“A fifth platform is all very well but what we really need is more trains.

“This platform will give us the opportunity to get more trains, so I’m optimistic but we have got a considerable way to go to improve services in Bolton.

“The road connections to Manchester are bad too and people have been driven off the trains on to the roads.

“So if we can get an improvement to rail services then maybe that will have a positive impact on the roads.”

Preva Crossley, Bolton’s representative for the Greater Manchester Train Campaign, said he would welcome the fifth platform.

He added: “Anything that makes things easier for people travelling between Bolton and Manchester has got to be a good thing.

“That is the main route that we need help with. People making that journey have had a tough time recently so I am all for an extra platform.”

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8:09am Thu 4 Sep 14

Ernagy2 says...

Good news.

We still need a metro link connection running through great lever connecting trams through the Royal Hospital, Eccles and Salford Quays.

Then we would have a public transport system
Good news. We still need a metro link connection running through great lever connecting trams through the Royal Hospital, Eccles and Salford Quays. Then we would have a public transport system Ernagy2
  • Score: 0

8:14am Thu 4 Sep 14

Lee3695 says...

A positive step forward for Trinity Street Station, however if Platform 5 is reinstated, network Rail should also consider how comuter parking will be provided. There are no Public car parks in the immediate vicinity of the station, available for commuters. Having a bus interchange is good but not suitable for everyone as a lot of commuters are now using Bolton Station between 06:00 and 07:00, before a lot of bus services reach Bolton.
A positive step forward for Trinity Street Station, however if Platform 5 is reinstated, network Rail should also consider how comuter parking will be provided. There are no Public car parks in the immediate vicinity of the station, available for commuters. Having a bus interchange is good but not suitable for everyone as a lot of commuters are now using Bolton Station between 06:00 and 07:00, before a lot of bus services reach Bolton. Lee3695
  • Score: 27

8:18am Thu 4 Sep 14

Lee3695 says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
Good news. We still need a metro link connection running through great lever connecting trams through the Royal Hospital, Eccles and Salford Quays. Then we would have a public transport system
Not sure a Metrolink service between Bolton and Salford Quays would be viable, but the former rail route to Bury from the new interchange is begging to be made into a Metrolink.
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: Good news. We still need a metro link connection running through great lever connecting trams through the Royal Hospital, Eccles and Salford Quays. Then we would have a public transport system[/p][/quote]Not sure a Metrolink service between Bolton and Salford Quays would be viable, but the former rail route to Bury from the new interchange is begging to be made into a Metrolink. Lee3695
  • Score: 20

8:20am Thu 4 Sep 14

Rocket_Scientist says...

But you still cannot get to Manchester in a civilised way any weekday morning, pitiful amount of carriage/seat provision, dirty trains, rammed in like sardines in a very unsafe manner.
But you still cannot get to Manchester in a civilised way any weekday morning, pitiful amount of carriage/seat provision, dirty trains, rammed in like sardines in a very unsafe manner. Rocket_Scientist
  • Score: 38

8:43am Thu 4 Sep 14

nigella farrage says...

This is not news as not only did I advise the BN team about this in January and February but I have also had letters printed, in the paper, advising of the fact!!!!!!

Also what the BN has NOT advised is that the 5th platform will mean the closure of the customer car park and Bolton Station (or as it will be known Bolton Interchange when the new bus station opens) will be the only major station in Greater Manchester without a customer car park - so how do they expect people to get to the station. Smaller bus station means less buses, no parking spaces etc etc etc all means that there will be more cars on the roads because it is the ONLY alternative, in Bolton!!!!

So much for Nick Peel's ideology of reducing car traffic in the borough!!!!
This is not news as not only did I advise the BN team about this in January and February but I have also had letters printed, in the paper, advising of the fact!!!!!! Also what the BN has NOT advised is that the 5th platform will mean the closure of the customer car park and Bolton Station (or as it will be known Bolton Interchange when the new bus station opens) will be the only major station in Greater Manchester without a customer car park - so how do they expect people to get to the station. Smaller bus station means less buses, no parking spaces etc etc etc all means that there will be more cars on the roads because it is the ONLY alternative, in Bolton!!!! So much for Nick Peel's ideology of reducing car traffic in the borough!!!! nigella farrage
  • Score: 0

8:54am Thu 4 Sep 14

nigella farrage says...

As for Platform 5 itself.

Was a public platform until mid-late 70's then it became a dedicated platform for goods and parcels for Red Star Delivery service that was based at Bolton Station. When they closed Red Star it became a derelict piece of land of over a decade until Northern Rail took over the management of the station and turned it into a public car-park, which it has been for less than a decade.

Not hard to find out the history of it, so how come the BN didn't know?


As for Scottish services that is for the DfT to decide and I believe there is not much hope for a return, unless there is a huge change in their running of the nations railway network!
As for Platform 5 itself. Was a public platform until mid-late 70's then it became a dedicated platform for goods and parcels for Red Star Delivery service that was based at Bolton Station. When they closed Red Star it became a derelict piece of land of over a decade until Northern Rail took over the management of the station and turned it into a public car-park, which it has been for less than a decade. Not hard to find out the history of it, so how come the BN didn't know? As for Scottish services that is for the DfT to decide and I believe there is not much hope for a return, unless there is a huge change in their running of the nations railway network! nigella farrage
  • Score: 0

9:47am Thu 4 Sep 14

Lee3695 says...

Rocket_Scientist wrote:
But you still cannot get to Manchester in a civilised way any weekday morning, pitiful amount of carriage/seat provision, dirty trains, rammed in like sardines in a very unsafe manner.
But when you travel you are paying to travel not for a seat unless you reserve one, a service Northern trains don't provide on commuter services. The age and size of rolling stock is down to the operating franchise, which requitres Northern to 'maintain level of service', meaning do not provide additional trains/vehicles. However Northern have managed to lease additional vehicles, though not enough to meet peak demand. Northern can not 'add another carriage' because it (along with all other operating companies' do not own any of the rolling stock. That is owned by Rolling Stock Operating Companies who lease trains to the operating companies. How many trains a TOC gets depends on how many they can afford to lease and how many their franchise lets them lease. All of that is set by the DfT - based in London, who use calculations to determine the economic benefit of buying more rolling stock and the number of seats it contains, which heavily biase London and the Southeast. That is why 2-car trains are the norm u[p here and 8-12 car commuter trains are the norm in London. It is also why we will eventually wind up with 26-year old electric rolling stock transfered from the Thameslink franchise, rather than brand new commuter trains, once electrification of the lines in the North west is completed. Sorry for the liong-winded reply but this is a complex issue.
[quote][p][bold]Rocket_Scientist[/bold] wrote: But you still cannot get to Manchester in a civilised way any weekday morning, pitiful amount of carriage/seat provision, dirty trains, rammed in like sardines in a very unsafe manner.[/p][/quote]But when you travel you are paying to travel not for a seat unless you reserve one, a service Northern trains don't provide on commuter services. The age and size of rolling stock is down to the operating franchise, which requitres Northern to 'maintain level of service', meaning do not provide additional trains/vehicles. However Northern have managed to lease additional vehicles, though not enough to meet peak demand. Northern can not 'add another carriage' because it (along with all other operating companies' do not own any of the rolling stock. That is owned by Rolling Stock Operating Companies who lease trains to the operating companies. How many trains a TOC gets depends on how many they can afford to lease and how many their franchise lets them lease. All of that is set by the DfT - based in London, who use calculations to determine the economic benefit of buying more rolling stock and the number of seats it contains, which heavily biase London and the Southeast. That is why 2-car trains are the norm u[p here and 8-12 car commuter trains are the norm in London. It is also why we will eventually wind up with 26-year old electric rolling stock transfered from the Thameslink franchise, rather than brand new commuter trains, once electrification of the lines in the North west is completed. Sorry for the liong-winded reply but this is a complex issue. Lee3695
  • Score: 17

10:08am Thu 4 Sep 14

MarkAllRead says...

Removing the car park is an utter disaster and the most bizarre decision ever. They should be creating a little multi storey there instead.
Removing the car park is an utter disaster and the most bizarre decision ever. They should be creating a little multi storey there instead. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 11

10:21am Thu 4 Sep 14

LoveBolton says...

I was hoping for a platform 9 3/4. LOL.
I was hoping for a platform 9 3/4. LOL. LoveBolton
  • Score: 18

10:38am Thu 4 Sep 14

Oldmanofthemountains says...

Lee3695 wrote:
Rocket_Scientist wrote:
But you still cannot get to Manchester in a civilised way any weekday morning, pitiful amount of carriage/seat provision, dirty trains, rammed in like sardines in a very unsafe manner.
But when you travel you are paying to travel not for a seat unless you reserve one, a service Northern trains don't provide on commuter services. The age and size of rolling stock is down to the operating franchise, which requitres Northern to 'maintain level of service', meaning do not provide additional trains/vehicles. However Northern have managed to lease additional vehicles, though not enough to meet peak demand. Northern can not 'add another carriage' because it (along with all other operating companies' do not own any of the rolling stock. That is owned by Rolling Stock Operating Companies who lease trains to the operating companies. How many trains a TOC gets depends on how many they can afford to lease and how many their franchise lets them lease. All of that is set by the DfT - based in London, who use calculations to determine the economic benefit of buying more rolling stock and the number of seats it contains, which heavily biase London and the Southeast. That is why 2-car trains are the norm u
This style of writing, and on this topic, appears to be scarily familiar
[quote][p][bold]Lee3695[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocket_Scientist[/bold] wrote: But you still cannot get to Manchester in a civilised way any weekday morning, pitiful amount of carriage/seat provision, dirty trains, rammed in like sardines in a very unsafe manner.[/p][/quote]But when you travel you are paying to travel not for a seat unless you reserve one, a service Northern trains don't provide on commuter services. The age and size of rolling stock is down to the operating franchise, which requitres Northern to 'maintain level of service', meaning do not provide additional trains/vehicles. However Northern have managed to lease additional vehicles, though not enough to meet peak demand. Northern can not 'add another carriage' because it (along with all other operating companies' do not own any of the rolling stock. That is owned by Rolling Stock Operating Companies who lease trains to the operating companies. How many trains a TOC gets depends on how many they can afford to lease and how many their franchise lets them lease. All of that is set by the DfT - based in London, who use calculations to determine the economic benefit of buying more rolling stock and the number of seats it contains, which heavily biase London and the Southeast. That is why 2-car trains are the norm u[p here and 8-12 car commuter trains are the norm in London. It is also why we will eventually wind up with 26-year old electric rolling stock transfered from the Thameslink franchise, rather than brand new commuter trains, once electrification of the lines in the North west is completed. Sorry for the liong-winded reply but this is a complex issue.[/p][/quote]This style of writing, and on this topic, appears to be scarily familiar Oldmanofthemountains
  • Score: -8

11:00am Thu 4 Sep 14

stereo_world says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
Good news.

We still need a metro link connection running through great lever connecting trams through the Royal Hospital, Eccles and Salford Quays.

Then we would have a public transport system
Don't know why you got voted down for that, but I wholeheartedly agree. Metrolink would be extremely beneficial for Bolton. Simply put, they should be looking into converting the Walkden/Worsley line.
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: Good news. We still need a metro link connection running through great lever connecting trams through the Royal Hospital, Eccles and Salford Quays. Then we would have a public transport system[/p][/quote]Don't know why you got voted down for that, but I wholeheartedly agree. Metrolink would be extremely beneficial for Bolton. Simply put, they should be looking into converting the Walkden/Worsley line. stereo_world
  • Score: 15

12:23pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Terry McC says...

platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts
platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts Terry McC
  • Score: -7

12:28pm Thu 4 Sep 14

655321 says...

Terry McC wrote:
platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts
Platform 2 is a bay platform at the end of Platform 1.
[quote][p][bold]Terry McC[/bold] wrote: platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts[/p][/quote]Platform 2 is a bay platform at the end of Platform 1. 655321
  • Score: 7

12:35pm Thu 4 Sep 14

655321 says...

655321 wrote:
Terry McC wrote:
platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts
Platform 2 is a bay platform at the end of Platform 1.
In fact you can see it to the right of the picture, where the track curves round to some buffer stops.
[quote][p][bold]655321[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Terry McC[/bold] wrote: platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts[/p][/quote]Platform 2 is a bay platform at the end of Platform 1.[/p][/quote]In fact you can see it to the right of the picture, where the track curves round to some buffer stops. 655321
  • Score: 4

12:38pm Thu 4 Sep 14

itsnotthatbad says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
Removing the car park is an utter disaster and the most bizarre decision ever. They should be creating a little multi storey there instead.
It is daft yeah. but a multi storey wont be viable there, due to neighbouring business' perhaps this may turn into a plan for the recently arson damaged cattle market??... as to build a 6 storey there is daft...
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: Removing the car park is an utter disaster and the most bizarre decision ever. They should be creating a little multi storey there instead.[/p][/quote]It is daft yeah. but a multi storey wont be viable there, due to neighbouring business' perhaps this may turn into a plan for the recently arson damaged cattle market??... as to build a 6 storey there is daft... itsnotthatbad
  • Score: -4

12:56pm Thu 4 Sep 14

cliff4treasurer says...

Do what I did, get a car and stuff the trains.
Do what I did, get a car and stuff the trains. cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Lee3695 says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
Removing the car park is an utter disaster and the most bizarre decision ever. They should be creating a little multi storey there instead.
Maybe they will, we don't know the full plans yet.
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: Removing the car park is an utter disaster and the most bizarre decision ever. They should be creating a little multi storey there instead.[/p][/quote]Maybe they will, we don't know the full plans yet. Lee3695
  • Score: 0

1:01pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Lee3695 says...

Oldmanofthemountains wrote:
Lee3695 wrote:
Rocket_Scientist wrote: But you still cannot get to Manchester in a civilised way any weekday morning, pitiful amount of carriage/seat provision, dirty trains, rammed in like sardines in a very unsafe manner.
But when you travel you are paying to travel not for a seat unless you reserve one, a service Northern trains don't provide on commuter services. The age and size of rolling stock is down to the operating franchise, which requitres Northern to 'maintain level of service', meaning do not provide additional trains/vehicles. However Northern have managed to lease additional vehicles, though not enough to meet peak demand. Northern can not 'add another carriage' because it (along with all other operating companies' do not own any of the rolling stock. That is owned by Rolling Stock Operating Companies who lease trains to the operating companies. How many trains a TOC gets depends on how many they can afford to lease and how many their franchise lets them lease. All of that is set by the DfT - based in London, who use calculations to determine the economic benefit of buying more rolling stock and the number of seats it contains, which heavily biase London and the Southeast. That is why 2-car trains are the norm u
This style of writing, and on this topic, appears to be scarily familiar
Could I ask what you are referring to?
[quote][p][bold]Oldmanofthemountains[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lee3695[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocket_Scientist[/bold] wrote: But you still cannot get to Manchester in a civilised way any weekday morning, pitiful amount of carriage/seat provision, dirty trains, rammed in like sardines in a very unsafe manner.[/p][/quote]But when you travel you are paying to travel not for a seat unless you reserve one, a service Northern trains don't provide on commuter services. The age and size of rolling stock is down to the operating franchise, which requitres Northern to 'maintain level of service', meaning do not provide additional trains/vehicles. However Northern have managed to lease additional vehicles, though not enough to meet peak demand. Northern can not 'add another carriage' because it (along with all other operating companies' do not own any of the rolling stock. That is owned by Rolling Stock Operating Companies who lease trains to the operating companies. How many trains a TOC gets depends on how many they can afford to lease and how many their franchise lets them lease. All of that is set by the DfT - based in London, who use calculations to determine the economic benefit of buying more rolling stock and the number of seats it contains, which heavily biase London and the Southeast. That is why 2-car trains are the norm u[p here and 8-12 car commuter trains are the norm in London. It is also why we will eventually wind up with 26-year old electric rolling stock transfered from the Thameslink franchise, rather than brand new commuter trains, once electrification of the lines in the North west is completed. Sorry for the liong-winded reply but this is a complex issue.[/p][/quote]This style of writing, and on this topic, appears to be scarily familiar[/p][/quote]Could I ask what you are referring to? Lee3695
  • Score: -5

1:03pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Lee3695 says...

stereo_world wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote: Good news. We still need a metro link connection running through great lever connecting trams through the Royal Hospital, Eccles and Salford Quays. Then we would have a public transport system
Don't know why you got voted down for that, but I wholeheartedly agree. Metrolink would be extremely beneficial for Bolton. Simply put, they should be looking into converting the Walkden/Worsley line.
Agreed, Bolton along with Wigan are the only two boroughs in 'Greater Manchester' that don't have any provision for Metrolink. Although the system does not run to Stockport, there is a protected alignment extending into the town centre from the current East Didsbury terminus and I understand a feasibility study to extend the line to Stockport has been considered/is under consideration.
[quote][p][bold]stereo_world[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: Good news. We still need a metro link connection running through great lever connecting trams through the Royal Hospital, Eccles and Salford Quays. Then we would have a public transport system[/p][/quote]Don't know why you got voted down for that, but I wholeheartedly agree. Metrolink would be extremely beneficial for Bolton. Simply put, they should be looking into converting the Walkden/Worsley line.[/p][/quote]Agreed, Bolton along with Wigan are the only two boroughs in 'Greater Manchester' that don't have any provision for Metrolink. Although the system does not run to Stockport, there is a protected alignment extending into the town centre from the current East Didsbury terminus and I understand a feasibility study to extend the line to Stockport has been considered/is under consideration. Lee3695
  • Score: 3

1:05pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Lee3695 says...

Terry McC wrote:
platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts
Platform 2 is the bay platform at the south end of the station situated between Platform 1 and Platform 3
[quote][p][bold]Terry McC[/bold] wrote: platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts[/p][/quote]Platform 2 is the bay platform at the south end of the station situated between Platform 1 and Platform 3 Lee3695
  • Score: 0

1:28pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Oldmanofthemountains says...

Lee3695: "Could I ask what you are referring to?"

Why, isn't the meaning of my statement clear?
Lee3695: "Could I ask what you are referring to?" Why, isn't the meaning of my statement clear? Oldmanofthemountains
  • Score: -9

2:48pm Thu 4 Sep 14

timetraveler says...

Its don't work in just causes more problems for the town. Bolton should have invested in the metro link lets just say that would have been a lot easier it would have brought more revenue to the town. It worked for bury and Oldham Please don't let the old bury to Bolton route get built on any more please try to reopen it before 2026 it will be worth it
Its don't work in just causes more problems for the town. Bolton should have invested in the metro link lets just say that would have been a lot easier it would have brought more revenue to the town. It worked for bury and Oldham Please don't let the old bury to Bolton route get built on any more please try to reopen it before 2026 it will be worth it timetraveler
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Reality50 says...

Platform 2 is there,but only in name,as virtually no trains ever use it. As for Manchester,there would be no need to have full sardine carriages there if Bolton provided jobs for the local populace,as happened from the beginning of time until the last 20 years. It is the failure of Bolton as a town,that has forced people to find work in Manchester. Sadly,Bolton is increasingly seen as a dormitory town for Manchester,which for a town of 270,000 is a depressing scandal.
Platform 2 is there,but only in name,as virtually no trains ever use it. As for Manchester,there would be no need to have full sardine carriages there if Bolton provided jobs for the local populace,as happened from the beginning of time until the last 20 years. It is the failure of Bolton as a town,that has forced people to find work in Manchester. Sadly,Bolton is increasingly seen as a dormitory town for Manchester,which for a town of 270,000 is a depressing scandal. Reality50
  • Score: 0

3:00pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Reality50 says...

I for one don't want Metrolink. The ticket prices are expensive and it would,again be another step in trying to make Bolton a suburb of Manchester. We need more investment in the train network,and Metrolink can stay in Manchester where it belongs.
I for one don't want Metrolink. The ticket prices are expensive and it would,again be another step in trying to make Bolton a suburb of Manchester. We need more investment in the train network,and Metrolink can stay in Manchester where it belongs. Reality50
  • Score: -1

3:03pm Thu 4 Sep 14

xshark says...

Lee3695 wrote:
Terry McC wrote: platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts
Platform 2 is the bay platform at the south end of the station situated between Platform 1 and Platform 3
Indeed - and, it has seen more use in recent weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Lee3695[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Terry McC[/bold] wrote: platform two dose not exist so will only have four maybe thats the way to hogwarts[/p][/quote]Platform 2 is the bay platform at the south end of the station situated between Platform 1 and Platform 3[/p][/quote]Indeed - and, it has seen more use in recent weeks. xshark
  • Score: -1

3:06pm Thu 4 Sep 14

xshark says...

I also would be disappointed if the car park were to disappear. I don't use Bolton Station every day but when I do the ability to park is once of the main reasons.
I also would be disappointed if the car park were to disappear. I don't use Bolton Station every day but when I do the ability to park is once of the main reasons. xshark
  • Score: 2

3:06pm Thu 4 Sep 14

John Edwards says...

The trains need more carriages, majority only have two and people are piled in like sardines. But then again, I thought the railways were privatized, shouldn't the train companies be paying for this and not the tax payer who once again has not got a choice?
The trains need more carriages, majority only have two and people are piled in like sardines. But then again, I thought the railways were privatized, shouldn't the train companies be paying for this and not the tax payer who once again has not got a choice? John Edwards
  • Score: 5

5:17pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Frogger123 says...

The car park is disappearing then. This is very inconvenient for commuters, I for one do not want to be walking across Bolton town centre at 6.30am for a 7am train. What are Network Rail / Bolton Councils comments on provision for parking for commuters?
The car park is disappearing then. This is very inconvenient for commuters, I for one do not want to be walking across Bolton town centre at 6.30am for a 7am train. What are Network Rail / Bolton Councils comments on provision for parking for commuters? Frogger123
  • Score: 3

6:55pm Thu 4 Sep 14

timetraveler says...

The metro link would be better it would make a big difference to the town more businesses more jobs more revenue i know Bolton does have a good train and bus routes but Bolton need to change with the times Bolton still looks like it stuck in the 90s please Bolton council invest money into this town or it will become a ghost town.
The metro link would be better it would make a big difference to the town more businesses more jobs more revenue i know Bolton does have a good train and bus routes but Bolton need to change with the times Bolton still looks like it stuck in the 90s please Bolton council invest money into this town or it will become a ghost town. timetraveler
  • Score: 2

7:14pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Beyond News Forum says...

cliff4treasurer wrote:
Do what I did, get a car and stuff the trains.
Actually for once I agree with you... the price of ticketing is getting silly. A years travel has caught up on running a greener LPG car.
[quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: Do what I did, get a car and stuff the trains.[/p][/quote]Actually for once I agree with you... the price of ticketing is getting silly. A years travel has caught up on running a greener LPG car. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 1

7:45pm Thu 4 Sep 14

johnnykilroy4 says...

timetraveler wrote:
The metro link would be better it would make a big difference to the town more businesses more jobs more revenue i know Bolton does have a good train and bus routes but Bolton need to change with the times Bolton still looks like it stuck in the 90s please Bolton council invest money into this town or it will become a ghost town.
You right. Bolton does look like it's stuck in the 90s i would have said the 70s but your not far off yes the town does need to improve a metro link would be good i live in the Darcy lever area of bolton near the old train bridge and route I've always said it would make a good metro link route i think the railway still owns that route it's a shame how they has been left over the years they fixed the bridges in the late 90s because is was falling down wasting thousands of pounds on it. It was supposed to be a cycle route but nobody uses it. i just hope in the future it's used for something useful.
[quote][p][bold]timetraveler[/bold] wrote: The metro link would be better it would make a big difference to the town more businesses more jobs more revenue i know Bolton does have a good train and bus routes but Bolton need to change with the times Bolton still looks like it stuck in the 90s please Bolton council invest money into this town or it will become a ghost town.[/p][/quote]You right. Bolton does look like it's stuck in the 90s i would have said the 70s but your not far off yes the town does need to improve a metro link would be good i live in the Darcy lever area of bolton near the old train bridge and route I've always said it would make a good metro link route i think the railway still owns that route it's a shame how they has been left over the years they fixed the bridges in the late 90s because is was falling down wasting thousands of pounds on it. It was supposed to be a cycle route but nobody uses it. i just hope in the future it's used for something useful. johnnykilroy4
  • Score: 2

7:55pm Thu 4 Sep 14

johnnykilroy4 says...

Why do we need a new platform for a fooking train the town is supposed to be having a new interchange a state of the art interchange we need something new like the metro link tram system get with the times it's nearly 2015 not the 1970s come on Bolton get with it!
Why do we need a new platform for a fooking train the town is supposed to be having a new interchange a state of the art interchange we need something new like the metro link tram system get with the times it's nearly 2015 not the 1970s come on Bolton get with it! johnnykilroy4
  • Score: -1

8:32pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Its not a joke says...

What an interesting read, and once again I believe a complete waste of money. There a currently 4 platforms with 3 being used most of the time. Platform 5.. This will filter into the line for trains leaving from platform 4. Only one train can leave the station in the same direction at a time. Even if they were ever to re introduce the trains to Scotland, the most there would be are two an hour in each direction.
A couple of year ago apparently over 4 million was spent on Bolton train station, not sure what it was spent on as when it rains there is a waterfall down the stairs you cant sit on the seats as rain comes through the platform roofs. So don't give northern rail more money for Bolton station as they cant be trusted to spend is wisely.
Money needs to be spent on making longer platforms at the local stations, as apparently that is why we cant have more carriages on the trains.
They keep on about the HS2, and the journey times from Manchester to London will be cut by several minutes, at a cost of billions. Get the infrastructure right to get to Manchester to enable people on the Bolton side of Manchester to get to work in Manchester never mind London. This will be achieved by putting more carriages on the trains and not by having a new platform.
London need to come and experience our every day train issues and see where the money really needs to be spent!!
What an interesting read, and once again I believe a complete waste of money. There a currently 4 platforms with 3 being used most of the time. Platform 5.. This will filter into the line for trains leaving from platform 4. Only one train can leave the station in the same direction at a time. Even if they were ever to re introduce the trains to Scotland, the most there would be are two an hour in each direction. A couple of year ago apparently over 4 million was spent on Bolton train station, not sure what it was spent on as when it rains there is a waterfall down the stairs you cant sit on the seats as rain comes through the platform roofs. So don't give northern rail more money for Bolton station as they cant be trusted to spend is wisely. Money needs to be spent on making longer platforms at the local stations, as apparently that is why we cant have more carriages on the trains. They keep on about the HS2, and the journey times from Manchester to London will be cut by several minutes, at a cost of billions. Get the infrastructure right to get to Manchester to enable people on the Bolton side of Manchester to get to work in Manchester never mind London. This will be achieved by putting more carriages on the trains and not by having a new platform. London need to come and experience our every day train issues and see where the money really needs to be spent!! Its not a joke
  • Score: 4

9:21pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Reality50 says...

Ask the people of Oldham if Metrolink is a good thing? Most absolutely hate it and its expensive ticket prices. Metrolink would cost the Bolton taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds if it was implemented here and for what? The tram would be even slower than the train to Manchester and cost more.. No Thanks!.
The only benefit i could see with regard to Metrolink,would be to rebuild the old track,demolished in the late 1960's between Bolton and Bury and connect it up with the private East Lancs rail link between Rawtenstall and Heywood and then maybe a connection on to Rochdale via Castleton.That would be a half decent idea,but as for Manchester,no.
Ask the people of Oldham if Metrolink is a good thing? Most absolutely hate it and its expensive ticket prices. Metrolink would cost the Bolton taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds if it was implemented here and for what? The tram would be even slower than the train to Manchester and cost more.. No Thanks!. The only benefit i could see with regard to Metrolink,would be to rebuild the old track,demolished in the late 1960's between Bolton and Bury and connect it up with the private East Lancs rail link between Rawtenstall and Heywood and then maybe a connection on to Rochdale via Castleton.That would be a half decent idea,but as for Manchester,no. Reality50
  • Score: 0

9:30pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Reality50 says...

What Bolton train station needs once the interchange is built is 1, Cashpoints,as the nearest is Sainsbury's or Morrisons,which involves crossing busy roads.
2, A proper travel and booking office,as it used to have.
3,A decent cafe and shop,
4,Clean and manned public toilets,
5,A wider choice of advance discount tickets. Go on the web and Manchester Piccadilly,Wigan North Western and Preston have a much wider choice of saver tickets than Bolton. Would you believe,it's cheaper to go from Manchester Picc to Blackpool North than it is from Bolton to Blackpool North,as Manchester Picc does advance saver tickets there.
6,More train destinations,and more trains to Piccadilly and less to Victoria.
7, An ;evening and Sunday service for Farnworth too!. lol
What Bolton train station needs once the interchange is built is 1, Cashpoints,as the nearest is Sainsbury's or Morrisons,which involves crossing busy roads. 2, A proper travel and booking office,as it used to have. 3,A decent cafe and shop, 4,Clean and manned public toilets, 5,A wider choice of advance discount tickets. Go on the web and Manchester Piccadilly,Wigan North Western and Preston have a much wider choice of saver tickets than Bolton. Would you believe,it's cheaper to go from Manchester Picc to Blackpool North than it is from Bolton to Blackpool North,as Manchester Picc does advance saver tickets there. 6,More train destinations,and more trains to Piccadilly and less to Victoria. 7, An ;evening and Sunday service for Farnworth too!. lol Reality50
  • Score: 5

10:55am Fri 5 Sep 14

xshark says...

Reality50 wrote:
What Bolton train station needs once the interchange is built is 1, Cashpoints,as the nearest is Sainsbury's or Morrisons,which involves crossing busy roads. 2, A proper travel and booking office,as it used to have. 3,A decent cafe and shop, 4,Clean and manned public toilets, 5,A wider choice of advance discount tickets. Go on the web and Manchester Piccadilly,Wigan North Western and Preston have a much wider choice of saver tickets than Bolton. Would you believe,it's cheaper to go from Manchester Picc to Blackpool North than it is from Bolton to Blackpool North,as Manchester Picc does advance saver tickets there. 6,More train destinations,and more trains to Piccadilly and less to Victoria. 7, An ;evening and Sunday service for Farnworth too!. lol
You forgot a station bar/pub.

Ticket prices have no logic. Bolton to Derby at peak times is cheaper than Manchester Picc to Derby even though he latter option is a shorther distance and uses the same trains.

In off-peak, it's the other way about. However, if you book seperate tickets from Bolton to Manchester and Manchester to Derby it is cheaper than booking Bolton to Derby !
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: What Bolton train station needs once the interchange is built is 1, Cashpoints,as the nearest is Sainsbury's or Morrisons,which involves crossing busy roads. 2, A proper travel and booking office,as it used to have. 3,A decent cafe and shop, 4,Clean and manned public toilets, 5,A wider choice of advance discount tickets. Go on the web and Manchester Piccadilly,Wigan North Western and Preston have a much wider choice of saver tickets than Bolton. Would you believe,it's cheaper to go from Manchester Picc to Blackpool North than it is from Bolton to Blackpool North,as Manchester Picc does advance saver tickets there. 6,More train destinations,and more trains to Piccadilly and less to Victoria. 7, An ;evening and Sunday service for Farnworth too!. lol[/p][/quote]You forgot a station bar/pub. Ticket prices have no logic. Bolton to Derby at peak times is cheaper than Manchester Picc to Derby even though he latter option is a shorther distance and uses the same trains. In off-peak, it's the other way about. However, if you book seperate tickets from Bolton to Manchester and Manchester to Derby it is cheaper than booking Bolton to Derby ! xshark
  • Score: 0

2:23pm Fri 5 Sep 14

johnnykilroy4 says...

Its will be a waste of money anyway Bolton always promise's but never deliver's end of the day its just hot air coming out of people's arses.
Its will be a waste of money anyway Bolton always promise's but never deliver's end of the day its just hot air coming out of people's arses. johnnykilroy4
  • Score: 0

5:34pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Reality50 says...

A couple off years ago,we were told Bolton train station was to have massive investment and it would cost millions. What did we get? A couple of extended platform canopies to keep you out of the rain,a couple of wooden ticket offices,and a few electronic departure/arrival boards and a cycle rack.
In contrast,we lost the booking and travel office and the entrance shop.
Overall for all those millions,the station is no better and arguably worse.
As for a pub,sounds good but it would attract the drunks and tramps and the York and Sweet Green are nearby anyway.
A couple off years ago,we were told Bolton train station was to have massive investment and it would cost millions. What did we get? A couple of extended platform canopies to keep you out of the rain,a couple of wooden ticket offices,and a few electronic departure/arrival boards and a cycle rack. In contrast,we lost the booking and travel office and the entrance shop. Overall for all those millions,the station is no better and arguably worse. As for a pub,sounds good but it would attract the drunks and tramps and the York and Sweet Green are nearby anyway. Reality50
  • Score: 3

9:51pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Smeagol says...

On a related note, someone told me that the plans for the new bus station have been abandoned as the funding is no longer in place. I haven't seen any official mention if this so it may be wrong. Does anyone have any inside info?
On a related note, someone told me that the plans for the new bus station have been abandoned as the funding is no longer in place. I haven't seen any official mention if this so it may be wrong. Does anyone have any inside info? Smeagol
  • Score: 0

1:35am Sat 6 Sep 14

barry g says...

Smeagol wrote:
On a related note, someone told me that the plans for the new bus station have been abandoned as the funding is no longer in place. I haven't seen any official mention if this so it may be wrong. Does anyone have any inside info?
Apparently the company that won (put in the lowest bid) the contract to build the new interchange have gone bust. That's why all work on the site has come to a complete stand still. Well, well Mr Morris how much did you make from the deal?
[quote][p][bold]Smeagol[/bold] wrote: On a related note, someone told me that the plans for the new bus station have been abandoned as the funding is no longer in place. I haven't seen any official mention if this so it may be wrong. Does anyone have any inside info?[/p][/quote]Apparently the company that won (put in the lowest bid) the contract to build the new interchange have gone bust. That's why all work on the site has come to a complete stand still. Well, well Mr Morris how much did you make from the deal? barry g
  • Score: 2

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