Muslims from across UK to hold faith walk around Bolton on Sunday

This Is Lancashire: The route of the faith walk The route of the faith walk

THOUSANDS of people are expected to join in a walk this weekend to celebrate and commemorate the birthday of the Muslim holy prophet Muhammad and the work of saint Sheik Sufi Mohammed Aslam.

The peaceful walk, which will take place on Sunday, will begin at about 1.45pm from the Makkah Mosque in Grecian Crescent, Great Lever, and will end at the Ghosia Mosque in Auburn Street, also in Great Lever.

It should last about one hour.

It is the 19th time that the celebration walk has taken place in Bolton and people from across the UK are expected to attend.

The walk will result in some disruption for road users with closures in Rishton Lane, Higher Swan Lane, Bridgeman Street, High Street and Settle Street in Great Lever on Sunday between the times of 1.30pm and 2.45pm.

A spokesman for the organisers of the walk said they would like to apologise for any disruption caused.


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5:00pm Fri 10 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

What does a faith walk mean and who is paying for the police attendance for this walk?
What does a faith walk mean and who is paying for the police attendance for this walk? thomas222
  • Score: 42

5:06pm Fri 10 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Are the Bolton News afraid of saying a MUSLIM faith walk ?
Are the Bolton News afraid of saying a MUSLIM faith walk ? thomas222
  • Score: 37

5:12pm Fri 10 Jan 14

paulrich says...

Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.
Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks. paulrich
  • Score: 58

5:45pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Julian Thorpe says...

thomas222 wrote:
Are the Bolton News afraid of saying a MUSLIM faith walk ?
Er... no.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: Are the Bolton News afraid of saying a MUSLIM faith walk ?[/p][/quote]Er... no. Julian Thorpe
  • Score: 7

7:10pm Fri 10 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Julian Thorpe wrote:
thomas222 wrote: Are the Bolton News afraid of saying a MUSLIM faith walk ?
Er... no.
Er looks like it unless you can tell me another story.. btw do you know who is paying the Police ?
[quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: Are the Bolton News afraid of saying a MUSLIM faith walk ?[/p][/quote]Er... no.[/p][/quote]Er looks like it unless you can tell me another story.. btw do you know who is paying the Police ? thomas222
  • Score: 4

7:20pm Fri 10 Jan 14

underwater says...

Just hope they are paying for any police presence on the day , but I doubt they will.
Just hope they are paying for any police presence on the day , but I doubt they will. underwater
  • Score: 19

8:30pm Fri 10 Jan 14

moosa says...

When the Edl have their so called march do they also pay or is their a request for them to pay?
Or is it because.....!!!
By the way this march will last a few hours !!
Whereas the Edl march last virtually all day & take lot more police resources which run into Hundreds of thousands of pounds!!
When the Edl have their so called march do they also pay or is their a request for them to pay? Or is it because.....!!! By the way this march will last a few hours !! Whereas the Edl march last virtually all day & take lot more police resources which run into Hundreds of thousands of pounds!! moosa
  • Score: 15

8:37pm Fri 10 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

moosa wrote:
When the Edl have their so called march do they also pay or is their a request for them to pay? Or is it because.....!!! By the way this march will last a few hours !! Whereas the Edl march last virtually all day & take lot more police resources which run into Hundreds of thousands of pounds!!
If we have any marches for anything like a carnival Queen or fete we have to pay for it and what has that got to do with edl who are doing a demo. Who is paying Moosa?
[quote][p][bold]moosa[/bold] wrote: When the Edl have their so called march do they also pay or is their a request for them to pay? Or is it because.....!!! By the way this march will last a few hours !! Whereas the Edl march last virtually all day & take lot more police resources which run into Hundreds of thousands of pounds!![/p][/quote]If we have any marches for anything like a carnival Queen or fete we have to pay for it and what has that got to do with edl who are doing a demo. Who is paying Moosa? thomas222
  • Score: 8

8:41pm Fri 10 Jan 14

moosa says...

What's the difference whether it's a demo or a fete?
Both takes up police resources!!
Can't be having one rule for one & one rule for another!!
Regarding the March you asking the wrong person .
How do I know who's paying for it!
Never been on this type of marches & don't intend to do so!!
What's the difference whether it's a demo or a fete? Both takes up police resources!! Can't be having one rule for one & one rule for another!! Regarding the March you asking the wrong person . How do I know who's paying for it! Never been on this type of marches & don't intend to do so!! moosa
  • Score: 22

9:05pm Fri 10 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

moosa wrote:
What's the difference whether it's a demo or a fete? Both takes up police resources!! Can't be having one rule for one & one rule for another!! Regarding the March you asking the wrong person . How do I know who's paying for it! Never been on this type of marches & don't intend to do so!!
sports events we pay... fete we pay..... football matcheswe pay...... carnival queen we pay.......does seems its only muslims get free of charge... Talking of edl when the we want Sharia law mob demo they dont pay either as it happens as a demo is different in law.
[quote][p][bold]moosa[/bold] wrote: What's the difference whether it's a demo or a fete? Both takes up police resources!! Can't be having one rule for one & one rule for another!! Regarding the March you asking the wrong person . How do I know who's paying for it! Never been on this type of marches & don't intend to do so!![/p][/quote]sports events we pay... fete we pay..... football matcheswe pay...... carnival queen we pay.......does seems its only muslims get free of charge... Talking of edl when the we want Sharia law mob demo they dont pay either as it happens as a demo is different in law. thomas222
  • Score: -7

9:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Donkey Stone says...

Can anyone feel a freedom of information request comimg on?
Can anyone feel a freedom of information request comimg on? Donkey Stone
  • Score: 15

9:10pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Donkey Stone says...

Donkey Stone wrote:
Can anyone feel a freedom of information request comimg on?
Or even coming on:)
[quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: Can anyone feel a freedom of information request comimg on?[/p][/quote]Or even coming on:) Donkey Stone
  • Score: -2

9:17pm Fri 10 Jan 14

moosa says...

It's not the fault of the Muslims that your churches are empty hence no Sunday processions!!
If their was one I'm sure it would be policed free of charge!!
Shouldn't you be taking this up with Police why they are not being charged?
It's not the fault of the Muslims that your churches are empty hence no Sunday processions!! If their was one I'm sure it would be policed free of charge!! Shouldn't you be taking this up with Police why they are not being charged? moosa
  • Score: 9

9:29pm Fri 10 Jan 14

moosa says...

A charitable event
A community event
A statutory event their is no charge
Unless their is a financial gain!!
A charitable event A community event A statutory event their is no charge Unless their is a financial gain!! moosa
  • Score: 0

9:37pm Fri 10 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

moosa wrote:
It's not the fault of the Muslims that your churches are empty hence no Sunday processions!! If their was one I'm sure it would be policed free of charge!! Shouldn't you be taking this up with Police why they are not being charged?
What has my question got to do with Churches?
[quote][p][bold]moosa[/bold] wrote: It's not the fault of the Muslims that your churches are empty hence no Sunday processions!! If their was one I'm sure it would be policed free of charge!! Shouldn't you be taking this up with Police why they are not being charged?[/p][/quote]What has my question got to do with Churches? thomas222
  • Score: -4

9:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

moosa wrote:
A charitable event A community event A statutory event their is no charge Unless their is a financial gain!!
There is it collects money.........
[quote][p][bold]moosa[/bold] wrote: A charitable event A community event A statutory event their is no charge Unless their is a financial gain!![/p][/quote]There is it collects money......... thomas222
  • Score: 2

12:30am Sat 11 Jan 14

Comment777 says...

moosa wrote:
It's not the fault of the Muslims that your churches are empty hence no Sunday processions!!
If their was one I'm sure it would be policed free of charge!!
Shouldn't you be taking this up with Police why they are not being charged?
My church is full of decent Christians all waiting for the next flood...can you swim or do you own a boat???
[quote][p][bold]moosa[/bold] wrote: It's not the fault of the Muslims that your churches are empty hence no Sunday processions!! If their was one I'm sure it would be policed free of charge!! Shouldn't you be taking this up with Police why they are not being charged?[/p][/quote]My church is full of decent Christians all waiting for the next flood...can you swim or do you own a boat??? Comment777
  • Score: 13

12:50am Sat 11 Jan 14

oftbewildered2 says...

paulrich wrote:
Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.
I am glad you said this - I was thinking of the good old days sixty years ago when Manchester ground to a halt - you could not move for the Whit Walkers - thousand and thousands of churchgoers. Banners, bands, white dresses, rose queens - it was magnificent. Protestants on Whit Sunday and Roman Catholics on Whit Monday - now there was a faith walk if ever there was one. Good community spirit. 'We' have had out opportunity and should not begrudge other faiths theirs.
[quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.[/p][/quote]I am glad you said this - I was thinking of the good old days sixty years ago when Manchester ground to a halt - you could not move for the Whit Walkers - thousand and thousands of churchgoers. Banners, bands, white dresses, rose queens - it was magnificent. Protestants on Whit Sunday and Roman Catholics on Whit Monday - now there was a faith walk if ever there was one. Good community spirit. 'We' have had out opportunity and should not begrudge other faiths theirs. oftbewildered2
  • Score: 38

5:26am Sat 11 Jan 14

moosa says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
paulrich wrote:
Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.
I am glad you said this - I was thinking of the good old days sixty years ago when Manchester ground to a halt - you could not move for the Whit Walkers - thousand and thousands of churchgoers. Banners, bands, white dresses, rose queens - it was magnificent. Protestants on Whit Sunday and Roman Catholics on Whit Monday - now there was a faith walk if ever there was one. Good community spirit. 'We' have had out opportunity and should not begrudge other faiths theirs.
My childhood memories...!! Sunday morning the band the music the carnival.The community spirit was amazing.
loved it!!
Lost my younger sister once in one of these walks!
Still not lived it down even now!!
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.[/p][/quote]I am glad you said this - I was thinking of the good old days sixty years ago when Manchester ground to a halt - you could not move for the Whit Walkers - thousand and thousands of churchgoers. Banners, bands, white dresses, rose queens - it was magnificent. Protestants on Whit Sunday and Roman Catholics on Whit Monday - now there was a faith walk if ever there was one. Good community spirit. 'We' have had out opportunity and should not begrudge other faiths theirs.[/p][/quote]My childhood memories...!! Sunday morning the band the music the carnival.The community spirit was amazing. loved it!! Lost my younger sister once in one of these walks! Still not lived it down even now!! moosa
  • Score: 19

9:05am Sat 11 Jan 14

waterbottle says...

According to the Islamic Faith you suppose to follow the main five pillars of Islam these marches are nonsense, no one in the Islamic state of Saudi Arabia will be holding any marches or celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammed s.a.w. Most of these people on this march won't even be praying their five daily prayers.
According to the Islamic Faith you suppose to follow the main five pillars of Islam these marches are nonsense, no one in the Islamic state of Saudi Arabia will be holding any marches or celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammed s.a.w. Most of these people on this march won't even be praying their five daily prayers. waterbottle
  • Score: 35

11:14am Sat 11 Jan 14

Whothis says...

I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.
I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago. Whothis
  • Score: 11

11:58am Sat 11 Jan 14

waterbottle says...

Whothis wrote:
I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.
Whothis
this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.
[quote][p][bold]Whothis[/bold] wrote: I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.[/p][/quote]Whothis this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam. waterbottle
  • Score: 14

1:43pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Whothis says...

waterbottle wrote:
Whothis wrote:
I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.
Whothis
this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.
Dear Waterbottle, please elaborate,, on your comment "I would put it down to uneducated in Islam" ? I didn't quite understand what point you were trying to make, if you disagree with any points I have made please feel free to comment, but do elaborate a bit further as to avoid misunderstanding, as your initial observation was "this was a very good write up" followed by your second comment which completely contradicts the first, please do add so I can clarify what it is you are trying to say, thank you.
[quote][p][bold]waterbottle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whothis[/bold] wrote: I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.[/p][/quote]Whothis this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.[/p][/quote]Dear Waterbottle, please elaborate,, on your comment "I would put it down to uneducated in Islam" ? I didn't quite understand what point you were trying to make, if you disagree with any points I have made please feel free to comment, but do elaborate a bit further as to avoid misunderstanding, as your initial observation was "this was a very good write up" followed by your second comment which completely contradicts the first, please do add so I can clarify what it is you are trying to say, thank you. Whothis
  • Score: 3

4:41pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Greasy Chip Butty says...

Surprised this is one of the most commented reports on BN. Thanks to likes of Thomas222/Reality50.

This is a recent phenomenon though in Bolton as I understand it, and our friends mentioned above are worried.
Surprised this is one of the most commented reports on BN. Thanks to likes of Thomas222/Reality50. This is a recent phenomenon though in Bolton as I understand it, and our friends mentioned above are worried. Greasy Chip Butty
  • Score: 4

6:25pm Sat 11 Jan 14

moosa says...

@Reality50

Show of faith.....??
Really?
Who you trying too fool with your veiled words!!
This is not about show of strength just 1 small portion of Muslims taking part!!
Anyway why would anyone feel intimidated by a peaceful faith walk?
Maybe you getting confused with the EDL march where bricks, glass bottles etc are thrown on innocent bystanders!
You won't be seeing any police officers getting injured through the actions of these Muslims!!

So my advice is take your meds on time & stop this fascination that the Muslims are out to get you!!
@Reality50 Show of faith.....?? Really? Who you trying too fool with your veiled words!! This is not about show of strength just 1 small portion of Muslims taking part!! Anyway why would anyone feel intimidated by a peaceful faith walk? Maybe you getting confused with the EDL march where bricks, glass bottles etc are thrown on innocent bystanders! You won't be seeing any police officers getting injured through the actions of these Muslims!! So my advice is take your meds on time & stop this fascination that the Muslims are out to get you!! moosa
  • Score: -9

6:28pm Sat 11 Jan 14

moosa says...

Whothis wrote:
waterbottle wrote:
Whothis wrote:
I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.
Whothis
this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.
Dear Waterbottle, please elaborate,, on your comment "I would put it down to uneducated in Islam" ? I didn't quite understand what point you were trying to make, if you disagree with any points I have made please feel free to comment, but do elaborate a bit further as to avoid misunderstanding, as your initial observation was "this was a very good write up" followed by your second comment which completely contradicts the first, please do add so I can clarify what it is you are trying to say, thank you.
What water bottle us trying to say is they the followers of the faith walk are un-educated in Islam!!
By the way I agreed to everything you wrote!!
[quote][p][bold]Whothis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waterbottle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whothis[/bold] wrote: I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.[/p][/quote]Whothis this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.[/p][/quote]Dear Waterbottle, please elaborate,, on your comment "I would put it down to uneducated in Islam" ? I didn't quite understand what point you were trying to make, if you disagree with any points I have made please feel free to comment, but do elaborate a bit further as to avoid misunderstanding, as your initial observation was "this was a very good write up" followed by your second comment which completely contradicts the first, please do add so I can clarify what it is you are trying to say, thank you.[/p][/quote]What water bottle us trying to say is they the followers of the faith walk are un-educated in Islam!! By the way I agreed to everything you wrote!! moosa
  • Score: 5

6:36pm Sat 11 Jan 14

soup153 says...

Give them a bin bag each help clean up while at it.
Give them a bin bag each help clean up while at it. soup153
  • Score: 27

11:43pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Jim_Wise says...

Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everyone?

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third-worlders and "assimilating" with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to "assimilate" with all those non-Whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country and ONLY into Black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane Black man to notice this and what kind of psycho Black man wouldn't object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, liberals and respectable conservatives will agree that I am a naziwhowantstocloneh
itler.

They say they are “anti-racist”.
What they are is anti-White.
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.
Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everyone? Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries. The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third-worlders and "assimilating" with them. Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to "assimilate" with all those non-Whites. What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country and ONLY into Black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And how long would it take any sane Black man to notice this and what kind of psycho Black man wouldn't object to this? But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, liberals and respectable conservatives will agree that I am a naziwhowantstocloneh itler. They say they are “anti-racist”. What they are is anti-White. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White. Jim_Wise
  • Score: 5

8:54am Sun 12 Jan 14

waterbottle says...

Whothis wrote:
waterbottle wrote:
Whothis wrote:
I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.
Whothis
this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.
Dear Waterbottle, please elaborate,, on your comment "I would put it down to uneducated in Islam" ? I didn't quite understand what point you were trying to make, if you disagree with any points I have made please feel free to comment, but do elaborate a bit further as to avoid misunderstanding, as your initial observation was "this was a very good write up" followed by your second comment which completely contradicts the first, please do add so I can clarify what it is you are trying to say, thank you.
i didn't mean you was uneducated i meant people celebrating are and make a big thing of the event.
[quote][p][bold]Whothis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waterbottle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whothis[/bold] wrote: I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.[/p][/quote]Whothis this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.[/p][/quote]Dear Waterbottle, please elaborate,, on your comment "I would put it down to uneducated in Islam" ? I didn't quite understand what point you were trying to make, if you disagree with any points I have made please feel free to comment, but do elaborate a bit further as to avoid misunderstanding, as your initial observation was "this was a very good write up" followed by your second comment which completely contradicts the first, please do add so I can clarify what it is you are trying to say, thank you.[/p][/quote]i didn't mean you was uneducated i meant people celebrating are and make a big thing of the event. waterbottle
  • Score: 10

10:33am Sun 12 Jan 14

Whothis says...

waterbottle wrote:
Whothis wrote:
waterbottle wrote:
Whothis wrote:
I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.
Whothis
this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.
Dear Waterbottle, please elaborate,, on your comment "I would put it down to uneducated in Islam" ? I didn't quite understand what point you were trying to make, if you disagree with any points I have made please feel free to comment, but do elaborate a bit further as to avoid misunderstanding, as your initial observation was "this was a very good write up" followed by your second comment which completely contradicts the first, please do add so I can clarify what it is you are trying to say, thank you.
i didn't mean you was uneducated i meant people celebrating are and make a big thing of the event.
No problem Waterbottle thank you for the clarification much appreciated.
[quote][p][bold]waterbottle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whothis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waterbottle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whothis[/bold] wrote: I read these comments and a lot of times it' is quite disappointing to see the animosity between people who really do not know each other, or who merely use these comments to denigrate each other's faith or beliefs in general, very sad. As for this 'faith walk' and the reason given for it being the 'prophets birthday' their is no evidence that this was ever practised by anyone at all until at least 400 years after the Prophets death, and was in fact started by a Shia cult in Egypt to celebrate on par with the Christians and Jews religious celebrations and festivals, it seems this festival has become very prevalent in the Pakistani and Indian communities who follow the 'Sufi Saints' of the sub-continent and have a following in mainly these areas, it is a remnant of the worshipping of saints, sadhus and guru type people of the sub-continent which was quite popular at the advent of the Sufi traditions into India, the majority of these Sufi people are descendants of the Hindus and Buddhists, and the worshipping of 'saints' both alive and dead is common amongst these communities, in the sub-continent many Graves of Sufi saints are worshipped quite often despite the practise being forbidden by the one monotheistic God of the Abrahamic faiths it continues as a form of idol/personality worship and continues today with the prophet of Islam being substituted as the fount head and recipient of this worship. But the mosques are decorated with Christmas fairy lights so a little nod to the British tradition of dressing up a Christmas tree it seems all people inter mingle to some degree even if they do it without realising it. Let them have their little walk, pity they haven't got the drums out and brass bands like the old Christian marches we used to see in Bolton many a year ago.[/p][/quote]Whothis this was a very good write up, I would put it down to uneducated in Islam.[/p][/quote]Dear Waterbottle, please elaborate,, on your comment "I would put it down to uneducated in Islam" ? I didn't quite understand what point you were trying to make, if you disagree with any points I have made please feel free to comment, but do elaborate a bit further as to avoid misunderstanding, as your initial observation was "this was a very good write up" followed by your second comment which completely contradicts the first, please do add so I can clarify what it is you are trying to say, thank you.[/p][/quote]i didn't mean you was uneducated i meant people celebrating are and make a big thing of the event.[/p][/quote]No problem Waterbottle thank you for the clarification much appreciated. Whothis
  • Score: 3

10:40am Sun 12 Jan 14

Whothis says...

Jim_Wise wrote:
Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everyone?

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third-worlders and "assimilating" with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to "assimilate" with all those non-Whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country and ONLY into Black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane Black man to notice this and what kind of psycho Black man wouldn't object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, liberals and respectable conservatives will agree that I am a naziwhowantstocloneh

itler.

They say they are “anti-racist”.
What they are is anti-White.
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.
Dear Jim
Please call a spade a spade and say what you mean, it's just too much hard work trying to decipher what it is you are trying to say, stop beating around the bush and say what you mean. It seems you are suffering from an extreme case of political correctness, or you are suffering from verbal diarrhoea, spit it out, in English.
[quote][p][bold]Jim_Wise[/bold] wrote: Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everyone? Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries. The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third-worlders and "assimilating" with them. Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to "assimilate" with all those non-Whites. What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country and ONLY into Black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And how long would it take any sane Black man to notice this and what kind of psycho Black man wouldn't object to this? But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, liberals and respectable conservatives will agree that I am a naziwhowantstocloneh itler. They say they are “anti-racist”. What they are is anti-White. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.[/p][/quote]Dear Jim Please call a spade a spade and say what you mean, it's just too much hard work trying to decipher what it is you are trying to say, stop beating around the bush and say what you mean. It seems you are suffering from an extreme case of political correctness, or you are suffering from verbal diarrhoea, spit it out, in English. Whothis
  • Score: 3

3:13pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Both waterbottle and the other misguided wahabi/salafi followers are the ones who are ignorant in their knowledge of islam and the true nature of sufism..which is the true face of islam unlike the facist luke wahabi followers, which inspires suicide bombers, the villification of women... The list goes on and on!
Both waterbottle and the other misguided wahabi/salafi followers are the ones who are ignorant in their knowledge of islam and the true nature of sufism..which is the true face of islam unlike the facist luke wahabi followers, which inspires suicide bombers, the villification of women... The list goes on and on! Wulf32
  • Score: 2

3:19pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Wahabis have truely distorted islam and what it stands for which is peace and tolerance..sufis do not worship saints they venerate them for their piety and the example they set for the muslim faith..the prophet was loved by god why do wahabis deny this and insist on degrading the remebrance of him and the saints that followed him. This is because they have been either been bought by saudi arabian blood money or brainwashed by the ill educated arabian clerics who believe their king is above and beyond the prophet..i pity you wahabis and your suicide bomber brothers
Wahabis have truely distorted islam and what it stands for which is peace and tolerance..sufis do not worship saints they venerate them for their piety and the example they set for the muslim faith..the prophet was loved by god why do wahabis deny this and insist on degrading the remebrance of him and the saints that followed him. This is because they have been either been bought by saudi arabian blood money or brainwashed by the ill educated arabian clerics who believe their king is above and beyond the prophet..i pity you wahabis and your suicide bomber brothers Wulf32
  • Score: -5

3:24pm Sun 12 Jan 14

waterbottle says...

Wulf32 wrote:
Wahabis have truely distorted islam and what it stands for which is peace and tolerance..sufis do not worship saints they venerate them for their piety and the example they set for the muslim faith..the prophet was loved by god why do wahabis deny this and insist on degrading the remebrance of him and the saints that followed him. This is because they have been either been bought by saudi arabian blood money or brainwashed by the ill educated arabian clerics who believe their king is above and beyond the prophet..i pity you wahabis and your suicide bomber brothers
Go wash your mouth out you uneducated Sufi loving idiot
[quote][p][bold]Wulf32[/bold] wrote: Wahabis have truely distorted islam and what it stands for which is peace and tolerance..sufis do not worship saints they venerate them for their piety and the example they set for the muslim faith..the prophet was loved by god why do wahabis deny this and insist on degrading the remebrance of him and the saints that followed him. This is because they have been either been bought by saudi arabian blood money or brainwashed by the ill educated arabian clerics who believe their king is above and beyond the prophet..i pity you wahabis and your suicide bomber brothers[/p][/quote]Go wash your mouth out you uneducated Sufi loving idiot waterbottle
  • Score: 9

4:02pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Educated riposte from the taliban i see.. Where were you educated? School of taliban in khandhar..those sufis who your disrespecting have reverted millions back to islam..what have wahabis and salafists ever given the world? Oh yeah war.. Death and don't forget the stoning of women..need i go on with the list of attrocities associated to your facist view of islam
Educated riposte from the taliban i see.. Where were you educated? School of taliban in khandhar..those sufis who your disrespecting have reverted millions back to islam..what have wahabis and salafists ever given the world? Oh yeah war.. Death and don't forget the stoning of women..need i go on with the list of attrocities associated to your facist view of islam Wulf32
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Oh Jibrail, how old are you?” He replied: “I do not know. But I know this much that there was a star in the fourth heaven that used to shine after every 70,000 years and I have seen that star 72,000 times.” On hearing this Rasul Allah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said: “By the honour of Allah the almighty, I am that star!” 70000 x 72000 = 5,040,000,000 (five billion, forty million) years. That star that shone for billions of years before creation – is it not shining now? Imam Qastalani (r.a) writes that when Allah the almighty created Hazrat Adam (a.s), Allah put in his heart: “Oh Allah, why is one of my names Abu Muhammad?” Allah told him to raise his head. When he looked up, he saw a Noor and he asked: “Oh Allah what is this Noor?” Allah the almighty replied: “This is the Noor of a Prophet from among your descendents. His name in the heavens is Ahmad (s.a.w) and on the earth Muhammad (s.a.w). If it was not for him I would not have created you, nor would have I created the heavens or the earth.
Oh Jibrail, how old are you?” He replied: “I do not know. But I know this much that there was a star in the fourth heaven that used to shine after every 70,000 years and I have seen that star 72,000 times.” On hearing this Rasul Allah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said: “By the honour of Allah the almighty, I am that star!” 70000 x 72000 = 5,040,000,000 (five billion, forty million) years. That star that shone for billions of years before creation – is it not shining now? Imam Qastalani (r.a) writes that when Allah the almighty created Hazrat Adam (a.s), Allah put in his heart: “Oh Allah, why is one of my names Abu Muhammad?” Allah told him to raise his head. When he looked up, he saw a Noor and he asked: “Oh Allah what is this Noor?” Allah the almighty replied: “This is the Noor of a Prophet from among your descendents. His name in the heavens is Ahmad (s.a.w) and on the earth Muhammad (s.a.w). If it was not for him I would not have created you, nor would have I created the heavens or the earth. Wulf32
  • Score: -7

5:35pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

A quick question to Wulf32

Why the procession chanting Ya Ali
Thought that's what the Shias chant!!
Maybe your sufi saint are confused!!
Brelvism born from Shiaism!!
A quick question to Wulf32 Why the procession chanting Ya Ali Thought that's what the Shias chant!! Maybe your sufi saint are confused!! Brelvism born from Shiaism!! moosa
  • Score: 7

5:35pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

And that's why we celebrate the birth of the prophet s.a.w. you wahabi hoard of ignoramuses! Stop blindly following the saudi arabian doctrine of hatred and bile and educate yourself in the true path of islam...the one of love, peace and harmony to people of all fairhs and creed!
And that's why we celebrate the birth of the prophet s.a.w. you wahabi hoard of ignoramuses! Stop blindly following the saudi arabian doctrine of hatred and bile and educate yourself in the true path of islam...the one of love, peace and harmony to people of all fairhs and creed! Wulf32
  • Score: -7

5:41pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

Wulf32 I presume you're a Shia who's a confused individual following Brelvi school of thought!!
Wulf32 I presume you're a Shia who's a confused individual following Brelvi school of thought!! moosa
  • Score: 6

5:42pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

Wulf32 are you going to answer my question why were the Brelvis chanting Ya Ali?
Wulf32 are you going to answer my question why were the Brelvis chanting Ya Ali? moosa
  • Score: 7

5:43pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Moosa why would it be wrong to chant the sacred name of Ali..he and his family gave their entire lives for islam and died for its betterment.. I rather be chanting his beloved name rather than your king fahad's.. P.S. shia doctrine has far greater merit than wahabism..you have distorted islam into a faith of hatred and sectrianism which our prophet preached against...you are the antithesis of the true faith of islam
Moosa why would it be wrong to chant the sacred name of Ali..he and his family gave their entire lives for islam and died for its betterment.. I rather be chanting his beloved name rather than your king fahad's.. P.S. shia doctrine has far greater merit than wahabism..you have distorted islam into a faith of hatred and sectrianism which our prophet preached against...you are the antithesis of the true faith of islam Wulf32
  • Score: -11

5:47pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

I am a bharuchi muslim who follows the barelvi school..who do you follow? King fahad and his american sympathising cronies? Who funded your mosques in bolton? Saudi's who have grown rich from alliances with the profit hungry, amoral americans..in essence your mosque has been built by the funds from the ill gotten gains of the americans
I am a bharuchi muslim who follows the barelvi school..who do you follow? King fahad and his american sympathising cronies? Who funded your mosques in bolton? Saudi's who have grown rich from alliances with the profit hungry, amoral americans..in essence your mosque has been built by the funds from the ill gotten gains of the americans Wulf32
  • Score: -10

5:47pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

Let's get 1 thing straight ... The school of thought I follow means I pray in a mosque peacefully without causing any harm to anyone
Unlike the inconvenience your people caused to the habitants of Bolton!!
Secondly I don't go out in a show of faith mutilating my head & body to show my faith!!
Let's get 1 thing straight ... The school of thought I follow means I pray in a mosque peacefully without causing any harm to anyone Unlike the inconvenience your people caused to the habitants of Bolton!! Secondly I don't go out in a show of faith mutilating my head & body to show my faith!! moosa
  • Score: 7

5:50pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Whose mutilating what? As usual you go off misconceptions manipulated by the wahabi's...as said stop following blindly and actually educate yourself..ignorance begets ignorance!
Whose mutilating what? As usual you go off misconceptions manipulated by the wahabi's...as said stop following blindly and actually educate yourself..ignorance begets ignorance! Wulf32
  • Score: -6

5:51pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

By the way what's a Bharuchi Muslim is that another sect?
By the way what's a Bharuchi Muslim is that another sect? moosa
  • Score: 4

5:53pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

I forgot to mention I was told if you put out fairy lights in your houses you get Baraakah!!
What a load of tripe!!
I forgot to mention I was told if you put out fairy lights in your houses you get Baraakah!! What a load of tripe!! moosa
  • Score: 3

5:57pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Thats my heritage..obviously you cannot compute basic information..i believe upto this point you have not responded to any of my retorts to your queries..from this i make a fair assumption you are as thick as two planks of wood!!! I do a disservice to the planks of wood!
Thats my heritage..obviously you cannot compute basic information..i believe upto this point you have not responded to any of my retorts to your queries..from this i make a fair assumption you are as thick as two planks of wood!!! I do a disservice to the planks of wood! Wulf32
  • Score: -7

6:00pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

If resorting your level makes me thick as two planks then that must make two of us... So be it!!
If resorting your level makes me thick as two planks then that must make two of us... So be it!! moosa
  • Score: 1

6:05pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

That makes no sense what so ever..you should note your making yourself look like a true imbecile..was I the one who was mocking light fixtures..i think not..when your able to converse at a respectable standard then i may consider further discourse with your not so good self
That makes no sense what so ever..you should note your making yourself look like a true imbecile..was I the one who was mocking light fixtures..i think not..when your able to converse at a respectable standard then i may consider further discourse with your not so good self Wulf32
  • Score: -7

6:06pm Sun 12 Jan 14

waterbottle says...

These same people the so called Brelvie's carry out dancing at the grave yard is that your next claim to proper Islam Wulf32 if you don't believe me just go on youtube and type GRAVE DANCERS un educated idiot and by the way Bharuchi Muslims where do they go for Haaj is it Pir Dargah in India
These same people the so called Brelvie's carry out dancing at the grave yard is that your next claim to proper Islam Wulf32 if you don't believe me just go on youtube and type GRAVE DANCERS un educated idiot and by the way Bharuchi Muslims where do they go for Haaj is it Pir Dargah in India waterbottle
  • Score: 5

6:08pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

Please do explain .... The significance of fairy lights ?
Please do explain .... The significance of fairy lights ? moosa
  • Score: 3

6:10pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

According to the hadith that
Hazrath Enes narrated, Our Prophet
(pbuh) when coming round Kudus
(Jarusalem), He stopped at Hazrath
Moses’ grave and saw him praying.
(see Muslim, Fadâil, 42- hadith no
164). In that hadith it is stated that
Hazrath Moses is alive in his grave
after thousands years. The intention
from grave is barzah realm
(intermediate realm). As a matter
of fact, Our Prophet (pbuh) when
going up to heaven, He had seen
Hazrath Abraham, Hazrath Moses
and Hazrath Isa (Jesus) praying and
He had served them as an imam.
(See Muslim, Iman, 75; hadith No:
277; Nevevî, the explanation of the
concerned hadith).
According to the hadith that Hazrath Enes narrated, Our Prophet (pbuh) when coming round Kudus (Jarusalem), He stopped at Hazrath Moses’ grave and saw him praying. (see Muslim, Fadâil, 42- hadith no 164). In that hadith it is stated that Hazrath Moses is alive in his grave after thousands years. The intention from grave is barzah realm (intermediate realm). As a matter of fact, Our Prophet (pbuh) when going up to heaven, He had seen Hazrath Abraham, Hazrath Moses and Hazrath Isa (Jesus) praying and He had served them as an imam. (See Muslim, Iman, 75; hadith No: 277; Nevevî, the explanation of the concerned hadith). Wulf32
  • Score: -6

6:11pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

By the way what's next in 2015?
Father Christmas.
Presents!
You've already have light in your homes & mosques!!
By the way what's next in 2015? Father Christmas. Presents! You've already have light in your homes & mosques!! moosa
  • Score: 4

6:14pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Re. The veneration of graves..stop babbling on about lights..people can decorate their homes in whatever manner their wish..is it against islam to have lights..i do not recall muslims having to observe sabbath..i.e. not having the use of lights on the day of sabbath (based on your previous comments you need the explanation)...all the help and all that!
Re. The veneration of graves..stop babbling on about lights..people can decorate their homes in whatever manner their wish..is it against islam to have lights..i do not recall muslims having to observe sabbath..i.e. not having the use of lights on the day of sabbath (based on your previous comments you need the explanation)...all the help and all that! Wulf32
  • Score: -4

6:15pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

Wulf stop avoiding the question!!
You've still not answered waterbottles question
Why do your people dance on graves?
Wulf stop avoiding the question!! You've still not answered waterbottles question Why do your people dance on graves? moosa
  • Score: 5

6:16pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

So you use candles then..seems about correct..and you by chance from the georgian era..prior to electricity
So you use candles then..seems about correct..and you by chance from the georgian era..prior to electricity Wulf32
  • Score: -1

6:18pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Dance on graves? You lost the plot..we pray for intercession at thesegraves just like our prophet before us..so you don't follow the prophet's example then?
Dance on graves? You lost the plot..we pray for intercession at thesegraves just like our prophet before us..so you don't follow the prophet's example then? Wulf32
  • Score: -4

6:18pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

No we use fairy lights please do keep up boy it's 2014!!
No we use fairy lights please do keep up boy it's 2014!! moosa
  • Score: 3

6:20pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Any other points you need clarification on my misguided, deluded wahabi?
Any other points you need clarification on my misguided, deluded wahabi? Wulf32
  • Score: -6

6:21pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Do you actually have anything intelligent to say or are you just going to spout the saudi line of putrid filth?
Do you actually have anything intelligent to say or are you just going to spout the saudi line of putrid filth? Wulf32
  • Score: -3

6:22pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

Our Prophet (pbuh) states the following hadith about performing an action that belongs to another religion:

“He is not one of us who resembles people other than us. Do not resemble the Jews or the Christians.” (Tirmidhi)

Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

“The Prophet (pbuh) said: He who copies any people is one of them.” (Dawud, Book 32, Hadith, 4020)

Please think before putting fairy lights in your homes!!
Our Prophet (pbuh) states the following hadith about performing an action that belongs to another religion: “He is not one of us who resembles people other than us. Do not resemble the Jews or the Christians.” (Tirmidhi) Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: “The Prophet (pbuh) said: He who copies any people is one of them.” (Dawud, Book 32, Hadith, 4020) Please think before putting fairy lights in your homes!! moosa
  • Score: -1

6:23pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Like speaking to my 5 year old..sorry i get far more sense and intelligent conversation from her..you are boring me...i think moosa dullard suits you down a tee!
Like speaking to my 5 year old..sorry i get far more sense and intelligent conversation from her..you are boring me...i think moosa dullard suits you down a tee! Wulf32
  • Score: 0

6:24pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

Wulf are you advocating that dancing on graves is allowed in Islam!!
You're a bigger ignorant Brelvi bidati fool than I thought!!
my God guide you on the true path!!
Wulf are you advocating that dancing on graves is allowed in Islam!! You're a bigger ignorant Brelvi bidati fool than I thought!! my God guide you on the true path!! moosa
  • Score: -1

6:28pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Have'nt got a foggiest to what your on about (wahabi's misinterpreting the hadith again) Ii repeat and please try to comprehend it is'nt against islam to have any form of lights in ypur home..narrate the passage in the koran or the hadith where it states you can't have fairy lights or any other lights in your home or mosque
Have'nt got a foggiest to what your on about (wahabi's misinterpreting the hadith again) Ii repeat and please try to comprehend it is'nt against islam to have any form of lights in ypur home..narrate the passage in the koran or the hadith where it states you can't have fairy lights or any other lights in your home or mosque Wulf32
  • Score: -3

6:30pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Who dances on graves? Where you getting your info from? Your foolish imams who have been paid by the saudis to spout their anti prophet rubbish? I think so.. You a suicide bomber in disguise? Do your female relatives chained to their beds?
Who dances on graves? Where you getting your info from? Your foolish imams who have been paid by the saudis to spout their anti prophet rubbish? I think so.. You a suicide bomber in disguise? Do your female relatives chained to their beds? Wulf32
  • Score: -3

6:37pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

May god give you a brain to think for yourself amd not follow the bile spouted by the saudi's - ameen...seriously learn to think for yourself..don't let others do it for you!
May god give you a brain to think for yourself amd not follow the bile spouted by the saudi's - ameen...seriously learn to think for yourself..don't let others do it for you! Wulf32
  • Score: -2

6:40pm Sun 12 Jan 14

moosa says...

You mean brains like your peers!!
Long pockets
Kissing the feet
Bowing to them other than Allah
Women kissing their feet
The lists goes on and on!!
Take your own advice & think for yourself don't let others
You mean brains like your peers!! Long pockets Kissing the feet Bowing to them other than Allah Women kissing their feet The lists goes on and on!! Take your own advice & think for yourself don't let others moosa
  • Score: 0

6:40pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

You've done a poor poor job in convincing anyone that wahabism has got any benefits to it..it is a hate filled doctrine..that advocates bombing innocent people, subjugating the female race, demeaning the importance of the prophet...and so much more..hope your all proud to call yourself wahabis..i certainly would'nt... Shame on you!
You've done a poor poor job in convincing anyone that wahabism has got any benefits to it..it is a hate filled doctrine..that advocates bombing innocent people, subjugating the female race, demeaning the importance of the prophet...and so much more..hope your all proud to call yourself wahabis..i certainly would'nt... Shame on you! Wulf32
  • Score: -4

6:46pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Have you actually seen that happen? I see sucide bombers under the name of wahabis killing innocent people..i see the taliban under the name of wahabism treating women worse than dogs..i see the saudi's disrepecting the memory of our beloved prophet! Wahabis are the source of hatred, war, death.. All that is not islam is wahabism!
Have you actually seen that happen? I see sucide bombers under the name of wahabis killing innocent people..i see the taliban under the name of wahabism treating women worse than dogs..i see the saudi's disrepecting the memory of our beloved prophet! Wahabis are the source of hatred, war, death.. All that is not islam is wahabism! Wulf32
  • Score: -1

6:50pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

The truth will prevail and the abomination that is the wahabi sect will be proven to be just that
The truth will prevail and the abomination that is the wahabi sect will be proven to be just that Wulf32
  • Score: -3

6:52pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Go crying to your saudi paymasters..they maybe able to produce another osama bin laden for you! You have destroyed islam..may god forgive your trespasses!
Go crying to your saudi paymasters..they maybe able to produce another osama bin laden for you! You have destroyed islam..may god forgive your trespasses! Wulf32
  • Score: -2

6:56pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Where are you my dear moosa..bora bora wiv the rest of your terrorist brothers?
Where are you my dear moosa..bora bora wiv the rest of your terrorist brothers? Wulf32
  • Score: -4

7:07pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Wulf32 says...

Right im bored with your lack of intelligent discourse.. Not wasting anyomre of my Sunday on an ill educated numpty such as yourself..i bid you a not so fond farewell..
Right im bored with your lack of intelligent discourse.. Not wasting anyomre of my Sunday on an ill educated numpty such as yourself..i bid you a not so fond farewell.. Wulf32
  • Score: -2

7:21pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Light fairy says...

And off they go, tails firmly between their legs to the Saudi pay masters sorry sheikhs for some spiritual guidance well said zulf sorry wolf .……
And off they go, tails firmly between their legs to the Saudi pay masters sorry sheikhs for some spiritual guidance well said zulf sorry wolf .…… Light fairy
  • Score: -1

8:15pm Sun 12 Jan 14

waterbottle says...

moosa wrote:
By the way what's next in 2015?
Father Christmas.
Presents!
You've already have light in your homes & mosques!!
Next year they will choose one with tallest hat and longest red facial hair to be Santa
[quote][p][bold]moosa[/bold] wrote: By the way what's next in 2015? Father Christmas. Presents! You've already have light in your homes & mosques!![/p][/quote]Next year they will choose one with tallest hat and longest red facial hair to be Santa waterbottle
  • Score: 4

8:49pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Light fairy says...

Saudi government not far behind with the construction of the tallest building in Riyadh but I suppose that's allowed - why dont you try and formulate your arguments little better than the hairy fairy (get the irony!!)) arguments you put forward so far.....
Saudi government not far behind with the construction of the tallest building in Riyadh but I suppose that's allowed - why dont you try and formulate your arguments little better than the hairy fairy (get the irony!!)) arguments you put forward so far..... Light fairy
  • Score: 2

10:05pm Sun 12 Jan 14

George X says...

Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !!
Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !! George X
  • Score: 2

10:15pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Light fairy says...

George X wrote:
Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !!
And where would we be kicked out from?? England?? Europe?? the planet??
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !![/p][/quote]And where would we be kicked out from?? England?? Europe?? the planet?? Light fairy
  • Score: 2

11:53pm Sun 12 Jan 14

SleepingThunder says...

There is nowt like Religion to bring a forum/comunity together?
There is nowt like Religion to bring a forum/comunity together? SleepingThunder
  • Score: 4

8:12am Mon 13 Jan 14

George X says...

Light fairy wrote:
George X wrote:
Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !!
And where would we be kicked out from?? England?? Europe?? the planet??
England.
[quote][p][bold]Light fairy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !![/p][/quote]And where would we be kicked out from?? England?? Europe?? the planet??[/p][/quote]England. George X
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Replytohatersandscum says...

George X wrote:
Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !!
the sooner you lot (jobless uneducated scum ) leave bolton the better
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !![/p][/quote]the sooner you lot (jobless uneducated scum ) leave bolton the better Replytohatersandscum
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Mon 13 Jan 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

There will be soldiers on the streets in the next few years, I can see it. The people of Great Britain have had enough of being second class in their own country
There will be soldiers on the streets in the next few years, I can see it. The people of Great Britain have had enough of being second class in their own country FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Andyroost says...

moosa wrote:
oftbewildered2 wrote:
paulrich wrote:
Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.
I am glad you said this - I was thinking of the good old days sixty years ago when Manchester ground to a halt - you could not move for the Whit Walkers - thousand and thousands of churchgoers. Banners, bands, white dresses, rose queens - it was magnificent. Protestants on Whit Sunday and Roman Catholics on Whit Monday - now there was a faith walk if ever there was one. Good community spirit. 'We' have had out opportunity and should not begrudge other faiths theirs.
My childhood memories...!! Sunday morning the band the music the carnival.The community spirit was amazing.
loved it!!
Lost my younger sister once in one of these walks!
Still not lived it down even now!!
She will be about forty if you find her this year
[quote][p][bold]moosa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.[/p][/quote]I am glad you said this - I was thinking of the good old days sixty years ago when Manchester ground to a halt - you could not move for the Whit Walkers - thousand and thousands of churchgoers. Banners, bands, white dresses, rose queens - it was magnificent. Protestants on Whit Sunday and Roman Catholics on Whit Monday - now there was a faith walk if ever there was one. Good community spirit. 'We' have had out opportunity and should not begrudge other faiths theirs.[/p][/quote]My childhood memories...!! Sunday morning the band the music the carnival.The community spirit was amazing. loved it!! Lost my younger sister once in one of these walks! Still not lived it down even now!![/p][/quote]She will be about forty if you find her this year Andyroost
  • Score: 2

8:38pm Mon 13 Jan 14

moosa says...

Andyroost wrote:
moosa wrote:
oftbewildered2 wrote:
paulrich wrote:
Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.
I am glad you said this - I was thinking of the good old days sixty years ago when Manchester ground to a halt - you could not move for the Whit Walkers - thousand and thousands of churchgoers. Banners, bands, white dresses, rose queens - it was magnificent. Protestants on Whit Sunday and Roman Catholics on Whit Monday - now there was a faith walk if ever there was one. Good community spirit. 'We' have had out opportunity and should not begrudge other faiths theirs.
My childhood memories...!! Sunday morning the band the music the carnival.The community spirit was amazing.
loved it!!
Lost my younger sister once in one of these walks!
Still not lived it down even now!!
She will be about forty if you find her this year
We did manage to find her via the local Bobby!!
Haha
[quote][p][bold]Andyroost[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moosa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.[/p][/quote]I am glad you said this - I was thinking of the good old days sixty years ago when Manchester ground to a halt - you could not move for the Whit Walkers - thousand and thousands of churchgoers. Banners, bands, white dresses, rose queens - it was magnificent. Protestants on Whit Sunday and Roman Catholics on Whit Monday - now there was a faith walk if ever there was one. Good community spirit. 'We' have had out opportunity and should not begrudge other faiths theirs.[/p][/quote]My childhood memories...!! Sunday morning the band the music the carnival.The community spirit was amazing. loved it!! Lost my younger sister once in one of these walks! Still not lived it down even now!![/p][/quote]She will be about forty if you find her this year[/p][/quote]We did manage to find her via the local Bobby!! Haha moosa
  • Score: 2

8:40pm Mon 13 Jan 14

moosa says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
There will be soldiers on the streets in the next few years, I can see it. The people of Great Britain have had enough of being second class in their own country
Yeah to protect the people from the likes of you!!
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: There will be soldiers on the streets in the next few years, I can see it. The people of Great Britain have had enough of being second class in their own country[/p][/quote]Yeah to protect the people from the likes of you!! moosa
  • Score: 1

11:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Light fairy says...

Replytohatersandscum wrote:
George X wrote:
Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !!
the sooner you lot (jobless uneducated scum ) leave bolton the better
Jobless and uneducated wow George using your full range of dictionary!!!
Actually I have a degree work 6 days a week, employ 10 staff most of whom are white British my company turnovers over 200k a month not bad for someone who you describe as jobless n uneducated as you say!!!
Now just imagine GEORGE if was educated, id run for prime ministers office and gosh what would you do then......
[quote][p][bold]Replytohatersandscum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !![/p][/quote]the sooner you lot (jobless uneducated scum ) leave bolton the better[/p][/quote]Jobless and uneducated wow George using your full range of dictionary!!! Actually I have a degree work 6 days a week, employ 10 staff most of whom are white British my company turnovers over 200k a month not bad for someone who you describe as jobless n uneducated as you say!!! Now just imagine GEORGE if was educated, id run for prime ministers office and gosh what would you do then...... Light fairy
  • Score: -1

7:19am Tue 14 Jan 14

George X says...

Light fairy wrote:
Replytohatersandscum wrote:
George X wrote:
Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !!
the sooner you lot (jobless uneducated scum ) leave bolton the better
Jobless and uneducated wow George using your full range of dictionary!!!
Actually I have a degree work 6 days a week, employ 10 staff most of whom are white British my company turnovers over 200k a month not bad for someone who you describe as jobless n uneducated as you say!!!
Now just imagine GEORGE if was educated, id run for prime ministers office and gosh what would you do then......
I think if you re read it you'll find that it was someone saying those things about me, it pretty much makes the rest of your rant moot does'nt it. ??
[quote][p][bold]Light fairy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Replytohatersandscum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: Ha ha classic, A bunch of religious hypocrites argueing about who's interpretation of the koran is the correct one !! the sooner you lot get kicked out the better !![/p][/quote]the sooner you lot (jobless uneducated scum ) leave bolton the better[/p][/quote]Jobless and uneducated wow George using your full range of dictionary!!! Actually I have a degree work 6 days a week, employ 10 staff most of whom are white British my company turnovers over 200k a month not bad for someone who you describe as jobless n uneducated as you say!!! Now just imagine GEORGE if was educated, id run for prime ministers office and gosh what would you do then......[/p][/quote]I think if you re read it you'll find that it was someone saying those things about me, it pretty much makes the rest of your rant moot does'nt it. ?? George X
  • Score: 0

10:03am Tue 14 Jan 14

PGtips67 says...

paulrich wrote:
Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.
I think you'll find they were Whit or Pentecost Sunday walks
[quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: Nowt wrong with this. Just wish we could re-instate the Roman Catholic Trinity Sunday walks.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find they were Whit or Pentecost Sunday walks PGtips67
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Tue 14 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

With all that's been said can we now have a "discussion" as to which Christian religion is the better one of all of them - is it Roman Catholocism, CofE, Church of the Holy Grape, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox etc etc etc

Or what about the various sects of the Jewish faith - which s the better one?

Or lets talk about the hot contemporaneous topic of why Church numbers are declining and what can be to reverse the trend?
With all that's been said can we now have a "discussion" as to which Christian religion is the better one of all of them - is it Roman Catholocism, CofE, Church of the Holy Grape, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox etc etc etc Or what about the various sects of the Jewish faith - which s the better one? Or lets talk about the hot contemporaneous topic of why Church numbers are declining and what can be to reverse the trend? BWFC71
  • Score: 0

6:18pm Tue 14 Jan 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
With all that's been said can we now have a "discussion" as to which Christian religion is the better one of all of them - is it Roman Catholocism, CofE, Church of the Holy Grape, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox etc etc etc

Or what about the various sects of the Jewish faith - which s the better one?

Or lets talk about the hot contemporaneous topic of why Church numbers are declining and what can be to reverse the trend?
Ahhh I see BWFC71 is still knocking about. Remember me? Or are you going to go crying to the editors again? :D
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: With all that's been said can we now have a "discussion" as to which Christian religion is the better one of all of them - is it Roman Catholocism, CofE, Church of the Holy Grape, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox etc etc etc Or what about the various sects of the Jewish faith - which s the better one? Or lets talk about the hot contemporaneous topic of why Church numbers are declining and what can be to reverse the trend?[/p][/quote]Ahhh I see BWFC71 is still knocking about. Remember me? Or are you going to go crying to the editors again? :D FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 0

6:50pm Tue 14 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
With all that's been said can we now have a "discussion" as to which Christian religion is the better one of all of them - is it Roman Catholocism, CofE, Church of the Holy Grape, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox etc etc etc

Or what about the various sects of the Jewish faith - which s the better one?

Or lets talk about the hot contemporaneous topic of why Church numbers are declining and what can be to reverse the trend?
Ahhh I see BWFC71 is still knocking about. Remember me? Or are you going to go crying to the editors again? :D
If you stick to the rules, which are online and you ticked the box saying you understand the rules, then you won't get banned!!!

Remember this is not freedom of speech on here, or anywhere else in UK, as there are rules and laws in place and have been for centuries.
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: With all that's been said can we now have a "discussion" as to which Christian religion is the better one of all of them - is it Roman Catholocism, CofE, Church of the Holy Grape, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox etc etc etc Or what about the various sects of the Jewish faith - which s the better one? Or lets talk about the hot contemporaneous topic of why Church numbers are declining and what can be to reverse the trend?[/p][/quote]Ahhh I see BWFC71 is still knocking about. Remember me? Or are you going to go crying to the editors again? :D[/p][/quote]If you stick to the rules, which are online and you ticked the box saying you understand the rules, then you won't get banned!!! Remember this is not freedom of speech on here, or anywhere else in UK, as there are rules and laws in place and have been for centuries. BWFC71
  • Score: 0

8:01pm Tue 14 Jan 14

JustBecause says...

thomas222 wrote:
What does a faith walk mean and who is paying for the police attendance for this walk?
Same people who pay for police at football matches, or the police that have to be in bolton town centre on Friday and Saturday.

The same people who are paying for the police to police EDL marches etc,

So grow up your retards.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: What does a faith walk mean and who is paying for the police attendance for this walk?[/p][/quote]Same people who pay for police at football matches, or the police that have to be in bolton town centre on Friday and Saturday. The same people who are paying for the police to police EDL marches etc, So grow up your retards. JustBecause
  • Score: 3

11:42am Wed 15 Jan 14

userjustreading says...

It really does disgust me to be reading these comments. By all means all people have their own opinions however to go on degrading others is absolutely useless especially to those muslims who full well know that our religion teaches us peace and to be fighting amongst brothers and sisters is ridiculous. Learn from your mistakes. Also would like to mention that the taxpayer pays for policing these events just as it pays for construction of roads or the treatment of a terminally ill nhs patient. Furthermore I just want to say that it is the governments decision to allow muslims and all other religions to exercise their beliefs in this country. They enjoy generous payments of tax from us all which is most likely why they do not object to allowing the migration of foreign people which includes the new law for romanians aswell.
It really does disgust me to be reading these comments. By all means all people have their own opinions however to go on degrading others is absolutely useless especially to those muslims who full well know that our religion teaches us peace and to be fighting amongst brothers and sisters is ridiculous. Learn from your mistakes. Also would like to mention that the taxpayer pays for policing these events just as it pays for construction of roads or the treatment of a terminally ill nhs patient. Furthermore I just want to say that it is the governments decision to allow muslims and all other religions to exercise their beliefs in this country. They enjoy generous payments of tax from us all which is most likely why they do not object to allowing the migration of foreign people which includes the new law for romanians aswell. userjustreading
  • Score: 2

12:46pm Wed 15 Jan 14

jellbellkell says...

After reading some of these comments I'm finding it bizzare!!

Where is the empathy,humanity,lov
e??? :(

I'm sure if we all go back from when we was born & taught the above we'd surely live in peace????

And find it more bizzare that followers live by a book that was written 1000's of years ago changed multiple times and are at war with each other :((

My dream is all mankind one day realise we're all human beings and live as1 without all the blooming animosity :((

Such a sad sad world we live in today !!
After reading some of these comments I'm finding it bizzare!! Where is the empathy,humanity,lov e??? :( I'm sure if we all go back from when we was born & taught the above we'd surely live in peace???? And find it more bizzare that followers live by a book that was written 1000's of years ago changed multiple times and are at war with each other :(( My dream is all mankind one day realise we're all human beings and live as1 without all the blooming animosity :(( Such a sad sad world we live in today !! jellbellkell
  • Score: 2

3:57pm Thu 16 Jan 14

myfanwy7 says...

People do not need religions to teach them that living peacefully is the best hope for human society. Many truths are self evident. The notion that people were slumped in ignorance longing for scriptures to show them how to live is total nonsense. Eschew the supernatural and think for yourself would be my advice.
People do not need religions to teach them that living peacefully is the best hope for human society. Many truths are self evident. The notion that people were slumped in ignorance longing for scriptures to show them how to live is total nonsense. Eschew the supernatural and think for yourself would be my advice. myfanwy7
  • Score: 0

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