Police and fire service's unique driving safety scheme with Bolton mosques after St Helens Road horror crash

CRASH SCENE: St Helens Road, Daubhill

CRASH SCENE: St Helens Road, Daubhill

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A CAMPAIGN to tackle racing and irresponsible driving on Bolton’s roads is being launched after a number of crashes which left people dead or seriously injured.

The fire service, police, Bolton Council and Bolton Council of Mosques have teamed up to run the pilot, believed to be the first of its kind, in the run up to summer.

The campaign was prompted by the jailing of two “racing” drivers, who sped at up to 80mph in St Helens Road, Daubhill, before crashing and leaving a 12-year-old boy with “life-changing” injuries. The crash, last July, left 11 people injured in total.

And it comes just days after Judge Timothy Stead highlighted the number of fatal crashes in Bolton after three drivers were sentenced in four days.

As part of the campaign, a DVD will be produced about the Daubhill incident, and the impact it had on the lives of those involved, as well as the local community, and emergency services who attended.

Events will be held at five mosques from today, to raise awareness of the dangers of racing and anti-social driving, by BCoM representatives, police officers and firefighters.

Bolton borough fire service manager Ian Bailey said: “We have identified that some young Asian males tend to use some of their disposable income on buying a nice car and we are just trying to make them aware of what the consequences can be if they drive these vehicles in an irresponsible manner.

“I would like to take this opportunity to thank the mosques for allowing us to use them as a focal point for what we think is a really important safety message.”


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There will be a driving simulator, and police and fire officers will be on hand to give information and advice.

Chairman of BCoM, Dr Kamran Khan said: “If BCoM can contribute towards preventing an issue that’s become prevalent across Bolton by engaging with local communities, as well as local authorities, it gives us the opportunity to provide a safer environment for residents in Bolton.

“If we can save lives as a result of our contribution to the campaign, then it makes all the effort completely worthwhile.”

A public event to promote the campaign will be staged later this year.

Bolton’s Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Lloyd said: “Road safety in Bolton is an important issue for local people, and is everyone’s responsibility. The safer driving campaign is an excellent way to raise awareness of the risks associated with dangerous driving in light of a series of coll isions in recent months.”

Councillor Nick Peel, cabinet member for environment, neighbourhoods and regulation, said: “Road safety campaigns are vital to educate people about the dangers of speeding, and other unsafe driving practices, and the serious consequences which can result.

“As part of this campaign, our neighbourhood management teams are working closely in partnership with the police, the fire service, and BCom, to hopefully prevent accidents happening in the future.”

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10:35am Fri 21 Feb 14

Jim271 says...

So only Asian males drive their cars fast then????

And so it begins,,,,
So only Asian males drive their cars fast then???? And so it begins,,,, Jim271
  • Score: -29

10:45am Fri 21 Feb 14

Chrome1 says...

I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.
I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents. Chrome1
  • Score: -36

11:35am Fri 21 Feb 14

Gaz1262 says...

Fact. 3 years ago Bolton council employed 5 Road safety staff who covered all the schools in the borough. Educating children in the basics. They also worked very closely with the emergency services raising awareness and campaigning to prevent accidents like this. They now have 1. Is it any wonder?
Fact. 3 years ago Bolton council employed 5 Road safety staff who covered all the schools in the borough. Educating children in the basics. They also worked very closely with the emergency services raising awareness and campaigning to prevent accidents like this. They now have 1. Is it any wonder? Gaz1262
  • Score: 18

11:39am Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered.
There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered. thomas222
  • Score: 47

12:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Jim271 says...

"There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered."

Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?
"There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore? Jim271
  • Score: -29

12:10pm Fri 21 Feb 14

oftbewildered2 says...

Jim271 wrote:
So only Asian males drive their cars fast then????

And so it begins,,,,
it does say that a public campaign to raise awareness will be staged later in the year - that will be aimed at everyone I presume
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: So only Asian males drive their cars fast then???? And so it begins,,,,[/p][/quote]it does say that a public campaign to raise awareness will be staged later in the year - that will be aimed at everyone I presume oftbewildered2
  • Score: 13

12:42pm Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

Jim271 wrote:
"There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?
There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: "There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?[/p][/quote]There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner. thomas222
  • Score: 29

12:45pm Fri 21 Feb 14

cliff4treasurer says...

Pity some people keep there eyes closed to the writing between the lines?
Pity some people keep there eyes closed to the writing between the lines? cliff4treasurer
  • Score: -15

12:49pm Fri 21 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote:
"There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?
There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.
But you did put a racist slant on what you said!!!

What about teh bad driving north of Egerton which has led to many deaths - and that is predominantly white Christian people, or what about Scout Road or Belmont Road - again predominantly white Christian drivers - or even the croner on teh main road to Ramsbottom from Harwood (where Boltom Blackburn and Bury boundary is - again mainly white Christian drivers, or what about teh more recent accident on St Peters Way/A666 by-pass - again white Christian driver - or what about those that race each along Crompton Way - predominantly white Christian drivers......
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: "There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?[/p][/quote]There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.[/p][/quote]But you did put a racist slant on what you said!!! What about teh bad driving north of Egerton which has led to many deaths - and that is predominantly white Christian people, or what about Scout Road or Belmont Road - again predominantly white Christian drivers - or even the croner on teh main road to Ramsbottom from Harwood (where Boltom Blackburn and Bury boundary is - again mainly white Christian drivers, or what about teh more recent accident on St Peters Way/A666 by-pass - again white Christian driver - or what about those that race each along Crompton Way - predominantly white Christian drivers...... The Righteous One
  • Score: -61

12:51pm Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

Chrome1 wrote:
I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.
The statistics the Police are going off are fact not fiction as your comments are.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.[/p][/quote]The statistics the Police are going off are fact not fiction as your comments are. thomas222
  • Score: 28

12:54pm Fri 21 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.
The statistics the Police are going off are fact not fiction as your comments are.
What it is showing that want to be seen to be doing something - that is not based on fact but based upon popularist attitude to their job. If they didn't do anything then its seen as the police are too scared, when in reality teh police do not have enough money to do the job effectively for the WHOLE of the community, which would also raise their popularity!!!!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.[/p][/quote]The statistics the Police are going off are fact not fiction as your comments are.[/p][/quote]What it is showing that want to be seen to be doing something - that is not based on fact but based upon popularist attitude to their job. If they didn't do anything then its seen as the police are too scared, when in reality teh police do not have enough money to do the job effectively for the WHOLE of the community, which would also raise their popularity!!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: -59

12:55pm Fri 21 Feb 14

boltonnut says...

Look after the Muslims,sod the Christians is what they mosque be saying.According to the headlines.
Look after the Muslims,sod the Christians is what they mosque be saying.According to the headlines. boltonnut
  • Score: 9

12:59pm Fri 21 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith???

Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!!
Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith??? Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: -65

1:08pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Rememberscarborough says...

It's clear that there's a problem with the driving of a certain part of our society and the authorities are addressing it as they should.

For others to say "what about them" smacks of the sort of thing kids come out with in the playground when they've been caught being naughty....
It's clear that there's a problem with the driving of a certain part of our society and the authorities are addressing it as they should. For others to say "what about them" smacks of the sort of thing kids come out with in the playground when they've been caught being naughty.... Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 23

1:30pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Old Boltonian says...

I think religion is nothing to do with it. The sort of idiots we all see driving at speed around Bolton in flashy expensive cars probably are the least likely to attend the mosques anyway. Selfish idiots have no particular colour or religion.
I think religion is nothing to do with it. The sort of idiots we all see driving at speed around Bolton in flashy expensive cars probably are the least likely to attend the mosques anyway. Selfish idiots have no particular colour or religion. Old Boltonian
  • Score: 20

1:36pm Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote: "There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?
There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.
But you did put a racist slant on what you said!!! What about teh bad driving north of Egerton which has led to many deaths - and that is predominantly white Christian people, or what about Scout Road or Belmont Road - again predominantly white Christian drivers - or even the croner on teh main road to Ramsbottom from Harwood (where Boltom Blackburn and Bury boundary is - again mainly white Christian drivers, or what about teh more recent accident on St Peters Way/A666 by-pass - again white Christian driver - or what about those that race each along Crompton Way - predominantly white Christian drivers......
Look at the stats and look at % of population. There are issues with bad driving with Muslim youth as shown by Blackburn council who paid for 18-25 yr old get free lessons by bsm as they were concerned with the statistics etc. It didnt include girls or other faiths though & its stopped now as it came out in the public domain & the general taxpayers didnt like it.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: "There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?[/p][/quote]There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.[/p][/quote]But you did put a racist slant on what you said!!! What about teh bad driving north of Egerton which has led to many deaths - and that is predominantly white Christian people, or what about Scout Road or Belmont Road - again predominantly white Christian drivers - or even the croner on teh main road to Ramsbottom from Harwood (where Boltom Blackburn and Bury boundary is - again mainly white Christian drivers, or what about teh more recent accident on St Peters Way/A666 by-pass - again white Christian driver - or what about those that race each along Crompton Way - predominantly white Christian drivers......[/p][/quote]Look at the stats and look at % of population. There are issues with bad driving with Muslim youth as shown by Blackburn council who paid for 18-25 yr old get free lessons by bsm as they were concerned with the statistics etc. It didnt include girls or other faiths though & its stopped now as it came out in the public domain & the general taxpayers didnt like it. thomas222
  • Score: 64

1:48pm Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

Old Boltonian wrote:
I think religion is nothing to do with it. The sort of idiots we all see driving at speed around Bolton in flashy expensive cars probably are the least likely to attend the mosques anyway. Selfish idiots have no particular colour or religion.
Your quite correct it has nothing to do with Religion its to do with some parts of the community ( Muslim but different Nationality,s who are Muslim ) not being responsible or caring about others safety as one should when driving. If one does not confront and admit there is a problem you will never solve that problem.
[quote][p][bold]Old Boltonian[/bold] wrote: I think religion is nothing to do with it. The sort of idiots we all see driving at speed around Bolton in flashy expensive cars probably are the least likely to attend the mosques anyway. Selfish idiots have no particular colour or religion.[/p][/quote]Your quite correct it has nothing to do with Religion its to do with some parts of the community ( Muslim but different Nationality,s who are Muslim ) not being responsible or caring about others safety as one should when driving. If one does not confront and admit there is a problem you will never solve that problem. thomas222
  • Score: 13

2:08pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Wolfie190 says...

Beware of Pakistanis in vauxhall astra and vectra hire cars and the other cars they use are like pool cars owned by some uncle or other. Thats the reality.
Beware of Pakistanis in vauxhall astra and vectra hire cars and the other cars they use are like pool cars owned by some uncle or other. Thats the reality. Wolfie190
  • Score: 72

2:09pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

The integration factor is good and it is the only way a diverse society can co-exist but you can't legislate for reckless driving. Education is also good but some of the most manipulative and evil people on the earth are highly educated and choose not to conform to what we deem to be a socially acceptable behaviour model (ideology).

thomas222, some decent posts today pal, keep up the good work.
The integration factor is good and it is the only way a diverse society can co-exist but you can't legislate for reckless driving. Education is also good but some of the most manipulative and evil people on the earth are highly educated and choose not to conform to what we deem to be a socially acceptable behaviour model (ideology). thomas222, some decent posts today pal, keep up the good work. Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 5

2:23pm Fri 21 Feb 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

They need to sort out the Asian drug dealers who are rife in this area!
They need to sort out the Asian drug dealers who are rife in this area! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 37

3:07pm Fri 21 Feb 14

VIGILANTE VIC says...

THOSE OF US WHO LIVE AROUND DAUBHILL CAN HONESTLY SAY IT IS MAINLY AN ASIAN PROBLEM AS IT IS PREDOMINANTLY ASIAN POPULATED NOW ROUND HERE... ALL THESE IDIOTS RACING DOWN DAUBHILL OR DEANE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE OR PROBABLY DON'T EVEN ATTEND A MOSQUE. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY HIRE THESE HIGH PERFORMANCE CARS FROM PLACES AROUND HERE HOW MANY HAVE GENUINE DOCUMENTS OF PROOF OF WHO THEY ARE OR EVEN HAVE A GENUINE DRIVING LICENSE... ON A DIFFERENT MATTER LETS SORT OUT THE ASIAN DRUG DEALERS ROUND HERE AS WELL WHILE THEY ARE AT IT TRYING TO TEACH A NEW ROAD SAFETY SCHEME, ( MAYBE GIVE THEIR CARS A QUICK SEARCH) LOL :-) BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT ALLOWED AS IT MIGHT BE SEEN AS RACIST, THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE
THOSE OF US WHO LIVE AROUND DAUBHILL CAN HONESTLY SAY IT IS MAINLY AN ASIAN PROBLEM AS IT IS PREDOMINANTLY ASIAN POPULATED NOW ROUND HERE... ALL THESE IDIOTS RACING DOWN DAUBHILL OR DEANE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE OR PROBABLY DON'T EVEN ATTEND A MOSQUE. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY HIRE THESE HIGH PERFORMANCE CARS FROM PLACES AROUND HERE HOW MANY HAVE GENUINE DOCUMENTS OF PROOF OF WHO THEY ARE OR EVEN HAVE A GENUINE DRIVING LICENSE... ON A DIFFERENT MATTER LETS SORT OUT THE ASIAN DRUG DEALERS ROUND HERE AS WELL WHILE THEY ARE AT IT TRYING TO TEACH A NEW ROAD SAFETY SCHEME, ( MAYBE GIVE THEIR CARS A QUICK SEARCH) LOL :-) BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT ALLOWED AS IT MIGHT BE SEEN AS RACIST, THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE VIGILANTE VIC
  • Score: 26

3:14pm Fri 21 Feb 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

VIGILANTE VIC wrote:
THOSE OF US WHO LIVE AROUND DAUBHILL CAN HONESTLY SAY IT IS MAINLY AN ASIAN PROBLEM AS IT IS PREDOMINANTLY ASIAN POPULATED NOW ROUND HERE... ALL THESE IDIOTS RACING DOWN DAUBHILL OR DEANE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE OR PROBABLY DON'T EVEN ATTEND A MOSQUE. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY HIRE THESE HIGH PERFORMANCE CARS FROM PLACES AROUND HERE HOW MANY HAVE GENUINE DOCUMENTS OF PROOF OF WHO THEY ARE OR EVEN HAVE A GENUINE DRIVING LICENSE... ON A DIFFERENT MATTER LETS SORT OUT THE ASIAN DRUG DEALERS ROUND HERE AS WELL WHILE THEY ARE AT IT TRYING TO TEACH A NEW ROAD SAFETY SCHEME, ( MAYBE GIVE THEIR CARS A QUICK SEARCH) LOL :-) BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT ALLOWED AS IT MIGHT BE SEEN AS RACIST, THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE
Yeah it's rife around here, they've started dropping off on my street now. Something that I will not tolerate!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]VIGILANTE VIC[/bold] wrote: THOSE OF US WHO LIVE AROUND DAUBHILL CAN HONESTLY SAY IT IS MAINLY AN ASIAN PROBLEM AS IT IS PREDOMINANTLY ASIAN POPULATED NOW ROUND HERE... ALL THESE IDIOTS RACING DOWN DAUBHILL OR DEANE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE OR PROBABLY DON'T EVEN ATTEND A MOSQUE. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY HIRE THESE HIGH PERFORMANCE CARS FROM PLACES AROUND HERE HOW MANY HAVE GENUINE DOCUMENTS OF PROOF OF WHO THEY ARE OR EVEN HAVE A GENUINE DRIVING LICENSE... ON A DIFFERENT MATTER LETS SORT OUT THE ASIAN DRUG DEALERS ROUND HERE AS WELL WHILE THEY ARE AT IT TRYING TO TEACH A NEW ROAD SAFETY SCHEME, ( MAYBE GIVE THEIR CARS A QUICK SEARCH) LOL :-) BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT ALLOWED AS IT MIGHT BE SEEN AS RACIST, THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE[/p][/quote]Yeah it's rife around here, they've started dropping off on my street now. Something that I will not tolerate!!!!!!!!! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 23

5:39pm Fri 21 Feb 14

waterbottle says...

Chrome1 wrote:
I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.
No churches are open these days so cant do any awareness courses there
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.[/p][/quote]No churches are open these days so cant do any awareness courses there waterbottle
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Fri 21 Feb 14

bwfc58 says...

It will not be long now for all us English, BRITISH, people to Vote for UKIP in the next local and National Elections because at long long last we are all waking up and have had enough of the way our government which ever party as been so called elected to run our once great country are still bending over backwards to the ASIAN and IMMIGRANT Population and I believe that only UKIP will put this once great country back to were it use to be now most of you will agree with me and only a few will not agree with me but the few that do not I could not care less
It will not be long now for all us English, BRITISH, people to Vote for UKIP in the next local and National Elections because at long long last we are all waking up and have had enough of the way our government which ever party as been so called elected to run our once great country are still bending over backwards to the ASIAN and IMMIGRANT Population and I believe that only UKIP will put this once great country back to were it use to be now most of you will agree with me and only a few will not agree with me but the few that do not I could not care less bwfc58
  • Score: 50

6:01pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Sickandtiredoffit says...

i for one would not mind being stopped for my driving licence and insurance status to be checked against my id far too many people in bolton driving around on relatives insurance and cars you know would nor be covered you can tell because the driving is utter sh1t !! road manners the same i would start with the wrecked old private hire cars then work up
i for one would not mind being stopped for my driving licence and insurance status to be checked against my id far too many people in bolton driving around on relatives insurance and cars you know would nor be covered you can tell because the driving is utter sh1t !! road manners the same i would start with the wrecked old private hire cars then work up Sickandtiredoffit
  • Score: 82

6:23pm Fri 21 Feb 14

p.rhanna says...

Blackburn Road is like whacky races......!!
Outside the mosque at kicking out time is like death race 2000
How some people get insurance is astonishing!!!!!
Blackburn Road is like whacky races......!! Outside the mosque at kicking out time is like death race 2000 How some people get insurance is astonishing!!!!! p.rhanna
  • Score: 15

6:41pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Beyond News Forum says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith???

Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!!
Can you tell me what a white Christian driver looks like? Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic - they are all in a minority now. Religion is sliding backwards - so why make this about religion and driving?

What you will find is people testify to being of a certain religion, yet they do not practice their religion correctly, go to church Synagog or Mosque - they drink, smoke, wear makeup, sketchy clothing and make absurd remarks such as I am a good Christian, Muslim, Jew when arrested.

This isn't about religion, it is about road safety, it is not about UKIP, it is about awareness and the ability to function proper in a car - which incidentally is a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands.

Now I would suggest that this safety campaign reaching out to Mosques means that the Muslim community have acknowledged a problem but the 12 year old's and Alzheimer's brigade here can only judge things by virtue of their IQ's - we should forgive them.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith??? Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!![/p][/quote]Can you tell me what a white Christian driver looks like? Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic - they are all in a minority now. Religion is sliding backwards - so why make this about religion and driving? What you will find is people testify to being of a certain religion, yet they do not practice their religion correctly, go to church Synagog or Mosque - they drink, smoke, wear makeup, sketchy clothing and make absurd remarks such as I am a good Christian, Muslim, Jew when arrested. This isn't about religion, it is about road safety, it is not about UKIP, it is about awareness and the ability to function proper in a car - which incidentally is a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands. Now I would suggest that this safety campaign reaching out to Mosques means that the Muslim community have acknowledged a problem but the 12 year old's and Alzheimer's brigade here can only judge things by virtue of their IQ's - we should forgive them. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 7

6:56pm Fri 21 Feb 14

always lancastrian says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote:
"There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?
There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.
But you did put a racist slant on what you said!!!

What about teh bad driving north of Egerton which has led to many deaths - and that is predominantly white Christian people, or what about Scout Road or Belmont Road - again predominantly white Christian drivers - or even the croner on teh main road to Ramsbottom from Harwood (where Boltom Blackburn and Bury boundary is - again mainly white Christian drivers, or what about teh more recent accident on St Peters Way/A666 by-pass - again white Christian driver - or what about those that race each along Crompton Way - predominantly white Christian drivers......
Why do you assume that all whites must be Christian?
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: "There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?[/p][/quote]There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.[/p][/quote]But you did put a racist slant on what you said!!! What about teh bad driving north of Egerton which has led to many deaths - and that is predominantly white Christian people, or what about Scout Road or Belmont Road - again predominantly white Christian drivers - or even the croner on teh main road to Ramsbottom from Harwood (where Boltom Blackburn and Bury boundary is - again mainly white Christian drivers, or what about teh more recent accident on St Peters Way/A666 by-pass - again white Christian driver - or what about those that race each along Crompton Way - predominantly white Christian drivers......[/p][/quote]Why do you assume that all whites must be Christian? always lancastrian
  • Score: 38

7:51pm Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

always lancastrian wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote: "There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?
There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.
But you did put a racist slant on what you said!!! What about teh bad driving north of Egerton which has led to many deaths - and that is predominantly white Christian people, or what about Scout Road or Belmont Road - again predominantly white Christian drivers - or even the croner on teh main road to Ramsbottom from Harwood (where Boltom Blackburn and Bury boundary is - again mainly white Christian drivers, or what about teh more recent accident on St Peters Way/A666 by-pass - again white Christian driver - or what about those that race each along Crompton Way - predominantly white Christian drivers......
Why do you assume that all whites must be Christian?
The only person who mentioned white and Christian on this post is YOU! .That green your on must be very strong this evening.
[quote][p][bold]always lancastrian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: "There are other people who have accidents but there are certain Muslim areas well documented as being very high accident areas. Nice to see that it is finally accepted after many years being swept under the carpet for fear of Islamic sensitivity,s. Sad thing is, had it been looked at long ago innocent people who not have died or suffered." Blink eck UKIP are having a go at the Muslims now, keep digging yourselves into that hole. Can't Muslims not be British Citizens anymore?[/p][/quote]There you go again with your ukip obsession. The comment i wrote is fact that these areas are problem spots with mainly Muslim drivers % wise as is evident by the action by the Police to appeal to the Mosques concerned. Pity it was not brought to the fore sooner.[/p][/quote]But you did put a racist slant on what you said!!! What about teh bad driving north of Egerton which has led to many deaths - and that is predominantly white Christian people, or what about Scout Road or Belmont Road - again predominantly white Christian drivers - or even the croner on teh main road to Ramsbottom from Harwood (where Boltom Blackburn and Bury boundary is - again mainly white Christian drivers, or what about teh more recent accident on St Peters Way/A666 by-pass - again white Christian driver - or what about those that race each along Crompton Way - predominantly white Christian drivers......[/p][/quote]Why do you assume that all whites must be Christian?[/p][/quote]The only person who mentioned white and Christian on this post is YOU! .That green your on must be very strong this evening. thomas222
  • Score: 3

7:54pm Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

waterbottle wrote:
Chrome1 wrote: I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.
No churches are open these days so cant do any awareness courses there
Thats because we have got our heads around not living in the stone age past as Islam does.
[quote][p][bold]waterbottle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: I know of a few accidents caused by white people with a Christian heritage. Does that mean churches will be doing the same? The initiative on safe driving is welcome but this is more evidence of passive racism implicating a certain section of the population that have no connection with the incidents.[/p][/quote]No churches are open these days so cant do any awareness courses there[/p][/quote]Thats because we have got our heads around not living in the stone age past as Islam does. thomas222
  • Score: 7

8:50pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Greasy Chip Butty says...

Just to please all the prejudiced folk of Bolton, there ought to be similar initiatives in Hall ith wood, Blackrod, Harwood, Breightmet, Westhoughton, etc....
Just to please all the prejudiced folk of Bolton, there ought to be similar initiatives in Hall ith wood, Blackrod, Harwood, Breightmet, Westhoughton, etc.... Greasy Chip Butty
  • Score: -5

9:03pm Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

Greasy Chip Butty wrote:
Just to please all the prejudiced folk of Bolton, there ought to be similar initiatives in Hall ith wood, Blackrod, Harwood, Breightmet, Westhoughton, etc....
Not in the same League Butty check the statistics recorded you may get a shock.
[quote][p][bold]Greasy Chip Butty[/bold] wrote: Just to please all the prejudiced folk of Bolton, there ought to be similar initiatives in Hall ith wood, Blackrod, Harwood, Breightmet, Westhoughton, etc....[/p][/quote]Not in the same League Butty check the statistics recorded you may get a shock. thomas222
  • Score: 4

9:58pm Fri 21 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
The Righteous One wrote: Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith??? Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!!
Can you tell me what a white Christian driver looks like? Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic - they are all in a minority now. Religion is sliding backwards - so why make this about religion and driving? What you will find is people testify to being of a certain religion, yet they do not practice their religion correctly, go to church Synagog or Mosque - they drink, smoke, wear makeup, sketchy clothing and make absurd remarks such as I am a good Christian, Muslim, Jew when arrested. This isn't about religion, it is about road safety, it is not about UKIP, it is about awareness and the ability to function proper in a car - which incidentally is a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands. Now I would suggest that this safety campaign reaching out to Mosques means that the Muslim community have acknowledged a problem but the 12 year old's and Alzheimer's brigade here can only judge things by virtue of their IQ's - we should forgive them.
I as usual did not bring up ukip. Dont bend the truth please it gets boring.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith??? Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!![/p][/quote]Can you tell me what a white Christian driver looks like? Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic - they are all in a minority now. Religion is sliding backwards - so why make this about religion and driving? What you will find is people testify to being of a certain religion, yet they do not practice their religion correctly, go to church Synagog or Mosque - they drink, smoke, wear makeup, sketchy clothing and make absurd remarks such as I am a good Christian, Muslim, Jew when arrested. This isn't about religion, it is about road safety, it is not about UKIP, it is about awareness and the ability to function proper in a car - which incidentally is a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands. Now I would suggest that this safety campaign reaching out to Mosques means that the Muslim community have acknowledged a problem but the 12 year old's and Alzheimer's brigade here can only judge things by virtue of their IQ's - we should forgive them.[/p][/quote]I as usual did not bring up ukip. Dont bend the truth please it gets boring. thomas222
  • Score: 3

4:43am Sat 22 Feb 14

BoltonLancs says...

Excellent initiative from the fire service and the BCoM, they know the stats, they know which young drivers under 25 are most likely to drive and they are doing what they can to save lives.
Chrome1 is an all-out RACIST! It's too evident for BN to ignore..!
Excellent initiative from the fire service and the BCoM, they know the stats, they know which young drivers under 25 are most likely to drive and they are doing what they can to save lives. Chrome1 is an all-out RACIST! It's too evident for BN to ignore..! BoltonLancs
  • Score: 0

12:04pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Beyond News Forum says...

thomas222 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
The Righteous One wrote: Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith??? Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!!
Can you tell me what a white Christian driver looks like? Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic - they are all in a minority now. Religion is sliding backwards - so why make this about religion and driving? What you will find is people testify to being of a certain religion, yet they do not practice their religion correctly, go to church Synagog or Mosque - they drink, smoke, wear makeup, sketchy clothing and make absurd remarks such as I am a good Christian, Muslim, Jew when arrested. This isn't about religion, it is about road safety, it is not about UKIP, it is about awareness and the ability to function proper in a car - which incidentally is a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands. Now I would suggest that this safety campaign reaching out to Mosques means that the Muslim community have acknowledged a problem but the 12 year old's and Alzheimer's brigade here can only judge things by virtue of their IQ's - we should forgive them.
I as usual did not bring up ukip. Dont bend the truth please it gets boring.
I was directing that at the one that did bring up UKIP -and what bending of the truth? Point that out please because what I read up there is a bunch of idioms and racist slur.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith??? Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!![/p][/quote]Can you tell me what a white Christian driver looks like? Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic - they are all in a minority now. Religion is sliding backwards - so why make this about religion and driving? What you will find is people testify to being of a certain religion, yet they do not practice their religion correctly, go to church Synagog or Mosque - they drink, smoke, wear makeup, sketchy clothing and make absurd remarks such as I am a good Christian, Muslim, Jew when arrested. This isn't about religion, it is about road safety, it is not about UKIP, it is about awareness and the ability to function proper in a car - which incidentally is a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands. Now I would suggest that this safety campaign reaching out to Mosques means that the Muslim community have acknowledged a problem but the 12 year old's and Alzheimer's brigade here can only judge things by virtue of their IQ's - we should forgive them.[/p][/quote]I as usual did not bring up ukip. Dont bend the truth please it gets boring.[/p][/quote]I was directing that at the one that did bring up UKIP -and what bending of the truth? Point that out please because what I read up there is a bunch of idioms and racist slur. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 2

6:43pm Sat 22 Feb 14

VIGILANTE VIC says...

Police and fire service's unique driving safety scheme with Bolton mosques = IT WILL TAKE THEM A YEAR TO VISIT ALL THE NUMEROUS MOSQUES SPREAD ALL OVER BOLTON... NEVER MIND SURROUNDING DISTRICTS.
I PERSONALLY DO NOT CARE HOW MANY OF THESE IDIOTS LOSE THEIR LIVES TO BE HONEST AS LONG AS NO INNOCENT DRIVERS OR PEDESTRIANS DO, I WOULDN'T EVEN RING THE EMERGENCY SERVICES TO ATTEND TO THESE SIMPLETONS, IN FACT I WOULD P I S S MY SIDES IF THE TRUTH BE KNOWN, :-) THE JUDGES WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND REPRESENT US THE PUBLIC ARE LETTING US DOWN OVER AND OVER AGAIN, NO MATTER WHAT THE OFFENCES ARE THEY NEVER HAND DOWN TOUGH ENOUGH TERMS, THEY ARE A DISGRACE TO THEIR PROFESSION
Police and fire service's unique driving safety scheme with Bolton mosques = IT WILL TAKE THEM A YEAR TO VISIT ALL THE NUMEROUS MOSQUES SPREAD ALL OVER BOLTON... NEVER MIND SURROUNDING DISTRICTS. I PERSONALLY DO NOT CARE HOW MANY OF THESE IDIOTS LOSE THEIR LIVES TO BE HONEST AS LONG AS NO INNOCENT DRIVERS OR PEDESTRIANS DO, I WOULDN'T EVEN RING THE EMERGENCY SERVICES TO ATTEND TO THESE SIMPLETONS, IN FACT I WOULD P I S S MY SIDES IF THE TRUTH BE KNOWN, :-) THE JUDGES WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND REPRESENT US THE PUBLIC ARE LETTING US DOWN OVER AND OVER AGAIN, NO MATTER WHAT THE OFFENCES ARE THEY NEVER HAND DOWN TOUGH ENOUGH TERMS, THEY ARE A DISGRACE TO THEIR PROFESSION VIGILANTE VIC
  • Score: 7

7:11pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Puffin-Billy says...

Time and time again, on the main roads of Bolton and Farnworth, I see white women with tiny children in their Chelsea tractors driving with one hand whilst holding a mobile phone in the other, juggling with the steering wheel to turn a corner.

They are selfish morons who put their own lives, their children's, and those of the public in danger.

It has nothing to do with race and a lot to do with being a selfish moron.
Time and time again, on the main roads of Bolton and Farnworth, I see white women with tiny children in their Chelsea tractors driving with one hand whilst holding a mobile phone in the other, juggling with the steering wheel to turn a corner. They are selfish morons who put their own lives, their children's, and those of the public in danger. It has nothing to do with race and a lot to do with being a selfish moron. Puffin-Billy
  • Score: 3

7:59pm Sat 22 Feb 14

thomas222 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
The Righteous One wrote: Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith??? Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!!
Can you tell me what a white Christian driver looks like? Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic - they are all in a minority now. Religion is sliding backwards - so why make this about religion and driving? What you will find is people testify to being of a certain religion, yet they do not practice their religion correctly, go to church Synagog or Mosque - they drink, smoke, wear makeup, sketchy clothing and make absurd remarks such as I am a good Christian, Muslim, Jew when arrested. This isn't about religion, it is about road safety, it is not about UKIP, it is about awareness and the ability to function proper in a car - which incidentally is a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands. Now I would suggest that this safety campaign reaching out to Mosques means that the Muslim community have acknowledged a problem but the 12 year old's and Alzheimer's brigade here can only judge things by virtue of their IQ's - we should forgive them.
I as usual did not bring up ukip. Dont bend the truth please it gets boring.
I was directing that at the one that did bring up UKIP -and what bending of the truth? Point that out please because what I read up there is a bunch of idioms and racist slur.
wrong post mate got mixed up apoligies.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Notice the the thumb downers don't like the idea that white Christian drivers can also be bad drivers - so does that means all bad drivers have to be of teh Muslim faith??? Check the records and check EVERY report, in last 12 month in this paper and then come back with the answer!!!![/p][/quote]Can you tell me what a white Christian driver looks like? Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Catholic - they are all in a minority now. Religion is sliding backwards - so why make this about religion and driving? What you will find is people testify to being of a certain religion, yet they do not practice their religion correctly, go to church Synagog or Mosque - they drink, smoke, wear makeup, sketchy clothing and make absurd remarks such as I am a good Christian, Muslim, Jew when arrested. This isn't about religion, it is about road safety, it is not about UKIP, it is about awareness and the ability to function proper in a car - which incidentally is a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands. Now I would suggest that this safety campaign reaching out to Mosques means that the Muslim community have acknowledged a problem but the 12 year old's and Alzheimer's brigade here can only judge things by virtue of their IQ's - we should forgive them.[/p][/quote]I as usual did not bring up ukip. Dont bend the truth please it gets boring.[/p][/quote]I was directing that at the one that did bring up UKIP -and what bending of the truth? Point that out please because what I read up there is a bunch of idioms and racist slur.[/p][/quote]wrong post mate got mixed up apoligies. thomas222
  • Score: 1

11:26pm Sat 22 Feb 14

VIGILANTE VIC says...

HERE WE GO AGAIN, SAME OLD STORY AS USUAL !!!!

http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/news/1101
3841.Driver_killed_h
is_best_friend_while
__showing_off__in_ca
r/?ref=ar
HERE WE GO AGAIN, SAME OLD STORY AS USUAL !!!! http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/1101 3841.Driver_killed_h is_best_friend_while __showing_off__in_ca r/?ref=ar VIGILANTE VIC
  • Score: 1

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