Blackburn council bosses accused over lorries row in Sandy Lane

This Is Lancashire: A lorry not using Sandy Lane, passes by the sign. Pleas have been made for action on Sandy Lane A lorry not using Sandy Lane, passes by the sign. Pleas have been made for action on Sandy Lane

COUNCIL bosses have been accused of putting the interests of lorries ahead of the safety of residents after they refused to impose restrictions on a busy road.

Fernhurst councillor Denise Gee made the allegation after her personal plea for a one-way order on Sandy Lane, from the A666 Bolton Road, or a 20mph speed limit, was rejected by borough highways boss Maureen Bateson.

The Tory attended Blackburn with Darwen Council’s executive board meeting on behalf of residents.

They were concerned about repeated damage to car wing-mirrors, small accidents and one near-miss when a vehicle almost collided with a pedestrian on the Lower Darwen feeder road.

She told Coun Bateson: “After our surgery meeting and consultation with residents of Sandy Lane, we are requesting that Sandy Lane is made one-way going down from the A666.

“If this is not feasible, we request a 20mph zone, due to the amount of damage caused to vehicles and a near-miss to a resident.

“We feel the one-way system is the best way to control this.” Coun Bateson said: “Sandy Lane is a classified road (B6231) and is an important link from businesses in Lower Darwen through to the A666 and on to access the M65 at junction four.

“Therefore, it would not be appropriate for this link to be made one-way. With regard to making the road a 20mph zone, to be effective on a relatively short steep road such as this would require the introduction of physical traffic calming measures which, from experience, are unpopular on routes used by heavy goods vehicles such as this.

“Officers will collect traffic data (numbers and speed) and look to see if there are any other measures which could be implemented to improve the situation for residents.”

After the meeting Coun Gee said: “I am totally disappointed that the council is putting the interests of heavy good vehicles ahead of the safety of residents.

“We have had many cases of wing-mirrors being knocked off, minor damage to parked cars and lorries blocking the whole road.

“There has been at least one near-miss where a resident was almost knocked down by a rapidly moving vehicle. The council should think again.”

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5:17pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

Before the construction of the M65 motorway, the B road down Sandy Lane was the major route from Darwen out towards Accrington and East Lancashire. Any wagon going in that direction would have had to use this route. the number of wagons using this route must be significantly reduced from those days.
Before the construction of the M65 motorway, the B road down Sandy Lane was the major route from Darwen out towards Accrington and East Lancashire. Any wagon going in that direction would have had to use this route. the number of wagons using this route must be significantly reduced from those days. Excluded again
  • Score: 8

5:38pm Tue 21 Jan 14

louderfasterlonger says...

I know many people on this road.. not one has spoken to the councillor regarding this issue and would be horrified if it became one way. How would the residents of Dominica Ave get home from the village. It would likely lead to increased traffic along branch road, through the village and the top of Sandy Lane.. badly thought through Councillor Gee
I know many people on this road.. not one has spoken to the councillor regarding this issue and would be horrified if it became one way. How would the residents of Dominica Ave get home from the village. It would likely lead to increased traffic along branch road, through the village and the top of Sandy Lane.. badly thought through Councillor Gee louderfasterlonger
  • Score: 7

5:49pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ex-Darrener says...

Isn't Sandy Lane in Earcroft ward anyway?
Isn't Sandy Lane in Earcroft ward anyway? Ex-Darrener
  • Score: 3

6:07pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Nicky88 says...

As a resident on sandy lane I would not support a one way system however it is rediculous the amount of lorries that use the road and some hgv (dispite a sign at the top of the road saying no hgv) that pass through making the house feel like it is shaking. A 20mph speed limit would b preferable however would drivers adhere to this as some cars drive faster than 30mph currently on the road! Traffic on a match day is problematic in edition to when football is played on the field at the back. I am lucky enough not to have had my car vandalised or wing mirror knocked off but my next door neighbour isn't so lucky. I would suggest a strict lorry ban and trial of a reduced speed limit and residents only parking for match day (there are plenty of official car parks), it would be a starting point.
As a resident on sandy lane I would not support a one way system however it is rediculous the amount of lorries that use the road and some hgv (dispite a sign at the top of the road saying no hgv) that pass through making the house feel like it is shaking. A 20mph speed limit would b preferable however would drivers adhere to this as some cars drive faster than 30mph currently on the road! Traffic on a match day is problematic in edition to when football is played on the field at the back. I am lucky enough not to have had my car vandalised or wing mirror knocked off but my next door neighbour isn't so lucky. I would suggest a strict lorry ban and trial of a reduced speed limit and residents only parking for match day (there are plenty of official car parks), it would be a starting point. Nicky88
  • Score: 4

6:08pm Tue 21 Jan 14

louderfasterlonger says...

Ex-Darrener wrote:
Isn't Sandy Lane in Earcroft ward anyway?
The boundary changed.. ward boundary is now the motorway. Although the town boundary is still at the bus stop at the top of Cravens brow.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-Darrener[/bold] wrote: Isn't Sandy Lane in Earcroft ward anyway?[/p][/quote]The boundary changed.. ward boundary is now the motorway. Although the town boundary is still at the bus stop at the top of Cravens brow. louderfasterlonger
  • Score: -1

6:24pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ex-Darrener says...

louderfasterlonger wrote:
Ex-Darrener wrote:
Isn't Sandy Lane in Earcroft ward anyway?
The boundary changed.. ward boundary is now the motorway. Although the town boundary is still at the bus stop at the top of Cravens brow.
Thanks for that. I have clearly been 'ex' a long time.
[quote][p][bold]louderfasterlonger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-Darrener[/bold] wrote: Isn't Sandy Lane in Earcroft ward anyway?[/p][/quote]The boundary changed.. ward boundary is now the motorway. Although the town boundary is still at the bus stop at the top of Cravens brow.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I have clearly been 'ex' a long time. Ex-Darrener
  • Score: -1

6:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

happycyclist says...

One-way isn't practical for cyclists because there aren't any alternatives.
One-way isn't practical for cyclists because there aren't any alternatives. happycyclist
  • Score: 2

6:40pm Tue 21 Jan 14

A Darener says...

Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.
Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem. A Darener
  • Score: 3

7:24pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Nicky88 says...

A Darener wrote:
Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.
And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.[/p][/quote]And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use! Nicky88
  • Score: -1

7:28pm Tue 21 Jan 14

darwenTower says...

happycyclist wrote:
One-way isn't practical for cyclists because there aren't any alternatives.
Are you one of the few cyclists that stick to the rules of the road?

Good on you.
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: One-way isn't practical for cyclists because there aren't any alternatives.[/p][/quote]Are you one of the few cyclists that stick to the rules of the road? Good on you. darwenTower
  • Score: -2

8:54pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Nelson J says...

louderfasterlonger says...

I know many people on this road.. not one has spoken to the councillor regarding this issue and would be horrified if it became one way. How would the residents of Dominica Ave get home from the village. It would likely lead to increased traffic along branch road, through the village and the top of Sandy Lane.. badly thought through Councillor Gee

Many residents from Sandy Lane DID speak to Councillors about parking on Sandy Lane at a Neighbourhood Solutions meeting on the 8th January. I know this because I was there!
louderfasterlonger says... I know many people on this road.. not one has spoken to the councillor regarding this issue and would be horrified if it became one way. How would the residents of Dominica Ave get home from the village. It would likely lead to increased traffic along branch road, through the village and the top of Sandy Lane.. badly thought through Councillor Gee Many residents from Sandy Lane DID speak to Councillors about parking on Sandy Lane at a Neighbourhood Solutions meeting on the 8th January. I know this because I was there! Nelson J
  • Score: 2

9:38pm Tue 21 Jan 14

notac says...

Why not just ban vehicles over 7.5 tonnes?
Why not just ban vehicles over 7.5 tonnes? notac
  • Score: 3

12:02am Wed 22 Jan 14

louderfasterlonger says...

Nelson J wrote:
louderfasterlonger says...

I know many people on this road.. not one has spoken to the councillor regarding this issue and would be horrified if it became one way. How would the residents of Dominica Ave get home from the village. It would likely lead to increased traffic along branch road, through the village and the top of Sandy Lane.. badly thought through Councillor Gee

Many residents from Sandy Lane DID speak to Councillors about parking on Sandy Lane at a Neighbourhood Solutions meeting on the 8th January. I know this because I was there!
Parking was NEVER mentioned in the article ! So while it was not mentioned in the Ward Solutions meeting, no one consulted on HGV or one way systems.
[quote][p][bold]Nelson J[/bold] wrote: louderfasterlonger says... I know many people on this road.. not one has spoken to the councillor regarding this issue and would be horrified if it became one way. How would the residents of Dominica Ave get home from the village. It would likely lead to increased traffic along branch road, through the village and the top of Sandy Lane.. badly thought through Councillor Gee Many residents from Sandy Lane DID speak to Councillors about parking on Sandy Lane at a Neighbourhood Solutions meeting on the 8th January. I know this because I was there![/p][/quote]Parking was NEVER mentioned in the article ! So while it was not mentioned in the Ward Solutions meeting, no one consulted on HGV or one way systems. louderfasterlonger
  • Score: -1

12:02am Wed 22 Jan 14

louderfasterlonger says...

Nelson J wrote:
louderfasterlonger says...

I know many people on this road.. not one has spoken to the councillor regarding this issue and would be horrified if it became one way. How would the residents of Dominica Ave get home from the village. It would likely lead to increased traffic along branch road, through the village and the top of Sandy Lane.. badly thought through Councillor Gee

Many residents from Sandy Lane DID speak to Councillors about parking on Sandy Lane at a Neighbourhood Solutions meeting on the 8th January. I know this because I was there!
Parking was NEVER mentioned in the article ! So while it was not mentioned in the Ward Solutions meeting, no one consulted on HGV or one way systems.
[quote][p][bold]Nelson J[/bold] wrote: louderfasterlonger says... I know many people on this road.. not one has spoken to the councillor regarding this issue and would be horrified if it became one way. How would the residents of Dominica Ave get home from the village. It would likely lead to increased traffic along branch road, through the village and the top of Sandy Lane.. badly thought through Councillor Gee Many residents from Sandy Lane DID speak to Councillors about parking on Sandy Lane at a Neighbourhood Solutions meeting on the 8th January. I know this because I was there![/p][/quote]Parking was NEVER mentioned in the article ! So while it was not mentioned in the Ward Solutions meeting, no one consulted on HGV or one way systems. louderfasterlonger
  • Score: -1

7:52am Wed 22 Jan 14

A Darener says...

Nicky88 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.
And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use!
Residents do not have a right to park on the highway outside their house. It is up to them to find a suitable parking space. Other areas with double yellow lines have to!
[quote][p][bold]Nicky88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.[/p][/quote]And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use![/p][/quote]Residents do not have a right to park on the highway outside their house. It is up to them to find a suitable parking space. Other areas with double yellow lines have to! A Darener
  • Score: 3

10:01am Wed 22 Jan 14

GracesDad says...

Nicky88 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.
And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use!
I agree with double yellow lines down both sides. I live on Duchess Street and there is no parking outside my house so I sometimes have to park a few hundred yards away....big deal!
[quote][p][bold]Nicky88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.[/p][/quote]And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use![/p][/quote]I agree with double yellow lines down both sides. I live on Duchess Street and there is no parking outside my house so I sometimes have to park a few hundred yards away....big deal! GracesDad
  • Score: 1

10:50am Wed 22 Jan 14

Nicky88 says...

GracesDad wrote:
Nicky88 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.
And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use!
I agree with double yellow lines down both sides. I live on Duchess Street and there is no parking outside my house so I sometimes have to park a few hundred yards away....big deal!
I accept that it isn't my right to park outside my house but were would the nearest place to park be for us? Dominica avenue? The residents would be pleased! I would not feel safe as a lone woman when heading to work at 6.30 in the morning with a 5 year old and small baby in a car seat to walk a few hundred yards to get to my car and vise versa wen arriving home at 9pm. Parking is one think you take into account when buying a house! Double yellows wouldn't stop my house shaking when hgv drive past and the rediculous speed some cars go which is a danger. Anyway nothing will be done to change anything so things will continue as they are.
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicky88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.[/p][/quote]And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use![/p][/quote]I agree with double yellow lines down both sides. I live on Duchess Street and there is no parking outside my house so I sometimes have to park a few hundred yards away....big deal![/p][/quote]I accept that it isn't my right to park outside my house but were would the nearest place to park be for us? Dominica avenue? The residents would be pleased! I would not feel safe as a lone woman when heading to work at 6.30 in the morning with a 5 year old and small baby in a car seat to walk a few hundred yards to get to my car and vise versa wen arriving home at 9pm. Parking is one think you take into account when buying a house! Double yellows wouldn't stop my house shaking when hgv drive past and the rediculous speed some cars go which is a danger. Anyway nothing will be done to change anything so things will continue as they are. Nicky88
  • Score: 0

10:54am Wed 22 Jan 14

GracesDad says...

Nicky88 wrote:
GracesDad wrote:
Nicky88 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.
And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use!
I agree with double yellow lines down both sides. I live on Duchess Street and there is no parking outside my house so I sometimes have to park a few hundred yards away....big deal!
I accept that it isn't my right to park outside my house but were would the nearest place to park be for us? Dominica avenue? The residents would be pleased! I would not feel safe as a lone woman when heading to work at 6.30 in the morning with a 5 year old and small baby in a car seat to walk a few hundred yards to get to my car and vise versa wen arriving home at 9pm. Parking is one think you take into account when buying a house! Double yellows wouldn't stop my house shaking when hgv drive past and the rediculous speed some cars go which is a danger. Anyway nothing will be done to change anything so things will continue as they are.
Maybe a petition to build a car park on the spare land behind the houses would be a better idea?
[quote][p][bold]Nicky88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicky88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Double yellow lines from top to bottom, that will solve the problem.[/p][/quote]And you propose that residents park where? Yes some houses have parking around the back however not all and the un-adopted track at the back for access is unsuitable for cars and will only become totally un-usable with more use![/p][/quote]I agree with double yellow lines down both sides. I live on Duchess Street and there is no parking outside my house so I sometimes have to park a few hundred yards away....big deal![/p][/quote]I accept that it isn't my right to park outside my house but were would the nearest place to park be for us? Dominica avenue? The residents would be pleased! I would not feel safe as a lone woman when heading to work at 6.30 in the morning with a 5 year old and small baby in a car seat to walk a few hundred yards to get to my car and vise versa wen arriving home at 9pm. Parking is one think you take into account when buying a house! Double yellows wouldn't stop my house shaking when hgv drive past and the rediculous speed some cars go which is a danger. Anyway nothing will be done to change anything so things will continue as they are.[/p][/quote]Maybe a petition to build a car park on the spare land behind the houses would be a better idea? GracesDad
  • Score: 1

12:34pm Wed 22 Jan 14

BlackburnEyes says...

Nicky88 wrote:
As a resident on sandy lane I would not support a one way system however it is rediculous the amount of lorries that use the road and some hgv (dispite a sign at the top of the road saying no hgv) that pass through making the house feel like it is shaking. A 20mph speed limit would b preferable however would drivers adhere to this as some cars drive faster than 30mph currently on the road! Traffic on a match day is problematic in edition to when football is played on the field at the back. I am lucky enough not to have had my car vandalised or wing mirror knocked off but my next door neighbour isn't so lucky. I would suggest a strict lorry ban and trial of a reduced speed limit and residents only parking for match day (there are plenty of official car parks), it would be a starting point.
the way to control it is the way they do it down in the smoke we has a similar issue where we forced the council to enforce the HGV restriction by installing barrier posts that were wide enough to let LGV's....this was only after a resident installed some home made concrete ones!
[quote][p][bold]Nicky88[/bold] wrote: As a resident on sandy lane I would not support a one way system however it is rediculous the amount of lorries that use the road and some hgv (dispite a sign at the top of the road saying no hgv) that pass through making the house feel like it is shaking. A 20mph speed limit would b preferable however would drivers adhere to this as some cars drive faster than 30mph currently on the road! Traffic on a match day is problematic in edition to when football is played on the field at the back. I am lucky enough not to have had my car vandalised or wing mirror knocked off but my next door neighbour isn't so lucky. I would suggest a strict lorry ban and trial of a reduced speed limit and residents only parking for match day (there are plenty of official car parks), it would be a starting point.[/p][/quote]the way to control it is the way they do it down in the smoke we has a similar issue where we forced the council to enforce the HGV restriction by installing barrier posts that were wide enough to let LGV's....this was only after a resident installed some home made concrete ones! BlackburnEyes
  • Score: 0

6:28pm Thu 23 Jan 14

superyob says...

happycyclist wrote:
One-way isn't practical for cyclists because there aren't any alternatives.
How many cyclists obey one-way road signs?
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: One-way isn't practical for cyclists because there aren't any alternatives.[/p][/quote]How many cyclists obey one-way road signs? superyob
  • Score: 0

6:30pm Thu 23 Jan 14

superyob says...

happycyclist wrote:
One-way isn't practical for cyclists because there aren't any alternatives.
How many cyclists actually take notice of one-way signs?
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: One-way isn't practical for cyclists because there aren't any alternatives.[/p][/quote]How many cyclists actually take notice of one-way signs? superyob
  • Score: 0

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