Clitheroe calls on minister to ‘call in’ decision

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CLITHEROE Town Council is calling on a cabinet minister to have his say on plans to construct 1,040 houses in the town.

The proposal, which was the biggest planning application in the history of the Ribble Valley, was approved by the borough council in December.

The proposal was submitted to the borough in October 2012 by the trustees of the Standen Estate and includes 728 market homes, and 312 affordable homes.

At a meeting on Monday night, the town council voted to ask the secretary of state communities and local government, Eric Pickles, to ‘call in’ the borough’s decision.

Most planning applications are decided by local authorities, but the secretary of state has reserve powers to direct the authority to refer an application to them for decision.

Town councillor Sue Knox said: “Because of the size of the application the secretary of state has to decide if there is enough evidence to call it in. It is incomprehensible that the council could decide on such a huge application that will change the nature of Clitheroe a week before the hearing in public by the planning inspector into the core strategy.”

Town councillor Jim Shervey said: “I am shocked the application was approved against the advice of the Lancashire County Council highways department.” The county questioned access and severe traffic disruption at the Waterloo/Shawbridge Street junction.

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5:03pm Wed 29 Jan 14

charmed-one says...

As the majority of the Councillors on the Planning Committee are from the villages, they will almost always vote for any large development in Clitheroe, so as to protect their own wards. The Waddow View application (won on appeal last week by local residents) is about the only application I can think of which they refused.
So it's no wonder they voted it through a week before the Inspector visited to hear the Core Strategy, despite Lancashire highways actually objecting for once, because there is only one access road in the plan, for 1040 houses! This application alone, also makes up almost 40% of the new homes to be built in the RV by 2028!
As the majority of the Councillors on the Planning Committee are from the villages, they will almost always vote for any large development in Clitheroe, so as to protect their own wards. The Waddow View application (won on appeal last week by local residents) is about the only application I can think of which they refused. So it's no wonder they voted it through a week before the Inspector visited to hear the Core Strategy, despite Lancashire highways actually objecting for once, because there is only one access road in the plan, for 1040 houses! This application alone, also makes up almost 40% of the new homes to be built in the RV by 2028! charmed-one

5:18pm Wed 29 Jan 14

shytalk says...

Basically the government shouts pooh and the councils jump on the shovel.
Local democracy has gone out of the window. Local Tory fundraisers have no issue selling off land to development companies, who then also donate to the party. Its a win win situation for the government and a lose lose situation for people who object and also the environment.
If you want to stop over development then don't vote for Nigel Evans or you will get more of the same.
Basically the government shouts pooh and the councils jump on the shovel. Local democracy has gone out of the window. Local Tory fundraisers have no issue selling off land to development companies, who then also donate to the party. Its a win win situation for the government and a lose lose situation for people who object and also the environment. If you want to stop over development then don't vote for Nigel Evans or you will get more of the same. shytalk

6:22pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

The whole of Ribble Valley's planning department is out of control and they cannot see beyond the bounds of Whalley, Barrow and Clitheroe, when it comes to locating houses. Anyone with a modicum of sense, would spread the distribution evenly across the borough, or nearer to the major employment centres, which let's face it are in neighbouring districts. At the recent Core Strategy meeting, Colin Hirst stated that 5,000 new houses are needed, due to a 'predicted/finger in the air' job growth of 110 places per year, at the BAE Systems Samlesbury, where they are still perusing their 'pipe dream' of creating an aerospace enterprise park, against a dwindling order book for their Typhoon Eurofighter. Now if this was the case, wouldn't it be better to create a whole new settlement near Osbaldeston or Mellor Brook, rather than one twelve miles away in Clitheroe ?

If you google the Ribble Valley Employment Land Refresh 2013, you are in for a comedy treat, it has been written by consultants that appear to know sweet Father Abrahams about what goes on in or around the borough. According to them, very few people from Blackburn & Darwen, Hyndburn or Pendle work in aerospace related industries, despite the existence of Rolls Royce, Aircelle, Kamen Engineering, Callender Aeropart, Unison Engine Components and countless others. It would appear that aerospace engineering is a skill only reserved for Ribble Valley residents and whilst BAE is eventually going to shrink its workforce at Warton, they are strangely not going to re-employ them Samlesbury, as we already have a fully trained workforce here, that are raring to go. Furthermore furniture manufacturer is a new growth industry in the valley, but this must be top secret, as I've not found any. I do however know that there are more than 2500 people in neighbouring boroughs employed in this industry, so are we about to see a boundary change ?

The truth is that it's a total shambles and the only way to correct this is to employ new people, who are up to the job.
The whole of Ribble Valley's planning department is out of control and they cannot see beyond the bounds of Whalley, Barrow and Clitheroe, when it comes to locating houses. Anyone with a modicum of sense, would spread the distribution evenly across the borough, or nearer to the major employment centres, which let's face it are in neighbouring districts. At the recent Core Strategy meeting, Colin Hirst stated that 5,000 new houses are needed, due to a 'predicted/finger in the air' job growth of 110 places per year, at the BAE Systems Samlesbury, where they are still perusing their 'pipe dream' of creating an aerospace enterprise park, against a dwindling order book for their Typhoon Eurofighter. Now if this was the case, wouldn't it be better to create a whole new settlement near Osbaldeston or Mellor Brook, rather than one twelve miles away in Clitheroe ? If you google the Ribble Valley Employment Land Refresh 2013, you are in for a comedy treat, it has been written by consultants that appear to know sweet Father Abrahams about what goes on in or around the borough. According to them, very few people from Blackburn & Darwen, Hyndburn or Pendle work in aerospace related industries, despite the existence of Rolls Royce, Aircelle, Kamen Engineering, Callender Aeropart, Unison Engine Components and countless others. It would appear that aerospace engineering is a skill only reserved for Ribble Valley residents and whilst BAE is eventually going to shrink its workforce at Warton, they are strangely not going to re-employ them Samlesbury, as we already have a fully trained workforce here, that are raring to go. Furthermore furniture manufacturer is a new growth industry in the valley, but this must be top secret, as I've not found any. I do however know that there are more than 2500 people in neighbouring boroughs employed in this industry, so are we about to see a boundary change ? The truth is that it's a total shambles and the only way to correct this is to employ new people, who are up to the job. Birtrumthegreat

8:52am Thu 30 Jan 14

AnimalReid says...

Birtrumthegreat wrote:
The whole of Ribble Valley's planning department is out of control and they cannot see beyond the bounds of Whalley, Barrow and Clitheroe, when it comes to locating houses. Anyone with a modicum of sense, would spread the distribution evenly across the borough, or nearer to the major employment centres, which let's face it are in neighbouring districts. At the recent Core Strategy meeting, Colin Hirst stated that 5,000 new houses are needed, due to a 'predicted/finger in the air' job growth of 110 places per year, at the BAE Systems Samlesbury, where they are still perusing their 'pipe dream' of creating an aerospace enterprise park, against a dwindling order book for their Typhoon Eurofighter. Now if this was the case, wouldn't it be better to create a whole new settlement near Osbaldeston or Mellor Brook, rather than one twelve miles away in Clitheroe ?

If you google the Ribble Valley Employment Land Refresh 2013, you are in for a comedy treat, it has been written by consultants that appear to know sweet Father Abrahams about what goes on in or around the borough. According to them, very few people from Blackburn & Darwen, Hyndburn or Pendle work in aerospace related industries, despite the existence of Rolls Royce, Aircelle, Kamen Engineering, Callender Aeropart, Unison Engine Components and countless others. It would appear that aerospace engineering is a skill only reserved for Ribble Valley residents and whilst BAE is eventually going to shrink its workforce at Warton, they are strangely not going to re-employ them Samlesbury, as we already have a fully trained workforce here, that are raring to go. Furthermore furniture manufacturer is a new growth industry in the valley, but this must be top secret, as I've not found any. I do however know that there are more than 2500 people in neighbouring boroughs employed in this industry, so are we about to see a boundary change ?

The truth is that it's a total shambles and the only way to correct this is to employ new people, who are up to the job.
Great post. I enjoyed reading that more than the article.
[quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: The whole of Ribble Valley's planning department is out of control and they cannot see beyond the bounds of Whalley, Barrow and Clitheroe, when it comes to locating houses. Anyone with a modicum of sense, would spread the distribution evenly across the borough, or nearer to the major employment centres, which let's face it are in neighbouring districts. At the recent Core Strategy meeting, Colin Hirst stated that 5,000 new houses are needed, due to a 'predicted/finger in the air' job growth of 110 places per year, at the BAE Systems Samlesbury, where they are still perusing their 'pipe dream' of creating an aerospace enterprise park, against a dwindling order book for their Typhoon Eurofighter. Now if this was the case, wouldn't it be better to create a whole new settlement near Osbaldeston or Mellor Brook, rather than one twelve miles away in Clitheroe ? If you google the Ribble Valley Employment Land Refresh 2013, you are in for a comedy treat, it has been written by consultants that appear to know sweet Father Abrahams about what goes on in or around the borough. According to them, very few people from Blackburn & Darwen, Hyndburn or Pendle work in aerospace related industries, despite the existence of Rolls Royce, Aircelle, Kamen Engineering, Callender Aeropart, Unison Engine Components and countless others. It would appear that aerospace engineering is a skill only reserved for Ribble Valley residents and whilst BAE is eventually going to shrink its workforce at Warton, they are strangely not going to re-employ them Samlesbury, as we already have a fully trained workforce here, that are raring to go. Furthermore furniture manufacturer is a new growth industry in the valley, but this must be top secret, as I've not found any. I do however know that there are more than 2500 people in neighbouring boroughs employed in this industry, so are we about to see a boundary change ? The truth is that it's a total shambles and the only way to correct this is to employ new people, who are up to the job.[/p][/quote]Great post. I enjoyed reading that more than the article. AnimalReid

8:14pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

It's amazing that planning permissions was refused for 200 houses, on a greenfield site that borders Colne and Nelson, on the ground that there was only one access route in and out of the location, yet Ribble Valley Planning Department think that it's fine to go ahead with a similar development, but with 1040 residences instead. There's a funny smell about this one and it certainly isn't from a horse.
It's amazing that planning permissions was refused for 200 houses, on a greenfield site that borders Colne and Nelson, on the ground that there was only one access route in and out of the location, yet Ribble Valley Planning Department think that it's fine to go ahead with a similar development, but with 1040 residences instead. There's a funny smell about this one and it certainly isn't from a horse. Birtrumthegreat

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