Government to ban Bolton Council from using CCTV 'spy car' as 'cash cow'

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THE government will ban Bolton Council and other local authorities from using CCTV “spy cars” to catch motorists parking illegally.

The move has been made after a three-month consultation to rein in “greedy councils” accused by communities secretary Eric Pickles of using the method as a “cash cow”.

In September last year, the council denied it made a profit from parking fines and defended its use of the “spy car”, saying it would await the results of a government consultation before making any decisions on its future.

It will now be illegal for councils to issue fines to drivers based solely on CCTV car footage, but authorities will still be able to use them on “critical” routes, such as near schools and bus lanes.

Cllr Linda Thomas, deputy leader of Bolton Council said: “I do think it is a useful tool to have where people park inappropriately, in particular around schools were it can be dangerous for the children.

“I do think Mr Pickles has probably realised that it is an important tool.”

Cllr Nick Peel said: “We only ever used the car as a result of requests from members of the public, in areas where problems were being caused for other motorists.

“This will lead to an increase in complaints from people about double parking and parking around junctions.

“If a traffic warden approaches a person parked illegally they can drive off, which is not a long-term incentive to change their behaviour.”

Mr Pickles said: "CCTV spy cars can be seen lurking on every street raking in cash for greedy councils and breaking the rules that clearly state that fines should not be used to generate profit for town halls.

"Over-zealous parking enforcement and unreasonable stealth fines by post undermine the high street, push up the cost of living and cost local authorities more in the long term.”

Bolton Council will also be forced to publish how their income from parking charges is used, which it has previously said “goes back into traffic schemes and improving the road network”.

There has been a marked increase in the use of CCTV to enforce parking regulations since it was introduced under Labour in 2004, and nine million parking fines are now handed out by local authorities in England every year, raking in £1.3 billion in 2010.

The ban is being introduced to rein in "over-zealous parking enforcement practices", which the government says has forced people to shop in out-of-town centres or online.

Transport secretary Patrick McLoughlin said: "These measures will deliver a fairer deal for motorists, ensuring that parking enforcement is proportionate, that schoolchildren are protected and buses can move freely, and that key routes are kept clear."

Other measures being introduced include trialling a 25 per cent discount for motorists who lose an appeal against a parking ticket and no longer fining drivers parking near broken meters if there is no other way to pay.

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12:17pm Sat 21 Jun 14

tillyflop53 says...

I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined !
I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined ! tillyflop53
  • Score: 41

12:20pm Sat 21 Jun 14

tillyflop53 says...

tillyflop53 wrote:
I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined !
I wrote (d a m n) and it was blanked out ! hmm
[quote][p][bold]tillyflop53[/bold] wrote: I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined ![/p][/quote]I wrote (d a m n) and it was blanked out ! hmm tillyflop53
  • Score: 2

12:33pm Sat 21 Jun 14

whitewall76 says...

tillyflop53 wrote:
I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined !
Only that's not what they were being used for were they. That's why they have been made illegal.
As well documented on here, they were mainly used to sneakily pick off unsuspecting ATM users stopping for a minute or two at the top of one road while totally ignoring the double parking and seemingly abandoned cars at the bottom. They knew. We knew. The government knew it and now it's been stopped.... Good riddance.

and FYI I drive a liveried Company vehicle so don't engage in any illegal activities while driving. Apart from keeping up with the flow of motorway traffic.
[quote][p][bold]tillyflop53[/bold] wrote: I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined ![/p][/quote]Only that's not what they were being used for were they. That's why they have been made illegal. As well documented on here, they were mainly used to sneakily pick off unsuspecting ATM users stopping for a minute or two at the top of one road while totally ignoring the double parking and seemingly abandoned cars at the bottom. They knew. We knew. The government knew it and now it's been stopped.... Good riddance. and FYI I drive a liveried Company vehicle so don't engage in any illegal activities while driving. Apart from keeping up with the flow of motorway traffic. whitewall76
  • Score: 11

1:10pm Sat 21 Jun 14

berushka says...

so why pick on Chelsea Tractor drivers, unless, of course, you drive something smaller and your ego is hurt? It doesn't matter what you drive, just stick to the stopping regulations and you will be okay. However, it is not okay for these little morons in their camera cars parking illegally and then telling you that you are parked illegally! Get rid of them, and get rid of the stupid labour idiots who brought them in in the first place.
so why pick on Chelsea Tractor drivers, unless, of course, you drive something smaller and your ego is hurt? It doesn't matter what you drive, just stick to the stopping regulations and you will be okay. However, it is not okay for these little morons in their camera cars parking illegally and then telling you that you are parked illegally! Get rid of them, and get rid of the stupid labour idiots who brought them in in the first place. berushka
  • Score: 10

1:23pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Chrome1 says...

tillyflop53 wrote:
I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined !
Shut up you idiot. I don't like to be spied on. This argument that 'if you've done nothing wrong you shouldn't be worried' is totally absurd. We have the right to live in a society without hindrance or persecution. Liberty for all. I am a socialist and deplore all aspects of fascism.
[quote][p][bold]tillyflop53[/bold] wrote: I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined ![/p][/quote]Shut up you idiot. I don't like to be spied on. This argument that 'if you've done nothing wrong you shouldn't be worried' is totally absurd. We have the right to live in a society without hindrance or persecution. Liberty for all. I am a socialist and deplore all aspects of fascism. Chrome1
  • Score: -116

1:24pm Sat 21 Jun 14

jimiley says...

On Deane Road, the spy-car manages to park itself on the lane it's supposed to be keeping clear (parking restrictions after 4pm) so what's the flaming point of that? Cars, lorries and vans have to do a detour round the spy-car as it's narrowing the road which would be wider (and safer for cyclists) if it wasn't there.

The council should fine itself for this act of complete numptiness.
On Deane Road, the spy-car manages to park itself on the lane it's supposed to be keeping clear (parking restrictions after 4pm) so what's the flaming point of that? Cars, lorries and vans have to do a detour round the spy-car as it's narrowing the road which would be wider (and safer for cyclists) if it wasn't there. The council should fine itself for this act of complete numptiness. jimiley
  • Score: 43

1:30pm Sat 21 Jun 14

duggie67 says...

one of these cars was used vigorously outside Tesco's express at Kearsley. It was mainly for people using the cash machine who parked on the main road instead of using either of the 2 car parks available.
This was great as they could cause problems with the traffic, but if it was just to keep traffic flowing why did the council feel the need to hide the cctv car on the other side of the road 50 yards away so people did not know they were there?
That was purely to fine people and NOT to remind people not to park on the double yellow lines on the main road!
one of these cars was used vigorously outside Tesco's express at Kearsley. It was mainly for people using the cash machine who parked on the main road instead of using either of the 2 car parks available. This was great as they could cause problems with the traffic, but if it was just to keep traffic flowing why did the council feel the need to hide the cctv car on the other side of the road 50 yards away so people did not know they were there? That was purely to fine people and NOT to remind people not to park on the double yellow lines on the main road! duggie67
  • Score: 26

1:34pm Sat 21 Jun 14

jimiley says...

duggie67 wrote:
one of these cars was used vigorously outside Tesco's express at Kearsley. It was mainly for people using the cash machine who parked on the main road instead of using either of the 2 car parks available.
This was great as they could cause problems with the traffic, but if it was just to keep traffic flowing why did the council feel the need to hide the cctv car on the other side of the road 50 yards away so people did not know they were there?
That was purely to fine people and NOT to remind people not to park on the double yellow lines on the main road!
If a traffic warden was patrolling near the cash machine....people would see him and not park (ie. problem solved).

But, of course, that means the council doesn't get it's £ine and the warden his bonus. Now, am I being cnical as to why the spy-car's tucked away??
[quote][p][bold]duggie67[/bold] wrote: one of these cars was used vigorously outside Tesco's express at Kearsley. It was mainly for people using the cash machine who parked on the main road instead of using either of the 2 car parks available. This was great as they could cause problems with the traffic, but if it was just to keep traffic flowing why did the council feel the need to hide the cctv car on the other side of the road 50 yards away so people did not know they were there? That was purely to fine people and NOT to remind people not to park on the double yellow lines on the main road![/p][/quote]If a traffic warden was patrolling near the cash machine....people would see him and not park (ie. problem solved). But, of course, that means the council doesn't get it's £ine and the warden his bonus. Now, am I being cnical as to why the spy-car's tucked away?? jimiley
  • Score: 20

1:59pm Sat 21 Jun 14

ellen says...

If Councils recover the money taken away by the government in cuts from lazy motorists who can't be bothered to walk from a car park and think the rules do not apply to them then it's fine by me.
I should imagine by looking at the size of him Eric Pickles walks nowhere.
If Councils recover the money taken away by the government in cuts from lazy motorists who can't be bothered to walk from a car park and think the rules do not apply to them then it's fine by me. I should imagine by looking at the size of him Eric Pickles walks nowhere. ellen
  • Score: 2

2:04pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Rememberscarborough says...

If councils didn't get to keep the money they'd have no interest in trying to gain financially. All that matters is trying to stop vehicles hindering the flow of traffic. If you block the traffic you should end up with points on your licence with fur strikes and your out.

However, why can't car parks issue a free ticket for 15 minutes parking to stop people feeling they have to park in front of cash points etc to avoid extortionate parking charges?

Time for both the public and the council to behave responsibly.
If councils didn't get to keep the money they'd have no interest in trying to gain financially. All that matters is trying to stop vehicles hindering the flow of traffic. If you block the traffic you should end up with points on your licence with fur strikes and your out. However, why can't car parks issue a free ticket for 15 minutes parking to stop people feeling they have to park in front of cash points etc to avoid extortionate parking charges? Time for both the public and the council to behave responsibly. Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 13

2:14pm Sat 21 Jun 14

jimiley says...

Rememberscarborough wrote:
If councils didn't get to keep the money they'd have no interest in trying to gain financially. All that matters is trying to stop vehicles hindering the flow of traffic. If you block the traffic you should end up with points on your licence with fur strikes and your out.

However, why can't car parks issue a free ticket for 15 minutes parking to stop people feeling they have to park in front of cash points etc to avoid extortionate parking charges?

Time for both the public and the council to behave responsibly.
So why is the spy-car allowed to block the traffic on Deane Road? One rule for them...??!! Like the idea of free 15 min-parking for people who simply need to use a cashpoint, post a letter etc. Never happen though :-(
[quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote: If councils didn't get to keep the money they'd have no interest in trying to gain financially. All that matters is trying to stop vehicles hindering the flow of traffic. If you block the traffic you should end up with points on your licence with fur strikes and your out. However, why can't car parks issue a free ticket for 15 minutes parking to stop people feeling they have to park in front of cash points etc to avoid extortionate parking charges? Time for both the public and the council to behave responsibly.[/p][/quote]So why is the spy-car allowed to block the traffic on Deane Road? One rule for them...??!! Like the idea of free 15 min-parking for people who simply need to use a cashpoint, post a letter etc. Never happen though :-( jimiley
  • Score: 8

2:25pm Sat 21 Jun 14

holloway_david says...

Chrome1 wrote:
tillyflop53 wrote:
I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined !
Shut up you idiot. I don't like to be spied on. This argument that 'if you've done nothing wrong you shouldn't be worried' is totally absurd. We have the right to live in a society without hindrance or persecution. Liberty for all. I am a socialist and deplore all aspects of fascism.
To Chrome.

It was the Labour government who introduced CCTV to enforce parking so if your a socialist the question should be why did you vote for them if you like your so called freedom.
I think this Labour controlled council will put up council tax again to offset some of the losses on parking fines, caught out by these cars.
It will be interesting to see in print where these fines are going although I do not expect the whole truth.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tillyflop53[/bold] wrote: I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined ![/p][/quote]Shut up you idiot. I don't like to be spied on. This argument that 'if you've done nothing wrong you shouldn't be worried' is totally absurd. We have the right to live in a society without hindrance or persecution. Liberty for all. I am a socialist and deplore all aspects of fascism.[/p][/quote]To Chrome. It was the Labour government who introduced CCTV to enforce parking so if your a socialist the question should be why did you vote for them if you like your so called freedom. I think this Labour controlled council will put up council tax again to offset some of the losses on parking fines, caught out by these cars. It will be interesting to see in print where these fines are going although I do not expect the whole truth. holloway_david
  • Score: 13

2:32pm Sat 21 Jun 14

holloway_david says...

ellen wrote:
If Councils recover the money taken away by the government in cuts from lazy motorists who can't be bothered to walk from a car park and think the rules do not apply to them then it's fine by me.
I should imagine by looking at the size of him Eric Pickles walks nowhere.
In reference to walking, take a look at Cliff Morris.
[quote][p][bold]ellen[/bold] wrote: If Councils recover the money taken away by the government in cuts from lazy motorists who can't be bothered to walk from a car park and think the rules do not apply to them then it's fine by me. I should imagine by looking at the size of him Eric Pickles walks nowhere.[/p][/quote]In reference to walking, take a look at Cliff Morris. holloway_david
  • Score: 20

2:38pm Sat 21 Jun 14

boltonnut says...

Will the people who have paid their fines get their money back and the ones who have not yet paid their fine be excused? Since the government deems these "cash cows" illegal then people should get a reimbursement from the council.This creates another problem,does the council still have the money or has it been "filtered" or "frittered" away,can it be traced?( thought not).If a miracle does take place and the people do get a reimbursement where does the money come from?,probably from the tax payers ,the same people who got fined in the first place.The law is a donkey,can't say the a$$ word on here.P.S.If this "cash cow" thing is illegal does that mean Bolton is being run by a council of criminals?
Will the people who have paid their fines get their money back and the ones who have not yet paid their fine be excused? Since the government deems these "cash cows" illegal then people should get a reimbursement from the council.This creates another problem,does the council still have the money or has it been "filtered" or "frittered" away,can it be traced?( thought not).If a miracle does take place and the people do get a reimbursement where does the money come from?,probably from the tax payers ,the same people who got fined in the first place.The law is a donkey,can't say the a$$ word on here.P.S.If this "cash cow" thing is illegal does that mean Bolton is being run by a council of criminals? boltonnut
  • Score: 4

2:56pm Sat 21 Jun 14

JustBecause says...

Chrome1 wrote:
tillyflop53 wrote:
I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined !
Shut up you idiot. I don't like to be spied on. This argument that 'if you've done nothing wrong you shouldn't be worried' is totally absurd. We have the right to live in a society without hindrance or persecution. Liberty for all. I am a socialist and deplore all aspects of fascism.
Are you mental? It's nothing to do fascism, is about catching people breaking the law, many is it people think its ok to stop at an ATM for 2 mins, or drop their kids off,.

this country has gone totally and utterly potty, 25 % discount if you lose an appeal! how about adding 25% on instead! everyone is going to appeal based on that rule you idiots.

As for broken meters, the rules are clear, if it's broken you cannot park their.

It about time this country got back in the real world.

"A fairer deal for motorist". What ? The system currently is fair, don't park illegally it's that simple, or do we do what usually happens and make the whole system a grey area where people haven't got a clue what's right and wrong.

I personally would buy another 50 of the vehicles, if it's raises money for the council then why is that a bad thing.

What next let the drivers with no insurance get a warning and a free government backed loan to get insurance, or even better lets give everyone with a cold or a splinter a blue badge, all this would be solved over night.

Shameful, i personally am ashamed of the mess this country has been placed in by the PC and general no **** brigade.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tillyflop53[/bold] wrote: I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined ![/p][/quote]Shut up you idiot. I don't like to be spied on. This argument that 'if you've done nothing wrong you shouldn't be worried' is totally absurd. We have the right to live in a society without hindrance or persecution. Liberty for all. I am a socialist and deplore all aspects of fascism.[/p][/quote]Are you mental? It's nothing to do fascism, is about catching people breaking the law, many is it people think its ok to stop at an ATM for 2 mins, or drop their kids off,. this country has gone totally and utterly potty, 25 % discount if you lose an appeal! how about adding 25% on instead! everyone is going to appeal based on that rule you idiots. As for broken meters, the rules are clear, if it's broken you cannot park their. It about time this country got back in the real world. "A fairer deal for motorist". What ? The system currently is fair, don't park illegally it's that simple, or do we do what usually happens and make the whole system a grey area where people haven't got a clue what's right and wrong. I personally would buy another 50 of the vehicles, if it's raises money for the council then why is that a bad thing. What next let the drivers with no insurance get a warning and a free government backed loan to get insurance, or even better lets give everyone with a cold or a splinter a blue badge, all this would be solved over night. Shameful, i personally am ashamed of the mess this country has been placed in by the PC and general no **** brigade. JustBecause
  • Score: 16

2:59pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Farnworth Lady says...

A Taxi Driver complained to me that he had parked outside Pound Stretcher for 5 seconds, while he helped an elderly Lady out of his Cab and into the Shop.
He was issued with a Fine from The Cash Cow Smart Car, and was most annoyed.

I would have given anything to see him "assist" an Elderly Person out of The Cab in 5 seconds, and into the shop........it would have looked like a clip from The Benny Hill Show, without the music.

5 seconds my eye.
He was parked where he should not have been parked and was caught out.
If you illegally or stupidly Park, own it - and pay up.
A Taxi Driver complained to me that he had parked outside Pound Stretcher for 5 seconds, while he helped an elderly Lady out of his Cab and into the Shop. He was issued with a Fine from The Cash Cow Smart Car, and was most annoyed. I would have given anything to see him "assist" an Elderly Person out of The Cab in 5 seconds, and into the shop........it would have looked like a clip from The Benny Hill Show, without the music. 5 seconds my eye. He was parked where he should not have been parked and was caught out. If you illegally or stupidly Park, own it - and pay up. Farnworth Lady
  • Score: 12

3:26pm Sat 21 Jun 14

itsnotthatbad says...

The foreign cctv car lady possibly Italian was rude and aggressive and used to block the traffic outside where I work and then she'd Park in the only available parking spaces. Yes spaces not 1 but 2,and then fine everyone who had to stop at bus stop. I challenged her and nearly got smacked off her. So just took her pictures and she soon went. Glad somethings finally being done.
The foreign cctv car lady possibly Italian was rude and aggressive and used to block the traffic outside where I work and then she'd Park in the only available parking spaces. Yes spaces not 1 but 2,and then fine everyone who had to stop at bus stop. I challenged her and nearly got smacked off her. So just took her pictures and she soon went. Glad somethings finally being done. itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 15

3:43pm Sat 21 Jun 14

mr.mark.c says...

duggie67 wrote:
one of these cars was used vigorously outside Tesco's express at Kearsley. It was mainly for people using the cash machine who parked on the main road instead of using either of the 2 car parks available.
This was great as they could cause problems with the traffic, but if it was just to keep traffic flowing why did the council feel the need to hide the cctv car on the other side of the road 50 yards away so people did not know they were there?
That was purely to fine people and NOT to remind people not to park on the double yellow lines on the main road!
That car was there on Grand National day, people nipping into the bookies had lost before they got into the place, both tiny car parks was also full at the time.
As for the people banging on about illegal parking and how it is dangerous even if it is just to use a cash machine, does that include blue badge holders?
Surley a person can not be exempt from dangerous parking?
[quote][p][bold]duggie67[/bold] wrote: one of these cars was used vigorously outside Tesco's express at Kearsley. It was mainly for people using the cash machine who parked on the main road instead of using either of the 2 car parks available. This was great as they could cause problems with the traffic, but if it was just to keep traffic flowing why did the council feel the need to hide the cctv car on the other side of the road 50 yards away so people did not know they were there? That was purely to fine people and NOT to remind people not to park on the double yellow lines on the main road![/p][/quote]That car was there on Grand National day, people nipping into the bookies had lost before they got into the place, both tiny car parks was also full at the time. As for the people banging on about illegal parking and how it is dangerous even if it is just to use a cash machine, does that include blue badge holders? Surley a person can not be exempt from dangerous parking? mr.mark.c
  • Score: 5

4:00pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Blackrod says...

I don't like the car concept but it will be missed around Bolton School - the side roads around the school and opposite are a nightmare. If you see a merc or a MPV you just expect it to randomly stop in the middle of a road, then put an indicator on as a child gets out. Child walks round the back their car, in front of yours so you cant drive off when the car in front sets off! Never mind the its only double yellows or opposite a school line. When a child gets killed it wont be the parents fault though...
I don't like the car concept but it will be missed around Bolton School - the side roads around the school and opposite are a nightmare. If you see a merc or a MPV you just expect it to randomly stop in the middle of a road, then put an indicator on as a child gets out. Child walks round the back their car, in front of yours so you cant drive off when the car in front sets off! Never mind the its only double yellows or opposite a school line. When a child gets killed it wont be the parents fault though... Blackrod
  • Score: 10

4:32pm Sat 21 Jun 14

itsnotthatbad says...

Blackrod wrote:
I don't like the car concept but it will be missed around Bolton School - the side roads around the school and opposite are a nightmare. If you see a merc or a MPV you just expect it to randomly stop in the middle of a road, then put an indicator on as a child gets out. Child walks round the back their car, in front of yours so you cant drive off when the car in front sets off! Never mind the its only double yellows or opposite a school line. When a child gets killed it wont be the parents fault though...
It was the only time I was happy they were going there! But they were never there all the time when dropping off and picking up....
[quote][p][bold]Blackrod[/bold] wrote: I don't like the car concept but it will be missed around Bolton School - the side roads around the school and opposite are a nightmare. If you see a merc or a MPV you just expect it to randomly stop in the middle of a road, then put an indicator on as a child gets out. Child walks round the back their car, in front of yours so you cant drive off when the car in front sets off! Never mind the its only double yellows or opposite a school line. When a child gets killed it wont be the parents fault though...[/p][/quote]It was the only time I was happy they were going there! But they were never there all the time when dropping off and picking up.... itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 1

4:37pm Sat 21 Jun 14

mr.mark.c says...

It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.
It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 8

4:59pm Sat 21 Jun 14

steveG says...

Councils and public servants were set up to represent and uphold the rights of citizens,unfortunate
ly Bolton council,amongst others,have seen fit,in recent years,to milk the public for all they're worth.The Councillors should be thoroughly ashamed,but as many Boltonians have found to their cost,shame is not an emotion prevalent in the type of person elected to our council but greed is widespread.
Councils and public servants were set up to represent and uphold the rights of citizens,unfortunate ly Bolton council,amongst others,have seen fit,in recent years,to milk the public for all they're worth.The Councillors should be thoroughly ashamed,but as many Boltonians have found to their cost,shame is not an emotion prevalent in the type of person elected to our council but greed is widespread. steveG
  • Score: 13

5:17pm Sat 21 Jun 14

allan111111 says...

The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi
se whats the point
The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi se whats the point allan111111
  • Score: 4

5:26pm Sat 21 Jun 14

mr.mark.c says...

allan111111 wrote:
The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi

se whats the point
Using a cash machine or nipping into a bank is hardly a crime unless you are causing an obstruction or endangering other road users.
The point is that councils was using CCTV as nothing more than a cash cow and not to improve safety in any way.
[quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi se whats the point[/p][/quote]Using a cash machine or nipping into a bank is hardly a crime unless you are causing an obstruction or endangering other road users. The point is that councils was using CCTV as nothing more than a cash cow and not to improve safety in any way. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Sat 21 Jun 14

allan111111 says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi


se whats the point
Using a cash machine or nipping into a bank is hardly a crime unless you are causing an obstruction or endangering other road users.
The point is that councils was using CCTV as nothing more than a cash cow and not to improve safety in any way.
I was under the impression they were used to catch people parking illegally...seems simple to me
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi se whats the point[/p][/quote]Using a cash machine or nipping into a bank is hardly a crime unless you are causing an obstruction or endangering other road users. The point is that councils was using CCTV as nothing more than a cash cow and not to improve safety in any way.[/p][/quote]I was under the impression they were used to catch people parking illegally...seems simple to me allan111111
  • Score: 3

6:08pm Sat 21 Jun 14

mr.mark.c says...

allan111111 wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi



se whats the point
Using a cash machine or nipping into a bank is hardly a crime unless you are causing an obstruction or endangering other road users.
The point is that councils was using CCTV as nothing more than a cash cow and not to improve safety in any way.
I was under the impression they were used to catch people parking illegally...seems simple to me
They was used in places that should never really have restrictions, that was never the intended use when the CCTV laws came into place, most of us would love them to be used in the correct manner, maybe to catch the fools that park on the zig zags outside schools or cause obstructions.
Oh thats right, they changed the law so that is all they can be used for now.
Common sense actually prevailed for once.
[quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi se whats the point[/p][/quote]Using a cash machine or nipping into a bank is hardly a crime unless you are causing an obstruction or endangering other road users. The point is that councils was using CCTV as nothing more than a cash cow and not to improve safety in any way.[/p][/quote]I was under the impression they were used to catch people parking illegally...seems simple to me[/p][/quote]They was used in places that should never really have restrictions, that was never the intended use when the CCTV laws came into place, most of us would love them to be used in the correct manner, maybe to catch the fools that park on the zig zags outside schools or cause obstructions. Oh thats right, they changed the law so that is all they can be used for now. Common sense actually prevailed for once. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Sat 21 Jun 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

Hooray, a victory for the ordinary working people. These covert U-boat smart cars are a menace, they are just there to take people's wages from them. These cameras stop hidden behind other cars conveniently just as the restriction on the parking comes into effect, like at 7am or 4pm nowhere anybody has complained. One parks in a loading bay in town, which is illegal. These cars are just there to make money from the citizens of Bolton to pay for stupid investments like the £80 million which they have used to buy stanstead airport. If they make money from this, will they put it back into the town, no iI dodon't think they will, we will only hear about it when the airport shuts down and they've blown our cash. The council is so out of touch now, they'd rather invest in silly things than look after the town, they could've used that money to keep the zoo at moss bank park or doing up the water place. The worry now iswhat wwill the council do to fill that hole which will be left? Fine us for standing still, walking to slowly, breathing? Bolton council are taking us for a ride.
Hooray, a victory for the ordinary working people. These covert U-boat smart cars are a menace, they are just there to take people's wages from them. These cameras stop hidden behind other cars conveniently just as the restriction on the parking comes into effect, like at 7am or 4pm nowhere anybody has complained. One parks in a loading bay in town, which is illegal. These cars are just there to make money from the citizens of Bolton to pay for stupid investments like the £80 million which they have used to buy stanstead airport. If they make money from this, will they put it back into the town, no iI dodon't think they will, we will only hear about it when the airport shuts down and they've blown our cash. The council is so out of touch now, they'd rather invest in silly things than look after the town, they could've used that money to keep the zoo at moss bank park or doing up the water place. The worry now iswhat wwill the council do to fill that hole which will be left? Fine us for standing still, walking to slowly, breathing? Bolton council are taking us for a ride. renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 14

6:25pm Sat 21 Jun 14

the need for austerity is a myth says...

I for one am sick and tired of having my life endangered as both a motorist and as a pedestrian by inconsiderate, selfish not-rights who think it's ok to pull up where they like "because I'll only be 2 minutes". Anyone and everyone who is opposed to the CCTV cars, or Civil Enforcement Officers, is as much a swivel eyed loon as Eric "butter mountain" Pickles.

Park legally and don't endanger lives = don't get a ticket. Park irresponsibly like a selfish baboon = get ticket, however that ticket may be issued.

Get used to it folks, the law ain't new - and the Highway Code ain't guidance, it's the law.
I for one am sick and tired of having my life endangered as both a motorist and as a pedestrian by inconsiderate, selfish not-rights who think it's ok to pull up where they like "because I'll only be 2 minutes". Anyone and everyone who is opposed to the CCTV cars, or Civil Enforcement Officers, is as much a swivel eyed loon as Eric "butter mountain" Pickles. Park legally and don't endanger lives = don't get a ticket. Park irresponsibly like a selfish baboon = get ticket, however that ticket may be issued. Get used to it folks, the law ain't new - and the Highway Code ain't guidance, it's the law. the need for austerity is a myth
  • Score: 8

6:31pm Sat 21 Jun 14

soup153 says...

tillyflop53 wrote:
I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined !
That one little piece of spyware the council openly owned, must have cost at least £50.000 a year before it broke even. Never in living memory would it have made it's way just on school runs. One nil to the people one nil to the people. One thing to sing about.
[quote][p][bold]tillyflop53[/bold] wrote: I think these are needed near schools. So many lazy, ignorant drivers who think just because they drive Chelsea tractors they can park wherever they want to drop little Jonny of at school not giving a **** that there are yellow lines for a reason !!! i dont have a problem with these cameras because lkets face it fi you park illegally you deserve to be fined ![/p][/quote]That one little piece of spyware the council openly owned, must have cost at least £50.000 a year before it broke even. Never in living memory would it have made it's way just on school runs. One nil to the people one nil to the people. One thing to sing about. soup153
  • Score: -2

6:35pm Sat 21 Jun 14

soup153 says...

Other measures being introduced include trialling a 25 per cent discount for motorists who lose an appeal against a parking ticket and no longer fining drivers parking near broken meters if there is no other way to pay. How about all the maladministration by the parking firms. I would say an act of good measure paying the person who was not it the wrong the sum of the fine plus cost.
Other measures being introduced include trialling a 25 per cent discount for motorists who lose an appeal against a parking ticket and no longer fining drivers parking near broken meters if there is no other way to pay. How about all the maladministration by the parking firms. I would say an act of good measure paying the person who was not it the wrong the sum of the fine plus cost. soup153
  • Score: 2

6:57pm Sat 21 Jun 14

the hand says...

How about this guys we have one troll parked permanently outside our house in his little smart car with the big dick on top and I've got photos of him pointing his camera guess where on traffic no but straight into my front room and into the house across the road won't get many fines from my front room when I confronted the twa he drove off with haste
How about this guys we have one troll parked permanently outside our house in his little smart car with the big dick on top and I've got photos of him pointing his camera guess where on traffic no but straight into my front room and into the house across the road won't get many fines from my front room when I confronted the twa he drove off with haste the hand
  • Score: 8

7:00pm Sat 21 Jun 14

JustBecause says...

allan111111 wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi



se whats the point
Using a cash machine or nipping into a bank is hardly a crime unless you are causing an obstruction or endangering other road users.
The point is that councils was using CCTV as nothing more than a cash cow and not to improve safety in any way.
I was under the impression they were used to catch people parking illegally...seems simple to me
It is that simple your right, what others seem to think is that if you bend the las slightly then that's ok, a cigarette butt, shouldn't be litter, nipping to the bookies or ATM shouldn't be illegal parking.

How about giving someone a small slap is that ok, or having no insurance for just a couple of days, maybe shoplifting should be ok but for stuff less than a £1.

The mind boggles at peoples mentality.
[quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: The council should be able to use all the tools available to them to catch offenders....otherwi se whats the point[/p][/quote]Using a cash machine or nipping into a bank is hardly a crime unless you are causing an obstruction or endangering other road users. The point is that councils was using CCTV as nothing more than a cash cow and not to improve safety in any way.[/p][/quote]I was under the impression they were used to catch people parking illegally...seems simple to me[/p][/quote]It is that simple your right, what others seem to think is that if you bend the las slightly then that's ok, a cigarette butt, shouldn't be litter, nipping to the bookies or ATM shouldn't be illegal parking. How about giving someone a small slap is that ok, or having no insurance for just a couple of days, maybe shoplifting should be ok but for stuff less than a £1. The mind boggles at peoples mentality. JustBecause
  • Score: 3

7:01pm Sat 21 Jun 14

mr.mark.c says...

the need for austerity is a myth wrote:
I for one am sick and tired of having my life endangered as both a motorist and as a pedestrian by inconsiderate, selfish not-rights who think it's ok to pull up where they like "because I'll only be 2 minutes". Anyone and everyone who is opposed to the CCTV cars, or Civil Enforcement Officers, is as much a swivel eyed loon as Eric "butter mountain" Pickles.

Park legally and don't endanger lives = don't get a ticket. Park irresponsibly like a selfish baboon = get ticket, however that ticket may be issued.

Get used to it folks, the law ain't new - and the Highway Code ain't guidance, it's the law.
By that I assume that blue badge holders are endangering your life ?
[quote][p][bold]the need for austerity is a myth[/bold] wrote: I for one am sick and tired of having my life endangered as both a motorist and as a pedestrian by inconsiderate, selfish not-rights who think it's ok to pull up where they like "because I'll only be 2 minutes". Anyone and everyone who is opposed to the CCTV cars, or Civil Enforcement Officers, is as much a swivel eyed loon as Eric "butter mountain" Pickles. Park legally and don't endanger lives = don't get a ticket. Park irresponsibly like a selfish baboon = get ticket, however that ticket may be issued. Get used to it folks, the law ain't new - and the Highway Code ain't guidance, it's the law.[/p][/quote]By that I assume that blue badge holders are endangering your life ? mr.mark.c
  • Score: 2

9:17pm Sat 21 Jun 14

artistpaint says...

Big brother making the rich richer.the higher up the more bent.look at all the **** the gov do.look after your own .spend billions in **** arse countrys let any towrags in.and forget the people that built this place.. what the fks going on.....
Big brother making the rich richer.the higher up the more bent.look at all the **** the gov do.look after your own .spend billions in **** arse countrys let any towrags in.and forget the people that built this place.. what the fks going on..... artistpaint
  • Score: 0

9:21pm Sat 21 Jun 14

artistpaint says...

Big brother making the rich richer.the higher up the more bent.look at all the **** the gov do.look after your own .spend billions in **** arse countrys let any towrags in.and forget the people that built this place.. what the fks going on.....
Big brother making the rich richer.the higher up the more bent.look at all the **** the gov do.look after your own .spend billions in **** arse countrys let any towrags in.and forget the people that built this place.. what the fks going on..... artistpaint
  • Score: 2

4:28am Sun 22 Jun 14

Donkey Stone says...

the need for austerity is a myth wrote:
I for one am sick and tired of having my life endangered as both a motorist and as a pedestrian by inconsiderate, selfish not-rights who think it's ok to pull up where they like "because I'll only be 2 minutes". Anyone and everyone who is opposed to the CCTV cars, or Civil Enforcement Officers, is as much a swivel eyed loon as Eric "butter mountain" Pickles.

Park legally and don't endanger lives = don't get a ticket. Park irresponsibly like a selfish baboon = get ticket, however that ticket may be issued.

Get used to it folks, the law ain't new - and the Highway Code ain't guidance, it's the law.
Wrong. The vast majority of the Highway Code is for guidance. Read it again.
[quote][p][bold]the need for austerity is a myth[/bold] wrote: I for one am sick and tired of having my life endangered as both a motorist and as a pedestrian by inconsiderate, selfish not-rights who think it's ok to pull up where they like "because I'll only be 2 minutes". Anyone and everyone who is opposed to the CCTV cars, or Civil Enforcement Officers, is as much a swivel eyed loon as Eric "butter mountain" Pickles. Park legally and don't endanger lives = don't get a ticket. Park irresponsibly like a selfish baboon = get ticket, however that ticket may be issued. Get used to it folks, the law ain't new - and the Highway Code ain't guidance, it's the law.[/p][/quote]Wrong. The vast majority of the Highway Code is for guidance. Read it again. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 4

12:13pm Sun 22 Jun 14

nosighparker says...

have no worries about ANY parking enforcement or being fined - these cars wouldn't make anybody any cash if drivers parked safely - quite simple park legally no worries - no selfish drivers = no CCTV cars !
have no worries about ANY parking enforcement or being fined - these cars wouldn't make anybody any cash if drivers parked safely - quite simple park legally no worries - no selfish drivers = no CCTV cars ! nosighparker
  • Score: 0

1:46pm Sun 22 Jun 14

dirtyowdtown says...

The car should be used to fine louts chucking litter from their cars. The council would make a ton of money in this filthy mess of a town .
The car should be used to fine louts chucking litter from their cars. The council would make a ton of money in this filthy mess of a town . dirtyowdtown
  • Score: 5

8:14pm Sun 22 Jun 14

JustBecause says...

dirtyowdtown wrote:
The car should be used to fine louts chucking litter from their cars. The council would make a ton of money in this filthy mess of a town .
But you miss the point, if it was used for that, the people condoning the "it's only a couple of minutes while I go to the ATM" will use the same argument, which would be, leave them alone, it's only a burger wrapper, or can of coke, etc, etc.....
[quote][p][bold]dirtyowdtown[/bold] wrote: The car should be used to fine louts chucking litter from their cars. The council would make a ton of money in this filthy mess of a town .[/p][/quote]But you miss the point, if it was used for that, the people condoning the "it's only a couple of minutes while I go to the ATM" will use the same argument, which would be, leave them alone, it's only a burger wrapper, or can of coke, etc, etc..... JustBecause
  • Score: 0

1:19pm Mon 23 Jun 14

cliff4treasurer says...

"Cllr Nick Peel said: “We only ever used the car as a result of requests from members of the public, in areas where problems were being caused for other motorists"

Lies Nick, no one ever reported the cars parking on Halliwell road near the bank just higher up than the Robin Hood pub (as was) while people use the ATM, which causes no problems whatsoever, and I don't use it by the way just pass it everyday on my way to work.

Yet the amount of people on here alone who complain about the cars parked illegally lower down Halliwell road and no traffic wardens or the smart car are ever seen there, and I travel that road every weekday at least twice in either direction, so how do you explain that Nick?

mmmm let me think, shall I answer for you Nick?
"Cllr Nick Peel said: “We only ever used the car as a result of requests from members of the public, in areas where problems were being caused for other motorists" Lies Nick, no one ever reported the cars parking on Halliwell road near the bank just higher up than the Robin Hood pub (as was) while people use the ATM, which causes no problems whatsoever, and I don't use it by the way just pass it everyday on my way to work. Yet the amount of people on here alone who complain about the cars parked illegally lower down Halliwell road and no traffic wardens or the smart car are ever seen there, and I travel that road every weekday at least twice in either direction, so how do you explain that Nick? mmmm let me think, shall I answer for you Nick? cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 4

11:48am Tue 24 Jun 14

Sally-Gunnall says...

fat counciller morris
fat counciller morris Sally-Gunnall
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Ilovebolton says...

Bolton Council is greedy and STUPID.
i once wrote to council to look into having double yellow lines at the junction of Goldsmith Street and Bridgeman Street. Where the bend is and where you got cars parked on all sides. If you have ever used this junction you will know how bad it is. The highway department wrote back saying it was not required and actually having cars was required for slowing cars down. So my question is to Bolton Council why have you spent tax payers money on creating bumps in the middle of the roads. Are these not there for slowing some if not all drivers, but creating a hazard and chance for accident is better. Also why is when roads are resurfaced that bumps become higher and then three months later they are dug up and reduced in size. i.e. like the ones on lever edge lane.
Bolton News i would like you to investigate why nothing has been done with the Junction at Swan Lane Mill, as i believe that driving on white crossed lines is suppose to wrong so why is that at this junction you are being forced on to it.
Bolton Council is greedy and STUPID. i once wrote to council to look into having double yellow lines at the junction of Goldsmith Street and Bridgeman Street. Where the bend is and where you got cars parked on all sides. If you have ever used this junction you will know how bad it is. The highway department wrote back saying it was not required and actually having cars was required for slowing cars down. So my question is to Bolton Council why have you spent tax payers money on creating bumps in the middle of the roads. Are these not there for slowing some if not all drivers, but creating a hazard and chance for accident is better. Also why is when roads are resurfaced that bumps become higher and then three months later they are dug up and reduced in size. i.e. like the ones on lever edge lane. Bolton News i would like you to investigate why nothing has been done with the Junction at Swan Lane Mill, as i believe that driving on white crossed lines is suppose to wrong so why is that at this junction you are being forced on to it. Ilovebolton
  • Score: 0

6:00pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Ilovebolton says...

These smart cars cause traffic rather making it flow. At peak times they are sat on Derby Street and causing traffic to go to one lane rather than letting it flow and having two lane two drive.
These smart cars cause traffic rather making it flow. At peak times they are sat on Derby Street and causing traffic to go to one lane rather than letting it flow and having two lane two drive. Ilovebolton
  • Score: 1

9:00pm Wed 25 Jun 14

holloway_david says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.
These cars are only to protect bus markings outside schools but any other road issues such as parents parking on street corners and blindsiding entrance and exit of side roads is totally ignored. Seemingly the flow of traffic on bus routes is considered important but safety is not and should be included after all there are never any Police Officers on duty.
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.[/p][/quote]These cars are only to protect bus markings outside schools but any other road issues such as parents parking on street corners and blindsiding entrance and exit of side roads is totally ignored. Seemingly the flow of traffic on bus routes is considered important but safety is not and should be included after all there are never any Police Officers on duty. holloway_david
  • Score: 1

9:53pm Wed 25 Jun 14

mr.mark.c says...

holloway_david wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.
These cars are only to protect bus markings outside schools but any other road issues such as parents parking on street corners and blindsiding entrance and exit of side roads is totally ignored. Seemingly the flow of traffic on bus routes is considered important but safety is not and should be included after all there are never any Police Officers on duty.
The Police are far to busy doing paperwork for all the anti-social problems they get called out to, and parking is the duty of traffic Police not local area Police or PCSO's, and Traffic are normally busy with dealing with upside down cars these days.
School teachers should be able to ticket cars outside schools rather than just send a letter to the parent.
[quote][p][bold]holloway_david[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.[/p][/quote]These cars are only to protect bus markings outside schools but any other road issues such as parents parking on street corners and blindsiding entrance and exit of side roads is totally ignored. Seemingly the flow of traffic on bus routes is considered important but safety is not and should be included after all there are never any Police Officers on duty.[/p][/quote]The Police are far to busy doing paperwork for all the anti-social problems they get called out to, and parking is the duty of traffic Police not local area Police or PCSO's, and Traffic are normally busy with dealing with upside down cars these days. School teachers should be able to ticket cars outside schools rather than just send a letter to the parent. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 0

3:00pm Thu 26 Jun 14

holloway_david says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
holloway_david wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.
These cars are only to protect bus markings outside schools but any other road issues such as parents parking on street corners and blindsiding entrance and exit of side roads is totally ignored. Seemingly the flow of traffic on bus routes is considered important but safety is not and should be included after all there are never any Police Officers on duty.
The Police are far to busy doing paperwork for all the anti-social problems they get called out to, and parking is the duty of traffic Police not local area Police or PCSO's, and Traffic are normally busy with dealing with upside down cars these days.
School teachers should be able to ticket cars outside schools rather than just send a letter to the parent.
Teachers then would have a safety problem of their own in retribution .
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holloway_david[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.[/p][/quote]These cars are only to protect bus markings outside schools but any other road issues such as parents parking on street corners and blindsiding entrance and exit of side roads is totally ignored. Seemingly the flow of traffic on bus routes is considered important but safety is not and should be included after all there are never any Police Officers on duty.[/p][/quote]The Police are far to busy doing paperwork for all the anti-social problems they get called out to, and parking is the duty of traffic Police not local area Police or PCSO's, and Traffic are normally busy with dealing with upside down cars these days. School teachers should be able to ticket cars outside schools rather than just send a letter to the parent.[/p][/quote]Teachers then would have a safety problem of their own in retribution . holloway_david
  • Score: 2

12:11pm Sat 28 Jun 14

mark foley says...

My god , i did not know that !!!!

i thought it was used to look for muggers and shop lifters and pickpockets

i never knew it was used to catch the very dangerous and psychopathic criminal car owners .........what a dangerous job the council have been doing
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.................. NOT ....................
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My god , i did not know that !!!! i thought it was used to look for muggers and shop lifters and pickpockets i never knew it was used to catch the very dangerous and psychopathic criminal car owners .........what a dangerous job the council have been doing .................... .................. NOT .................... .............. mark foley
  • Score: 0

11:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

mr.mark.c says...

holloway_david wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
holloway_david wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.
These cars are only to protect bus markings outside schools but any other road issues such as parents parking on street corners and blindsiding entrance and exit of side roads is totally ignored. Seemingly the flow of traffic on bus routes is considered important but safety is not and should be included after all there are never any Police Officers on duty.
The Police are far to busy doing paperwork for all the anti-social problems they get called out to, and parking is the duty of traffic Police not local area Police or PCSO's, and Traffic are normally busy with dealing with upside down cars these days.
School teachers should be able to ticket cars outside schools rather than just send a letter to the parent.
Teachers then would have a safety problem of their own in retribution .
That sounds like a threat from a person that thinks its fine to park outside schools.
[quote][p][bold]holloway_david[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holloway_david[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: It clearly states that they can still be used near Schools so maybe now they will do so.[/p][/quote]These cars are only to protect bus markings outside schools but any other road issues such as parents parking on street corners and blindsiding entrance and exit of side roads is totally ignored. Seemingly the flow of traffic on bus routes is considered important but safety is not and should be included after all there are never any Police Officers on duty.[/p][/quote]The Police are far to busy doing paperwork for all the anti-social problems they get called out to, and parking is the duty of traffic Police not local area Police or PCSO's, and Traffic are normally busy with dealing with upside down cars these days. School teachers should be able to ticket cars outside schools rather than just send a letter to the parent.[/p][/quote]Teachers then would have a safety problem of their own in retribution .[/p][/quote]That sounds like a threat from a person that thinks its fine to park outside schools. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 0

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