Local elections 2014 - the rundown

Local elections 2014 - the rundown

Local elections 2014 - the rundown

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THE battlelines have been drawn for this year’s local elections.

Candidates from across the political spectrum will be vying for the public’s votes on Thursday, May 22 — the same day as the European elections.

Labour currently runs the council with 41 councillors, against 16 Conservatives and three Liberal Democrats, and will be looking to strengthen its grip on the town.

As well as the mainstream political parties, UKIP will field a candidate in every seat for the first time.

Also on the ballot are the Greens — contesting 16 seats — plus independent candidates in Kearsley, Westhoughton North, Crompton, Halliwell and Great Lever.

The BNP and Left Union will also stand in Tonge with the Haulgh, and the English Democrats in Westhoughton South .

Leading politicians from all sides are facing re-election, including Labour cabinet members Nick Peel, Sufrana Ismail and Kevin McKeon, while leader of the Tories David Greenhalgh, deputy leader Andy Morgan and former leader John Walsh also find their names on the ballot.

Two seats are up for grabs in the Horwich and Blackrod ward, following the resignation of Labour councillor Lindsey Kell.

Meanwhile Westhoughton North and Chew Moor will also be a big fight— where current Tory education spokesman Cllr Martyn Cox faces strong campaigning from Labour, which is looking to get its third candidate into the ward.

Liberal Democrat councillor Anthony Radlett has decided not to seek re-election in Smithills, opening up a seat in the traditional liberal stronghold.

And Peter McGeehan, a former Mayor who has been a member of Labour and the Liberal Democrats in the past, will stand for UKIP in Horwich north east.

The returning officer this year is Sean Harriss, chief executive of Bolton Council.

Polls will open across Bolton on May 22, with the count starting at 10pm at night.

CLLR CLIFF MORRIS - LABOUR

Labour say this month’s local elections is theirs to win — but they are not pulling any punches.

The ruling party is looking to squeeze its opposition by taking key marginal seats off the Conservatives and Lib Dems.

Leader of Labour and Bolton Council Cllr Cliff Morris added the party is not underestimating the presence of UKIP in the hustings.

He added: “It is our year. I’m pleased with the team we’ve got, we’ve got that balance of age, of women and minorities and that is important.

“We’re not worried about UKIP, we know they are a force to be reckoned with and I think we’ve got the policies to match that.

“I’m not saying we should wipe out the opposition, but if they’ve gone back on their word then it’s up to them. You’ve got to keep your promises.”

CLLR DAVID GREENHALGH - CONSERVATIVES

The stakes are high for the Conservative group this year, as key members of the party face re-election.

Six of the 16 Tory councillors are on the ballot paper this May, including the group’s leader and deputy leader.

Leader of the Conservatives, Cllr David Greenhalgh, who is standing for re-election in Bromley Cross, acknowledged that the unprecedented UKIP presence could make things difficult for the Tories.

He added: “All we can hope for is that people will vote for candidates and parties on their local agendas, and not be tempted to vote on national issues.

“We have hard working councillors, who are known locally and they can be judge on their records locally — and I’d ask UKIP what their policies are for Bolton.

“If people want to risk waking up to a Labour council, that’s what they are doing if they vote UKIP.”

CLLR ROGER HAYES - LIBERAL DEMOCRATS

Liberal Democrats in Bolton say they are ready for a fight in the upcoming ‘tough’ election.

While the group ran the council in 2006, in recent years numbers have dwindled.

There are just three Lib Dems candidates, all in Smithills, left in the council chamber.

Cllr Roger Hayes, leader of the group, said he believes they have a good chance of retaining Smithills with 22-year-old candidate Andrew Martin, a Cambridge law graduate, after standing councillor Anthony Radlett steps down.

He added: “I think it’s going to be a tough election, as they always are when you are in government.

“We always put up a challenge in Horwich North East and in Westhoughton South, and I also think we will make an advance in Little Lever.

“The big unknown is what UKIP will do, but I think it will be very different in different ward.

“People should vote for the Lib Dems because we presented a very sensible budget which included a £3m investment in roads, a review of the number of councillors — and we’re the only party to stand up for the green belt, particularly over the great issue of Smithills Coaching House.”

JOAN JOHNSON - UKIP

In a year where Nigel Farage has dominated the national headlines, the Bolton branch of UKIP is hoping to shake up the mainstream parties in the town.

UKIP has put forward the most candidates ever for this year’s local elections, with a potential councillor standing in every seat.

Previously Paul Nuttall, UKIP MEP, said in a visit to Farnworth there was a ‘unique’ opportunity for the party in Bolton as people also cast their votes in the European elections at the same time.

Chairman Joan Johnson, who is standing in Westhoughton North and Chew Moor, said she was excited for polling day and the party hopes to have “at least” three people elected.

She added: “What we’re saying for Bolton is that we feel that Labour have lost this town — it’s not the town that I came to 40 odd years ago.

“If elected we would say to the people of Bolton — what do you want, what is right for this town?

“It’s about bringing the heart back into the town centre, revitalising it again, and looking at reducing the business rates for businesses.”

ALAN JOHNSON - GREEN PARTY

No fracking, a 20mph zone in all residential areas across Bolton and continued campaigning against austerity measures are the main platforms for the Green Party this May 22.

Alan Johnson, chairman of the party and standing to be a councillor in Rumworth, said the Greens represent an alternative to all the other parties — including UKIP.

He added: “We are opposed to the austerity measures brought in by the coalition government, and in some ways supported by Labour unfortunately — and UKIP aren’t against them either.

“Locally you won’t find another party totally opposing fracking in Bolton, we have nailed our colours to the mast quite clearly on that.

“We’ve also campaigned over the last few years to introduce 20mph in residential areas across Bolton, something which Labour are dragging their feet over because of the cost.

“This is the most we’ve ever stood at a local elections. Thousands of people now have the chance to vote for an alternative to other parties, and we’re hoping to get more MEPs elected this time too.”

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7:11am Sat 26 Apr 14

oftbewildered2 says...

well that is a good cross section of manifestos - let the people decide, not just this year, but at the next two local elections too.
well that is a good cross section of manifestos - let the people decide, not just this year, but at the next two local elections too. oftbewildered2
  • Score: 11

8:07am Sat 26 Apr 14

GCD1950 says...

From the list I hope at least one of the political parties will be discussing their plans to improve pollution in Bolton
Some quick wins that would attract my vote include
1 ban ice cream vans that need engines running to serve ice cream from parking outside of schools and public events, a by law would sort this.
2 similar for buses parked up with engines running,

These two initiatives would improve our local air and would be a step in the right direction to reducing harmful diesel fumes that are known to affect people in particular children
From the list I hope at least one of the political parties will be discussing their plans to improve pollution in Bolton Some quick wins that would attract my vote include 1 ban ice cream vans that need engines running to serve ice cream from parking outside of schools and public events, a by law would sort this. 2 similar for buses parked up with engines running, These two initiatives would improve our local air and would be a step in the right direction to reducing harmful diesel fumes that are known to affect people in particular children GCD1950
  • Score: -4

8:41am Sat 26 Apr 14

wsw69 says...

As a Labour voter I MOST CERTAINLY WILL NOT be voting for Cliff 'The Stiff' Morris & Co. I would prefer to saw both my legs off!

If the Fat Controller should see this, then it's about time he got the message. You are whole heartedly hated with a passion by many Labour voters. You and your greedy and questionable cronies have completely ruined this once wonderful town.

I certainly will not be voting for the moral less Tories, nor the none starters of the Lib-Dems.

Mr Farage and Co are getting my vote in these local and European elections.

To Morris and Co, wake up and smell the coffee. I hope you lot are voted out on the 22nd May. You have been an absolute Grade One disaster for Bolton. No one could have ruined Bolton like you lot have. Good riddance to the lot of you arrogant smug morons.
As a Labour voter I MOST CERTAINLY WILL NOT be voting for Cliff 'The Stiff' Morris & Co. I would prefer to saw both my legs off! If the Fat Controller should see this, then it's about time he got the message. You are whole heartedly hated with a passion by many Labour voters. You and your greedy and questionable cronies have completely ruined this once wonderful town. I certainly will not be voting for the moral less Tories, nor the none starters of the Lib-Dems. Mr Farage and Co are getting my vote in these local and European elections. To Morris and Co, wake up and smell the coffee. I hope you lot are voted out on the 22nd May. You have been an absolute Grade One disaster for Bolton. No one could have ruined Bolton like you lot have. Good riddance to the lot of you arrogant smug morons. wsw69
  • Score: 27

8:45am Sat 26 Apr 14

Changing times says...

Please ensure Cllr Peel does not get elected again, between him and Morris I'm not sure who is worse and more responsible for Bolton's decline.
Please ensure Cllr Peel does not get elected again, between him and Morris I'm not sure who is worse and more responsible for Bolton's decline. Changing times
  • Score: 13

8:46am Sat 26 Apr 14

Hollieanne says...

Cliff Morris '....but if they've gone back on their word it's up to them. You've got to keep your promises.' You couldn't make it up could you? Bins, the state of the town, the rise in council tax, etc. Why does anyone vote for these clowns?
Cliff Morris '....but if they've gone back on their word it's up to them. You've got to keep your promises.' You couldn't make it up could you? Bins, the state of the town, the rise in council tax, etc. Why does anyone vote for these clowns? Hollieanne
  • Score: 18

8:47am Sat 26 Apr 14

wsw69 says...

Changing times wrote:
Please ensure Cllr Peel does not get elected again, between him and Morris I'm not sure who is worse and more responsible for Bolton's decline.
The whole lot of them are responsible. They are a complete shambles from top to bottom. Bolton would be better run with no one in charge.
[quote][p][bold]Changing times[/bold] wrote: Please ensure Cllr Peel does not get elected again, between him and Morris I'm not sure who is worse and more responsible for Bolton's decline.[/p][/quote]The whole lot of them are responsible. They are a complete shambles from top to bottom. Bolton would be better run with no one in charge. wsw69
  • Score: 6

9:42am Sat 26 Apr 14

Manuel Hung says...

I'm not usually a 'political' person but UKIP is getting my vote this time.

They seem to be the only people prepared to say what the others won't. So for that reason I'm in!
I'm not usually a 'political' person but UKIP is getting my vote this time. They seem to be the only people prepared to say what the others won't. So for that reason I'm in! Manuel Hung
  • Score: 17

9:54am Sat 26 Apr 14

Valiant One says...

wsw69 wrote:
As a Labour voter I MOST CERTAINLY WILL NOT be voting for Cliff 'The Stiff' Morris & Co. I would prefer to saw both my legs off!

If the Fat Controller should see this, then it's about time he got the message. You are whole heartedly hated with a passion by many Labour voters. You and your greedy and questionable cronies have completely ruined this once wonderful town.

I certainly will not be voting for the moral less Tories, nor the none starters of the Lib-Dems.

Mr Farage and Co are getting my vote in these local and European elections.

To Morris and Co, wake up and smell the coffee. I hope you lot are voted out on the 22nd May. You have been an absolute Grade One disaster for Bolton. No one could have ruined Bolton like you lot have. Good riddance to the lot of you arrogant smug morons.
Be careful what you wish for when you vote UKIP
NHS sold off to the highest bidder
End of maternity/ paternity rights. End of minimum wage, legal entitlement to paid holidays etc etc
Tory Central government have taken £100 million from Boltons budgets. This is what you should be campaigning against not Labour who are struggling to protect the most vulnerable in our town with only a £2 or £3 month increase in council tax. Tory policy to make Northern towns poorer. Increasingly the north/south divide goes on and the Tories couldn't give a toss.
[quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: As a Labour voter I MOST CERTAINLY WILL NOT be voting for Cliff 'The Stiff' Morris & Co. I would prefer to saw both my legs off! If the Fat Controller should see this, then it's about time he got the message. You are whole heartedly hated with a passion by many Labour voters. You and your greedy and questionable cronies have completely ruined this once wonderful town. I certainly will not be voting for the moral less Tories, nor the none starters of the Lib-Dems. Mr Farage and Co are getting my vote in these local and European elections. To Morris and Co, wake up and smell the coffee. I hope you lot are voted out on the 22nd May. You have been an absolute Grade One disaster for Bolton. No one could have ruined Bolton like you lot have. Good riddance to the lot of you arrogant smug morons.[/p][/quote]Be careful what you wish for when you vote UKIP NHS sold off to the highest bidder End of maternity/ paternity rights. End of minimum wage, legal entitlement to paid holidays etc etc Tory Central government have taken £100 million from Boltons budgets. This is what you should be campaigning against not Labour who are struggling to protect the most vulnerable in our town with only a £2 or £3 month increase in council tax. Tory policy to make Northern towns poorer. Increasingly the north/south divide goes on and the Tories couldn't give a toss. Valiant One
  • Score: -38

10:32am Sat 26 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

Cliff Morris " You’ve got to keep your promises.” He's hard faced, I'll give him that.
"Valiant One", no mention of the mess Labour created that led to the cuts - or Bolton Councils £90 million 'refund' from the Icelandic banks it "wisely" invested in and still despite sitting on a cash mountain, the Council itself along with it's Union masters attack the vulnerable, attack leisure services and even its future voters by the closure of animal world - why is that? Are you another with his head buried in the sand, fingers in his ears because that's the reality.
Labour in Bolton single handedly set about the Town's destruction against most of the peoples wishes - all decisions that are now coming back to haunt them - way before the Tories regained power. If you can produce any success stories of the Labour group in Bolton, please post them here.
Voting Labour in Bolton is a vote for continued autocratic rule.
Cliff Morris " You’ve got to keep your promises.” He's hard faced, I'll give him that. "Valiant One", no mention of the mess Labour created that led to the cuts - or Bolton Councils £90 million 'refund' from the Icelandic banks it "wisely" invested in and still despite sitting on a cash mountain, the Council itself along with it's Union masters attack the vulnerable, attack leisure services and even its future voters by the closure of animal world - why is that? Are you another with his head buried in the sand, fingers in his ears because that's the reality. Labour in Bolton single handedly set about the Town's destruction against most of the peoples wishes - all decisions that are now coming back to haunt them - way before the Tories regained power. If you can produce any success stories of the Labour group in Bolton, please post them here. Voting Labour in Bolton is a vote for continued autocratic rule. Tim Burr
  • Score: 8

11:33am Sat 26 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Valiant One wrote:
wsw69 wrote:
As a Labour voter I MOST CERTAINLY WILL NOT be voting for Cliff 'The Stiff' Morris & Co. I would prefer to saw both my legs off!

If the Fat Controller should see this, then it's about time he got the message. You are whole heartedly hated with a passion by many Labour voters. You and your greedy and questionable cronies have completely ruined this once wonderful town.

I certainly will not be voting for the moral less Tories, nor the none starters of the Lib-Dems.

Mr Farage and Co are getting my vote in these local and European elections.

To Morris and Co, wake up and smell the coffee. I hope you lot are voted out on the 22nd May. You have been an absolute Grade One disaster for Bolton. No one could have ruined Bolton like you lot have. Good riddance to the lot of you arrogant smug morons.
Be careful what you wish for when you vote UKIP
NHS sold off to the highest bidder
End of maternity/ paternity rights. End of minimum wage, legal entitlement to paid holidays etc etc
Tory Central government have taken £100 million from Boltons budgets. This is what you should be campaigning against not Labour who are struggling to protect the most vulnerable in our town with only a £2 or £3 month increase in council tax. Tory policy to make Northern towns poorer. Increasingly the north/south divide goes on and the Tories couldn't give a toss.
All wrong as the manifesto is not published yet as are none of the other ones. It will be after the Euros. Same old scare storys as usual. The more they fear the more they smear.
[quote][p][bold]Valiant One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: As a Labour voter I MOST CERTAINLY WILL NOT be voting for Cliff 'The Stiff' Morris & Co. I would prefer to saw both my legs off! If the Fat Controller should see this, then it's about time he got the message. You are whole heartedly hated with a passion by many Labour voters. You and your greedy and questionable cronies have completely ruined this once wonderful town. I certainly will not be voting for the moral less Tories, nor the none starters of the Lib-Dems. Mr Farage and Co are getting my vote in these local and European elections. To Morris and Co, wake up and smell the coffee. I hope you lot are voted out on the 22nd May. You have been an absolute Grade One disaster for Bolton. No one could have ruined Bolton like you lot have. Good riddance to the lot of you arrogant smug morons.[/p][/quote]Be careful what you wish for when you vote UKIP NHS sold off to the highest bidder End of maternity/ paternity rights. End of minimum wage, legal entitlement to paid holidays etc etc Tory Central government have taken £100 million from Boltons budgets. This is what you should be campaigning against not Labour who are struggling to protect the most vulnerable in our town with only a £2 or £3 month increase in council tax. Tory policy to make Northern towns poorer. Increasingly the north/south divide goes on and the Tories couldn't give a toss.[/p][/quote]All wrong as the manifesto is not published yet as are none of the other ones. It will be after the Euros. Same old scare storys as usual. The more they fear the more they smear. thomas222
  • Score: 5

11:38am Sat 26 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Morris is just another Ostrich with his head in the sand. UKIP will take some of their seats & next election will take the Council. People are tired with the same old three playing the same old party games on the backs of tax payers as always.
Morris is just another Ostrich with his head in the sand. UKIP will take some of their seats & next election will take the Council. People are tired with the same old three playing the same old party games on the backs of tax payers as always. thomas222
  • Score: 14

1:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Hollieanne says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Cliff Morris " You’ve got to keep your promises.” He's hard faced, I'll give him that. "Valiant One", no mention of the mess Labour created that led to the cuts - or Bolton Councils £90 million 'refund' from the Icelandic banks it "wisely" invested in and still despite sitting on a cash mountain, the Council itself along with it's Union masters attack the vulnerable, attack leisure services and even its future voters by the closure of animal world - why is that? Are you another with his head buried in the sand, fingers in his ears because that's the reality. Labour in Bolton single handedly set about the Town's destruction against most of the peoples wishes - all decisions that are now coming back to haunt them - way before the Tories regained power. If you can produce any success stories of the Labour group in Bolton, please post them here. Voting Labour in Bolton is a vote for continued autocratic rule.
Well said
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Cliff Morris " You’ve got to keep your promises.” He's hard faced, I'll give him that. "Valiant One", no mention of the mess Labour created that led to the cuts - or Bolton Councils £90 million 'refund' from the Icelandic banks it "wisely" invested in and still despite sitting on a cash mountain, the Council itself along with it's Union masters attack the vulnerable, attack leisure services and even its future voters by the closure of animal world - why is that? Are you another with his head buried in the sand, fingers in his ears because that's the reality. Labour in Bolton single handedly set about the Town's destruction against most of the peoples wishes - all decisions that are now coming back to haunt them - way before the Tories regained power. If you can produce any success stories of the Labour group in Bolton, please post them here. Voting Labour in Bolton is a vote for continued autocratic rule.[/p][/quote]Well said Hollieanne
  • Score: 11

2:45pm Sat 26 Apr 14

holloway_david says...

We need to reduce Labour control of this council and send a " vote of no confidence" message to them.
I will be voting UKIP.
For those people who stated this Labour council has struggled to maintain services and protect the vulnerable because of national government cuts, they still had the opportunity to freeze council tax and take a million offered by government plus surplus from their own coffers; we have all become vulnerable due to Morris and the rest of his seemingly inept team of councillors.
Has anybody noticed that when Morris says to Labour members " Jump" they say "How High"
We need to reduce Labour control of this council and send a " vote of no confidence" message to them. I will be voting UKIP. For those people who stated this Labour council has struggled to maintain services and protect the vulnerable because of national government cuts, they still had the opportunity to freeze council tax and take a million offered by government plus surplus from their own coffers; we have all become vulnerable due to Morris and the rest of his seemingly inept team of councillors. Has anybody noticed that when Morris says to Labour members " Jump" they say "How High" holloway_david
  • Score: 11

6:15pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Valiant One says...

Labour did not create the WORLD economic crisis. Tories crow about the recovery. They have taken froom the poor to give to the rich. They have created a nation where all too many have had to have help from food banks. Even working people. Jobs created are zero contracts or part time. Moss Bank park animal world closure is one casualty of council budget cuts caused by the Tory government demanding only essential services be saved. Does no one see that almost all towns in the north west are suffering closure of shops and cuts in services?
Labour did not create the WORLD economic crisis. Tories crow about the recovery. They have taken froom the poor to give to the rich. They have created a nation where all too many have had to have help from food banks. Even working people. Jobs created are zero contracts or part time. Moss Bank park animal world closure is one casualty of council budget cuts caused by the Tory government demanding only essential services be saved. Does no one see that almost all towns in the north west are suffering closure of shops and cuts in services? Valiant One
  • Score: -28

9:01pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Rivington_Pike says...

Shame the only socialist party standing get their name wrongly published .... Left Union? My arse as someone once said.
Shame the only socialist party standing get their name wrongly published .... Left Union? My arse as someone once said. Rivington_Pike
  • Score: 7

9:42pm Sat 26 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Hollieanne wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Cliff Morris " You’ve got to keep your promises.” He's hard faced, I'll give him that. "Valiant One", no mention of the mess Labour created that led to the cuts - or Bolton Councils £90 million 'refund' from the Icelandic banks it "wisely" invested in and still despite sitting on a cash mountain, the Council itself along with it's Union masters attack the vulnerable, attack leisure services and even its future voters by the closure of animal world - why is that? Are you another with his head buried in the sand, fingers in his ears because that's the reality. Labour in Bolton single handedly set about the Town's destruction against most of the peoples wishes - all decisions that are now coming back to haunt them - way before the Tories regained power. If you can produce any success stories of the Labour group in Bolton, please post them here. Voting Labour in Bolton is a vote for continued autocratic rule.
Well said
What then means nothing now. UKIP will shock this Country we are taking it back. Liebor are finished.
[quote][p][bold]Hollieanne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Cliff Morris " You’ve got to keep your promises.” He's hard faced, I'll give him that. "Valiant One", no mention of the mess Labour created that led to the cuts - or Bolton Councils £90 million 'refund' from the Icelandic banks it "wisely" invested in and still despite sitting on a cash mountain, the Council itself along with it's Union masters attack the vulnerable, attack leisure services and even its future voters by the closure of animal world - why is that? Are you another with his head buried in the sand, fingers in his ears because that's the reality. Labour in Bolton single handedly set about the Town's destruction against most of the peoples wishes - all decisions that are now coming back to haunt them - way before the Tories regained power. If you can produce any success stories of the Labour group in Bolton, please post them here. Voting Labour in Bolton is a vote for continued autocratic rule.[/p][/quote]Well said[/p][/quote]What then means nothing now. UKIP will shock this Country we are taking it back. Liebor are finished. thomas222
  • Score: 7

8:57am Sun 27 Apr 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

Unless the people of Bolton get off their backsides and vote all the above comments are pretty irrelevant. The Labour electoral machine will make sure that their core voters vote and with a usual turnout of @25% they will be returned, make no mistake.
Its up to the rest of the electorate to do their duty this time and make the effort, a 50% turnout should send Morris and his cronies packing.
I'm voting for change so UKIP gets my vote.
Unless the people of Bolton get off their backsides and vote all the above comments are pretty irrelevant. The Labour electoral machine will make sure that their core voters vote and with a usual turnout of @25% they will be returned, make no mistake. Its up to the rest of the electorate to do their duty this time and make the effort, a 50% turnout should send Morris and his cronies packing. I'm voting for change so UKIP gets my vote. Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: 12

11:15am Sun 27 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

Valiant One wrote:
Labour did not create the WORLD economic crisis. Tories crow about the recovery. They have taken froom the poor to give to the rich. They have created a nation where all too many have had to have help from food banks. Even working people. Jobs created are zero contracts or part time. Moss Bank park animal world closure is one casualty of council budget cuts caused by the Tory government demanding only essential services be saved. Does no one see that almost all towns in the north west are suffering closure of shops and cuts in services?
Good to see you couldn't produce any success stories from Bolton's Labour Mafia.

Of course Labour didn't create it, they just encouraged people to borrow money they couldn't afford to repay, after all Prescott did say "we're all middle class" as he systematically destroyed communities via his Pathfinder scheme - creating more slums in the process. Better not mention Iraq - you'll be claiming that never happened too or it was a Tory plot.

There are not enough pages available to mention just a few of Labour's failures of how it's shafted people and communities, each time leading the country to near bankruptcy only then for the Tories to pick up the pieces and replenish the coffers - so of course the one's who can least afford to 'pay' suffer most, it's just a pity many don't realise it only to 'vote' for the cycle to begin again.

Labour, the original nasty party make sure the pots are empty - history proves this.
[quote][p][bold]Valiant One[/bold] wrote: Labour did not create the WORLD economic crisis. Tories crow about the recovery. They have taken froom the poor to give to the rich. They have created a nation where all too many have had to have help from food banks. Even working people. Jobs created are zero contracts or part time. Moss Bank park animal world closure is one casualty of council budget cuts caused by the Tory government demanding only essential services be saved. Does no one see that almost all towns in the north west are suffering closure of shops and cuts in services?[/p][/quote]Good to see you couldn't produce any success stories from Bolton's Labour Mafia. Of course Labour didn't create it, they just encouraged people to borrow money they couldn't afford to repay, after all Prescott did say "we're all middle class" as he systematically destroyed communities via his Pathfinder scheme - creating more slums in the process. Better not mention Iraq - you'll be claiming that never happened too or it was a Tory plot. There are not enough pages available to mention just a few of Labour's failures of how it's shafted people and communities, each time leading the country to near bankruptcy only then for the Tories to pick up the pieces and replenish the coffers - so of course the one's who can least afford to 'pay' suffer most, it's just a pity many don't realise it only to 'vote' for the cycle to begin again. Labour, the original nasty party make sure the pots are empty - history proves this. Tim Burr
  • Score: -17

11:20am Sun 27 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

Maybe somebody would like to defend this Labour legacy?

"Pathfinder was nothing but a monumentus destruction of our social housing.

After making thousands of families homeless and or taking mortgages they couldn't afford and systematically destroying working class communities, Pathfinders legacy is peoples homes been sold for just £1"

Peoples homes for £1.00 - homes..
Maybe somebody would like to defend this Labour legacy? "Pathfinder was nothing but a monumentus destruction of our social housing. After making thousands of families homeless and or taking mortgages they couldn't afford and systematically destroying working class communities, Pathfinders legacy is peoples homes been sold for just £1" Peoples homes for £1.00 - homes.. Tim Burr
  • Score: -12

9:45pm Sun 27 Apr 14

holloway_david says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Valiant One wrote:
Labour did not create the WORLD economic crisis. Tories crow about the recovery. They have taken froom the poor to give to the rich. They have created a nation where all too many have had to have help from food banks. Even working people. Jobs created are zero contracts or part time. Moss Bank park animal world closure is one casualty of council budget cuts caused by the Tory government demanding only essential services be saved. Does no one see that almost all towns in the north west are suffering closure of shops and cuts in services?
Good to see you couldn't produce any success stories from Bolton's Labour Mafia.

Of course Labour didn't create it, they just encouraged people to borrow money they couldn't afford to repay, after all Prescott did say "we're all middle class" as he systematically destroyed communities via his Pathfinder scheme - creating more slums in the process. Better not mention Iraq - you'll be claiming that never happened too or it was a Tory plot.

There are not enough pages available to mention just a few of Labour's failures of how it's shafted people and communities, each time leading the country to near bankruptcy only then for the Tories to pick up the pieces and replenish the coffers - so of course the one's who can least afford to 'pay' suffer most, it's just a pity many don't realise it only to 'vote' for the cycle to begin again.

Labour, the original nasty party make sure the pots are empty - history proves this.
The Bankers Cheating Party caused the economic crisis along with Labour helping themselves to a pot of borrowed money to implement Gordon Brown policy and because of both, has encouraged the Scrooge Party to introduce local government cuts and in turn encouraged Councillor Morris demanding his ruling council take more hard earned money off the people of Bolton by increasing the council tax when there were other options. We get less for more from all of them, so what is the difference between them . The answer is absolutely NOTHING. I will be voting for UKIP in local and European elections hoping they can give the people a fairer deal .
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Valiant One[/bold] wrote: Labour did not create the WORLD economic crisis. Tories crow about the recovery. They have taken froom the poor to give to the rich. They have created a nation where all too many have had to have help from food banks. Even working people. Jobs created are zero contracts or part time. Moss Bank park animal world closure is one casualty of council budget cuts caused by the Tory government demanding only essential services be saved. Does no one see that almost all towns in the north west are suffering closure of shops and cuts in services?[/p][/quote]Good to see you couldn't produce any success stories from Bolton's Labour Mafia. Of course Labour didn't create it, they just encouraged people to borrow money they couldn't afford to repay, after all Prescott did say "we're all middle class" as he systematically destroyed communities via his Pathfinder scheme - creating more slums in the process. Better not mention Iraq - you'll be claiming that never happened too or it was a Tory plot. There are not enough pages available to mention just a few of Labour's failures of how it's shafted people and communities, each time leading the country to near bankruptcy only then for the Tories to pick up the pieces and replenish the coffers - so of course the one's who can least afford to 'pay' suffer most, it's just a pity many don't realise it only to 'vote' for the cycle to begin again. Labour, the original nasty party make sure the pots are empty - history proves this.[/p][/quote]The Bankers Cheating Party caused the economic crisis along with Labour helping themselves to a pot of borrowed money to implement Gordon Brown policy and because of both, has encouraged the Scrooge Party to introduce local government cuts and in turn encouraged Councillor Morris demanding his ruling council take more hard earned money off the people of Bolton by increasing the council tax when there were other options. We get less for more from all of them, so what is the difference between them . The answer is absolutely NOTHING. I will be voting for UKIP in local and European elections hoping they can give the people a fairer deal . holloway_david
  • Score: -9

11:44pm Sun 27 Apr 14

DavidSmeth says...

You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.
You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it. DavidSmeth
  • Score: -18

7:28am Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

DavidSmeth wrote:
You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.
First thing UKIP would do is not have spent 8.5 Million on the Town Hall. Other than then its UKIPS policy to ask the Electorate what THEY want not what UKIP want. All UKIP Cllrs where humanly possible live in the area representing & if not as close as possible. Same local MPs will also local & not shipped in as the others do.
[quote][p][bold]DavidSmeth[/bold] wrote: You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.[/p][/quote]First thing UKIP would do is not have spent 8.5 Million on the Town Hall. Other than then its UKIPS policy to ask the Electorate what THEY want not what UKIP want. All UKIP Cllrs where humanly possible live in the area representing & if not as close as possible. Same local MPs will also local & not shipped in as the others do. thomas222
  • Score: 17

8:12am Mon 28 Apr 14

DavidSmeth says...

thomas222 wrote:
DavidSmeth wrote:
You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.
First thing UKIP would do is not have spent 8.5 Million on the Town Hall. Other than then its UKIPS policy to ask the Electorate what THEY want not what UKIP want. All UKIP Cllrs where humanly possible live in the area representing & if not as close as possible. Same local MPs will also local & not shipped in as the others do.
Well that's simply not true. Most of the ukip candidates live no where near the wards they are standing in, check the facts.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DavidSmeth[/bold] wrote: You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.[/p][/quote]First thing UKIP would do is not have spent 8.5 Million on the Town Hall. Other than then its UKIPS policy to ask the Electorate what THEY want not what UKIP want. All UKIP Cllrs where humanly possible live in the area representing & if not as close as possible. Same local MPs will also local & not shipped in as the others do.[/p][/quote]Well that's simply not true. Most of the ukip candidates live no where near the wards they are standing in, check the facts. DavidSmeth
  • Score: -14

11:27am Mon 28 Apr 14

Hollieanne says...

Where have all the previous comments gone?
Where have all the previous comments gone? Hollieanne
  • Score: 12

11:53am Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

DavidSmeth wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
DavidSmeth wrote:
You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.
First thing UKIP would do is not have spent 8.5 Million on the Town Hall. Other than then its UKIPS policy to ask the Electorate what THEY want not what UKIP want. All UKIP Cllrs where humanly possible live in the area representing & if not as close as possible. Same local MPs will also local & not shipped in as the others do.
Well that's simply not true. Most of the ukip candidates live no where near the wards they are standing in, check the facts.
I have where did you check yours & i said humanly possible?. Google nigel farage speech gateshead 23rd april 2014 ..........& weep.
[quote][p][bold]DavidSmeth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DavidSmeth[/bold] wrote: You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.[/p][/quote]First thing UKIP would do is not have spent 8.5 Million on the Town Hall. Other than then its UKIPS policy to ask the Electorate what THEY want not what UKIP want. All UKIP Cllrs where humanly possible live in the area representing & if not as close as possible. Same local MPs will also local & not shipped in as the others do.[/p][/quote]Well that's simply not true. Most of the ukip candidates live no where near the wards they are standing in, check the facts.[/p][/quote]I have where did you check yours & i said humanly possible?. Google nigel farage speech gateshead 23rd april 2014 ..........& weep. thomas222
  • Score: 11

11:55am Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

DavidSmeth wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
DavidSmeth wrote:
You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.
First thing UKIP would do is not have spent 8.5 Million on the Town Hall. Other than then its UKIPS policy to ask the Electorate what THEY want not what UKIP want. All UKIP Cllrs where humanly possible live in the area representing & if not as close as possible. Same local MPs will also local & not shipped in as the others do.
Well that's simply not true. Most of the ukip candidates live no where near the wards they are standing in, check the facts.
BTW who do you support?
[quote][p][bold]DavidSmeth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DavidSmeth[/bold] wrote: You lot need to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the track record of ukip in both local and European politics. The few counsellors they have don't turn up to meetinsg and do very little for their communities, just go in the internet and check. They are a bunch of ram shackled failed politicians from other parties with extremists views. Don't get me wrong all the main parties are failing to address some of the issues that mostoif us worry about like immigration and the state of our town but ukip is not the answer. What are their policies locally, nobody knows. The leaflet I got was all about national issues. Nothing about what they would differently for our town. A vote for ukip means more cliff Morris and labour and I personally don't think that will be good for our town. We need to weaken labours strong hold on our town not strengthen it.[/p][/quote]First thing UKIP would do is not have spent 8.5 Million on the Town Hall. Other than then its UKIPS policy to ask the Electorate what THEY want not what UKIP want. All UKIP Cllrs where humanly possible live in the area representing & if not as close as possible. Same local MPs will also local & not shipped in as the others do.[/p][/quote]Well that's simply not true. Most of the ukip candidates live no where near the wards they are standing in, check the facts.[/p][/quote]BTW who do you support? thomas222
  • Score: 1

12:28pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

Tommo, what are UKIP's policies locally? Why should people vote UKIP in our local elections apart from sending Morris and his 'family' a message.

The thing is Tommo, if nobody knows what UKIP stand for on a local level - only the half wits will tick X for them, assuming the half wits turn out that is.
Tommo, what are UKIP's policies locally? Why should people vote UKIP in our local elections apart from sending Morris and his 'family' a message. The thing is Tommo, if nobody knows what UKIP stand for on a local level - only the half wits will tick X for them, assuming the half wits turn out that is. Tim Burr
  • Score: -15

1:41pm Mon 28 Apr 14

paulrich says...

Will this do Tim?

LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES

UKIP believes that

• Council tax should be as low as possible

• Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services

• Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2

• We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour

• Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services

• Real decision-making should be given to local
Communities

• Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars

VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND
Will this do Tim? LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES UKIP believes that • Council tax should be as low as possible • Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services • Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2 • We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour • Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services • Real decision-making should be given to local Communities • Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND paulrich
  • Score: 9

2:09pm Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Tommo, what are UKIP's policies locally? Why should people vote UKIP in our local elections apart from sending Morris and his 'family' a message.

The thing is Tommo, if nobody knows what UKIP stand for on a local level - only the half wits will tick X for them, assuming the half wits turn out that is.
Paulrich has already posted it Tim. We also want recall of any Cllrs doing what they want ignoring what we want. No party politics & controlled locally with things that matter locally. 30 % of the Country want a vote, to not give that will destroy them all sooner or later.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Tommo, what are UKIP's policies locally? Why should people vote UKIP in our local elections apart from sending Morris and his 'family' a message. The thing is Tommo, if nobody knows what UKIP stand for on a local level - only the half wits will tick X for them, assuming the half wits turn out that is.[/p][/quote]Paulrich has already posted it Tim. We also want recall of any Cllrs doing what they want ignoring what we want. No party politics & controlled locally with things that matter locally. 30 % of the Country want a vote, to not give that will destroy them all sooner or later. thomas222
  • Score: 1

2:19pm Mon 28 Apr 14

holloway_david says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Tommo, what are UKIP's policies locally? Why should people vote UKIP in our local elections apart from sending Morris and his 'family' a message.

The thing is Tommo, if nobody knows what UKIP stand for on a local level - only the half wits will tick X for them, assuming the half wits turn out that is.
The half wits are already in the town hall. Please give me a list of what the current councillors have done on your behalf
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Tommo, what are UKIP's policies locally? Why should people vote UKIP in our local elections apart from sending Morris and his 'family' a message. The thing is Tommo, if nobody knows what UKIP stand for on a local level - only the half wits will tick X for them, assuming the half wits turn out that is.[/p][/quote]The half wits are already in the town hall. Please give me a list of what the current councillors have done on your behalf holloway_david
  • Score: 5

2:51pm Mon 28 Apr 14

I, Ludicrous says...

Hmmm, only the lady from UKIP mentions the shocking state of our town centre. Interesting, because as a Boltonian voter that's right up there on my list of priorities in these local elections, but seemingly isn't even on the radar of the other election hopefuls.
Morris is just a parody of himself now, isn't he?! He really does represent all that's wrong in politics and sadly for us has dragged our town down to the level of his own embarrassing image.
Hmmm, only the lady from UKIP mentions the shocking state of our town centre. Interesting, because as a Boltonian voter that's right up there on my list of priorities in these local elections, but seemingly isn't even on the radar of the other election hopefuls. Morris is just a parody of himself now, isn't he?! He really does represent all that's wrong in politics and sadly for us has dragged our town down to the level of his own embarrassing image. I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 6

3:27pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

paulrich wrote:
Will this do Tim?

LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES

UKIP believes that

• Council tax should be as low as possible

• Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services

• Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2

• We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour

• Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services

• Real decision-making should be given to local
Communities

• Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars

VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND
Apart from council tax being lower - I don't see anything there local.

Bolton's adverse to building on green belt already - HS2 isn't coming through here, decision-making should be given to local Communities - OK to a degree, the same with highly paid excessive, top heavy 'executives'. The rest is political posturing.

So basically, UKIP are offering nothing locally - just an opportunity for a protest vote? I'm sure Morris et al must be laughing his socks off if that is really your local manifesto.
[quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Will this do Tim? LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES UKIP believes that • Council tax should be as low as possible • Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services • Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2 • We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour • Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services • Real decision-making should be given to local Communities • Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND[/p][/quote]Apart from council tax being lower - I don't see anything there local. Bolton's adverse to building on green belt already - HS2 isn't coming through here, decision-making should be given to local Communities - OK to a degree, the same with highly paid excessive, top heavy 'executives'. The rest is political posturing. So basically, UKIP are offering nothing locally - just an opportunity for a protest vote? I'm sure Morris et al must be laughing his socks off if that is really your local manifesto. Tim Burr
  • Score: -18

3:31pm Mon 28 Apr 14

paulrich says...

Tim -The list I posted comes from the nationally produced Local Election Manifesto.

I can only speak for myself but my policies can be found at :-

http://littleleveran
ddarcyleverukipblog.
blogspot.co.uk/2014/
02/little-lever-darc
y-lever-local.html
Tim -The list I posted comes from the nationally produced Local Election Manifesto. I can only speak for myself but my policies can be found at :- http://littleleveran ddarcyleverukipblog. blogspot.co.uk/2014/ 02/little-lever-darc y-lever-local.html paulrich
  • Score: 1

3:38pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

Thanks Paul, I'll look later and get back to you.
Thanks Paul, I'll look later and get back to you. Tim Burr
  • Score: -10

4:03pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

"National politics play no part in this election. Whoever is elected in this ward won’t make a ha’porth of difference to what goes on in Westminster.

Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat Councillors are compelled to toe their party lines. As a UKIP councillor I will have independence of action on your behalf.

The existing Councillors are tired, stale, out of ideas and lacking in vision. A new broom and a breath of fresh air is needed in the Town Hall. Without it, nothing will change and more than likely things will get worse."

Local man dealing with local issues -pity you didn't just be an independant Paul, however, exactly how it should be rather the minnows playing at being big fish as we have now with titles so big, they'd put Alan Sugar to shame.

Interesting to see the Council tax take in Little Lever - not enough has gone back into that community, similar to most districts I imagine - will an executive member like to tell us where that money has gone? 50% went in propping Council pensions... for a starter.
"National politics play no part in this election. Whoever is elected in this ward won’t make a ha’porth of difference to what goes on in Westminster. Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat Councillors are compelled to toe their party lines. As a UKIP councillor I will have independence of action on your behalf. The existing Councillors are tired, stale, out of ideas and lacking in vision. A new broom and a breath of fresh air is needed in the Town Hall. Without it, nothing will change and more than likely things will get worse." Local man dealing with local issues -pity you didn't just be an independant Paul, however, exactly how it should be rather the minnows playing at being big fish as we have now with titles so big, they'd put Alan Sugar to shame. Interesting to see the Council tax take in Little Lever - not enough has gone back into that community, similar to most districts I imagine - will an executive member like to tell us where that money has gone? 50% went in propping Council pensions... for a starter. Tim Burr
  • Score: -12

6:41pm Mon 28 Apr 14

the hand says...

Cliff Morris and the rest of the cronies have never listened to the electorate of bolton remember the old market hall look up how many signed a petition against the reconstruction into what now stands empty shops and more closures take a look around bolton and see where your money is going where it's being spent daubhill and Dean then ask the question to your local councillor and ask him why all the money's are centeredness on those areas I doubt you'll get an honest answer
Cliff Morris and the rest of the cronies have never listened to the electorate of bolton remember the old market hall look up how many signed a petition against the reconstruction into what now stands empty shops and more closures take a look around bolton and see where your money is going where it's being spent daubhill and Dean then ask the question to your local councillor and ask him why all the money's are centeredness on those areas I doubt you'll get an honest answer the hand
  • Score: 7

6:43pm Mon 28 Apr 14

George X. says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Tommo, what are UKIP's policies locally? Why should people vote UKIP in our local elections apart from sending Morris and his 'family' a message.

The thing is Tommo, if nobody knows what UKIP stand for on a local level - only the half wits will tick X for them, assuming the half wits turn out that is.
Enough half-wits turn out for the rest of them ! why should'nt Ukip have their share ?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Tommo, what are UKIP's policies locally? Why should people vote UKIP in our local elections apart from sending Morris and his 'family' a message. The thing is Tommo, if nobody knows what UKIP stand for on a local level - only the half wits will tick X for them, assuming the half wits turn out that is.[/p][/quote]Enough half-wits turn out for the rest of them ! why should'nt Ukip have their share ? George X.
  • Score: 1

6:48pm Mon 28 Apr 14

the hand says...

the hand wrote:
Cliff Morris and the rest of the cronies have never listened to the electorate of bolton remember the old market hall look up how many signed a petition against the reconstruction into what now stands empty shops and more closures take a look around bolton and see where your money is going where it's being spent daubhill and Dean then ask the question to your local councillor and ask him why all the money's are centeredness on those areas I doubt you'll get an honest answer
Oh and for the record they painted our elephants up to make them look Asian what the fxxks was that all about then maybe cliff could tell you
[quote][p][bold]the hand[/bold] wrote: Cliff Morris and the rest of the cronies have never listened to the electorate of bolton remember the old market hall look up how many signed a petition against the reconstruction into what now stands empty shops and more closures take a look around bolton and see where your money is going where it's being spent daubhill and Dean then ask the question to your local councillor and ask him why all the money's are centeredness on those areas I doubt you'll get an honest answer[/p][/quote]Oh and for the record they painted our elephants up to make them look Asian what the fxxks was that all about then maybe cliff could tell you the hand
  • Score: 5

7:07pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Old Boltonian says...

paulrich wrote:
Will this do Tim?

LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES

UKIP believes that

• Council tax should be as low as possible

• Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services

• Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2

• We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour

• Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services

• Real decision-making should be given to local
Communities

• Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars

VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND
These are not policies, they are vague aspirations. The sort of wish list pub bores come up with after about five pints! There is not a single item on this naive wish list that UKIP could do a thing about, even if Boltonians were so foolish as to elect them to anything like a controlling voice on the council. A crank, one issue party, inspired by hatred of foreigners, what a basis for a sensible political party. A vote for UKIP is a wasted vote. I predict UKIP's bubble is about to burst.
[quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Will this do Tim? LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES UKIP believes that • Council tax should be as low as possible • Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services • Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2 • We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour • Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services • Real decision-making should be given to local Communities • Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND[/p][/quote]These are not policies, they are vague aspirations. The sort of wish list pub bores come up with after about five pints! There is not a single item on this naive wish list that UKIP could do a thing about, even if Boltonians were so foolish as to elect them to anything like a controlling voice on the council. A crank, one issue party, inspired by hatred of foreigners, what a basis for a sensible political party. A vote for UKIP is a wasted vote. I predict UKIP's bubble is about to burst. Old Boltonian
  • Score: 2

7:09pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...
If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip... Tim Burr
  • Score: 2

8:02pm Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Old Boltonian wrote:
paulrich wrote:
Will this do Tim?

LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES

UKIP believes that

• Council tax should be as low as possible

• Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services

• Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2

• We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour

• Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services

• Real decision-making should be given to local
Communities

• Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars

VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND
These are not policies, they are vague aspirations. The sort of wish list pub bores come up with after about five pints! There is not a single item on this naive wish list that UKIP could do a thing about, even if Boltonians were so foolish as to elect them to anything like a controlling voice on the council. A crank, one issue party, inspired by hatred of foreigners, what a basis for a sensible political party. A vote for UKIP is a wasted vote. I predict UKIP's bubble is about to burst.
Tim who are you supporting next moth Pal ?.
[quote][p][bold]Old Boltonian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Will this do Tim? LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES UKIP believes that • Council tax should be as low as possible • Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services • Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2 • We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour • Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services • Real decision-making should be given to local Communities • Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND[/p][/quote]These are not policies, they are vague aspirations. The sort of wish list pub bores come up with after about five pints! There is not a single item on this naive wish list that UKIP could do a thing about, even if Boltonians were so foolish as to elect them to anything like a controlling voice on the council. A crank, one issue party, inspired by hatred of foreigners, what a basis for a sensible political party. A vote for UKIP is a wasted vote. I predict UKIP's bubble is about to burst.[/p][/quote]Tim who are you supporting next moth Pal ?. thomas222
  • Score: 0

8:04pm Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...
And you are supporting Timbo ?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...[/p][/quote]And you are supporting Timbo ? thomas222
  • Score: 0

9:21pm Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Not being funny but is there anyone on here will put their hands up if they are supporting the Libdemcon Gang. Or are you to afraid to say ?
Not being funny but is there anyone on here will put their hands up if they are supporting the Libdemcon Gang. Or are you to afraid to say ? thomas222
  • Score: 0

9:31pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

thomas222 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...
And you are supporting Timbo ?
Depends on whether the local loonie can hit -200 Tommo.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...[/p][/quote]And you are supporting Timbo ?[/p][/quote]Depends on whether the local loonie can hit -200 Tommo. Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

9:43pm Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...
And you are supporting Timbo ?
Depends on whether the local loonie can hit -200 Tommo.
Tim both will be ok thanks.... Dont tell me you dont vote please......
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...[/p][/quote]And you are supporting Timbo ?[/p][/quote]Depends on whether the local loonie can hit -200 Tommo.[/p][/quote]Tim both will be ok thanks.... Dont tell me you dont vote please...... thomas222
  • Score: 0

9:57pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

I vote Tommo, but this time I'm going to vote for the first one who knocks on my door because he or she can be bothered to get out and earn my vote.
I vote Tommo, but this time I'm going to vote for the first one who knocks on my door because he or she can be bothered to get out and earn my vote. Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

10:03pm Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
I vote Tommo, but this time I'm going to vote for the first one who knocks on my door because he or she can be bothered to get out and earn my vote.
Tim its the age of media & the internet, things & times change & why do you need a leaflet to tell you what to believe ?. Its all there for you to find out if you look.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: I vote Tommo, but this time I'm going to vote for the first one who knocks on my door because he or she can be bothered to get out and earn my vote.[/p][/quote]Tim its the age of media & the internet, things & times change & why do you need a leaflet to tell you what to believe ?. Its all there for you to find out if you look. thomas222
  • Score: 1

10:12pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

I don't want a leaflet Tommo - I want somebody to canvas my vote, if they can't be bothered to, they're not getting it. I'd rather spoil my paper.
I can watch the worlds best at golf over and over but it won't make me play any better, it's only by getting out there and playing, my game will improve.
It's not a bad old 'screw' being on the council these days Tommo - make them work for it!
Why you not standing in Halliwell?
I don't want a leaflet Tommo - I want somebody to canvas my vote, if they can't be bothered to, they're not getting it. I'd rather spoil my paper. I can watch the worlds best at golf over and over but it won't make me play any better, it's only by getting out there and playing, my game will improve. It's not a bad old 'screw' being on the council these days Tommo - make them work for it! Why you not standing in Halliwell? Tim Burr
  • Score: -1

10:20pm Mon 28 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
I don't want a leaflet Tommo - I want somebody to canvas my vote, if they can't be bothered to, they're not getting it. I'd rather spoil my paper.
I can watch the worlds best at golf over and over but it won't make me play any better, it's only by getting out there and playing, my game will improve.
It's not a bad old 'screw' being on the council these days Tommo - make them work for it!
Why you not standing in Halliwell?
Tim,
That is a bad excuse & it will be taken as that by most. If UKIP are no problem why are the big three in such a state. But for them there would be no UKIP. Tim if you dont vote & put your name to it i dont want to comment with you. Only Trolls do that.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: I don't want a leaflet Tommo - I want somebody to canvas my vote, if they can't be bothered to, they're not getting it. I'd rather spoil my paper. I can watch the worlds best at golf over and over but it won't make me play any better, it's only by getting out there and playing, my game will improve. It's not a bad old 'screw' being on the council these days Tommo - make them work for it! Why you not standing in Halliwell?[/p][/quote]Tim, That is a bad excuse & it will be taken as that by most. If UKIP are no problem why are the big three in such a state. But for them there would be no UKIP. Tim if you dont vote & put your name to it i dont want to comment with you. Only Trolls do that. thomas222
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tim Burr says...

Tommo, you're a troll.
Tommo, you're a troll. Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

8:23am Tue 29 Apr 14

the hand says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Tommo, you're a troll.
Go ahead Tim spoil your ballet paper get the n..heads voted back then don't come on here complaining about what a waste of tax payers money the council are don't forget people died to give you the right to exercise your right to vote don't waste it but I agree it would be nice to look someone in the eye on my door step so I could see the bull s..t in their eyes
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Tommo, you're a troll.[/p][/quote]Go ahead Tim spoil your ballet paper get the n..heads voted back then don't come on here complaining about what a waste of tax payers money the council are don't forget people died to give you the right to exercise your right to vote don't waste it but I agree it would be nice to look someone in the eye on my door step so I could see the bull s..t in their eyes the hand
  • Score: 2

12:42pm Tue 29 Apr 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

I see that my comment from yesterday was deleted. It seems the Bolton News can't handle true facts. Anyway you good people of Bolton, Vote UKIP for the good of our Country.
I see that my comment from yesterday was deleted. It seems the Bolton News can't handle true facts. Anyway you good people of Bolton, Vote UKIP for the good of our Country. FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Tue 29 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
I see that my comment from yesterday was deleted. It seems the Bolton News can't handle true facts. Anyway you good people of Bolton, Vote UKIP for the good of our Country.
They are running very scared when the liblabcon are forming a joint Cartel to brand UKIP racist. I hope it blows up in their faces. Even people who dont like UKIP wont like this & the Brits hate Bullys. See todays Guardian. They are looking into a deep pit & they now know it.
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: I see that my comment from yesterday was deleted. It seems the Bolton News can't handle true facts. Anyway you good people of Bolton, Vote UKIP for the good of our Country.[/p][/quote]They are running very scared when the liblabcon are forming a joint Cartel to brand UKIP racist. I hope it blows up in their faces. Even people who dont like UKIP wont like this & the Brits hate Bullys. See todays Guardian. They are looking into a deep pit & they now know it. thomas222
  • Score: 1

1:34pm Tue 29 Apr 14

holloway_david says...

paulrich wrote:
Will this do Tim?

LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES

UKIP believes that

• Council tax should be as low as possible

• Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services

• Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2

• We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour

• Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services

• Real decision-making should be given to local
Communities

• Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars

VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND
Well said.
For those people who state national and local government issues are separate, then think again as one affects the other and its how local councils manage their territory in response.
1 Unfortunately we have a totally inept council who have put up council tax .
2.Stopped planning comments although I have to say they would take no notice anyway ( Bolton Market )
3. Priority given to town centre when it comes to road repairs and not outlying areas.
There are other lists I am sure and if any body else wants to add to it then feel free.------ I will vote UKIP because Labour and Conservatives have failed this town.
[quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Will this do Tim? LOCAL ELECTION POLICIES UKIP believes that • Council tax should be as low as possible • Immigration must be controlled to relieve pressure on our health, education, housing and welfare services • Green spaces should be protected - we oppose excessivehousing development, wind farms and HS2 • We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and anti-social behaviour • Councils should cut highly paid council executives, not front-line staff and services • Real decision-making should be given to local Communities • Money should be used for local services, not the EU, foreign aid and foreign wars VOTE UKIP ON MAY 22ND[/p][/quote]Well said. For those people who state national and local government issues are separate, then think again as one affects the other and its how local councils manage their territory in response. 1 Unfortunately we have a totally inept council who have put up council tax . 2.Stopped planning comments although I have to say they would take no notice anyway ( Bolton Market ) 3. Priority given to town centre when it comes to road repairs and not outlying areas. There are other lists I am sure and if any body else wants to add to it then feel free.------ I will vote UKIP because Labour and Conservatives have failed this town. holloway_david
  • Score: 3

9:55am Wed 30 Apr 14

Jim271 says...

We aware certain communities are planning to arrange trips so that they will will vote Labour Candidates in both Halliwell and Crompton. they are sending out flyers promising this.

Stop them from taking over, go out and vote UKIP/
We aware certain communities are planning to arrange trips so that they will will vote Labour Candidates in both Halliwell and Crompton. they are sending out flyers promising this. Stop them from taking over, go out and vote UKIP/ Jim271
  • Score: 3

10:05am Wed 30 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

Jim271 wrote:
We aware certain communities are planning to arrange trips so that they will will vote Labour Candidates in both Halliwell and Crompton. they are sending out flyers promising this.

Stop them from taking over, go out and vote UKIP/
Jim,
I have never seen so many people in Halliwell & other areas so wound up to vote. People who have never voted or havnt for many years. Even my Son who has never voted is along with his mates who have never voted also..
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: We aware certain communities are planning to arrange trips so that they will will vote Labour Candidates in both Halliwell and Crompton. they are sending out flyers promising this. Stop them from taking over, go out and vote UKIP/[/p][/quote]Jim, I have never seen so many people in Halliwell & other areas so wound up to vote. People who have never voted or havnt for many years. Even my Son who has never voted is along with his mates who have never voted also.. thomas222
  • Score: 1

7:39pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Ernagy2 says...

Valiant One wrote:
Labour did not create the WORLD economic crisis. Tories crow about the recovery. They have taken froom the poor to give to the rich. They have created a nation where all too many have had to have help from food banks. Even working people. Jobs created are zero contracts or part time. Moss Bank park animal world closure is one casualty of council budget cuts caused by the Tory government demanding only essential services be saved. Does no one see that almost all towns in the north west are suffering closure of shops and cuts in services?
That's the last thing we want National politics discussed at local elections. What will Labour do for Bolton NOTHING as long as Cliff is in charge.
[quote][p][bold]Valiant One[/bold] wrote: Labour did not create the WORLD economic crisis. Tories crow about the recovery. They have taken froom the poor to give to the rich. They have created a nation where all too many have had to have help from food banks. Even working people. Jobs created are zero contracts or part time. Moss Bank park animal world closure is one casualty of council budget cuts caused by the Tory government demanding only essential services be saved. Does no one see that almost all towns in the north west are suffering closure of shops and cuts in services?[/p][/quote]That's the last thing we want National politics discussed at local elections. What will Labour do for Bolton NOTHING as long as Cliff is in charge. Ernagy2
  • Score: 4

11:19pm Wed 30 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...
And you are supporting Timbo ?
Actively breaking the law again, Thomas222?

Actively going against what your forefathers fought for through The Chartist movements and the increase and security of the blind franchise?

It really shows how patriotic and British you really are, NOT!!!

You are willing to destroy great British traditions and yet you want people to vote for a Political Party whose leaders actively promotes British people for British jobs and yet he has a non- British person as his personal secretary, thus taking a job away from the British. Plus a political Party that only has white people in its campaign posters considering there have been people of many colours for well over 3000 years!!! Plus a Political Party who calls MP's for collecting extortionate wages and expenses for doing nothing an yet be expected to be voted in for Brussels and either abstain to vote against anything that is good for the British people!!! Whilst collecting voting wages and more than £3million in expenses used incorrectly!!!!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...[/p][/quote]And you are supporting Timbo ?[/p][/quote]Actively breaking the law again, Thomas222? Actively going against what your forefathers fought for through The Chartist movements and the increase and security of the blind franchise? It really shows how patriotic and British you really are, NOT!!! You are willing to destroy great British traditions and yet you want people to vote for a Political Party whose leaders actively promotes British people for British jobs and yet he has a non- British person as his personal secretary, thus taking a job away from the British. Plus a political Party that only has white people in its campaign posters considering there have been people of many colours for well over 3000 years!!! Plus a Political Party who calls MP's for collecting extortionate wages and expenses for doing nothing an yet be expected to be voted in for Brussels and either abstain to vote against anything that is good for the British people!!! Whilst collecting voting wages and more than £3million in expenses used incorrectly!!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: 0

11:26pm Wed 30 Apr 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...
And you are supporting Timbo ?
Actively breaking the law again, Thomas222?

Actively going against what your forefathers fought for through The Chartist movements and the increase and security of the blind franchise?

It really shows how patriotic and British you really are, NOT!!!

You are willing to destroy great British traditions and yet you want people to vote for a Political Party whose leaders actively promotes British people for British jobs and yet he has a non- British person as his personal secretary, thus taking a job away from the British. Plus a political Party that only has white people in its campaign posters considering there have been people of many colours for well over 3000 years!!! Plus a Political Party who calls MP's for collecting extortionate wages and expenses for doing nothing an yet be expected to be voted in for Brussels and either abstain to vote against anything that is good for the British people!!! Whilst collecting voting wages and more than £3million in expenses used incorrectly!!!!
Yawn.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: If I don't get 200 thumbs down - I'm not voting ukip...[/p][/quote]And you are supporting Timbo ?[/p][/quote]Actively breaking the law again, Thomas222? Actively going against what your forefathers fought for through The Chartist movements and the increase and security of the blind franchise? It really shows how patriotic and British you really are, NOT!!! You are willing to destroy great British traditions and yet you want people to vote for a Political Party whose leaders actively promotes British people for British jobs and yet he has a non- British person as his personal secretary, thus taking a job away from the British. Plus a political Party that only has white people in its campaign posters considering there have been people of many colours for well over 3000 years!!! Plus a Political Party who calls MP's for collecting extortionate wages and expenses for doing nothing an yet be expected to be voted in for Brussels and either abstain to vote against anything that is good for the British people!!! Whilst collecting voting wages and more than £3million in expenses used incorrectly!!!![/p][/quote]Yawn. thomas222
  • Score: 0

12:42am Thu 1 May 14

The Righteous One says...

Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear! The Righteous One
  • Score: -1

6:28am Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU. thomas222
  • Score: -2

6:57am Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
By the way i am not a representative speaking for UKIP i am a member of UKIP using my right to speak openly regarding the EU & its Racist policys.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]By the way i am not a representative speaking for UKIP i am a member of UKIP using my right to speak openly regarding the EU & its Racist policys. thomas222
  • Score: 1

9:50am Thu 1 May 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
If you are against racism then why are there only white people on ALL the current poster campaigns of UKIP. Let's not forget that we have had African people since at least the Roman era, if not before, and the Asian fraternity (ie. Japanese and Chinese ever since the trade routes, especially the Silk Road and spice trade routes, but it seems UKIP doesn't recognise these people!

Isn't that being racist - something which you say you are against?

Also if the EU is so racist then why do they promote cultures, promote the idea of the best person for jobs no matter what colour or creed. Then why are the EU laws more stronger against racial prejudice than anywhere else in the world?
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.[/p][/quote]If you are against racism then why are there only white people on ALL the current poster campaigns of UKIP. Let's not forget that we have had African people since at least the Roman era, if not before, and the Asian fraternity (ie. Japanese and Chinese ever since the trade routes, especially the Silk Road and spice trade routes, but it seems UKIP doesn't recognise these people! Isn't that being racist - something which you say you are against? Also if the EU is so racist then why do they promote cultures, promote the idea of the best person for jobs no matter what colour or creed. Then why are the EU laws more stronger against racial prejudice than anywhere else in the world? The Righteous One
  • Score: -51

10:28am Thu 1 May 14

Jim271 says...

thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote:
We aware certain communities are planning to arrange trips so that they will will vote Labour Candidates in both Halliwell and Crompton. they are sending out flyers promising this.

Stop them from taking over, go out and vote UKIP/
Jim,
I have never seen so many people in Halliwell & other areas so wound up to vote. People who have never voted or havnt for many years. Even my Son who has never voted is along with his mates who have never voted also..
I would put the leaflet poster in my window, but someone from the Community would throw a brick through it.

Third world politics, ill be filming the polling station on the day to see how many of the so called supporters are loitering around attempting to put people off.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: We aware certain communities are planning to arrange trips so that they will will vote Labour Candidates in both Halliwell and Crompton. they are sending out flyers promising this. Stop them from taking over, go out and vote UKIP/[/p][/quote]Jim, I have never seen so many people in Halliwell & other areas so wound up to vote. People who have never voted or havnt for many years. Even my Son who has never voted is along with his mates who have never voted also..[/p][/quote]I would put the leaflet poster in my window, but someone from the Community would throw a brick through it. Third world politics, ill be filming the polling station on the day to see how many of the so called supporters are loitering around attempting to put people off. Jim271
  • Score: 3

10:33am Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
If you are against racism then why are there only white people on ALL the current poster campaigns of UKIP. Let's not forget that we have had African people since at least the Roman era, if not before, and the Asian fraternity (ie. Japanese and Chinese ever since the trade routes, especially the Silk Road and spice trade routes, but it seems UKIP doesn't recognise these people!

Isn't that being racist - something which you say you are against?

Also if the EU is so racist then why do they promote cultures, promote the idea of the best person for jobs no matter what colour or creed. Then why are the EU laws more stronger against racial prejudice than anywhere else in the world?
The UKIP spokesman for medium to small companies is Amjad Bashir & is also a candidate for MEP for West Yorkshire. He is of Pakistani origin as you are aware but seen to have a very selective memory when it comes to venting your frustration to a Party you dont agree with. UKIP also have many members and supporters of all nationalities including many Asian, please look at you tube...Nigel Farage in Slough,BBC caught out!

UKIP want Immigration from all over the world including Asian,Japanese, African, Chinese including Eastern Europe but with the skills we want in the areas we want but EU directives say we cant do that as we have to take White Counties like Rumania & Bulgaria who are low skilled & are a massive strain financially, Services, So who are the real Racists?. Truth sounds like hate to those that hate the truth & you do hate the truth & do remember this. The truth hurts,but lies destroy. Your lies & cry of wolf has had its day as the Libdems are finding out.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.[/p][/quote]If you are against racism then why are there only white people on ALL the current poster campaigns of UKIP. Let's not forget that we have had African people since at least the Roman era, if not before, and the Asian fraternity (ie. Japanese and Chinese ever since the trade routes, especially the Silk Road and spice trade routes, but it seems UKIP doesn't recognise these people! Isn't that being racist - something which you say you are against? Also if the EU is so racist then why do they promote cultures, promote the idea of the best person for jobs no matter what colour or creed. Then why are the EU laws more stronger against racial prejudice than anywhere else in the world?[/p][/quote]The UKIP spokesman for medium to small companies is Amjad Bashir & is also a candidate for MEP for West Yorkshire. He is of Pakistani origin as you are aware but seen to have a very selective memory when it comes to venting your frustration to a Party you dont agree with. UKIP also have many members and supporters of all nationalities including many Asian, please look at you tube...Nigel Farage in Slough,BBC caught out! UKIP want Immigration from all over the world including Asian,Japanese, African, Chinese including Eastern Europe but with the skills we want in the areas we want but EU directives say we cant do that as we have to take White Counties like Rumania & Bulgaria who are low skilled & are a massive strain financially, Services, So who are the real Racists?. Truth sounds like hate to those that hate the truth & you do hate the truth & do remember this. The truth hurts,but lies destroy. Your lies & cry of wolf has had its day as the Libdems are finding out. thomas222
  • Score: 1

5:24pm Thu 1 May 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
You are against racism?

So why did you post this in another thread....

"thomas222 says...
Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?"

And that was only posted yesterday afternoon - so you have changed your racist views within 12 hours????

And before you say that religion cannot be classed as racist - yes it can as the Oxford English Dictionary meaning of racism is, "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural, religious or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. "

So what are you - a racist, or not?
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.[/p][/quote]You are against racism? So why did you post this in another thread.... "thomas222 says... Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?" And that was only posted yesterday afternoon - so you have changed your racist views within 12 hours???? And before you say that religion cannot be classed as racist - yes it can as the Oxford English Dictionary meaning of racism is, "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural, religious or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. " So what are you - a racist, or not? The Righteous One
  • Score: -25

6:15pm Thu 1 May 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
If you are against racism then why are there only white people on ALL the current poster campaigns of UKIP. Let's not forget that we have had African people since at least the Roman era, if not before, and the Asian fraternity (ie. Japanese and Chinese ever since the trade routes, especially the Silk Road and spice trade routes, but it seems UKIP doesn't recognise these people!

Isn't that being racist - something which you say you are against?

Also if the EU is so racist then why do they promote cultures, promote the idea of the best person for jobs no matter what colour or creed. Then why are the EU laws more stronger against racial prejudice than anywhere else in the world?
The UKIP spokesman for medium to small companies is Amjad Bashir & is also a candidate for MEP for West Yorkshire. He is of Pakistani origin as you are aware but seen to have a very selective memory when it comes to venting your frustration to a Party you dont agree with. UKIP also have many members and supporters of all nationalities including many Asian, please look at you tube...Nigel Farage in Slough,BBC caught out!

UKIP want Immigration from all over the world including Asian,Japanese, African, Chinese including Eastern Europe but with the skills we want in the areas we want but EU directives say we cant do that as we have to take White Counties like Rumania & Bulgaria who are low skilled & are a massive strain financially, Services, So who are the real Racists?. Truth sounds like hate to those that hate the truth & you do hate the truth & do remember this. The truth hurts,but lies destroy. Your lies & cry of wolf has had its day as the Libdems are finding out.
I have not said one lie!

In fact you have even accused me of lying when I posted UKIP's policies on the forum, and all I did was copy and paste from their website!!!!!

Therefore it is you who doesn't like the truth!

Now here is a fact.

Coming back from Amsterdam on Tuesday evening, I decided to use the coach as I had a meeting in London the next day - so its a nice rest, journey and cheap. We stopped at Calais to go through French passport control - ALL passports were scanned, From there we left the French building and went into the British Passport building - again ALL passports were scanned and we were sent on our merry way to the ferry. At arrival at Dover we were then pulled up and had to disembark from the coach and go through customs. 3 people were NOT allowed back on the coach and were held at customs - found out later they were refused entry into the UK and sent back to France on the next ferry - and they were EU citizens!!

We do have control over our borders, we do know who is coming in and out of the country and we do refuse entry when required. Therefore for UKIP to continue lying that we don't have border control is just pathetic!!!!!

That little story is actual fact - 10pm (CET time) coach from Amsterdam Amstel, caught the 435am (CET) ferry from Calais and arrived in Dover at 5am (BST)


Can you advise as to how you know that Rumanians and Bulgarians are lowly skilled, considering the British are less skilled in many genres than what they are!!!!! I know people in my industry who are high flyers and they come from these so-called low-skilled Eastern European Countries!!!
It just shows your complete ignorance of these countries and off the skills of the people! (for a fact did you know that ALL primary schools in Bulgaria every pupil has a desktop and an iPad that they work from and that they specialise in languages and ITC as well as the "normal" subjects - that at primary school and not secondary/high school)!!!!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.[/p][/quote]If you are against racism then why are there only white people on ALL the current poster campaigns of UKIP. Let's not forget that we have had African people since at least the Roman era, if not before, and the Asian fraternity (ie. Japanese and Chinese ever since the trade routes, especially the Silk Road and spice trade routes, but it seems UKIP doesn't recognise these people! Isn't that being racist - something which you say you are against? Also if the EU is so racist then why do they promote cultures, promote the idea of the best person for jobs no matter what colour or creed. Then why are the EU laws more stronger against racial prejudice than anywhere else in the world?[/p][/quote]The UKIP spokesman for medium to small companies is Amjad Bashir & is also a candidate for MEP for West Yorkshire. He is of Pakistani origin as you are aware but seen to have a very selective memory when it comes to venting your frustration to a Party you dont agree with. UKIP also have many members and supporters of all nationalities including many Asian, please look at you tube...Nigel Farage in Slough,BBC caught out! UKIP want Immigration from all over the world including Asian,Japanese, African, Chinese including Eastern Europe but with the skills we want in the areas we want but EU directives say we cant do that as we have to take White Counties like Rumania & Bulgaria who are low skilled & are a massive strain financially, Services, So who are the real Racists?. Truth sounds like hate to those that hate the truth & you do hate the truth & do remember this. The truth hurts,but lies destroy. Your lies & cry of wolf has had its day as the Libdems are finding out.[/p][/quote]I have not said one lie! In fact you have even accused me of lying when I posted UKIP's policies on the forum, and all I did was copy and paste from their website!!!!! Therefore it is you who doesn't like the truth! Now here is a fact. Coming back from Amsterdam on Tuesday evening, I decided to use the coach as I had a meeting in London the next day - so its a nice rest, journey and cheap. We stopped at Calais to go through French passport control - ALL passports were scanned, From there we left the French building and went into the British Passport building - again ALL passports were scanned and we were sent on our merry way to the ferry. At arrival at Dover we were then pulled up and had to disembark from the coach and go through customs. 3 people were NOT allowed back on the coach and were held at customs - found out later they were refused entry into the UK and sent back to France on the next ferry - and they were EU citizens!! We do have control over our borders, we do know who is coming in and out of the country and we do refuse entry when required. Therefore for UKIP to continue lying that we don't have border control is just pathetic!!!!! That little story is actual fact - 10pm (CET time) coach from Amsterdam Amstel, caught the 435am (CET) ferry from Calais and arrived in Dover at 5am (BST) Can you advise as to how you know that Rumanians and Bulgarians are lowly skilled, considering the British are less skilled in many genres than what they are!!!!! I know people in my industry who are high flyers and they come from these so-called low-skilled Eastern European Countries!!! It just shows your complete ignorance of these countries and off the skills of the people! (for a fact did you know that ALL primary schools in Bulgaria every pupil has a desktop and an iPad that they work from and that they specialise in languages and ITC as well as the "normal" subjects - that at primary school and not secondary/high school)!!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: -58

6:16pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
You are against racism?

So why did you post this in another thread....

"thomas222 says...
Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?"

And that was only posted yesterday afternoon - so you have changed your racist views within 12 hours????

And before you say that religion cannot be classed as racist - yes it can as the Oxford English Dictionary meaning of racism is, "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural, religious or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. "

So what are you - a racist, or not?
That was posted this afternoon & i am waiting for The answer... Pardon me for asking perhaps you could tell me besides spouting bile. Your asking a question with another question is getting rather boring. : )
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.[/p][/quote]You are against racism? So why did you post this in another thread.... "thomas222 says... Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?" And that was only posted yesterday afternoon - so you have changed your racist views within 12 hours???? And before you say that religion cannot be classed as racist - yes it can as the Oxford English Dictionary meaning of racism is, "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural, religious or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. " So what are you - a racist, or not?[/p][/quote]That was posted this afternoon & i am waiting for The answer... Pardon me for asking perhaps you could tell me besides spouting bile. Your asking a question with another question is getting rather boring. : ) thomas222
  • Score: 0

6:29pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
If you are against racism then why are there only white people on ALL the current poster campaigns of UKIP. Let's not forget that we have had African people since at least the Roman era, if not before, and the Asian fraternity (ie. Japanese and Chinese ever since the trade routes, especially the Silk Road and spice trade routes, but it seems UKIP doesn't recognise these people!

Isn't that being racist - something which you say you are against?

Also if the EU is so racist then why do they promote cultures, promote the idea of the best person for jobs no matter what colour or creed. Then why are the EU laws more stronger against racial prejudice than anywhere else in the world?
The UKIP spokesman for medium to small companies is Amjad Bashir & is also a candidate for MEP for West Yorkshire. He is of Pakistani origin as you are aware but seen to have a very selective memory when it comes to venting your frustration to a Party you dont agree with. UKIP also have many members and supporters of all nationalities including many Asian, please look at you tube...Nigel Farage in Slough,BBC caught out!

UKIP want Immigration from all over the world including Asian,Japanese, African, Chinese including Eastern Europe but with the skills we want in the areas we want but EU directives say we cant do that as we have to take White Counties like Rumania & Bulgaria who are low skilled & are a massive strain financially, Services, So who are the real Racists?. Truth sounds like hate to those that hate the truth & you do hate the truth & do remember this. The truth hurts,but lies destroy. Your lies & cry of wolf has had its day as the Libdems are finding out.
Did you see this VIDEO and did you see the Muslims backing UKIP or did you forget to mention it again.. lol..... And why no reply to the eu being the racist ones... your arguments are being destroyed day by day.... UKIP want immigration from all over the world & you want the EU who favours white EU Countrys and discriminate against our asian and commonwealth brothers & Sisters........ This is where your false claims & racist racist claims all fall down and have done hence the surge to UKIP......... Over 100. 000 facebook page now and getting 2ooo a day approx.... The partys over get used to it.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.[/p][/quote]If you are against racism then why are there only white people on ALL the current poster campaigns of UKIP. Let's not forget that we have had African people since at least the Roman era, if not before, and the Asian fraternity (ie. Japanese and Chinese ever since the trade routes, especially the Silk Road and spice trade routes, but it seems UKIP doesn't recognise these people! Isn't that being racist - something which you say you are against? Also if the EU is so racist then why do they promote cultures, promote the idea of the best person for jobs no matter what colour or creed. Then why are the EU laws more stronger against racial prejudice than anywhere else in the world?[/p][/quote]The UKIP spokesman for medium to small companies is Amjad Bashir & is also a candidate for MEP for West Yorkshire. He is of Pakistani origin as you are aware but seen to have a very selective memory when it comes to venting your frustration to a Party you dont agree with. UKIP also have many members and supporters of all nationalities including many Asian, please look at you tube...Nigel Farage in Slough,BBC caught out! UKIP want Immigration from all over the world including Asian,Japanese, African, Chinese including Eastern Europe but with the skills we want in the areas we want but EU directives say we cant do that as we have to take White Counties like Rumania & Bulgaria who are low skilled & are a massive strain financially, Services, So who are the real Racists?. Truth sounds like hate to those that hate the truth & you do hate the truth & do remember this. The truth hurts,but lies destroy. Your lies & cry of wolf has had its day as the Libdems are finding out.[/p][/quote]Did you see this VIDEO and did you see the Muslims backing UKIP or did you forget to mention it again.. lol..... And why no reply to the eu being the racist ones... your arguments are being destroyed day by day.... UKIP want immigration from all over the world & you want the EU who favours white EU Countrys and discriminate against our asian and commonwealth brothers & Sisters........ This is where your false claims & racist racist claims all fall down and have done hence the surge to UKIP......... Over 100. 000 facebook page now and getting 2ooo a day approx.... The partys over get used to it. thomas222
  • Score: 2

7:37pm Thu 1 May 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
You are against racism?

So why did you post this in another thread....

"thomas222 says...
Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?"

And that was only posted yesterday afternoon - so you have changed your racist views within 12 hours????

And before you say that religion cannot be classed as racist - yes it can as the Oxford English Dictionary meaning of racism is, "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural, religious or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. "

So what are you - a racist, or not?
That was posted this afternoon & i am waiting for The answer... Pardon me for asking perhaps you could tell me besides spouting bile. Your asking a question with another question is getting rather boring. : )
Fact is no matter how many question I ask you NEVER answer them - and yet you supposedly support democracy - how can you have a democracy without answers to questions? (hypothetical question!)

As for me getting the days wrong yes I am thinking it is Friday as it has been a long week and been travelling for best part off 2.5 days, through the EU!

But that post of yours just shows your own hypocrisy!! And if you are supposedly one of the "normal" people wanting to vote for UKIP then God help this country if UKIP ever got in (which it never will to be honest - especially as Farage has turned down the chance to stand for Westminster which, if won, would give more credence to Farage wanting to be part of the Leadership debates next year!)

What is boring is that YOU never give any answers, why is that? (hypothetical question). Is it because that is what UKIP is all about - moan moan and moan with no answer to sort out all the so called wrongs!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.[/p][/quote]You are against racism? So why did you post this in another thread.... "thomas222 says... Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?" And that was only posted yesterday afternoon - so you have changed your racist views within 12 hours???? And before you say that religion cannot be classed as racist - yes it can as the Oxford English Dictionary meaning of racism is, "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural, religious or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. " So what are you - a racist, or not?[/p][/quote]That was posted this afternoon & i am waiting for The answer... Pardon me for asking perhaps you could tell me besides spouting bile. Your asking a question with another question is getting rather boring. : )[/p][/quote]Fact is no matter how many question I ask you NEVER answer them - and yet you supposedly support democracy - how can you have a democracy without answers to questions? (hypothetical question!) As for me getting the days wrong yes I am thinking it is Friday as it has been a long week and been travelling for best part off 2.5 days, through the EU! But that post of yours just shows your own hypocrisy!! And if you are supposedly one of the "normal" people wanting to vote for UKIP then God help this country if UKIP ever got in (which it never will to be honest - especially as Farage has turned down the chance to stand for Westminster which, if won, would give more credence to Farage wanting to be part of the Leadership debates next year!) What is boring is that YOU never give any answers, why is that? (hypothetical question). Is it because that is what UKIP is all about - moan moan and moan with no answer to sort out all the so called wrongs! The Righteous One
  • Score: -42

7:43pm Thu 1 May 14

The Righteous One says...

Thomas222

Firstly as I have been away for best part of a week I have seen nothing of UKIP campaign apart from what I have read in the Dutch papers, BBC World service and updates from political friends back in UK - all of hich have been non-favourable to UKIP.

It seems UKIP is going from one disaster to the next every day - and not what you are saying (which is direct from UKIP website - and yet you don't realise that their current manifesto is on the website!!!!!!). From suspending 2 members, to dropping Neil Hamilton s campaign manager (due to his dubious past whilst he was a Tory MP - cash for questions) as well as being berated in the streets by the "normal" people over UKIP's policies to being shown up as a hypocrite when it comes to job for the British and he employing his German wife!!! And lets not forget the racial slant that not just the main parties have against UKIP but the press and the lay-people especially withy the sole use of white people in the poster campaigns!!!

You say that the EU is racist - how can it be when it is welcoming to new countries that want to join the club as well as the many hundreds of religions that thrive within the EU and welcome citizens of various skin colours and ensures that everyone is treated fairly and that the best person is suited to the best job. Now tell me where the EU is a racist bloc?
Thomas222 Firstly as I have been away for best part of a week I have seen nothing of UKIP campaign apart from what I have read in the Dutch papers, BBC World service and updates from political friends back in UK - all of hich have been non-favourable to UKIP. It seems UKIP is going from one disaster to the next every day - and not what you are saying (which is direct from UKIP website - and yet you don't realise that their current manifesto is on the website!!!!!!). From suspending 2 members, to dropping Neil Hamilton s campaign manager (due to his dubious past whilst he was a Tory MP - cash for questions) as well as being berated in the streets by the "normal" people over UKIP's policies to being shown up as a hypocrite when it comes to job for the British and he employing his German wife!!! And lets not forget the racial slant that not just the main parties have against UKIP but the press and the lay-people especially withy the sole use of white people in the poster campaigns!!! You say that the EU is racist - how can it be when it is welcoming to new countries that want to join the club as well as the many hundreds of religions that thrive within the EU and welcome citizens of various skin colours and ensures that everyone is treated fairly and that the best person is suited to the best job. Now tell me where the EU is a racist bloc? The Righteous One
  • Score: -48

7:46pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party.

This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!!

The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear!
I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.
You are against racism?

So why did you post this in another thread....

"thomas222 says...
Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?"

And that was only posted yesterday afternoon - so you have changed your racist views within 12 hours????

And before you say that religion cannot be classed as racist - yes it can as the Oxford English Dictionary meaning of racism is, "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural, religious or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. "

So what are you - a racist, or not?
That was posted this afternoon & i am waiting for The answer... Pardon me for asking perhaps you could tell me besides spouting bile. Your asking a question with another question is getting rather boring. : )
Fact is no matter how many question I ask you NEVER answer them - and yet you supposedly support democracy - how can you have a democracy without answers to questions? (hypothetical question!)

As for me getting the days wrong yes I am thinking it is Friday as it has been a long week and been travelling for best part off 2.5 days, through the EU!

But that post of yours just shows your own hypocrisy!! And if you are supposedly one of the "normal" people wanting to vote for UKIP then God help this country if UKIP ever got in (which it never will to be honest - especially as Farage has turned down the chance to stand for Westminster which, if won, would give more credence to Farage wanting to be part of the Leadership debates next year!)

What is boring is that YOU never give any answers, why is that? (hypothetical question). Is it because that is what UKIP is all about - moan moan and moan with no answer to sort out all the so called wrongs!
You are all washed up i will never comment on anything you say again & i will not reply to you either.. you are a racist in denial & on your way out. Get over it..
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Yet another quality response for a UKIP representative wanting to get votes for his party. This lack of respect will not win votes, in fact it will deter people from voting for UKIP!!! The question is do you want a disrespectful thug representing your franchise? If so then carry on and vote UKIP, otherwise stay well clear![/p][/quote]I am against Racism & thats why i am voting UKIP on the 22 nd May. We must fight hard to stop the Racist EU.[/p][/quote]You are against racism? So why did you post this in another thread.... "thomas222 says... Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?" And that was only posted yesterday afternoon - so you have changed your racist views within 12 hours???? And before you say that religion cannot be classed as racist - yes it can as the Oxford English Dictionary meaning of racism is, "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural, religious or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. " So what are you - a racist, or not?[/p][/quote]That was posted this afternoon & i am waiting for The answer... Pardon me for asking perhaps you could tell me besides spouting bile. Your asking a question with another question is getting rather boring. : )[/p][/quote]Fact is no matter how many question I ask you NEVER answer them - and yet you supposedly support democracy - how can you have a democracy without answers to questions? (hypothetical question!) As for me getting the days wrong yes I am thinking it is Friday as it has been a long week and been travelling for best part off 2.5 days, through the EU! But that post of yours just shows your own hypocrisy!! And if you are supposedly one of the "normal" people wanting to vote for UKIP then God help this country if UKIP ever got in (which it never will to be honest - especially as Farage has turned down the chance to stand for Westminster which, if won, would give more credence to Farage wanting to be part of the Leadership debates next year!) What is boring is that YOU never give any answers, why is that? (hypothetical question). Is it because that is what UKIP is all about - moan moan and moan with no answer to sort out all the so called wrongs![/p][/quote]You are all washed up i will never comment on anything you say again & i will not reply to you either.. you are a racist in denial & on your way out. Get over it.. thomas222
  • Score: 1

7:56pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Thomas222

Firstly as I have been away for best part of a week I have seen nothing of UKIP campaign apart from what I have read in the Dutch papers, BBC World service and updates from political friends back in UK - all of hich have been non-favourable to UKIP.

It seems UKIP is going from one disaster to the next every day - and not what you are saying (which is direct from UKIP website - and yet you don't realise that their current manifesto is on the website!!!!!!). From suspending 2 members, to dropping Neil Hamilton s campaign manager (due to his dubious past whilst he was a Tory MP - cash for questions) as well as being berated in the streets by the "normal" people over UKIP's policies to being shown up as a hypocrite when it comes to job for the British and he employing his German wife!!! And lets not forget the racial slant that not just the main parties have against UKIP but the press and the lay-people especially withy the sole use of white people in the poster campaigns!!!

You say that the EU is racist - how can it be when it is welcoming to new countries that want to join the club as well as the many hundreds of religions that thrive within the EU and welcome citizens of various skin colours and ensures that everyone is treated fairly and that the best person is suited to the best job. Now tell me where the EU is a racist bloc?
One disaster to another are we at UKIP.. Explain this then smart arse.

New members joining the three main parties official face books pages in the last seven days are as follows:

Libdems 148
Torys 300
Labour 539....... While UKIP are 14,282 & still going up at 2000 + a day.

Now who are the ones having the disasters you fool in denial.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Thomas222 Firstly as I have been away for best part of a week I have seen nothing of UKIP campaign apart from what I have read in the Dutch papers, BBC World service and updates from political friends back in UK - all of hich have been non-favourable to UKIP. It seems UKIP is going from one disaster to the next every day - and not what you are saying (which is direct from UKIP website - and yet you don't realise that their current manifesto is on the website!!!!!!). From suspending 2 members, to dropping Neil Hamilton s campaign manager (due to his dubious past whilst he was a Tory MP - cash for questions) as well as being berated in the streets by the "normal" people over UKIP's policies to being shown up as a hypocrite when it comes to job for the British and he employing his German wife!!! And lets not forget the racial slant that not just the main parties have against UKIP but the press and the lay-people especially withy the sole use of white people in the poster campaigns!!! You say that the EU is racist - how can it be when it is welcoming to new countries that want to join the club as well as the many hundreds of religions that thrive within the EU and welcome citizens of various skin colours and ensures that everyone is treated fairly and that the best person is suited to the best job. Now tell me where the EU is a racist bloc?[/p][/quote]One disaster to another are we at UKIP.. Explain this then smart arse. New members joining the three main parties official face books pages in the last seven days are as follows: Libdems 148 Torys 300 Labour 539....... While UKIP are 14,282 & still going up at 2000 + a day. Now who are the ones having the disasters you fool in denial. thomas222
  • Score: 5

11:54pm Thu 1 May 14

Mike23 says...

Just thought I'd comment on the new Mosque building program initiated by Bolton Council, as they closed the thread off….

Anyway, Bolton Council hijacked Farnworth Council and ever since stuck two fingers up to the people of Farnworth. But that's another story…

The strange truth here, is that whilst I don't know any Islamic people, they seem to be a group of individuals who work together for their community.
However, are we talking about Sunni or Shiite….that is the issue.

All I can say is that they are doing much more for their people than other western based faiths.

All the common dominations of Europe seem hell bent on their own destruction; child molesting, nepotism, political interference, regional biases all have left their marks on local communities.

It has been a steady decline and now that some other group which upholds togetherness and strong traditions, is wanting to build its own centres, there is a public outcry.

Personally speaking, I would not choose to follow such teachings, lifestyles or methods of living.

However, what makes me so disappointed about current Catholicism, is that the wealth that such an organisation has access to, still chooses to do very little for the heart of its religion.

How ironic, is that here in the North West of England, Stonyhurst, a privately run school, supposedly set up to train priests, is one of the most expensive education establishments in the area. A large bank account it seems will get you through the eye of a needle….

Whereas the gate of Moses will soon be embracing a new form of idolatry…perhaps a bush will soon burn at Crompton Lodges
Just thought I'd comment on the new Mosque building program initiated by Bolton Council, as they closed the thread off…. Anyway, Bolton Council hijacked Farnworth Council and ever since stuck two fingers up to the people of Farnworth. But that's another story… The strange truth here, is that whilst I don't know any Islamic people, they seem to be a group of individuals who work together for their community. However, are we talking about Sunni or Shiite….that is the issue. All I can say is that they are doing much more for their people than other western based faiths. All the common dominations of Europe seem hell bent on their own destruction; child molesting, nepotism, political interference, regional biases all have left their marks on local communities. It has been a steady decline and now that some other group which upholds togetherness and strong traditions, is wanting to build its own centres, there is a public outcry. Personally speaking, I would not choose to follow such teachings, lifestyles or methods of living. However, what makes me so disappointed about current Catholicism, is that the wealth that such an organisation has access to, still chooses to do very little for the heart of its religion. How ironic, is that here in the North West of England, Stonyhurst, a privately run school, supposedly set up to train priests, is one of the most expensive education establishments in the area. A large bank account it seems will get you through the eye of a needle…. Whereas the gate of Moses will soon be embracing a new form of idolatry…perhaps a bush will soon burn at Crompton Lodges Mike23
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12:27am Fri 2 May 14

andy5747 says...

All the main parties are much of the same. Has the town improved since we voted this lot in? Instead of all voting ukip as a protest vote we should have the option of ' non of the above '. This way the main parties would realise what we think of them and perhaps then they would change.
All the main parties are much of the same. Has the town improved since we voted this lot in? Instead of all voting ukip as a protest vote we should have the option of ' non of the above '. This way the main parties would realise what we think of them and perhaps then they would change. andy5747
  • Score: -1

3:47am Fri 23 May 14

dreamy21 says...

Noel now you have the votes and have kept your seat come and sort farnworth out. Smaller mosque with not turrets. Regenerate the shopping centre and please not with anymore takeaways. Finally the Christmas lights a. Get rid. B. Get new ones! And then can we get our community college back please ore use the building for back to work training. This could all. Come under social responsibilty, widening participation, and employability.
Noel now you have the votes and have kept your seat come and sort farnworth out. Smaller mosque with not turrets. Regenerate the shopping centre and please not with anymore takeaways. Finally the Christmas lights a. Get rid. B. Get new ones! And then can we get our community college back please ore use the building for back to work training. This could all. Come under social responsibilty, widening participation, and employability. dreamy21
  • Score: 0

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