'There was a humiliating, sub-human brawl to get the mid-morning train - we were beaten to it by younger, stronger, more forceful passengers'

This Is Lancashire: 'There was a humiliating, sub-human brawl to get the mid-morning train - we were beaten to it by younger, stronger, more forceful passengers' 'There was a humiliating, sub-human brawl to get the mid-morning train - we were beaten to it by younger, stronger, more forceful passengers'

THERE’S just two days to go until we present our 1,000 strong petition against overcrowding on Bolton’s trains to Downing Street.

On Wednesday, The Bolton News will join MPs David Crausby, Julie Hilling and Yasmin Qureshi as they hand in the petition to Parliament, and to Number 10.

SIGN OUR PETITION HERE

Over the past three months we have been collecting signatures calling for an end to Bolton’s “cattle truck” rail service and asking train bosses to bring back axed carriages during peak hours.

Hundreds of people have signed the petition and shared their horror stories about commuting in sweaty, claustrophobic and occasionally dangerous carriages.

We need transport bosses to listen to your concerns and give Bolton the railway service it deserves.

Please sign our petition in person at The Bolton News office in Victoria Square, or online.
Here, we share some of the concerns and stories sent in by Bolton News readers:

■ Michael Tatman, aged 80 of Eden Street, in Astley Bridge, said taking a train from Bolton was like stepping back into the Dark Ages.

He said: “My wife and I had to go to London last week. There was a humiliating, sub-human brawl to get on the mid-morning train to Manchester. We were beaten to it by younger, stronger, more forceful passengers.

“We had to wait for the next train, and made our connection to London by a painful, undignified, breathless two minutes.

“Why is it not possible to use a public service without being treated like animals?”

■ Peter Burniston, aged 64, of Lakenheath Drive in Sharples, said he regularly uses the service from Bolton to Manchester Airport.

He said: “My company pays for a first class ticket which guarantees me absolutely nothing. No seat, no room, as the whole carriage is sardine packed, and on some occasions not even the ability to board the train.

“My next business trip requires me to be at the airport for 9am. I now have no alternative but to choose a taxi and run the gauntlet of the M60, but at least this mode of transport is a known gamble with reliability and comfort.”

■ Wendy Hesketh, aged 41, of Sutherland Road in Heaton, said it is a challenge to commute to Manchester every day.

She said: “All too often I am not physically able to get onto trains due to them being crammed with people and have to let them leave without me and wait for a later train.

“Standing cramped, pushed against other people in the doorways and aisles of trains is unsafe and unhygienic — when you are so closely packed and inhumane. Often people feel ill because it is so hot and humid.

“I am pleased if I manage to get the train I need at the first attempt and am able to stand on the journey in not too much discomfort – and I pay almost £1,000 year for this luxury!”

■ Liz Whitfield, aged 34, of The Cheethams in Blackrod, said getting a seat during her daily commute is ‘like Christmas’.

She said: “The service now is stretched beyond belief, but with these cuts it’s just ridiculous. The last thing you need at the end of a busy day is having to worry about what time you'll get home, what train you can squeeze on, how long your wait is till the next, and if you’ll fit on that. It’s just a joke.

“Normally I’m stood in a doorway, someone’s armpit in my face trying to hold on, and you get shouted at by the conductors to stand in the loo. It’s terrible conditions and I pay £100 a month for this!”

■ Kyle Waters, aged 28, of Brentwood Drive in Farnworth, said the whole service is a ‘complete joke’.

He said: “The trains are always packed full, it costs me £27 per week to commute to and from work, which I feel is enough money without being made to feel like cattle being transported from farm to slaughterhouse. We need better service, more carriages and more frequent trains, not less.”

■ Cath Gallager, aged 48, from Rydal Road in Heaton, said she’s spent almost 29 years struggling to get on a train every morning from Bolton to Manchester.

She said: “The platform is always packed and sometimes I can't get on the train I need, due to overcrowding.

“On occasions, this has made me late for work. My husband says buying a county card annual ticket doesn't guarantee me a seat on a train. Sadly, over the past 15 years or so, it hasn't even guaranteed me standing room on a peak service.”

■ Jean Howarth, aged 83, of Chorley New Road, Horwich, said: “I travel to Manchester frequently and always feel guilty when a younger person gives up their seat for me, particularly on the return journey when they have been working all day. Many of them have to endure these grossly overcrowded situations every day.

“The conditions are becoming dangerous and if there were to be an accident the impact would be horrendous.”

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11:39am Mon 3 Mar 14

Jim271 says...

Over the last ten years the service has been cut whilst the prices have gone up above the rate of inflation.

Its a sorry state of affairs but this petition will achieve absolutely nothing, but at least it will give our MPs something to do in-between filling out expenses forms.
Over the last ten years the service has been cut whilst the prices have gone up above the rate of inflation. Its a sorry state of affairs but this petition will achieve absolutely nothing, but at least it will give our MPs something to do in-between filling out expenses forms. Jim271
  • Score: 24

12:17pm Mon 3 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

The price rise is out of Northern's hands as that is demanded by the Government to help lower the amount fo subsidy the Government gives to each Train Operating Company - although it doesn't help the situation.

With regards to reduce service - the missing train is operated by First TPE and not Northern, BUT Northern have not helped themselves with the inefficient use of rail carriages and the ever continuous rotation of them, which doesn't happen anywhere else in the world - it should be the same train units with the same staff every day (execept for staff holidays and coach maintenance.

For instance the 6:56 this morning was 4 coaches!!!! Instead of 3 coaches and it was more than half empty, but I bet the 7:59 my usual train was only 3 coaches and bursting at the seams, which is normal for that service!!!!! Now that is due to lack of effcicency and management by the depot and operations managers (although Northern Rail do like to blame the Government for anything that goes wrong on their network!!!)
The price rise is out of Northern's hands as that is demanded by the Government to help lower the amount fo subsidy the Government gives to each Train Operating Company - although it doesn't help the situation. With regards to reduce service - the missing train is operated by First TPE and not Northern, BUT Northern have not helped themselves with the inefficient use of rail carriages and the ever continuous rotation of them, which doesn't happen anywhere else in the world - it should be the same train units with the same staff every day (execept for staff holidays and coach maintenance. For instance the 6:56 this morning was 4 coaches!!!! Instead of 3 coaches and it was more than half empty, but I bet the 7:59 my usual train was only 3 coaches and bursting at the seams, which is normal for that service!!!!! Now that is due to lack of effcicency and management by the depot and operations managers (although Northern Rail do like to blame the Government for anything that goes wrong on their network!!!) The Righteous One
  • Score: -15

12:29pm Mon 3 Mar 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
The price rise is out of Northern's hands as that is demanded by the Government to help lower the amount fo subsidy the Government gives to each Train Operating Company - although it doesn't help the situation.

With regards to reduce service - the missing train is operated by First TPE and not Northern, BUT Northern have not helped themselves with the inefficient use of rail carriages and the ever continuous rotation of them, which doesn't happen anywhere else in the world - it should be the same train units with the same staff every day (execept for staff holidays and coach maintenance.

For instance the 6:56 this morning was 4 coaches!!!! Instead of 3 coaches and it was more than half empty, but I bet the 7:59 my usual train was only 3 coaches and bursting at the seams, which is normal for that service!!!!! Now that is due to lack of effcicency and management by the depot and operations managers (although Northern Rail do like to blame the Government for anything that goes wrong on their network!!!)
Were all the coaches open on the 06.56 this morning?
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: The price rise is out of Northern's hands as that is demanded by the Government to help lower the amount fo subsidy the Government gives to each Train Operating Company - although it doesn't help the situation. With regards to reduce service - the missing train is operated by First TPE and not Northern, BUT Northern have not helped themselves with the inefficient use of rail carriages and the ever continuous rotation of them, which doesn't happen anywhere else in the world - it should be the same train units with the same staff every day (execept for staff holidays and coach maintenance. For instance the 6:56 this morning was 4 coaches!!!! Instead of 3 coaches and it was more than half empty, but I bet the 7:59 my usual train was only 3 coaches and bursting at the seams, which is normal for that service!!!!! Now that is due to lack of effcicency and management by the depot and operations managers (although Northern Rail do like to blame the Government for anything that goes wrong on their network!!!)[/p][/quote]Were all the coaches open on the 06.56 this morning? FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: -4

12:29pm Mon 3 Mar 14

dominoman says...

As Jim271 says, nothing will come of this petition, There's been this problem for years with commuter trains going into London & nowt's been done about it.
They just want your money.
As Jim271 says, nothing will come of this petition, There's been this problem for years with commuter trains going into London & nowt's been done about it. They just want your money. dominoman
  • Score: 11

12:34pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Simply boycotting the rail services would make more of a point than a petition.

I commend the actions, but we do not live in a Democracy in which the voices of people are carried unless the words are of benefit to government and their corporate owners.

The real way to use Democracy within a capitalist version of Democracy is to vote with you money. If people did not purchase a ticket, instead opting to travel by coach (group or club arranged) or via car sharing, just for a short time at least, then I think that would be more effective.

But I know convenience is an absolute pig and our bosses do not help us with... "you are late... fired!"

We are kind of stuck with our hands tied, and these corporations along with government know this.
Simply boycotting the rail services would make more of a point than a petition. I commend the actions, but we do not live in a Democracy in which the voices of people are carried unless the words are of benefit to government and their corporate owners. The real way to use Democracy within a capitalist version of Democracy is to vote with you money. If people did not purchase a ticket, instead opting to travel by coach (group or club arranged) or via car sharing, just for a short time at least, then I think that would be more effective. But I know convenience is an absolute pig and our bosses do not help us with... "you are late... fired!" We are kind of stuck with our hands tied, and these corporations along with government know this. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 7

12:50pm Mon 3 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Simply boycotting the rail services would make more of a point than a petition.

I commend the actions, but we do not live in a Democracy in which the voices of people are carried unless the words are of benefit to government and their corporate owners.

The real way to use Democracy within a capitalist version of Democracy is to vote with you money. If people did not purchase a ticket, instead opting to travel by coach (group or club arranged) or via car sharing, just for a short time at least, then I think that would be more effective.

But I know convenience is an absolute pig and our bosses do not help us with... "you are late... fired!"

We are kind of stuck with our hands tied, and these corporations along with government know this.
The rail company would not lose out!!!!!

They already get subsidised by teh Government and any money they do make is pure profit as they get paid to operate the services, again, by the Government!

The onlt sector that would lose out would be the passengers who would get caught up in an ever increasing traffic jam. East Lncas losing 1 lane in each direction, most roads in Salford heading towards manchester are no only 1 lane thansk to bus lanes. East Lancs is now only 40mph instead of 50mph.

Traffic lights designed not to work in sequence

Not enough buses to carry the extra capacity

Not enough car park spaces for the extra traffic

Yes it is a catch22 situation and it is a situation that has been created by various councils in Greater Manchester and more importantly by TfGM!
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: Simply boycotting the rail services would make more of a point than a petition. I commend the actions, but we do not live in a Democracy in which the voices of people are carried unless the words are of benefit to government and their corporate owners. The real way to use Democracy within a capitalist version of Democracy is to vote with you money. If people did not purchase a ticket, instead opting to travel by coach (group or club arranged) or via car sharing, just for a short time at least, then I think that would be more effective. But I know convenience is an absolute pig and our bosses do not help us with... "you are late... fired!" We are kind of stuck with our hands tied, and these corporations along with government know this.[/p][/quote]The rail company would not lose out!!!!! They already get subsidised by teh Government and any money they do make is pure profit as they get paid to operate the services, again, by the Government! The onlt sector that would lose out would be the passengers who would get caught up in an ever increasing traffic jam. East Lncas losing 1 lane in each direction, most roads in Salford heading towards manchester are no only 1 lane thansk to bus lanes. East Lancs is now only 40mph instead of 50mph. Traffic lights designed not to work in sequence Not enough buses to carry the extra capacity Not enough car park spaces for the extra traffic Yes it is a catch22 situation and it is a situation that has been created by various councils in Greater Manchester and more importantly by TfGM! The Righteous One
  • Score: -39

12:53pm Mon 3 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
The price rise is out of Northern's hands as that is demanded by the Government to help lower the amount fo subsidy the Government gives to each Train Operating Company - although it doesn't help the situation.

With regards to reduce service - the missing train is operated by First TPE and not Northern, BUT Northern have not helped themselves with the inefficient use of rail carriages and the ever continuous rotation of them, which doesn't happen anywhere else in the world - it should be the same train units with the same staff every day (execept for staff holidays and coach maintenance.

For instance the 6:56 this morning was 4 coaches!!!! Instead of 3 coaches and it was more than half empty, but I bet the 7:59 my usual train was only 3 coaches and bursting at the seams, which is normal for that service!!!!! Now that is due to lack of effcicency and management by the depot and operations managers (although Northern Rail do like to blame the Government for anything that goes wrong on their network!!!)
Were all the coaches open on the 06.56 this morning?
I presume so, as I was in the first carriage, and it was empty with more than half the seats not occupied and definitely no one was standing in the first 2 coaches (I had clear signt of both front coaches) - and it was the all-stopper to Manchester (including Clifton) so picked up passengers along the way and still definitely not full. I used to catch that train everyday (when I last worked in Manchester over 8 years ago) it was always 2 coaches (class142's) and everyone used to be squashed on it with no room for any more by the time it reached Kearsley.
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: The price rise is out of Northern's hands as that is demanded by the Government to help lower the amount fo subsidy the Government gives to each Train Operating Company - although it doesn't help the situation. With regards to reduce service - the missing train is operated by First TPE and not Northern, BUT Northern have not helped themselves with the inefficient use of rail carriages and the ever continuous rotation of them, which doesn't happen anywhere else in the world - it should be the same train units with the same staff every day (execept for staff holidays and coach maintenance. For instance the 6:56 this morning was 4 coaches!!!! Instead of 3 coaches and it was more than half empty, but I bet the 7:59 my usual train was only 3 coaches and bursting at the seams, which is normal for that service!!!!! Now that is due to lack of effcicency and management by the depot and operations managers (although Northern Rail do like to blame the Government for anything that goes wrong on their network!!!)[/p][/quote]Were all the coaches open on the 06.56 this morning?[/p][/quote]I presume so, as I was in the first carriage, and it was empty with more than half the seats not occupied and definitely no one was standing in the first 2 coaches (I had clear signt of both front coaches) - and it was the all-stopper to Manchester (including Clifton) so picked up passengers along the way and still definitely not full. I used to catch that train everyday (when I last worked in Manchester over 8 years ago) it was always 2 coaches (class142's) and everyone used to be squashed on it with no room for any more by the time it reached Kearsley. The Righteous One
  • Score: -15

12:58pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Simply boycotting the rail services would make more of a point than a petition.

I commend the actions, but we do not live in a Democracy in which the voices of people are carried unless the words are of benefit to government and their corporate owners.

The real way to use Democracy within a capitalist version of Democracy is to vote with you money. If people did not purchase a ticket, instead opting to travel by coach (group or club arranged) or via car sharing, just for a short time at least, then I think that would be more effective.

But I know convenience is an absolute pig and our bosses do not help us with... "you are late... fired!"

We are kind of stuck with our hands tied, and these corporations along with government know this.
The rail company would not lose out!!!!!

They already get subsidised by teh Government and any money they do make is pure profit as they get paid to operate the services, again, by the Government!

The onlt sector that would lose out would be the passengers who would get caught up in an ever increasing traffic jam. East Lncas losing 1 lane in each direction, most roads in Salford heading towards manchester are no only 1 lane thansk to bus lanes. East Lancs is now only 40mph instead of 50mph.

Traffic lights designed not to work in sequence

Not enough buses to carry the extra capacity

Not enough car park spaces for the extra traffic

Yes it is a catch22 situation and it is a situation that has been created by various councils in Greater Manchester and more importantly by TfGM!
I concur...

And rightly pointed out by yourself how we are pretty much screwed by corporations with their government fiends.

Still a token protest would still be better than listening to drivel in parliament where corporate tones and generic BS statements will be made.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: Simply boycotting the rail services would make more of a point than a petition. I commend the actions, but we do not live in a Democracy in which the voices of people are carried unless the words are of benefit to government and their corporate owners. The real way to use Democracy within a capitalist version of Democracy is to vote with you money. If people did not purchase a ticket, instead opting to travel by coach (group or club arranged) or via car sharing, just for a short time at least, then I think that would be more effective. But I know convenience is an absolute pig and our bosses do not help us with... "you are late... fired!" We are kind of stuck with our hands tied, and these corporations along with government know this.[/p][/quote]The rail company would not lose out!!!!! They already get subsidised by teh Government and any money they do make is pure profit as they get paid to operate the services, again, by the Government! The onlt sector that would lose out would be the passengers who would get caught up in an ever increasing traffic jam. East Lncas losing 1 lane in each direction, most roads in Salford heading towards manchester are no only 1 lane thansk to bus lanes. East Lancs is now only 40mph instead of 50mph. Traffic lights designed not to work in sequence Not enough buses to carry the extra capacity Not enough car park spaces for the extra traffic Yes it is a catch22 situation and it is a situation that has been created by various councils in Greater Manchester and more importantly by TfGM![/p][/quote]I concur... And rightly pointed out by yourself how we are pretty much screwed by corporations with their government fiends. Still a token protest would still be better than listening to drivel in parliament where corporate tones and generic BS statements will be made. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 2

1:00pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Why is my 'R' grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Sorry........
Why is my 'R' grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Sorry........ Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -3

2:13pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Reality50 says...

This problem wouldn't occur had we not let Bolton become a dormitory-travel to work-town for Manchester. Bolton used to provide enough jobs so very few people worked in Manchester up to 20 years ago. The government and rail companies see Bolton as a Manchester suburb station and a backwater so nothing will be done.
This problem wouldn't occur had we not let Bolton become a dormitory-travel to work-town for Manchester. Bolton used to provide enough jobs so very few people worked in Manchester up to 20 years ago. The government and rail companies see Bolton as a Manchester suburb station and a backwater so nothing will be done. Reality50
  • Score: 5

2:22pm Mon 3 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

Trains busy at rush hour - WOW JUST WOW.
Trains busy at rush hour - WOW JUST WOW. mdavies11
  • Score: -13

2:36pm Mon 3 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

Reality50 wrote:
This problem wouldn't occur had we not let Bolton become a dormitory-travel to work-town for Manchester. Bolton used to provide enough jobs so very few people worked in Manchester up to 20 years ago. The government and rail companies see Bolton as a Manchester suburb station and a backwater so nothing will be done.
Yes and no.... it is just a natural progression of so-called improvements. Just like people moved from teh country to the new towns and cities during teh industrial revolution to be were the jobs are and now its moved from jobs being centrally located in one major town or city and then copmmuting from teh surrounding towns.

Not just happening in the UK but all over the world.

Basically for many companies its a cost cutting exercise in rents and repairs etc etc etc etc
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: This problem wouldn't occur had we not let Bolton become a dormitory-travel to work-town for Manchester. Bolton used to provide enough jobs so very few people worked in Manchester up to 20 years ago. The government and rail companies see Bolton as a Manchester suburb station and a backwater so nothing will be done.[/p][/quote]Yes and no.... it is just a natural progression of so-called improvements. Just like people moved from teh country to the new towns and cities during teh industrial revolution to be were the jobs are and now its moved from jobs being centrally located in one major town or city and then copmmuting from teh surrounding towns. Not just happening in the UK but all over the world. Basically for many companies its a cost cutting exercise in rents and repairs etc etc etc etc The Righteous One
  • Score: -31

2:56pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Puffin-Billy says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Simply boycotting the rail services would make more of a point than a petition.

I commend the actions, but we do not live in a Democracy in which the voices of people are carried unless the words are of benefit to government and their corporate owners.

The real way to use Democracy within a capitalist version of Democracy is to vote with you money. If people did not purchase a ticket, instead opting to travel by coach (group or club arranged) or via car sharing, just for a short time at least, then I think that would be more effective.

But I know convenience is an absolute pig and our bosses do not help us with... "you are late... fired!"

We are kind of stuck with our hands tied, and these corporations along with government know this.
The Bolton News would have us believe we are living in a democracy - so it must be true.

A relation of mine was forced to buy a car , or risk losing his job through bad timekeeping.

He couldn't rely on the trains.

The department for Transport's own propaganda says that a properly

functioning rail system is necessary for the national economy.

They clearly do not believe their own propaganda.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: Simply boycotting the rail services would make more of a point than a petition. I commend the actions, but we do not live in a Democracy in which the voices of people are carried unless the words are of benefit to government and their corporate owners. The real way to use Democracy within a capitalist version of Democracy is to vote with you money. If people did not purchase a ticket, instead opting to travel by coach (group or club arranged) or via car sharing, just for a short time at least, then I think that would be more effective. But I know convenience is an absolute pig and our bosses do not help us with... "you are late... fired!" We are kind of stuck with our hands tied, and these corporations along with government know this.[/p][/quote]The Bolton News would have us believe we are living in a democracy - so it must be true. A relation of mine was forced to buy a car , or risk losing his job through bad timekeeping. He couldn't rely on the trains. The department for Transport's own propaganda says that a properly functioning rail system is necessary for the national economy. They clearly do not believe their own propaganda. Puffin-Billy
  • Score: 6

4:53pm Mon 3 Mar 14

breightmet kid says...

Travelling to Manchester by train any working day morning before 10am is no different now than it was in the 1950's or 1960's except in those days of steam trains several 6 or 8 carriage sets were 'shedded' at Bolton so that trains 'began' their journey's from our town. Everyone got a seat as the coaching stock was non-corridor. Workmen's service, yes, but comfort and safety guaranteed, each and every journey.

You cannot expect to get the same number of people onto modern 2 or 3 coach trains that arrive from other destinations.

Has anyone compared the rolling stock used on London and South East railway lines, modern, clean, 8 or 10 coaches per train, to our run down dowdy railway which looks like something from the Rocket era.

Not only are we expect to travel like sardines but we are also charged top notch fares for the privilege.

I see our three MP's are now on the case. Good photo opportunities and press coverage but how many times in a week in the past twelve months have these three people travelled in our over crowded and dangerous trains?

Things cannot get worse, the trains are over packed with people and one minor accident will cause mayhem. Perhaps Health and Safety should have a look at things.
Travelling to Manchester by train any working day morning before 10am is no different now than it was in the 1950's or 1960's except in those days of steam trains several 6 or 8 carriage sets were 'shedded' at Bolton so that trains 'began' their journey's from our town. Everyone got a seat as the coaching stock was non-corridor. Workmen's service, yes, but comfort and safety guaranteed, each and every journey. You cannot expect to get the same number of people onto modern 2 or 3 coach trains that arrive from other destinations. Has anyone compared the rolling stock used on London and South East railway lines, modern, clean, 8 or 10 coaches per train, to our run down dowdy railway which looks like something from the Rocket era. Not only are we expect to travel like sardines but we are also charged top notch fares for the privilege. I see our three MP's are now on the case. Good photo opportunities and press coverage but how many times in a week in the past twelve months have these three people travelled in our over crowded and dangerous trains? Things cannot get worse, the trains are over packed with people and one minor accident will cause mayhem. Perhaps Health and Safety should have a look at things. breightmet kid
  • Score: 6

4:57pm Mon 3 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

Perhaps the BN could also do a campaign about the bad service & danger to life with battered old cars people who cant speak english & dont know where they are going on our Taxi services.
Perhaps the BN could also do a campaign about the bad service & danger to life with battered old cars people who cant speak english & dont know where they are going on our Taxi services. thomas222
  • Score: 42

6:33pm Mon 3 Mar 14

JustBecause says...

Wow glad I am not using the shambles of a train service, run by idiots and jobs worth.
Wow glad I am not using the shambles of a train service, run by idiots and jobs worth. JustBecause
  • Score: 2

6:42pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Lynn57 says...

Cameron was on Bolton station several weeks ago now. Northern Rail added more carriages so that they would not appear to be too incompetent. Enough to make my blood boil that company. He was never going to see the true picture. Not that he would give a toss anyway.
Cameron was on Bolton station several weeks ago now. Northern Rail added more carriages so that they would not appear to be too incompetent. Enough to make my blood boil that company. He was never going to see the true picture. Not that he would give a toss anyway. Lynn57
  • Score: 10

6:47pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

I've just seen tonight's BBC NW news. Guess what? 9 units (ie. trains) are shortly to be transferred from the Transpennine fleet to ease overcrowding on the Chiltern Line, with no firm answer as to when they will be replaced, if ever. And this on already hopelessly overcrowded routes.. Yet another example of the north being stuffed. I tell you, the only I can see to make the rail companies, and the government, take any real notice is by mass action - let's get down on the tracks and stop the trains. Hit 'em all where it hurts - in the pocket, ort the bank balance!
I've just seen tonight's BBC NW news. Guess what? 9 units (ie. trains) are shortly to be transferred from the Transpennine fleet to ease overcrowding on the Chiltern Line, with no firm answer as to when they will be replaced, if ever. And this on already hopelessly overcrowded routes.. Yet another example of the north being stuffed. I tell you, the only I can see to make the rail companies, and the government, take any real notice is by mass action - let's get down on the tracks and stop the trains. Hit 'em all where it hurts - in the pocket, ort the bank balance! Darren1951
  • Score: 5

6:49pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

breightmet kid wrote:
Travelling to Manchester by train any working day morning before 10am is no different now than it was in the 1950's or 1960's except in those days of steam trains several 6 or 8 carriage sets were 'shedded' at Bolton so that trains 'began' their journey's from our town. Everyone got a seat as the coaching stock was non-corridor. Workmen's service, yes, but comfort and safety guaranteed, each and every journey.

You cannot expect to get the same number of people onto modern 2 or 3 coach trains that arrive from other destinations.

Has anyone compared the rolling stock used on London and South East railway lines, modern, clean, 8 or 10 coaches per train, to our run down dowdy railway which looks like something from the Rocket era.

Not only are we expect to travel like sardines but we are also charged top notch fares for the privilege.

I see our three MP's are now on the case. Good photo opportunities and press coverage but how many times in a week in the past twelve months have these three people travelled in our over crowded and dangerous trains?

Things cannot get worse, the trains are over packed with people and one minor accident will cause mayhem. Perhaps Health and Safety should have a look at things.
They are not modern trains. The average age of the trains we have through Bolton, excluding First TPE services, are on average 30 years old. The average age of the new trains that will be coming into the area will also be between 25 and 30 years old. The rolling stock we will be getting will be from Thameslink!!!!!

Also just announced today is that First TPE are LOSING trains to Chiltern Railways - thus Boris Johnson's London will be getting our "newer" trains and we will be left with even much older rolling stock and Yes things aare getting worse. Basically we are losing over 1 million seats a year to a train operator in the South East!!!!

Health and Safety have already spoken and said that there is NO restriction on numbers for the carriages, in fact they train companies can squash as many people on board an they insist it will not upset the safety of the trains. Why is it that the put a number of Livestock that can be in a carriage but Human life doesn't mean a thing!!!!!

I now expect to get at least -85 thumbs down for this comment, but as I am actually agreeing with other posters on this thread (which many have agreed with my previous posts) just goes to show the mentality of a couple of people who are using a macro prgram to destroy the rights to speech on this website!
[quote][p][bold]breightmet kid[/bold] wrote: Travelling to Manchester by train any working day morning before 10am is no different now than it was in the 1950's or 1960's except in those days of steam trains several 6 or 8 carriage sets were 'shedded' at Bolton so that trains 'began' their journey's from our town. Everyone got a seat as the coaching stock was non-corridor. Workmen's service, yes, but comfort and safety guaranteed, each and every journey. You cannot expect to get the same number of people onto modern 2 or 3 coach trains that arrive from other destinations. Has anyone compared the rolling stock used on London and South East railway lines, modern, clean, 8 or 10 coaches per train, to our run down dowdy railway which looks like something from the Rocket era. Not only are we expect to travel like sardines but we are also charged top notch fares for the privilege. I see our three MP's are now on the case. Good photo opportunities and press coverage but how many times in a week in the past twelve months have these three people travelled in our over crowded and dangerous trains? Things cannot get worse, the trains are over packed with people and one minor accident will cause mayhem. Perhaps Health and Safety should have a look at things.[/p][/quote]They are not modern trains. The average age of the trains we have through Bolton, excluding First TPE services, are on average 30 years old. The average age of the new trains that will be coming into the area will also be between 25 and 30 years old. The rolling stock we will be getting will be from Thameslink!!!!! Also just announced today is that First TPE are LOSING trains to Chiltern Railways - thus Boris Johnson's London will be getting our "newer" trains and we will be left with even much older rolling stock and Yes things aare getting worse. Basically we are losing over 1 million seats a year to a train operator in the South East!!!! Health and Safety have already spoken and said that there is NO restriction on numbers for the carriages, in fact they train companies can squash as many people on board an they insist it will not upset the safety of the trains. Why is it that the put a number of Livestock that can be in a carriage but Human life doesn't mean a thing!!!!! I now expect to get at least -85 thumbs down for this comment, but as I am actually agreeing with other posters on this thread (which many have agreed with my previous posts) just goes to show the mentality of a couple of people who are using a macro prgram to destroy the rights to speech on this website! BWFC71
  • Score: -7

7:01pm Mon 3 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
breightmet kid wrote: Travelling to Manchester by train any working day morning before 10am is no different now than it was in the 1950's or 1960's except in those days of steam trains several 6 or 8 carriage sets were 'shedded' at Bolton so that trains 'began' their journey's from our town. Everyone got a seat as the coaching stock was non-corridor. Workmen's service, yes, but comfort and safety guaranteed, each and every journey. You cannot expect to get the same number of people onto modern 2 or 3 coach trains that arrive from other destinations. Has anyone compared the rolling stock used on London and South East railway lines, modern, clean, 8 or 10 coaches per train, to our run down dowdy railway which looks like something from the Rocket era. Not only are we expect to travel like sardines but we are also charged top notch fares for the privilege. I see our three MP's are now on the case. Good photo opportunities and press coverage but how many times in a week in the past twelve months have these three people travelled in our over crowded and dangerous trains? Things cannot get worse, the trains are over packed with people and one minor accident will cause mayhem. Perhaps Health and Safety should have a look at things.
They are not modern trains. The average age of the trains we have through Bolton, excluding First TPE services, are on average 30 years old. The average age of the new trains that will be coming into the area will also be between 25 and 30 years old. The rolling stock we will be getting will be from Thameslink!!!!! Also just announced today is that First TPE are LOSING trains to Chiltern Railways - thus Boris Johnson's London will be getting our "newer" trains and we will be left with even much older rolling stock and Yes things aare getting worse. Basically we are losing over 1 million seats a year to a train operator in the South East!!!! Health and Safety have already spoken and said that there is NO restriction on numbers for the carriages, in fact they train companies can squash as many people on board an they insist it will not upset the safety of the trains. Why is it that the put a number of Livestock that can be in a carriage but Human life doesn't mean a thing!!!!! I now expect to get at least -85 thumbs down for this comment, but as I am actually agreeing with other posters on this thread (which many have agreed with my previous posts) just goes to show the mentality of a couple of people who are using a macro prgram to destroy the rights to speech on this website!
Its a Macro job and the bn is looking into it again.... yr and yr mate are losers.... thought i was the one with me ukip mates doing it..... lol
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]breightmet kid[/bold] wrote: Travelling to Manchester by train any working day morning before 10am is no different now than it was in the 1950's or 1960's except in those days of steam trains several 6 or 8 carriage sets were 'shedded' at Bolton so that trains 'began' their journey's from our town. Everyone got a seat as the coaching stock was non-corridor. Workmen's service, yes, but comfort and safety guaranteed, each and every journey. You cannot expect to get the same number of people onto modern 2 or 3 coach trains that arrive from other destinations. Has anyone compared the rolling stock used on London and South East railway lines, modern, clean, 8 or 10 coaches per train, to our run down dowdy railway which looks like something from the Rocket era. Not only are we expect to travel like sardines but we are also charged top notch fares for the privilege. I see our three MP's are now on the case. Good photo opportunities and press coverage but how many times in a week in the past twelve months have these three people travelled in our over crowded and dangerous trains? Things cannot get worse, the trains are over packed with people and one minor accident will cause mayhem. Perhaps Health and Safety should have a look at things.[/p][/quote]They are not modern trains. The average age of the trains we have through Bolton, excluding First TPE services, are on average 30 years old. The average age of the new trains that will be coming into the area will also be between 25 and 30 years old. The rolling stock we will be getting will be from Thameslink!!!!! Also just announced today is that First TPE are LOSING trains to Chiltern Railways - thus Boris Johnson's London will be getting our "newer" trains and we will be left with even much older rolling stock and Yes things aare getting worse. Basically we are losing over 1 million seats a year to a train operator in the South East!!!! Health and Safety have already spoken and said that there is NO restriction on numbers for the carriages, in fact they train companies can squash as many people on board an they insist it will not upset the safety of the trains. Why is it that the put a number of Livestock that can be in a carriage but Human life doesn't mean a thing!!!!! I now expect to get at least -85 thumbs down for this comment, but as I am actually agreeing with other posters on this thread (which many have agreed with my previous posts) just goes to show the mentality of a couple of people who are using a macro prgram to destroy the rights to speech on this website![/p][/quote]Its a Macro job and the bn is looking into it again.... yr and yr mate are losers.... thought i was the one with me ukip mates doing it..... lol thomas222
  • Score: 0

7:13pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 & Thomas222 - for gawd's sake you two, this is worse than PMQs on Wednesday lunchtimes! Please give a little thought to other "users", moderate your language, and, most of all, keep on topic!
BWFC71 & Thomas222 - for gawd's sake you two, this is worse than PMQs on Wednesday lunchtimes! Please give a little thought to other "users", moderate your language, and, most of all, keep on topic! Darren1951
  • Score: 11

7:26pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 & Thomas222 - for gawd's sake you two, this is worse than PMQs on Wednesday lunchtimes! Please give a little thought to other "users", moderate your language, and, most of all, keep on topic!
I do apologise, unlike Thomas222, but I am actually fed up of him and so-called other Boltonians running amok on this website and turning what was once a decent website where people could comment into a no-go area and a forum for their small mindedness and for them to abuse people into either their way of thinking or forcing people off the website - which they have tried to do to me for the last 4 months!!!

Therefore I am now taking a stand, having to lower my standards, unfortunately, to get rid of these imbeciles and get this website back to how it was - a decent website where people could comment without the fear of abuse or threatening behaviour by the thick minority!

Therefore, once again, I do apologise! (and I bet Thomas222 doesn't because he doesn't give a ****!)
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: BWFC71 & Thomas222 - for gawd's sake you two, this is worse than PMQs on Wednesday lunchtimes! Please give a little thought to other "users", moderate your language, and, most of all, keep on topic![/p][/quote]I do apologise, unlike Thomas222, but I am actually fed up of him and so-called other Boltonians running amok on this website and turning what was once a decent website where people could comment into a no-go area and a forum for their small mindedness and for them to abuse people into either their way of thinking or forcing people off the website - which they have tried to do to me for the last 4 months!!! Therefore I am now taking a stand, having to lower my standards, unfortunately, to get rid of these imbeciles and get this website back to how it was - a decent website where people could comment without the fear of abuse or threatening behaviour by the thick minority! Therefore, once again, I do apologise! (and I bet Thomas222 doesn't because he doesn't give a ****!) BWFC71
  • Score: -48

7:40pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 - apology NOT accepted. From my angle, you two are as bad as each other. Unless, of course, it's some sort of egocentric trick to make the rest of us think it's two different people when in fact, it's only one. Let me remind you (both) that this thread is about the continual denuding of rail capacity in the north west, and not a free-for-all for the mentally challenged to vent their spleen in whatever way they see fit.
BWFC71 - apology NOT accepted. From my angle, you two are as bad as each other. Unless, of course, it's some sort of egocentric trick to make the rest of us think it's two different people when in fact, it's only one. Let me remind you (both) that this thread is about the continual denuding of rail capacity in the north west, and not a free-for-all for the mentally challenged to vent their spleen in whatever way they see fit. Darren1951
  • Score: 1

7:44pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 - apology NOT accepted. From my angle, you two are as bad as each other. Unless, of course, it's some sort of egocentric trick to make the rest of us think it's two different people when in fact, it's only one. Let me remind you (both) that this thread is about the continual denuding of rail capacity in the north west, and not a free-for-all for the mentally challenged to vent their spleen in whatever way they see fit.
To which I have commented on further up (under my work PC ID of The Righteous One) plus I have written many letters and comments in the paper with the degrading of the railways through Bolton - I have even posted a letter(email) I received from the DfT advising that it is not their problem (and yet today they take another 9 units - i.e. a million seats a year - away from the North and give to services that serve London)

Thomas222, on the other hand, yet again undermines this website and , as usual, has a complete disregard for the rules and turns yet another thread into his racial hatred fuelled abuse.
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: BWFC71 - apology NOT accepted. From my angle, you two are as bad as each other. Unless, of course, it's some sort of egocentric trick to make the rest of us think it's two different people when in fact, it's only one. Let me remind you (both) that this thread is about the continual denuding of rail capacity in the north west, and not a free-for-all for the mentally challenged to vent their spleen in whatever way they see fit.[/p][/quote]To which I have commented on further up (under my work PC ID of The Righteous One) plus I have written many letters and comments in the paper with the degrading of the railways through Bolton - I have even posted a letter(email) I received from the DfT advising that it is not their problem (and yet today they take another 9 units - i.e. a million seats a year - away from the North and give to services that serve London) Thomas222, on the other hand, yet again undermines this website and , as usual, has a complete disregard for the rules and turns yet another thread into his racial hatred fuelled abuse. BWFC71
  • Score: -30

7:57pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Department for Transport
Great Minster House
33 Horseferry Road
London
SW1P 4DR
Tel: 0300 330 3000
Web Site: www.gov.uk/dft


Our Ref: 96879

Your Ref:


19 February 2014



Dear Mr Postlethwaite,


Thank you for your email of 27 January to Stephen Hammond MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Transport, regarding Bolton train services; I have been asked to respond.


When the Northern franchise was let in 2004 there was not expected to be any growth in passenger demand. Since the start of the franchise Northern has seen passenger numbers increase by around 40% across the franchise. Although the popularity of the railway is to be welcomed, it has led to some trains being crowded, particularly at peak times. Additional carriages were provided to Northern in 2008 and 2011 because of this growth.


Within their franchise agreement, Northern is required to use all reasonable endeavours to provide a minimum number of places on around 250 peak services each week day. The delivery of this capacity is monitored by Northern and discussed regularly with the DfT and Transport for Greater Manchester as well as other stakeholders.


The train service between Manchester and Bolton is sponsored and specified by Transport for Greater Manchester. You may wish to make your concerns known to them if you have not done so already.


It is important to remember that safety is the first priority of rail operations and a recent European Union report found that the UK has the safest rail network of all EU members – see http://ec.europa.eu/
commission_2010-2014
/kallas/headlines/ne
ws/2013/01/doc/swd(2
013)-10-part3.pdf for details.


With regard to the safety implications of overcrowding, I should explain that the body that monitors and enforces compliance with health and safety legislation on Britain’s rail network is the Office of Rail Regulation (‘ORR’).


It is for each train operating company to use its train fleet to best match the train capacity to the passenger demand expected on individual services. Operators are required to use all reasonable endeavours to minimise overcrowding. ORR has advised me that there is no legal limit on the number of passengers that can travel on a train. This is because trains differ from other modes of transport, such as buses and aeroplanes, where passenger numbers can affect stability. Trains are designed to operate safely and effectively even when they are loaded to maximum capacity.


The structural design of rail vehicles takes account of the maximum load including crowded conditions. In addition, the interior design contain features that minimise passenger injury in the event of an accident


It is true that in the event of a serious accident – a rare event in itself – on a heavily loaded train, it is an inescapable fact that the more passengers there are on the train, the greater the number of passengers at risk. However, research into a number of train accidents has shown that crowding itself did not contribute to the severity of the incident or to any injuries incurred.


You may wish to look at the policy statement issued by ORR on its website at http://www.rail-reg.
gov.uk/upload/pdf/tr
ain_crowding_positio
n_statement.pdf


As you may be aware, the Department for Transport has also announced additional investment in the railways of Northern England over the next few years. This includes electrification between Liverpool and Manchester, in Lancashire and in due course, between Manchester and York via Huddersfield. The works to deliver electrification between Manchester, Newton-le-Willows and Liverpool are under way. As well as offering longer trains and faster journeys on these routes, electrification means that diesel trains currently used between Liverpool, Manchester and Blackpool will become available to provide additional capacity for passengers across the railways of Northern England.


The second section of the Liverpool to Manchester line – between Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows – will be available for use by electric trains from December 2014. Once electric trains are able to operate on the Liverpool to Manchester line, it will be possible for the diesel trains used on local services along the route to transfer to provide additional capacity for passengers on other routes. It will be for the rail industry to develop plans for the redeployment of these diesel trains after 2014.


If Northern were to provide additional diesel trains for services between Bolton and Manchester prior to December 2014, they would have to come from within the Northern fleet or from a Rolling Stock Company. The Northern Franchise Agreement requires the operator to use its entire fleet of trains (allowing for normal maintenance) at peak times. It is for Northern to determine, based on the passenger demand on individual services, whether any changes can be made to reallocate carriages between the routes that they operate.


As I said, Transport for Greater Manchester sponsor and specify local services within Greater Manchester. If diesel rolling stock can be made available prior to December 2014, it would be for them to work with Northern on how best carriages might be redeployed from other local train services. It would be for Transport for Greater Manchester and the operators to develop the business case and any necessary funding for the provision of additional carriages for train services that call at Bolton.


Kind regards


Alistair Hobbs
Correspondence Manager
Rail Commercial
Department for Transport Great Minster House 33 Horseferry Road London SW1P 4DR Tel: 0300 330 3000 Web Site: www.gov.uk/dft Our Ref: 96879 Your Ref: 19 February 2014 Dear Mr Postlethwaite, Thank you for your email of 27 January to Stephen Hammond MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Transport, regarding Bolton train services; I have been asked to respond. When the Northern franchise was let in 2004 there was not expected to be any growth in passenger demand. Since the start of the franchise Northern has seen passenger numbers increase by around 40% across the franchise. Although the popularity of the railway is to be welcomed, it has led to some trains being crowded, particularly at peak times. Additional carriages were provided to Northern in 2008 and 2011 because of this growth. Within their franchise agreement, Northern is required to use all reasonable endeavours to provide a minimum number of places on around 250 peak services each week day. The delivery of this capacity is monitored by Northern and discussed regularly with the DfT and Transport for Greater Manchester as well as other stakeholders. The train service between Manchester and Bolton is sponsored and specified by Transport for Greater Manchester. You may wish to make your concerns known to them if you have not done so already. It is important to remember that safety is the first priority of rail operations and a recent European Union report found that the UK has the safest rail network of all EU members – see http://ec.europa.eu/ commission_2010-2014 /kallas/headlines/ne ws/2013/01/doc/swd(2 013)-10-part3.pdf for details. With regard to the safety implications of overcrowding, I should explain that the body that monitors and enforces compliance with health and safety legislation on Britain’s rail network is the Office of Rail Regulation (‘ORR’). It is for each train operating company to use its train fleet to best match the train capacity to the passenger demand expected on individual services. Operators are required to use all reasonable endeavours to minimise overcrowding. ORR has advised me that there is no legal limit on the number of passengers that can travel on a train. This is because trains differ from other modes of transport, such as buses and aeroplanes, where passenger numbers can affect stability. Trains are designed to operate safely and effectively even when they are loaded to maximum capacity. The structural design of rail vehicles takes account of the maximum load including crowded conditions. In addition, the interior design contain features that minimise passenger injury in the event of an accident It is true that in the event of a serious accident – a rare event in itself – on a heavily loaded train, it is an inescapable fact that the more passengers there are on the train, the greater the number of passengers at risk. However, research into a number of train accidents has shown that crowding itself did not contribute to the severity of the incident or to any injuries incurred. You may wish to look at the policy statement issued by ORR on its website at http://www.rail-reg. gov.uk/upload/pdf/tr ain_crowding_positio n_statement.pdf As you may be aware, the Department for Transport has also announced additional investment in the railways of Northern England over the next few years. This includes electrification between Liverpool and Manchester, in Lancashire and in due course, between Manchester and York via Huddersfield. The works to deliver electrification between Manchester, Newton-le-Willows and Liverpool are under way. As well as offering longer trains and faster journeys on these routes, electrification means that diesel trains currently used between Liverpool, Manchester and Blackpool will become available to provide additional capacity for passengers across the railways of Northern England. The second section of the Liverpool to Manchester line – between Liverpool and Newton-le-Willows – will be available for use by electric trains from December 2014. Once electric trains are able to operate on the Liverpool to Manchester line, it will be possible for the diesel trains used on local services along the route to transfer to provide additional capacity for passengers on other routes. It will be for the rail industry to develop plans for the redeployment of these diesel trains after 2014. If Northern were to provide additional diesel trains for services between Bolton and Manchester prior to December 2014, they would have to come from within the Northern fleet or from a Rolling Stock Company. The Northern Franchise Agreement requires the operator to use its entire fleet of trains (allowing for normal maintenance) at peak times. It is for Northern to determine, based on the passenger demand on individual services, whether any changes can be made to reallocate carriages between the routes that they operate. As I said, Transport for Greater Manchester sponsor and specify local services within Greater Manchester. If diesel rolling stock can be made available prior to December 2014, it would be for them to work with Northern on how best carriages might be redeployed from other local train services. It would be for Transport for Greater Manchester and the operators to develop the business case and any necessary funding for the provision of additional carriages for train services that call at Bolton. Kind regards Alistair Hobbs Correspondence Manager Rail Commercial BWFC71
  • Score: -2

8:23pm Mon 3 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

The only racist comment on the thread is

"typical English lout"
The only racist comment on the thread is "typical English lout" mdavies11
  • Score: 42

8:27pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

mdavies11 wrote:
The only racist comment on the thread is

"typical English lout"
IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE HEN SO BE IT - HAVE YOU READ ALL OF THOMAS22 POSTS ON THIS WEBSITE.

COMPLAINT RACIAL TAUNTS AND OVERTONES AND ACTUALY RACIAL ABUSE - JUST LIKE IN THIS THREAD TALKING ABOUT NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS!!!!!

HE FORGETS THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ENGLISH IN THIS COUNTRY - HE FORGOT ABOUT WELSH, GAELIC AND CORNISH - THEREFORE WHAT THOMAS222 IS ACTUALLY A RRACIST COMMENT!!!!
[quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: The only racist comment on the thread is "typical English lout"[/p][/quote]IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE HEN SO BE IT - HAVE YOU READ ALL OF THOMAS22 POSTS ON THIS WEBSITE. COMPLAINT RACIAL TAUNTS AND OVERTONES AND ACTUALY RACIAL ABUSE - JUST LIKE IN THIS THREAD TALKING ABOUT NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS!!!!! HE FORGETS THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ENGLISH IN THIS COUNTRY - HE FORGOT ABOUT WELSH, GAELIC AND CORNISH - THEREFORE WHAT THOMAS222 IS ACTUALLY A RRACIST COMMENT!!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -57

8:34pm Mon 3 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

"non-english speakers" are not a race

i prefer taxi drivers who speak english - if you've lived abroad you'll know that it is tiresome to associate with people who don't speak your language

there are people of all races in the uk whose english is poor
there are people of all races in the uk whose english is excellent

you may want to reexamine your subconscious assumptions of white privilege
"non-english speakers" are not a race i prefer taxi drivers who speak english - if you've lived abroad you'll know that it is tiresome to associate with people who don't speak your language there are people of all races in the uk whose english is poor there are people of all races in the uk whose english is excellent you may want to reexamine your subconscious assumptions of white privilege mdavies11
  • Score: 40

8:41pm Mon 3 Mar 14

George X says...

It's anti English idiots like yourself that are ruining the country with your pro immigration and multicultural claptrap.
Multiculturism is like communism in the regard that it looks good on paper but in practice just doesn't work because of the one common denominator that wasn't emphasised enough in these two theologies and that ladies and gentlemen is human beings :- the worst animal on the planet.
People should live within their own cultures and if people are stupid enought to follow a religion then they should live within the boundaries of that too...
It's anti English idiots like yourself that are ruining the country with your pro immigration and multicultural claptrap. Multiculturism is like communism in the regard that it looks good on paper but in practice just doesn't work because of the one common denominator that wasn't emphasised enough in these two theologies and that ladies and gentlemen is human beings :- the worst animal on the planet. People should live within their own cultures and if people are stupid enought to follow a religion then they should live within the boundaries of that too... George X
  • Score: 9

8:58pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
It's anti English idiots like yourself that are ruining the country with your pro immigration and multicultural claptrap.
Multiculturism is like communism in the regard that it looks good on paper but in practice just doesn't work because of the one common denominator that wasn't emphasised enough in these two theologies and that ladies and gentlemen is human beings :- the worst animal on the planet.
People should live within their own cultures and if people are stupid enought to follow a religion then they should live within the boundaries of that too...
tell that to all your Irish friends who moved here for the building of canals and railways!
tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here to help in the war effort and after the war when there was a shortage of jobs!
tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" who came over during the Cold War to escape the communist regimes!
tell that to all the people who came over when they were still part of the British Empire!
tell that to the Romas who came from all over the Romaan Empire and settled in the UK!
tell that to the franco's who came over and relived us from the Roman's!
tell that to the scandavians who came over and helped shape the UK we have today, including in the naming of our glorious town in their own language and evolved to what we have today!
tell that to the Dutch and Belgians who came over during the industrial revolution and helped to mae the North West and especially the area surrounding Manchester rich and famous for its cotton industry!

Now you tell me that it is all claptrap and that multiculturism doesn't work.

If it wasn't for all the above you wouldn't be who you are now, and in fact It would probably be a high percentage that you wouldn't have been born!!!!

You don't like Eastern European coming here, of which many are actually Roman Catholic - such as all the Pols and then you moan about the Catholic and CofE Churches congregations lowering - you ought to be happy they are here in helping to raise the number of the congregations - at least they follow their religion unlike many British do nowadays! How many more churches would have closed if they hadn't come over?

So before you write a load of garbage - look what it has done and be proud of the fact rather than being a pitiful spiteful gutless individual!!!

Where were you this morning? I know you read the comment about meeting up! So again I send out this message, I will be waiting for the 0759 train tomorrow morning under the white number 2, on a black square, sign (outside the staffroom) on platform 1 - do you have the guts to come and meet me and tell me to my face of what you think of me - in front of witnesses (so there can be no fisticuffs)
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: It's anti English idiots like yourself that are ruining the country with your pro immigration and multicultural claptrap. Multiculturism is like communism in the regard that it looks good on paper but in practice just doesn't work because of the one common denominator that wasn't emphasised enough in these two theologies and that ladies and gentlemen is human beings :- the worst animal on the planet. People should live within their own cultures and if people are stupid enought to follow a religion then they should live within the boundaries of that too...[/p][/quote]tell that to all your Irish friends who moved here for the building of canals and railways! tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here to help in the war effort and after the war when there was a shortage of jobs! tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" who came over during the Cold War to escape the communist regimes! tell that to all the people who came over when they were still part of the British Empire! tell that to the Romas who came from all over the Romaan Empire and settled in the UK! tell that to the franco's who came over and relived us from the Roman's! tell that to the scandavians who came over and helped shape the UK we have today, including in the naming of our glorious town in their own language and evolved to what we have today! tell that to the Dutch and Belgians who came over during the industrial revolution and helped to mae the North West and especially the area surrounding Manchester rich and famous for its cotton industry! Now you tell me that it is all claptrap and that multiculturism doesn't work. If it wasn't for all the above you wouldn't be who you are now, and in fact It would probably be a high percentage that you wouldn't have been born!!!! You don't like Eastern European coming here, of which many are actually Roman Catholic - such as all the Pols and then you moan about the Catholic and CofE Churches congregations lowering - you ought to be happy they are here in helping to raise the number of the congregations - at least they follow their religion unlike many British do nowadays! How many more churches would have closed if they hadn't come over? So before you write a load of garbage - look what it has done and be proud of the fact rather than being a pitiful spiteful gutless individual!!! Where were you this morning? I know you read the comment about meeting up! So again I send out this message, I will be waiting for the 0759 train tomorrow morning under the white number 2, on a black square, sign (outside the staffroom) on platform 1 - do you have the guts to come and meet me and tell me to my face of what you think of me - in front of witnesses (so there can be no fisticuffs) BWFC71
  • Score: -70

9:02pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Hands up all those who agree that BWFC714 and Thomas222 are a couple of egotistical, childish morons who have now totally hijacked this thread with their lunatic ravings.
Hands up all those who agree that BWFC714 and Thomas222 are a couple of egotistical, childish morons who have now totally hijacked this thread with their lunatic ravings. Darren1951
  • Score: -36

9:09pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

mdavies11 wrote:
"non-english speakers" are not a race

i prefer taxi drivers who speak english - if you've lived abroad you'll know that it is tiresome to associate with people who don't speak your language

there are people of all races in the uk whose english is poor
there are people of all races in the uk whose english is excellent

you may want to reexamine your subconscious assumptions of white privilege
No but it is a direct dig to the many of people whose command of the English is poor and yet they do a more than decent enough job, and that sense it is racist!

In a taxi I prefer not to talk to the driver as it distracts the driver and any driver should have 100% concentration on their driving!!!

I know many people of many cultures and when I did live overseas I never found it tiresome as there is always something to learn whether its one-off phrases or the food or many facets off each culture and yes I did met up with other English as least once a week for the football - the common culture for many cultures, by the way!!!!!

Even now via Facebook, Skype and other forms of social media I keep in touch with these friends and even no still learning.

I hope you know the cultural difference between us, Canadians, US Citizens, New Zealanders and Australians?
[quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: "non-english speakers" are not a race i prefer taxi drivers who speak english - if you've lived abroad you'll know that it is tiresome to associate with people who don't speak your language there are people of all races in the uk whose english is poor there are people of all races in the uk whose english is excellent you may want to reexamine your subconscious assumptions of white privilege[/p][/quote]No but it is a direct dig to the many of people whose command of the English is poor and yet they do a more than decent enough job, and that sense it is racist! In a taxi I prefer not to talk to the driver as it distracts the driver and any driver should have 100% concentration on their driving!!! I know many people of many cultures and when I did live overseas I never found it tiresome as there is always something to learn whether its one-off phrases or the food or many facets off each culture and yes I did met up with other English as least once a week for the football - the common culture for many cultures, by the way!!!!! Even now via Facebook, Skype and other forms of social media I keep in touch with these friends and even no still learning. I hope you know the cultural difference between us, Canadians, US Citizens, New Zealanders and Australians? BWFC71
  • Score: -52

9:16pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
Hands up all those who agree that BWFC714 and Thomas222 are a couple of egotistical, childish morons who have now totally hijacked this thread with their lunatic ravings.
Apologies Darren but the thumbs are from the same person who is murdering this website. No one has been able to do a serious decent debate over the last 6 months because of Thomas and 4 other people who are doing everything to destroy the good name of the paper!!!! And it seems I am the only person that will defend this paper!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Hands up all those who agree that BWFC714 and Thomas222 are a couple of egotistical, childish morons who have now totally hijacked this thread with their lunatic ravings.[/p][/quote]Apologies Darren but the thumbs are from the same person who is murdering this website. No one has been able to do a serious decent debate over the last 6 months because of Thomas and 4 other people who are doing everything to destroy the good name of the paper!!!! And it seems I am the only person that will defend this paper! BWFC71
  • Score: -23

9:18pm Mon 3 Mar 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
It's anti English idiots like yourself that are ruining the country with your pro immigration and multicultural claptrap.
Multiculturism is like communism in the regard that it looks good on paper but in practice just doesn't work because of the one common denominator that wasn't emphasised enough in these two theologies and that ladies and gentlemen is human beings :- the worst animal on the planet.
People should live within their own cultures and if people are stupid enought to follow a religion then they should live within the boundaries of that too...
tell that to all your Irish friends who moved here for the building of canals and railways!
tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here to help in the war effort and after the war when there was a shortage of jobs!
tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" who came over during the Cold War to escape the communist regimes!
tell that to all the people who came over when they were still part of the British Empire!
tell that to the Romas who came from all over the Romaan Empire and settled in the UK!
tell that to the franco's who came over and relived us from the Roman's!
tell that to the scandavians who came over and helped shape the UK we have today, including in the naming of our glorious town in their own language and evolved to what we have today!
tell that to the Dutch and Belgians who came over during the industrial revolution and helped to mae the North West and especially the area surrounding Manchester rich and famous for its cotton industry!

Now you tell me that it is all claptrap and that multiculturism doesn't work.

If it wasn't for all the above you wouldn't be who you are now, and in fact It would probably be a high percentage that you wouldn't have been born!!!!

You don't like Eastern European coming here, of which many are actually Roman Catholic - such as all the Pols and then you moan about the Catholic and CofE Churches congregations lowering - you ought to be happy they are here in helping to raise the number of the congregations - at least they follow their religion unlike many British do nowadays! How many more churches would have closed if they hadn't come over?

So before you write a load of garbage - look what it has done and be proud of the fact rather than being a pitiful spiteful gutless individual!!!

Where were you this morning? I know you read the comment about meeting up! So again I send out this message, I will be waiting for the 0759 train tomorrow morning under the white number 2, on a black square, sign (outside the staffroom) on platform 1 - do you have the guts to come and meet me and tell me to my face of what you think of me - in front of witnesses (so there can be no fisticuffs)
if i thought that you could ever listen to a point of view other than your own then i would, but you are such an arrogant egotist you never could.
You are right about one thing though the temptation to beat the carp out of you would be far to great i'm afraid...
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: It's anti English idiots like yourself that are ruining the country with your pro immigration and multicultural claptrap. Multiculturism is like communism in the regard that it looks good on paper but in practice just doesn't work because of the one common denominator that wasn't emphasised enough in these two theologies and that ladies and gentlemen is human beings :- the worst animal on the planet. People should live within their own cultures and if people are stupid enought to follow a religion then they should live within the boundaries of that too...[/p][/quote]tell that to all your Irish friends who moved here for the building of canals and railways! tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here to help in the war effort and after the war when there was a shortage of jobs! tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" who came over during the Cold War to escape the communist regimes! tell that to all the people who came over when they were still part of the British Empire! tell that to the Romas who came from all over the Romaan Empire and settled in the UK! tell that to the franco's who came over and relived us from the Roman's! tell that to the scandavians who came over and helped shape the UK we have today, including in the naming of our glorious town in their own language and evolved to what we have today! tell that to the Dutch and Belgians who came over during the industrial revolution and helped to mae the North West and especially the area surrounding Manchester rich and famous for its cotton industry! Now you tell me that it is all claptrap and that multiculturism doesn't work. If it wasn't for all the above you wouldn't be who you are now, and in fact It would probably be a high percentage that you wouldn't have been born!!!! You don't like Eastern European coming here, of which many are actually Roman Catholic - such as all the Pols and then you moan about the Catholic and CofE Churches congregations lowering - you ought to be happy they are here in helping to raise the number of the congregations - at least they follow their religion unlike many British do nowadays! How many more churches would have closed if they hadn't come over? So before you write a load of garbage - look what it has done and be proud of the fact rather than being a pitiful spiteful gutless individual!!! Where were you this morning? I know you read the comment about meeting up! So again I send out this message, I will be waiting for the 0759 train tomorrow morning under the white number 2, on a black square, sign (outside the staffroom) on platform 1 - do you have the guts to come and meet me and tell me to my face of what you think of me - in front of witnesses (so there can be no fisticuffs)[/p][/quote]if i thought that you could ever listen to a point of view other than your own then i would, but you are such an arrogant egotist you never could. You are right about one thing though the temptation to beat the carp out of you would be far to great i'm afraid... George X
  • Score: 3

9:22pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
It's anti English idiots like yourself that are ruining the country with your pro immigration and multicultural claptrap.
Multiculturism is like communism in the regard that it looks good on paper but in practice just doesn't work because of the one common denominator that wasn't emphasised enough in these two theologies and that ladies and gentlemen is human beings :- the worst animal on the planet.
People should live within their own cultures and if people are stupid enought to follow a religion then they should live within the boundaries of that too...
tell that to all your Irish friends who moved here for the building of canals and railways!
tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here to help in the war effort and after the war when there was a shortage of jobs!
tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" who came over during the Cold War to escape the communist regimes!
tell that to all the people who came over when they were still part of the British Empire!
tell that to the Romas who came from all over the Romaan Empire and settled in the UK!
tell that to the franco's who came over and relived us from the Roman's!
tell that to the scandavians who came over and helped shape the UK we have today, including in the naming of our glorious town in their own language and evolved to what we have today!
tell that to the Dutch and Belgians who came over during the industrial revolution and helped to mae the North West and especially the area surrounding Manchester rich and famous for its cotton industry!

Now you tell me that it is all claptrap and that multiculturism doesn't work.

If it wasn't for all the above you wouldn't be who you are now, and in fact It would probably be a high percentage that you wouldn't have been born!!!!

You don't like Eastern European coming here, of which many are actually Roman Catholic - such as all the Pols and then you moan about the Catholic and CofE Churches congregations lowering - you ought to be happy they are here in helping to raise the number of the congregations - at least they follow their religion unlike many British do nowadays! How many more churches would have closed if they hadn't come over?

So before you write a load of garbage - look what it has done and be proud of the fact rather than being a pitiful spiteful gutless individual!!!

Where were you this morning? I know you read the comment about meeting up! So again I send out this message, I will be waiting for the 0759 train tomorrow morning under the white number 2, on a black square, sign (outside the staffroom) on platform 1 - do you have the guts to come and meet me and tell me to my face of what you think of me - in front of witnesses (so there can be no fisticuffs)
if i thought that you could ever listen to a point of view other than your own then i would, but you are such an arrogant egotist you never could.
You are right about one thing though the temptation to beat the carp out of you would be far to great i'm afraid...
so you are chickening out?

Have you commented on this news report?

No you haven't - all you have done, yet again is log on and give verbal abuse to a poster!

Have you ever posted on a news report - No you haven't!

You are one of the reasons why decent discussions no longer happen on here because of your verbal abuse to me and other posters!

Will you ever learn to be a human - possibly never. But there again I expect nothing less from a moron!

I give you the freedom to kick the crap out of me - Bolton station at 759 tomorrow morning or be the person that chickened out of beating me up!!!!
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: It's anti English idiots like yourself that are ruining the country with your pro immigration and multicultural claptrap. Multiculturism is like communism in the regard that it looks good on paper but in practice just doesn't work because of the one common denominator that wasn't emphasised enough in these two theologies and that ladies and gentlemen is human beings :- the worst animal on the planet. People should live within their own cultures and if people are stupid enought to follow a religion then they should live within the boundaries of that too...[/p][/quote]tell that to all your Irish friends who moved here for the building of canals and railways! tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here to help in the war effort and after the war when there was a shortage of jobs! tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" who came over during the Cold War to escape the communist regimes! tell that to all the people who came over when they were still part of the British Empire! tell that to the Romas who came from all over the Romaan Empire and settled in the UK! tell that to the franco's who came over and relived us from the Roman's! tell that to the scandavians who came over and helped shape the UK we have today, including in the naming of our glorious town in their own language and evolved to what we have today! tell that to the Dutch and Belgians who came over during the industrial revolution and helped to mae the North West and especially the area surrounding Manchester rich and famous for its cotton industry! Now you tell me that it is all claptrap and that multiculturism doesn't work. If it wasn't for all the above you wouldn't be who you are now, and in fact It would probably be a high percentage that you wouldn't have been born!!!! You don't like Eastern European coming here, of which many are actually Roman Catholic - such as all the Pols and then you moan about the Catholic and CofE Churches congregations lowering - you ought to be happy they are here in helping to raise the number of the congregations - at least they follow their religion unlike many British do nowadays! How many more churches would have closed if they hadn't come over? So before you write a load of garbage - look what it has done and be proud of the fact rather than being a pitiful spiteful gutless individual!!! Where were you this morning? I know you read the comment about meeting up! So again I send out this message, I will be waiting for the 0759 train tomorrow morning under the white number 2, on a black square, sign (outside the staffroom) on platform 1 - do you have the guts to come and meet me and tell me to my face of what you think of me - in front of witnesses (so there can be no fisticuffs)[/p][/quote]if i thought that you could ever listen to a point of view other than your own then i would, but you are such an arrogant egotist you never could. You are right about one thing though the temptation to beat the carp out of you would be far to great i'm afraid...[/p][/quote]so you are chickening out? Have you commented on this news report? No you haven't - all you have done, yet again is log on and give verbal abuse to a poster! Have you ever posted on a news report - No you haven't! You are one of the reasons why decent discussions no longer happen on here because of your verbal abuse to me and other posters! Will you ever learn to be a human - possibly never. But there again I expect nothing less from a moron! I give you the freedom to kick the crap out of me - Bolton station at 759 tomorrow morning or be the person that chickened out of beating me up!!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -23

9:32pm Mon 3 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

why don't people just live near to where they work

simples
why don't people just live near to where they work simples mdavies11
  • Score: -4

9:39pm Mon 3 Mar 14

George X says...

I have invented another form of transportation, well more of a reinvention anyway.
I'm sure all of you have seen the goodyear blimp at some point well my idea is to have a large airship similar to a blimp with the load bearing capacity to carry 500 tons of freight namely pasenger compartments and small items of cargo
the airship would have a ground station much like a large car park where people could embark and from there would be dragged by way of a ground tether to popular destinations i.e.Bolton to Manchester
The tether would serve two purposes obviously one would be to propell the ship to it's destination and the other would be to steady the craft in strong winds etc.
I estimate the journey time could be as little as ten minutes or even less.
I publish this for the good of mankind, god bless my ship and all who sail in her !!
I have invented another form of transportation, well more of a reinvention anyway. I'm sure all of you have seen the goodyear blimp at some point well my idea is to have a large airship similar to a blimp with the load bearing capacity to carry 500 tons of freight namely pasenger compartments and small items of cargo the airship would have a ground station much like a large car park where people could embark and from there would be dragged by way of a ground tether to popular destinations i.e.Bolton to Manchester The tether would serve two purposes obviously one would be to propell the ship to it's destination and the other would be to steady the craft in strong winds etc. I estimate the journey time could be as little as ten minutes or even less. I publish this for the good of mankind, god bless my ship and all who sail in her !! George X
  • Score: 1

9:40pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
Hands up all those who agree that BWFC714 and Thomas222 are a couple of egotistical, childish morons who have now totally hijacked this thread with their lunatic ravings.
Apologies Darren but the thumbs are from the same person who is murdering this website. No one has been able to do a serious decent debate over the last 6 months because of Thomas and 4 other people who are doing everything to destroy the good name of the paper!!!! And it seems I am the only person that will defend this paper!
Make that Thomas + 5. I think I've said it before, but you're no better than they are - just look at the way, between you, that you've totally taken over this thread. In my opinion, you should ALL be sectioned IMMEDIATELY.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Hands up all those who agree that BWFC714 and Thomas222 are a couple of egotistical, childish morons who have now totally hijacked this thread with their lunatic ravings.[/p][/quote]Apologies Darren but the thumbs are from the same person who is murdering this website. No one has been able to do a serious decent debate over the last 6 months because of Thomas and 4 other people who are doing everything to destroy the good name of the paper!!!! And it seems I am the only person that will defend this paper![/p][/quote]Make that Thomas + 5. I think I've said it before, but you're no better than they are - just look at the way, between you, that you've totally taken over this thread. In my opinion, you should ALL be sectioned IMMEDIATELY. Darren1951
  • Score: 17

9:43pm Mon 3 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

everyone should jog to work and they would be slim and attractive like me
everyone should jog to work and they would be slim and attractive like me mdavies11
  • Score: -4

9:43pm Mon 3 Mar 14

George X says...

mdavies11 wrote:
everyone should jog to work and they would be slim and attractive like me
Pictures please !!
[quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: everyone should jog to work and they would be slim and attractive like me[/p][/quote]Pictures please !! George X
  • Score: -1

9:50pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

mdavies11 wrote:
why don't people just live near to where they work

simples
Because there are no houses, just apartments near where I work! Plus why should I pay over the odds on a mortgage or rent for a city-centre apartment when its cheaper to live here in Bolton and actually get more for my money? I am Bolton born and bred, unlike some on here!!!
[quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: why don't people just live near to where they work simples[/p][/quote]Because there are no houses, just apartments near where I work! Plus why should I pay over the odds on a mortgage or rent for a city-centre apartment when its cheaper to live here in Bolton and actually get more for my money? I am Bolton born and bred, unlike some on here!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -19

9:52pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
I have invented another form of transportation, well more of a reinvention anyway.
I'm sure all of you have seen the goodyear blimp at some point well my idea is to have a large airship similar to a blimp with the load bearing capacity to carry 500 tons of freight namely pasenger compartments and small items of cargo
the airship would have a ground station much like a large car park where people could embark and from there would be dragged by way of a ground tether to popular destinations i.e.Bolton to Manchester
The tether would serve two purposes obviously one would be to propell the ship to it's destination and the other would be to steady the craft in strong winds etc.
I estimate the journey time could be as little as ten minutes or even less.
I publish this for the good of mankind, god bless my ship and all who sail in her !!
Where would the blip stations be?


It takes me about 10 minutes to drive to Bolton station, 16 minutes by train and then 8 minutes on foot to the office!!! So that is just under 40 minutes from home to office!

It seems the blimp idea would take longer!
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: I have invented another form of transportation, well more of a reinvention anyway. I'm sure all of you have seen the goodyear blimp at some point well my idea is to have a large airship similar to a blimp with the load bearing capacity to carry 500 tons of freight namely pasenger compartments and small items of cargo the airship would have a ground station much like a large car park where people could embark and from there would be dragged by way of a ground tether to popular destinations i.e.Bolton to Manchester The tether would serve two purposes obviously one would be to propell the ship to it's destination and the other would be to steady the craft in strong winds etc. I estimate the journey time could be as little as ten minutes or even less. I publish this for the good of mankind, god bless my ship and all who sail in her !![/p][/quote]Where would the blip stations be? It takes me about 10 minutes to drive to Bolton station, 16 minutes by train and then 8 minutes on foot to the office!!! So that is just under 40 minutes from home to office! It seems the blimp idea would take longer! BWFC71
  • Score: -22

9:59pm Mon 3 Mar 14

George X says...

Obviously the logistics would have to run like clockwork and it would be more adventageous to go longer distances at first but he sizes of airships could be varied and could possibly look something like a ski lift moving through the sky being able to drop off the tether to stop off at smaller destinations.
Obviously the logistics would have to run like clockwork and it would be more adventageous to go longer distances at first but he sizes of airships could be varied and could possibly look something like a ski lift moving through the sky being able to drop off the tether to stop off at smaller destinations. George X
  • Score: 0

10:01pm Mon 3 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

"Bolton born and bred unlike some on here"

"tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here
tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... "
etc. ( you get my point )
You seem confused
"Bolton born and bred unlike some on here" "tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... " etc. ( you get my point ) You seem confused mdavies11
  • Score: 0

10:10pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

mdavies11 wrote:
"Bolton born and bred unlike some on here"

"tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here
tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... "
etc. ( you get my point )
You seem confused
You know what I mean - I mean some of the posters who are internet trolls are are not based or have anything to do with Bolton! Yes I am Bolton born and bred, but at this moment in time do not feel proud due to idiots who dismiss visitors to this wonderful town as worse than urchins!

Since when was Bolton a nationality?

I lived in Almere for 7 years and felt adopted to the city, just as much as many come to Bolton but also many do not feel adopted because of some pathetic individuals such as some on here!!!
[quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: "Bolton born and bred unlike some on here" "tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... " etc. ( you get my point ) You seem confused[/p][/quote]You know what I mean - I mean some of the posters who are internet trolls are are not based or have anything to do with Bolton! Yes I am Bolton born and bred, but at this moment in time do not feel proud due to idiots who dismiss visitors to this wonderful town as worse than urchins! Since when was Bolton a nationality? I lived in Almere for 7 years and felt adopted to the city, just as much as many come to Bolton but also many do not feel adopted because of some pathetic individuals such as some on here!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -51

10:28pm Mon 3 Mar 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
mdavies11 wrote:
"Bolton born and bred unlike some on here"

"tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here
tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... "
etc. ( you get my point )
You seem confused
You know what I mean - I mean some of the posters who are internet trolls are are not based or have anything to do with Bolton! Yes I am Bolton born and bred, but at this moment in time do not feel proud due to idiots who dismiss visitors to this wonderful town as worse than urchins!

Since when was Bolton a nationality?

I lived in Almere for 7 years and felt adopted to the city, just as much as many come to Bolton but also many do not feel adopted because of some pathetic individuals such as some on here!!!
You live in cloud cuckoo land, if it was left to your ilk the country would be a third world ghetto by 2050, immigration at this present time isn't good but the real killer is multiculturalism , you can defend it as much as you like but i can see a civil war on the cards and not far off either...
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: "Bolton born and bred unlike some on here" "tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... " etc. ( you get my point ) You seem confused[/p][/quote]You know what I mean - I mean some of the posters who are internet trolls are are not based or have anything to do with Bolton! Yes I am Bolton born and bred, but at this moment in time do not feel proud due to idiots who dismiss visitors to this wonderful town as worse than urchins! Since when was Bolton a nationality? I lived in Almere for 7 years and felt adopted to the city, just as much as many come to Bolton but also many do not feel adopted because of some pathetic individuals such as some on here!!![/p][/quote]You live in cloud cuckoo land, if it was left to your ilk the country would be a third world ghetto by 2050, immigration at this present time isn't good but the real killer is multiculturalism , you can defend it as much as you like but i can see a civil war on the cards and not far off either... George X
  • Score: 6

10:46pm Mon 3 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

you should celebrate multiculturalism by regularly going out and hugging asians on the street like i do

i think they were asian

they looked asian anyway
you should celebrate multiculturalism by regularly going out and hugging asians on the street like i do i think they were asian they looked asian anyway mdavies11
  • Score: -1

10:52pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
mdavies11 wrote:
"Bolton born and bred unlike some on here"

"tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here
tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... "
etc. ( you get my point )
You seem confused
You know what I mean - I mean some of the posters who are internet trolls are are not based or have anything to do with Bolton! Yes I am Bolton born and bred, but at this moment in time do not feel proud due to idiots who dismiss visitors to this wonderful town as worse than urchins!

Since when was Bolton a nationality?

I lived in Almere for 7 years and felt adopted to the city, just as much as many come to Bolton but also many do not feel adopted because of some pathetic individuals such as some on here!!!
You live in cloud cuckoo land, if it was left to your ilk the country would be a third world ghetto by 2050, immigration at this present time isn't good but the real killer is multiculturalism , you can defend it as much as you like but i can see a civil war on the cards and not far off either...
Cloud cuckoo land???

I know lets get rid of the 2.5 migrants from the UK (1.5 from the EU and the rest from outside the EU) but we will have to accept back the 8 million UK migrant workers (2.8 million in the EU and the rest from outside the EU). They are the bare facts. There are many more UK migrants in the EU and outside the EU than what there is of EU and non-EU migrants in the UK!!!!

So if we swapped and got all the UK ones back where are they going to go???? Where are the jobs? etc etc etc IN fact the UK would be in a much worse position that what we are now.

Here is a fact:
Nigel Farage goes to Germany and comes back with a German wife and 2 children thus that is 300% more in his family coming into the UK than what left the country!
I know someone who went to live in The Netherlands, got married and had 3 children and now live in the UK - so that means that 400% more people came back.

Now multiply that by the number of migrant UK workers in both the EU and outside the EU and now what if they all came back to the UK?

IT is nowhere near as black and white as you think it is and multiculturism does work otherwise we wouldn't have the UK what we have today and we would still be living in mud-huts!!!!

You are only saying the same as what people did last century with the Jewish followerrs and then after the war with the misplaced Europeans and then during the 1950's with the African community and then the 1960's with the Indians, Chinese etc etc etc and then in the 1980's Gays were shown to be the dregs of society and now its back to the Eastern Europeans!!!! Who is it going to be next decade or the decade after? And yet life goes on, integration does take place and multiculturism is happening, even though you don't want it to!!!!

How often do you go to an Italian Restaurant or a Tapas restaurant or a Turkish restaurant or an Indian restaurant or go to your local chippy for a Chinese takeway or a chippy meal or go to your corner shop to buy goods from your Indian or Pakistani shop keeper? What about your car, is it British built if so who owns the factory? or what about your clothes that you are wearing - were they made in the UK, if so who operates the factory? Also what about Cadbury's - made in Poland and UK for an American food manufacturer for the British consumer!!!
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: "Bolton born and bred unlike some on here" "tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... " etc. ( you get my point ) You seem confused[/p][/quote]You know what I mean - I mean some of the posters who are internet trolls are are not based or have anything to do with Bolton! Yes I am Bolton born and bred, but at this moment in time do not feel proud due to idiots who dismiss visitors to this wonderful town as worse than urchins! Since when was Bolton a nationality? I lived in Almere for 7 years and felt adopted to the city, just as much as many come to Bolton but also many do not feel adopted because of some pathetic individuals such as some on here!!![/p][/quote]You live in cloud cuckoo land, if it was left to your ilk the country would be a third world ghetto by 2050, immigration at this present time isn't good but the real killer is multiculturalism , you can defend it as much as you like but i can see a civil war on the cards and not far off either...[/p][/quote]Cloud cuckoo land??? I know lets get rid of the 2.5 migrants from the UK (1.5 from the EU and the rest from outside the EU) but we will have to accept back the 8 million UK migrant workers (2.8 million in the EU and the rest from outside the EU). They are the bare facts. There are many more UK migrants in the EU and outside the EU than what there is of EU and non-EU migrants in the UK!!!! So if we swapped and got all the UK ones back where are they going to go???? Where are the jobs? etc etc etc IN fact the UK would be in a much worse position that what we are now. Here is a fact: Nigel Farage goes to Germany and comes back with a German wife and 2 children thus that is 300% more in his family coming into the UK than what left the country! I know someone who went to live in The Netherlands, got married and had 3 children and now live in the UK - so that means that 400% more people came back. Now multiply that by the number of migrant UK workers in both the EU and outside the EU and now what if they all came back to the UK? IT is nowhere near as black and white as you think it is and multiculturism does work otherwise we wouldn't have the UK what we have today and we would still be living in mud-huts!!!! You are only saying the same as what people did last century with the Jewish followerrs and then after the war with the misplaced Europeans and then during the 1950's with the African community and then the 1960's with the Indians, Chinese etc etc etc and then in the 1980's Gays were shown to be the dregs of society and now its back to the Eastern Europeans!!!! Who is it going to be next decade or the decade after? And yet life goes on, integration does take place and multiculturism is happening, even though you don't want it to!!!! How often do you go to an Italian Restaurant or a Tapas restaurant or a Turkish restaurant or an Indian restaurant or go to your local chippy for a Chinese takeway or a chippy meal or go to your corner shop to buy goods from your Indian or Pakistani shop keeper? What about your car, is it British built if so who owns the factory? or what about your clothes that you are wearing - were they made in the UK, if so who operates the factory? Also what about Cadbury's - made in Poland and UK for an American food manufacturer for the British consumer!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -33

10:54pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

mdavies11 wrote:
you should celebrate multiculturalism by regularly going out and hugging asians on the street like i do

i think they were asian

they looked asian anyway
Chinese origin, Indian Origin, Ceylon Origin or Japanese origin - all Asian descendants!
[quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: you should celebrate multiculturalism by regularly going out and hugging asians on the street like i do i think they were asian they looked asian anyway[/p][/quote]Chinese origin, Indian Origin, Ceylon Origin or Japanese origin - all Asian descendants! BWFC71
  • Score: -38

11:11pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Yeah, ok, I have lost my rag today.

I am fed up of the same people turning threads into racially abusive or racial hatred threads even from nothing. Sick to death of the verbal abuse not just I get but many others from the same individuals and sick to death of the constant same old same old, again from the same sick individuals! A cull of these so-called Boltonians (or a I call them internet trolls) ought to be the exercise of the day and try to get this website back to how it was only 6 months ago when people were not frightened of posting their views or were not given political rhetoric about UKIP or more or less every thread. Yes I am in the minority against these trolls as I am fed up of the way this website has become - a voice piece for anger and racial hatred!!! And if that means I get booted off for trying to defend this paper from these idiots, then so be it!!!

Fed up of the mis-use of the thumbs - if anything they ought to be disabled until or amore secure system can be used, as we all know it is one or two people using a macro program of some sort. If anything the thumbs are a prime example on what not to do with people's comments as, which has been seen over the last 4 months, become very hostile and is a form of internet bullying!!!
Yeah, ok, I have lost my rag today. I am fed up of the same people turning threads into racially abusive or racial hatred threads even from nothing. Sick to death of the verbal abuse not just I get but many others from the same individuals and sick to death of the constant same old same old, again from the same sick individuals! A cull of these so-called Boltonians (or a I call them internet trolls) ought to be the exercise of the day and try to get this website back to how it was only 6 months ago when people were not frightened of posting their views or were not given political rhetoric about UKIP or more or less every thread. Yes I am in the minority against these trolls as I am fed up of the way this website has become - a voice piece for anger and racial hatred!!! And if that means I get booted off for trying to defend this paper from these idiots, then so be it!!! Fed up of the mis-use of the thumbs - if anything they ought to be disabled until or amore secure system can be used, as we all know it is one or two people using a macro program of some sort. If anything the thumbs are a prime example on what not to do with people's comments as, which has been seen over the last 4 months, become very hostile and is a form of internet bullying!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -44

11:19pm Mon 3 Mar 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
mdavies11 wrote:
"Bolton born and bred unlike some on here"

"tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here
tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... "
etc. ( you get my point )
You seem confused
You know what I mean - I mean some of the posters who are internet trolls are are not based or have anything to do with Bolton! Yes I am Bolton born and bred, but at this moment in time do not feel proud due to idiots who dismiss visitors to this wonderful town as worse than urchins!

Since when was Bolton a nationality?

I lived in Almere for 7 years and felt adopted to the city, just as much as many come to Bolton but also many do not feel adopted because of some pathetic individuals such as some on here!!!
You live in cloud cuckoo land, if it was left to your ilk the country would be a third world ghetto by 2050, immigration at this present time isn't good but the real killer is multiculturalism , you can defend it as much as you like but i can see a civil war on the cards and not far off either...
Cloud cuckoo land???

I know lets get rid of the 2.5 migrants from the UK (1.5 from the EU and the rest from outside the EU) but we will have to accept back the 8 million UK migrant workers (2.8 million in the EU and the rest from outside the EU). They are the bare facts. There are many more UK migrants in the EU and outside the EU than what there is of EU and non-EU migrants in the UK!!!!

So if we swapped and got all the UK ones back where are they going to go???? Where are the jobs? etc etc etc IN fact the UK would be in a much worse position that what we are now.

Here is a fact:
Nigel Farage goes to Germany and comes back with a German wife and 2 children thus that is 300% more in his family coming into the UK than what left the country!
I know someone who went to live in The Netherlands, got married and had 3 children and now live in the UK - so that means that 400% more people came back.

Now multiply that by the number of migrant UK workers in both the EU and outside the EU and now what if they all came back to the UK?

IT is nowhere near as black and white as you think it is and multiculturism does work otherwise we wouldn't have the UK what we have today and we would still be living in mud-huts!!!!

You are only saying the same as what people did last century with the Jewish followerrs and then after the war with the misplaced Europeans and then during the 1950's with the African community and then the 1960's with the Indians, Chinese etc etc etc and then in the 1980's Gays were shown to be the dregs of society and now its back to the Eastern Europeans!!!! Who is it going to be next decade or the decade after? And yet life goes on, integration does take place and multiculturism is happening, even though you don't want it to!!!!

How often do you go to an Italian Restaurant or a Tapas restaurant or a Turkish restaurant or an Indian restaurant or go to your local chippy for a Chinese takeway or a chippy meal or go to your corner shop to buy goods from your Indian or Pakistani shop keeper? What about your car, is it British built if so who owns the factory? or what about your clothes that you are wearing - were they made in the UK, if so who operates the factory? Also what about Cadbury's - made in Poland and UK for an American food manufacturer for the British consumer!!!
Everybody in the world is racist, even you ! you made a statement earlier about English lout, that's racist by definition.
Even the Pakistani's who you might think would be more tolerent toward foreigners are angry at the new influx of foreigners here.
Anybody whe sees their way of life threatened by unwanted interlopers goes on the defensive to the point of racism, it's just human nature .
I know people that have vowed never to buy or trade with a certain section of the community ever again and that has changed in the last 4 or 5 years.
I think it's all down to percentages, it was ok when it was 1 or 2 percent
of the population that were foreigners but now that were awash and it's starting to impact on peoples lives more people are starting to get disgruntled, just watch what happens with ukip over the next few years...
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: "Bolton born and bred unlike some on here" "tell that to all the African nationalities who moved here tell that to all the Poles and other "Eastern Europeans" ... " etc. ( you get my point ) You seem confused[/p][/quote]You know what I mean - I mean some of the posters who are internet trolls are are not based or have anything to do with Bolton! Yes I am Bolton born and bred, but at this moment in time do not feel proud due to idiots who dismiss visitors to this wonderful town as worse than urchins! Since when was Bolton a nationality? I lived in Almere for 7 years and felt adopted to the city, just as much as many come to Bolton but also many do not feel adopted because of some pathetic individuals such as some on here!!![/p][/quote]You live in cloud cuckoo land, if it was left to your ilk the country would be a third world ghetto by 2050, immigration at this present time isn't good but the real killer is multiculturalism , you can defend it as much as you like but i can see a civil war on the cards and not far off either...[/p][/quote]Cloud cuckoo land??? I know lets get rid of the 2.5 migrants from the UK (1.5 from the EU and the rest from outside the EU) but we will have to accept back the 8 million UK migrant workers (2.8 million in the EU and the rest from outside the EU). They are the bare facts. There are many more UK migrants in the EU and outside the EU than what there is of EU and non-EU migrants in the UK!!!! So if we swapped and got all the UK ones back where are they going to go???? Where are the jobs? etc etc etc IN fact the UK would be in a much worse position that what we are now. Here is a fact: Nigel Farage goes to Germany and comes back with a German wife and 2 children thus that is 300% more in his family coming into the UK than what left the country! I know someone who went to live in The Netherlands, got married and had 3 children and now live in the UK - so that means that 400% more people came back. Now multiply that by the number of migrant UK workers in both the EU and outside the EU and now what if they all came back to the UK? IT is nowhere near as black and white as you think it is and multiculturism does work otherwise we wouldn't have the UK what we have today and we would still be living in mud-huts!!!! You are only saying the same as what people did last century with the Jewish followerrs and then after the war with the misplaced Europeans and then during the 1950's with the African community and then the 1960's with the Indians, Chinese etc etc etc and then in the 1980's Gays were shown to be the dregs of society and now its back to the Eastern Europeans!!!! Who is it going to be next decade or the decade after? And yet life goes on, integration does take place and multiculturism is happening, even though you don't want it to!!!! How often do you go to an Italian Restaurant or a Tapas restaurant or a Turkish restaurant or an Indian restaurant or go to your local chippy for a Chinese takeway or a chippy meal or go to your corner shop to buy goods from your Indian or Pakistani shop keeper? What about your car, is it British built if so who owns the factory? or what about your clothes that you are wearing - were they made in the UK, if so who operates the factory? Also what about Cadbury's - made in Poland and UK for an American food manufacturer for the British consumer!!![/p][/quote]Everybody in the world is racist, even you ! you made a statement earlier about English lout, that's racist by definition. Even the Pakistani's who you might think would be more tolerent toward foreigners are angry at the new influx of foreigners here. Anybody whe sees their way of life threatened by unwanted interlopers goes on the defensive to the point of racism, it's just human nature . I know people that have vowed never to buy or trade with a certain section of the community ever again and that has changed in the last 4 or 5 years. I think it's all down to percentages, it was ok when it was 1 or 2 percent of the population that were foreigners but now that were awash and it's starting to impact on peoples lives more people are starting to get disgruntled, just watch what happens with ukip over the next few years... George X
  • Score: 3

11:29pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

UKIP fronted by a banker who has an offshore bank account to avoid paying taxes and wouldn't know what to do if the 8+million were forced back to the UK (excluding all those who now live in Australia or New Zealand which would easily double the 8million figure) if we forced out the migrants!!!!!

Be honest now. but what would you rather have..... 2.5 million migrant workers (of which 1.5 are from the EU) or the return of 8+ million British migrant workers which would increase the population by another 5.5+million?

Also do not forget that the migrant workers coming into the workers coming into the UK also includes UK migrants already coming back to the UK.
UKIP fronted by a banker who has an offshore bank account to avoid paying taxes and wouldn't know what to do if the 8+million were forced back to the UK (excluding all those who now live in Australia or New Zealand which would easily double the 8million figure) if we forced out the migrants!!!!! Be honest now. but what would you rather have..... 2.5 million migrant workers (of which 1.5 are from the EU) or the return of 8+ million British migrant workers which would increase the population by another 5.5+million? Also do not forget that the migrant workers coming into the workers coming into the UK also includes UK migrants already coming back to the UK. BWFC71
  • Score: -67

11:48pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Anybody on here wanna discuss railways?
Anybody on here wanna discuss railways? Darren1951
  • Score: 5

12:14am Tue 4 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren, the other thread is best bet for that considering this has been messed up (yes partially by me)!
Darren, the other thread is best bet for that considering this has been messed up (yes partially by me)! BWFC71
  • Score: -53

12:53am Tue 4 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Yeah, ok, I have lost my rag today.

I am fed up of the same people turning threads into racially abusive or racial hatred threads even from nothing. Sick to death of the verbal abuse not just I get but many others from the same individuals and sick to death of the constant same old same old, again from the same sick individuals! A cull of these so-called Boltonians (or a I call them internet trolls) ought to be the exercise of the day and try to get this website back to how it was only 6 months ago when people were not frightened of posting their views or were not given political rhetoric about UKIP or more or less every thread. Yes I am in the minority against these trolls as I am fed up of the way this website has become - a voice piece for anger and racial hatred!!! And if that means I get booted off for trying to defend this paper from these idiots, then so be it!!!

Fed up of the mis-use of the thumbs - if anything they ought to be disabled until or amore secure system can be used, as we all know it is one or two people using a macro program of some sort. If anything the thumbs are a prime example on what not to do with people's comments as, which has been seen over the last 4 months, become very hostile and is a form of internet bullying!!!
Thumbs down is a form of internet bullying? Have you seen what you've been posting to this article? Sheesh... get some self-awareness mate.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Yeah, ok, I have lost my rag today. I am fed up of the same people turning threads into racially abusive or racial hatred threads even from nothing. Sick to death of the verbal abuse not just I get but many others from the same individuals and sick to death of the constant same old same old, again from the same sick individuals! A cull of these so-called Boltonians (or a I call them internet trolls) ought to be the exercise of the day and try to get this website back to how it was only 6 months ago when people were not frightened of posting their views or were not given political rhetoric about UKIP or more or less every thread. Yes I am in the minority against these trolls as I am fed up of the way this website has become - a voice piece for anger and racial hatred!!! And if that means I get booted off for trying to defend this paper from these idiots, then so be it!!! Fed up of the mis-use of the thumbs - if anything they ought to be disabled until or amore secure system can be used, as we all know it is one or two people using a macro program of some sort. If anything the thumbs are a prime example on what not to do with people's comments as, which has been seen over the last 4 months, become very hostile and is a form of internet bullying!!![/p][/quote]Thumbs down is a form of internet bullying? Have you seen what you've been posting to this article? Sheesh... get some self-awareness mate. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 4

7:28am Tue 4 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Yeah, ok, I have lost my rag today.

I am fed up of the same people turning threads into racially abusive or racial hatred threads even from nothing. Sick to death of the verbal abuse not just I get but many others from the same individuals and sick to death of the constant same old same old, again from the same sick individuals! A cull of these so-called Boltonians (or a I call them internet trolls) ought to be the exercise of the day and try to get this website back to how it was only 6 months ago when people were not frightened of posting their views or were not given political rhetoric about UKIP or more or less every thread. Yes I am in the minority against these trolls as I am fed up of the way this website has become - a voice piece for anger and racial hatred!!! And if that means I get booted off for trying to defend this paper from these idiots, then so be it!!!

Fed up of the mis-use of the thumbs - if anything they ought to be disabled until or amore secure system can be used, as we all know it is one or two people using a macro program of some sort. If anything the thumbs are a prime example on what not to do with people's comments as, which has been seen over the last 4 months, become very hostile and is a form of internet bullying!!!
Thumbs down is a form of internet bullying? Have you seen what you've been posting to this article? Sheesh... get some self-awareness mate.
Hear, hear! Can anyone recommend a good lobotomist?
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Yeah, ok, I have lost my rag today. I am fed up of the same people turning threads into racially abusive or racial hatred threads even from nothing. Sick to death of the verbal abuse not just I get but many others from the same individuals and sick to death of the constant same old same old, again from the same sick individuals! A cull of these so-called Boltonians (or a I call them internet trolls) ought to be the exercise of the day and try to get this website back to how it was only 6 months ago when people were not frightened of posting their views or were not given political rhetoric about UKIP or more or less every thread. Yes I am in the minority against these trolls as I am fed up of the way this website has become - a voice piece for anger and racial hatred!!! And if that means I get booted off for trying to defend this paper from these idiots, then so be it!!! Fed up of the mis-use of the thumbs - if anything they ought to be disabled until or amore secure system can be used, as we all know it is one or two people using a macro program of some sort. If anything the thumbs are a prime example on what not to do with people's comments as, which has been seen over the last 4 months, become very hostile and is a form of internet bullying!!![/p][/quote]Thumbs down is a form of internet bullying? Have you seen what you've been posting to this article? Sheesh... get some self-awareness mate.[/p][/quote]Hear, hear! Can anyone recommend a good lobotomist? Darren1951
  • Score: 4

7:40am Tue 4 Mar 14

angus macoatup says...

BWFC71 your the racist foul mouthed scum , you should be banned of here
BWFC71 your the racist foul mouthed scum , you should be banned of here angus macoatup
  • Score: 3

8:00am Tue 4 Mar 14

Lee3695 says...

Thomas222, Righteous one/BWFC71. Could you both please make comments without continually resorting to foul and abusive language. The topic is about train overcrowding at Bolton but as with other posts, you seem to end up making personal attacks on one another via this website. I'm all for freedom of speech but there is a limit which the pair of you seem to regularly go beyond. By all means mark this comment with a thumbs down if it makes you feel better and even resort to using foul language to berate me, all it proves in the end is that the pair of you cannot be taken seriously as you can't put your point across without getting offensive.
Thomas222, Righteous one/BWFC71. Could you both please make comments without continually resorting to foul and abusive language. The topic is about train overcrowding at Bolton but as with other posts, you seem to end up making personal attacks on one another via this website. I'm all for freedom of speech but there is a limit which the pair of you seem to regularly go beyond. By all means mark this comment with a thumbs down if it makes you feel better and even resort to using foul language to berate me, all it proves in the end is that the pair of you cannot be taken seriously as you can't put your point across without getting offensive. Lee3695
  • Score: 5

8:50am Tue 4 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

angus macoatup wrote:
BWFC71 your the racist foul mouthed scum , you should be banned of here
1st opst on the site and abusive - very big, very clever and very adult of you!
[quote][p][bold]angus macoatup[/bold] wrote: BWFC71 your the racist foul mouthed scum , you should be banned of here[/p][/quote]1st opst on the site and abusive - very big, very clever and very adult of you! The Righteous One
  • Score: -40

9:15am Tue 4 Mar 14

Maplins Holiday Camp says...

To be fair to all involved with the so-called argument. I have seen this coming as to what happened last night.

BWFC71/The Righteous One has been got at in every thread the person has posted in and by the same people. It was just a matter of time before he/she flipped. Any normal person would have done the same. Yes it is easy to say to just walk away or even ignore them but when it is post after post after post of continuous abuse towards that one poster what would any normal sane person actually do?

Even I have been caught up in this "bullying" and called a few names, and given down right verbal abuse, by a couple of them and even been linked to BWFC71/The Righteous One.

I honestly feel sorry BWFC71/The Righteous One because it has been all one sided. Even I have given up commenting on this website due to that small minority who seemed to have taken control of the site and the comments.

That is one thing I do agree with BWFC71/The Righteous One is that this site was better only 6 months ago and now it is overrun with abuse and taunts and bullying and it some those select few against one person!

Something does need sorting out and possibly, again agree with BWFC71, the removal of the thumbs as they do seem to be very disproportionate to the amount of comments and do seemed hell bent themed towards that one poster.

Thats my peice and hope something does get sorted soon.
To be fair to all involved with the so-called argument. I have seen this coming as to what happened last night. BWFC71/The Righteous One has been got at in every thread the person has posted in and by the same people. It was just a matter of time before he/she flipped. Any normal person would have done the same. Yes it is easy to say to just walk away or even ignore them but when it is post after post after post of continuous abuse towards that one poster what would any normal sane person actually do? Even I have been caught up in this "bullying" and called a few names, and given down right verbal abuse, by a couple of them and even been linked to BWFC71/The Righteous One. I honestly feel sorry BWFC71/The Righteous One because it has been all one sided. Even I have given up commenting on this website due to that small minority who seemed to have taken control of the site and the comments. That is one thing I do agree with BWFC71/The Righteous One is that this site was better only 6 months ago and now it is overrun with abuse and taunts and bullying and it some those select few against one person! Something does need sorting out and possibly, again agree with BWFC71, the removal of the thumbs as they do seem to be very disproportionate to the amount of comments and do seemed hell bent themed towards that one poster. Thats my peice and hope something does get sorted soon. Maplins Holiday Camp
  • Score: 4

10:07am Tue 4 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

Frankly if you're a grown adult and the thumb up/down system upsets you to the point of wanting it banned, I'm not sure the internet is for you.
Frankly if you're a grown adult and the thumb up/down system upsets you to the point of wanting it banned, I'm not sure the internet is for you. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 5

11:52am Tue 4 Mar 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.
A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts. Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 1

12:00pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Reebok Rhythm wrote:
A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.
Totally wrecked this thread.
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.[/p][/quote]Totally wrecked this thread. Darren1951
  • Score: 1

12:00pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Reebok Rhythm wrote:
A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.
Totally wrecked this thread.
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.[/p][/quote]Totally wrecked this thread. Darren1951
  • Score: -1

12:32pm Tue 4 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

serious question BWFC...........

Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ????????

reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell..............

its laughable ( your sad little life )

and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ???

your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you
serious question BWFC........... Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ???????? reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell.............. its laughable ( your sad little life ) and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ??? your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you getajob123
  • Score: 3

12:34pm Tue 4 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
Frankly if you're a grown adult and the thumb up/down system upsets you to the point of wanting it banned, I'm not sure the internet is for you.
haha

he lives for thumbs up............. its laughable and pathetic at the same time
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: Frankly if you're a grown adult and the thumb up/down system upsets you to the point of wanting it banned, I'm not sure the internet is for you.[/p][/quote]haha he lives for thumbs up............. its laughable and pathetic at the same time getajob123
  • Score: 2

12:38pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

So Darren, what improvements would you make to the Northern Rail train network, not just in Bolton but across the North West? I was always perplexed by the extortionate pricing of off-peak fares from Bolton to Chorley (return) and how it was cheaper for the same journey to/from Wigan. The main issue is with commuting like cattle, so what do you think can be done about this situation?
So Darren, what improvements would you make to the Northern Rail train network, not just in Bolton but across the North West? I was always perplexed by the extortionate pricing of off-peak fares from Bolton to Chorley (return) and how it was cheaper for the same journey to/from Wigan. The main issue is with commuting like cattle, so what do you think can be done about this situation? Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 0

12:41pm Tue 4 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

getajob123 wrote:
serious question BWFC...........

Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ????????

reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell..............

its laughable ( your sad little life )

and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ???

your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you
Youi have asked that question once before, and I responded

You then contuinued to mock

Therefore I will not answer again. If you cannot remember than it is not may fault that you have short-term memory loss!

And yes you can mock again, because that is all you ever do on thsi website. You have NEVER given a serious comment or partaken in a serious debate without mocking the contributors.

You, like George-X (possibly same poster), are what is wrong with thsi website and your pack-of-wolves mentality to people who want to contribute sensibly! You both have made a mockery opf thsi website and turned it into a mouthpeice of racism, mocking and every bit of negative banter going! (thats is if you can call it banter)
[quote][p][bold]getajob123[/bold] wrote: serious question BWFC........... Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ???????? reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell.............. its laughable ( your sad little life ) and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ??? your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you[/p][/quote]Youi have asked that question once before, and I responded You then contuinued to mock Therefore I will not answer again. If you cannot remember than it is not may fault that you have short-term memory loss! And yes you can mock again, because that is all you ever do on thsi website. You have NEVER given a serious comment or partaken in a serious debate without mocking the contributors. You, like George-X (possibly same poster), are what is wrong with thsi website and your pack-of-wolves mentality to people who want to contribute sensibly! You both have made a mockery opf thsi website and turned it into a mouthpeice of racism, mocking and every bit of negative banter going! (thats is if you can call it banter) The Righteous One
  • Score: -50

12:43pm Tue 4 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

Reebok Rhythm wrote:
So Darren, what improvements would you make to the Northern Rail train network, not just in Bolton but across the North West? I was always perplexed by the extortionate pricing of off-peak fares from Bolton to Chorley (return) and how it was cheaper for the same journey to/from Wigan. The main issue is with commuting like cattle, so what do you think can be done about this situation?
That is an easy question to answer.

Bolton to Wigan is cheaper than Bolton to Chorley as the route does not change counties. The level of subsidy given in Greater Mancherster is far higher than the level given in Lancashire. Therefore the train fares are higher in Lancashire. For instance the 5 minute jounrey between Blackrod (in Greater Manchester) to Adlington (Lancashire) is more expensive than the 5 minute journey between Blackrod and Horwich Parkway - in some instance almost double teh price - and all because of a change in county boundary.
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: So Darren, what improvements would you make to the Northern Rail train network, not just in Bolton but across the North West? I was always perplexed by the extortionate pricing of off-peak fares from Bolton to Chorley (return) and how it was cheaper for the same journey to/from Wigan. The main issue is with commuting like cattle, so what do you think can be done about this situation?[/p][/quote]That is an easy question to answer. Bolton to Wigan is cheaper than Bolton to Chorley as the route does not change counties. The level of subsidy given in Greater Mancherster is far higher than the level given in Lancashire. Therefore the train fares are higher in Lancashire. For instance the 5 minute jounrey between Blackrod (in Greater Manchester) to Adlington (Lancashire) is more expensive than the 5 minute journey between Blackrod and Horwich Parkway - in some instance almost double teh price - and all because of a change in county boundary. The Righteous One
  • Score: -49

12:50pm Tue 4 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

Reebok Rhythm wrote:
A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.
Just because I question people and want proof of what THEY say does not mean I don't have empathy. It means they ought to show why they believe what they write and whether or not their beliefs are based upon urban myths or complete falsehoods given out as propaganda by various parties or groups.

Once a whole picturen is seen then those who do not have an opinion can make a sensible opinion based upon facts from both sides and not lies from just one side!!!

It used to be like that on here until certain cretins such as Thomas222, FoS'1945, GetaJob and a few others started coming on here spouting absolute rubbish and actually driving many posters away with theri continual abuse towards them. So I stood up and put my head above the parapet and for the last 4 months have had continual abuse on every thread I go on. Yes I did go over the top last night but it was either that or leave this website for it to fester to these type of ignorant people who want it for the own mis-guided propaganda! I for one will continual to stand against them and get this paper back to how it was not more than 6 months ago. I have been posting here for over 9 years and it has never been this bad, as it is now, with these cretins!
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.[/p][/quote]Just because I question people and want proof of what THEY say does not mean I don't have empathy. It means they ought to show why they believe what they write and whether or not their beliefs are based upon urban myths or complete falsehoods given out as propaganda by various parties or groups. Once a whole picturen is seen then those who do not have an opinion can make a sensible opinion based upon facts from both sides and not lies from just one side!!! It used to be like that on here until certain cretins such as Thomas222, FoS'1945, GetaJob and a few others started coming on here spouting absolute rubbish and actually driving many posters away with theri continual abuse towards them. So I stood up and put my head above the parapet and for the last 4 months have had continual abuse on every thread I go on. Yes I did go over the top last night but it was either that or leave this website for it to fester to these type of ignorant people who want it for the own mis-guided propaganda! I for one will continual to stand against them and get this paper back to how it was not more than 6 months ago. I have been posting here for over 9 years and it has never been this bad, as it is now, with these cretins! The Righteous One
  • Score: -52

12:51pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Reebok Rhythm wrote:
So Darren, what improvements would you make to the Northern Rail train network, not just in Bolton but across the North West? I was always perplexed by the extortionate pricing of off-peak fares from Bolton to Chorley (return) and how it was cheaper for the same journey to/from Wigan. The main issue is with commuting like cattle, so what do you think can be done about this situation?
That is an easy question to answer.

Bolton to Wigan is cheaper than Bolton to Chorley as the route does not change counties. The level of subsidy given in Greater Mancherster is far higher than the level given in Lancashire. Therefore the train fares are higher in Lancashire. For instance the 5 minute jounrey between Blackrod (in Greater Manchester) to Adlington (Lancashire) is more expensive than the 5 minute journey between Blackrod and Horwich Parkway - in some instance almost double teh price - and all because of a change in county boundary.
Thanks for that. I very rarely commute by train and have no knowledge whatsoever of the jurisdiction and boundaries that subsequently affect the fares. Very Helpful, The Righteous One. Thumbs up!
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: So Darren, what improvements would you make to the Northern Rail train network, not just in Bolton but across the North West? I was always perplexed by the extortionate pricing of off-peak fares from Bolton to Chorley (return) and how it was cheaper for the same journey to/from Wigan. The main issue is with commuting like cattle, so what do you think can be done about this situation?[/p][/quote]That is an easy question to answer. Bolton to Wigan is cheaper than Bolton to Chorley as the route does not change counties. The level of subsidy given in Greater Mancherster is far higher than the level given in Lancashire. Therefore the train fares are higher in Lancashire. For instance the 5 minute jounrey between Blackrod (in Greater Manchester) to Adlington (Lancashire) is more expensive than the 5 minute journey between Blackrod and Horwich Parkway - in some instance almost double teh price - and all because of a change in county boundary.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I very rarely commute by train and have no knowledge whatsoever of the jurisdiction and boundaries that subsequently affect the fares. Very Helpful, The Righteous One. Thumbs up! Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 1

2:32pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Reebok Rhythm wrote:
So Darren, what improvements would you make to the Northern Rail train network, not just in Bolton but across the North West? I was always perplexed by the extortionate pricing of off-peak fares from Bolton to Chorley (return) and how it was cheaper for the same journey to/from Wigan. The main issue is with commuting like cattle, so what do you think can be done about this situation?
The problems with NR (and other rail operating companies) , as far as I can make out, probably all stem from the pig's-ear (or more like pig's a**e) that was created when our, admittedly nowhere near perfect, railway system was privatized. Granted, there has been an unexpectedly large upsurge in passenger numbers in recent years, but the way that things are, and are in other organizations, such as the NHS, there is little or no slack and, hence, no flexibility. To cap it all, have you heard today's announcement, from the DofT, I think? Someone has mooted the idea that the rolling stock shortfall that's about to hit Transpennine can be made up by poaching stock from Northern Rail. Personally, I'm in favour of full and immediate re-nationalization, but there's neither time nor space to debate that fully here.
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: So Darren, what improvements would you make to the Northern Rail train network, not just in Bolton but across the North West? I was always perplexed by the extortionate pricing of off-peak fares from Bolton to Chorley (return) and how it was cheaper for the same journey to/from Wigan. The main issue is with commuting like cattle, so what do you think can be done about this situation?[/p][/quote]The problems with NR (and other rail operating companies) , as far as I can make out, probably all stem from the pig's-ear (or more like pig's a**e) that was created when our, admittedly nowhere near perfect, railway system was privatized. Granted, there has been an unexpectedly large upsurge in passenger numbers in recent years, but the way that things are, and are in other organizations, such as the NHS, there is little or no slack and, hence, no flexibility. To cap it all, have you heard today's announcement, from the DofT, I think? Someone has mooted the idea that the rolling stock shortfall that's about to hit Transpennine can be made up by poaching stock from Northern Rail. Personally, I'm in favour of full and immediate re-nationalization, but there's neither time nor space to debate that fully here. Darren1951
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

Fair play Darren. British Rail seems a life time ago!
Fair play Darren. British Rail seems a life time ago! Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 0

5:59pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

Reebok Rhythm wrote:
A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.
Pseudonyms*
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.[/p][/quote]Pseudonyms* Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 3

7:29pm Tue 4 Mar 14

George X says...

The Righteous One wrote:
getajob123 wrote:
serious question BWFC...........

Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ????????

reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell..............

its laughable ( your sad little life )

and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ???

your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you
Youi have asked that question once before, and I responded

You then contuinued to mock

Therefore I will not answer again. If you cannot remember than it is not may fault that you have short-term memory loss!

And yes you can mock again, because that is all you ever do on thsi website. You have NEVER given a serious comment or partaken in a serious debate without mocking the contributors.

You, like George-X (possibly same poster), are what is wrong with thsi website and your pack-of-wolves mentality to people who want to contribute sensibly! You both have made a mockery opf thsi website and turned it into a mouthpeice of racism, mocking and every bit of negative banter going! (thats is if you can call it banter)
Your'e the only poster on here with more than one username that i know of...
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getajob123[/bold] wrote: serious question BWFC........... Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ???????? reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell.............. its laughable ( your sad little life ) and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ??? your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you[/p][/quote]Youi have asked that question once before, and I responded You then contuinued to mock Therefore I will not answer again. If you cannot remember than it is not may fault that you have short-term memory loss! And yes you can mock again, because that is all you ever do on thsi website. You have NEVER given a serious comment or partaken in a serious debate without mocking the contributors. You, like George-X (possibly same poster), are what is wrong with thsi website and your pack-of-wolves mentality to people who want to contribute sensibly! You both have made a mockery opf thsi website and turned it into a mouthpeice of racism, mocking and every bit of negative banter going! (thats is if you can call it banter)[/p][/quote]Your'e the only poster on here with more than one username that i know of... George X
  • Score: 3

7:33pm Tue 4 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
getajob123 wrote:
serious question BWFC...........

Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ????????

reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell..............

its laughable ( your sad little life )

and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ???

your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you
Youi have asked that question once before, and I responded

You then contuinued to mock

Therefore I will not answer again. If you cannot remember than it is not may fault that you have short-term memory loss!

And yes you can mock again, because that is all you ever do on thsi website. You have NEVER given a serious comment or partaken in a serious debate without mocking the contributors.

You, like George-X (possibly same poster), are what is wrong with thsi website and your pack-of-wolves mentality to people who want to contribute sensibly! You both have made a mockery opf thsi website and turned it into a mouthpeice of racism, mocking and every bit of negative banter going! (thats is if you can call it banter)
Your'e the only poster on here with more than one username that i know of...
Getajob, why have you replied with your other username and not your normal one?
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getajob123[/bold] wrote: serious question BWFC........... Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ???????? reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell.............. its laughable ( your sad little life ) and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ??? your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you[/p][/quote]Youi have asked that question once before, and I responded You then contuinued to mock Therefore I will not answer again. If you cannot remember than it is not may fault that you have short-term memory loss! And yes you can mock again, because that is all you ever do on thsi website. You have NEVER given a serious comment or partaken in a serious debate without mocking the contributors. You, like George-X (possibly same poster), are what is wrong with thsi website and your pack-of-wolves mentality to people who want to contribute sensibly! You both have made a mockery opf thsi website and turned it into a mouthpeice of racism, mocking and every bit of negative banter going! (thats is if you can call it banter)[/p][/quote]Your'e the only poster on here with more than one username that i know of...[/p][/quote]Getajob, why have you replied with your other username and not your normal one? BWFC71
  • Score: -47

12:24am Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

other name ????

haha

you seem to have me confused with someone who is obsessed with this site ( you )

i come on here to laugh at your self combusting comments every now and then because someone told me about you and how laughable your sad little life was and i thought i would have a laugh

its so funny, you seem to think you work for the paper.......

so do you have some kind of substance problem or mental health problems, your comments suggest you do ???

do you realise you are obsessed with this site in a very unhealthy way ???, thats why others laugh at you

why not print out all these comments and take them to your gp and see what they say ???

or take them to a mental health specialist ???

you should ............. seriously...........
.. its creepy how obsessed with this site you are
other name ???? haha you seem to have me confused with someone who is obsessed with this site ( you ) i come on here to laugh at your self combusting comments every now and then because someone told me about you and how laughable your sad little life was and i thought i would have a laugh its so funny, you seem to think you work for the paper....... so do you have some kind of substance problem or mental health problems, your comments suggest you do ??? do you realise you are obsessed with this site in a very unhealthy way ???, thats why others laugh at you why not print out all these comments and take them to your gp and see what they say ??? or take them to a mental health specialist ??? you should ............. seriously........... .. its creepy how obsessed with this site you are getajob123
  • Score: 3

12:39am Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
getajob123 wrote:
serious question BWFC...........

Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ????????

reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell..............

its laughable ( your sad little life )

and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ???

your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you
Youi have asked that question once before, and I responded

You then contuinued to mock

Therefore I will not answer again. If you cannot remember than it is not may fault that you have short-term memory loss!

And yes you can mock again, because that is all you ever do on thsi website. You have NEVER given a serious comment or partaken in a serious debate without mocking the contributors.

You, like George-X (possibly same poster), are what is wrong with thsi website and your pack-of-wolves mentality to people who want to contribute sensibly! You both have made a mockery opf thsi website and turned it into a mouthpeice of racism, mocking and every bit of negative banter going! (thats is if you can call it banter)
This

1st letter - T
2nd letter - H
3rd letter - I
4th letter - S

you keep saying you work at a law firm but never say you are a solicitor

is this because you are the tea boy with learning difficulties ???

or the cleaner ???

seriously you need help ........... mentally and with spelling
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getajob123[/bold] wrote: serious question BWFC........... Do you have learning difficulties, mental health problems or a drug or alcohol problem ???????? reading your posts is like reading the badly spelt ramblings of a moron........ and telling everyone you are a solicitor is a total joke, you cant string a sentance together or spell........ what kind of solicitors is it ???? one that just employs solicitors that cannot spell.............. its laughable ( your sad little life ) and the comment about thumbs down being bulling is ridiculous, are you so thick that you live your live for thumbs up on a internet site ??? your wife must get very bored at night while you are sat on this site rambling on for hours and hours.............. and lets all be honest people are laughing at you not supporting you[/p][/quote]Youi have asked that question once before, and I responded You then contuinued to mock Therefore I will not answer again. If you cannot remember than it is not may fault that you have short-term memory loss! And yes you can mock again, because that is all you ever do on thsi website. You have NEVER given a serious comment or partaken in a serious debate without mocking the contributors. You, like George-X (possibly same poster), are what is wrong with thsi website and your pack-of-wolves mentality to people who want to contribute sensibly! You both have made a mockery opf thsi website and turned it into a mouthpeice of racism, mocking and every bit of negative banter going! (thats is if you can call it banter)[/p][/quote]This 1st letter - T 2nd letter - H 3rd letter - I 4th letter - S you keep saying you work at a law firm but never say you are a solicitor is this because you are the tea boy with learning difficulties ??? or the cleaner ??? seriously you need help ........... mentally and with spelling getajob123
  • Score: 1

8:51am Wed 5 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

Seriously George-X or whatever name you want to use for your next post, you need help.

These comments are not part of an English course or a typing course.

Miastakes are amde and yes repititive mistakes can be made

But you have never commented on a news story and only given verbal abuse top people, such as above.

Yes I work for a law firm, but my typing skills are nothing to do with what I know or can do. Thankfully we have a middle office to do the typing and PC work, my job is to help people within the law.

Also thanksfully we have spellcheckers on the websites and the program that I use for work, whereas thsi website does not have a spellchecker!!!!

Also, when was the last time you saw a lawyer/solicior type in a court room?

Seriously you have no idea of the world or the business world and yet you think you do!!!!!

You have never said what you do! Why is that? Just the same as me as not actually saying what I do in the firm because it is actually NONE OF YOUR OWN BUSINESSS. Suffice to say I do not work in the mddle office or as a tea-boy (as we have a subsidised delicatessen) - but again you don't know that because you don't know the working world or the office I woerk in as it is none of your business! SUffice to say, again, that I have appeared on television with a couple of my clients within the last 12 months, if that is the answer you want!

But I was right you are an ignorant fool who does and contributes nothing to thsi website apart from giving verbal abuse to other posters
Seriously George-X or whatever name you want to use for your next post, you need help. These comments are not part of an English course or a typing course. Miastakes are amde and yes repititive mistakes can be made But you have never commented on a news story and only given verbal abuse top people, such as above. Yes I work for a law firm, but my typing skills are nothing to do with what I know or can do. Thankfully we have a middle office to do the typing and PC work, my job is to help people within the law. Also thanksfully we have spellcheckers on the websites and the program that I use for work, whereas thsi website does not have a spellchecker!!!! Also, when was the last time you saw a lawyer/solicior type in a court room? Seriously you have no idea of the world or the business world and yet you think you do!!!!! You have never said what you do! Why is that? Just the same as me as not actually saying what I do in the firm because it is actually NONE OF YOUR OWN BUSINESSS. Suffice to say I do not work in the mddle office or as a tea-boy (as we have a subsidised delicatessen) - but again you don't know that because you don't know the working world or the office I woerk in as it is none of your business! SUffice to say, again, that I have appeared on television with a couple of my clients within the last 12 months, if that is the answer you want! But I was right you are an ignorant fool who does and contributes nothing to thsi website apart from giving verbal abuse to other posters The Righteous One
  • Score: -3

8:55am Wed 5 Mar 14

The Righteous One says...

getajob123 wrote:
other name ????

haha

you seem to have me confused with someone who is obsessed with this site ( you )

i come on here to laugh at your self combusting comments every now and then because someone told me about you and how laughable your sad little life was and i thought i would have a laugh

its so funny, you seem to think you work for the paper.......

so do you have some kind of substance problem or mental health problems, your comments suggest you do ???

do you realise you are obsessed with this site in a very unhealthy way ???, thats why others laugh at you

why not print out all these comments and take them to your gp and see what they say ???

or take them to a mental health specialist ???

you should ............. seriously...........

.. its creepy how obsessed with this site you are
You talk about me and my bad typing skills.

At least I do not write like a moron who cannot construct sentences.

You and George-X type exactly the same way with incoherent lines, fullstops all over the show and unfinished sentences and you sayu I have mental problems.

Look at yourself fuirst - because 99.9% of the time the people who accuse others of having mental problems are the ones that do and want to hide the fact by accusing others.

I can give you the number of a good couple of psychologists, if you wnat the help, who are very good friends of mine. (and not because I used them but because i went to school with them and stayed friends through university and life)
[quote][p][bold]getajob123[/bold] wrote: other name ???? haha you seem to have me confused with someone who is obsessed with this site ( you ) i come on here to laugh at your self combusting comments every now and then because someone told me about you and how laughable your sad little life was and i thought i would have a laugh its so funny, you seem to think you work for the paper....... so do you have some kind of substance problem or mental health problems, your comments suggest you do ??? do you realise you are obsessed with this site in a very unhealthy way ???, thats why others laugh at you why not print out all these comments and take them to your gp and see what they say ??? or take them to a mental health specialist ??? you should ............. seriously........... .. its creepy how obsessed with this site you are[/p][/quote]You talk about me and my bad typing skills. At least I do not write like a moron who cannot construct sentences. You and George-X type exactly the same way with incoherent lines, fullstops all over the show and unfinished sentences and you sayu I have mental problems. Look at yourself fuirst - because 99.9% of the time the people who accuse others of having mental problems are the ones that do and want to hide the fact by accusing others. I can give you the number of a good couple of psychologists, if you wnat the help, who are very good friends of mine. (and not because I used them but because i went to school with them and stayed friends through university and life) The Righteous One
  • Score: -3

8:59am Wed 5 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Uh-ohhh! Better call in the nursery police - they're at it again!
Uh-ohhh! Better call in the nursery police - they're at it again! Darren1951
  • Score: 6

10:54am Wed 5 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

The Righteous One/BWFC71 - mate, you really need to know when to stop digging and step away from the keyboard. If you really want to make this a better place for discussion, you should leave.
The Righteous One/BWFC71 - mate, you really need to know when to stop digging and step away from the keyboard. If you really want to make this a better place for discussion, you should leave. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 5

9:12pm Wed 5 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
The Righteous One/BWFC71 - mate, you really need to know when to stop digging and step away from the keyboard. If you really want to make this a better place for discussion, you should leave.
Mark - no way am I leaving and letting them disgusting people win and takeover this website for their vile rubbish which they type!!!!

If you hadn't noticed George-X/Getajob/10 other names (they have never given any proof that they are not the same person) is a it again in the college closure thread, but I haven't responded - why? Because I want to keep that filth in one place - ie this thread, until I get verbally abused anywhere else then I will, again, defend myself and defend democracy and the right to express in a place and make sure that this website becomes a place where people will be not afraid to air their views without being bullied by 2 people (and their many usernames).

I will continue to question people's so-called viewpots so that full pictures can be given and that no error can ever be made with the facts and that lies should not overcome the truth!
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: The Righteous One/BWFC71 - mate, you really need to know when to stop digging and step away from the keyboard. If you really want to make this a better place for discussion, you should leave.[/p][/quote]Mark - no way am I leaving and letting them disgusting people win and takeover this website for their vile rubbish which they type!!!! If you hadn't noticed George-X/Getajob/10 other names (they have never given any proof that they are not the same person) is a it again in the college closure thread, but I haven't responded - why? Because I want to keep that filth in one place - ie this thread, until I get verbally abused anywhere else then I will, again, defend myself and defend democracy and the right to express in a place and make sure that this website becomes a place where people will be not afraid to air their views without being bullied by 2 people (and their many usernames). I will continue to question people's so-called viewpots so that full pictures can be given and that no error can ever be made with the facts and that lies should not overcome the truth! BWFC71
  • Score: -13

10:09pm Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
MarkAllRead wrote:
The Righteous One/BWFC71 - mate, you really need to know when to stop digging and step away from the keyboard. If you really want to make this a better place for discussion, you should leave.
Mark - no way am I leaving and letting them disgusting people win and takeover this website for their vile rubbish which they type!!!!

If you hadn't noticed George-X/Getajob/10 other names (they have never given any proof that they are not the same person) is a it again in the college closure thread, but I haven't responded - why? Because I want to keep that filth in one place - ie this thread, until I get verbally abused anywhere else then I will, again, defend myself and defend democracy and the right to express in a place and make sure that this website becomes a place where people will be not afraid to air their views without being bullied by 2 people (and their many usernames).

I will continue to question people's so-called viewpots so that full pictures can be given and that no error can ever be made with the facts and that lies should not overcome the truth!
1st letter - V
2nd letter - I
3rd letter - E
4th letter - W
5th letter - P
6th letter - O
7th letter - I
8th letter - N
9th letter - T
10th letter - S

VIEWPOINTS

not

VIEWPOTS

that was a big one for you tho so keep slogging away at the 3 letter words and once you have mastered 3 letter words then focus on the tricky ones
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: The Righteous One/BWFC71 - mate, you really need to know when to stop digging and step away from the keyboard. If you really want to make this a better place for discussion, you should leave.[/p][/quote]Mark - no way am I leaving and letting them disgusting people win and takeover this website for their vile rubbish which they type!!!! If you hadn't noticed George-X/Getajob/10 other names (they have never given any proof that they are not the same person) is a it again in the college closure thread, but I haven't responded - why? Because I want to keep that filth in one place - ie this thread, until I get verbally abused anywhere else then I will, again, defend myself and defend democracy and the right to express in a place and make sure that this website becomes a place where people will be not afraid to air their views without being bullied by 2 people (and their many usernames). I will continue to question people's so-called viewpots so that full pictures can be given and that no error can ever be made with the facts and that lies should not overcome the truth![/p][/quote]1st letter - V 2nd letter - I 3rd letter - E 4th letter - W 5th letter - P 6th letter - O 7th letter - I 8th letter - N 9th letter - T 10th letter - S VIEWPOINTS not VIEWPOTS that was a big one for you tho so keep slogging away at the 3 letter words and once you have mastered 3 letter words then focus on the tricky ones getajob123
  • Score: 0

10:11pm Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
getajob123 wrote:
other name ????

haha

you seem to have me confused with someone who is obsessed with this site ( you )

i come on here to laugh at your self combusting comments every now and then because someone told me about you and how laughable your sad little life was and i thought i would have a laugh

its so funny, you seem to think you work for the paper.......

so do you have some kind of substance problem or mental health problems, your comments suggest you do ???

do you realise you are obsessed with this site in a very unhealthy way ???, thats why others laugh at you

why not print out all these comments and take them to your gp and see what they say ???

or take them to a mental health specialist ???

you should ............. seriously...........


.. its creepy how obsessed with this site you are
You talk about me and my bad typing skills.

At least I do not write like a moron who cannot construct sentences.

You and George-X type exactly the same way with incoherent lines, fullstops all over the show and unfinished sentences and you sayu I have mental problems.

Look at yourself fuirst - because 99.9% of the time the people who accuse others of having mental problems are the ones that do and want to hide the fact by accusing others.

I can give you the number of a good couple of psychologists, if you wnat the help, who are very good friends of mine. (and not because I used them but because i went to school with them and stayed friends through university and life)
1st letter - W
2nd letter - A
3rd letter - N
4th letter - T

WANT

not wnat

and considering this was included in a ramble about education i really think you need to try harder

once again ironic and funny
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getajob123[/bold] wrote: other name ???? haha you seem to have me confused with someone who is obsessed with this site ( you ) i come on here to laugh at your self combusting comments every now and then because someone told me about you and how laughable your sad little life was and i thought i would have a laugh its so funny, you seem to think you work for the paper....... so do you have some kind of substance problem or mental health problems, your comments suggest you do ??? do you realise you are obsessed with this site in a very unhealthy way ???, thats why others laugh at you why not print out all these comments and take them to your gp and see what they say ??? or take them to a mental health specialist ??? you should ............. seriously........... .. its creepy how obsessed with this site you are[/p][/quote]You talk about me and my bad typing skills. At least I do not write like a moron who cannot construct sentences. You and George-X type exactly the same way with incoherent lines, fullstops all over the show and unfinished sentences and you sayu I have mental problems. Look at yourself fuirst - because 99.9% of the time the people who accuse others of having mental problems are the ones that do and want to hide the fact by accusing others. I can give you the number of a good couple of psychologists, if you wnat the help, who are very good friends of mine. (and not because I used them but because i went to school with them and stayed friends through university and life)[/p][/quote]1st letter - W 2nd letter - A 3rd letter - N 4th letter - T WANT not wnat and considering this was included in a ramble about education i really think you need to try harder once again ironic and funny getajob123
  • Score: 0

10:37pm Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Seriously George-X or whatever name you want to use for your next post, you need help.

These comments are not part of an English course or a typing course.

Miastakes are amde and yes repititive mistakes can be made

But you have never commented on a news story and only given verbal abuse top people, such as above.

Yes I work for a law firm, but my typing skills are nothing to do with what I know or can do. Thankfully we have a middle office to do the typing and PC work, my job is to help people within the law.

Also thanksfully we have spellcheckers on the websites and the program that I use for work, whereas thsi website does not have a spellchecker!!!!

Also, when was the last time you saw a lawyer/solicior type in a court room?

Seriously you have no idea of the world or the business world and yet you think you do!!!!!

You have never said what you do! Why is that? Just the same as me as not actually saying what I do in the firm because it is actually NONE OF YOUR OWN BUSINESSS. Suffice to say I do not work in the mddle office or as a tea-boy (as we have a subsidised delicatessen) - but again you don't know that because you don't know the working world or the office I woerk in as it is none of your business! SUffice to say, again, that I have appeared on television with a couple of my clients within the last 12 months, if that is the answer you want!

But I was right you are an ignorant fool who does and contributes nothing to thsi website apart from giving verbal abuse to other posters
wow

are you drunk or on drugs ????

read that back, its like the badly spelt ramblings of a drug addict
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Seriously George-X or whatever name you want to use for your next post, you need help. These comments are not part of an English course or a typing course. Miastakes are amde and yes repititive mistakes can be made But you have never commented on a news story and only given verbal abuse top people, such as above. Yes I work for a law firm, but my typing skills are nothing to do with what I know or can do. Thankfully we have a middle office to do the typing and PC work, my job is to help people within the law. Also thanksfully we have spellcheckers on the websites and the program that I use for work, whereas thsi website does not have a spellchecker!!!! Also, when was the last time you saw a lawyer/solicior type in a court room? Seriously you have no idea of the world or the business world and yet you think you do!!!!! You have never said what you do! Why is that? Just the same as me as not actually saying what I do in the firm because it is actually NONE OF YOUR OWN BUSINESSS. Suffice to say I do not work in the mddle office or as a tea-boy (as we have a subsidised delicatessen) - but again you don't know that because you don't know the working world or the office I woerk in as it is none of your business! SUffice to say, again, that I have appeared on television with a couple of my clients within the last 12 months, if that is the answer you want! But I was right you are an ignorant fool who does and contributes nothing to thsi website apart from giving verbal abuse to other posters[/p][/quote]wow are you drunk or on drugs ???? read that back, its like the badly spelt ramblings of a drug addict getajob123
  • Score: 0

10:38pm Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

getajob123 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Seriously George-X or whatever name you want to use for your next post, you need help.

These comments are not part of an English course or a typing course.

Miastakes are amde and yes repititive mistakes can be made

But you have never commented on a news story and only given verbal abuse top people, such as above.

Yes I work for a law firm, but my typing skills are nothing to do with what I know or can do. Thankfully we have a middle office to do the typing and PC work, my job is to help people within the law.

Also thanksfully we have spellcheckers on the websites and the program that I use for work, whereas thsi website does not have a spellchecker!!!!

Also, when was the last time you saw a lawyer/solicior type in a court room?

Seriously you have no idea of the world or the business world and yet you think you do!!!!!

You have never said what you do! Why is that? Just the same as me as not actually saying what I do in the firm because it is actually NONE OF YOUR OWN BUSINESSS. Suffice to say I do not work in the mddle office or as a tea-boy (as we have a subsidised delicatessen) - but again you don't know that because you don't know the working world or the office I woerk in as it is none of your business! SUffice to say, again, that I have appeared on television with a couple of my clients within the last 12 months, if that is the answer you want!

But I was right you are an ignorant fool who does and contributes nothing to thsi website apart from giving verbal abuse to other posters
wow

are you drunk or on drugs ????

read that back, its like the badly spelt ramblings of a drug addict
i thought you used that username at work ???

therefore you spell like this during the day

wow........... have you just sniffed glue in the toilets before commencing your cleaning duties ????
[quote][p][bold]getajob123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Seriously George-X or whatever name you want to use for your next post, you need help. These comments are not part of an English course or a typing course. Miastakes are amde and yes repititive mistakes can be made But you have never commented on a news story and only given verbal abuse top people, such as above. Yes I work for a law firm, but my typing skills are nothing to do with what I know or can do. Thankfully we have a middle office to do the typing and PC work, my job is to help people within the law. Also thanksfully we have spellcheckers on the websites and the program that I use for work, whereas thsi website does not have a spellchecker!!!! Also, when was the last time you saw a lawyer/solicior type in a court room? Seriously you have no idea of the world or the business world and yet you think you do!!!!! You have never said what you do! Why is that? Just the same as me as not actually saying what I do in the firm because it is actually NONE OF YOUR OWN BUSINESSS. Suffice to say I do not work in the mddle office or as a tea-boy (as we have a subsidised delicatessen) - but again you don't know that because you don't know the working world or the office I woerk in as it is none of your business! SUffice to say, again, that I have appeared on television with a couple of my clients within the last 12 months, if that is the answer you want! But I was right you are an ignorant fool who does and contributes nothing to thsi website apart from giving verbal abuse to other posters[/p][/quote]wow are you drunk or on drugs ???? read that back, its like the badly spelt ramblings of a drug addict[/p][/quote]i thought you used that username at work ??? therefore you spell like this during the day wow........... have you just sniffed glue in the toilets before commencing your cleaning duties ???? getajob123
  • Score: 0

10:41pm Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

appeared on tv

you have been watching too much judge judy instead of jobseeking my dim little jobseeker

Uk courtrooms do not allow press

do you mean you once were on jeremy kyle ??????
appeared on tv you have been watching too much judge judy instead of jobseeking my dim little jobseeker Uk courtrooms do not allow press do you mean you once were on jeremy kyle ?????? getajob123
  • Score: 0

10:48pm Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

your job is to help people within the law


hahahaha

you are an office assistant !!!! or solicitors assistant

priceless

truly priceless

this gets better and better by the minute
your job is to help people within the law hahahaha you are an office assistant !!!! or solicitors assistant priceless truly priceless this gets better and better by the minute getajob123
  • Score: 1

11:02pm Wed 5 Mar 14

getajob123 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Reebok Rhythm wrote:
A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.
Just because I question people and want proof of what THEY say does not mean I don't have empathy. It means they ought to show why they believe what they write and whether or not their beliefs are based upon urban myths or complete falsehoods given out as propaganda by various parties or groups.

Once a whole picturen is seen then those who do not have an opinion can make a sensible opinion based upon facts from both sides and not lies from just one side!!!

It used to be like that on here until certain cretins such as Thomas222, FoS'1945, GetaJob and a few others started coming on here spouting absolute rubbish and actually driving many posters away with theri continual abuse towards them. So I stood up and put my head above the parapet and for the last 4 months have had continual abuse on every thread I go on. Yes I did go over the top last night but it was either that or leave this website for it to fester to these type of ignorant people who want it for the own mis-guided propaganda! I for one will continual to stand against them and get this paper back to how it was not more than 6 months ago. I have been posting here for over 9 years and it has never been this bad, as it is now, with these cretins!
spoken like a mentally challanged village idiot that thinks he works for the newspaper

also please google propaganda.......... you seem confused again about a really basic word

i presume you mean agenda ????

however the inner mind of a closet moron is beyond my grasp so who knows what you mean once you start hitting the substances at night time hey
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: A message to BWFC71/The Righteous One and the other pseudonmys you may or may not have: I was actually flabbergasted at your outburst and how your self-restraint totally diminished. For someone who is normally cool, calm and collective, this occurence exposed a chink in your usually unpenetrable armor. You definitely need to find common ground with people who post here as you are only serving to exacerbate your increasingly untenable position on the Bolton News forum. I find you to be extremely narcissitic and you are forever talking about your wealth, business acumen and holier-than-thou attitude. You are all text book and lack common sense and empathy towards others' differences and thoughts.[/p][/quote]Just because I question people and want proof of what THEY say does not mean I don't have empathy. It means they ought to show why they believe what they write and whether or not their beliefs are based upon urban myths or complete falsehoods given out as propaganda by various parties or groups. Once a whole picturen is seen then those who do not have an opinion can make a sensible opinion based upon facts from both sides and not lies from just one side!!! It used to be like that on here until certain cretins such as Thomas222, FoS'1945, GetaJob and a few others started coming on here spouting absolute rubbish and actually driving many posters away with theri continual abuse towards them. So I stood up and put my head above the parapet and for the last 4 months have had continual abuse on every thread I go on. Yes I did go over the top last night but it was either that or leave this website for it to fester to these type of ignorant people who want it for the own mis-guided propaganda! I for one will continual to stand against them and get this paper back to how it was not more than 6 months ago. I have been posting here for over 9 years and it has never been this bad, as it is now, with these cretins![/p][/quote]spoken like a mentally challanged village idiot that thinks he works for the newspaper also please google propaganda.......... you seem confused again about a really basic word i presume you mean agenda ???? however the inner mind of a closet moron is beyond my grasp so who knows what you mean once you start hitting the substances at night time hey getajob123
  • Score: 0

12:02pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Pete1602 says...

OMFG Would you lot seriously shut up .... i come here to read the news and occasionally read the comments to see the reaction by locals but lately all i can see is people moaning at one another. If you want to have a moan swap E-Mail address and take it away from here. Over 130 comments so far and theres probably less than 10 that have to do with the topic. same on pretty much every other news story that has the comments enabled.
Get off your soap boxes, read the news, make a valid comment that relates to the article then read another article. Failing that ... TURN OFF YOUR CAPS!!
OMFG Would you lot seriously shut up .... i come here to read the news and occasionally read the comments to see the reaction by locals but lately all i can see is people moaning at one another. If you want to have a moan swap E-Mail address and take it away from here. Over 130 comments so far and theres probably less than 10 that have to do with the topic. same on pretty much every other news story that has the comments enabled. Get off your soap boxes, read the news, make a valid comment that relates to the article then read another article. Failing that ... TURN OFF YOUR CAPS!! Pete1602
  • Score: -9

1:05pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Pete1602 wrote:
OMFG Would you lot seriously shut up .... i come here to read the news and occasionally read the comments to see the reaction by locals but lately all i can see is people moaning at one another. If you want to have a moan swap E-Mail address and take it away from here. Over 130 comments so far and theres probably less than 10 that have to do with the topic. same on pretty much every other news story that has the comments enabled.
Get off your soap boxes, read the news, make a valid comment that relates to the article then read another article. Failing that ... TURN OFF YOUR CAPS!!
It's a pity someone can't turn off their life support!
[quote][p][bold]Pete1602[/bold] wrote: OMFG Would you lot seriously shut up .... i come here to read the news and occasionally read the comments to see the reaction by locals but lately all i can see is people moaning at one another. If you want to have a moan swap E-Mail address and take it away from here. Over 130 comments so far and theres probably less than 10 that have to do with the topic. same on pretty much every other news story that has the comments enabled. Get off your soap boxes, read the news, make a valid comment that relates to the article then read another article. Failing that ... TURN OFF YOUR CAPS!![/p][/quote]It's a pity someone can't turn off their life support! Darren1951
  • Score: 2

5:22pm Thu 6 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Getajob - most apt username ever...

posts at 10.09, 10.11, 10.37, 10.38, 10.41, 10.48, 11.02 - lunch hour in the middle of the morning? Or a break during searching for a job?
And then the ramblings continued on another thread and then an hour later again on another thread and then again on another thread!!!

You moan about my spelling but look at your grammar. There is no spell checker on here, which does help people with dyslexia like myself, but grammar should be second nature - so why do you not have a grasp of it?

Or do you want me to start showing you up again with big words that you do not understand and thus start calling me thick and then run-off to bed?

It would be better if you start to read your own local paper in Nuneaton, rather than a paper that has no bearing with you whatsoever. In other words you are just a troll!
Getajob - most apt username ever... posts at 10.09, 10.11, 10.37, 10.38, 10.41, 10.48, 11.02 - lunch hour in the middle of the morning? Or a break during searching for a job? And then the ramblings continued on another thread and then an hour later again on another thread and then again on another thread!!! You moan about my spelling but look at your grammar. There is no spell checker on here, which does help people with dyslexia like myself, but grammar should be second nature - so why do you not have a grasp of it? Or do you want me to start showing you up again with big words that you do not understand and thus start calling me thick and then run-off to bed? It would be better if you start to read your own local paper in Nuneaton, rather than a paper that has no bearing with you whatsoever. In other words you are just a troll! BWFC71
  • Score: -57

7:39pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC - is someone paying you to behave like this, or do you just get some sort of perverse kick from it? Answer in 4 lines or fewer, if you can.manage it without spouting your usual diarrhoea,
BWFC - is someone paying you to behave like this, or do you just get some sort of perverse kick from it? Answer in 4 lines or fewer, if you can.manage it without spouting your usual diarrhoea, Darren1951
  • Score: 13

9:28pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Jim271 says...

JERRY< JERRY< JERRY
JERRY< JERRY< JERRY Jim271
  • Score: 4

10:02pm Thu 6 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC - is someone paying you to behave like this, or do you just get some sort of perverse kick from it? Answer in 4 lines or fewer, if you can.manage it without spouting your usual diarrhoea,
No
No
and No
Just stating facts and if that takes more than 4 lines, then so be it!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: BWFC - is someone paying you to behave like this, or do you just get some sort of perverse kick from it? Answer in 4 lines or fewer, if you can.manage it without spouting your usual diarrhoea,[/p][/quote]No No and No Just stating facts and if that takes more than 4 lines, then so be it! BWFC71
  • Score: -53

10:03pm Thu 6 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Jim271 wrote:
JERRY&lt; JERRY&lt; JERRY
I thought your show would have been The Jeremy Kyle Show!

Whereas that time of day I am normally at work!
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: JERRY< JERRY< JERRY[/p][/quote]I thought your show would have been The Jeremy Kyle Show! Whereas that time of day I am normally at work! BWFC71
  • Score: -50

12:15am Fri 7 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC - is someone paying you to behave like this, or do you just get some sort of perverse kick from it? Answer in 4 lines or fewer, if you can.manage it without spouting your usual diarrhoea,
No
No
and No
Just stating facts and if that takes more than 4 lines, then so be it!
They used to put people like you in snake pits, in the hope of bringing them to their senses.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: BWFC - is someone paying you to behave like this, or do you just get some sort of perverse kick from it? Answer in 4 lines or fewer, if you can.manage it without spouting your usual diarrhoea,[/p][/quote]No No and No Just stating facts and if that takes more than 4 lines, then so be it![/p][/quote]They used to put people like you in snake pits, in the hope of bringing them to their senses. Darren1951
  • Score: 6

12:22am Fri 7 Mar 14

keenandr says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Jim271 wrote:
JERRY&lt; JERRY&lt; JERRY
I thought your show would have been The Jeremy Kyle Show!

Whereas that time of day I am normally at work!
yes manning the accident claims hotline in the law firm that you sem to fantasise you are a solicitor at ( as well as owning 3 european businesses and knowing 5 languages and wahtever else you fantasise about )

WAKE UP

YOU WORK IN SPINNING FIELDS, YOU ARE A TELEPHONE INTERNET ADVISOR/ YOU ARE NOT A SOLICITOR/YOU DONT OWN 3 BUSINESSES ABROAD/YOU ARE NOT AN EX BANKER/YOU ARE NOT FLUENT IN 5 LANGUAGES/YOU ARE NOT A SUCCESS

this is getting silly, your fantasy life is making you a laughing stock of bolton..............
.. please contact me to get some help, you are how people like raoul moat started ( FANTASIST )

you are scary, you are mentally unwell, you are a wierdo

the sooner the police or the mental health people get a hold of you the better

GET HELP !!!!

ITS NOT THEM !!!!!

ITS YOU !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: JERRY< JERRY< JERRY[/p][/quote]I thought your show would have been The Jeremy Kyle Show! Whereas that time of day I am normally at work![/p][/quote]yes manning the accident claims hotline in the law firm that you sem to fantasise you are a solicitor at ( as well as owning 3 european businesses and knowing 5 languages and wahtever else you fantasise about ) WAKE UP YOU WORK IN SPINNING FIELDS, YOU ARE A TELEPHONE INTERNET ADVISOR/ YOU ARE NOT A SOLICITOR/YOU DONT OWN 3 BUSINESSES ABROAD/YOU ARE NOT AN EX BANKER/YOU ARE NOT FLUENT IN 5 LANGUAGES/YOU ARE NOT A SUCCESS this is getting silly, your fantasy life is making you a laughing stock of bolton.............. .. please contact me to get some help, you are how people like raoul moat started ( FANTASIST ) you are scary, you are mentally unwell, you are a wierdo the sooner the police or the mental health people get a hold of you the better GET HELP !!!! ITS NOT THEM !!!!! ITS YOU !!!!!! keenandr
  • Score: 1

12:25am Fri 7 Mar 14

keenandr says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Getajob - most apt username ever...

posts at 10.09, 10.11, 10.37, 10.38, 10.41, 10.48, 11.02 - lunch hour in the middle of the morning? Or a break during searching for a job?
And then the ramblings continued on another thread and then an hour later again on another thread and then again on another thread!!!

You moan about my spelling but look at your grammar. There is no spell checker on here, which does help people with dyslexia like myself, but grammar should be second nature - so why do you not have a grasp of it?

Or do you want me to start showing you up again with big words that you do not understand and thus start calling me thick and then run-off to bed?

It would be better if you start to read your own local paper in Nuneaton, rather than a paper that has no bearing with you whatsoever. In other words you are just a troll!
also

even i can see you are confusing AM with PM when arguing with yet another person

I have to ask ..... are you a alcoholic ? or a drug addict ?

you cannot even read other posts without sounding like you are living in a alternate world ( one where everyone is on drugs )
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Getajob - most apt username ever... posts at 10.09, 10.11, 10.37, 10.38, 10.41, 10.48, 11.02 - lunch hour in the middle of the morning? Or a break during searching for a job? And then the ramblings continued on another thread and then an hour later again on another thread and then again on another thread!!! You moan about my spelling but look at your grammar. There is no spell checker on here, which does help people with dyslexia like myself, but grammar should be second nature - so why do you not have a grasp of it? Or do you want me to start showing you up again with big words that you do not understand and thus start calling me thick and then run-off to bed? It would be better if you start to read your own local paper in Nuneaton, rather than a paper that has no bearing with you whatsoever. In other words you are just a troll![/p][/quote]also even i can see you are confusing AM with PM when arguing with yet another person I have to ask ..... are you a alcoholic ? or a drug addict ? you cannot even read other posts without sounding like you are living in a alternate world ( one where everyone is on drugs ) keenandr
  • Score: 1

7:43am Fri 7 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

keenandr wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Getajob - most apt username ever...

posts at 10.09, 10.11, 10.37, 10.38, 10.41, 10.48, 11.02 - lunch hour in the middle of the morning? Or a break during searching for a job?
And then the ramblings continued on another thread and then an hour later again on another thread and then again on another thread!!!

You moan about my spelling but look at your grammar. There is no spell checker on here, which does help people with dyslexia like myself, but grammar should be second nature - so why do you not have a grasp of it?

Or do you want me to start showing you up again with big words that you do not understand and thus start calling me thick and then run-off to bed?

It would be better if you start to read your own local paper in Nuneaton, rather than a paper that has no bearing with you whatsoever. In other words you are just a troll!
also

even i can see you are confusing AM with PM when arguing with yet another person

I have to ask ..... are you a alcoholic ? or a drug addict ?

you cannot even read other posts without sounding like you are living in a alternate world ( one where everyone is on drugs )
no confusion whatsoever especially as this site put the time of the comment in 24hours and not 12 hours! Plus the times I put down are directly from the website!

So I see that you are not very observant either!

Therefore I have to ask you, are you a alcoholic ? or a drug addict ?

You have no command of English and worst of all you cannot even tell the time!
[quote][p][bold]keenandr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Getajob - most apt username ever... posts at 10.09, 10.11, 10.37, 10.38, 10.41, 10.48, 11.02 - lunch hour in the middle of the morning? Or a break during searching for a job? And then the ramblings continued on another thread and then an hour later again on another thread and then again on another thread!!! You moan about my spelling but look at your grammar. There is no spell checker on here, which does help people with dyslexia like myself, but grammar should be second nature - so why do you not have a grasp of it? Or do you want me to start showing you up again with big words that you do not understand and thus start calling me thick and then run-off to bed? It would be better if you start to read your own local paper in Nuneaton, rather than a paper that has no bearing with you whatsoever. In other words you are just a troll![/p][/quote]also even i can see you are confusing AM with PM when arguing with yet another person I have to ask ..... are you a alcoholic ? or a drug addict ? you cannot even read other posts without sounding like you are living in a alternate world ( one where everyone is on drugs )[/p][/quote]no confusion whatsoever especially as this site put the time of the comment in 24hours and not 12 hours! Plus the times I put down are directly from the website! So I see that you are not very observant either! Therefore I have to ask you, are you a alcoholic ? or a drug addict ? You have no command of English and worst of all you cannot even tell the time! BWFC71
  • Score: -46

7:52am Fri 7 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. "I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!"

Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself!

I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown.

Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. "I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!" Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself! I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown. Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar? BWFC71
  • Score: -71

8:13am Fri 7 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. &quot;I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!"

Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself!

I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown.

Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
Spot the loony. BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. "I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!" Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself! I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown. Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?[/p][/quote]Spot the loony. BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP! Darren1951
  • Score: -1

8:15am Fri 7 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. &quot;I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!"

Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself!

I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown.

Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
BWFC71 - Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
Have YOU?
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. "I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!" Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself! I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown. Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?[/p][/quote]BWFC71 - Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar? Have YOU? Darren1951
  • Score: 2

11:39am Fri 7 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. &quot;I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!"

Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself!

I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown.

Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
Spot the loony. BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP!
You are the loon!


If you are not bothered about this paper becoming a mouth piece of nothing but vile insults then why to stop someone who is bothered!!!!

As I say I have commented for over 9 years on here, and was still registered during the 8 month comments ban which the site had because of people like those I go against.

Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system!

Therefore I assume you think it would be okay for this website to lose the ability for us to comment, then?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. "I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!" Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself! I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown. Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?[/p][/quote]Spot the loony. BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP![/p][/quote]You are the loon! If you are not bothered about this paper becoming a mouth piece of nothing but vile insults then why to stop someone who is bothered!!!! As I say I have commented for over 9 years on here, and was still registered during the 8 month comments ban which the site had because of people like those I go against. Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system! Therefore I assume you think it would be okay for this website to lose the ability for us to comment, then? BWFC71
  • Score: -49

11:41am Fri 7 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. &quot;I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!"

Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself!

I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown.

Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
BWFC71 - Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
Have YOU?
If you are not bothered about this paper becoming a mouth piece of nothing but vile insults then why to stop someone who is bothered!!!!

As I say I have commented for over 9 years on here, and was still registered during the 8 month comments ban which the site had because of people like those I go against.

Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system!

Therefore I assume you think it would be okay for this website to lose the ability for us to comment, then?

My grammar is good it is my ability to type, and spell (due to dyslexia) that is in question and no I haven't booked a course. There is a huge difference between spelling mistakes and grammar!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. "I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!" Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself! I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown. Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?[/p][/quote]BWFC71 - Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar? Have YOU?[/p][/quote]If you are not bothered about this paper becoming a mouth piece of nothing but vile insults then why to stop someone who is bothered!!!! As I say I have commented for over 9 years on here, and was still registered during the 8 month comments ban which the site had because of people like those I go against. Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system! Therefore I assume you think it would be okay for this website to lose the ability for us to comment, then? My grammar is good it is my ability to type, and spell (due to dyslexia) that is in question and no I haven't booked a course. There is a huge difference between spelling mistakes and grammar! BWFC71
  • Score: -65

12:06pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. &quot;I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!"

Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself!

I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown.

Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
BWFC71 - Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?
Have YOU?
If you are not bothered about this paper becoming a mouth piece of nothing but vile insults then why to stop someone who is bothered!!!!

As I say I have commented for over 9 years on here, and was still registered during the 8 month comments ban which the site had because of people like those I go against.

Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system!

Therefore I assume you think it would be okay for this website to lose the ability for us to comment, then?

My grammar is good it is my ability to type, and spell (due to dyslexia) that is in question and no I haven't booked a course. There is a huge difference between spelling mistakes and grammar!
BWFC71 - firstly, please note that I'm not following your ridiculous example by endlessly repeating everyone else's posts. I just wanted to point out that you wouldn't do very well on "Just a Minute" with all your repetitions and deviations.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: So how many posts are you going to use this time to waste webspace of the website and just because you think you are better - when in fact you are a person in need of an argument - I bet you are one of those people that says. "I will not go to bed someone on the internet is wrong and I want to wind him up!" Have you read any of those books I recommended to you about psychology as it seems you haven't leaned anything and you still ignorant of the facts about yourself! I look forward to seeing the next 5 posts from you (yes 1 of my posts equates to 5 of yours) and at least my are constructed in true English grammar, even if the spelling has a lot to be desired. But at least my posts are readable, unlike the mess you create. But there again I just see the posts and not read them because you are so boring with your holier than though attitude - remember only clowns are perfect and it seems you want to be a clown. Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar?[/p][/quote]BWFC71 - Have you book a night-school course, yet, to learn English grammar? Have YOU?[/p][/quote]If you are not bothered about this paper becoming a mouth piece of nothing but vile insults then why to stop someone who is bothered!!!! As I say I have commented for over 9 years on here, and was still registered during the 8 month comments ban which the site had because of people like those I go against. Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system! Therefore I assume you think it would be okay for this website to lose the ability for us to comment, then? My grammar is good it is my ability to type, and spell (due to dyslexia) that is in question and no I haven't booked a course. There is a huge difference between spelling mistakes and grammar![/p][/quote]BWFC71 - firstly, please note that I'm not following your ridiculous example by endlessly repeating everyone else's posts. I just wanted to point out that you wouldn't do very well on "Just a Minute" with all your repetitions and deviations. Darren1951
  • Score: 2

12:16pm Fri 7 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

BWFC71 Says... "Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system!"

And in doing so you both post and generate the very stuff you claim to be rallying against. How can you not see this? If you don't want comments to be stopped again, can I suggest that you stop your off-topic and meta-comments, stop with the little squabbles and personal insults and fights, stop using all your current logins and just create a brand new one, fresh start, and stay on topic. Essentially, just grow up.
BWFC71 Says... "Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system!" And in doing so you both post and generate the very stuff you claim to be rallying against. How can you not see this? If you don't want comments to be stopped again, can I suggest that you stop your off-topic and meta-comments, stop with the little squabbles and personal insults and fights, stop using all your current logins and just create a brand new one, fresh start, and stay on topic. Essentially, just grow up. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 8

12:19pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Oops!! Sorry for that last "quote" folks - hoisted by my own petard, I think!
Oops!! Sorry for that last "quote" folks - hoisted by my own petard, I think! Darren1951
  • Score: 1

1:10pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Replytohatersandscum says...

thomas222 wrote:
Perhaps the BN could also do a campaign about the bad service &amp; danger to life with battered old cars people who cant speak english &amp; dont know where they are going on our Taxi services.
how about a campaign agaist scum trolls like you who just hate asians and comments on anything
go on jog on to the dole office and then the pub you scum
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the BN could also do a campaign about the bad service & danger to life with battered old cars people who cant speak english & dont know where they are going on our Taxi services.[/p][/quote]how about a campaign agaist scum trolls like you who just hate asians and comments on anything go on jog on to the dole office and then the pub you scum Replytohatersandscum
  • Score: -21

1:21pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Jackael says...

Replytohatersandscum wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Perhaps the BN could also do a campaign about the bad service &amp; danger to life with battered old cars people who cant speak english &amp; dont know where they are going on our Taxi services.
how about a campaign agaist scum trolls like you who just hate asians and comments on anything
go on jog on to the dole office and then the pub you scum
If you want to see scum have a look in the mirror...
[quote][p][bold]Replytohatersandscum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the BN could also do a campaign about the bad service & danger to life with battered old cars people who cant speak english & dont know where they are going on our Taxi services.[/p][/quote]how about a campaign agaist scum trolls like you who just hate asians and comments on anything go on jog on to the dole office and then the pub you scum[/p][/quote]If you want to see scum have a look in the mirror... Jackael
  • Score: 5

1:25pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Sorry folks, did I miss hearing the kids' playtime bell?
Sorry folks, did I miss hearing the kids' playtime bell? Darren1951
  • Score: -1

2:07pm Fri 7 Mar 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

BWFC71 for Prime Minister!
BWFC71 for Prime Minister! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: -1

4:11pm Fri 7 Mar 14

StartMeUp says...

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? StartMeUp
  • Score: 0

6:45pm Fri 7 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
BWFC71 Says... &quot;Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system!"

And in doing so you both post and generate the very stuff you claim to be rallying against. How can you not see this? If you don't want comments to be stopped again, can I suggest that you stop your off-topic and meta-comments, stop with the little squabbles and personal insults and fights, stop using all your current logins and just create a brand new one, fresh start, and stay on topic. Essentially, just grow up.
I have 2 logins - top believing the trolls who say I have more. I have given reasons as to why I have 2 logins!! This current laptop I am using (my personal one) logs me straight on via my Facebook profile whilst my other laptop which has websense (which blocks FB) and as such have to log on via email - the two are NOT compatible!!! Hence two logins! My mobile uses my facebook login and my tablet uses my facebook login!!! Therefore you will see this username more than my other one - and lets not forget I do not reply to myself or any other tricks which the trolls say I do - you can look through the history of my usernames! Plus one cannot close a username and once an email address is used that's it I cannot use another email address! And as my email address is linked to TRO I cannot create a new profile and what would be the point of creating a new email just to create a new profile???
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: BWFC71 Says... "Do I want this website to stop the comments again? No I don't that's why I fiercely go against those who abuse the system!" And in doing so you both post and generate the very stuff you claim to be rallying against. How can you not see this? If you don't want comments to be stopped again, can I suggest that you stop your off-topic and meta-comments, stop with the little squabbles and personal insults and fights, stop using all your current logins and just create a brand new one, fresh start, and stay on topic. Essentially, just grow up.[/p][/quote]I have 2 logins - top believing the trolls who say I have more. I have given reasons as to why I have 2 logins!! This current laptop I am using (my personal one) logs me straight on via my Facebook profile whilst my other laptop which has websense (which blocks FB) and as such have to log on via email - the two are NOT compatible!!! Hence two logins! My mobile uses my facebook login and my tablet uses my facebook login!!! Therefore you will see this username more than my other one - and lets not forget I do not reply to myself or any other tricks which the trolls say I do - you can look through the history of my usernames! Plus one cannot close a username and once an email address is used that's it I cannot use another email address! And as my email address is linked to TRO I cannot create a new profile and what would be the point of creating a new email just to create a new profile??? BWFC71
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10:14am Sat 8 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

I didn't say you had more than 2 logins, I just suggested that you stopped using them and also that you stop ruining the comments sections.
I didn't say you had more than 2 logins, I just suggested that you stopped using them and also that you stop ruining the comments sections. MarkAllRead
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11:04am Sat 8 Mar 14

Jackael says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
I didn't say you had more than 2 logins, I just suggested that you stopped using them and also that you stop ruining the comments sections.
Hear hear, totally agree
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: I didn't say you had more than 2 logins, I just suggested that you stopped using them and also that you stop ruining the comments sections.[/p][/quote]Hear hear, totally agree Jackael
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5:13pm Tue 18 Mar 14

katiwils says...

Hi,

I'm looking for daily commuters who use this line (Blackpool - Manchester) to share their stories with me for a new Channel 5 documentary. You can board the train anywhere between these stations or use the line from start to finish!

Please e-mail me at: roadsandcommutes@stv
.tv and tell us more!

Thanks very much,
Kate
Hi, I'm looking for daily commuters who use this line (Blackpool - Manchester) to share their stories with me for a new Channel 5 documentary. You can board the train anywhere between these stations or use the line from start to finish! Please e-mail me at: roadsandcommutes@stv .tv and tell us more! Thanks very much, Kate katiwils
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6:23pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

katiwils wrote:
Hi,

I'm looking for daily commuters who use this line (Blackpool - Manchester) to share their stories with me for a new Channel 5 documentary. You can board the train anywhere between these stations or use the line from start to finish!

Please e-mail me at: roadsandcommutes@stv

.tv and tell us more!

Thanks very much,
Kate
Why don't you include the Clitheroe/Blackburn-
Manchester route too? Those trains, which run via Bolton, are sometimes full when leaving Blackburn! There's also the Wigan-Manchester line.
[quote][p][bold]katiwils[/bold] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for daily commuters who use this line (Blackpool - Manchester) to share their stories with me for a new Channel 5 documentary. You can board the train anywhere between these stations or use the line from start to finish! Please e-mail me at: roadsandcommutes@stv .tv and tell us more! Thanks very much, Kate[/p][/quote]Why don't you include the Clitheroe/Blackburn- Manchester route too? Those trains, which run via Bolton, are sometimes full when leaving Blackburn! There's also the Wigan-Manchester line. Darren1951
  • Score: 1

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