Public backlash as three week rubbish bin collections approved by Bury Council

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BURY Council bosses are facing a fierce backlash over controversial plans to become the first authority in England to switch the collection of grey bins to every three weeks.

Politicians, members of the public and a trades union are spearheading opposition against the proposals which were approved at a council Cabinet meeting last night.

Criticism levelled against the council include fears that the proposal to empty grey bins every three weeks — instead of fortnightly — will cause problems for larger families and could lead to vermin and flytipping.

Others have slammed the council for not consulting with the public before the plans were announced.

The proposal for the grey bins — which cater for non-recyclable household waste — was revealed as part of the council’s strategy to create a “zero waste” borough.

It will also mean green and blue recycling bins would be emptied once every three weeks, instead of four, while the brown bins would remain at their current two-week collection.

Council chiefs stressed the new arrangements, set to be introduced in October, will push recycling rates up from 47.6 per cent to 60 per cent or beyond by March, 2016, and generate annual savings of £862,000 in waste treatment and disposal costs.

They say larger families with extra waste they cannot recycle will be able to apply for an extra grey bin.

Cllr Iain Gartside, the Conservative group leader on Bury Council, says they are “very concerned” about the effect the switch is going to have on many families and households.

He added: “Having spoken to many residents, we know lots of people will struggle to cope with a three-weekly grey bin collection.

“Many residents have also been encouraged by Bury Council to exchange their large bin for a smaller one to help with recycling.

“So, how are they now going cope with a three-weekly collection? The effect of increasing levels of fly-tipping, which could cause public health hazards, is also a major concern.

“There has also been a serious lack of consultation on this by the ruling Labour group, who appear to be trying to railroad this policy through.

“The decision was made by the Cabinet committee made up of Labour Party members only less than a week after they announced the proposals.”

If the plan goes ahead, Cllr Gartside says he intends to “call in” the decision to the council's scrutiny committee to ask Labour to reconsider it.

He added: “I accept that we need to do all we can to improve recycling rates in our borough but there are better ways to go about it.”

LibDem Cllr Tim Pickstone said: “Local people are furious about this proposal.

“Not only is Bury Council proposing to have the worst bin collection frequency in England but the way it announced the decision, with no consultation or public involvement, has also annoyed many people.

“Liberal Democrats have been conducting an online opinion poll over the weekend and 700 people have responded so far. Ninety per cent are opposed to three-weekly collections, six per cent in favour.”

Brian Bamford, secretary of Bury Unite, the main union representing binmen, said: “Our branch is deeply concerned about the proposal to reduce the collection of grey bins in the borough to once every three weeks.

“The talk of plans to create ‘zero waste’ in Bury by council bosses begins to sound like headline- grabbing by an ambitious management and local politicians.”

Radcliffe resident Daniel Barkess handed in a 3,318-signature online petition to Bury Town Hall on Tuesday.

The names for the “say no to three week bin emptying” petition were collected in just five days.

Mr Barkess, aged 27, of North Street, said: “To have our grey bins emptied every three weeks is a disgrace. It will lead to an increase in vermin and disease.

“The good people of the borough should have their bins emptied as usual as many residents already struggle with the way it is.

“To change it to three weeks is a selfish decision, as there are surely other ways to make cutbacks.”

Members of the public also attended Bury Council’s cabinet meeting yesterday to make their views heard.

While some were in support of the plans, others spoke against the proposals and expressed fears over bad odours, increased flytipping and ‘side waste’ left next to bins.

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7:35pm Thu 17 Jul 14

EmShambles says...

Pioneers eh! You've shown the rest of the country Bury Council! You've shown them all how much you couldn't give a toss about your residents. Well done! You're going to need to spend even more money on your fancy flower arrangements to mask the stench. Good luck at the next election!
Pioneers eh! You've shown the rest of the country Bury Council! You've shown them all how much you couldn't give a toss about your residents. Well done! You're going to need to spend even more money on your fancy flower arrangements to mask the stench. Good luck at the next election! EmShambles
  • Score: 31

8:43pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Holy Roman EU says...

This is what happens when you allow a council to be majority Labour. Out of touch with ordinary people. Tories, Labour - two sides of the same coin. How will big families cope? Vote UKIP next year.
This is what happens when you allow a council to be majority Labour. Out of touch with ordinary people. Tories, Labour - two sides of the same coin. How will big families cope? Vote UKIP next year. Holy Roman EU
  • Score: 17

9:11pm Thu 17 Jul 14

woolfold123 says...

We don't even have a blue bin or brown bin, so three weeks of rubbish to fit in to a bin originally designed for 1 weeks worth.

Well done Bury council, leading the field in incompetent waste management.
We don't even have a blue bin or brown bin, so three weeks of rubbish to fit in to a bin originally designed for 1 weeks worth. Well done Bury council, leading the field in incompetent waste management. woolfold123
  • Score: 18

9:26pm Thu 17 Jul 14

mrlumpy says...

Well done government cuts!

Do people not realise that this is only happening due to the scale of the cuts from central government which have been larger in Labour controlled areas. Naked Tory politics.
Well done government cuts! Do people not realise that this is only happening due to the scale of the cuts from central government which have been larger in Labour controlled areas. Naked Tory politics. mrlumpy
  • Score: -15

9:40pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Holy Roman EU says...

mrlumpy wrote:
Well done government cuts!

Do people not realise that this is only happening due to the scale of the cuts from central government which have been larger in Labour controlled areas. Naked Tory politics.
That's the lie Labour are spinning. Yes there are cuts but there are also other areas to save from.
[quote][p][bold]mrlumpy[/bold] wrote: Well done government cuts! Do people not realise that this is only happening due to the scale of the cuts from central government which have been larger in Labour controlled areas. Naked Tory politics.[/p][/quote]That's the lie Labour are spinning. Yes there are cuts but there are also other areas to save from. Holy Roman EU
  • Score: 18

11:38pm Thu 17 Jul 14

postivechange says...

If I can make a couple of observations here that will shed a little more light on this "public backlash" and the "very concerned" Labour opposition.

Firstly, the petition that showed the landslide results of 90% voting against the move to a three weekly collection. This petition was created by a Lib Dem Councillor on a hearts and minds campaign - seizing his opportunity perfectly. The link to the petition was ONLY posted onto the 'Say NO to Bury Council 3 weekly bin collections' Facebook page and even then out of the 4'800 'likes' on this page only 700 responded to the petition. Oh and to add insult to injury with this VERY targeted audience it still managed to bag 70 'no' responses. It's like walking into a church and asking the congregation - do you believe in God?
Is this conclusive evidence of a 'public backlash'? I certainly don't think it is.

My other observation is that when these proposals were put to the members in chambers last night, how many voices do think spoke up when given the opportunity to contest the decision? Not only Labour opposition voices but also the TEN members of the general public who showed up and were invited/encouraged to speak when asked if there were any ?
Let me enlighten you - not a single one. These changes were passed without as much as a negative murmur. Where were your Councillors in shining armor that vowed to fight this to the bitter end on your behalf?

So before this becomes a witch hunt over who did what, remember you can't hide behind a computer with an alias or simply join in the Facebook offensive with your virtual flaming torch and pitchfork expecting to be heard and your opinions valued if you don't utter a single syllable when it really matters.

As you may of guessed I am personally all for these changes and I have explained my opinions in depth in the comments section of the original article on this site. My reasons are not politically biased as my vote actually goes to a party not mentioned in this post so please don't assume I am a Labour sympathiser.

It's a basic example of the greater good. Upset a very small minority now to benefit the wider population later.
If I can make a couple of observations here that will shed a little more light on this "public backlash" and the "very concerned" Labour opposition. Firstly, the petition that showed the landslide results of 90% voting against the move to a three weekly collection. This petition was created by a Lib Dem Councillor on a hearts and minds campaign - seizing his opportunity perfectly. The link to the petition was ONLY posted onto the 'Say NO to Bury Council 3 weekly bin collections' Facebook page and even then out of the 4'800 'likes' on this page only 700 responded to the petition. Oh and to add insult to injury with this VERY targeted audience it still managed to bag 70 'no' responses. It's like walking into a church and asking the congregation - do you believe in God? Is this conclusive evidence of a 'public backlash'? I certainly don't think it is. My other observation is that when these proposals were put to the members in chambers last night, how many voices do think spoke up when given the opportunity to contest the decision? Not only Labour opposition voices but also the TEN members of the general public who showed up and were invited/encouraged to speak when asked if there were any ? Let me enlighten you - not a single one. These changes were passed without as much as a negative murmur. Where were your Councillors in shining armor that vowed to fight this to the bitter end on your behalf? So before this becomes a witch hunt over who did what, remember you can't hide behind a computer with an alias or simply join in the Facebook offensive with your virtual flaming torch and pitchfork expecting to be heard and your opinions valued if you don't utter a single syllable when it really matters. As you may of guessed I am personally all for these changes and I have explained my opinions in depth in the comments section of the original article on this site. My reasons are not politically biased as my vote actually goes to a party not mentioned in this post so please don't assume I am a Labour sympathiser. It's a basic example of the greater good. Upset a very small minority now to benefit the wider population later. postivechange
  • Score: -15

11:39pm Thu 17 Jul 14

falcon4 says...

Saving money!!!!!!
Did the council recycle all the old furniture and computers when they moved into the new offices at Knowsley? No they bought NEW, to fit in with the new build. What was the cost to change the letter head to the new address? How much money was spent to print leaflets last week about bin collection due to the strike....

3weekly grey bin collection STINKS!
Saving money!!!!!! Did the council recycle all the old furniture and computers when they moved into the new offices at Knowsley? No they bought NEW, to fit in with the new build. What was the cost to change the letter head to the new address? How much money was spent to print leaflets last week about bin collection due to the strike.... 3weekly grey bin collection STINKS! falcon4
  • Score: 19

8:46am Fri 18 Jul 14

mrlumpy says...

Holy Roman EU wrote:
mrlumpy wrote:
Well done government cuts!

Do people not realise that this is only happening due to the scale of the cuts from central government which have been larger in Labour controlled areas. Naked Tory politics.
That's the lie Labour are spinning. Yes there are cuts but there are also other areas to save from.
Such as? What would you like to have seen cut?
[quote][p][bold]Holy Roman EU[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrlumpy[/bold] wrote: Well done government cuts! Do people not realise that this is only happening due to the scale of the cuts from central government which have been larger in Labour controlled areas. Naked Tory politics.[/p][/quote]That's the lie Labour are spinning. Yes there are cuts but there are also other areas to save from.[/p][/quote]Such as? What would you like to have seen cut? mrlumpy
  • Score: 3

9:09am Fri 18 Jul 14

KazzyJ says...

What ever happened to common sense? Did you consult with waste management workers? The council really needs to get its act together and manage the budget more wisely! This proposal is nonsense and no sense
What ever happened to common sense? Did you consult with waste management workers? The council really needs to get its act together and manage the budget more wisely! This proposal is nonsense and no sense KazzyJ
  • Score: 9

2:43am Sun 20 Jul 14

buryblackpudding says...

The issue of waste disposal is a touchstone issue it effects every home in the borough.
Whilst I have personal issues with this change that I expect will be resolved the way it was done is cynical and wrong.
It is apparent from the speed that the information appeared on the council website that this was a well planned PR exercise.
To announce it a week before it was put to members is an affront to the democratic process,
On a broader note once upon a time before they scrapped the weekly bin collection Bury provided a free weekly yellow bag disposable incontinence pad collection.
When I had a previous rat infestation problem environmental services resolved the problem free of charge. Now you have to pay.
Can you see the pattern refuse collection is being turned into a revenue stream.
I think its time that we re cycle this council.
The issue of waste disposal is a touchstone issue it effects every home in the borough. Whilst I have personal issues with this change that I expect will be resolved the way it was done is cynical and wrong. It is apparent from the speed that the information appeared on the council website that this was a well planned PR exercise. To announce it a week before it was put to members is an affront to the democratic process, On a broader note once upon a time before they scrapped the weekly bin collection Bury provided a free weekly yellow bag disposable incontinence pad collection. When I had a previous rat infestation problem environmental services resolved the problem free of charge. Now you have to pay. Can you see the pattern refuse collection is being turned into a revenue stream. I think its time that we re cycle this council. buryblackpudding
  • Score: 3

9:51pm Mon 21 Jul 14

shangey says...

postivechange wrote:
If I can make a couple of observations here that will shed a little more light on this "public backlash" and the "very concerned" Labour opposition.

Firstly, the petition that showed the landslide results of 90% voting against the move to a three weekly collection. This petition was created by a Lib Dem Councillor on a hearts and minds campaign - seizing his opportunity perfectly. The link to the petition was ONLY posted onto the 'Say NO to Bury Council 3 weekly bin collections' Facebook page and even then out of the 4'800 'likes' on this page only 700 responded to the petition. Oh and to add insult to injury with this VERY targeted audience it still managed to bag 70 'no' responses. It's like walking into a church and asking the congregation - do you believe in God?
Is this conclusive evidence of a 'public backlash'? I certainly don't think it is.

My other observation is that when these proposals were put to the members in chambers last night, how many voices do think spoke up when given the opportunity to contest the decision? Not only Labour opposition voices but also the TEN members of the general public who showed up and were invited/encouraged to speak when asked if there were any ?
Let me enlighten you - not a single one. These changes were passed without as much as a negative murmur. Where were your Councillors in shining armor that vowed to fight this to the bitter end on your behalf?

So before this becomes a witch hunt over who did what, remember you can't hide behind a computer with an alias or simply join in the Facebook offensive with your virtual flaming torch and pitchfork expecting to be heard and your opinions valued if you don't utter a single syllable when it really matters.

As you may of guessed I am personally all for these changes and I have explained my opinions in depth in the comments section of the original article on this site. My reasons are not politically biased as my vote actually goes to a party not mentioned in this post so please don't assume I am a Labour sympathiser.

It's a basic example of the greater good. Upset a very small minority now to benefit the wider population later.
obviously the residents off Bury stupidly voted for labour councillors , I voted conservative, this labour council is so corrupt, its full off middle management workers all very highly paid, lost of jobs for the boys, family and friends, lots off tax payers money wasted on I pads new shinny buildings that were not needed, ask yourself this? when did you last see a refuge collectors job advertised in the job centre or in the bury times, that's because these highly paid jobs are given to family or friends of existing workers, problem with Bury we've got lots off lazy people on benefits voting labour, my neighbour has 3 kids all with different dads,
her youngest being 4 months old, born just in time to prevent her from looking for work for a job for the next 5 years, her new partner smokes ganja all day, they don't recycle and there bins stink and are full off blue bottle fly's, and maggots, the government struggling to deal with problem families like these, but progress is being made, ultimately to stop the recurring cycle in society, the government will have to limited the number of children these uneducated people can have, £40 billion a year and rising is to much money to be paying in benefits, the UK is paying 50million pounds a week in interest payments to service the 1.3 trillion owed by the UK government. Cuts! unfortunately you aint seen nothing yet, in the last 15 years bury and it surrounding has changed, and integration is defiantly not working we are all screwed, sad but true
[quote][p][bold]postivechange[/bold] wrote: If I can make a couple of observations here that will shed a little more light on this "public backlash" and the "very concerned" Labour opposition. Firstly, the petition that showed the landslide results of 90% voting against the move to a three weekly collection. This petition was created by a Lib Dem Councillor on a hearts and minds campaign - seizing his opportunity perfectly. The link to the petition was ONLY posted onto the 'Say NO to Bury Council 3 weekly bin collections' Facebook page and even then out of the 4'800 'likes' on this page only 700 responded to the petition. Oh and to add insult to injury with this VERY targeted audience it still managed to bag 70 'no' responses. It's like walking into a church and asking the congregation - do you believe in God? Is this conclusive evidence of a 'public backlash'? I certainly don't think it is. My other observation is that when these proposals were put to the members in chambers last night, how many voices do think spoke up when given the opportunity to contest the decision? Not only Labour opposition voices but also the TEN members of the general public who showed up and were invited/encouraged to speak when asked if there were any ? Let me enlighten you - not a single one. These changes were passed without as much as a negative murmur. Where were your Councillors in shining armor that vowed to fight this to the bitter end on your behalf? So before this becomes a witch hunt over who did what, remember you can't hide behind a computer with an alias or simply join in the Facebook offensive with your virtual flaming torch and pitchfork expecting to be heard and your opinions valued if you don't utter a single syllable when it really matters. As you may of guessed I am personally all for these changes and I have explained my opinions in depth in the comments section of the original article on this site. My reasons are not politically biased as my vote actually goes to a party not mentioned in this post so please don't assume I am a Labour sympathiser. It's a basic example of the greater good. Upset a very small minority now to benefit the wider population later.[/p][/quote]obviously the residents off Bury stupidly voted for labour councillors , I voted conservative, this labour council is so corrupt, its full off middle management workers all very highly paid, lost of jobs for the boys, family and friends, lots off tax payers money wasted on I pads new shinny buildings that were not needed, ask yourself this? when did you last see a refuge collectors job advertised in the job centre or in the bury times, that's because these highly paid jobs are given to family or friends of existing workers, problem with Bury we've got lots off lazy people on benefits voting labour, my neighbour has 3 kids all with different dads, her youngest being 4 months old, born just in time to prevent her from looking for work for a job for the next 5 years, her new partner smokes ganja all day, they don't recycle and there bins stink and are full off blue bottle fly's, and maggots, the government struggling to deal with problem families like these, but progress is being made, ultimately to stop the recurring cycle in society, the government will have to limited the number of children these uneducated people can have, £40 billion a year and rising is to much money to be paying in benefits, the UK is paying 50million pounds a week in interest payments to service the 1.3 trillion owed by the UK government. Cuts! unfortunately you aint seen nothing yet, in the last 15 years bury and it surrounding has changed, and integration is defiantly not working we are all screwed, sad but true shangey
  • Score: -2

9:58am Wed 23 Jul 14

Tayyibah Naz says...

I am very disappointed that the grey bin collections will be taking place on a three week basis. There has been no consultation or information given to residents prior to this decision.
The reasons given on the website are not sufficient as we have a real problem with rubbish being dumped in the back streets of East Ward regardless of the fortnightly collections, surely there are other cost effective measures that can take place. It is very disheartening to have a decision made that is not even acknowledging our opinions.
I am very disappointed that the grey bin collections will be taking place on a three week basis. There has been no consultation or information given to residents prior to this decision. The reasons given on the website are not sufficient as we have a real problem with rubbish being dumped in the back streets of East Ward regardless of the fortnightly collections, surely there are other cost effective measures that can take place. It is very disheartening to have a decision made that is not even acknowledging our opinions. Tayyibah Naz
  • Score: 0

11:56am Thu 24 Jul 14

Concerned Nana says...

My daughter lives on Cateaton Street in Bury and the back street there is an absolute disgrace. Mattresses, split open black bags, building debris it absolutely stinks, people have no pride in where they live anymore.

She has contacted the Council previously to report, but maybe they need to find out who is doing this and deal with it.

You can bet your bottom dollar they wont have to look far.
My daughter lives on Cateaton Street in Bury and the back street there is an absolute disgrace. Mattresses, split open black bags, building debris it absolutely stinks, people have no pride in where they live anymore. She has contacted the Council previously to report, but maybe they need to find out who is doing this and deal with it. You can bet your bottom dollar they wont have to look far. Concerned Nana
  • Score: 1
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