Darwen taxi driver in road safety plea

Barbara Quinn and partner Andy Campbell who saw a man being hit by a car in Duckworth Street, Darwen

Barbara Quinn and partner Andy Campbell who saw a man being hit by a car in Duckworth Street, Darwen

First published in News This Is Lancashire: Photograph of the Author by , Health Reporter

A TAXI driver wants to re-ignite a campaign to install safety barriers along a ‘dangerous’ section of road through Darwen after seeing a pedestrian injured in the same spot where her father suffered fatal injuries while crossing the road.

Three years ago Barbara Quinn spearheaded a bid to get barriers put up outside The Cock pub in Duckworth Street, after her father, Alec Quinn, 69, died in hospital after being hit by a car.

Despite a 600-name petition the request was refused on the grounds that railings would ‘reduce visibility’ around the bend, ‘compromise road safety’ and ‘outweigh any perceived benefits to pedestrians’.

The family gave up their fight, but then on Monday afternoon, Barbara, 42, and her partner Andy Campbell, who both work for Rapid Taxis, witnessed an elderly man being knocked over in the same place. The man in his 70s, suffered minor injuries.

Barbara, said: “We’d just dropped this guy off in Duckworth Street and saw him get knocked over while crossing over to The Cock. I said three years ago that I hoped no one else would get hurt there, and then I went and witnessed it happen.”

Andy, 47, added: “We had all these signatures on the petition to get the railings put up, and about a third of the people said they’d nearly been run over there themselves. We still think it’s really dangerous, especially if someone comes out the pub when they’ve had a few.”

The couple are to contact police, the council and businesses, to try to find a solution to the problem.

A Lancashire Police spokesman, said: “We got a call from the ambulance service at just after 2.30pm to report a collision between a black VW Jetta and a pedestrian on Duckworth Street near the junction with George Street.”

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4:25pm Fri 8 Aug 14

darwenTower says...

Fine people for Jaywalking.

People in Darwen think they have right of way when stepping off pavements. It particularly bothers me when they are dragging their kids into the road, what a cracking example.
Fine people for Jaywalking. People in Darwen think they have right of way when stepping off pavements. It particularly bothers me when they are dragging their kids into the road, what a cracking example. darwenTower
  • Score: 19

4:27pm Fri 8 Aug 14

darwenTower says...

And while we're at it...

Where do Barbara and Andy stop when they are dropping people off? Somewhere safe? Or on double yellows?
And while we're at it... Where do Barbara and Andy stop when they are dropping people off? Somewhere safe? Or on double yellows? darwenTower
  • Score: 29

5:08pm Fri 8 Aug 14

annmarshall says...

what about the traffic turning right out of the road by darwen appliances this is a NO RIGHT TURN this is another accident waiting to happen
what about the traffic turning right out of the road by darwen appliances this is a NO RIGHT TURN this is another accident waiting to happen annmarshall
  • Score: 16

6:01pm Fri 8 Aug 14

HarryBosch says...

darwenTower wrote:
And while we're at it...

Where do Barbara and Andy stop when they are dropping people off? Somewhere safe? Or on double yellows?
It is perfectly legal to drop passengers off on double yellow lines! Whether a taxi or private car.
Pedestrians have responsibilities as well.
[quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: And while we're at it... Where do Barbara and Andy stop when they are dropping people off? Somewhere safe? Or on double yellows?[/p][/quote]It is perfectly legal to drop passengers off on double yellow lines! Whether a taxi or private car. Pedestrians have responsibilities as well. HarryBosch
  • Score: 4

6:06pm Fri 8 Aug 14

darwenTower says...

HarryBosch wrote:
darwenTower wrote:
And while we're at it...

Where do Barbara and Andy stop when they are dropping people off? Somewhere safe? Or on double yellows?
It is perfectly legal to drop passengers off on double yellow lines! Whether a taxi or private car.
Pedestrians have responsibilities as well.
I agree that pedestrians have responsibilities as is obvious from my first post.

Just because it is legal to stop on yellow lines doesn't mean it's obligatory. It would be better to stop somewhere safe than put people at risk for a slight increase in convenience.
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: And while we're at it... Where do Barbara and Andy stop when they are dropping people off? Somewhere safe? Or on double yellows?[/p][/quote]It is perfectly legal to drop passengers off on double yellow lines! Whether a taxi or private car. Pedestrians have responsibilities as well.[/p][/quote]I agree that pedestrians have responsibilities as is obvious from my first post. Just because it is legal to stop on yellow lines doesn't mean it's obligatory. It would be better to stop somewhere safe than put people at risk for a slight increase in convenience. darwenTower
  • Score: 15

6:14pm Fri 8 Aug 14

dresden says...

there is a crossing only a few feet away , why don't these people use that
there is a crossing only a few feet away , why don't these people use that dresden
  • Score: 26

6:43pm Fri 8 Aug 14

spongebob74 says...

dresden wrote:
there is a crossing only a few feet away , why don't these people use that
They don't use the crossing as they are going out of their way. Why walk down the road to walk back on themselves. Easier just to cross where they can then they get a few extra mins in the pub.
[quote][p][bold]dresden[/bold] wrote: there is a crossing only a few feet away , why don't these people use that[/p][/quote]They don't use the crossing as they are going out of their way. Why walk down the road to walk back on themselves. Easier just to cross where they can then they get a few extra mins in the pub. spongebob74
  • Score: 11

8:24pm Fri 8 Aug 14

rudis_dad says...

dresden wrote:
there is a crossing only a few feet away , why don't these people use that
Because that would make sense...
[quote][p][bold]dresden[/bold] wrote: there is a crossing only a few feet away , why don't these people use that[/p][/quote]Because that would make sense... rudis_dad
  • Score: 10

8:32pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Darreners make sense says...

darwenTower wrote:
And while we're at it...

Where do Barbara and Andy stop when they are dropping people off? Somewhere safe? Or on double yellows?
Whilst I don't condone bad parking it clearly states in the Highway Code double yellow lines mean no waiting at any time (taxis included) but you can stop whilst passengers board or alight and you can load or unload unless restrictions apply with yellow stripes on the kerb. Taxis regularly "wait" illegally outside The **** not just boarding or alighting passengers causing significant risk to other road users. The barriers would deter this problem by forcing them to wait further down the road away from the bend.
[quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: And while we're at it... Where do Barbara and Andy stop when they are dropping people off? Somewhere safe? Or on double yellows?[/p][/quote]Whilst I don't condone bad parking it clearly states in the Highway Code double yellow lines mean no waiting at any time (taxis included) but you can stop whilst passengers board or alight and you can load or unload unless restrictions apply with yellow stripes on the kerb. Taxis regularly "wait" illegally outside The **** not just boarding or alighting passengers causing significant risk to other road users. The barriers would deter this problem by forcing them to wait further down the road away from the bend. Darreners make sense
  • Score: 11

9:55pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Bellypork says...

Drop them off at a proper taxi rank or use the bloody crossing in spitting distance. People will do anything to get their photo in the paper.
Drop them off at a proper taxi rank or use the bloody crossing in spitting distance. People will do anything to get their photo in the paper. Bellypork
  • Score: 12

10:04pm Fri 8 Aug 14

bossindian says...

Barbara, said: “We’d just dropped this guy off in Duckworth Street and saw him get knocked over while crossing over to The ****. I said three years ago that I hoped no one else would get hurt there, and then I went and witnessed it happen.”

You knew where he was going yet you dropped him near a dangerous bend that you had personal experience of. I think you are more guilty than the council for this man's injuries...pot...ket
tle...
Barbara, said: “We’d just dropped this guy off in Duckworth Street and saw him get knocked over while crossing over to The ****. I said three years ago that I hoped no one else would get hurt there, and then I went and witnessed it happen.” You knew where he was going yet you dropped him near a dangerous bend that you had personal experience of. I think you are more guilty than the council for this man's injuries...pot...ket tle... bossindian
  • Score: 18

10:07pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Fatpants666 says...

Taxis fly up and down the main road. I've been in ones doing 70mph! They also run red lights regularly. Somehow they seem to be above the law. Some of the worst driving I ever see is by taxi drivers in Darwen and Blackburn.
Taxis fly up and down the main road. I've been in ones doing 70mph! They also run red lights regularly. Somehow they seem to be above the law. Some of the worst driving I ever see is by taxi drivers in Darwen and Blackburn. Fatpants666
  • Score: 21

10:56pm Fri 8 Aug 14

CapitaBackHander says...

No chance should the council spend ANY of my council tax on this! She admits herself - she dropped him off in a dangerous place and watched him get knocked over - so she could start her pointless campaign again. Rapid and the company with appalling drivers near weatherspoons park opposite there or on the bend - sort yourselves out first!
Zebra crossing (risk - with low driving standards!) very close or infact the bend is actually safe if you are not drunk / partially sighted.
Let's face it - if you walk out on to the pavement without looking then one day you will get hurt! Shouldn't be wrapping adults up in cotton wool.
No chance should the council spend ANY of my council tax on this! She admits herself - she dropped him off in a dangerous place and watched him get knocked over - so she could start her pointless campaign again. Rapid and the company with appalling drivers near weatherspoons park opposite there or on the bend - sort yourselves out first! Zebra crossing (risk - with low driving standards!) very close or infact the bend is actually safe if you are not drunk / partially sighted. Let's face it - if you walk out on to the pavement without looking then one day you will get hurt! Shouldn't be wrapping adults up in cotton wool. CapitaBackHander
  • Score: 14

8:01am Sat 9 Aug 14

JayEss says...

Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone.
People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.
Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone. People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal. JayEss
  • Score: -2

8:22am Sat 9 Aug 14

Oldmanofthemountains says...

CBH - "Let's face it - if you walk out on to the pavement without looking then one day you will get hurt!"
Pedestrians walking on the pavement - whatever next? Can't have that, can we?
CBH - "Let's face it - if you walk out on to the pavement without looking then one day you will get hurt!" Pedestrians walking on the pavement - whatever next? Can't have that, can we? Oldmanofthemountains
  • Score: 4

8:28am Sat 9 Aug 14

auntiepax says...

I had to stop quite suddenly for someone strolling across the road, on this bend, a couple of days ago. The car behind me only just stopped in time narrowly avoiding a collision while 'happy alcohol filled chap' swayed towards the **** pub. What is wrong with people?? This was mid afternoon i might add!!
I had to stop quite suddenly for someone strolling across the road, on this bend, a couple of days ago. The car behind me only just stopped in time narrowly avoiding a collision while 'happy alcohol filled chap' swayed towards the **** pub. What is wrong with people?? This was mid afternoon i might add!! auntiepax
  • Score: 9

9:09am Sat 9 Aug 14

Dai Darwen says...

Shut the **** - job sorted ! ! ! ! !
Shut the **** - job sorted ! ! ! ! ! Dai Darwen
  • Score: 8

9:18am Sat 9 Aug 14

dig for glory says...

Cant believe the mentality of some people, no wonder darwen has such a bad name, used to be such a lovely place to live, glad I got out when I did!
Cant believe the mentality of some people, no wonder darwen has such a bad name, used to be such a lovely place to live, glad I got out when I did! dig for glory
  • Score: -1

11:44am Sat 9 Aug 14

Oldmanofthemountains says...

Having walked along that stretch of road (on the pavement, naturally) earlier today, I'd say this is a classic case of the increasingly frequent modern-day symptom of people not being willing to take responsibility for their own actions.
Having walked along that stretch of road (on the pavement, naturally) earlier today, I'd say this is a classic case of the increasingly frequent modern-day symptom of people not being willing to take responsibility for their own actions. Oldmanofthemountains
  • Score: 8

12:20pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Oldmanofthemountains says...

And another thing, lightly off topic............
What's wrong with using the pub name? It's called the ****, for pete's sake (though God knows why). If you or anyone else choose to give the word a different interpretation, then I'd say you're in need of psychiatric help.
And another thing, lightly off topic............ What's wrong with using the pub name? It's called the ****, for pete's sake (though God knows why). If you or anyone else choose to give the word a different interpretation, then I'd say you're in need of psychiatric help. Oldmanofthemountains
  • Score: 6

12:23pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Oldmanofthemountains says...

Apologies for the tone of the previous post, but I hadn't realized that words like C-O-C-K are automatically censored. Hooray for PC-ness!
Apologies for the tone of the previous post, but I hadn't realized that words like C-O-C-K are automatically censored. Hooray for PC-ness! Oldmanofthemountains
  • Score: 4

12:25pm Sat 9 Aug 14

darwenTower says...

JayEss wrote:
Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone.
People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.
Silliest thing i've read in a long time.

Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.
[quote][p][bold]JayEss[/bold] wrote: Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone. People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.[/p][/quote]Silliest thing i've read in a long time. Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them. darwenTower
  • Score: -2

2:31pm Sat 9 Aug 14

JayEss says...

darwenTower wrote:
JayEss wrote:
Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone.
People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.
Silliest thing i've read in a long time.

Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.
Rubbish. Utter rubbish in a number of ways.
People pay millions in taxes but the upkeep of the roads, the cost of air pollution, the obesity crisis and the thousands of lives lost or permanently altered every year take that back out. You're only paying for the damage you do and it's arguable if you're covering all of it.

Our towns are for people not for cars, if you really think the motorist has to bend over backwards then you are just being foolish. You occasionally need to stop so people can cross? That's what you call bending over backwards? You've got a massive feeling of entitlement that is undeserved and unwarranted.

Road incidents are the danger they are because of cars, it really is that simple. Until we realise the inherent danger in cars and put proper infrastructure and priorities in place then there will be lives for lost for no good reason. Our towns could be lovely places for people to spend time, that is a far bigger benefit than you needing to drive at 30mph in built up areas.
[quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayEss[/bold] wrote: Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone. People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.[/p][/quote]Silliest thing i've read in a long time. Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. Utter rubbish in a number of ways. People pay millions in taxes but the upkeep of the roads, the cost of air pollution, the obesity crisis and the thousands of lives lost or permanently altered every year take that back out. You're only paying for the damage you do and it's arguable if you're covering all of it. Our towns are for people not for cars, if you really think the motorist has to bend over backwards then you are just being foolish. You occasionally need to stop so people can cross? That's what you call bending over backwards? You've got a massive feeling of entitlement that is undeserved and unwarranted. Road incidents are the danger they are because of cars, it really is that simple. Until we realise the inherent danger in cars and put proper infrastructure and priorities in place then there will be lives for lost for no good reason. Our towns could be lovely places for people to spend time, that is a far bigger benefit than you needing to drive at 30mph in built up areas. JayEss
  • Score: 3

6:59pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Dai Darwen says...

JayEss wrote:
darwenTower wrote:
JayEss wrote:
Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone.
People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.
Silliest thing i've read in a long time.

Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.
Rubbish. Utter rubbish in a number of ways.
People pay millions in taxes but the upkeep of the roads, the cost of air pollution, the obesity crisis and the thousands of lives lost or permanently altered every year take that back out. You're only paying for the damage you do and it's arguable if you're covering all of it.

Our towns are for people not for cars, if you really think the motorist has to bend over backwards then you are just being foolish. You occasionally need to stop so people can cross? That's what you call bending over backwards? You've got a massive feeling of entitlement that is undeserved and unwarranted.

Road incidents are the danger they are because of cars, it really is that simple. Until we realise the inherent danger in cars and put proper infrastructure and priorities in place then there will be lives for lost for no good reason. Our towns could be lovely places for people to spend time, that is a far bigger benefit than you needing to drive at 30mph in built up areas.
How would people get to towns without transport, which includes cars.

Road incidents are because of cars ?
What about, lorries, motor bikes and heaven forbid people.
The common factor in all those are people who either walk on the pavement or cross the road. They even drive lorries, motor bikes and cars.
Therefore I do not think cars are to blame here.
[quote][p][bold]JayEss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayEss[/bold] wrote: Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone. People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.[/p][/quote]Silliest thing i've read in a long time. Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. Utter rubbish in a number of ways. People pay millions in taxes but the upkeep of the roads, the cost of air pollution, the obesity crisis and the thousands of lives lost or permanently altered every year take that back out. You're only paying for the damage you do and it's arguable if you're covering all of it. Our towns are for people not for cars, if you really think the motorist has to bend over backwards then you are just being foolish. You occasionally need to stop so people can cross? That's what you call bending over backwards? You've got a massive feeling of entitlement that is undeserved and unwarranted. Road incidents are the danger they are because of cars, it really is that simple. Until we realise the inherent danger in cars and put proper infrastructure and priorities in place then there will be lives for lost for no good reason. Our towns could be lovely places for people to spend time, that is a far bigger benefit than you needing to drive at 30mph in built up areas.[/p][/quote]How would people get to towns without transport, which includes cars. Road incidents are because of cars ? What about, lorries, motor bikes and heaven forbid people. The common factor in all those are people who either walk on the pavement or cross the road. They even drive lorries, motor bikes and cars. Therefore I do not think cars are to blame here. Dai Darwen
  • Score: 1

7:30pm Sat 9 Aug 14

JayEss says...

Dai Darwen wrote:
JayEss wrote:
darwenTower wrote:
JayEss wrote:
Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone.
People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.
Silliest thing i've read in a long time.

Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.
Rubbish. Utter rubbish in a number of ways.
People pay millions in taxes but the upkeep of the roads, the cost of air pollution, the obesity crisis and the thousands of lives lost or permanently altered every year take that back out. You're only paying for the damage you do and it's arguable if you're covering all of it.

Our towns are for people not for cars, if you really think the motorist has to bend over backwards then you are just being foolish. You occasionally need to stop so people can cross? That's what you call bending over backwards? You've got a massive feeling of entitlement that is undeserved and unwarranted.

Road incidents are the danger they are because of cars, it really is that simple. Until we realise the inherent danger in cars and put proper infrastructure and priorities in place then there will be lives for lost for no good reason. Our towns could be lovely places for people to spend time, that is a far bigger benefit than you needing to drive at 30mph in built up areas.
How would people get to towns without transport, which includes cars.

Road incidents are because of cars ?
What about, lorries, motor bikes and heaven forbid people.
The common factor in all those are people who either walk on the pavement or cross the road. They even drive lorries, motor bikes and cars.
Therefore I do not think cars are to blame here.
That's my point. People will make mistakes, the tone of most of the comments just blame people for being people. We should look to make our towns more pedestrian friendly instead of the opposite. Putting up barriers just says that we think cars (or other motor traffic, didn't think I needed to be so specific) are more important and take priority, it's the wrong way round.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Darwen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayEss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayEss[/bold] wrote: Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone. People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.[/p][/quote]Silliest thing i've read in a long time. Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. Utter rubbish in a number of ways. People pay millions in taxes but the upkeep of the roads, the cost of air pollution, the obesity crisis and the thousands of lives lost or permanently altered every year take that back out. You're only paying for the damage you do and it's arguable if you're covering all of it. Our towns are for people not for cars, if you really think the motorist has to bend over backwards then you are just being foolish. You occasionally need to stop so people can cross? That's what you call bending over backwards? You've got a massive feeling of entitlement that is undeserved and unwarranted. Road incidents are the danger they are because of cars, it really is that simple. Until we realise the inherent danger in cars and put proper infrastructure and priorities in place then there will be lives for lost for no good reason. Our towns could be lovely places for people to spend time, that is a far bigger benefit than you needing to drive at 30mph in built up areas.[/p][/quote]How would people get to towns without transport, which includes cars. Road incidents are because of cars ? What about, lorries, motor bikes and heaven forbid people. The common factor in all those are people who either walk on the pavement or cross the road. They even drive lorries, motor bikes and cars. Therefore I do not think cars are to blame here.[/p][/quote]That's my point. People will make mistakes, the tone of most of the comments just blame people for being people. We should look to make our towns more pedestrian friendly instead of the opposite. Putting up barriers just says that we think cars (or other motor traffic, didn't think I needed to be so specific) are more important and take priority, it's the wrong way round. JayEss
  • Score: 2

2:02pm Sun 10 Aug 14

darwenTower says...

JayEss wrote:
darwenTower wrote:
JayEss wrote:
Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone.
People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.
Silliest thing i've read in a long time.

Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.
Rubbish. Utter rubbish in a number of ways.
People pay millions in taxes but the upkeep of the roads, the cost of air pollution, the obesity crisis and the thousands of lives lost or permanently altered every year take that back out. You're only paying for the damage you do and it's arguable if you're covering all of it.

Our towns are for people not for cars, if you really think the motorist has to bend over backwards then you are just being foolish. You occasionally need to stop so people can cross? That's what you call bending over backwards? You've got a massive feeling of entitlement that is undeserved and unwarranted.

Road incidents are the danger they are because of cars, it really is that simple. Until we realise the inherent danger in cars and put proper infrastructure and priorities in place then there will be lives for lost for no good reason. Our towns could be lovely places for people to spend time, that is a far bigger benefit than you needing to drive at 30mph in built up areas.
Where possible I walk.
If convenient I cycle.

I manage both without ending up sprawled on the tarmac. It's not rocket surgery.

For what it's worth i'd happily see bypasses built around all towns and see a drastic reduction in the amount of traffic within. But that would mean more roads, and those opposed to roads/traffic are polar in thought and as such are opposed even when there'd be a benefit.
So nothing ever changes.

My point about crossings stands though. If I was knocked down on a bend in the road 10 strides away from a crossing, and survived the incident, i'd be too embarrassed to complain.
[quote][p][bold]JayEss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayEss[/bold] wrote: Slow cars down in busy areas. Pedestrians should be the priority and not cars. We've bent over backwards for the motor car and people are dying, slow down and that 60 seconds on your journey will improve road safety for everyone. People make mistakes so rather than blaming them for being human we should plan our towns so mistakes aren't fatal.[/p][/quote]Silliest thing i've read in a long time. Motorist put billions into the economy and we bend over backwards for pedestrians every time we stop at any of the NUMEROUS safe crossings provided for them.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. Utter rubbish in a number of ways. People pay millions in taxes but the upkeep of the roads, the cost of air pollution, the obesity crisis and the thousands of lives lost or permanently altered every year take that back out. You're only paying for the damage you do and it's arguable if you're covering all of it. Our towns are for people not for cars, if you really think the motorist has to bend over backwards then you are just being foolish. You occasionally need to stop so people can cross? That's what you call bending over backwards? You've got a massive feeling of entitlement that is undeserved and unwarranted. Road incidents are the danger they are because of cars, it really is that simple. Until we realise the inherent danger in cars and put proper infrastructure and priorities in place then there will be lives for lost for no good reason. Our towns could be lovely places for people to spend time, that is a far bigger benefit than you needing to drive at 30mph in built up areas.[/p][/quote]Where possible I walk. If convenient I cycle. I manage both without ending up sprawled on the tarmac. It's not rocket surgery. For what it's worth i'd happily see bypasses built around all towns and see a drastic reduction in the amount of traffic within. But that would mean more roads, and those opposed to roads/traffic are polar in thought and as such are opposed even when there'd be a benefit. So nothing ever changes. My point about crossings stands though. If I was knocked down on a bend in the road 10 strides away from a crossing, and survived the incident, i'd be too embarrassed to complain. darwenTower
  • Score: 1

7:29pm Sun 10 Aug 14

arrod baw says...

**** **** **** ****
testing testing 123
**** **** **** **** testing testing 123 arrod baw
  • Score: 3

7:30pm Sun 10 Aug 14

arrod baw says...

arrod baw wrote:
**** **** **** ****
testing testing 123
yeh they do sensor ****
new to me as well ****
[quote][p][bold]arrod baw[/bold] wrote: **** **** **** **** testing testing 123[/p][/quote]yeh they do sensor **** new to me as well **** arrod baw
  • Score: 3

9:37pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Oldmanofthemountains says...

Had another look at this spot today. If you are right on the corner of George Street, you have full visibility in BOTH directions. If you're a few yards towards the direction of Blackburn (and, note, not much further from a zebra crossing), and you're trying to cross to the C-O-C-K after you've had the "odd" drink, well.........draw your own conclusion.
Had another look at this spot today. If you are right on the corner of George Street, you have full visibility in BOTH directions. If you're a few yards towards the direction of Blackburn (and, note, not much further from a zebra crossing), and you're trying to cross to the C-O-C-K after you've had the "odd" drink, well.........draw your own conclusion. Oldmanofthemountains
  • Score: 3

1:05am Mon 11 Aug 14

CapitaBackHander says...

Oldmanofthemountains wrote:
Having walked along that stretch of road (on the pavement, naturally) earlier today, I'd say this is a classic case of the increasingly frequent modern-day symptom of people not being willing to take responsibility for their own actions.
So true. (obviously I meant road).
Next big story will be when a child gets knocked down on Harwood Street - stupid children and parent/s allowing children to run in between parked cars and sit on the so called traffic calming (all on wrong side/place - re parked cars there anyway) islands. Those parents will be straight to media saying cars fly up here blah blah.... Take responsibility before it is too late.
[quote][p][bold]Oldmanofthemountains[/bold] wrote: Having walked along that stretch of road (on the pavement, naturally) earlier today, I'd say this is a classic case of the increasingly frequent modern-day symptom of people not being willing to take responsibility for their own actions.[/p][/quote]So true. (obviously I meant road). Next big story will be when a child gets knocked down on Harwood Street - stupid children and parent/s allowing children to run in between parked cars and sit on the so called traffic calming (all on wrong side/place - re parked cars there anyway) islands. Those parents will be straight to media saying cars fly up here blah blah.... Take responsibility before it is too late. CapitaBackHander
  • Score: 2

1:05am Mon 11 Aug 14

CapitaBackHander says...

Oldmanofthemountains wrote:
Having walked along that stretch of road (on the pavement, naturally) earlier today, I'd say this is a classic case of the increasingly frequent modern-day symptom of people not being willing to take responsibility for their own actions.
So true. (obviously I meant road).
Next big story will be when a child gets knocked down on Harwood Street - stupid children and parent/s allowing children to run in between parked cars and sit on the so called traffic calming (all on wrong side/place - re parked cars there anyway) islands. Those parents will be straight to media saying cars fly up here blah blah.... Take responsibility before it is too late.
[quote][p][bold]Oldmanofthemountains[/bold] wrote: Having walked along that stretch of road (on the pavement, naturally) earlier today, I'd say this is a classic case of the increasingly frequent modern-day symptom of people not being willing to take responsibility for their own actions.[/p][/quote]So true. (obviously I meant road). Next big story will be when a child gets knocked down on Harwood Street - stupid children and parent/s allowing children to run in between parked cars and sit on the so called traffic calming (all on wrong side/place - re parked cars there anyway) islands. Those parents will be straight to media saying cars fly up here blah blah.... Take responsibility before it is too late. CapitaBackHander
  • Score: 1

8:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

applebaker says...

Rapid taxis in darwen are a nightmare, they double park on the road outside their rank, also they employ drivers who don't wear seatbelts and are dangerous drivers.
I have also seen the lady in this photo throw rubbish out of her car after her dinner.
Rapid taxis need closing down
Rapid taxis in darwen are a nightmare, they double park on the road outside their rank, also they employ drivers who don't wear seatbelts and are dangerous drivers. I have also seen the lady in this photo throw rubbish out of her car after her dinner. Rapid taxis need closing down applebaker
  • Score: 1

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