Ex-marine jailed for brutal attack in Burnley

This Is Lancashire: ‘Powerfully-built’ Callum Krzysik knocked out Nathan Hugill with a single punch ‘Powerfully-built’ Callum Krzysik knocked out Nathan Hugill with a single punch

AN ex-Royal Marine who knocked out a teenager with a single punch, leaving him with brain injuries and suffering fits, has been jailed for 20 months.

Callum Krzysik, 24, ranked second in the country for amateur mixed martial arts, attacked Nathan Hugill, an 18-year-old apprentice builder, in Burnley's Bar Code.

He then stood over his victim, shouting aggressively in his face while he lay unconscious on the dance floor and went on to shake hands with others clubbers.

Two off-duty paramedics offered medical assistance while an ambulance was called.

When a police officer was arresting the defendant, he drunkenly told him: "That lad deserved everything he got."

Krzysik afterwards tried to justify what he had done on Facebook, saying he wished he could put on the CCTV footage of the incident for others to view.

He had been just about to emigrate to Australia when he meted out the early hours violence, was desperate to go and offered cash and then 'anything' to his victim by proxy to try and get him to drop the charge, Burnley Crown Court heard.

The hearing was told Mr Hugill received multiple contusions to the frontal region of his brain, suffered two seizures, had to be prescribed anti-epilepsy medication and was not allowed to drive for seven months.

The defendant admitted inflicting grievous bodily harm last April 14 and attempting to pervert the course of justice. Krzysik, of Rosehill Road, Burnley, has previous convictions for breaking a victim's nose with a headbutt and being drunk and disorderly.

Prosecutor Nicholas Courtney said: " It would appear that the defendant is a young man who can't take his drink."

Mr Courtney told the court Mr Hugill's close friend, Poppy Kirkbride, was dancing with the defendant. He started to flirt with her, she felt uncomfortable when he asked for a kiss, didn't know what to do and looked towards the victim and another man, seemingly wanting their help.

Mr Hugill pushed the defendant aside and Krzysik squared up to him and took up a fighting stance. The victim stepped forward, with his arms down by his side and appeared to be neither about to attack nor anticipating attack.

The defendant then punched Mr Hugill on the left side of his jaw and the victim was immediately knocked unconscious by the force. He fell and banged his head on the floor. Mr Hugill was taken to the Royal Blackburn Hospital, with a large swelling over his left cheek.

A CT scan appeared normal, but the victim later returned to casualty after suffering two convulsions and a second scan showed multiple small contusions to the frontal region of his brain.

He was given medication to prevent further fits and discharged three days later. The prosecutor added: "The consultant stated significant trauma would be required to cause these contusions."

Mr Hugill also had a black eye, drowsiness, numbness, headaches and nose bleeds, was off work a month and then had to be put on restricted duties. He missed his final college exams.

Mr Courtney said Krzysik denied the offence when interviewed and was bailed. On May 23, Mr Hugill received two calls passing on messages from the defendant.

The prosecutor continued: "He was offered £300 in return for dropping the assault charge and immediately refused. The second message said he would give him anything to drop the charge. Mr Hugill again immediately refused the offer and told the police."

Daniel Lister, defending, said Krzysik accepted the seriousness of what he had done, which had been 'beyond foolish.'

Mr Lister said the defendant, a car salesman, had raised money for charity, including running for five miles in a mankini, and received a commendation from the Marines.

Sentencing, Judge Robert Altham told him: "There can be no justification for the level of force that you used upon him."

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9:40am Mon 3 Feb 14

bigste says...

Animal has got what he deserves.
Animal has got what he deserves. bigste
  • Score: 33

10:28am Mon 3 Feb 14

LLiveMan says...

That'll teach him!!! 20 months! Courts need to get a grip, put people away for longer and make prison an actual punishment!!! Let's get tough
That'll teach him!!! 20 months! Courts need to get a grip, put people away for longer and make prison an actual punishment!!! Let's get tough LLiveMan
  • Score: 49

12:37pm Mon 3 Feb 14

rudis_dad says...

20 months for effectively ruining someone's life? Brilliant. Why should England tremble...?
20 months for effectively ruining someone's life? Brilliant. Why should England tremble...? rudis_dad
  • Score: 35

1:17pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Elsie C says...

What a scum bag & a bully!
What a scum bag & a bully! Elsie C
  • Score: 23

1:43pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Benpupdog says...

This trained thug should have been given at least 20 years.
This trained thug should have been given at least 20 years. Benpupdog
  • Score: 29

2:44pm Mon 3 Feb 14

01282tom says...

All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top 01282tom
  • Score: -72

3:23pm Mon 3 Feb 14

andy1 says...

If he had still been in the forces he may of got Colchester Correction Center a lot tougher than civvy nick. He really wants to be thankful hes no longer in. Was no excuse for this attack.
If he had still been in the forces he may of got Colchester Correction Center a lot tougher than civvy nick. He really wants to be thankful hes no longer in. Was no excuse for this attack. andy1
  • Score: 20

3:36pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ClaretSince94 says...

01282tom wrote:
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
"Would rather talk out of a fight" - clearly not. Judging from the article they had CCTV of the incident and the victim didn't act aggresively (didn't raise his arms). "Cal" is obviously scum and knew he had no defence because he tried to bride the victim out of pursuing the case, he maybe be your mate but that changes nothing.
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top[/p][/quote]"Would rather talk out of a fight" - clearly not. Judging from the article they had CCTV of the incident and the victim didn't act aggresively (didn't raise his arms). "Cal" is obviously scum and knew he had no defence because he tried to bride the victim out of pursuing the case, he maybe be your mate but that changes nothing. ClaretSince94
  • Score: 37

3:39pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Casper's mum says...

01282tom wrote:
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
Regardless of whether he's served his country and raised lots of money for charity, he has caused harm to someone.
In this instance, his actions caused an argument. He did use force and didn't talk out of a fight. He did not use his army skills to help him look at the situation apart from his fighting skills. He reacted to the alleged abuse from Hugill and used violence first.
His actions have altered another man's life for the worse, forever and for that he deserves to be punished, in my opinion for longer than the 20 months he has been given.
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top[/p][/quote]Regardless of whether he's served his country and raised lots of money for charity, he has caused harm to someone. In this instance, his actions caused an argument. He did use force and didn't talk out of a fight. He did not use his army skills to help him look at the situation apart from his fighting skills. He reacted to the alleged abuse from Hugill and used violence first. His actions have altered another man's life for the worse, forever and for that he deserves to be punished, in my opinion for longer than the 20 months he has been given. Casper's mum
  • Score: 33

3:45pm Mon 3 Feb 14

noddy57 says...

just an out and out thug nothing less,,deserves all he got in fact he should have got much more,, he obviously has not learned from his previous assault,
just an out and out thug nothing less,,deserves all he got in fact he should have got much more,, he obviously has not learned from his previous assault, noddy57
  • Score: 28

3:51pm Mon 3 Feb 14

u owe u owe says...

Train em young, send em out to fight in foreign lands,watch friends get killed or injured and expect them to come home without anger issues. Clueless
Train em young, send em out to fight in foreign lands,watch friends get killed or injured and expect them to come home without anger issues. Clueless u owe u owe
  • Score: 8

4:01pm Mon 3 Feb 14

01282tom says...

cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned
cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned 01282tom
  • Score: -42

4:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

01282tom says...

also you wonder why people were shaking his hand becuase hugill started it
also you wonder why people were shaking his hand becuase hugill started it 01282tom
  • Score: -37

4:17pm Mon 3 Feb 14

rudis_dad says...

It takes a bigger man to walk away. Clearly, the evidence has all been rigged, and the jury, judge, police and CPS are all wrong and 01282tom is right. Regardless of his record, he broke the law, he has to pay the price. 20 months for effectively ruining someones life is nothing. As someone has already pointed out, he's lucky he's not still in, Colchester's a scary place on the outside - I certainly wouldn't fancy being on the inside.
It takes a bigger man to walk away. Clearly, the evidence has all been rigged, and the jury, judge, police and CPS are all wrong and 01282tom is right. Regardless of his record, he broke the law, he has to pay the price. 20 months for effectively ruining someones life is nothing. As someone has already pointed out, he's lucky he's not still in, Colchester's a scary place on the outside - I certainly wouldn't fancy being on the inside. rudis_dad
  • Score: 25

4:27pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Blackburn_End says...

01282tom wrote:
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
" previous convictions for breaking a victim's nose with a headbutt and being drunk and disorderly."

Form for being a scum bag!
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top[/p][/quote]" previous convictions for breaking a victim's nose with a headbutt and being drunk and disorderly." Form for being a scum bag! Blackburn_End
  • Score: 36

4:52pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Chris P Bacon says...

01282tom wrote:
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
Can you try that in English, please?
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top[/p][/quote]Can you try that in English, please? Chris P Bacon
  • Score: 23

5:14pm Mon 3 Feb 14

p1mpdee says...

01282tom wrote:
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
let me guess a friend ??? he's an idiot and 20 months poss out in 10 isn't anywhere near long enough and for being an mma(laughs) fighter all be it amateur his training should of made him walk away.....again he's an idiot
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top[/p][/quote]let me guess a friend ??? he's an idiot and 20 months poss out in 10 isn't anywhere near long enough and for being an mma(laughs) fighter all be it amateur his training should of made him walk away.....again he's an idiot p1mpdee
  • Score: 25

5:33pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Interocitor says...

A far too lenient sentence for a thug with previous. In fact, it would have been a lenient sentence if the thug had no previous whatsoever. It's just absolutely ridiculous!
A far too lenient sentence for a thug with previous. In fact, it would have been a lenient sentence if the thug had no previous whatsoever. It's just absolutely ridiculous! Interocitor
  • Score: 23

5:53pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sensible chap says...

I am told that Mr Hugil had had a few to drink as well and the video evidence played in the court clearly showed him walk over and stick his face right up to Krzysik's nose hoping for some sort of response as his friends were there to back him up. Everything is not as black and white as the print suggests, I heard Mr Hugill is now back at work and on the ale again every week so his ruined life has miraculously reverted back to normal mode. I hope that he too thinks twice about who he chooses to confront as he may not be as lucky next time.
Krzysik will have 20 months to think about what he has done.
I am told that Mr Hugil had had a few to drink as well and the video evidence played in the court clearly showed him walk over and stick his face right up to Krzysik's nose hoping for some sort of response as his friends were there to back him up. Everything is not as black and white as the print suggests, I heard Mr Hugill is now back at work and on the ale again every week so his ruined life has miraculously reverted back to normal mode. I hope that he too thinks twice about who he chooses to confront as he may not be as lucky next time. Krzysik will have 20 months to think about what he has done. sensible chap
  • Score: -10

5:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steven Seagull says...

01282tom wrote:
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
Are you on crack or something? Your "buddy" is nothing but a violent thug who then tries to interfere with the administration of justice.

He's a real salt of the earth is this guy.
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top[/p][/quote]Are you on crack or something? Your "buddy" is nothing but a violent thug who then tries to interfere with the administration of justice. He's a real salt of the earth is this guy. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 25

6:05pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steven Seagull says...

01282tom wrote:
cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned
Yes and your mates @rse will be burning in the showers on a daily basis for the next 20 months.

Stick to drinking around Burnley Wood or Stoops where this kind of behaviour is considered an acceptable part of a night out.
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned[/p][/quote]Yes and your mates @rse will be burning in the showers on a daily basis for the next 20 months. Stick to drinking around Burnley Wood or Stoops where this kind of behaviour is considered an acceptable part of a night out. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 16

6:23pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sen c b l says...

01282tom wrote:
cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned
Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills!

P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned[/p][/quote]Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills! P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'. sen c b l
  • Score: 10

6:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steven Seagull says...

sen c b l wrote:
01282tom wrote:
cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned
Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills!

P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.
Ahhh Sen, I though you might come into this debate, I'm sure you've got plenty of stories where you have used your 8th Dan, triple black belt, Bruce Lee vulcan death grip type self defense skills.

I bow to you Sen Miyagi.
[quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned[/p][/quote]Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills! P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.[/p][/quote]Ahhh Sen, I though you might come into this debate, I'm sure you've got plenty of stories where you have used your 8th Dan, triple black belt, Bruce Lee vulcan death grip type self defense skills. I bow to you Sen Miyagi. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 6

7:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Magicalmystery123 says...

01282tom wrote:
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
Tom, he was nothing short of a bully and scum in school and still to this day remains a bully and scum. He clearly cannot handle his drink to go and do this. He has been convicted of assault related offences and drink related offences a number of times now. When will you take your rose tinted glasses off and realise he is nothing but a thug!
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top[/p][/quote]Tom, he was nothing short of a bully and scum in school and still to this day remains a bully and scum. He clearly cannot handle his drink to go and do this. He has been convicted of assault related offences and drink related offences a number of times now. When will you take your rose tinted glasses off and realise he is nothing but a thug! Magicalmystery123
  • Score: 24

7:14pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sen c b l says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
01282tom wrote:
cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned
Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills!

P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.
Ahhh Sen, I though you might come into this debate, I'm sure you've got plenty of stories where you have used your 8th Dan, triple black belt, Bruce Lee vulcan death grip type self defense skills.

I bow to you Sen Miyagi.
Gull dropping let me tell you this you wimp. A man who has discipline will win in any combat. This is what we call the 'the art of self defence'.

You may well pick up a baseball bat in your battles and if you were a shopkeeper, an iron bar but the fact is you will find it well rammed up your back passage if used on someone who knows how to disarm you.

Now run along little office boy and tell your mamma that you've learned something today. X
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned[/p][/quote]Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills! P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.[/p][/quote]Ahhh Sen, I though you might come into this debate, I'm sure you've got plenty of stories where you have used your 8th Dan, triple black belt, Bruce Lee vulcan death grip type self defense skills. I bow to you Sen Miyagi.[/p][/quote]Gull dropping let me tell you this you wimp. A man who has discipline will win in any combat. This is what we call the 'the art of self defence'. You may well pick up a baseball bat in your battles and if you were a shopkeeper, an iron bar but the fact is you will find it well rammed up your back passage if used on someone who knows how to disarm you. Now run along little office boy and tell your mamma that you've learned something today. X sen c b l
  • Score: -7

8:17pm Mon 3 Feb 14

lemnats says...

Once again we see people who resort to violence and ruin someone's life, getting off with an all to lenient sentence, It's about time the courts handed out sentences that fit the crime!
Once again we see people who resort to violence and ruin someone's life, getting off with an all to lenient sentence, It's about time the courts handed out sentences that fit the crime! lemnats
  • Score: 7

8:29pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sensible chap says...

How has his life been ruined? there is nothing wrong with him.
How has his life been ruined? there is nothing wrong with him. sensible chap
  • Score: -9

8:40pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steven Seagull says...

sen c b l wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
01282tom wrote:
cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned
Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills!

P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.
Ahhh Sen, I though you might come into this debate, I'm sure you've got plenty of stories where you have used your 8th Dan, triple black belt, Bruce Lee vulcan death grip type self defense skills.

I bow to you Sen Miyagi.
Gull dropping let me tell you this you wimp. A man who has discipline will win in any combat. This is what we call the 'the art of self defence'.

You may well pick up a baseball bat in your battles and if you were a shopkeeper, an iron bar but the fact is you will find it well rammed up your back passage if used on someone who knows how to disarm you.

Now run along little office boy and tell your mamma that you've learned something today. X
You should write those little notes that go inside fortune cookies.

SEN SAYS THAT MAN WITH HAND IN POCKET FEELS COCKY ALL DAY.
[quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned[/p][/quote]Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills! P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.[/p][/quote]Ahhh Sen, I though you might come into this debate, I'm sure you've got plenty of stories where you have used your 8th Dan, triple black belt, Bruce Lee vulcan death grip type self defense skills. I bow to you Sen Miyagi.[/p][/quote]Gull dropping let me tell you this you wimp. A man who has discipline will win in any combat. This is what we call the 'the art of self defence'. You may well pick up a baseball bat in your battles and if you were a shopkeeper, an iron bar but the fact is you will find it well rammed up your back passage if used on someone who knows how to disarm you. Now run along little office boy and tell your mamma that you've learned something today. X[/p][/quote]You should write those little notes that go inside fortune cookies. SEN SAYS THAT MAN WITH HAND IN POCKET FEELS COCKY ALL DAY. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 5

9:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sen c b l says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
01282tom wrote:
cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned
Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills!

P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.
Ahhh Sen, I though you might come into this debate, I'm sure you've got plenty of stories where you have used your 8th Dan, triple black belt, Bruce Lee vulcan death grip type self defense skills.

I bow to you Sen Miyagi.
Gull dropping let me tell you this you wimp. A man who has discipline will win in any combat. This is what we call the 'the art of self defence'.

You may well pick up a baseball bat in your battles and if you were a shopkeeper, an iron bar but the fact is you will find it well rammed up your back passage if used on someone who knows how to disarm you.

Now run along little office boy and tell your mamma that you've learned something today. X
You should write those little notes that go inside fortune cookies.

SEN SAYS THAT MAN WITH HAND IN POCKET FEELS COCKY ALL DAY.
What are you doing on this page gulldropping?

Tuck in bed it's school tomorrow and don't be late it's bakery and sewing classes for little girls.

Goodnight!
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned[/p][/quote]Pushing is a no excuse for a punch, mate. For someone to walk up straight into ones face after directing abuse the marine could have been on alert and on more of a defensive mode rather than going on the attack. There are various defensive skills he could have taken but regrettably the action he took is what he knows best and not necessarily a man of skills! P S Ignore Steven seagulldropping 's comment. It's his favourite caption, 'are you on crack, meth or something'.[/p][/quote]Ahhh Sen, I though you might come into this debate, I'm sure you've got plenty of stories where you have used your 8th Dan, triple black belt, Bruce Lee vulcan death grip type self defense skills. I bow to you Sen Miyagi.[/p][/quote]Gull dropping let me tell you this you wimp. A man who has discipline will win in any combat. This is what we call the 'the art of self defence'. You may well pick up a baseball bat in your battles and if you were a shopkeeper, an iron bar but the fact is you will find it well rammed up your back passage if used on someone who knows how to disarm you. Now run along little office boy and tell your mamma that you've learned something today. X[/p][/quote]You should write those little notes that go inside fortune cookies. SEN SAYS THAT MAN WITH HAND IN POCKET FEELS COCKY ALL DAY.[/p][/quote]What are you doing on this page gulldropping? Tuck in bed it's school tomorrow and don't be late it's bakery and sewing classes for little girls. Goodnight! sen c b l
  • Score: -3

9:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Pommie Art says...

01282tom wrote:
All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top
your another sh1t for brains, he broke the law: end of story & to top it all off he has skills that can kill a person. i know this much he wont be coming to Australia now seeming the cabbage now has a police record.maybe he can use his self defense skills in prison when he bends over to pick up the soap in the showers. (Ouch) more tea vicar.
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: All you commenting saying scum bag you dont even no cal , this is a guy who has served this country this is a guy who raises £1000s for charity cal , this is a guy who would not cause an argument with any body and would rather talk out of a fight rather then use force , in the situation he was pushed by hugill and was giving abuse , being in the army his skills would of helped him to look at the situation in the best mannor as hugill was about to assult cal , cal used his instinct and acted first the papaer has gone abit over the top[/p][/quote]your another sh1t for brains, he broke the law: end of story & to top it all off he has skills that can kill a person. i know this much he wont be coming to Australia now seeming the cabbage now has a police record.maybe he can use his self defense skills in prison when he bends over to pick up the soap in the showers. (Ouch) more tea vicar. Pommie Art
  • Score: 18

9:06pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Pommie Art says...

01282tom wrote:
cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned
(instant cal responded) what kind of cabbage are you or should i be asking what kind of Drugs was you & the cabbage Cal on that night, can you remember.
[quote][p][bold]01282tom[/bold] wrote: cctv ? i was there you pillock ? cal did talk to him cal said look its nothing to do with mate , from where me and most the people in the club saw a male come and said thats enough and then pushed him in an instant cal responded ... you play with fire you get burned[/p][/quote](instant cal responded) what kind of cabbage are you or should i be asking what kind of Drugs was you & the cabbage Cal on that night, can you remember. Pommie Art
  • Score: 14

1:01pm Thu 13 Feb 14

claretsmad18 says...

It's all fair that the papers can write an absolute bulls*** story and plaster my picture about when I'm not there to defend myself. There are a lot of people there at the time that saw it and people have seen the cctv and they know the truth. I just hope that people don't swallow that absolute shi** they've read. He came over and he pushed me and leaned forward with his head like a maniac. Brain damage? He's out on his bike every weekend and is going on a holiday to Magaluf? Proper brain damage! It's all lies.

That was Cal's letter he sent to one of his best friends. Yes he has previous convictions but he was turning his life around, he did all that for charity when he really didn't need to. One mistake he makes in self defense and every one starts calling him scum of the earth. Nathan is fine, he brought it on himself. If you don't know Cal, leave him alone!
It's all fair that the papers can write an absolute bulls*** story and plaster my picture about when I'm not there to defend myself. There are a lot of people there at the time that saw it and people have seen the cctv and they know the truth. I just hope that people don't swallow that absolute shi** they've read. He came over and he pushed me and leaned forward with his head like a maniac. Brain damage? He's out on his bike every weekend and is going on a holiday to Magaluf? Proper brain damage! It's all lies. That was Cal's letter he sent to one of his best friends. Yes he has previous convictions but he was turning his life around, he did all that for charity when he really didn't need to. One mistake he makes in self defense and every one starts calling him scum of the earth. Nathan is fine, he brought it on himself. If you don't know Cal, leave him alone! claretsmad18
  • Score: 0

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