Mixed reaction to Rawtenstall town centre plan

An artist’s impression of the plans with the grassed roofs, and open spaces,

An artist’s impression of the plans with the grassed roofs, and open spaces,

First published in News

OPINION is divided on plans for the future of Rawtenstall town centre following a public consultation on the masterplan.

Rossendale Together Barnfield Partnership unveiled initial ideas for the redevelopment, including a town square, a new bus station and grass-covered roofs.

Council leader Alyson Barnes said she was very happy with the turnout for the two-day consultation at Longholme Methodist Church.

She said: “It was fantastic to see so many people taking the opportunity to look at the plans and discuss the ideas with the architectural team.

“I think the plans demonstrate that we really mean business and are committed to doing what’s right for Rossendale.”

The plans have been put forward by the board, comprised of the council, development partners Barnfield, Together Housing and designers Day Architectural.

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However the proposals were criticised by Rossendale MP Jake Berry, who said: “There were some interesting ideas, with what appeared to be a lot of steel, glass and green roofs.

“I’m worried however that it won’t fit in with the rest of Bank Street.

“I’m sure the old Valley Centre looked fresh and modern when it was first built, but it dated very quickly and I don’t want us to be left in the same situation in another 20 years.

“My personal preference would be for a development that is more in keeping with the traditional look of Bank Street that keeps as much open space as possible.”

Camden Blomerley, secretary of Rossendale Civic Pride, said she was ‘disappointed’ with the designs.

She said: “The green roofs look good on an architect’s drawing board, but in practice, they would be very unlikely to work.

“Once you take the green roofs out of the picture, you are just left with concrete and glass.

“This is such an opportunity, and I don’t want it to go to waste.

“In order to attract businesses and new custom, the space needs to be used in an innovative manner, complimenting the buildings that currently occupy this conservation area.”

The plans can be viewed via www.spinningpoint.com, and comments can be emailed to info@spinningpoint.com

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11:47am Fri 14 Mar 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

If you apply for an extension on a listed building they make you design it to look as modern and distinctive as possible to stand out from the original building. If you said you wanted to build an extension that replicates and imitates the original design you would be laughed out of the planners office!

This same theory should stand for the town centre too, I say go for big glass buildings that scream "look at me I'm new" rather than "look at me I'm fake"

Look at it in a bigger scale in any city, modern glass works well next to traditional.
If you apply for an extension on a listed building they make you design it to look as modern and distinctive as possible to stand out from the original building. If you said you wanted to build an extension that replicates and imitates the original design you would be laughed out of the planners office! This same theory should stand for the town centre too, I say go for big glass buildings that scream "look at me I'm new" rather than "look at me I'm fake" Look at it in a bigger scale in any city, modern glass works well next to traditional. HelmshoreMan2010
  • Score: -5

11:47pm Fri 14 Mar 14

TheReality says...

HelmshoreMan2010 wrote:
If you apply for an extension on a listed building they make you design it to look as modern and distinctive as possible to stand out from the original building. If you said you wanted to build an extension that replicates and imitates the original design you would be laughed out of the planners office!

This same theory should stand for the town centre too, I say go for big glass buildings that scream "look at me I'm new" rather than "look at me I'm fake"

Look at it in a bigger scale in any city, modern glass works well next to traditional.
You absolute moron (oh and i read your comments a lot and its nothing new). Traditional building guidance is done to protect the original structure. Why would we ever protect the old valley center? It was a eye sore even when it was built! Similar to what I expect will be built in its place! (especially if people like you have a say) If people do take on old heritage properties then yes they should be allowed certain privileges to develop the plot to a certain and maybe more modern standard. When it is appropriate! If not then sod off back to your little upper class bubbles and don't pester us, and don't ruin our history for profit.
[quote][p][bold]HelmshoreMan2010[/bold] wrote: If you apply for an extension on a listed building they make you design it to look as modern and distinctive as possible to stand out from the original building. If you said you wanted to build an extension that replicates and imitates the original design you would be laughed out of the planners office! This same theory should stand for the town centre too, I say go for big glass buildings that scream "look at me I'm new" rather than "look at me I'm fake" Look at it in a bigger scale in any city, modern glass works well next to traditional.[/p][/quote]You absolute moron (oh and i read your comments a lot and its nothing new). Traditional building guidance is done to protect the original structure. Why would we ever protect the old valley center? It was a eye sore even when it was built! Similar to what I expect will be built in its place! (especially if people like you have a say) If people do take on old heritage properties then yes they should be allowed certain privileges to develop the plot to a certain and maybe more modern standard. When it is appropriate! If not then sod off back to your little upper class bubbles and don't pester us, and don't ruin our history for profit. TheReality
  • Score: 2

11:57pm Fri 14 Mar 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

I'm glad you think I'm a moron, it reminds me I'm doing well with my life if people like you don't agree.

As for your comment, I don't really get the point to be honest. What history are we trying to protect? There is currently nothing there and what was there before was a concrete block more at home in Coventry.

What would you like there all wise and mighty one? This will be interesting to hear!
I'm glad you think I'm a moron, it reminds me I'm doing well with my life if people like you don't agree. As for your comment, I don't really get the point to be honest. What history are we trying to protect? There is currently nothing there and what was there before was a concrete block more at home in Coventry. What would you like there all wise and mighty one? This will be interesting to hear! HelmshoreMan2010
  • Score: -3

9:55am Sat 15 Mar 14

TheReality says...

HelmshoreMan2010 wrote:
I'm glad you think I'm a moron, it reminds me I'm doing well with my life if people like you don't agree.

As for your comment, I don't really get the point to be honest. What history are we trying to protect? There is currently nothing there and what was there before was a concrete block more at home in Coventry.

What would you like there all wise and mighty one? This will be interesting to hear!
Its not about the specifics of what is there its about having buildings that are in keeping with the original structures. That god awful Asda should have never been built and lets face it the only reason it was is due to some palms being greased, just like they have done with halting the roadworks near Asda over the Easter break. Anyway what we don't need is a stark modern looking piece of kak standing in the middle of the town. May as well move to Middleton if that's going to happen! Oh and I agree what was there was awful too but that's not to say we should repeat history.
[quote][p][bold]HelmshoreMan2010[/bold] wrote: I'm glad you think I'm a moron, it reminds me I'm doing well with my life if people like you don't agree. As for your comment, I don't really get the point to be honest. What history are we trying to protect? There is currently nothing there and what was there before was a concrete block more at home in Coventry. What would you like there all wise and mighty one? This will be interesting to hear![/p][/quote]Its not about the specifics of what is there its about having buildings that are in keeping with the original structures. That god awful Asda should have never been built and lets face it the only reason it was is due to some palms being greased, just like they have done with halting the roadworks near Asda over the Easter break. Anyway what we don't need is a stark modern looking piece of kak standing in the middle of the town. May as well move to Middleton if that's going to happen! Oh and I agree what was there was awful too but that's not to say we should repeat history. TheReality
  • Score: 7

2:46pm Sat 15 Mar 14

rumblesteveskin says...

Barnfield's planned take over continues!!
Barnfield's planned take over continues!! rumblesteveskin
  • Score: 6

3:49pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Loving lances says...

rumblesteveskin wrote:
Barnfield's planned take over continues!!
But Andy McNae likes them.
[quote][p][bold]rumblesteveskin[/bold] wrote: Barnfield's planned take over continues!![/p][/quote]But Andy McNae likes them. Loving lances
  • Score: 3

10:06am Mon 17 Mar 14

GAC says...

but but but the council gets a group discount the more they use them lol.

having worked in some of barnfields newer buildings it better be a good discount as they will leak and have issues for a good couple of years afterwards.
but but but the council gets a group discount the more they use them lol. having worked in some of barnfields newer buildings it better be a good discount as they will leak and have issues for a good couple of years afterwards. GAC
  • Score: 2

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