Fury as Tesco leaves 'tatty' fencing at back of Little Lever gardens

This Is Lancashire: Residents Hilary Smith, left, and Rina Horner with prospective councillor for Little Lever Eric Hyde and local activist Paul Richardson Residents Hilary Smith, left, and Rina Horner with prospective councillor for Little Lever Eric Hyde and local activist Paul Richardson

PEOPLE in Little Lever are furious after new fencing was built at the edge of their back gardens — without the old, tatty fencing being removed.

The new fencing has been put up along the back of Ainsworth Road by construction group Bowmer and Kirkland, the firm building a Tesco store on the site of the former Pennine Pets factory.

It was erected this week and has pushed forward existing concrete pillars and barbed wire fencing into residents’ gardens.

Rina Horner, aged 61, of Ainsworth Road, claims she and her neighbours have been told it is their responsibility to take down the old fencing. She said: “The old fencing is not nice and yet the developers are just leaving it there.

“If they are putting up a new fence, common sense would suggest they should take the old one down.

“We have nothing against the building of the new Tesco.”

Neighbour Hilary Smith, aged 69, said: “The new fence makes my garden look like an eyesore. There are concrete pillars, which are falling down, blackberry bushes and rubbish on the inside of the fences.

“The old fencing should have been taken down — it’s not safe to have it there. If there’s a wind, it could fall down at any moment. If you’ve got children playing in the back garden, it’s dangerous.

“I’m determined to get this resolved as quickly as possible.”

Cllr Anthony Connell, who represents Little Lever, has spoken with developers and Mrs Horner.

He said: “I am disappointed. I would have thought it makes sense to take the whole fence down if they have put a new one up.

“It looks a mess at the back of these people’s gardens and it is more difficult to take it down now.

“I hope residents and the developers can come to some sort of agreement.”

Eric Hyde, a prospective councillors for Little Lever, said: “They shouldn’t have started putting the fencing up, they should have removed the old fencing. The residents can’t do anything about it themselves because it’s not their property — it belongs to the developers.”

A Bowmer and Kirkland spokesman added: “Our client’s representative has arranged a meeting with residents and a Bolton Council representative and their discussions will include boundary fencing.

“It is hoped a satisfactory strategy for moving forward will be agreed.”

No planning agreement on removal

BOLTON Council has said there is no agreement between the developers of the Little Lever.

Tesco site and residents of Ainsworth Road that the old fencing would be removed before the new fencing was put up.

A representative from the council’s planning committee will visit residents from Ainsworth Road, along with developers from the Bowmer and Kirkland group, today.

A council spokesman said: “There is no planning agreement in place which requires the existing fencing to be removed before the new fences are installed.

“However, we are meeting the developers about the old fencing to try and reach a solution that is suitable for all concerned.

“The new fencing which is being erected is in accordance with the planning approval for the site.”

The installation of the new fencing began earlier this week.

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10:49am Fri 4 Apr 14

oftbewildered2 says...

whilst I emphasise with the situation - this fencing has not suddenly become tatty, unsightly and unsafe. It must have been like that for some time. Unfortunately the question of 'who is responsible' for boundary fencing is a minefield. I am sure it will be in the house deeds somewhere (sounds like this is Council owned property, so they will know). I hope they get it resolved soon.
whilst I emphasise with the situation - this fencing has not suddenly become tatty, unsightly and unsafe. It must have been like that for some time. Unfortunately the question of 'who is responsible' for boundary fencing is a minefield. I am sure it will be in the house deeds somewhere (sounds like this is Council owned property, so they will know). I hope they get it resolved soon. oftbewildered2
  • Score: 8

11:25am Fri 4 Apr 14

paulrich says...

It would be reasonable for the residents, when consulted on the plans, to conclude " Oh, goody - I'm going to get a new back fence - I'll support the application." - this is whether or not they were actual promised this - which I don't know about.
It would be reasonable for the residents, when consulted on the plans, to conclude " Oh, goody - I'm going to get a new back fence - I'll support the application." - this is whether or not they were actual promised this - which I don't know about. paulrich
  • Score: 1

2:53pm Fri 4 Apr 14

hal pel says...

These are the kind of people that will moan about anything either way. They're probably hoping for a small amount of compensation. As oftbewildered2 quite rightly points out "this fencing has not suddenly become tatty, unsightly and unsafe." As for Eric Hyde, a prospective councillor is all he'll ever be. After receiving some of Mr.Hyde's poorly produced campaign literature, I doubt that he's capable of much more than organising a trip to the sweet shop.
These are the kind of people that will moan about anything either way. They're probably hoping for a small amount of compensation. As oftbewildered2 quite rightly points out "this fencing has not suddenly become tatty, unsightly and unsafe." As for Eric Hyde, a prospective councillor is all he'll ever be. After receiving some of Mr.Hyde's poorly produced campaign literature, I doubt that he's capable of much more than organising a trip to the sweet shop. hal pel
  • Score: 10

5:25pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Andyroost says...

Can you believe the neck on these tenants, get a free fence and 6 inches of land and have the cheek to moan, Id have put a row of conifers in, costing half the price and 5 years down the line they would be higher than their houses, that would really wind them up and give them something to moan about. Wait till they need staining if they havent already been put in the log burner. Happy Days
Can you believe the neck on these tenants, get a free fence and 6 inches of land and have the cheek to moan, Id have put a row of conifers in, costing half the price and 5 years down the line they would be higher than their houses, that would really wind them up and give them something to moan about. Wait till they need staining if they havent already been put in the log burner. Happy Days Andyroost
  • Score: 6

7:18pm Fri 4 Apr 14

BIG ERN says...

Death and famine in the world and it's a fence that gets these yahoos riled up..
Death and famine in the world and it's a fence that gets these yahoos riled up.. BIG ERN
  • Score: 4

8:51pm Fri 4 Apr 14

CatsMotherUK says...

You people that have commented so far are obviously not residents of LL - if you were you would know that this new Tesco has been a point of contention in the village since it's announcement, with plans to re-route traffic, the upheaval during the building work and the prospect of late night/ early morning deliveries by big trucks into a residential area all being issues that have been raised. The new store is literally surrounded by houses, which are mainly privately owned, and my elderly Aunt and Uncle live on one of the streets that backs onto the site.
The main issue is not that the fencing makes the old one look untidy (although yes, it already was tatty, the site has been derelict for a few years since Pennine burnt down) but that the new fencing "has pushed forward existing concrete pillars and barbed wire fencing into residents’ gardens. " This old fencing was part of the property that the developers bought, so should have been removed by them first.
Also, if anyone with an ounce of common sense had thought about it, they'd have realised it would be much easier to remove it onto open land rather than the residents being expected to tear it down and drag it through their gardens to the front for it to be disposed of!
Personally if I was the developer I would have discussed this at one of the several meetings that have been held and offered to provide this service as a way to sweeten the pot to the residents.
Oh and HAL PEL- re your rather nasty and totally un-called for comments regarding Mr Hyde: just for your information Eric has been instrumental around Little Lever and Darcy Lever in getting lots of much needed work done in the area. He's campaigned on our behalf, and been successful, in getting our pavements fixed, roads repaired, street lighting fixed / installed in alleyways, road signs replaced, graffiti cleaned up.. the list goes on.
He's currently campaigning for a lowered speed limit on MY estate (Ladyshore) to stop idiots in cars using the long straight streets as a racetrack. He was hand-delivering his leaflets, HIMSELF yesterday afternoon, and took the time to stop and have a chat with me about my concerns (ridiculous double parking and the problems we're having with groups of Teens). I don't see the ACTUAL local councillors doing that!
So what if his flyers aren't all printed in colour on shiny paper - who the heck cares; well you obviously! I'd rather have a councillor that gives a monkeys about the area he represents and his constituents - the bumf we get from Labour every campaign isn't worth the shiny paper it's printed on and the local Labour MPs haven't even got a Facebook page you can contact them on! Eric has. I know because I looked.
I have, and will continue to vote for Eric in local elections, he's a local hero in my opinion (and I'm not the only one around here to say that).
You people that have commented so far are obviously not residents of LL - if you were you would know that this new Tesco has been a point of contention in the village since it's announcement, with plans to re-route traffic, the upheaval during the building work and the prospect of late night/ early morning deliveries by big trucks into a residential area all being issues that have been raised. The new store is literally surrounded by houses, which are mainly privately owned, and my elderly Aunt and Uncle live on one of the streets that backs onto the site. The main issue is not that the fencing makes the old one look untidy (although yes, it already was tatty, the site has been derelict for a few years since Pennine burnt down) but that the new fencing "has pushed forward existing concrete pillars and barbed wire fencing into residents’ gardens. " This old fencing was part of the property that the developers bought, so should have been removed by them first. Also, if anyone with an ounce of common sense had thought about it, they'd have realised it would be much easier to remove it onto open land rather than the residents being expected to tear it down and drag it through their gardens to the front for it to be disposed of! Personally if I was the developer I would have discussed this at one of the several meetings that have been held and offered to provide this service as a way to sweeten the pot to the residents. Oh and HAL PEL- re your rather nasty and totally un-called for comments regarding Mr Hyde: just for your information Eric has been instrumental around Little Lever and Darcy Lever in getting lots of much needed work done in the area. He's campaigned on our behalf, and been successful, in getting our pavements fixed, roads repaired, street lighting fixed / installed in alleyways, road signs replaced, graffiti cleaned up.. the list goes on. He's currently campaigning for a lowered speed limit on MY estate (Ladyshore) to stop idiots in cars using the long straight streets as a racetrack. He was hand-delivering his leaflets, HIMSELF yesterday afternoon, and took the time to stop and have a chat with me about my concerns (ridiculous double parking and the problems we're having with groups of Teens). I don't see the ACTUAL local councillors doing that! So what if his flyers aren't all printed in colour on shiny paper - who the heck cares; well you obviously! I'd rather have a councillor that gives a monkeys about the area he represents and his constituents - the bumf we get from Labour every campaign isn't worth the shiny paper it's printed on and the local Labour MPs haven't even got a Facebook page you can contact them on! Eric has. I know because I looked. I have, and will continue to vote for Eric in local elections, he's a local hero in my opinion (and I'm not the only one around here to say that). CatsMotherUK
  • Score: 0

11:21pm Fri 4 Apr 14

hal pel says...

CatsMotherUK wrote:
You people that have commented so far are obviously not residents of LL - if you were you would know that this new Tesco has been a point of contention in the village since it's announcement, with plans to re-route traffic, the upheaval during the building work and the prospect of late night/ early morning deliveries by big trucks into a residential area all being issues that have been raised. The new store is literally surrounded by houses, which are mainly privately owned, and my elderly Aunt and Uncle live on one of the streets that backs onto the site.
The main issue is not that the fencing makes the old one look untidy (although yes, it already was tatty, the site has been derelict for a few years since Pennine burnt down) but that the new fencing "has pushed forward existing concrete pillars and barbed wire fencing into residents’ gardens. " This old fencing was part of the property that the developers bought, so should have been removed by them first.
Also, if anyone with an ounce of common sense had thought about it, they'd have realised it would be much easier to remove it onto open land rather than the residents being expected to tear it down and drag it through their gardens to the front for it to be disposed of!
Personally if I was the developer I would have discussed this at one of the several meetings that have been held and offered to provide this service as a way to sweeten the pot to the residents.
Oh and HAL PEL- re your rather nasty and totally un-called for comments regarding Mr Hyde: just for your information Eric has been instrumental around Little Lever and Darcy Lever in getting lots of much needed work done in the area. He's campaigned on our behalf, and been successful, in getting our pavements fixed, roads repaired, street lighting fixed / installed in alleyways, road signs replaced, graffiti cleaned up.. the list goes on.
He's currently campaigning for a lowered speed limit on MY estate (Ladyshore) to stop idiots in cars using the long straight streets as a racetrack. He was hand-delivering his leaflets, HIMSELF yesterday afternoon, and took the time to stop and have a chat with me about my concerns (ridiculous double parking and the problems we're having with groups of Teens). I don't see the ACTUAL local councillors doing that!
So what if his flyers aren't all printed in colour on shiny paper - who the heck cares; well you obviously! I'd rather have a councillor that gives a monkeys about the area he represents and his constituents - the bumf we get from Labour every campaign isn't worth the shiny paper it's printed on and the local Labour MPs haven't even got a Facebook page you can contact them on! Eric has. I know because I looked.
I have, and will continue to vote for Eric in local elections, he's a local hero in my opinion (and I'm not the only one around here to say that).
I've lived in Little Lever since 1979.
[quote][p][bold]CatsMotherUK[/bold] wrote: You people that have commented so far are obviously not residents of LL - if you were you would know that this new Tesco has been a point of contention in the village since it's announcement, with plans to re-route traffic, the upheaval during the building work and the prospect of late night/ early morning deliveries by big trucks into a residential area all being issues that have been raised. The new store is literally surrounded by houses, which are mainly privately owned, and my elderly Aunt and Uncle live on one of the streets that backs onto the site. The main issue is not that the fencing makes the old one look untidy (although yes, it already was tatty, the site has been derelict for a few years since Pennine burnt down) but that the new fencing "has pushed forward existing concrete pillars and barbed wire fencing into residents’ gardens. " This old fencing was part of the property that the developers bought, so should have been removed by them first. Also, if anyone with an ounce of common sense had thought about it, they'd have realised it would be much easier to remove it onto open land rather than the residents being expected to tear it down and drag it through their gardens to the front for it to be disposed of! Personally if I was the developer I would have discussed this at one of the several meetings that have been held and offered to provide this service as a way to sweeten the pot to the residents. Oh and HAL PEL- re your rather nasty and totally un-called for comments regarding Mr Hyde: just for your information Eric has been instrumental around Little Lever and Darcy Lever in getting lots of much needed work done in the area. He's campaigned on our behalf, and been successful, in getting our pavements fixed, roads repaired, street lighting fixed / installed in alleyways, road signs replaced, graffiti cleaned up.. the list goes on. He's currently campaigning for a lowered speed limit on MY estate (Ladyshore) to stop idiots in cars using the long straight streets as a racetrack. He was hand-delivering his leaflets, HIMSELF yesterday afternoon, and took the time to stop and have a chat with me about my concerns (ridiculous double parking and the problems we're having with groups of Teens). I don't see the ACTUAL local councillors doing that! So what if his flyers aren't all printed in colour on shiny paper - who the heck cares; well you obviously! I'd rather have a councillor that gives a monkeys about the area he represents and his constituents - the bumf we get from Labour every campaign isn't worth the shiny paper it's printed on and the local Labour MPs haven't even got a Facebook page you can contact them on! Eric has. I know because I looked. I have, and will continue to vote for Eric in local elections, he's a local hero in my opinion (and I'm not the only one around here to say that).[/p][/quote]I've lived in Little Lever since 1979. hal pel
  • Score: 5

10:57am Sat 5 Apr 14

CatsMotherUK says...

"I've lived in Little Lever since 1979."
Well then I'm surprised at your attitude towards the only (political) person in this village that is actually trying to do things to keep it a nice place!
I've lived here since '73, my Dad still lives here and my 2 of my Aunts and Uncles and a cousin. We've all commented on how the village has declined over the years and how Eric is doing great work.
"I've lived in Little Lever since 1979." Well then I'm surprised at your attitude towards the only (political) person in this village that is actually trying to do things to keep it a nice place! I've lived here since '73, my Dad still lives here and my 2 of my Aunts and Uncles and a cousin. We've all commented on how the village has declined over the years and how Eric is doing great work. CatsMotherUK
  • Score: -2

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