Two shotguns stolen from van in Clitheroe

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TWO shotguns and 10 cartridges have been stolen from a pickup van.

The lawfully-held weapons were stolen, along with items of clothing, from a black Nissan Navara parked in Whitewell Road, Clitheroe.

Police said they did not believe the guns, a Berreta Silver Pigeon 686 over/under shotgun, serial number V205715, and a 12 Bore Miroku over/under shotgun, serial number 59401MV, were the target of the thieves as two other vehicles were broken into around the same time.

Officers said tools were stolen from a white Volkswagen Caddy van and a Mitsubishi Shogun parked near to the Navara.

A dedicated team has been set up to investigate the thefts, which happened between 6pm and 9.30pm on December 30.

Det Insp Eric Halford appealed directly to the thieves to return the property.

He said: "It is imperative that we retrieve these firearms as soon as possible.

“We can't afford to have such items on the streets and in the hands of criminals.

"I would appeal to anyone who has any information which will help us to retrieve the shotguns to come forward.

“I would ask them to search their conscience and think about the criminal purposes these guns could end up being used for.

"Due to the nature of the theft we have dedicated staff investigating this crime to make sure we can remove the shotguns from circulation as soon as possible.

“We are exploiting every line of enquiry, no matter how small it may seem.

"I do not believe the person or people responsible bargained on stealing two shotguns and I would like to appeal to them directly: if you are still in possession of these firearms do the right thing and hand them in before any serious harm is caused."

Anyone with any information should contact police on 101 or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

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6:04pm Thu 2 Jan 14

golazzo says...

Mmmm. Now the owner of the shotguns, firstly he was the legal owner but more importantly were these guns secured within a cabinet within the vehicle, if not then he could be in a whole lot of trouble.

If the vehicle was left unattended for any period of time then the stock and the barrel should have been separated rendering the guns useless.

Loss of licence could be on the cards for this owner
Mmmm. Now the owner of the shotguns, firstly he was the legal owner but more importantly were these guns secured within a cabinet within the vehicle, if not then he could be in a whole lot of trouble. If the vehicle was left unattended for any period of time then the stock and the barrel should have been separated rendering the guns useless. Loss of licence could be on the cards for this owner golazzo

6:52pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Is Eckersley playing? says...

golazzo wrote:
Mmmm. Now the owner of the shotguns, firstly he was the legal owner but more importantly were these guns secured within a cabinet within the vehicle, if not then he could be in a whole lot of trouble.

If the vehicle was left unattended for any period of time then the stock and the barrel should have been separated rendering the guns useless.

Loss of licence could be on the cards for this owner
And rightly so. How neglectful and irresponsible can you get!
[quote][p][bold]golazzo[/bold] wrote: Mmmm. Now the owner of the shotguns, firstly he was the legal owner but more importantly were these guns secured within a cabinet within the vehicle, if not then he could be in a whole lot of trouble. If the vehicle was left unattended for any period of time then the stock and the barrel should have been separated rendering the guns useless. Loss of licence could be on the cards for this owner[/p][/quote]And rightly so. How neglectful and irresponsible can you get! Is Eckersley playing?

8:35am Fri 3 Jan 14

rudis_dad says...

golazzo wrote:
Mmmm. Now the owner of the shotguns, firstly he was the legal owner but more importantly were these guns secured within a cabinet within the vehicle, if not then he could be in a whole lot of trouble.

If the vehicle was left unattended for any period of time then the stock and the barrel should have been separated rendering the guns useless.

Loss of licence could be on the cards for this owner
Not withstanding the rights and wrongs of what the owner has done with his guns, it is NOT a legal requirement to have them in a cabinet inside the vehicle.

Home office guidelines only stipulate that they should be locked away out of site if being left in a vehicle, and that part of the weapon, such as the fore-end, should be removed. Only if it is a regular and unavoidable occurence that they should be left in the vehicle does the HO recommend that a secure cabinet be fitted in the vehicle.

Personally, I agree that the owner has been irresponsible in leaving them in an insecure vehicle (and Navaras are notoriously insecure), but we do not know what condition they were in - i.e. capable of being discharged or not.
[quote][p][bold]golazzo[/bold] wrote: Mmmm. Now the owner of the shotguns, firstly he was the legal owner but more importantly were these guns secured within a cabinet within the vehicle, if not then he could be in a whole lot of trouble. If the vehicle was left unattended for any period of time then the stock and the barrel should have been separated rendering the guns useless. Loss of licence could be on the cards for this owner[/p][/quote]Not withstanding the rights and wrongs of what the owner has done with his guns, it is NOT a legal requirement to have them in a cabinet inside the vehicle. Home office guidelines only stipulate that they should be locked away out of site if being left in a vehicle, and that part of the weapon, such as the fore-end, should be removed. Only if it is a regular and unavoidable occurence that they should be left in the vehicle does the HO recommend that a secure cabinet be fitted in the vehicle. Personally, I agree that the owner has been irresponsible in leaving them in an insecure vehicle (and Navaras are notoriously insecure), but we do not know what condition they were in - i.e. capable of being discharged or not. rudis_dad

11:24am Fri 3 Jan 14

ghost of sceptic says...

These guns should never have been allowed to be left unattended in a pick up.
The guns cannot be deemed to be secure in a vehicle i hope the owner has his license revoked. God forbid if these guns get in the hands of criminals.
These guns should never have been allowed to be left unattended in a pick up. The guns cannot be deemed to be secure in a vehicle i hope the owner has his license revoked. God forbid if these guns get in the hands of criminals. ghost of sceptic

3:49pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Mr Banford says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
These guns should never have been allowed to be left unattended in a pick up.
The guns cannot be deemed to be secure in a vehicle i hope the owner has his license revoked. God forbid if these guns get in the hands of criminals.
They are in the hands of criminals. They were stolen from the van.
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: These guns should never have been allowed to be left unattended in a pick up. The guns cannot be deemed to be secure in a vehicle i hope the owner has his license revoked. God forbid if these guns get in the hands of criminals.[/p][/quote]They are in the hands of criminals. They were stolen from the van. Mr Banford

5:47pm Fri 3 Jan 14

golazzo says...

rudis_dad wrote:
golazzo wrote:
Mmmm. Now the owner of the shotguns, firstly he was the legal owner but more importantly were these guns secured within a cabinet within the vehicle, if not then he could be in a whole lot of trouble.

If the vehicle was left unattended for any period of time then the stock and the barrel should have been separated rendering the guns useless.

Loss of licence could be on the cards for this owner
Not withstanding the rights and wrongs of what the owner has done with his guns, it is NOT a legal requirement to have them in a cabinet inside the vehicle.

Home office guidelines only stipulate that they should be locked away out of site if being left in a vehicle, and that part of the weapon, such as the fore-end, should be removed. Only if it is a regular and unavoidable occurence that they should be left in the vehicle does the HO recommend that a secure cabinet be fitted in the vehicle.

Personally, I agree that the owner has been irresponsible in leaving them in an insecure vehicle (and Navaras are notoriously insecure), but we do not know what condition they were in - i.e. capable of being discharged or not.
Your correct it's not a legal requirement but leaving them unattended is simply not acceptable.

I own a shotgun and would never dream of leaving it unattended in a vehicle unless it was split down and one half was in my possession
[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]golazzo[/bold] wrote: Mmmm. Now the owner of the shotguns, firstly he was the legal owner but more importantly were these guns secured within a cabinet within the vehicle, if not then he could be in a whole lot of trouble. If the vehicle was left unattended for any period of time then the stock and the barrel should have been separated rendering the guns useless. Loss of licence could be on the cards for this owner[/p][/quote]Not withstanding the rights and wrongs of what the owner has done with his guns, it is NOT a legal requirement to have them in a cabinet inside the vehicle. Home office guidelines only stipulate that they should be locked away out of site if being left in a vehicle, and that part of the weapon, such as the fore-end, should be removed. Only if it is a regular and unavoidable occurence that they should be left in the vehicle does the HO recommend that a secure cabinet be fitted in the vehicle. Personally, I agree that the owner has been irresponsible in leaving them in an insecure vehicle (and Navaras are notoriously insecure), but we do not know what condition they were in - i.e. capable of being discharged or not.[/p][/quote]Your correct it's not a legal requirement but leaving them unattended is simply not acceptable. I own a shotgun and would never dream of leaving it unattended in a vehicle unless it was split down and one half was in my possession golazzo

8:54pm Fri 3 Jan 14

ghost of sceptic says...

Mr Banford wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
These guns should never have been allowed to be left unattended in a pick up.
The guns cannot be deemed to be secure in a vehicle i hope the owner has his license revoked. God forbid if these guns get in the hands of criminals.
They are in the hands of criminals. They were stolen from the van.
Meant someone who would be prepared to use them as a criminal tool and not a toy for the bloodsport brigade.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Banford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: These guns should never have been allowed to be left unattended in a pick up. The guns cannot be deemed to be secure in a vehicle i hope the owner has his license revoked. God forbid if these guns get in the hands of criminals.[/p][/quote]They are in the hands of criminals. They were stolen from the van.[/p][/quote]Meant someone who would be prepared to use them as a criminal tool and not a toy for the bloodsport brigade. ghost of sceptic

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