Top Labour man for Darwen joins protest over Cameron

Andrew Gwynne (left) with Will Straw and the team on the streets of Darwen to attract attention to alleged Tory policy failures.

Andrew Gwynne (left) with Will Straw and the team on the streets of Darwen to attract attention to alleged Tory policy failures.

First published in News This Is Lancashire: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

DARWEN parliamentary hopeful Will Straw welcomed the Shadow Health Minister, Andrew Gwynne, to the town as part of a nationwide campaign by the Labour Party.

Mr Straw, prospective parliamentary candidate for Darwen and Rossendale in 2015, was also joined by more than 30 Labour councillors and activists for the #CostofCameron day. They also campaigned in Rawtenstall.

Mr Straw, son of Blackburn MP Jack, said: “Working people in the North West are now, on average, £1,750 a year worse off since David Cameron came to office. During this period, we have seen wages stagnating while the cost of living keeps increasing. People seemed angry and concerned by rising energy prices. It cannot be right that companies which report multi-billion pound profits are able to increase their prices so rapidly.

“A big thank-you to both Andrew Gwynne, MP for Denton and Reddish, and his wife Allison, a councillor in Denton, for joining us.”

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11:32am Wed 15 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

If you want to put young Straw into Darwen I suggest you look at the mess his Dad has made of Blackburn first! You have been warned.
If you want to put young Straw into Darwen I suggest you look at the mess his Dad has made of Blackburn first! You have been warned. Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 31

12:20pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Jack Herer says...

Labour are conveniently short on details on how to fix their own mess.

Come on then Will - how are you going to fix the massive unfairness with public sector pensions, which the poor saps in the private sector have to pay for, even though they can only dream of these gold plated pensions?

That's a major thing which is squeezing the already hard done to taxpayer, and its completely unfair, not to mention completely unsustainable.

The public sector pension injustice to the common man is only going to get worse not better too - but it's just another thing which Labour is happy to shaft decent, working people with, because Labour don't actually have a solution to their own mess.

All Labour can do is point out the obvious, not solve anything. Capping energy prices will not solve these much bigger issues. Who knows if capping energy prices won't make things worse not better in the long run?

Will Straw is clearly the new Kitty Usher.

Champagne and canapés all round at Union House, whilst the working man they claim to represent continues to suffer with their policies which look after their fat cat union buddies first and foremost.
Labour are conveniently short on details on how to fix their own mess. Come on then Will - how are you going to fix the massive unfairness with public sector pensions, which the poor saps in the private sector have to pay for, even though they can only dream of these gold plated pensions? That's a major thing which is squeezing the already hard done to taxpayer, and its completely unfair, not to mention completely unsustainable. The public sector pension injustice to the common man is only going to get worse not better too - but it's just another thing which Labour is happy to shaft decent, working people with, because Labour don't actually have a solution to their own mess. All Labour can do is point out the obvious, not solve anything. Capping energy prices will not solve these much bigger issues. Who knows if capping energy prices won't make things worse not better in the long run? Will Straw is clearly the new Kitty Usher. Champagne and canapés all round at Union House, whilst the working man they claim to represent continues to suffer with their policies which look after their fat cat union buddies first and foremost. Jack Herer
  • Score: 14

12:39pm Wed 15 Jan 14

hasslem hasslem says...

shall we have a cost of brown day? perhaps a cost of iraq war day? jack could speak on the latter subject
shall we have a cost of brown day? perhaps a cost of iraq war day? jack could speak on the latter subject hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 18

12:58pm Wed 15 Jan 14

darwenTower says...

My electricity has quadrupled in price since I bought my home, and fued prices have over trebled since I started driving.

I don't recall Labour doing anything about these rises when they were in power.
My electricity has quadrupled in price since I bought my home, and fued prices have over trebled since I started driving. I don't recall Labour doing anything about these rises when they were in power. darwenTower
  • Score: 16

12:59pm Wed 15 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

“Top Labour man for Darwen joins protest over Cameron”

Better to get your own party sorted out before complaining about your opposition. Totally disappointed by New Labour and the mess it’s made not only of Blackburn but Darwen as well. All we ever hear from New Labour are tedious complaints without offering sensible answers. We need a Labour Party back again rather than the same old Tony Blair Party that remains today. Blair & Brown. What a disastrous conservative combination they turned out to be.

The only thing keeping New Labour in power in Blackburn is because some people still think New Labour is a Labour Party.

But MP for Blackburn Jack Straw was is unique. Simply parachuted into a ‘Safe Seat’ allowing him to benefit himself for life due to our out of date industrial past. We don’t have any industrial wealth any more. That wealth is all abroad in India and China. Other than helping Tony Blair bring about an illegal war on Iraq just what improvements has Jack Straw ever made to Blackburn? Little wonder why his son wants to take advantage of Blackburn’s original Labour loyalty votes as well is there.

Just take a look to see what Blackburn has become then ask yourself why?
“Top Labour man for Darwen joins protest over Cameron” Better to get your own party sorted out before complaining about your opposition. Totally disappointed by New Labour and the mess it’s made not only of Blackburn but Darwen as well. All we ever hear from New Labour are tedious complaints without offering sensible answers. We need a Labour Party back again rather than the same old Tony Blair Party that remains today. Blair & Brown. What a disastrous conservative combination they turned out to be. The only thing keeping New Labour in power in Blackburn is because some people still think New Labour is a Labour Party. But MP for Blackburn Jack Straw was is unique. Simply parachuted into a ‘Safe Seat’ allowing him to benefit himself for life due to our out of date industrial past. We don’t have any industrial wealth any more. That wealth is all abroad in India and China. Other than helping Tony Blair bring about an illegal war on Iraq just what improvements has Jack Straw ever made to Blackburn? Little wonder why his son wants to take advantage of Blackburn’s original Labour loyalty votes as well is there. Just take a look to see what Blackburn has become then ask yourself why? blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 16

1:01pm Wed 15 Jan 14

darwenTower says...

^ 'fuel' prices
^ 'fuel' prices darwenTower
  • Score: 5

4:01pm Wed 15 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
shall we have a cost of brown day? perhaps a cost of iraq war day? jack could speak on the latter subject
Maybe a 'cost of Cameron day ' ? As you know the debt is now much higher (both absolutely and as a % of GDP) than under Brown.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: shall we have a cost of brown day? perhaps a cost of iraq war day? jack could speak on the latter subject[/p][/quote]Maybe a 'cost of Cameron day ' ? As you know the debt is now much higher (both absolutely and as a % of GDP) than under Brown. english rose 1
  • Score: -8

4:03pm Wed 15 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

Oh and. of course, Cameron fully supported the war in Iraq. So the cost would have been exactly the same.
Oh and. of course, Cameron fully supported the war in Iraq. So the cost would have been exactly the same. english rose 1
  • Score: -3

4:07pm Wed 15 Jan 14

CorkyMac says...

For Pete's sake his Dad gave Blackburn away, hold the Invasion of Darwen off for now at least by voting for some one who cares for Darwen and It's people, rather than just another 'Line my own pockets Guy'. Afraid It would spell suicide If Straw gets In.
For Pete's sake his Dad gave Blackburn away, hold the Invasion of Darwen off for now at least by voting for some one who cares for Darwen and It's people, rather than just another 'Line my own pockets Guy'. Afraid It would spell suicide If Straw gets In. CorkyMac
  • Score: 11

4:08pm Wed 15 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

blackburnwithdarwen wrote:
“Top Labour man for Darwen joins protest over Cameron”

Better to get your own party sorted out before complaining about your opposition. Totally disappointed by New Labour and the mess it’s made not only of Blackburn but Darwen as well. All we ever hear from New Labour are tedious complaints without offering sensible answers. We need a Labour Party back again rather than the same old Tony Blair Party that remains today. Blair & Brown. What a disastrous conservative combination they turned out to be.

The only thing keeping New Labour in power in Blackburn is because some people still think New Labour is a Labour Party.

But MP for Blackburn Jack Straw was is unique. Simply parachuted into a ‘Safe Seat’ allowing him to benefit himself for life due to our out of date industrial past. We don’t have any industrial wealth any more. That wealth is all abroad in India and China. Other than helping Tony Blair bring about an illegal war on Iraq just what improvements has Jack Straw ever made to Blackburn? Little wonder why his son wants to take advantage of Blackburn’s original Labour loyalty votes as well is there.

Just take a look to see what Blackburn has become then ask yourself why?
Whilst I totally disagree with this, - the really annoying and totally non factual bit is the word 'parachute'.
*
Labour candidates are selected on a one member one vote basis after a rigourous selection procedure.
*
Whether you like the Straws are not they were both democratically selected by Labour Party members.
[quote][p][bold]blackburnwithdarwen[/bold] wrote: “Top Labour man for Darwen joins protest over Cameron” Better to get your own party sorted out before complaining about your opposition. Totally disappointed by New Labour and the mess it’s made not only of Blackburn but Darwen as well. All we ever hear from New Labour are tedious complaints without offering sensible answers. We need a Labour Party back again rather than the same old Tony Blair Party that remains today. Blair & Brown. What a disastrous conservative combination they turned out to be. The only thing keeping New Labour in power in Blackburn is because some people still think New Labour is a Labour Party. But MP for Blackburn Jack Straw was is unique. Simply parachuted into a ‘Safe Seat’ allowing him to benefit himself for life due to our out of date industrial past. We don’t have any industrial wealth any more. That wealth is all abroad in India and China. Other than helping Tony Blair bring about an illegal war on Iraq just what improvements has Jack Straw ever made to Blackburn? Little wonder why his son wants to take advantage of Blackburn’s original Labour loyalty votes as well is there. Just take a look to see what Blackburn has become then ask yourself why?[/p][/quote]Whilst I totally disagree with this, - the really annoying and totally non factual bit is the word 'parachute'. * Labour candidates are selected on a one member one vote basis after a rigourous selection procedure. * Whether you like the Straws are not they were both democratically selected by Labour Party members. english rose 1
  • Score: -10

5:05pm Wed 15 Jan 14

hasslem hasslem says...

english rose 1 wrote:
Oh and. of course, Cameron fully supported the war in Iraq. So the cost would have been exactly the same.
because he was lied to by your slimeball pal. love it the way youtry to blame cameron for it - you should be a politician.

here's a memory jog for you - you mate jack and his pal tony started it. i know you tend to forget these things
[quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: Oh and. of course, Cameron fully supported the war in Iraq. So the cost would have been exactly the same.[/p][/quote]because he was lied to by your slimeball pal. love it the way youtry to blame cameron for it - you should be a politician. here's a memory jog for you - you mate jack and his pal tony started it. i know you tend to forget these things hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 6

5:07pm Wed 15 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

english rose 1 wrote:
Oh and. of course, Cameron fully supported the war in Iraq. So the cost would have been exactly the same.
Yes, Cameron was wrong to have supported a lie without knowing the truth I totally agree. But there were no weapons of mass destruction after all. Only by telling a lie allowed it to have happened. If that lie had not been told goodness knows how many innocent lives both there and there would not have been wasted and that waste of lives is still going on because of it. Please don’t blame anyone but Blair and Straw for the results of a lie!
[quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: Oh and. of course, Cameron fully supported the war in Iraq. So the cost would have been exactly the same.[/p][/quote]Yes, Cameron was wrong to have supported a lie without knowing the truth I totally agree. But there were no weapons of mass destruction after all. Only by telling a lie allowed it to have happened. If that lie had not been told goodness knows how many innocent lives both there and there would not have been wasted and that waste of lives is still going on because of it. Please don’t blame anyone but Blair and Straw for the results of a lie! blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 7

5:09pm Wed 15 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

english rose 1 wrote:
blackburnwithdarwen wrote:
“Top Labour man for Darwen joins protest over Cameron”

Better to get your own party sorted out before complaining about your opposition. Totally disappointed by New Labour and the mess it’s made not only of Blackburn but Darwen as well. All we ever hear from New Labour are tedious complaints without offering sensible answers. We need a Labour Party back again rather than the same old Tony Blair Party that remains today. Blair & Brown. What a disastrous conservative combination they turned out to be.

The only thing keeping New Labour in power in Blackburn is because some people still think New Labour is a Labour Party.

But MP for Blackburn Jack Straw was is unique. Simply parachuted into a ‘Safe Seat’ allowing him to benefit himself for life due to our out of date industrial past. We don’t have any industrial wealth any more. That wealth is all abroad in India and China. Other than helping Tony Blair bring about an illegal war on Iraq just what improvements has Jack Straw ever made to Blackburn? Little wonder why his son wants to take advantage of Blackburn’s original Labour loyalty votes as well is there.

Just take a look to see what Blackburn has become then ask yourself why?
Whilst I totally disagree with this, - the really annoying and totally non factual bit is the word 'parachute'.
*
Labour candidates are selected on a one member one vote basis after a rigourous selection procedure.
*
Whether you like the Straws are not they were both democratically selected by Labour Party members.
Yes, to have been parachuted into a Blackburn ‘Safe Seat’ is annoying I totally agree. But that‘s what happens when you have a ‘Safe Seat’ where anyone could have landed without any opposition. That’s what ‘Safe Seats’ are of which in Blackburn there are many!
[quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackburnwithdarwen[/bold] wrote: “Top Labour man for Darwen joins protest over Cameron” Better to get your own party sorted out before complaining about your opposition. Totally disappointed by New Labour and the mess it’s made not only of Blackburn but Darwen as well. All we ever hear from New Labour are tedious complaints without offering sensible answers. We need a Labour Party back again rather than the same old Tony Blair Party that remains today. Blair & Brown. What a disastrous conservative combination they turned out to be. The only thing keeping New Labour in power in Blackburn is because some people still think New Labour is a Labour Party. But MP for Blackburn Jack Straw was is unique. Simply parachuted into a ‘Safe Seat’ allowing him to benefit himself for life due to our out of date industrial past. We don’t have any industrial wealth any more. That wealth is all abroad in India and China. Other than helping Tony Blair bring about an illegal war on Iraq just what improvements has Jack Straw ever made to Blackburn? Little wonder why his son wants to take advantage of Blackburn’s original Labour loyalty votes as well is there. Just take a look to see what Blackburn has become then ask yourself why?[/p][/quote]Whilst I totally disagree with this, - the really annoying and totally non factual bit is the word 'parachute'. * Labour candidates are selected on a one member one vote basis after a rigourous selection procedure. * Whether you like the Straws are not they were both democratically selected by Labour Party members.[/p][/quote]Yes, to have been parachuted into a Blackburn ‘Safe Seat’ is annoying I totally agree. But that‘s what happens when you have a ‘Safe Seat’ where anyone could have landed without any opposition. That’s what ‘Safe Seats’ are of which in Blackburn there are many! blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 5

5:41pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Copperhead says...

NuLabour have helped ruin the UK.
Their immigration policy has resulted in millions of aliens coming here and changing our country for the worse and for ever.
We don't need immigrants on this scale and never did - even a former NuLab adviser admitted it was all to " rub the right's nose in diversity and change to nature of Britain forever ".
Nu Lab are all middle-class lefties - absolutely no trace of working-class DNA anywhere. They are all champagne socilaists who want to turn the UK into a multi-cultural Muppet Show that looked like a good idea in their university studnet's union debating society.
Immigrants take jobs that native Brits should be doing and live in houses needed by naive Brits. We don't want or need immigrants - but people like Jack Straw prefer them to us.
The Tories are no better - it was a Tory ( Heath ) who got us into the EU and Tories like Immigrants as they are cheap workers.
All parties encouraged and promoted globalisation - a policy which has decimated British industry and reduced British workers to no better than coolies slaving for minimum wage in low-grade unskilled jobs.
Straw and Son may be self-seeking cynical chancers, but none of the main parties are any better.
Best vote BNP or UKIP.
In fact, a vote for the Lord Satan himself would be a better bet than Labour, Lib-Dem or Tory.
NuLabour have helped ruin the UK. Their immigration policy has resulted in millions of aliens coming here and changing our country for the worse and for ever. We don't need immigrants on this scale and never did - even a former NuLab adviser admitted it was all to " rub the right's nose in diversity and change to nature of Britain forever ". Nu Lab are all middle-class lefties - absolutely no trace of working-class DNA anywhere. They are all champagne socilaists who want to turn the UK into a multi-cultural Muppet Show that looked like a good idea in their university studnet's union debating society. Immigrants take jobs that native Brits should be doing and live in houses needed by naive Brits. We don't want or need immigrants - but people like Jack Straw prefer them to us. The Tories are no better - it was a Tory ( Heath ) who got us into the EU and Tories like Immigrants as they are cheap workers. All parties encouraged and promoted globalisation - a policy which has decimated British industry and reduced British workers to no better than coolies slaving for minimum wage in low-grade unskilled jobs. Straw and Son may be self-seeking cynical chancers, but none of the main parties are any better. Best vote BNP or UKIP. In fact, a vote for the Lord Satan himself would be a better bet than Labour, Lib-Dem or Tory. Copperhead
  • Score: 7

6:43pm Wed 15 Jan 14

amazed says...

Yes, Copperhead, Edward Heath took us into the EU but it was not the sameorganisation as it is today - and was never intended to be. What a shambles. For a start ,the moving the Brussels Parliament to Strasbourg and back again costs millions and surely was never envisaged by Edward Heath or anyone else at the time. I believe the Strasbourg Hilton doubles its room prices when the EU gravy train grinds into town! . You may scoff (and I am sure you will) but Prime Minister Cameron is trying to regain some of the powers handed out to the UK - powers granted by Gordon Brown when he turned up (reluctantly) late to sign away yet more power. I am too old in the tooth to remember all the ramifications of 15 years of Mr Blair/Mr Brown cockups. One should read an excellent book on the two years of Gordon Brown's premiership - makes very interesting reading!
Yes, Copperhead, Edward Heath took us into the EU but it was not the sameorganisation as it is today - and was never intended to be. What a shambles. For a start ,the moving the Brussels Parliament to Strasbourg and back again costs millions and surely was never envisaged by Edward Heath or anyone else at the time. I believe the Strasbourg Hilton doubles its room prices when the EU gravy train grinds into town! . You may scoff (and I am sure you will) but Prime Minister Cameron is trying to regain some of the powers handed out to the UK - powers granted by Gordon Brown when he turned up (reluctantly) late to sign away yet more power. I am too old in the tooth to remember all the ramifications of 15 years of Mr Blair/Mr Brown cockups. One should read an excellent book on the two years of Gordon Brown's premiership - makes very interesting reading! amazed
  • Score: 8

6:46pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Bat E Karen says...

At least we see Jake Berry taking an interest in Darwen and Rossendale. I never clapped eyes on that Labour woman who was in before.

I never thought I'd like an MP but I think he's doing OK.
At least we see Jake Berry taking an interest in Darwen and Rossendale. I never clapped eyes on that Labour woman who was in before. I never thought I'd like an MP but I think he's doing OK. Bat E Karen
  • Score: 8

9:11pm Wed 15 Jan 14

happycyclist says...

'Top Labour man'? There's no such thing as a 'Top Labour man'.
'Top Labour man'? There's no such thing as a 'Top Labour man'. happycyclist
  • Score: 4

12:55am Thu 16 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
english rose 1 wrote:
Oh and. of course, Cameron fully supported the war in Iraq. So the cost would have been exactly the same.
because he was lied to by your slimeball pal. love it the way youtry to blame cameron for it - you should be a politician.

here's a memory jog for you - you mate jack and his pal tony started it. i know you tend to forget these things
But the majority of Lib-Dems voted against the war (as did your former Labour MP). So you are saying that Cameron was so naive that he bought the lies ? Why didn't he just listen to the Lib-Dems ? Why didn't Lib-Dems believe the 'lies' ? Why has not one of the independent enquiries said that Blair told lies ?
*
I have not blamed Cameron at all ... you keep misreading the comments on purpose. I said, quite factually, that Cameron supported (and voted) for the war in Iraq. I know it's a FACT you don't like, but it does happen to be true.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: Oh and. of course, Cameron fully supported the war in Iraq. So the cost would have been exactly the same.[/p][/quote]because he was lied to by your slimeball pal. love it the way youtry to blame cameron for it - you should be a politician. here's a memory jog for you - you mate jack and his pal tony started it. i know you tend to forget these things[/p][/quote]But the majority of Lib-Dems voted against the war (as did your former Labour MP). So you are saying that Cameron was so naive that he bought the lies ? Why didn't he just listen to the Lib-Dems ? Why didn't Lib-Dems believe the 'lies' ? Why has not one of the independent enquiries said that Blair told lies ? * I have not blamed Cameron at all ... you keep misreading the comments on purpose. I said, quite factually, that Cameron supported (and voted) for the war in Iraq. I know it's a FACT you don't like, but it does happen to be true. english rose 1
  • Score: -2

1:01am Thu 16 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

Bat E Karen wrote:
At least we see Jake Berry taking an interest in Darwen and Rossendale. I never clapped eyes on that Labour woman who was in before.

I never thought I'd like an MP but I think he's doing OK.
The 'interest' he has taken is in fully supporting the unfair cuts, - which have affected his constituency far more than the leafy shires.
*
It is your own fault if you never clapped eyes on the former MP as you could have gone to any of her numerous advice surgeries which, unlike the current MP, you did not have to make an appoinment to attend.
[quote][p][bold]Bat E Karen[/bold] wrote: At least we see Jake Berry taking an interest in Darwen and Rossendale. I never clapped eyes on that Labour woman who was in before. I never thought I'd like an MP but I think he's doing OK.[/p][/quote]The 'interest' he has taken is in fully supporting the unfair cuts, - which have affected his constituency far more than the leafy shires. * It is your own fault if you never clapped eyes on the former MP as you could have gone to any of her numerous advice surgeries which, unlike the current MP, you did not have to make an appoinment to attend. english rose 1
  • Score: -6

1:03am Thu 16 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

Indeed, if you wanted to meet her you could have knocked on her door as she lived in Darwen, unlike the current MP !
Indeed, if you wanted to meet her you could have knocked on her door as she lived in Darwen, unlike the current MP ! english rose 1
  • Score: -5

1:17am Thu 16 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

Copperhead wrote:
NuLabour have helped ruin the UK.
Their immigration policy has resulted in millions of aliens coming here and changing our country for the worse and for ever.
We don't need immigrants on this scale and never did - even a former NuLab adviser admitted it was all to " rub the right's nose in diversity and change to nature of Britain forever ".
Nu Lab are all middle-class lefties - absolutely no trace of working-class DNA anywhere. They are all champagne socilaists who want to turn the UK into a multi-cultural Muppet Show that looked like a good idea in their university studnet's union debating society.
Immigrants take jobs that native Brits should be doing and live in houses needed by naive Brits. We don't want or need immigrants - but people like Jack Straw prefer them to us.
The Tories are no better - it was a Tory ( Heath ) who got us into the EU and Tories like Immigrants as they are cheap workers.
All parties encouraged and promoted globalisation - a policy which has decimated British industry and reduced British workers to no better than coolies slaving for minimum wage in low-grade unskilled jobs.
Straw and Son may be self-seeking cynical chancers, but none of the main parties are any better.
Best vote BNP or UKIP.
In fact, a vote for the Lord Satan himself would be a better bet than Labour, Lib-Dem or Tory.
You are obviously obsessed by immigration and cannot stomach the FACT that Britain has always been a country of immigrants. Celts, Gauls, Norse, Germanic tribes, Vikings, Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Romans, Normans, Hugeonots, Jews, Irish, Scots, Poles, Chinese, Italians, Indians, Africans, Carribbean folk etc etc - need I go on and on ???
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Which immigrant stock are you from,Copperhead ? That name sounds like you are ginger - many of the Normans were gingerheads. As were quite a few Scots.
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Folk have ALWAYS come to Britain and left Britain. Currently 1.8m Brits live in the EU and if we left the EU many of those would have to return. Many are elderly. Do those 1.8m Brits living abroad not take Spanish / French / Italian jobs ?? It works both ways.
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Whether you like it or not our country has a history of invading other countries and telling them that they were BRITISH. Can you really be surprised if some wanted to be British ?? How many British folk stayed in the USA, Canada, Australia etc. after we invaded them ??
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Did the native folk living in those countries want British immigrants ??
*
It is naive in the extreme if you think you can stop world immigration - it's happened in the past, it's happening now and will happen in the future. And on the whole it's a good thing ! Which is the strongest country in the world ?? USA. A nation of immigrants.
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: NuLabour have helped ruin the UK. Their immigration policy has resulted in millions of aliens coming here and changing our country for the worse and for ever. We don't need immigrants on this scale and never did - even a former NuLab adviser admitted it was all to " rub the right's nose in diversity and change to nature of Britain forever ". Nu Lab are all middle-class lefties - absolutely no trace of working-class DNA anywhere. They are all champagne socilaists who want to turn the UK into a multi-cultural Muppet Show that looked like a good idea in their university studnet's union debating society. Immigrants take jobs that native Brits should be doing and live in houses needed by naive Brits. We don't want or need immigrants - but people like Jack Straw prefer them to us. The Tories are no better - it was a Tory ( Heath ) who got us into the EU and Tories like Immigrants as they are cheap workers. All parties encouraged and promoted globalisation - a policy which has decimated British industry and reduced British workers to no better than coolies slaving for minimum wage in low-grade unskilled jobs. Straw and Son may be self-seeking cynical chancers, but none of the main parties are any better. Best vote BNP or UKIP. In fact, a vote for the Lord Satan himself would be a better bet than Labour, Lib-Dem or Tory.[/p][/quote]You are obviously obsessed by immigration and cannot stomach the FACT that Britain has always been a country of immigrants. Celts, Gauls, Norse, Germanic tribes, Vikings, Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Romans, Normans, Hugeonots, Jews, Irish, Scots, Poles, Chinese, Italians, Indians, Africans, Carribbean folk etc etc - need I go on and on ??? * Which immigrant stock are you from,Copperhead ? That name sounds like you are ginger - many of the Normans were gingerheads. As were quite a few Scots. * Folk have ALWAYS come to Britain and left Britain. Currently 1.8m Brits live in the EU and if we left the EU many of those would have to return. Many are elderly. Do those 1.8m Brits living abroad not take Spanish / French / Italian jobs ?? It works both ways. * Whether you like it or not our country has a history of invading other countries and telling them that they were BRITISH. Can you really be surprised if some wanted to be British ?? How many British folk stayed in the USA, Canada, Australia etc. after we invaded them ?? * Did the native folk living in those countries want British immigrants ?? * It is naive in the extreme if you think you can stop world immigration - it's happened in the past, it's happening now and will happen in the future. And on the whole it's a good thing ! Which is the strongest country in the world ?? USA. A nation of immigrants. english rose 1
  • Score: -4

1:26am Thu 16 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

And before you say I'm a hypocrite, my neighbour is a lovely Polish lady who works and contributes taxes to this country (just like the vast majority of EU migrants). There is a great Irish guy living a few doors down and a woman whose grand-mother is from Flanders. There is also a very friendly Asian lady and an Italian guy. We all get on great and it's in a lovely part of Darwen.
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I couldn't care less who is my neighbour as long as they get on with me, I get on with them and they don't cause trouble or commit crimes.
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Would you send my neighbours 'back' ??
*
And before you say I'm a hypocrite, my neighbour is a lovely Polish lady who works and contributes taxes to this country (just like the vast majority of EU migrants). There is a great Irish guy living a few doors down and a woman whose grand-mother is from Flanders. There is also a very friendly Asian lady and an Italian guy. We all get on great and it's in a lovely part of Darwen. * I couldn't care less who is my neighbour as long as they get on with me, I get on with them and they don't cause trouble or commit crimes. * Would you send my neighbours 'back' ?? * english rose 1
  • Score: -2

12:56pm Thu 16 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

english rose 1 wrote:
Indeed, if you wanted to meet her you could have knocked on her door as she lived in Darwen, unlike the current MP !
As always, telling only half of the story. Janet Anderson used the Darwen residence for overnight stays while travelling to and from London. If you were to have knocked on her door she may not have been in. Janet Anderson now lives with her present partner, Labour MP for somewhere or other in London. She did however spend a considerable amount of expenses on travelling very much like Jack Straw has always done. Not living where your working and having a second home is very costly both in travel and second home expenses.
[quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: Indeed, if you wanted to meet her you could have knocked on her door as she lived in Darwen, unlike the current MP ![/p][/quote]As always, telling only half of the story. Janet Anderson used the Darwen residence for overnight stays while travelling to and from London. If you were to have knocked on her door she may not have been in. Janet Anderson now lives with her present partner, Labour MP for somewhere or other in London. She did however spend a considerable amount of expenses on travelling very much like Jack Straw has always done. Not living where your working and having a second home is very costly both in travel and second home expenses. blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 6

1:19am Fri 17 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

blackburnwithdarwen wrote:
english rose 1 wrote:
Indeed, if you wanted to meet her you could have knocked on her door as she lived in Darwen, unlike the current MP !
As always, telling only half of the story. Janet Anderson used the Darwen residence for overnight stays while travelling to and from London. If you were to have knocked on her door she may not have been in. Janet Anderson now lives with her present partner, Labour MP for somewhere or other in London. She did however spend a considerable amount of expenses on travelling very much like Jack Straw has always done. Not living where your working and having a second home is very costly both in travel and second home expenses.
So no doubt the current MP's expenses are a lot less ????

Check the figures out !

Especially his office expenses ....................
...
[quote][p][bold]blackburnwithdarwen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: Indeed, if you wanted to meet her you could have knocked on her door as she lived in Darwen, unlike the current MP ![/p][/quote]As always, telling only half of the story. Janet Anderson used the Darwen residence for overnight stays while travelling to and from London. If you were to have knocked on her door she may not have been in. Janet Anderson now lives with her present partner, Labour MP for somewhere or other in London. She did however spend a considerable amount of expenses on travelling very much like Jack Straw has always done. Not living where your working and having a second home is very costly both in travel and second home expenses.[/p][/quote]So no doubt the current MP's expenses are a lot less ???? Check the figures out ! Especially his office expenses .................... ... english rose 1
  • Score: -5

9:05am Fri 17 Jan 14

chargreaves says...

lol english rose 1 which labour councillor are you??? it's getting a bit embarassing
lol english rose 1 which labour councillor are you??? it's getting a bit embarassing chargreaves
  • Score: 5

12:09pm Fri 17 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

english rose 1 wrote:
blackburnwithdarwen wrote:
english rose 1 wrote:
Indeed, if you wanted to meet her you could have knocked on her door as she lived in Darwen, unlike the current MP !
As always, telling only half of the story. Janet Anderson used the Darwen residence for overnight stays while travelling to and from London. If you were to have knocked on her door she may not have been in. Janet Anderson now lives with her present partner, Labour MP for somewhere or other in London. She did however spend a considerable amount of expenses on travelling very much like Jack Straw has always done. Not living where your working and having a second home is very costly both in travel and second home expenses.
So no doubt the current MP's expenses are a lot less ????

Check the figures out !

Especially his office expenses ....................

...
Well, how about telling us english rose 1?

How much is our current MP spending on expenses? How much are the Straws spending on expenses? How much are our Councillors spending on expenses? We would like you to tell us please from your vast collection of non ending political facts!

But it makes no difference really does it. Don’t know why your bothering defending New Labour in such a biased way the way you do. The Blackburn Council never does anything wrong does it! A bit embarrassing for you really isn’t it after Tony Blair showed his face to make the original Labour Party his own. New Labour is not what the original Labour Party used to be. Those people who supported Tony Blair are still there showing their real face, Embarrassed, miserable and offering nothing more!
[quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackburnwithdarwen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: Indeed, if you wanted to meet her you could have knocked on her door as she lived in Darwen, unlike the current MP ![/p][/quote]As always, telling only half of the story. Janet Anderson used the Darwen residence for overnight stays while travelling to and from London. If you were to have knocked on her door she may not have been in. Janet Anderson now lives with her present partner, Labour MP for somewhere or other in London. She did however spend a considerable amount of expenses on travelling very much like Jack Straw has always done. Not living where your working and having a second home is very costly both in travel and second home expenses.[/p][/quote]So no doubt the current MP's expenses are a lot less ???? Check the figures out ! Especially his office expenses .................... ...[/p][/quote]Well, how about telling us english rose 1? How much is our current MP spending on expenses? How much are the Straws spending on expenses? How much are our Councillors spending on expenses? We would like you to tell us please from your vast collection of non ending political facts! But it makes no difference really does it. Don’t know why your bothering defending New Labour in such a biased way the way you do. The Blackburn Council never does anything wrong does it! A bit embarrassing for you really isn’t it after Tony Blair showed his face to make the original Labour Party his own. New Labour is not what the original Labour Party used to be. Those people who supported Tony Blair are still there showing their real face, Embarrassed, miserable and offering nothing more! blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 2

12:47pm Fri 17 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

Sorry, but must add . . .

Do not worry English rose 1, because The Straw Enterprise will carry on regardless. His son will eventually take his dads place. Jack Straw being able to have spent all of those years without actually living here shows clearly why the Safe Seat in Blackburn has made what Blackburn is today. A politically biased voting area due to it‘s industrial past gave Jack Straw that ability to have done anything. His son knows that, little wonder he wants the same!
Sorry, but must add . . . Do not worry English rose 1, because The Straw Enterprise will carry on regardless. His son will eventually take his dads place. Jack Straw being able to have spent all of those years without actually living here shows clearly why the Safe Seat in Blackburn has made what Blackburn is today. A politically biased voting area due to it‘s industrial past gave Jack Straw that ability to have done anything. His son knows that, little wonder he wants the same! blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 2

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